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sign up here for the 16th installment of the Cherry Cup. Now with 15% more fluoride.

Corneliu Penquins signs up!

Nice poll options too. :D

this is the correct sign-up thread.

all other sign-up threads are hereby declared null and void.

do not press any red buttons.

The other thread was full of Droids? My hearing must have gone funny.

Rayzors will be there, threatening to go all the way as per usual.

Milchama will sign up for the ice hockey to appease my cousins who want more and more hockey in my life. (i like hockey but their crazy obessed and they live in israel)

Oliverry will sign-up for this cup, but hopes that they will not get eliminated in first round(to do this, I'll try to pull a CC9 and bid to host)

New Rynn will send the Han Dold City Breakers, as soon as we can conscript- I mean, recruit some hockey players

I'll sign up... though my rank is shot to hell :mp5: :sniper:

Lovisa sign up

Vilita signs up and threatens to whack hockey canada if she complains one more time about her rank

Clavis wants to sign up for Cherry Cup 16.

Well, I want to clarify about my bid to host: Oliverry and Hockey Canada will put a bid together to host Cherry Cup 16

NMS would like to send a bunch of Quebecois to play hockey with you guys.

Make Shure We On The Score Card This Time

Casari will join in the competition for the second time, when I won't actually be on vacation during the whole freaking thing. And if I do, I'm replacing my goalie with a clone of Vladislav Tretiak so I don't lose in my absence.

Squornshelous signs up, with delusions of less horribleness than last times.

Druida will sneak in again.

The Tanah Burung ice hockey federation threatens to commit random typos in every post.

Again.

And Sister Hale Maria is insulted to be included on this list. She reminds everyone that she is a sweet old nun and would never hurt a living being for any reason, unless they were a dwarf.

Corneliu is through in its hat in the hosting ring.

The Sarzonia Blizzards would like to sign up for Cherry Cup XVI.

HCO(Hockey Canada/Oliverry) hosting bid for CC16(Cherry Cup 16)


Scorinator: The mighty leagion


Formats:

24 teams: 8 groups composed of 3 teams: each team plays twice against each other teams in his group. Top 2 goes in the playoffs

28 teams: 7 groups composed of 4 teams each. Each team plays twice against each other teams in his group. Top 2 goes in the playoffs.
Top 2 qualifyers gets a bye to the Quarter-finals.

30 teams: 6 groups of 5 teams each. Each team plays twice against each team in their group. Top 3 passes to the next round. Worst 4 of those teams get to play a wild-card game to decide who goes to the Round of 16.

32 teams: 8 groups of 4 teams each. Each team plays twice against each team of its group. Top 2 goes to the next round

Venues:

Oliverry:

Marshalliston Stadium:
Located: Marshalliston, Capitale, Oliverry
Seats: 100, 000 places
Local team(s):
- Marshalliston FC(OSL)
- Marshalliston Bowlers(OFL)

Place des Anges
Located: Saint-Francois, Sud, Oliverry
Seats: 27, 345 places
Local team(s):
- Anges de Saint-Francois(OHL)

Beach Arena
Located: Santa Jeanne, Estrasie, Oliverry
Seats: 16, 480 places
Local team(s): Coastal Oceans

Hockey Canada:

http://kola.netix.cz/2001_1/images/09-globen1.jpg
Name: World Park Arena
Capacity: 22,780
Built: 1999

http://www.maggiesale.ca/Toronto/Toronto%201/air%20canada%20centre%202.jpg
Name: Hockey Canada Pavillion
Capacity: 25,000
Built: 2003

http://www.london2012.org/NR/rdonlyres/16CCD11C-2700-4A5E-A1E9-6C9BD898C2A4/0/stadium_external.jpg
Name: RIM Park
Capacity: 23,000
Built: 2005

Well, I want to clarify about my bid to host: Oliverry and Hockey Canada will put a bid together to host Cherry Cup 16

Wow. I never thought I would see that happen in my NS lifetime.

Chicanada of course will be attending and threaten to sneak into the Semis for a change. That or send our rabbling fans out after a footy match

The Blades will be back and threaten to beat Starblaydia again if we are paired together again :P

Signs down.

Despite the plethora of mandible injuries due to thousands of jaws similtaneously dropping throughout our fair nation, the Bettia Icebergs sign up again.

The Holy Empire of Jon Parkin will sign up, and will be captained by Pingu, who they have brought in as the rest of the country have never seen ice or snow before.

The Ice Terminators are back. Bid to host pending discussion with a few people...

The Blades will be back and threaten to beat Starblaydia again if we are paired together again :P

Ah of course, as Rayzors being in the Semi-Finals while the Blades went out at the group stage is obviously of little comfort to us. I guess we'll just have to cry into our (currently) two Cherry Cups.

