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The Imperial Shogunate of Pschycotic Pschycos hereby wishes to declare its withdrawl from the Greater Prussian Empire. With this withdrawl, it is also necessary for us to revoke all rights of production and use of the following ship classes:

Island
Arkhangel
Zimmermann
Pices
Aegis Tri-marine
Lionfish
Whale

Tagged

King John Antonette sends a personal, handwritten message saying,
Why are you leaving the empire?
-John

Felt it was time to move on. See what else is out there in the world.

OOC: PP, sorry to see you go. Wish you would have spoken with me first about it though.

IC: To: Shogun of Psychotic Psychos
From: His Imperial Highness, Napoleon IV

Shogun,

You have siezed the property of the Imperial Crown. I will excuse your treasonous defection and let you on your way for there is no need for useless slaughter...but on the condition that you return all of the Imperial Property you siezed. We will accept the withdrawal of the ships YOU donated and not reproduce the designs, but the ships built after your design which are great in number are rightfully ours.

I will have you know this illeagal seizure could very well be considered an act of war. I advise you turn over those ships that belong rightfully to the Imperial Crown or we will use extreme force to regain them and punish your nation accordingly.

I say again, return our property, and go peacefully. Insist on retaining what you have no less than stolen...then I will turn every resource in this Empire towards your destruction.

Your former friend and ally,
Napoleon IV
Emperor of Greater Prussia.

OOC: No hard feelings OOCly. But, you really need to return what is ours, I don't think you want a unified strike by the entire armed forces. You will be welcome back in the Empire should you decide to change your mind, but I can hardly say that the Emperor ICly would see this as payment in kind for the loyalty he has accorded you. We will just put it that way.

I can't have that ICly. These are powerful weapons, and should something happen down the road, I do not want to face them myself. I hope you can understand it, but these beasts need to come with me. Besides, no one has permission to use them, they'll just end up as rusting hulls. So, they come with me as they'll still be able to be used. They're my babys, and I can't let them deteriorate, we're a proud nation, especially in our navy.

The dispatch of one Solidarity-class carrier (http://s13.invisionfree.com/HNAM/index.php?showtopic=28) and four Triumph-class support frigates (http://s13.invisionfree.com/HNAM/index.php?showtopic=30) had come at the request of Greater Prussian authorities. They were all new ships, nice and shiny. After stocking up on ammunition, they FTL'd from the Halladi homworld to Earth, where they met up with several logistics frigates who refueled the ships. They Halladi vessels moved into orbit over Pschycotic Pschycos and a message was relayed to them.

End your seizure of Empire vessels at once, or action will be taken.

OOC: Hmmm....

Tag.

The dispatch of one Solidarity-class carrier (http://s13.invisionfree.com/HNAM/index.php?showtopic=28) and four Triumph-class support frigates (http://s13.invisionfree.com/HNAM/index.php?showtopic=30) had come at the request of Greater Prussian authorities. They were all new ships, nice and shiny. After stocking up on ammunition, they FTL'd from the Halladi homworld to Earth, where they met up with several logistics frigates who refueled the ships. They Halladi vessels moved into orbit over Pschycotic Pschycos and a message was relayed to them.

End your seizure of Empire vessels at once, or action will be taken.

I'm sorry, Hallad, but I don't RP FT. Only PMT.

I am sorry PP, but I am aware of you possessing mobile suits and orbital combat stations...

I am sorry PP, but I am aware of you possessing mobile suits and orbital combat stations...

Both of which are PMT. Trust me, I've reasearched the feasiblity of both, and they're both within a hundred years of working, well before FT. Besides, I could never grasp FT enough for FTL travel and crap.

Both of which are PMT. Trust me, I've reasearched the feasiblity of both, and they're both within a hundred years of working, well before FT. Besides, I could never grasp FT enough for FTL travel and crap.

OOC: Sorry, PP, that's a definite no. An orbital battle station like Libra and mobile suits are undisputibly Future-tech, period.

If you don't RP FT, then you don't get either.

OOC: Sorry, PP, that's a definite no. An orbital battle station like Libra and mobile suits are undisputibly Future-tech, period.

If you don't RP FT, then you don't get either.

Fine, then I do RP FT.

IC:

So then in response to Hallad's aggression, we are scrambling 5 of our largest ships, star destroyers, along with two Executor Class Super Star Destroyers to fight. Along with them, 5 Agammenon and 5 Archangel mobile assault carriers shall be sent. LIBRA II shall back them up.

