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Imperial Capital Tarneit, Elsburytonia.

Emperor Andrew the first has taken decisive action against 14 convicted pedophiles currently held in the Great Eastern Desert Prison Complex.

The 14 have been declared by a number of psychologists as “unretrievable” from their current state of mind and unfit for reintegration into the community.

“These people have committed the most heinous crime in our society,” His Excellency began.

“They have preyed on the innocent and show no remorse for the damage they have done.”

“To say I have pleasure in signing these people’s death warrants would be akin to the sick state of mind these individuals display.”

“In signing each order for death I dutifully protect the children of Elsburytonia from the evil these people commit,” concluded our most high ruler.

As is customary the 14 will be hung at dawn until they are dead, on the first day of next month.

The condemned have been denied all avenues for appeal.

State Police continue the hunt for individuals committing sex crimes against children who the Imperial Council have branded 'animals'.

Our glorious Emperor has today declared that such people have no place in our society and that their crimes will invoke the wrath of Elsburytonia.

ENDS

The Commonwealth of Chimaea, while respecting Elsburytonia's sovereign right to domestic justice, must condemn the blocking of any avenues of appeal for the convicted. We feel that when facing such a severe punishment, these alleged offenders must be given the right to appeal their cases to as far as they are able. A miscarriage of justice is a stain on a nation's reputation.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry

The Worldwide Empire supports the decision of the Empire of Elsburytonia and gladly places itsself behind the leaders of that great nation in their decision to rid the world of these incurable animals.

~Spokesman for the Delegation of the Worldwide Empire

"WOO! BAIT!"

~ ENS Journalist. In private, of course.

The Hockey Canadian government would like to televise the execution of these criminals as an example to show them what will happen if this crime or anything related is committed.

The Kingdom of Elrich respects The Empire of Elsburytonia's decision but does not agree. What these people have done is evil, and should not be tolerated, but for the paedophiles involved, death is almost a lucky escape. Surely for the good of the country the perpatrators should be made to give something back to the country they betrayed and to their innocent victims? A Corpse is of no help to a nation, in fact it is a burden to dispose of. Would it not be better to make the Paedophiles attempt to repay their debt to society and to their victims for the rest of their lives?? They should be forced to hard, relentlous labour until their, and any profit gained from the minerals they recover should be given to their past victims.

Or, if you still wish to continue with execution surely a return to the much more interesting, public and enjoyable return to the days of the Roman Colleseum would be much more purposeful than hanging??

Although death is always a tempting option, I cannot agree more with Sir Elrich's words there, for there are worst fates than death, especially for criminals who act at a such heartless level, who do not deserve to just simply stop living as an easy way out, they certainly do not deserve the honour of being shot.

Nova Speculum Ambassador's Report

King Liam I of the Kingdom of Nova Speculum gives his wholehearted support to the decision made by Emperor Andrew, but implores him to find a more painful way for these vile animals to be executed. He also urges that they are given the opportunity to appeal before their execution.

His personal recommendation is that they are hng until almost choked, then drawn and quartered.

The Commonwealth of Chimaea must protest these barbaric suggestions. To impose cruel and unusual punishment based simply on the nature of the crime committed would not be justice. We do not support execution, but if it should be done, then it should be done in a humane manner--thus the state does not fall to the same league as those being executed.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry

OOC: I myself prefer having Grunts beat them to critical condition with sticks, then making them serve hard labor for the rest of their lives, I agree with these actions.

IC:

~ CEO Zezeb


OOC2: I am CEO Zezeb (not my real name) in-character, so he says my OOC stuff sometimes.

"The Kingdom of De Alexandre, albeit recently formed, has officially anounced its support to the Elsburytonian decision of placing the convicted pedophiles." commented the KWNRA (Kingdom-Wide News Report Agency) on the late news.
"It has triggered flamed debates in the ranks of the King and his Conselours as to if the hanging method should be adopted or to continue with the customary disembowling."