Upon seeing the poll at the beginning of the thread, Druida puts forward it's threat: to unleash said lesser seen Druida fan #3 upon an unexpecting Cherry Cup 16!

Although now the threat has been made, it won't be so unexpected...

Corneliu will not participate if we are forced to play in Hockey Canada.

*Submission for bid coming shortly*

Squornshelous threatens to to blow up our team again, along with any other teams standing adjacent to them.

How would you know that you'd met the third Druidan fan, though?

Queen: Pretty obvious.
Dwarf in a tutu: Disturbingly obvious.
Primate Academic: Hopefully obvious.
Drunk Druidan: Can you narrow it down a little more, please?

Professor Ms. Digbotch, who is pleased to meet any well-endowed males in any dark alley of their choosing (she may be contacted via Bipedaleen University at 17-4605-1321 to make arrangements) has indicated that she will be delighted to round up another half-dozen youngsters and shove them onto a pitch of frozen water with razor-sharp blades fastened to their hind feet and wicked curved scimitar-bats in their fore feet (or as we upright-walkers like to call them, hands). This is just the sort of sport we need more of, she says.

CORNELIU'S HOSTING BID

Scoring: If someone can send me legion and tell me how to work that, I'll be mighty grateful.

Format:

If we only have 24 Teams, we'll have 6 divisions of 4 teams each. From those divisions, the top 2 teams will move on to the second round of the tournament. The 2nd group phase will 12 teams divided into 2 divisions of 6 teams each. The top 4 teams from each division will move to a single elimination knock out tournament.

If we have only 28 teams, we'll have 4 Divisions of 7 teams each. Each team will play eachother once. At the end of that, the top 4 teams from each division will move on to the 2nd round of the tournament. There will be 4 divisions of 4 teams each and they'll play eachother once. The top 2 teams from here will move to the elite 8 and play for the cherry cup.

If we have 30 teams, We'll have 5 divisions of 6 teams each. The top 3 teams here will move on followed by the next 6 teams. They'll be divided into 4 divisions of 4 teams each. Top 2 from each division moves on to the knockout phase of the tournament.

If we have 32 teams, it'll be divided into 4 Divisions of 8 Teams each. Each team plays eachother once The top 4 teams from this round will move on to the 2nd round. They'll be divided into 4 divisions of 4 teams each. Then the top 2 teams from each division moves to the quarter finals and the knockout phase of the tournament.

Venues:

Arena: Featherston Arena
City: Featherston City
Seating: 85,752

Arena: Veterans Memorial Stadium
City: Lawrenceville
Seating 24,794

Arena: Millersville Civic Center
City: Millersville
Seating 34,729

Arena: Carliton National Arena
City Carliton City
Seating: 53,967

Arena: Ardvark Arena
City Ardvark City
Seating 31,528

Arena: Sharks Teeth
City: San Jose
Seating: 35,853

Leagion on the wiki (ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Leagion)

Leagion on the wiki (ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Leagion)

Thanks now where can I download it so that I can use it?

East Lithuania would like to sign up

Thanks now where can I download it so that I can use it?

Oh bejesus, open. your. eyes. (http://www.chd-koeln.de/rejistania)

Oh bejesus, open. your. eyes. (http://www.chd-koeln.de/rejistania)

I already figured that out! Don't get indignant with me either Starblaydia!

There might be a change to our bid. We are currently in disussion with Liverpool England about a joint bid.

Ah of course, as Rayzors being in the Semi-Finals while the Blades went out at the group stage is obviously of little comfort to us. I guess we'll just have to cry into our (currently) two Cherry Cups.
*Steals Cups*

Er 'I demand Satisfaction'
*Takes off Gloves*
*Slaps Starblaydia*

"We will avenge the revenge inflicted on us in the Semifinal of the current Cup and show we are better than the mispelt Blaydes whom we bet in another Cup!"

Blaydes>Blades>Blades*
*Harlesburg=Best!

Egads! Iansisle signs up, however belatedly!

*slaps self for losing track of the Cherry Cup*

Signing up yet again, but with the caveat that we will withdraw if Hockey Canada has anything to do with the hosting again.

The Progressans sign up, and will bid for hosting rights provided a satisfactory co-host is found.

KP, you're not forced to have a co-host. I just decided to have one, and everybody followed my idea.

And to everyone not signing up because of Hockey Canada, I would like to know why.

KP, you're not forced to have a co-host. I just decided to have one, and everybody followed my idea.

And to everyone not signing up because of Hockey Canada, I would like to know why.

Perhaps it is because the last time she hosted a tourny, it wasn't runned very well.

