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The Cardboard Avenger is Dead

Wazzu
31-07-2005, 22:56
[[EDIT: This thread was origionally posted in the Gameplay area, an area specifically devoted (by sticky) to semi-OOC threads in NS just like this one. But for some reason, a mod decided to move it here, to a pretty much pure IC area. So, for everyone's reference, this entire thread is OOC.]]


I like to think I've worked up somewhat of a reputation here on NS for being realistic. Recently, that realism has come back to smack me in the face, and I have questioned it's value.

Earlier today, I found myself embroiled in a debate on IRC over the finepoints of "gravitech" and it's realsim (I know, geeky, isn't it?). The debate was soon ended rather expertly by a watchful op, all the better for the other poor blokes in the channel a couple of us were annoying. But one of my opponents soon messaged me to continue the debate in private.

I will not betray Ctan's trust in what was said in that private conversation except to admit that while I still disagree with many of his points, he did still enlighten me to another. Whether fortionate or unfortionate, there are a number of respected players in NS who willingly (and in good humor) "wank" to a certain point, and not accept anything beyond.

This is not a bad thing. Many are good RPers and good writers, and I would hate to accept such a policy that would not let me interact with them.

I have tried on past occassion to restrain myself, to not pile real world science on people and just accept them for what they present, and I have had some success for periods of time. Now, I will try to make that change permanent.

In the past few months, I have been moving my nation towards a change to include people picked up from other nations as they have fallen into decay. Some of these players had technologies and characters that were simply pure fantasy. I hope to use this to force myself to be more accepting.

Though I will continue to try and base much of my stuff off physics, I have found myself trusting in a RP philosophy that I have often thought of. Relative gaming.

I guess you could call it "wank" for "wank".

I stand by my principles that all the fantastic technology, magic, and similar are to make an environment to tell a story, but hopefully with a more enlightened outlook I won't step on the toes of quite so many players (prominant and nearly invisible alike!).

It pains me to say the Cardboard Avenger is dead, but it looks like I can no longer carry that torch.

Good gaming all.
Santa Barbara
01-08-2005, 01:10
*wanks*
The Most Glorious Hack
01-08-2005, 02:23
At times, the Cardboard Avenger was a good thing. The problem was when it became a blend of dogma.

When people are fielding insane ships and claiming to be "realistic", it's good to knock them around and put them in their place. I remember at times when I'd point you towards such threads, just to watch the fur fly.

If someone admits they're wanking (or, in Ctan's case, reveling in it), then there's no need for the Avenger as they know it's wanky.
The Velkyan Union
01-08-2005, 06:06
Do you have to use the word wank tho?
Cogitation
04-08-2005, 20:01
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Sakkra
04-08-2005, 20:22
OOC: Good to have you about, Wazzu. Maybe with this new outlook, we can resume the relations we once had? I thought those were good times, and after all, it was 'you' originally who got my people up into space with that first set of shuttles, right?
So that can only mean that .....



EVERYONE CAN BLAME YOU FOR SPACE LIZARDS!

Mwah ha ha!
Eniqcir
05-08-2005, 23:37
NOOOOOooooooo!

See Hack's message. The Cardboard Avenger should not die, he should just go into semi-retirement and jump out every time someone is deliberately misleading about the plausibility of their RP devices (which I mean in both the literal and literary senses)!
Wazzu
07-08-2005, 07:55
Well, I am planning on "unifying" my nation...in a strange, anarchic kinda way. Part of that includes the use of aliens and unbelievable technologies. Moreover, even the humans in my nation are starting to use such things.

It'd be a double standard if I brought out the Cardboard Avenger again. I'm afraid NS is going to have to find another alternative.
Adejaani
07-08-2005, 11:12
I almost fell out of my chair when I read this. The Cardboard Avenger is like... An NS Institution. The grand old days, when just the mere mention brings about the dry wit, the poignancy and... It's the bloody felgercarbing Cardboard Avenger!

It's like yet another of the Founding Greats and Legends of NS disappears into the mists of time. :(
Texan Hotrodders
07-08-2005, 11:46
I almost fell out of my chair when I read this. The Cardboard Avenger is like... An NS Institution. The grand old days, when just the mere mention brings about the dry wit, the poignancy and... It's the bloody felgercarbing Cardboard Avenger!

It's like yet another of the Founding Greats and Legends of NS disappears into the mists of time. :(

That's okay. Y'all still have me. :D

Oh, right, not the same. Sorry. ;)

And on a serious note, I agree with what Hack said too. Damn, that's twice in one night. :eek: :cool:
Santa Barbara
07-08-2005, 17:55
The Cardboard Avenger will never die. He lives here! *thumps chest* He lives here! *thumps your chest* He lives in the heart of every true ... ah, every true... ah... OK, so he's dead. Whatever.
Zatarack
07-08-2005, 17:59
Never heard of you. But that's not a surprise.