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Destiny/OOC Thread

Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 22:37
Since the OOCs have been crazy lately and clogging up the thread, I started this ooc thread. We do have a lot to discuss, and probably should move our oocs over here. So here it is:

The Destiny/OOC Thread
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:11
Make sure to read the large print at the bottom! It is very important!



To Noir:
ooc: As long as you don't godmod me into some sort of traitor. My clan and most the dragon clans in the area are very powerful and peaceful beasts that get along well with humans and tend to help them out. There are some evil dragon clans, I would assume, but I was never one of them, and my clan (which I lead) is huge. The area is an area of peaceful, helpful dragons. You can be a nasty, but do not make me into some sort of traitor. I stay who I have been through this RP. In addition, I am larger and a bit more powerful than most dragons... (not godmodding my char. I mentioned it earlier... that she was very ancient, also very powerful as a human, but only as a human fighter.) No one knows where ATG is. The other thread she started has stopped because people are waiting for her, but this one is not a problem... Sorry for the giant occ! I can delete later
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ooc: ATG is in the process of moving and no clue when she will be back.
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Also, please move your oocs over here and post what it's referring to. So we have a clue. ;)
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[SIZE=6]Everyone!:
ooc: I advise that we stop posting until she gets back. There has been some hellish trouble on another of her RPs because of posting when the RP starter, ATG, wasn't there, "hijacking the thread", and making it so that when Amanda comes back she'll have tons of catching up to do. I won't post anymore until she is back. I suggest we all do this. Apparently that is appropriate etiquitte in this situation, which I didn't know until two days ago. So, why don't we wait for Amanda. Going on when the RP starter (Amanda) is gone is considered very bad form. I'm not posting anymore. I suggest all of us stop until she's back.

ooc: I wouldn't be sounding like I'm trying to run things, but you haven't seen what happened in her other RP because we posted while she was gone. I was freaked, and I don't want it to happen again. And the less Amanda has to read when she's back,the better. It is her RP.
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:15
Caladonn:

OOC: OK, then not the most powerful dragon in existence, but an unusually powerful one.

ooc: I also will not post anymore until Amanda gets back for the reasons cited in my previous post
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:22
OOC: I am going to start an ooc thread, since this is getting clogged and there are things to discuss. "Destiny/OOCThread" :D I'm moving all my ooc over there and hopefully everyone else will, if it's relatevnt as I have made some changes because of people's suggestions, so those can be deleted. OK, here we go! UNCLOGGING the thread! I'll get rid of the occ post about this thread in a few days.

Please move your OCCs to the Destiny/OCC Thread. Keep our thread clean! :p
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:33
Theo:

ooc: Regarding post 226. I don't know that, so I'm asking about everyone.
Theao
03-07-2005, 23:40
That was just a reference to where Khevit was, he's still waiting for a dragon to respond by the way.
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:43
ooc: I had a terrible day and killed myself off and decided to leave the forums. After a while I changed my mind, so I was revived. I was shot by a man with a bow and arrow between posts 207 and 208, but we worked it out so that I didn't die. This isn't written in the thread because I deleted my death, but the attempted assassination was worked into the plot. Most of you don't know this!
Hyperslackovicznia
03-07-2005, 23:48
That was just a reference to where Khevit was, he's still waiting for a dragon to respond by the way.

ooc: I won't be doing any responding until Amanda is back. Too much trouble in the other thread.
Theao
03-07-2005, 23:51
Alright, thought she hasn't been on for over 17 days, meaning if she doesnt return in a under 11 days shes 'dead'.
Hyperslackovicznia
04-07-2005, 00:01
Theo:

ooc: She's in the process of moving and it's her thread. Did you read the thread in "Change"? The ooc thread? We're toast for posting!!!! And we were told so in no uncertain terms.

Is someone dead if they don't post for 28 days??

I would love to continue, but I don't want to be booted out of here, as I likely will be in Change. Theo, we're all considered to have hijacked the thread and breached ettiquete. You must not have read the occ thread. It was pretty harsh. That's why I'm concerned about posting here when Amanda isn't around, as much as I would like to.
Hyperslackovicznia
04-07-2005, 00:08
Theo and Caladonn:

occ: Thanks for the appreciation for me coming back from my death. ;)
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 05:54
yay...no more OOC this OOC that!

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Think of it this way...you helped out the wrong humans.

I think I should reword it as: "rebel" instead of "traitor"
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 06:02
ooc: I advise that we stop posting until she gets back. There has been some hellish trouble on another of her RPs because of posting when the RP starter, ATG, wasn't there, "hijacking the thread", and making it so that when Amanda comes back she'll have tons of catching up to do. I won't post anymore until she is back. I suggest we all do this. Apparently that is appropriate etiquitte in this situation, which I didn't know until two days ago. So, why don't we wait for Amanda. Going on when the RP starter (Amanda) is gone is considered very bad form. I'm not posting anymore. I suggest all of us stop until she's back.

ooc: I wouldn't be sounding like I'm trying to run things, but you haven't seen what happened in her other RP because we posted while she was gone. I was freaked, and I don't want it to happen again. And the less Amanda has to read when she's back,the better. It is her RP.


edit this part of your second post and move it to your first post, and increase the font of this post so that it is HUGE
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 07:10
To: Caladonn

I hope I didn't mess anything up, but I felt I needed to put a twist to the story. It became too...Monotonous.

The man's name is Azazel. "Aza" for short since you two were supposed to be familiar (nickname).
Caladonn
04-07-2005, 15:52
To: -Noir-

Well, I appreciate your backstory, and I agree it is a bit monotonous, but really, I would've appreciated if you'd checked a few of your details with me first. Aramil graduated from The Collegiate Arcane in Caladonn, a college of magic where only elves are allowed. Therefore, Azazel being a teacher at that college wouldn't really make sense.

However, I do like the idea of them being familiar, like comrades who parted and have now come back together in conflict. That seems great. Perhaps we could tweak it a bit, such as, Aza was maybe a member of an allied navy, and the two became close friends, or something like that.

For the High Council, you'll have to fill me in on that a bit more. Perhaps an international group of mages, in which Aramil and Azazel were members? That would present an interesting conflict to Aramil, whether to help his old friend and the Council, or a human (now he'll know its a dragon) that he's just met.
Hyperslackovicznia
04-07-2005, 22:26
yay...no more OOC this OOC that!

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Think of it this way...you helped out the wrong humans.

I think I should reword it as: "rebel" instead of "traitor"


I help out good people who haven't harmed anyone or anything. The one that protects the good humans. Not a rebel. And I have a big dragon clan, which I lead, and am well respected in the dragon communtiy. There are also a lot of other "good" dragon clans.

One idea... you could have a situation where the evil dragons want to get rid of me because I am preventing them from committing their evil acts upon humans or anyone else. But I don't want to be a rebel or anything. I want to be highly respected and powerful, one of the good dragons, with no past bad background, and one who helps. Remember I am also human myself. :)
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 23:31
To: -Noir-

Well, I appreciate your backstory, and I agree it is a bit monotonous, but really, I would've appreciated if you'd checked a few of your details with me first. Aramil graduated from The Collegiate Arcane in Caladonn, a college of magic where only elves are allowed. Therefore, Azazel being a teacher at that college wouldn't really make sense.

However, I do like the idea of them being familiar, like comrades who parted and have now come back together in conflict. That seems great. Perhaps we could tweak it a bit, such as, Aza was maybe a member of an allied navy, and the two became close friends, or something like that.

For the High Council, you'll have to fill me in on that a bit more. Perhaps an international group of mages, in which Aramil and Azazel were members? That would present an interesting conflict to Aramil, whether to help his old friend and the Council, or a human (now he'll know its a dragon) that he's just met.


Aww...that stinks.

Think of this Academy as a postgraduate university.

The High Council would be, like you said similar to "an international group of mages" and these mages run the Academy. The High Council would be the Bolded out text in my first few posts. Think of them as an all knowing type of group, non of whom will actually make an appearance.

This Academy is also the Academy Mazer was from. Aza is trying to clear the way for Mazer and his mission, which I still need to formulate (It's a secret anyways and the character doesn't even know. It will probably be about fighting the humans Karasu's dragons help).

Mazer is on this quest he doesn't know anything about, while at the same time on a personal quest to find his purpose in life, his destiny (like what this thread is supposed to be about).

Azazel...We'll just see how he evolves. He's just a supporting character to help Mazer and keep the story move along.
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 23:41
I help out good people who haven't harmed anyone or anything. The one that protects the good humans. Not a rebel. And I have a big dragon clan, which I lead, and am well respected in the dragon communtiy. There are also a lot of other "good" dragon clans.

One idea... you could have a situation where the evil dragons want to get rid of me because I am preventing them from committing their evil acts upon humans or anyone else. But I don't want to be a rebel or anything. I want to be highly respected and powerful, one of the good dragons, with no past bad background, and one who helps. Remember I am also human myself. :)

You are considered a "rebel" by other dragon clans (probably the more war-like and/or evil clans) who allied themselves to those of the High Council, who at ths point is just an "all-seeing" group of wisemen who rule this part of the land where ever this is (since we are all traveling). This group of humans probably want to rule the world (yes, I know..."how cliche" but hey, it's easy to use).