But I am here anyway to ensure it will. I know everyone that were here at the time remembers CC9 but I will make sure that nothing happens about bad running or such.

I'm going along with the co-host idea for the same reason it's now a universal consensus in the World Cup - it's backup in case RL strikes, and it saves me finding someone seemingly at random to scorinate my matches.

KP, you're not forced to have a co-host. I just decided to have one, and everybody followed my idea.

And to everyone not signing up because of Hockey Canada, I would like to know why.

As Corneliu said, Hockey Canada's hosting was very poorly run, biased, and the ranking and scoring were opaque. This was

In addition, Hockey Canada was rude to the point they are now on my ignore list, never to be removed, making it difficult to participate if they host or co-host.

All in all, I do not trust Hockey Canada to be a fair or enjoyable host or co-host. As I said I absolutely will not participate if they have anything to do with the hosting.

(Note: Just to head off anyone who wants to criticise me for complaining but not putting in my own bid, I will not put in a bid for hosting as I would not be able to include Hockey Canada. I want to see a fair hosting.)

The Spruitland Ice Bunnies will be present again and they threaten to disagree with all the silly complaints about Hockey Canada's hosting.

Oh what the hell. *executes threat*
There.
Personally I'd be much less inclined to vote for someone to host who starts off with threatening to boycot if someone else gets to host. But of course, I'm not voting.

The Formal Dances Dancers will sign up again and we threaten to bring Rachel West with us!

I think everyone needs to lighten up on HC a little. I agree that the CC13 hosting job was not done too well, but boycotting the Cherry Cup if HC hosts isn't going to do anyone any good. If you don't like the possibility that someone you don't like or think is a bad host could host the cup, you don't need to put stupid little ultimatums in your sign up post. The only thing you accomplish by that is pissing off HC and annoying people like me. You're just adding to the problem.

And why single out HC? As I remember, I did a pretty bad job on Cherry Cup 6, but I've never seen anyone post, "I quit if Squorn hosts again!" Sure, HC messed up, but was it really that bad? No. Just give up the grudge and shut up.

I was CC9 host :p . HC hosted CC13

I was CC9 host :p . HC hosted CC13

Yeah, well 9 is next to 13 on my keyboard.

http://images.ibsys.com/2003/0429/2165787.jpg
I could not have been wrong!

Personally, i would be very keen to meet Druida Fan #3 in an ally. I hear his nickname is Moose.

Professor Ms. Digbotch is reportedly pleased to see that she is tied for the lead in voting for the hockeyball female one would not least like to meet in a dark alley; meaning, she presumes, that she is the one most favored for dark-alley meeting, though she still awaits the phone calls from those aforementioned well-endowed males.

Feel free to call her, boys. Or post your interest here. She isn't picky.

The LEIHL would be interested in cooperating with the Progressans after the very successful FHWC6 (yeah, right). Just a mention of interest, possible bids are with Corneliu and KP right now.

The only Puppet to ever win a sporting event will sign up again

The only Puppet to ever win a sporting event will sign up again

Nova Britannicus won the Cup of Harmony, so that statement is false. Though I assume its a TMK sign-up.

Make Shure We On The Score Card This Time

Did I mention we are signing up

Since VAR Is not here at the moment I thought i'd do it for him

Sign Ups

Teams 30

Corneilu penguins
Starblaydia Rayzors
Milchama
Oliverry
New Rynn Breakers
Hockey Canada
Lovisa
Vilita
Clavis
New Montreal States
Tonissia
Casari
SquornshelousDruida
Tanah Burung
Sarzonia
Druidia
Chicanada
FMJPheonix
Harelsburg
Bettia
Jon Parkin
Liverpool England Ice terminators
Bipeadal Apes
East Lithuania2
Iansisle
Diastallia 2014
Kaze Progressa Progressans
Spruitland
Formal Dances Dancers
The Mushroom Kingship

Hosting bids

Oliverry and HC
Cornielu
Kaze Progressa

Since VAR Is not here at the moment I thought i'd do it for him

Sign Ups

Teams 30

Corneilu penguins
Starblaydia Rayzors
Milchama
Oliverry
New Rynn Breakers
Hockey Canada
Lovisa
Vilita
Clavis
New Montreal States
Tonissia
Casari
Squornshelous
Druida
Tanah Burung
Sarzonia
Chicanada
FMJPheonix
Harelsburg
Bettia
Jon Parkin
Liverpool England Ice terminators
Bipeadal Apes
East Lithuania2
Iansisle
Diastallia 2014
Kaze Progressa Progressans
Spruitland
Formal Dances Dancers
The Mushroom Kingship

Hosting bids

Oliverry and HC
Cornielu
Kaze Progressa



I have edited the list accordingly.

I have edited the list accordingly.