Don't waste your bullets or rope on these people, send them to me.
I will assure you that they will endure long and painful hardships which will far outstrip that of their victims.
Elvi

Official statement from the President of the Republic of Ashlavar:

We applaud your decision to have those vile beasts killed. The people of Ashlavar are a free, hardworking people who defend their rights, as well as the rights of others harshly.... The children will be haunted for the rest of their lives because of those vile beings... While our governments may clash on how to govern our people for the most part, I shall use this policy as an example for legislation I wish to send through our congress.

The following is rated X and not permissible to children








Castrate them! If they want to stick themselves into children they should have it removed for their crime. They should then be forced through extreme labour and their earnings be paid to the victim's families. Make them suffer for what they did.

As Undisputed leader of the Disputed Territories of Milford Neath, Colonel Sir Peter Jenkins wishes to congratulate Emperor Andrew of the great country of Elsburytonia for showing no mercy to these despicable creatures. He adds that he stands behind this decision in the hope that such heinous crimes will not appear in his recently formed country, or any other country.

~Spokesman for Colonel Sir Jenkins Of Milford Neath

New Sydney Parliament House, Governor's Office

Lady Bryce stretched out her legs underneath her desk and leaned back in her chair, glaring at various representatives that sat before her.

"Exactly what is it," she asked with barely restrained impatience, "Are you objecting to?"

The middle-aged woman with iron-grey hair and steely eyes leaned forwards in her seat, and Lady Bryce felt like calling security. "I represent Mothers Against Abuse, Governor, and I am frankly disgusted at your comments in Parliament, and your government's response to Elsburytonia. You seem to think that because you hold the highest position in our land, you can ignore the plight of children suffering the most depraved acts and crimes by these... these monsters..."

The Justice Minister, sitting on her left, raised an eyebrow and retorted mildly, "Wasn't it Lady Bryce's social justice programs and concentration on child abuse issues that largely fund your organisation? Don't you think that children's welfare is at the top of her priorities?"

The representative shook her head. "We are very grateful, of course, but we think Chimaea should be adopting a more hardline approach--"

Lady Bryce rolled her eyes and cut in. "We do not go in for torture and capital punishment in Chimaea, ma'am. I'm also aware that we have such a thing called the justice system, where people are fairly tried and sentenced by a jury of their peers. That includes a system of appeals where the accused can appeal to the highest court, without intervention from the government, against what they're accused of--especially in serious cases. In Elsburytonia, this right has been denied by the monarch, which raises the grim possibility that an innocent person, accused of one of the worst crimes imaginable, is to be executed without recourse to any justice. I really don't see what your problem is."

The man from the Christian Collective, which was, as far as Lady Bryce knew, a far-right bunch of lunatics, bunched his fists agitatedly before speaking in a thin, reedy and high-pitched voice. "All accused of such crimes against God must die! They must die!"

The other representatives unconsciously shifted away from him. Lady Bryce decided diplomacy was the best way to handle this outburst. "Shut up." she replied.

"But--"

"Shut up."

"I thought--"

"Shut up."

The man lapsed into silence. Lady Bryce glared at the assembled representatives again and shook her head. "I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen. The government is not budging from our position at the current time. It may be an unpopular one, granted, but I feel it is the right one. Thank you."

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The Commonwealth wishes to point out to the international community, once more, that justice has not been done in regards to the convicted. Their right of appeal against a decision has been denied to them, thereby curtailing their freedoms and creating an unfortunate precedent with which the ideal of independance of the courts and the separation of powers is further corrupted. Added to this is that fact that at least one of these convicted is innocent of their alleged crimes and as such, a death sentence would result in a gross miscarriage of justice. We strongly appeal to Emperor Andrew that justice and due process is observed before carrying out such an irrevocable sentence.

~Statement from Lady Bryce, Governor of Chimaea

The children could not "Appeal" against the decision of the pedophiles of abusing them.