Your "good" dragon clan might have been outcasts since they decided to separate themselves from the rest of the dragons during the war with the humans hundreds of years ago. Now, since then, there have been alliances created between the warring human and dragon factions, over things like territory or resources. They found out that the humans needed the brute strength of the dragons, while dragons needed the magic abilities of the humans.

Your clan probably split because they wanted to be neutral and just help the humans. Then when some dragon clans began allying themselves with humans, you allied yourself with a group of humans that were fighting the group of humans Azazel works for and etc etc etc.
-Noir-
04-07-2005, 23:50
Why don't we prepare what we will do next when ATG gets back, so that we can keep the RP flowing smoothly. We'll put together what we've done and where we are (like a summary), while we discuss what our characters will do when the IC portion continues.
Hyperslackovicznia
04-07-2005, 23:50
You are considered a "rebel" by other dragon clans (probably the more war-like and/or evil clans) who allied themselves to those of the High Council, who at ths point is just an "all-seeing" group of wisemen who rule this part of the land where ever this is (since we are all traveling). This group of humans probably want to rule the world (yes, I know..."how cliche" but hey, it's easy to use).

Your "good" dragon clan might have been outcasts since they decided to separate themselves from the rest of the dragons during the war with the humans hundreds of years ago. Now, since then, there have been alliances created between the warring human and dragon factions, over things like territory or resources. They found out that the humans needed the brute strength of the dragons, while dragons needed the magic abilities of the humans.

Your clan probably split because they wanted to be neutral and just help the humans. Then when some dragon clans began allying themselves with humans, you allied yourself with a group of humans that were fighting the group of humans Azazel works for and etc etc etc.


How about this instead?:

Well, I wanted there to be many dragon clans that are good. An equal amount and I am the leader of my clan and the group of good dragons. Let's make it equal amounts of dragons on each side. We have different beliefs and you want to get rid of us. Since I am the elected leader of all the clans, you guys want me gone. I am very powerful and getting rid of me woud help you in a war with our people a lot.

How about that?
Hyperslackovicznia
04-07-2005, 23:52
Why don't we prepare what we will do next when ATG gets back, so that we can keep the RP flowing smoothly. We'll put together what we've done and where we are (like a summary), while we discuss what our characters will do when the IC portion continues.

I like ad libbing it more. I think it's more fun for all of us if we don't know what's going to happen nest. That's my opinion. ;)
-Noir-
05-07-2005, 00:08
How about this instead?:

Well, I wanted there to be many dragon clans that are good. An equal amount and I am the leader of my clan and the group of good dragons. Let's make it equal amounts of dragons on each side. We have different beliefs and you want to get rid of us. Since I am the elected leader of all the clans, you guys want me gone. I am very powerful and getting rid of me woud help you in a war with our people a lot.

How about that?

Let's just say that you are considered a "rebel" in the eyes of the factions/clans that control a neighboring territory and wanted to be disappeared as quickly as possible since you had been reported to be traveling alone, and therefore an easier target. They then asked a favor from the High Council of this territory you are in, which includes that "Academy" several of our characters are from, to kill you. They needed to ask the High Council because any "troop" movements would be noted and then be scutinized by intelligence from the clan(s) you command. Therefore it is imperative for this "evil" clan to eliminate you when you are off-guard and traveling alone in this supposed "friendly" territory. But now, the things have changed since you have grouped up with these other travelers.

The assasin was hired by Azazel, who works for the High Council. Since the assasin failed to carry out his mission, Azazel was ordered to eliminate all evidence of involvemen. Everything was going smoothly when Azazel came into contact with his old apprentice, Aramil. Aramil had heard too much when Azazel was talking to the High Council through the orb, and now Aramil has the choice to stay and fight or walk away and leave. At the same time, Azazel is at a moral dilema(sp?), will he keep the promise that he made with Aramil's parents or will he break the promise and be forced to fight against Aramil.

Mazer, on the other hand, is traveling to some destination where he was briefed would find out more about his mission, which would have something to do with fighting the dragons and other rival human clans. I don't know the rest since his actual mission is not as important as his personal quest to find out what his destiny and purpose is. In addition to interacting with ATG's character, Ru, and finding out how he knows her. (But at this point, the story is at a stand still and practically a day behind what is going on in this "dragon-human" part of the RP. I am waiting for ATG to get back into the RP).

Phew...How about that?
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 02:42
Let's just say that you are considered a "rebel" in the eyes of the factions/clans that control a neighboring territory and wanted to be disappeared as quickly as possible since you had been reported to be traveling alone, and therefore an easier target. They then asked a favor from the High Council of this territory you are in, which includes that "Academy" several of our characters are from, to kill you. They needed to ask the High Council because any "troop" movements would be noted and then be scutinized by intelligence from the clan(s) you command. Therefore it is imperative for this "evil" clan to eliminate you when you are off-guard and traveling alone in this supposed "friendly" territory. But now, the things have changed since you have grouped up with these other travelers.

The assasin was hired by Azazel, who works for the High Council. Since the assasin failed to carry out his mission, Azazel was ordered to eliminate all evidence of involvemen. Everything was going smoothly when Azazel came into contact with his old apprentice, Aramil. Aramil had heard too much when Azazel was talking to the High Council through the orb, and now Aramil has the choice to stay and fight or walk away and leave. At the same time, Azazel is at a moral dilema(sp?), will he keep the promise that he made with Aramil's parents or will he break the promise and be forced to fight against Aramil.

Mazer, on the other hand, is traveling to some destination where he was briefed would find out more about his mission, which would have something to do with fighting the dragons and other rival human clans. I don't know the rest since his actual mission is not as important as his personal quest to find out what his destiny and purpose is. In addition to interacting with ATG's character, Ru, and finding out how he knows her. (But at this point, the story is at a stand still and practically a day behind what is going on in this "dragon-human" part of the RP. I am waiting for ATG to get back into the RP).

Phew...How about that?

NO... :( I lost a huge long explanation, and it got lost... I'm really mad. So my VERY long answer is gone. I'll write it over later, but nothing in what you said fits my village, people, or me. NO ONE knows I am the black dragon. Damn I have a LOT to rewrite. :headbang: My answer was longer than your post. *sigh. I have serious double vision and can't explain now, but everything you stated doesn't fit me, my people, my clan, our clan friends, the High Council, the place we live, the way we live, etc. The part where the assassin shot me should never hae happened because NO ONE knows Karasu is the black dragon, and that was stated from the beginning.

Damn I'm pissed. I'll post my explanation later, but none of it at all will fit. *sigh Sorry, but I have an idea... maybe...
-Noir-
05-07-2005, 03:38
NO... :( I lost a huge long explanation, and it got lost... I'm really mad. So my VERY long answer is gone. I'll write it over later, but nothing in what you said fits my village, people, or me. NO ONE knows I am the black dragon. Damn I have a LOT to rewrite. :headbang: My answer was longer than your post. *sigh. I have serious double vision and can't explain now, but everything you stated doesn't fit me, my people, my clan, our clan friends, the High Council, the place we live, the way we live, etc. The part where the assassin shot me should never hae happened because NO ONE knows Karasu is the black dragon, and that was stated from the beginning.

Damn I'm pissed. I'll post my explanation later, but none of it at all will fit. *sigh Sorry, but I have an idea... maybe...

can we just talk over AIM? or some other form of instant messenger?

sorry Sorry SORRY, for the trouble!!! :( :( OUCH!

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Does being the "Black Dragon" have any meaning? Or unique perks or anything? I could always post that we know you are "a" dragon, but do not know that you are the "black" dragon. So, therefore, no one knows that you are a "black" dragon.

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Well...What I stated was very general. Very broad, and can be changed very easily, except for some character specifics on Mazer's and probably Azazel's part. You could always think of that neighboring clan as an outside entity that you, yourself, do not control. Your past does not need to have any bearing on the fact that this outside clan harbors extreme hate against you. They could just simply...Hate you, and therefore (irrationally) justify their desire to attack you. Your clan might have been in existence long before you were born or the ancestors of course existed and could have fought a war that could have been generations before your character was born, and that could have provided the basis for the hatred of a neighboring clan. (This could become an even longer side story.) SO, from the time of the war and your birth, we could say that the clan you inherit could have done things that might not fully align with your policy of "good" dragons. Probably you were not traveling, but instead live in this land, and your rivals lived in ANOTHER land. In the end, non of the descriptions might fit you or your people in general, but it might have fit your ancestors and your ancestors' people many years before you. So in it is possible to safely say that this hatred could have come from years long rivalries that existed well before your time. Now after many years, the rival clan, which you do not need to know existed or still has these feelings of hatred against your clan in general (not just you), deemed that your excursion by yourself or your inattention because of your visitors (distraction) would be the opportune time to attack you.

(I am hungry, going downstairs to eat)
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 06:44
Let's just say that you are considered a "rebel" in the eyes of the factions/clans that control a neighboring territory and wanted to be disappeared as quickly as possible since you had been reported to be traveling alone, and therefore an easier target. They then asked a favor from the High Council of this territory you are in, which includes that "Academy" several of our characters are from, to kill you. They needed to ask the High Council because any "troop" movements would be noted and then be scutinized by intelligence from the clan(s) you command. Therefore it is imperative for this "evil" clan to eliminate you when you are off-guard and traveling alone in this supposed "friendly" territory. But now, the things have changed since you have grouped up with these other travelers.