Fixed

Since VAR Is not here at the moment I thought i'd do it for him

Sign Ups
Diastallia 2014


One wonders who this is? No one named "Diastallia 2104" seems to have posted. ;)

(Squornshelous, as I said above, HC is on my ignore list. His hosting would make it impossible for me to read significant parts of the tourny.)

Liverpool England's bid offer to both KP and Corneliu still stands.

And now, the full list of Cherry Cup XVI participants, as completed by Druida fan #2 in the style of Very Angry Rabbits...

For those new to the Cherry Cup, the Host is selected by the Cup Founder, and the Hosts of the past two Cups. For Cherry Cup XVI that will be Kalaallit Nunaat, Very Angry Rabbits and Chicanada.

Participants
Kalaallit Nunaat - Iceberg colours are red and white
Corneliu - Penguins colors are black and gold
Starblaydia - Rayzors colors are purple (and more purple) (http://www.starblaydestudios.co.uk/Images/CCKit.jpg) CCCC (Current Cherry Cup Champions)
Milchama
Oliverry - colors are green, blue and red (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image1.png), alternate jersy (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image2.png)
New Rynn - Han Dold City Breakers
Hockey Canada - Flyers logo (http://www.onlinesports.com/images/jhd-nhl-flyers.jpg) colors are white, red and black (http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/homeflyers.gif) alternate jersy (http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/awayflyers.gif)
Lovisa - Polish Bisons colors are dark blue, white and blue
Vilita - Ice Cats colors are orange and teal
Clavis
New Montreal States - Ice Paladins
Tonissia - Ice Comets
Casari - Freshmen
Squornshelous - Ferrets colors are red and black
Druida - Lightning colors are brown, slightly darker brown and yellow (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/NEWI/cherrykits.bmp)
Tanah Burung - Cassowaries colors are yellow, black and red
Sarzonia - Blizzards
Chicanada - Kodiaks colors are red, blue and gold
Fmjphoenix - Blades colors are green and blue
Harlesburg - Blades
Bettia - Icebergs colors are green and yellow
Jon Parkin
Liverpool England - Ice Treminators colors are red, yellow and blue
Bipedal Apes - Skate-footers
East Lithuanuia 2
Iansisle - Gulls colors are white, orange and blue (http://www.sandiegomag.com/issues/february00/images/gulls.jpg)
Daistallia 2104 - Gold Coins
Kaze Progressa
Spruitland - Ice Bunnies colors are lime green with red trim and a little black bunny (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/Spruitland/SPRhockeykit.jpg)
Formal Dances - Waltzers
The Mushroom Kingship - The Flying Goombas


Hosting bids
Oliverry and Hockey canada
Corneliu
Kaze Progressa currently hunting for a co-host, we hear


So Far...
31 Participants
3 Bids to Host
8 Threateners with 8 Threats

Threats
Vilita - Threatens to whack Hockey Canada if she complains one more time about her rank. Just saying what we're all thinking...
Tanah Burung - Threatens to commit random typos in every post. We were kinda expecting that already...[size]
chicanada - Threatens to make the semi-finals or bring in the rabbling football fans. [size=1]Football fans? They can keep their pansy kicking a ball round a field thing. Hockey's the sport for us!
Fmjphoenix - Threatens to beat Starblaydia if paired together again. You just never know in this game...
Druida - Threatens to unleash Druida fan #3 on the world. As if two of the damn drunks wasn't enough...
Squornshelous - Threatens to blow their own team up, as well as any standing adjacent to them. Expect tickets to see the Ferrets to come with a safety warning attatched.
Daistallia 2104 - Threatens to pull out should Hockey Canada hosts. Sounds more like a promise to me...
Formal Dnaces - Threaten to bring Rachel West with them. Just wait until she meets Druida fan #3


History of The Don Cherry Cup
The Don Cherry Cup was founded by Kalaallit Nunaat to provide an arena for an NS Ice Hockey tournament, recognizing excellence in the sport, and a forum for a bunch of fun.

Past Champions
Cherry Cup 1: SterlingIce
Cherry Cup 2: Soviet Haaregrad
Cherry Cup 3: Tranquillitis
Cherry Cup 4: Eizen
Cherry Cup 5: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 6: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 7: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 8: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 11: Robotopolis
Cherry Cup 12: Robotopolis
Cherry Cup 13: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 14: The Mushroom Kingship
Cherry Cup 15: Starblaydia

Past Hosts
Cherry Cup 1: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 2: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 3: Kaze Progressa
Cherry Cup 4: The Belmore Family
Cherry Cup 5: The Gulf States
Cherry Cup 6: Squornshelous
Cherry Cup 7: Liverpool England
Cherry Cup 8: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 11: Chicanada
Cherry Cup 12: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 13: Hockey Canada
Cherry Cup 14: Very Angry Rabbits
Cherry Cup 15: Chicanada

Druida fan #2 hopes that those Very Angry Rabbits don't get too angry that we stole the exact format of their list. And we hope they manage to sign up, too.