I think I've sent my point across.

OOC: Are you talking in character? I'll assume so.

IC:

It's true that the abused children did not have a choice. However, we are not paedophiles. So we should give the accused due rights under law before sentencing them.

I think I've sent my point across.

President Fulda of the Republic of Ashlavar peered at Lady Bryce's comments in the newspaper while eating his breakfast.

"She does have a BIT of a point.... They do deserve appeals.... But I feel it should be at their expense, just as it is in our nation." He stated eating his bagel.

"Yes, but at the same time, Mr. President, the public of our nation is very pleased with the emperor of Elsburytonia's decision." Said his Secretary of State as he began to eat some eggs.

"Don't get me wrong, Howard, I applaud the sentence and i would expect nothing less in our own nation. However, Lady Bryce makes a good point about the appeals at the very least. But, as I also said, the appeals should be strictly at THEIR expense.... The people shouldn't be burdened with taxes for such vile beasts." President Fulda stated as he removed his glasses and looked up from the paper.

"Prehaps you're right, Mr. President, I'm sure the people would whole heartedly agree... I doubt the Emperor of Elsburytonia's mind would be changed easily through appeals.... So even if they were rich, they'd just throw their money into the judicial trash can." Said the Secretary of State as he got up.

"I'll go make a press statement again after I finish eating." Mumbled President Fulda eating up the last of his breakfast.

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Offical statement from the office of the President of the Republic of Ashlavar:

Lady Bryce, of the Commonwealth of Chimaea has risen one good point in the recent decision to hang 14 child molestors in Elsburytonia. We feel the sentence is VERY justified, however, the government of Ashlavar feels that appeals should be given at the full expense of the guilty.

PAH!
You sit there making the noises Chimaea and this Lady Bryce pretends to have children's interests at heart, yet she whinges when justice is done and Ashlavar whimpers along like some pet dog.

Elsburytonia, I say again, bring these 14 to me and I will deal with them. Hanging or shooting is far too good for them.
Elvi

What do I have to say about the criticism from Odins Forgiven? It takes more strength to defend your beliefs and ideals thank it does to kill all opposition and eradicate the things that question them.

Perhaps Elvi would like to tour Chimaea and wittness our justice system first hand, before jumping to conclusions?

~Lady Bryce, in answer posed at a Press Meeting

*Lady Bryce returns to her offices after the press conference. As she sits at her desk she notices a parchment, old and dry it looks as though the faded writing had been written many years ago. Curious she picks it up and reads.*

My dear Lady Bryce,
I am known by many names, but you may call me Elvi.
Perhaps it is you who should visit my home?
Under my protection, I will lead you to Gjallarbridge, cross the river Slidr then guide you through the Helgrind on the other side and into my home, Helheim.
There I will show you how I would deal with those who choose the path of evilness and how we deal with their victims also.
Elvi

OOC: Ok, never RP my characters without consulting me :) It's just bad etiquette. But I'll play along this time...

IC:

Lady Bryce held out the strange piece of paper, now encased in a protective and transparent material, to the aide with a pair of tongs. The aide stared.

"Did you put this on my desk?"

"Y-yes, Governor, I thought--"

"Firstly, this should have gone through the Foreign Ministry. Secondly, I do not recieve original documents at this desk or in this office. Thirdly, while I'm aware that you think, please follow the rules first. I just had this whole damn place decontaminated just in case, even though they couldn't detect anything, because had there been anything on this paper which was dangerous, then you'd be responsible for killing me."

The aide gave her a stricken look. Lady Bryce softened. "All right, all right, don't worry. But it's not just you as a person when you're Governor, it's you as a leader and a symbol--if I die, so does the Governor of Chimaea. So it's quite embarassing. We'll overlook it this once, just make sure it doesn't happen again, eh?"

"Yes, Governor. Sorry, Governor." The aide took the tongs and the paper and backed out.