The assasin was hired by Azazel, who works for the High Council. Since the assasin failed to carry out his mission, Azazel was ordered to eliminate all evidence of involvemen. Everything was going smoothly when Azazel came into contact with his old apprentice, Aramil. Aramil had heard too much when Azazel was talking to the High Council through the orb, and now Aramil has the choice to stay and fight or walk away and leave. At the same time, Azazel is at a moral dilema(sp?), will he keep the promise that he made with Aramil's parents or will he break the promise and be forced to fight against Aramil.

Mazer, on the other hand, is traveling to some destination where he was briefed would find out more about his mission, which would have something to do with fighting the dragons and other rival human clans. I don't know the rest since his actual mission is not as important as his personal quest to find out what his destiny and purpose is. In addition to interacting with ATG's character, Ru, and finding out how he knows her. (But at this point, the story is at a stand still and practically a day behind what is going on in this "dragon-human" part of the RP. I am waiting for ATG to get back into the RP).

Phew...How about that?


OK... I don't know if you read in the beginning, but NO ONE knows Karasu is the black and gold dragon. That whole assassination scene never should have happened because as a human, they don't know who I am. We might have to make up some other reason for that. Dragon/humans are very rare. I am thousands and thousand of years old and am particularly strong. I am the head of my clan, and the council of clans (of good dragons), and very well respected (and huge). Many people have heard of me, and I have a good reputation among humans and dragons. We want to help humans, not hurt them.

I am not traveling alone. My clan is in neighboring villages, and when I am a human, you don't know who I am. The High Council would never agree to such a thing as I am helping keep their territory safe. I am personally acquainted with the high Council. My territory IS friendly. They are not planning anything. I keep them safe.

We would have no troops as I live in a village with about 30 homes made of wood and thatched roof houses. It's kind of a backwards village with nothing of value, and no troops! I just protect them from bandits and such.

Why would the evil dragons form an alliance with humans, whom they hate and kill? The humans would not do it; I don't think... they are enemies.

There is no Academy here... as I said, it is a middle of nowhere cluster of villages out in the country, no troops, no anything.

Why would you want to attack my clan and my (very few) people anyway and why would humans from your territory ally with evil dragons that they could never trust? What is the purpose?

The only purpose I can think of is that they want the land for your own territory (the humans); however, I cannot see humans teaming up with evil dragons unless it benefits the dragons somehow, and why would the humans believe an evil dragon anyway?

If you can figure out why humans and evil dragons would team up to attack tiny villages without armies, out in the country, which would be fine. Perhaps to expand territory, perhaps resource deposits... iron, coal, whatever. Nevertheless, you would have to have a reason for the dragons to help you. It could be for the same reason... to get rid of the good dragons so they can rule, however I cannot see the humans agreeing to that, because they cannot be trusted. If you can figure out something like that, it might work. Your dragon clan could have hated me for centuries for stopping a lot of your plots, etc., and you just want me out of the way.

We are going to have to do something about that part about me being shot. I started that because I was going to leave the forums and kill myself off and changed my mind. It could a random thief who knows I'm the village protector, as no one knows I am a dragon.

I do not see any conflict lasting long when I live with a few peasants and you have an army of troops. I think it would be over quite quickly.

If you can work it out somehow that way, that is fine, as far as that person’s assignment, etc., I have no clue... or Azazel either.

I hope people are reading this thread because something is going to have to change regarding the assassination thing. It is not going to be an assassination ... as no one knows who I am... yet.... I will let it be known in my own time. :D
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 06:49
ooc: Since NO ONE knows that I am a dragon, an assassin wouldn't be after me. We're going to have to change it to a prominant bandit or something. I will reveal when I'm ready to have someone find out. People can have their suspiciouns, but no proof, and not really sure at all. So, I'm shot like before, but not by an assassin. We're going to have to change that. As Karasu the human, that is all anyone knows of me.
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 06:52
Everyone read post #2! All of them should really be read...
-Noir-
05-07-2005, 07:38
OK... I don't know if you read in the beginning, but NO ONE knows Karasu is the black and gold dragon. That whole assassination scene never should have happened because as a human, they don't know who I am. We might have to make up some other reason for that. Dragon/humans are very rare. I am thousands and thousand of years old and am particularly strong. I am the head of my clan, and the council of clans (of good dragons), and very well respected (and huge). Many people have heard of me, and I have a good reputation among humans and dragons. We want to help humans, not hurt them.

Correction:

-You have a good reputation amoung some humans and dragons but not all.

-You may be thousands and thousands of years old, but it is possible that this conflict was thousands and thousands years ago. (When I say this, the fact remains that this is a broad topic that could contain enough specifics to warrant its own RP).

-You are the head of a clan or clans of good dragons, but not all.

I am not traveling alone. My clan is in neighboring villages, and when I am a human, you don't know who I am. The High Council would never agree to such a thing as I am helping keep their territory safe. I am personally acquainted with the high Council. My territory IS friendly. They are not planning anything. I keep them safe.

Correction:

-I am and have been currently RPing this currently unnamed High Council. And no one can rule out the possibility that some outside entity/group/faction/clan has been able to influence the decisions of the High Council. Influencing the Council to decide that aiding in taking you out would benefit them in some way or another - resources and/or territory (or we could say that your heart is an important ingredient in some potion that could be used as a WMD).

-And who said I was talking about the Council you are thinking about? You might have a different council.

-Weaker characters might not know who you are, but there is no denying the possibility that someone of a high level of knowledge, magic, or etc will know who and what you are.

Point of Clarification:

-Is this your territory you are currently traveling in, if you claim that your clan is in the neighboring villages?

We would have no troops as I live in a village with about 30 homes made of wood and thatched roof houses. It's kind of a backwards village with nothing of value, and no troops! I just protect them from bandits and such.

Why would the evil dragons form an alliance with humans, whom they hate and kill? The humans would not do it; I don't think... they are enemies.

Correction:

-We can't rule out the possibility that the human magic users might have created some spell or potion (or something) that can be used effectively against the dragons. The dragons, on the other hand, see that if they lend their great strength with the human magic users, they will be able to increase their holdings of land and resource.

There is no Academy here... as I said, it is a middle of nowhere cluster of villages out in the country, no troops, no anything.

Correction:

-Who said the Academy is located in your territory? It could be in some galaxy far far away. Anyways, this started out as ATG's RP in her world. I RPed that Mazer came from the Academy in a nearby town this RP started in. I wrote that Mazer is supposed to go through a forest and past that meet up with some informat. We could say that the forest forms the boundary between the two territories.

Why would you want to attack my clan and my (very few) people anyway and why would humans from your territory ally with evil dragons that they could never trust? What is the purpose?

-Your land. Territory. The need to take over your territory in order to get to the next territory and so on.

The only purpose I can think of is that they want the land for your own territory (the humans); however, I cannot see humans teaming up with evil dragons unless it benefits the dragons somehow, and why would the humans believe an evil dragon anyway?

-You answered your own question. Both sides want to increase their power and territory. If the dragons have the rationality to team up with other dragons to increase their number and strength. Then they should see the rationality to team up with the humans who have similar goals and have some advantage in achieving these goals. Also valid vice-versa. It's just politics and elementary strategy.

If you can figure out why humans and evil dragons would team up to attack tiny villages without armies, out in the country, which would be fine. Perhaps to expand territory, perhaps resource deposits... iron, coal, whatever. Nevertheless, you would have to have a reason for the dragons to help you. It could be for the same reason... to get rid of the good dragons so they can rule, however I cannot see the humans agreeing to that, because they cannot be trusted. If you can figure out something like that, it might work. Your dragon clan could have hated me for centuries for stopping a lot of your plots, etc., and you just want me out of the way.

-Already answered above.

We are going to have to do something about that part about me being shot. I started that because I was going to leave the forums and kill myself off and changed my mind. It could a random thief who knows I'm the village protector, as no one knows I am a dragon.

-Or we could make the story more exciting and interesting and continue our current course (of course continuing full speed when ATG gets back). Not everything has to mold to your storyline. That's what RPing with other people is about: to create a story from a single idea then constantly adapting the ideas of other RPers to create a complex and hopefully interesting story. The story itself evolves as more ideas pour in. As more ideas the RPers must make adjustments and adapt to changes and twists in the story. (It's similar to the concept that you must take losses in a war RP. Or the fact that one side must lose the war in a war RP. But if neither side wants to be the loser, then you get a stalemate and an equally stale RP)

I do not see any conflict lasting long when I live with a few peasants and you have an army of troops. I think it would be over quite quickly.

-But the fact that the ones who want to kill you know you are POWERFUL, they need to be cautious. They do not want to alert other clans to the fact that once you are gone, your territorial holdings are easy pickings. (Think, if India attacks Burma and overruns the Burmese military, the Chinese can easily swoop down and eliminate the logistically strained Indian army and take Burma for their own. While the Indian army has committed themselves to the Burma-China war, Pakistan can easily invade India while the Indian Army's back is turned.) It's a domino effect, in this world (I assume) where greed and ambition still run behind the decisions of those who have power.