Tretiak is sad. He was not included in the threats. But, considering I won't be on vacation, his presence would not be needed.

thanks for those who put the sign-up lists together!

before calling for votes, a little more time for the co-hosting bids to be worked out...

Liverpool. Get in contact with me please if you still want to cohost

I think everyone needs to lighten up on HC a little. I agree that the CC13 hosting job was not done too well, but boycotting the Cherry Cup if HC hosts isn't going to do anyone any good. If you don't like the possibility that someone you don't like or think is a bad host could host the cup, you don't need to put stupid little ultimatums in your sign up post. The only thing you accomplish by that is pissing off HC and annoying people like me. You're just adding to the problem.

And why single out HC? As I remember, I did a pretty bad job on Cherry Cup 6, but I've never seen anyone post, "I quit if Squorn hosts again!" Sure, HC messed up, but was it really that bad? No. Just give up the grudge and shut up.With all due respect, I can handle a less than quality hosting job as long as the tournament is run fairly, politely, and reaches the end. Apparently, HC failed to do two of the three. In my mind, that makes the gripes legitimate.

I'm not going to go so far as to make that kind of announcement, but if someone I object to becomes host, I can and should reserve the right to reconsider whether or not I want to participate.

With all due respect, I can handle a less than quality hosting job as long as the tournament is run fairly, politely, and reaches the end. Apparently, HC failed to do two of the three. In my mind, that makes the gripes legitimate.

I'm not going to go so far as to make that kind of announcement, but if someone I object to becomes host, I can and should reserve the right to reconsider whether or not I want to participate.

By all means, you can and should be allowed to pull out, I'm not disagreeing with you there. I just think it's a pointless thing to do.

The best Ice Hockey team in the NS world evah will now threaten to make lots of references to their record-breaking 3-time Cherry Cup Championships, whilst laughing at the Fmjphoenix 'Blades' attempts at pretending they're better than us.

Professor Ms. Digbotch was just noticing that she's now all alone in the lead in the poll deciding which hockeyball female would be most preferred for a dark-alley meeting. She's very pleased.

I feel like putting in a threat so here is a threat.
Milchama threatens to have at least one player thrown out of every game for fighting
(hey my country's name does mean war in hebrew wouldn't you expect my players to be thugs)

Also one more thing my team nickname is the Ice Thugs

Ok, let's rule something...

You're blaming Hockey Canada for her hosting but, nobody seems to realise that she's my co-host. So, I don't see why the cup can be bad if we host it. Anyway, we can learn from our mistakes. Like when I hosted Cherry Cup 9. Now, every playoff game that one of the Oliverrian teams play are simmed by other people(nations) so that Cherry Cup 9 situation doesn't come back. If I asked HC to co-host with me, it's because I know that she will be able to make a good quality hosting.

The Clavis team would like to be called the Falcons.

Another Tonissian Puppet signs up







S.Packerlands

Another Tonissian Puppet signs up







S.Packerlands


I was always under the impression that 'puppets' were not in the spirit of the cherry cup. Especially ones that you will never RP with

The Skater-Footers' kit looks something like this (http://www.e-gnu.com/country_info/rwanda/images/gorilla_male.jpg). You have to imagine the stenciled number bleached into her fur, and the bat and bladeboots, as this particular ape was photographed while not playing hockeyball.

Ok, let's rule something...

You're blaming Hockey Canada for her hosting but, nobody seems to realise that she's my co-host. So, I don't see why the cup can be bad if we host it. Anyway, we can learn from our mistakes. Like when I hosted Cherry Cup 9. Now, every playoff game that one of the Oliverrian teams play are simmed by other people(nations) so that Cherry Cup 9 situation doesn't come back. If I asked HC to co-host with me, it's because I know that she will be able to make a good quality hosting.

She still has to host in her nation. Sorry but I will not have my nation inside hers whatsoever.

I was always under the impression that 'puppets' were not in the spirit of the cherry cup. Especially ones that you will never RP with


I signed up with two puppets in prvious Cherry cups so whats the big deal, Its not like I rp with Tonissia Anyway

Ok, let's rule something...

You're blaming Hockey Canada for her hosting but, nobody seems to realise that she's my co-host. So, I don't see why the cup can be bad if we host it. Anyway, we can learn from our mistakes. Like when I hosted Cherry Cup 9. Now, every playoff game that one of the Oliverrian teams play are simmed by other people(nations) so that Cherry Cup 9 situation doesn't come back. If I asked HC to co-host with me, it's because I know that she will be able to make a good quality hosting.