OOC: PP, those are pretty powerful ships, however, I do not mind this at present. Is it possible to set up an OOC thread where you will list your fleet? I also wonder when you built those Executors but I am ready to accept this if you at least do me the favor of listing your navy.

OOC: PP, those are pretty powerful ships, however, I do not mind this at present. Is it possible to set up an OOC thread where you will list your fleet? I also wonder when you built those Executors but I am ready to accept this if you at least do me the favor of listing your navy.

Do you mean space or surface fleets?

I've had those executors in reserve for a while now. Since about June.

OOC: Both. I believe you, but I just want a full list, so as to avoid confusion. Just start the OOC thread - don't want the clutter here.

OOC: There is no need.

A Brief Explanation:

Psychotic Psychos has gotten in a disagreement OOCly with another player in the Empire. He has taken the strategy of I will take my ball and go home...unfortunately the ball was actually mine and he didn't RP the resistance on the ships and the attacks that are occuring are for an OOC reason.

I had hoped it wouldn't have had to come to this, but I don't need to be associated with this type of hardcore wanking. All it will need to is an "I OMG NUKZ JOO!" war in which wanking will most surely abound and intelligence will flee from its path.

I am issuing an Imperial Ignore on Psychotic Pyschos which may be reversed if he decides to use proper RP (eg reverse his Godmod and not attack ICly for OOC reasons.)

OOC: There is no need.

A Brief Explanation:

Psychotic Psychos has gotten in a disagreement OOCly with another player in the Empire. He has taken the strategy of I will take my ball and go home...unfortunately the ball was actually mine and he didn't RP the resistance on the ships and the attacks that are occuring are for an OOC reason.

I had hoped it wouldn't have had to come to this, but I don't need to be associated with this type of hardcore wanking. All it will need to is an "I OMG NUKZ JOO!" war in which wanking will most surely abound and intelligence will flee from its path.

I am issuing an Imperial Ignore on Psychotic Pyschos which may be reversed if he decides to use proper RP (eg reverse his Godmod and not attack ICly for OOC reasons.)

I am NOT attacking. Sailors were sent home peacefully. If you want a war, I will not back down, but I do NOT want a war. I tried to leave PEACEFULLY taking the design of my ship. If I were to leave them, they would rust because I would not allow their use. Now, Allanea, here is the link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9575570#post9575570

ooc-
What he is saying is that sailors of various nations wouldn't go home peacefully. When you tr to send them home, they fight.

Then I shall put in an edit for an IC section so as it is more appropriate. I did not want any fighting in the fist place.

OOC: Unignored, thankyou for the edit. I know this may seem like ignorewanking, and I appologize if it does...but I believe this was legitimate.

OOC: Unignored, thankyou for the edit. I know this may seem like ignorewanking, and I appologize if it does...but I believe this was legitimate.

yes, I am preparing an IC version for this to happen.

OOC: PP, here is how you avoid a fight. Just give us back what is ours. Don't steal it. The ships that YOU donated. Take back. But the ships that are ours which are QUITE many...they are still ours even if the Pope designed them! Just give us back the ships and go.

OOC: PP, here is how you avoid a fight. Just give us back what is ours. Don't steal it. The ships that YOU donated. Take back. But the ships that are ours which are QUITE many...they are still ours even if the Pope designed them! Just give us back the ships and go.

I can't, the frame for ISLAND, ARKHANGLE, and PICES, designated ZIMMERMANN was named for my grandfather, Reuben Zimmermann, who was in the US Navy, and died of brain cancer. As such, I can't let them go. If you want WHALE, LIONFISH, and AEGIS, take them.

I can't, the frame for ISLAND, ARKHANGLE, and PICES, designated ZIMMERMANN was named for my grandfather, Reuben Zimmermann, who was in the US Navy, and died of brain cancer. As such, I can't let them go. If you want WHALE, LIONFISH, and AEGIS, take them.

OOC: Rename it. Also, remember, separate IC from OOC.

OOC: Rename it. Also, remember, separate IC from OOC.

I'm sorry, I can't do that.

I'm sorry, I can't do that.

OOC: What, rename it or seperate the two worlds?

Now, I've decided to return all those not based on the Zimmermann frame. If it's that big a deal, I'm prepared to fight, but I don't want to. What will it be folks? Yamamoto's in your castle, Derscon. I've got an IC post for this. What'll it be people, drop it or fight?

Pschycotic Pschycos,
The problem here is that the ships in the Imperial Navy, while under your command, BELONG to the Imperial Navy, plain and simple. You may have designed them, but they do belong to us, we do not plan on duplicating them, but we cannot have you just decide that your donation was more of a loan. ALL ships should be returned, you will be given credit for the designs, and they will not be replicated.