Lady Bryce shook her head, then began to write a reply to the oddly-worded letter.

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Elvi,

Please do not refer to me as 'my dear', I have attached the formal forms of address, within Chimaea and internationally. Feel free to reciprocate. However, 'Lady Bryce' will do.

As nice as your nations sounds, as Governor I cannot consent to such a dangerous undertaking. A formal meeting of the heads of state is possible, naturally, but I remind you to go through the proper channels first. As the leader of a nation, I'm sure you appreciate that I have to prioritise my time, and your attitude has been most insulting in the past. Perhaps you should update your diplomatic techniques in line with international standards?

As it stands, I have ample evidence from your previous statements on how you treat alleged offenders in your nation and have no wish to wittness it first hand.

~Lady Bryce, Governor of Chimaea

(OOC: Perhaps you shouldn't have had me at a press conference then, nor decide the reason why the parchment was on your desk?)

*Another piece of parchment, in the same condition appears upon her desk.*

My dear Govenor Bryce,
I have no need for what you call diplomacy, especially in the way you seem to practice it.
You base your supositions upon a few spoken words and believe you know me?
And you, my dear, may address me by my true name.
Hel

Sandra Jameson, Ambassador of the People's Democratic Social Republic of Ariddia, while recognising the sovereign right of Elsburytonia to maintain and carry out its own judicial system, strongly urges the Elsburytonian government not to deny the accused the right to appeal. Should any of the accused be innocent, the stain of a wrongful execution will never be washed from the conscience of the Elsburytonian people and leaders.

The government of Pirna would like to extend it's thanks to Elsburytonia for taking action against these disgusting criminals. Although the right to appeal is an important one, in some cases the risk of reoffending if released far outweighs the negatives of not allowing an appeal. Some evils in this world need to be treated swiftly and harshly, as you are doing.

- Her Majesty Ilse Huber, Queen of Pirna

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T=Arial Black]official statement from the prime minister of thekalu[/FONT]
we,The United Socialist States of Thekalu,do wholeheartedly support your decision to execute these animals but may I suggest that you wait five years before executing them and thus filling that time with extreme 24 hour physical labor :sniper:

The recently formed Most Serene Republic of El Gato Gordo has felt compelled to offer our admiration to the great nation of Elsburytonia for their actions. We ourselves have a strict public execution policy in regards to all offences that our gracious leader Mr Hughes deems to be in breach of his moral and judicial beliefs. Mr Hughes will often carry out said executions personally, on live television broadcast into every home. He feels that this is a suitable example to deter future occurences. We would however offer one suggestion...perhaps a very public caneing or flogging till death would serve your deterence initiative better. Surely too be used in such a way as to prevent the same crimes happening again is the best form of payback or punishment. Make it hurt and make it hurt and make it hurt some more if it gets the message accross.

We thank you for your time

(OOC: Perhaps you shouldn't have had me at a press conference then, nor decide the reason why the parchment was on your desk?)

OOC: You weren't at a Chimaean press conference. Your message would be an open reply to my earlier input, which means the press would know about it and ask about it. As usually happens in NS. Hense Lady Bryce would be replying to a reporter who'd ask her about it. The reason I decided the way that the parchment ends up on my character's desk is to make it realistic. Trust me, nothing can get through to the Governor's desk like that, with certain exceptions. This is silly, and I'm going to ignore your bits of paper getting through the highest security of Baron and Chimaea to materialise on her desk.

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My dear Govenor Bryce,
I have no need for what you call diplomacy, especially in the way you seem to practice it.
You base your supositions upon a few spoken words and believe you know me?
And you, my dear, may address me by my true name.
Hel

Elvi/Hel,

To quote your response to our criticism of Elsburytonia:

"PAH!
You sit there making the noises Chimaea and this Lady Bryce pretends to have children's interests at heart, yet she whinges when justice is done and Ashlavar whimpers along like some pet dog."