Good hosting assumes that all posters will be able to read the host's posts.

Not tio be picky or nosy (since I get to be a decider in the next host) duid I miss how poorly run HC did with CCXIII? Besides the slight against Daistallia 2104 (which was unfortunant but I would like to say I missed KN even mentioning anything about it originally) I thought the cup was run well. Of course, I pretty much left it alone when Chicanada lost to KN in the Round of 16, so maybe I missed something else?

I would also like to point out that I've done a hockey Scorinator in Excel that scorinates pretty realistic scores(more realistic than Kareleagion does). This scorinator will be used in case HCO wins the hosting rights for CC16

Leagion's defence coefficient is changeable.

Liverpool England solo bid; possible cohost attempt to come with KP, or Corneliu.

Leagion's defence coefficient is changeable.

Liverpool England solo bid; possible cohost attempt to come with KP, or Corneliu.

We're willing to co-host with L.E.

OOC: Be advised that in less than a week, I will be moving back to my university so I'll be unavailable Saturday and Sunday.

Not tio be picky or nosy (since I get to be a decider in the next host) duid I miss how poorly run HC did with CCXIII? Besides the slight against Daistallia 2104 (which was unfortunant but I would like to say I missed KN even mentioning anything about it originally) I thought the cup was run well. Of course, I pretty much left it alone when Chicanada lost to KN in the Round of 16, so maybe I missed something else?


HC stated that RP bonuses would be included and apparantly did not do so. I don't care if they are or not, but if the stated scoring system says they will be included and they aren't, that is a cheat.

Also, all indications point to my having been penalised for IC actions. After objecting IC to his IC slight, according to the results, my team failed to score a single point for the rest of the tourney. I also consider this a cheat.

Bid Format of LE/Corneliu Cherry Cup:

-> ONE of South Packerlands, Tonissia OR The Mushroom Kingship WILL have to withdraw, leaving
-> ONE empty space
-> 32 teams
-> Four groups of eight; one game against each (seven matchdays)
-> Top three from each group qualify
-> Group winners and runners up in one group of eight; one game against each (seven matchdays), second runners-up in group of four; two games against each (six matchdays)
-> Top two from each group qualifies
-> Semifinals
-> Final
-> Total matchdays: 7+7+1+1 = 16; with three rest days including one extra rest day for the four-team group

-> Leagion; ranks as provided multiplied by three; new teams/unranked teams get ranking of [LOWEST RANK PROVIDED * 3 - 5]
-> RP bonus: 0.25rank per 1000-character RP OR 0.5rank per 250 word RP

-> NO overtime in group stage
-> Sudden-death OT in semifinals/final
-> 2pts/win in group stage; 1 pt/draw
-> Ties sorted by win PCT/goals scored/goal difference

HC stated that RP bonuses would be included and apparantly did not do so. I don't care if they are or not, but if the stated scoring system says they will be included and they aren't, that is a cheat.

Also, all indications point to my having been penalised for IC actions. After objecting IC to his IC slight, according to the results, my team failed to score a single point for the rest of the tourney. I also consider this a cheat.

I suppose an opinion from a 'neutral observer' might be in order here, and even though I don't like to get involved in this sort of bull, it may as well be me.

I'm sure you believe your above statement to be true, but from my point of view, I'm afraid, it doesn't look that way.
I have no idea how the RP-bonuses worked in CC13 or how much influence they had, but it must've been some, because that was my first CC, and I made it - starting unranked, obviously - to the semi finals. I roleplayed quite a lot in that tournament - not sure how often, but at least once per matchday - so it seems logical that that was at least part of the reason why I got so far (luck being the other part).

I remembered your complaints from the time of the tournament, and went through the thread again just now, and I can see no indication of RP bonuses not being applied or you getting a "negative" RP bonus, apart from your claims.
You were unranked in that tournament as well, contributed one and a half roleplay in the early stage, but since that didn't result in an immediate win you stopped roleplaying, and then came back near the end of the tournament to complain about how HC wronged you. You had some other complaints as well, but they made even less sense.

Since then you've brought up this whole business several more times, causing a bit of a "where there's smoke, there must be fire" reaction among some people, apparently.
I'm not saying HC's hosting of the Cherry Cup was brilliant, there were some minor hiccups here and there, as there are with pretty much every first-time hosting, but I saw nothing at all that justifies this kind of ruckus, and nothing that would stand in the way of HC hosting it a second time.

To sum it up nicely, something Iansisle replied to you during the original storm-in-glass-of-water:

Dude, Daistallia, calm down.