If you can work it out somehow that way, that is fine, as far as that person’s assignment, etc., I have no clue... or Azazel either.

-We'll see...

I hope people are reading this thread because something is going to have to change regarding the assassination thing. It is not going to be an assassination ... as no one knows who I am... yet.... I will let it be known in my own time. :D

-Not everything has to go as planned, that's why it is multiplayer and not single player. All players must adapt in some way or another to the situation they are given.

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Since NO ONE knows that I am a dragon, an assassin wouldn't be after me. We're going to have to change it to a prominant bandit or something. I will reveal when I'm ready to have someone find out. People can have their suspiciouns, but no proof, and not really sure at all. So, I'm shot like before, but not by an assassin. We're going to have to change that. As Karasu the human, that is all anyone knows of me.

-You could just be a really popular human and have lots of influence over the people. You would be just the right candidate to assasinate in order to weaken the people around you, making them easier to subjugate.

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For example, if there are elements that begin to evolve in the RP, by other players, that are contrary to my idea what will happen next, I'll fix my own storyboard and let my characters adapt to the change or find a way around it so that the RP will continue. (Gigantic run-on sentence I think)

Remember when ATG was still posting about her character? I didn't know that she was going into detail about her past. I used information she provided on her character so that I could allow my character the chance/reason to interact with her character. (So far we've RPed that there could be some past familiarities between the character, but the specifics are still up in the air)
-Noir-
05-07-2005, 07:56
"Phew" that was a long post...Those were just my ideas.

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I'm getting sleepy...I'll get back to you in the AM, or probably when I get back from school. Annoying...They blocked NS on the school computers...Errr them!
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 09:08
Correction:

-You have a good reputation amoung some humans and dragons but not all.

-You may be thousands and thousands of years old, but it is possible that this conflict was thousands and thousands years ago. (When I say this, the fact remains that this is a broad topic that could contain enough specifics to warrant its own RP).

-You are the head of a clan or clans of good dragons, but not all.

Correction:

-I am and have been currently RPing this currently unnamed High Council. And no one can rule out the possibility that some outside entity/group/faction/clan has been able to influence the decisions of the High Council. Influencing the Council to decide that aiding in taking you out would benefit them in some way or another - resources and/or territory (or we could say that your heart is an important ingredient in some potion that could be used as a WMD).

-And who said I was talking about the Council you are thinking about? You might have a different

council.

-Weaker characters might not know who you are, but there is no denying the possibility that someone of a high level of knowledge, magic, or etc will know who and what you are.

Point of Clarification:

-Is this your territory you are currently traveling in, if you claim that your clan is in the neighboring villages?



Correction:

-We can't rule out the possibility that the human magic users might have created some spell or potion (or something) that can be used effectively against the dragons. The dragons, on the other hand, see that if they lend their great strength with the human magic users, they will be able to increase their holdings of land and resource.



Correction:

-Who said the Academy is located in your territory? It could be in some galaxy far far away. Anyways, this started out as ATG's RP in her world. I RPed that Mazer came from the Academy in a nearby town this RP started in. I wrote that Mazer is supposed to go through a forest and past that meet up with some informat. We could say that the forest forms the boundary between the two territories.



-Your land. Territory. The need to take over your territory in order to get to the next territory and so on.



-You answered your own question. Both sides want to increase their power and territory. If the dragons have the rationality to team up with other dragons to increase their number and strength. Then they should see the rationality to team up with the humans who have similar goals and have some advantage in achieving these goals. Also valid vice-versa. It's just politics and elementary strategy.



-Already answered above.



-Or we could make the story more exciting and interesting and continue our current course (of course continuing full speed when ATG gets back). Not everything has to mold to your storyline. That's what RPing with other people is about: to create a story from a single idea then constantly adapting the ideas of other RPers to create a complex and hopefully interesting story. The story itself evolves as more ideas pour in. As more ideas the RPers must make adjustments and adapt to changes and twists in the story. (It's similar to the concept that you must take losses in a war RP. Or the fact that one side must lose the war in a war RP. But if neither side wants to be the loser, then you get a stalemate and an equally stale RP)



-But the fact that the ones who want to kill you know you are POWERFUL, they need to be cautious. They do not want to alert other clans to the fact that once you are gone, your territorial holdings are easy pickings. (Think, if India attacks Burma and overruns the Burmese military, the Chinese can easily swoop down and eliminate the logistically strained Indian army and take Burma for their own. While the Indian army has committed themselves to the Burma-China war, Pakistan can easily invade India while the Indian Army's back is turned.) It's a domino effect, in this world (I assume) where greed and ambition still run behind the decisions of those who have power.



-We'll see...



-Not everything has to go as planned, that's why it is multiplayer and not single player. All players must adapt in some way or another to the situation they are given.

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-You could just be a really popular human and have lots of influence over the people. You would be just the right candidate to assasinate in order to weaken the people around you, making them easier to subjugate.

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For example, if there are elements that begin to evolve in the RP, by other players, that are contrary to my idea what will happen next, I'll fix my own storyboard and let my characters adapt to the change or find a way around it so that the RP will continue. (Gigantic run-on sentence I think)

Remember when ATG was still posting about her character? I didn't know that she was going into detail about her past. I used information she provided on her character so that I could allow my character the chance/reason to interact with her character. (So far we've RPed that there could be some past familiarities between the character, but the specifics are still up in the air)

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Noir:

You said MY territory's council agreeing to have me killed. Quote further down. I am on good terms with them. If you can run my territory's council, I can run your Academy then... it's the same thing.

-Weaker characters might not know who you are, but there is no denying the possibility that someone of a high level of knowledge, magic, or etc will know who and what you are.

CORRECTION:

Also it was agreed upon that NO ONE AT ALL knows Karasu is the dragon until I decide when to let that be known. This isn't negotiable right now.
People can be suspicious, but NO ONE knows.

-You could just be a really popular human and have lots of influence over the people. You would be just the right candidate to assassinate in order to weaken the people around you, making them easier to subjugate.

~That's plausible. However, as I said, you have troops, I have peasants and no army... That would be a quick war.

~I am the head of my clan of dragons and the head of Council of good dragons in general.


-You answered your own question. Both sides want to increase their power and territory. If the dragons have the rationality to team up with other dragons to increase their number and strength. Then they should see the rationality to team up with the humans who have similar goals and have some advantage in achieving these goals. Also valid vice-versa. It's just politics and elementary strategy.

~Then the evil dragons kill all your humans??? As evil dragons would once they get what they want? They hate humans.

-You have a good reputation among some humans and dragons but not all.

~The decent non-evil ones anyway. Humans who know of me, know that they don't have to fear me like they do your clans, as I am a protector.


-I am and have been currently RPing this currently unnamed High Council. And no one can rule out the possibility that some outside entity/group/faction/clan has been able to influence the decisions of the High Council.

~You said it was my territory's high council that agreed to me being assassinated :

"They then asked a favor from the High Council of this territory you are in, which includes that "Academy" several of our characters are from, to kill you." (at least That would be the same as me RPing your Academy.)

-Weaker characters might not know who you are, but there is no denying the possibility that someone of a high level of knowledge, magic, or etc will know who and what you are.

~NO! This was explicitly agreed upon at the beginning that I decide when it is revealed.


-Is this your territory you are currently traveling in, if you claim that your clan is in the neighboring villages?

~Yes, a territory consists of more than one village of 30 houses. Neighboring villages, not neighboring territories.

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As someone told me long ago, no RPer can make another RPer do anything or be anything unless they want to. I don't mind plot twists, but you can't just decide that we were in a war 4000 years ago or something.

Something that happened long ago, w/the dragons, that could work...

We couldn't fight a war against anyone as we're just a bunch of peasants.

It was agreed in the beginning that NO ONE knows my identity until I want to reveal that info.

If someone tried to assassinate me for some other reason, fine.

In your last post, I believe you said it was my territory's High Council that made a deal with you to get rid of me. We're just a peaceful bunch of peasants. You're RPing my territory's high council, I might as well run your Academy which you said was in my territory.

Of course, I don't mind going with the flow, if it makes sense. It was agreed NO ONE knows Karasu is the dragon until I want to reveal it or let someone find out. People can have their suspicions.

Assassins can come after me for other reasons.

Are you saying you're running my territory's High Council?

We could never defend against an army... Just a few peasants?

If there is supposed to be some issue w/the dragons from eons back, that's fine, depending on what it was, but the dragons also can't know who I am. I don't know how you'll work that out, but they can't. They can know me only as a dragon.

I'm sure it will all work itself out as we get going... :D
Caladonn
05-07-2005, 18:38
Wow! You two are really going at one another!

Noir, I like many of your ideas. Most are plausible, and would, as you say, increase the potential of this rp.

However, there are a few kinks we still have to work out (After all, that is the reason for this thread):

-Aramil is a several hundred year old elf. Unfortunately, I really can't change that. Possibly, so that Azazel as a human could be a "mentor" type person to him, he could have increased his lifespan with magic. It would be much harder for Azazel to make a promise to Aramil's parents, as that would have to have been many centuries ago.