That's not the extent. They can't be USED by anyone. As they're my design, I can limit the production and use of them. If I have a promise to both, I can return them.

That's not the extent. They can't be USED by anyone. As they're my design, I can limit the production and use of them. If I have a promise to both, I can return them.

Actaully...once they are in possesion of someone else, it is there property to use as they wish. To use a slight extent of Reich's example...

If I purchase a car for the use of street racing, which is illegal, and the company which I purchased it from finds out, they cannot take it back, as I have already paid for it. If they gave me teh car for free, it still extends taht they cannot take it from me. You gave the ships to the Empire to use, and therefore, they become ships of the Empire, not ships of your nation. Therefore, taking them back would indeed be a case of international theft, and possibly an act of war. Now, I don't know about anyone else in the GPE, but I have no problem going to war and kicking some ass.

That's not the extent. They can't be USED by anyone. As they're my design, I can limit the production and use of them. If I have a promise to both, I can return them.

OOC: While I think that's complete and total BS -- as well as international theft -- coming from your point of view, I can almost see where you're coming from.

However, even from your point of view, you still can only keep those you manufactured. Remember, you gave me production rights for a few of them, and I churned them out just as fast if not faster than you did, and a lot of that went to the GPIN.

Also, even if Will decides to allow you to keep our ships, you would have to repay us for the lost money, etc, etc. After all, you designed them, but they are our ships. If you wanted to donate fifty bucks to the Red Cross, and then decideded you needed fifty bucks, you can't go to the ARC headquarters and demand your money back.

Fine, have your ships. I'll design worse. I myself donated about a third of the Z-Frames, I'll be taking those.

6 Islands

30 Zimmermanns

15 Pices and Arkhangels. You'll all see what I invent later. Not even an Island will stand up to it.

Fine, have your ships. I'll design worse.

OOC: You're not an idiot so I'm going to assume that was a typo.


I myself donated about a third of the Z-Frames, I'll be taking those.

6 Islands

30 Zimmermanns

15 Pices and Arkhangels. You'll all see what I invent later. Not even an Island will stand up to it.

OOC: Okay, whatever. Oh, and BTW, my approval isn't the final word. You still need Will's.

OOC: You're not an idiot so I'm going to assume that was a typo.




OOC: Okay, whatever. Oh, and BTW, my approval isn't the final word. You still need Will's.

What typo? I'll design worse as in the damage caused from it will be worse. Worse for whoever crosses one. In fact, I finished a minute ago. I'll have a thread later, but meet HONOR-Class Superdreadnaught. Out-guns ISLAND. Maybe you thought I meant better. Depends on your standpoint.

Doesn't matter, the only one that's actually a third is 6 ISLANDS.

OOC: Good luck with your ship. Also, my approval is there. Thankyou for finally being reasonable about it.

All Ridgian forces have been ordred to stand down.

Yeah, sorry, I've been running on short-nerves the last few days. School starting and crap. Anyhoo, I'm not too good when I have a temper. :(

What typo? I'll design worse as in the damage caused from it will be worse. Worse for whoever crosses one.

OOC: Oh, okay. I misunderstood you.

However, my two cents -- I don't give a crap. Your current navy would bankrupt you as-is. THe ISLAND is so big that it would be a logistical impossiblity to maintain out at sea, and you have so much of them, you'd run out of supplies and money by the first week.

And you're designing a bigger ship? It's pointless. But that's my two cents.

OOC: Oh, okay. I misunderstood you.

However, my two cents -- I don't give a crap. Your current navy would bankrupt you as-is. THe ISLAND is so big that it would be a logistical impossiblity to maintain out at sea, and you have so much of them, you'd run out of supplies and money by the first week.

And you're designing a bigger ship? It's pointless. But that's my two cents.

Oh, we might be freeing up assets elsewhere...I'll find something. Also, our cruisers are automated, so funds from there feed into the rest of us.

Oh, we might be freeing up assets elsewhere...I'll find something. Also, our cruisers are automated, so funds from there feed into the rest of us.

OOC: First off, thank you for interpreting my post as constructive critisism and not an ad hominem attack.

Well, you still have to shell out tons of matenence costs for the cuisers, and you still need computer people on board the cruisers, and overall it's gonna be less-cost-effective than a regular cruiser.

And okay, but even if you strip funding from somewhere, it would still be impossible to logistically support a craft as large as the Island for more than a week or so, if that.