-> Ties sorted by win PCT/goals scored/goal difference
What would happen if these were all identical, as they were between me and Chicanada in the second round of the last cup? Because the game between our two teams was drawn, it came down to who beat the bottom team (VAR), which is a shame because we lost.

What would happen if these were all identical, as they were between me and Chicanada in the second round of the last cup? Because the game between our two teams was drawn, it came down to who beat the bottom team (VAR), which is a shame because we lost.


I suppose we could do Win+Draw PCT... or a one-off playoff.

I suppose an opinion from a 'neutral observer' might be in order here, and even though I don't like to get involved in this sort of bull, it may as well be me.

I'm sure you believe your above statement to be true, but from my point of view, I'm afraid, it doesn't look that way.
I have no idea how the RP-bonuses worked in CC13 or how much influence they had, but it must've been some, because that was my first CC, and I made it - starting unranked, obviously - to the semi finals. I roleplayed quite a lot in that tournament - not sure how often, but at least once per matchday - so it seems logical that that was at least part of the reason why I got so far (luck being the other part).

I remembered your complaints from the time of the tournament, and went through the thread again just now, and I can see no indication of RP bonuses not being applied or you getting a "negative" RP bonus, apart from your claims.
You were unranked in that tournament as well, contributed one and a half roleplay in the early stage, but since that didn't result in an immediate win you stopped roleplaying, and then came back near the end of the tournament to complain about how HC wronged you. You had some other complaints as well, but they made even less sense.

Since then you've brought up this whole business several more times, causing a bit of a "where there's smoke, there must be fire" reaction among some people, apparently.
I'm not saying HC's hosting of the Cherry Cup was brilliant, there were some minor hiccups here and there, as there are with pretty much every first-time hosting, but I saw nothing at all that justifies this kind of ruckus, and nothing that would stand in the way of HC hosting it a second time.

To sum it up nicely, something Iansisle replied to you during the original storm-in-glass-of-water:

The only reason I ever bring it up is when people ask why I will not play with HC. I've actually tried to avoid the subject, and I'm getting tired of having to explain myself over and over again.

On that note, I will reafter refuse to answer any one who asks why I will not play if HC host, except to state "personal reasons". Is that OK by everyone? :)

The only reason I ever bring it up is when people ask why I will not play with HC. I've actually tried to avoid the subject, and I'm getting tired of having to explain myself over and over again.

On that note, I will reafter refuse to answer any one who asks why I will not play if HC host, except to state "personal reasons". Is that OK by everyone? :)

All those directly involved (and many, like myself and Spruitland, who are just bystanders of this whole charade) know your reasons why. I think Spruitland's point was more a different interpretation of how the situation could be viewed. But if you feel like you do, and you don't want to take part, then that's your choice. If that happens, we would do well to respect that, and hope to welcome you back to Cherry Cup 17.

I shall stop now before I begin to ramble like a Kodiak. ;)

Kaze Progressa confirm that they will in fact be making an individual bid for CC16 hosting.

Starblaydia have confirmed they will scorinate results for the home team.

An NSWiki entry with technical information on the bid will appear shortly. I can reveal that there will be innovations in scorination.

Druida remains neutral in it's support. This is down to the fact that both Druida fans are still officially Hockey Canadian, but the players recognise that the Progressans are sports mad. :)

Genghis-khanistan wants in!

Information on the Progressan bid is here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Cherry_Cup_16_Progressan_bid).

Adrasuvare's National Team or the Under 23 team if required would like to enter the Cherry Cup of Ice Hockey or its qualifier if necessary.

IC: Due to a state of war in our nation, the Sarzonian national hockey team announces that it must withdraw from the Cherry Cup and will not take part in the 16th edition of this tournament.

OOC: As some of you know, I'm going to war with Pantera and I've still got other RPs to tie up (not to mention the World Cup of Basketball tournament that I'm co-hosting). However, if it weren't for some unfortunate behaviour by some people involved here, I might have still given this tournament a go.

So the OOC reasons for this withdrawal are as follows:

1) I'm at war
2) I've got too many other RPs in the fire
3) The Cherry Cup is way too unstructured and there's too much bickering

Have fun.

Anyway, I can arrange something. HC and me will not simulate like the hosts do in the World Cup: the groups will be separated in 2 parts(Oliverry and Hockey Canada) that will play in the nation their group is. So, if Daistallia can't see the scores that HC scorinated, I will put his team in a group that I have the scorination rights in.

I would also like to say that Hockey Canada will be in one of my groups and I will be in one of her groups. Like that, it will be fair for everyone

Anyway, I can arrange something. HC and me will not simulate like the hosts do in the World Cup: the groups will be separated in 2 parts(Oliverry and Hockey Canada) that will play in the nation their group is. So, if Daistallia can't see the scores that HC scorinated, I will put his team in a group that I have the scorination rights in.