-Aramil is from far away. The only way he got to this place is due to a teleportation mix-up. Therefore, he couldn't have gone to an Academy one town over. I really think it would be better if The Academy is far away, an enigmatic place the High Council uses to train its mages. Azazel could either have taught there when Aramil went there or been a fellow student who was a good friend. I'm willing to forego Aramil going to an all-elven school in Caladonn.

-The High Council, as I see it, should probably be an international group of mages, based near the Academy, but with ties to mages trained there all around the world. Possibly, the Council has become evil, but it is not known by many. Therefore, more altruistic members such as Aramil would not know of an alliance with evil dragons, or a plot to steal Karasu's heart/ kill her to help evil dragons. That might pose a problem with Mazer, but possibly he could be from an academy that functions as the militaristic arm of the Council, in the town near Karasu's village.

-Evil organisations often associate for mutual gain, so that seems perfectly plausible. If we follow the idea that The High Council was good, but has now allied with evil dragons, then since both of the organisations would have around equal power, they could form a tenuous alliance, it seems to me.

How does that sound?
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 18:38
OOC: NOIR

You're right, but maybe not AIM. I usually use that and I'll get 100 IMs before I can even say a word to you. Do you have MSN? I just got it and it works well.

Besides I'm physically damaged from being at the puter too much. I can't see normal small print w/out a magnifying glass. I have blurred and double vision. That only started when I was online for a long time lately. That's not the only thing, but I'd like to get things sorted and IM sounds like it will be faster... but let's not give up all the surprises! :D
Hyperslackovicznia
05-07-2005, 22:59
I was under the impression that each territory has it's own High Council. That is kind of the way Noir referred to it.

Also, NO ONE knows I'm a dragon. Everyone thinks Karasu is a human, and the black and gold dragon is a dragon, not one person. This was discussed. NO ONE knows at this point.

As I said, we are a small collection of villages with no army to defend anything. There wouldn't have to be any collaberation with anyone as we don't have troops and they'd be up against an army.

This has to be worked out so it doesn't have so many "highly improbables" in it. And the two kids fit in somewhere important, as does Angelus. But if it's just the land, we can't defend from armies.
Caladonn
06-07-2005, 02:36
Oh. I got the impression there was only one High Council.
-Noir-
06-07-2005, 02:44
I have MSN: aegis00010@hotmail.com

and Yahoo: L33t_4g3nt@yahoo.com

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Drafting up a response...
Hyperslackovicznia
06-07-2005, 04:26
Oh. I got the impression there was only one High Council.

We're just batting around ideas.... :p
-Noir-
06-07-2005, 04:43
Hey, Hyper, I can't connect to the MSN server. Talk to me on AIM, my MSN SN is the same for my AIM.
Hyperslackovicznia
06-07-2005, 04:45
I'm not up to doing it now... I'm running on 3 hrs of sleep. My eyes are so blurred I can hardly see and I haven't eaten yet today.
-Noir-
06-07-2005, 04:50
I'm not up to doing it now... I'm running on 3 hrs of sleep. My eyes are so blurred I can hardly see and I haven't eaten yet today.

Try increasing the font of your Browser. If you are using FireFox go to the "View" tab and go to "Text Size" and adjust from there. Or you could increase the resolution of your PC. Right click your desk top. Go to "Properties" and go to the "Settings" tab and adjust the resolution to something like 800x600.

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Just give me your SN so that I'll just add it to my buddy list
Hyperslackovicznia
06-07-2005, 05:06
I can't stay on much longer... really... I'm going to sign off in a few minutes...
Hyperslackovicznia
06-07-2005, 20:17
Noir, I should be online tonight if you want to talk... msn is working again...
Caladonn
07-07-2005, 20:16
Where is Noir?
-Noir-
08-07-2005, 06:55
I was busy...I couldn't get my computer to work.
Hyperslackovicznia
08-07-2005, 07:38
It's not like we can do anything anyway... Noir, we still have to talk soon :D
Caladonn
08-07-2005, 18:09
True, we can't. *Awaits AtG*
-Noir-
08-07-2005, 23:20
Huh??? what's going on???? Hyper??
-Noir-
09-07-2005, 16:57
Why!!!!!!!!!! Stay!!!!!!!!!! At Least For This Thread!!!!!!!!!
Hyperslackovicznia
10-07-2005, 18:42
I will stay for this... :) It's too much fun! :D
-Noir-
10-07-2005, 19:13
I will stay for this... :) It's too much fun! :D

If Amanda is even able to get to a computer...

Avoid posting in the IC thread...It's redundant.

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ehhh...what was I going to do again?

oh, yea...write up some reply to Hyper's post a while back
Hyperslackovicznia
11-07-2005, 19:07
I'm in another one of her RPs. If someone takes over that RP, we can have someone do the same here, I guess.... Although I have no clue where she's taking it... we could work it out if we had to.
Caladonn
11-07-2005, 19:08
Thank you for not leaving!

I hope Amanda comes back.
Hyperslackovicznia
11-07-2005, 19:10
She will, but who knows when. She moved... It could be a while yet, but if someone takes over her other RP, someone should take over this one, I guess...
-Noir-
11-07-2005, 19:31
We could make a new thread for our portion of the story. I think I am technically the only one who was directly RPing with ATG, so I don't think there should really be a plot/story conflict.

Hey, we're online, let's IM each other and talk.
Hyperslackovicznia
11-07-2005, 22:07
NOIR! You don't have a nation, so I can't TG you to get your IM... I've been using MSN... TG me w/your info so we can talk... Things are VERY busy for me this week, so hopefully soon. I'm going to wait and see if anyone takes over for Amanda in the other thread. But TG me...
-Noir-
11-07-2005, 23:58
I have a nation.
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 06:53
Anyone?
Theao
13-07-2005, 07:22
I'm still here.
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 08:02
OK! which character were you again?
Theao
13-07-2005, 08:08
The half-demon Khevit.
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 08:16
Oh, ok.

Hey, I was thinking that we should just start a new thread and continue RPing where we are now in the new thread, while we wait for AtG to come back. The problem is that some people are missing and we all need to be here to discuss this.

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I'm going to bed. If it's possible, can you leave your Instant Messenger SN here so that I/we (maybe Hyper or someone might want to talk to you) can contact each other and discuss the future of this RP. My SNs should be in the previous page.

[The little buttons underneath our nation names, on the left hand side, don't seem to work]
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 08:21
Oh, ok.

Hey, I was thinking that we should just start a new thread and continue RPing where we are now in the new thread, while we wait for AtG to come back. The problem is that some people are missing and we all need to be here to discuss this.

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I'm going to bed. If it's possible, can you leave your Instant Messenger SN here so that I/we (maybe Hyper or someone might want to talk to you) can contact each other and discuss the future of this RP. My SNs should be in the previous page.

[The little buttons underneath our nation names, on the left hand side, don't seem to work]
Theao
13-07-2005, 08:27
My MSN name is vc_64@yahoo.ca
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 19:22
My MSN name is vc_64@yahoo.ca

is it really ".ca" ? or did you make a typo? yea...this is a dumb question :-P
[NS]XElegant_Egotistx
13-07-2005, 21:40
Amanda is coming back... just a matter of time.

I suggest we continue (go off on a tangent) the part about the villiage and the children, and me being the dragon, and Khevit. Stag can't get on line so Angelus is out. Wasn't Amanda playing the kids? She was going somewhere with that.

We could just go off on a tangent involving those still here, but make it so we can get back on Amanda's track when she's back.

I think that would be a good idea.

I think that' s the best idea. A tangent that wouldn't make Amanda have to go thru and read it. Almost like a different thread, but not.

What do you guys think?
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 22:30
Mmhmm...Like what I was saying...Let's just make a new thread.
[NS]XElegant_Egotistx
13-07-2005, 22:45
There will only be a couple of us, but we can each add a character and play two or something. But nothing that will affect Amanda's original story...
Caladonn
13-07-2005, 23:02
Ok, I'm with you. However, I don't really want another character. Aramil's a solitary elf, for the most part. I would be happy to participate in a new thread.

Oh, and my AIM SN is Aramil799 :D
-Noir-
13-07-2005, 23:03
I'll think up of a character or two.

Since we're deviating from the initial plot, proposed by AtG, where do we want this RP to go? Any suggestions?
Caladonn
13-07-2005, 23:06
Hmmm... Pirates? Bandits? Love? Shipwreck? War? Rivalry? Magic? Dragons?

We could go anywhere, however, no ideas are forthcoming at the moment.
[NS]XElegant_Egotistx
14-07-2005, 00:09
I am a dragon... I don't want to do wars I thought it would spin off from where we are somehow....
-Noir-
14-07-2005, 00:50
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Comparitive_handgun_rounds.jpg/800px-Comparitive_handgun_rounds.jpg

Common handgun cartridges. Left to right: 3 in 12 ga magnum shotgun shell (for comparison), size "AA" battery (for comparison), .454 Casull, .45 Winchester Magnum, .44 Remington Magnum, .357 Magnum, .38 Special, .45 ACP, .38 Super, 9 mm Luger, .32 ACP, .22 LR
-Noir-
14-07-2005, 00:55
http://www.shootingindustry.com/Ftr0405c/SWModel.jpg


Smith & Wesson
Model 460 XRV

Smith & Wesson’s latest addition to its large-caliber X-Frame revolvers is the Model 460XVR (X-treme Velocity Revolver). Firing the new .460 S&W Magnum, Smith & Wesson reports the revolver delivers a muzzle velocity of 2,300 feet per second. Weighing 73 ounces and measuring 8 1/3 inches, the five-shot, single/double-action revolver features a stainless steel finish and interchangeable compensator.