Now, not only have you judged me on "a few words spoken", but your diplomacy leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps you misunderstand the nature of diplomacy, which is most communication with words. We do not pretend to know you extensively, just that you're clearly prepared to ignore the accused persons' right of appeal as well as making it clear that in your hands "they will endure long and painful hardships which will far outstrip that of their victims". I think this makes it more than clear as to the nature of your intentions.

~Lady Bryce, Governor of Chimaea

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The Imperium offers its condolences to the victims of these monsters who prey on society's youngest. Society cannot suffer these sick individuals to live. Hang them, hang them all.

"I would like to point out that Christianity's own 'virgin' Mary was only twelve years old when she supposedly gave birth to Jesus. The prophet Mohammed took a six year old as a wife. In the ancient empires of Greece and Rome, sexual relations with adolescents was not only normal, but expected."

"Therefore, I ask that you look back at your own orgins before condemning these people. In a world where there are real monsters to deal with that make pedophiles look like nuns, you are greatly overreacting. As such, I would like to grant the fourteen condemned men asylum in Bryn Shander."

--King Damien Nightbane of Shar, King of Bryn Shander

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"Swords to Plowshares"


Official Statement from the Imperial State of Sirens of Titan

'We find the acts of killing pedophiles intolerable. Though these people might be considered as sick, deluded individuals, we see them as patients who need medical, psychological attention in a mental ward. Executing them is too blunt in our opinion, and we urge you to rethink about your ways. While we have hardly any military influence or diplomatic pressure, we ask you not to rush for the most common option: killing. Though pedophiles are indeed sick, they have not became a pedophile because they wanted to.

Think about it.'

Lord Withsimmon, Official State Department for International Affairs.

OOC: I have to admit, you guys have some interesting opinions. Titan: What is that, psychological positivism?

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Although girls have been married and considered adult at a young age in ancient history, this cannot be tolerated in modern times. We now know the effect of sexual assaults upon children, we know about post traumatic stress disorder and so forth. It is a matter of medical fact that children can die from the shock of a sexual assault.

Added to the fact that back then, 30 was considered old age... No, such crimes should not be tolerated. And Chimaea opposes any act to grant these alleged criminals asylum.

While we oppose the death penalty on principle, we respect the right of a sovereign nation to shape its laws and punishments--however, denying them the rights under law is a gross miscarriage of justice.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry statement

OOC: I have to admit, you guys have some interesting opinions. Titan: What is that, psychological positivism?OOC: Well instead of the normal approval of killing or condemnit in light of civil freedoms, looking how they became so insane is a choice rarely seen. And my opinion is the most politcal correct one.

Official statement from the office of the President of the Republic of Ashlavar:

This will be the final statement that my administration and I will make on this matter. The Republic of Ashlavar has been and always shall be an isolationist nation.... Not only is this standard policy among all our political parties, it is bluntly defined in our constitution, for awhile, I admit, I lost sight of that.

I would like to clarify something, who will pay to give these animals mental aid? That's right, the taxpayer. The taxpayer should not be responsible for helping demented animals get "better." Everyone has some degree of knowledge of right and wrong, these "people" knew what they were doing from the start. We believe that these beasts should sit on death row and should be given all the appeals they wish, COMPLETELY at their expense... The moment they run out of money is the moment they are executed. No law abiding citizen should be burdened by taxes to give these vile beasts appeals.

Regards to all,

President Fulda

This is clearly a form of capital punishment. These people have commited most haneous crimes however couldn't they be put to use to help society as a whole. Force them into well regulated government labor, then take all of there earnings and previous possessions and give them to the families who were the victims. Although their deaths may help to bring closure they could still be used almost as slaves for waht they have done. Eventually through this work they will mostly likely perish. The nation of Quangdorf all believe that capital punishment is wrong, but extremely hard larbor i.e. a very intense form of community service could cleanse the minds of the pedophiles, and even help the community.

Imperial News Network:

Children of Elsburytonia Safer Today.