I would also like to say that Hockey Canada will be in one of my groups and I will be in one of her groups. Like that, it will be fair for everyone

That's a good acceptable solution. :)

glad that's resolved.

so our candidates to host are:
- Oliverry/Hockey Canada
- Corneliu/Liverpool England
- Kaze Progressa

votes have been requested from the two past hosts (Chicanada, VAR).

Too late to get in on this?

Wow, I remember you way back when :)
With Sarzonia now out, I suspect it's not too late now.

poppuli is back, with the slightly retarted right defenseman and same team as cherry cup 14

Too late to get in on this?

The South Packerlands Will Bow out and give there spot to The Gulf States

With Sarzonia's withdrawal that SHOULD make 32 teams, perfect for the CLE bid.

I shall stop now before I begin to ramble like a Kodiak. ;)

Hey now, it's best not be rabbling like a Kodiak cuz they are a little irked by how badly their footy team has done in your tourney ;)

Oh, I already sent my votes and good luck to the three bids

With Poppuli's sign-up, we're now 33

No worries... our hosting bid should be more than enough to handle all teams... no matter what the number

With Poppuli's sign-up, we're now 33

Actually one of Ton's puppets withdrew too.

The Progressan bid also incorporated a 32-team structure, so if we are indeed on 32 this is good news for us. And probably everyone else too, as it's a nice number to work with. :)

powers of two are always good numbers for tournaments. I still remember trying to run CC6 with 22 teams. :headbang:

Well, 33 is still a good number:

3 parts:

Qualifying:

10 groups of 3 where every team play twice against each other teams of his group

2 hosts + last champion goes straight to the next round

firsts of each group goes to next round

Seconds play a playoff match to decide who goes to next round. So 15+3=18 participants to the next round

Next round is Preliminary Round

2 groups of 9 teams

Each team plays once against each other team in his group

6 firsts from each group goes to the playoffs

Playoffs:

The 2 firsts of each group go directly to quarterfinals

1st round of playoff:

G1: 3rd Group A vs 6th Group B
G2: 4th Group A vs 5th Group B
G3: 4th Group B vs 5th Group A
G4: 5th Group B vs 6th Group A

Quarter-Finals:

G5: 1st Group A vs Winner G1
G6: 2nd Group A vs Winner G2
G7: 2nd Group B vs Winner G3
G8: 1st Group B vs Winner G4

Semi-finals:

G9: Winner G5 vs Winner G6
G10: Winner G7 vs Winner G8

Final:

1st place:
G11: Winner G9 vs Winner G10

3rd place:
G12: Loser G9 vs Loser G10

Or if I get hosting and there's 33 teams, for 'two hosts and the defending champion' read 'one host and the finalists from CC15'...

Actually one of Ton's puppets withdrew too.


Yea But The Gulf States is taking His Place

Yea But The Gulf States is taking His Place
... And Sarzonia withdrew too.

I have an alternative format for CC16 if 33 teams are in and I'm the host, though it's not ideal:

* 9 byes through the first round (Kaze Progressa and the eight quarter-finalists from CC15)
* The remaining 24 teams are divided into six groups of four with the top two progressing
* The nine teams with byes are added to the 12 qualifiers from the first round and these 21 teams are divided into seven groups of three
* The winner of each group and the runner-up with the best record go through to the knockout stages

CLE 33-team bid

>six groups of five
>hosts plus CC15 winner bye
>twelve top two teams + best third placed team qualify
>knockout from 16 teams

After a great deal of back-and-forth, and votes for all candidates, we can announce that the next Cherry Cup host will be:

Kaze Progressa

Congratulations, and thanks to all for the bids. Thanks also to past hosts for their votes!

As I understand it, the teams entering the 16th Cherry Cup are as follows:

Corneliu
Starblaydia
Milchama
Oliverry
New Rynn
Hockey Canada
Lovisa
Vilita
Clavis
New Montreal States
Tonissia
Casari
Squornshelous
Druida
Chicanada
Fmjphoenix
Harlesburg
Bettia
Jon Parkin
Liverpool England
Bipedal Apes
East Lithuania
Iansisle
Daistallia 2014
Kaze Progressa
Spruitland
Formal Dances
The Mushroom Kingship
Kalaallit Nunaat
Genghis-Khanistan
Adrasuvare
Poppuli
The Gulf States

If anyone is able to correct this list, plese post here and/or TG me. Otherwise I will assume this is the correct list.

Is there and RP/Scores/Roster/Everything Else Thread yet?

Not as yet, but I'm now going to assume that list is correct and act accordingly.

Indeed, it is here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9572890#post9572890)