(this one???)
-Noir-
14-07-2005, 00:58
XElegant_Egotistx']I am a dragon... I don't want to do wars I thought it would spin off from where we are somehow....

yea...NO wars...

how about something complex with a deep plot... :-P very general description...
[NS]XElegant_Egotistx
14-07-2005, 01:05
lol!! You found it!!!

Well I mean I don't want to do nations. I want to continue w/our same characters and possibly add some new ones and maybe go toward the villages being attacked... or teleporting someplace weird... I dunno!!!
-Noir-
18-07-2005, 23:28
where is everyone?
Theao
18-07-2005, 23:39
I'm here.
[NS]XElegant_Egotistx
19-07-2005, 01:45
I can't get together tonight. We have to discuss this all together soon. Get this going.... Work those minds and .... No, don't work those minds... keep them open and something will show up! It always works that way... I need about 40 hours of sleep, so I am typoing and shit... Will talk to you all later!
:fluffle:
-Noir-
19-07-2005, 04:09
my feet hurt...i have blisters on the balls of my feet...and it hurt...and blisters on the big toes...

i cant walk!!
-Noir-
20-07-2005, 03:05
So...what are we going to do now? We NEED to all get together and talk about creating a new thread to continue this RP. Oh, and make a list of who are still in this thing.
Caladonn
20-07-2005, 21:20
I'm in.
Theao
20-07-2005, 21:26
Just so you know, I'm pretty sure EE is gone for good.
Caladonn
20-07-2005, 22:45
Huh? EE?
Theao
20-07-2005, 22:58
Meant XElegant_Egotistx, I think of that as EE in mental shortform.
-Noir-
21-07-2005, 04:53
Hmmm...This is bad...We lost another one.

Men, we gotta get Hype back, again! We cannot suffer another loss from this thread. We need to convince Hype to come back, at least for this RP. She left because the people in some Paradise Club thread were being poor sports (methinks).

I know each one of us would do our best to encourage each other when they are feeling down and feel like giving up on NS. So we must do our part now and bring Hype back to the true RolePlaying Forums, NS and II! We cannot let a couple of stubborn people scare away and ruin the fun for our fellow RPers!

Who is with me???

Remember that this is one of, or the only thread, which has been started by AtG, that has survived this far. Remember how we have discussed preventing this RP from dying while its creator is away. Remember that we can keep this RP safe from dying. Then resurrecting it when AtG comes back, and continue RPing as if she never left. We can only accomplish this if we stay in contact with each other and do not waver from our goal.

I ask again! Who is with me?
Theao
21-07-2005, 05:05
I'm all for it, though I can say with almost 100% certainty that Hyper isn't coming back. Also ATGs been gone for 34 days.
-Noir-
21-07-2005, 07:05
I'm all for it, though I can say with almost 100% certainty that Hyper isn't coming back. Also ATGs been gone for 34 days.

we can only hope and pray...and work hard to get them back
-Noir-
21-07-2005, 07:28
errr...
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
25-07-2005, 16:03
Hey Theo.... guess who? ;) Please, no one say anything. I want to finish this Amanda or no Amanda. Stag's puter is working again. Maybe we can come up with a plot from where we were headed after she left??
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
25-07-2005, 16:06
Hmmm...This is bad...We lost another one.

Men, we gotta get Hype back, again! We cannot suffer another loss from this thread. We need to convince Hype to come back, at least for this RP. She left because the people in some Paradise Club thread were being poor sports (methinks).

I know each one of us would do our best to encourage each other when they are feeling down and feel like giving up on NS. So we must do our part now and bring Hype back to the true RolePlaying Forums, NS and II! We cannot let a couple of stubborn people scare away and ruin the fun for our fellow RPers!

Who is with me???

Remember that this is one of, or the only thread, which has been started by AtG, that has survived this far. Remember how we have discussed preventing this RP from dying while its creator is away. Remember that we can keep this RP safe from dying. Then resurrecting it when AtG comes back, and continue RPing as if she never left. We can only accomplish this if we stay in contact with each other and do not waver from our goal.

I ask again! Who is with me?

Thanks! I will do NS, but only NS RP. And I still want to remain anonymous.

I am busy the next few days and have double vision again, but we could get this going. I don't see Amanda coming back. Her other RP is at a standstill as well.

Everyone think... I think going from where we sort of left off when she was gone to begin with may work... Add some stuff.... :)
-Noir-
26-07-2005, 00:15
mmhmm...let's get this thing up and running again!

we should make atleast one more character in addition to the one we have RPing our part of the Destiny RP.

I technically have, including Mazer who was interacting with AtG's, but i'm not counting him. I'll think up of a new character.

We also need to think up a new theme so that it'll be easier to RP. Destiny was about finding someone's true path in life, or something of the sort. I think we've deviated from that in (I'll call it part two, the part of the thread that involves the dragon, assasin, and such) part two. We could slowly mold our characters and how we RP them a bit to match up to the original theme, or we can just start a new theme and continue from there.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
26-07-2005, 01:52
I'd kind of like it if our characters were the same. We've gotten to know them... Perhaps we could turn this into a quest for something... ???
Theao
26-07-2005, 01:55
The Holy Grail, the Golden Fleece, the Ark of Covenant? Something along those lines?
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
26-07-2005, 01:58
Something where we encounter a lot of resistance, organized and not organized. Maybe just some treasure. But with lots of danger and whatnot...
Theao
26-07-2005, 02:01
Of the quests I listed, that would be the quest for the Golden Fleece then.
Theao
26-07-2005, 02:25
Or we could do something like the assassination attempt left a poison or somesuch and the only way to get the antidote were to gather twelve items and trade them to a god for the antidote. Something like the twelve tasks of hercules.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
26-07-2005, 18:32
Well, I was thinking more of that military school and that unknown guy, etc. Or perhaps we have to stop someone from taking power of the land...?

I assume this is definitely in the far past, judging from the dwellings, etc. And swords for weapons. I like that. And the magic. I don't know...
Caladonn
26-07-2005, 19:57
Hmmm. Yeah, this is in the past. Where should we go with it? Haven't a clue.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
27-07-2005, 02:05
Caladonn! I'm sorry. I forgot you were in this thread, as you haven't been posting. I'm glad you're staying.

Does anyone know Skinny7? He's interested in checking out this RP and maybe joining. Does anyone have any objections to that?

I'd like us to keep the same characters we are now and maybe play others if we want.

I did like my part in the story and intend to play the same character. I still want to be the human shinobi/dragon mix, and no one knows. And to be a protector.

Maybe everyone could list their character because I forgot half of them, and this way we'd know what we're dealing with.

I remember a couple that Amanda was playing. I was thinking of taking over the kids, if it's OK. What I'd do with them, I don't know.

The way we were headed before we quit was pretty good. Perhaps we could have an enemy steal a powerful magical item from the village when I'm not there to protect. It's being stolen by military underlings to give to a tyrant/dictator who wants to rule the entire land. He's evil and cruel, but he needs this item in order to have complete control. We have to get it back or everyone is doomed. It's perhaps a magical gem. So we have to go get this gem and then there are, of course, many encounters along the way.

There would have to be a lot of communication in OOC: but I like the idea.
We could play various monsters and enemies when we wanted to. If there was a question as to the enemy's power or magical ability, we'd come to ooc and discuss.

I like this idea... I really do. What do you guys think.
Oh, btw, I'm Hype. Please tell no one. I have my reasons... Thanks :D
Theao
27-07-2005, 02:52
Sounds good, and I knew it was you.
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 04:11
I'll RP one bad character...actually, i've already begun RPing the bad guys.

Forgot what the name of my character was...

I'll probably create a good guy character to RP with you guys.

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So, how about this...Hype, listening? We do not know you are part dragon. But we know you carry some deep down secret that is essential for the bad guys to take control of the land. we could say that your ancestors had implanted a memory in your head like some location that is some secret location etc etc...But of course, you do not know that you have this memory.

how's that?
Theao
27-07-2005, 04:45
Noir, been watching too much TV?
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 07:52
huh? watch too much TV? i dont watch TV at all...

i dont watch TV if you dont count anime on the computer or DVDs and movies HBO...i dont watch regular TV/Cable
Theao
27-07-2005, 09:07
I was talking about anime, your idea is part of the plot for the anime InuYasha.
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 18:15
i didnt know that...i havent watched inuyasha...ive seen episodes, but not the complete thing
Theao
27-07-2005, 18:22
It's one of the first episodes, during which InuYasha gets his sword.
Staggering drunks
27-07-2005, 18:42
Good grief, I didn't know all this was going on.
Although I'm hurt noone mentioned me *pout*
Well I'm fine for whatever goes on, none of this affected my character much, so lets just start already! :p
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 20:14
k, hype...good idea, but I have a better I idea instead of the gem.