At 06:25 this morning Elsburytonia Standard Time, 14 pedophiles were put to death.

As their lifeless bodies swing freely in the noose the Justice Minister had this to say.

"As citizens of this nation we are compelled to protect our future. What has happened on this day is due to the depraved actions of the induviduals who chose for what ever reason to risk the future of Elsburytonia."

"We will continue to hunt pedophiles within our society and they will be duly punished. We will also be working with international police agencies to ensure that not only Elsburytonian children are saved from the vile actions of pedophiles."

"Our cause is right, our actions are justified and our nation will only become stronger with the menace of pedophillia removed, thank you."

Shortly following these words special police units raided the homes of several people in connection with a graphic website. The people arrested include a school principal, a welfare worker and a swimming coach.

We will keep you up to date with developments in this new case as they develop.

*ENDS*

We are saddened that such a gross miscarriage of justice has been allowed to happen with seemingly no opposition from Elsburytonia's domestic justice system. Even if one of those executed today was innocent, then the entire Elsburytonian justice system is a mockery of its purpose.

We must also ask what the purpose was of preventing appeals--often, this is a result of political manoevering. Perhaps one of the fourteen was truly innocent but angered the wrong official?

Of course, now we may never know. It is doubtful that even an inquiry, which the leader of Elsburytonia is unlikely to hold, would uncover evidence from any possible high sources in such a corrupt regime.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry

The Commonwealth of Chimaea, while respecting Elsburytonia's sovereign right to domestic justice, must condemn the blocking of any avenues of appeal for the convicted. We feel that when facing such a severe punishment, these alleged offenders must be given the right to appeal their cases to as far as they are able. A miscarriage of justice is a stain on a nation's reputation.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry


Bull for those who commit a crime... Not one mention of the children these 'animals' abused and lives ruined by them.. The only miscarriage of justice is that we can't do a test at birth and find some marker to detect them and thus remove them for day one from society. Instead we must wait unti they attack and can be caught..

If any country had need of strong rope to carry out such removal of these 'animals' Zeldon will suppy it without any charge just to know these 'animals' are removed swiftly from socialty and can't prey on our most valued children...

Zeldon Department of Justice..

OOC: Hey we are slow getting news here so if behind forgive me but got to this and had to put foot in mouth on it.... keep the presses rolling..

From the Office of the Rgt. Hon. John S. Ferland, Commissioner of Government of Foxweather:
To: The Government of Elsburytonia

We, the government of Foxweather, support your actions against these pedophiles, and feel that the need for examples to be made in all cases of lude, disgusting, and lascivious acts, such as rape and pedophilia on minors. We are, however, greatly distressed by your nations lack of due process, and the denial of these condemned to any kind of appeal. We implore your great nation to please grant these inmates a chance to appeal their case before a high court of independent arbitrators.

What these people have done is evil, and should not be tolerated, but for the paedophiles involved, death is almost a lucky escape. Surely for the good of the country the perpatrators should be made to give something back to the country they betrayed and to their innocent victims? A Corpse is of no help to a nation, in fact it is a burden to dispose of. Would it not be better to make the Paedophiles attempt to repay their debt to society and to their victims for the rest of their lives?? They should be forced to hard, relentlous labour until their, and any profit gained from the minerals they recover should be given to their past victims.


Again concern more for the person who did the crime than those victums of the crime.. We hang here and the family thus have the abilty to claim and deal with the remains. No family then we feed the remains to the many sharks around our island as they don't care so much about what they are given to eat or how it came to be given to them.. As for putting them to work; at what... each placement you put them in you take away a job for somebody who might want to do it. Then we go with the repeal process, where is the repeal rights for a victum.. Knowing that this person is for whatever time comfined but has medical care, shelter, food, and is probably taking up a job that somebody else deserves more than them.. Sure we may have large funded prison systems but it would be more productive and less costly to just hang them..