Like what I said earlier, well maybe with some changes. We have the basic good versus bad plot.

The good guys, let's say that it's this small group we have, plus some if we add more characters. The good guys coincidentally meet at this one place, no one knows each other but everyone has a gut feeling that they had known each other or are familiar with each other. So for a while they are continuously attacked by some unnamed force or forces. They decide that since the attacks are somewhat centered at them, where ever they travel, they decide that it's better to travel as a group. One reason behind this is because they also do not want to get other innocent bystandards attacked. So the group keep traveling. It could be possible that some characters might have some side quests that they want to accomplish, so everyone participates. Usually these quests would involve digging up a person's past. Probably in every side quest, the characters uncover glimpses of their past and glimpses of why they find their companions familiar.

The climax of the RP would start building up at some point when they travel to some small quiet town, hoping to hide from their pursuers. There, they are told by some "oracle" figure that they had been choosen to defeat some evil power or group or some supernatural being from taking over the world. It was this power/group/being that had been bent on killing them. The "oracle" or whoever says that they must do something that is essential to defeat the bad guys. I'm not sure what they must do, but we'll figure that out. But while they are questing to do the thing that must be done to defeat the badguys, they slowly, SLOWLY, find out that in their past life, they were entrusted with this same task. This is why they all thought they knew each other, or why some of them could relate to each other, or that they had been siblings separated from birth, or they they were lovers in their previous life, or they had been rivals from childhood but best friends or something. We can elaborate on this later once we get to this point. (That would be really far, I want to get through as many side quests before coming to this actual "oracle" part. Plus I would actually like to RP some romance for a change, the regular stuff gets tedious and dull.).

So, they are given some quests by the oracle, and through these quests each character finds out more about themselves. (Probably one quest per character.) Within these quests and the memories gained from them, it would help clearify their relationship with each other and help them in further quests. Like hints, that you should do this, or you shouldn't do that because it's a trap etc etc. New quests pop up from these memories and all this time, the bad guys (to be determined) have been trying to stop them from continuing, trying to stop the reacquisition of these memories. Eventually the good guys group will come to a point where they find out what they must do with all they have gained from all this questing and gathering of memories and whatever is needed to defeat the bad guys. (We could have some instances where the bad guys will go on the offensive and attack some small town or city, or will actually attack the main group when they are just travelling.)

Ok, we've come to the climax of the RP, the final showdown. We find out that there that in our previous lives that we were going to do this, that we were the ones who defeated these guys in our previous lives. (The characters might have flashbacks about their previous lives, but this is were it all comes together.) Probably at this point, we have established that there would be one bad guy per every good guy. We can say that they are their alter egos, their bad selves, their evil selves, their negatives in life. It is they who have been attacking us, etc etc. Now this is the time where we have some intense battling, showing A LOT of emotion, the enemies taking advantage of the good guy's emotion and thoughts, because we can say that the bad guys are a representation of the good guys, just in evil form. Once the bad guys are completed we have two options we can RP.

(Optional) Finally we come to the main bad guy, some ultimate evil. We must group together all our strengths and fight him through a series of trials that force us to fight each other. Friend will fight friend. Sibling will fight sibling. Lover will fight lover. Rivals will settle their rivalry once and for all. We can have some characters die (but of course it has to be RPed well...i dont mind sacrificing a few characters). We could also have it where their opponents are just imaginary (but really life-like) images created by the ultimate evil. But it would be nice if some people would actually be willing to sacrifice their character(s). At the end, probably with a very noticible character depletion (it would be best that there would only be two that would face the "ultimate evil") and they would continue fighting. The "dead" characters might come back as spirits and interact with the minds of the living characters (say encouraging stuff, or put them down etc etc...) or the spirits might be able to inflict some damage to the ultimate evil or something of the sort, weaken it so that its attacks miss. Then the ultimate evil dies. Everyone is happy. The world is saved. (I'd prefer that the two at the end of this are two characters that have a strong relationship, preferably boy x girl, but we can tweak it if the two at the end have the same gender)

(Mandatory - can be done with or without the "optional" - but must be done at the end)

We come to the end the alter egos and the ultimate evil (or just the alter egos) have been defeated. The remaining characters*, or the better said the remaining character pair(s), must decide among themselves who must make the ultimate sacrifice. The "rules" require that to prevent the bad guys from reviving or to fix their destruction in the world, one person in a pair must spill the blood of their "partner." In the end, they would go back in the world and continue with their lives not knowing about the recent events, everything would revert back to the begining of the RP. It would all be the same, except that the attacks would be missing, and the dead characters. The dead characters would be reborn again, but as different people, also oblivious to the fact that everything that has happened has happened.

(((We could RP further reunions between characters etc etc...I will go through more details later. But now I must leave to take my driver's permit test. )))

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Important Notes

* I'd like to point out the fact that it might be necessary to have an even amount of characters so that everyone can make a pair. Preferably a pair that can interact with each other really well. One RPer and and another RPer could each of a character that would make a pair, or one RPer could RP out two characters to make a pair.

It could also be possible that whatever they are questing for require two users, a pair. So we could say that we have eight characters, 4 pairs, and some how they have some sort of relationship with each other. Something that binds both of them. We could say that the group is questing for weapons, and that each weapon requires two users...etc etc etc.

** This portion really works well when there's a romance involved between two characters. They could have probably known each the whole time or could have gotten together at some time during the quest. Or they could have been childhood sweethearts but are separated, and during their quest they become reunited as they find out more about their past...(to be continued)

***I've written too much...
Caladonn
27-07-2005, 20:45
Of course I was here. :rolleyes: And I knew it was you too.

Anyway, Noir, your idea seems very good. I like how the people travel on quests, fight a nameless enemy, etc. The Oracle part is good too.

However the whole thing about previous lives seems pretty wierd. I don't know if that'll work out. Also, I don't know about everyone playing multiple characters. As Hyper said, it's hard enough for other players to keep track of one character per person, let alone more. It's also kind of boring to have romance with your own characters. I prefer interacting with others' characters.

Perhaps two ultimate evils would be good, one tyrant, and the leader of the High Council who has been seduced by him/her/it. That would create an interesting conflict for any member characters.
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 23:25
Of course I was here. :rolleyes: And I knew it was you too.

Anyway, Noir, your idea seems very good. I like how the people travel on quests, fight a nameless enemy, etc. The Oracle part is good too.

However the whole thing about previous lives seems pretty wierd. I don't know if that'll work out. Also, I don't know about everyone playing multiple characters. As Hyper said, it's hard enough for other players to keep track of one character per person, let alone more. It's also kind of boring to have romance with your own characters. I prefer interacting with others' characters.

Perhaps two ultimate evils would be good, one tyrant, and the leader of the High Council who has been seduced by him/her/it. That would create an interesting conflict for any member characters.

Oh, dont worry...The previous lives things will work. I know it will. It'll make everything interesting. I'll explain once we get moving. I just want everyone to read what I posted first.

It isn't mandatory to have romance. It was just a suggestion. You also don't need to RP romance with your own characters. That's a suggestion also.

One ultimate evil is enough, plus we also have those "alter ego" bad guys/bosses. The "ultimate evil" character is optional.

((IM me if you have any questions. I'm busy at the moment, but I can squeeze in IMs, not really posts.))
-Noir-
27-07-2005, 23:27
The point I am trying to emphasize here with this "RP Suggestion" I have put forward is that it ties in with AtG's main theme "Destiny"
-Noir-
28-07-2005, 00:11
I've watched too much anime...But I don't care.
Staggering drunks
28-07-2005, 10:35
Hehe, well I like it :p Unfortunatley, Angelus is a half angel, so the rebirth thing gets sort of hazy there, but I'll think of somthing. Perhaps he is the only one who never gets reborn, but his human side makes him forget, thus he is the only agent of heaven that could concievably be used for this.
-Noir-
28-07-2005, 17:55
anyone?
-Noir-
28-07-2005, 18:58
Hehe, well I like it :p Unfortunatley, Angelus is a half angel, so the rebirth thing gets sort of hazy there, but I'll think of somthing. Perhaps he is the only one who never gets reborn, but his human side makes him forget, thus he is the only agent of heaven that could concievably be used for this.

hmmm...a previous life. we dont need to be specific when. it could have been a few years ago, or many MANY years ago. all that matters is that this previous life, all the characters had existed at the same time.

probably he wasnt an angel, maybe he died in the past and became an angel and this was the only life he knew about. it's up to you.

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this is just my suggestion for how we can continue this RP. i am of course pushing for this RP suggestion to fly, but it is still a suggestion. if you guys dont want to RP it, we can always do something else.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
28-07-2005, 19:00
Works for me except for the re-birth part as well, as I'm 1/2 dragon and thousands of years old. If we can work that stuff out, it sounds good to me.
-Noir-
28-07-2005, 19:22
=======================Quest==========================>
START-------------------------------------------------------------The End
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Everything is reset and reverts back to the START, but memories of the quest are erased. Everyone is brought back to the START, if died sacrificed themselves in The End, they are “reborn” in the START. If they did not die, then they just begin where they were in the START.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
29-07-2005, 02:35
I don't remember the start I don't think!!!! Where is this thread.....
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
29-07-2005, 02:39
I don't remember the start I don't think!!!! Where is this thread.....