A hanging here cost just under 5000 while to keep a person in prison runs around 12000 then figure hanging is a one time cost while ten years in prison means 120000 spent on them where only 5000 would be if they were hung.

Zeldon Department of Justice..

We must also ask what the purpose was of preventing appeals--often, this is a result of political manoevering. Perhaps one of the fourteen was truly innocent but angered the wrong official?

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry

Now is the Minister from Chimaea blaming this all on some political offical who had something against even one of these fourteen. If they were given a trail and the system found them guilty then hang them and be done with it. Move on to helping the victums and preventing these crimes from taking place again to others. Even if it is a bad politician; as they to can be fitted with ropes when they break laws and lose the trust of the people they serve and possibly protect.. So here you bring up another governental system problem.. Bad Crooks... oops Politicians.. we are here talking of other creatures even lower then them...

Zeldon Department of Justice..

Firstly, it's a theory which seems to fit the facts. They were given a trial, certainly--but many times a trial's verdict is overturned upon appeal, convicted 'offenders' are found innocent, investigations are re-opened. The plain fact is that of the fourteen men hanged as paedophiles, one or more of them could have been innocent of the charge. Which means the execution would have simply been state-sanctioned murder.

The first trial found them guilty, but they were denied the right of appeal. Which means there was a chance, however slim or otherwise, that a miscarriage of justice occured. That stain is forever on the Elsburytonian conscience.

Secondly, the issue here is simply about the alleged offenders, not the victims of their crimes. We hope, of course, that the victims are given the support and therapy needed to heal and move on, under whichever suitable program Elsburytonia has to cater for these situations. This does not, in the circumstances, have anything to do with the matter of law and rights which is under scrutiny.

~Chimaean Foreign Ministry

In the past our laws were lax on those found guilty of many crimes and thus we ended up with a prison system that demanded more funds than the welfare system that might give ease to victoms of those in prison. Also lawyers were forever placing trivial burdens on the courts for minor quesitons of principal that might take ages to decide..

Meanwhile we had prisoners getting hearts and liver because they could not be killed in poor health... Meanwhile honest citizens were waiting and dying for these organs because the system would not fund them getting them so they didn't.. We changed the system so that honest citizens get their just rewards and criminals do not become a burden on them..

I remind that 120000 saved by killing a person once goes to provide a lot of help for those honest citizens who might need help.. So 5000 is a minor cost to put 115000 toward our honest citizens.. quality of life.... and rid them of 'animals' that have proven to disturb it beyond common peace...

We do have a demanding legal system, that works.. for the victums not the criminals..

Zeldon Department of Justice..

It is, as it should be.
The guilty have been punished and now those who have survived can live without the fear that one day their abusers will return.

If any of them be of Norse decent, then I am sure that Hel will deal with them in the after life as they should have been dealt with here.

Offical statement from the office of the President of the Republic of Ashlavar:

While we were pro giving the accused appeals (at their expense) we accept the fact that this is not our justice system, this is not our business, and what's done is done. Quite frankly, my administration and I think that we should all drop this issue as I'm sure all of our own nations have problems that need solving.. We can preach what it is like in our nations untill we're blue in the face, does it solve anything in the end? No. In Ashlavar, we run our courts very carefully, we only give a verdict after extensive DNA research and a jury is convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused did the crime. If the accused is found guilty, we allow them to have as many appeals as they want, at their (or a loved one/friend's) expense. However, Elsburytonia does not do things that way and that is their business, not ours.... Mettling in the affiars of other nations only mounts hostilities.... Part of the reason why our founding fathers made it unconstitutional to get involved with intangling alliances or groups such as the United Nations... So far, this policy has only been benificial.... We have not been in a full scale war since our nation's founding and our economy is flourishing.... That is why we feel that globalization is a complete lie and that all nations should only look into the intrests of their own people instead of forgieners.... Weather or not you take our advice to heart or not is your business..

With respect and goodwill to all,

President Fulda