I mean where are we starting it and everything. Noir, you're going to have to direct. I am now a corpse and must hit my coffin...
-Noir-
29-07-2005, 07:57
jeez...wait tomorrow, i'll make a thread...i just got back from tennis a while ago...and im all sore(sp?) and i reek...must shower...


it's 11:53pm when im posting this...so i played for a long time...


TOMORROW...but first lets figure out a title..."Destiny 2"?

or "Guardian's Destiny" or

(im so tempted to put down, "Kannaduki no Miko" - the anime i partially based this RP on...but "miko" wont work since it's mixed genders...)

or..."Orbis Animi" (latin for "Cycle of Souls" - ph34r my weak latin skills)

i think i'll go with the last one...if any of you have any suggestions, just post away

i am going to start writing the first post of the new thread, if any one of you has any more suggestions, post them now (also about the title). in my post i will write some background stuff, but after it, we'll continue where we left off in Destiny. from there, we'll see if this RP will keep following the storyline.

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so we are really going to follow what i suggested...ok...

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i'll work on this in a few...imma shower now *sniff sniff*
-Noir-
29-07-2005, 10:27
ugh...i just realized that i cant be copying things straight from my sources...i gotta find some way to re-write everything into my own words and also to create new ideas...

i'll be caught plagiarising!! i dont think i can even spell the word right
Staggering drunks
29-07-2005, 11:36
We will be sort of carrying on from the last thread yes? so we don't have to go through all the meeting again. That would be a little teidious
Caladonn
29-07-2005, 14:33
Yes. I'm sort of confused about the 'START' thing, and restart, and what's that supposed to be? I like 'Orbis Animi' though.
-Noir-
29-07-2005, 19:27
it'll work...just watch...or i'll explain in more detail later

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gotta go...going out for a while...
Caladonn
29-07-2005, 20:05
Sorry, I know this is a bad time when we're about to restart, but I'm going away for a week. If you have to start while I'm gone that's Ok, but if you don't then that's great too. Thanks!
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
29-07-2005, 20:09
I'm sure it will fit in fine, Cal. Have fun wherever you're going? :)
-Noir-
30-07-2005, 08:01
err...thread thread...must make that thread...
-Noir-
30-07-2005, 09:48
Yes. I'm sort of confused about the 'START' thing, and restart, and what's that supposed to be? I like 'Orbis Animi' though.


I drew the little diagram. What questions do you have about it?

Okay, the quest begins at the START (it technically has already begun in Destiny "i.e. the town scene"). The group gets together and goes on their quest. They find out that they have been choosen to defeat this evil power that threatens to take over/destry the world. They continue on their quest in order to defeat the evil power(s). They defeat the evil power(s) at The End. After defeating the evil power(s), some of the group must act as sacrifices in order to rebuild the world after all the destruction caused by the evil power(s).

Now everything reverts back to the START. We're back in the town. We could say that the assasin was working for the evil power(s), but since we defeated the evil power(s) now they do not exist. We can RP that they weren't attacked. Non of the attacks during the quest ever existed. But at the same time, some of the characters, namely the ones who sacrificed themselves, do not exist at the same time. The living characters have no recollection of what happened. (You can RP the living characters as having faint memories that might be triggered by something, and then having the living char. meet with a reincarnated sacrificed char. later in life, but that would be a story for a new RP.)

Example:

(Diagram A)

- START(1): We have characters A, B, C, and D. They meet at the "TOWN" and form a group. A-B forms a pair and C-D forms a pair. They fight a minion of the evil power(s).

- QUEST: The characters fight through the quest etc etc etc.

- THE END: A, B, C, and D fight and defeat the evil power(s). When it comes to the sacrificing part, A and D wish to be the sacrifices.

- REVERT PHASE*: When the ritual is complete, the world reverts to the same world in the START(1). But in this world only B and C appears. A and D do not exist**.

- START(2): We begin back in the "TOWN." B and C appear in the town and interact. A and D do not appear together with B and C. There is no minion of the evil power(s). There is no QUEST.

**Note**
At START(2) and afterwards, the characters A, B, C, and D have no memories of what happened during START(1), QUEST, THE END, and REVERT PHASE. THEIR MINDS ARE ERASED.
The exception is they they could have a glimpse of a flashback of what happened or of a particular "sacrificed" character if they see something significant about that event or character. (i.e. a particular sword might have some significance with some event or "sacrificed" character, and the "living" character might get a flashback, feel some emotion well up, or feel nostalgic.)

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*REVERT PHASE is just a placeholder that represents the transition from THE END to START(2).

** They could exist, but are technically not the same people as they were before. They could have reincarnated somewhere else on the planet. For example, we can have another RP where B is searching for someone. This someone is embedded in some memories deep within B's mind, but B does not know who that someone really is. B continues searching and comes into contact with A. Then B adds up all the pieces together and finally concludes that the person he is looking for is A. It is A that had been in is mind.

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Okay, now for the "previous lives" issue, which I know you guys have some doubts about. Mostly about the fact that your characters have lived some super long time and are immune to Alzheimer’s disease or your characters are a type of supernatural being that can't die, right? I have an answer.

Since all of our characters had gone through the same cycle, this could have happened in the same or different lifetime. All that matters is that the characters get together again in the same group. Look at Diagram A once again. We could say that START(1) could actually be START(5) or even START(15798).

Now look at Diagram B, below. The cycle continues with the same characters from START(2) and ends with a START(3). The characters from START(2) meet up at a CITY. They go through the process, then they end up at START(3) at the same CITY as in START(2).

We could keep going on and on...Changing different elements in the story/RP.

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(Diagram B)

[b]- THE CYCLE CONTINUES: A and D are reincarnated in a different place but a in the same timeline parallel to characters B and C.

- START(2):We have characters A, B, C, and D. They meet at the "CITY" and form a group. A-B forms a pair and C-D forms a pair. They fight a minion of the evil power(s).

- QUEST: The characters fight through the quest etc etc etc.

- THE END: A, B, C, and D fight and defeat the evil power(s). When it comes to the sacrificing part, B and C wish to be the sacrifices.

- REVERT PHASE: When the ritual is complete, the world reverts to the same world in the START(2). But in this world only A and D appears. B and C do not exist.

- START(3): We begin back in the "CITY." A and D appear in the town and interact. B and C do not appear together with A and D. There is no minion of the evil power(s). There is no QUEST.
-Noir-
30-07-2005, 17:51
anyone???
Staggering drunks
30-07-2005, 18:20
Erm......can we start now? :p
-Noir-
30-07-2005, 18:34
sure sure...im just about to post the thread on NS


what is your instant messenger SN, my AIM SN is aegis00010, if you have any questions, just IM me - or just IM because you dont have any questions and want to know when to post
-Noir-
30-07-2005, 22:03
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434991

the link the link! there's the link! just continue posting as if you were continuing to post in Destiny.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
31-07-2005, 02:46
ooc: damn my last post took forever!!!
-Noir-
31-07-2005, 06:15
Hype, you're starting from the beginning? i thought we were still going to leave off at where we left off in Destiny. You were attacked right? And you were killed, sort of. The "commotion" and all the screaming and yelling concerns where we left off in Destiny.
Arc-Laos
31-07-2005, 13:12
Nations of the Orbis Animi RP,

With great respect and the least intrusion possible The Republic of Arc-Laos would like to ask for approval to join your Orbis Animi RP. I have read all the unfortunate events that have gone on before restarting the storyline of the previous "Destiny" story. Arc-Laos would suggestively serve greatly in refreshing this new story and adding new characters to the continuation of the Destiny story in Orbis Animi. This RP was introduced to me by the nation of -Noir- and he has communicated to me that it would be fine to join.

Respectfully With Gratitude,
Arc-Laos
-Noir-
31-07-2005, 17:25
Arc! you copied my sig! err you! ~~~~~~~~

Post your character and some background info.

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dont worry guys...arc writes pretty well, save for a few grammar mistakes.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
01-08-2005, 00:48
Hype, you're starting from the beginning? i thought we were still going to leave off at where we left off in Destiny. You were attacked right? And you were killed, sort of. The "commotion" and all the screaming and yelling concerns where we left off in Destiny.

You've GOT to be fucking kidding! So my last post which took eons is useless? Well, you had a different character and tents and shit and that had nothing to do with where we left off when we were all at the villiage I was protecting... There was no Faylin! I think I need a little more instruction.

This is starting to become irritating. We start where I got shot, Angelus used up too much power healing me, Aramil healed me also and The elf guy (forgot his name) is there also.

Then who the hell is Faylin and this tent shit? A new char? And what about the two kids AtG was playing? Someone help me out here.....
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
01-08-2005, 00:50
someone Explain This To Me... Where Are We, What's The Deal With The Couples, Who Are The New People, Blah Blah Blah....!
-Noir-
01-08-2005, 02:14
I had a different character because I said I was going to create a second one. I am going to continue using Azazel as one of the bad guys. I am not going to use Mazer because his story revovled around interacting with AtG's character.

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I'm sorry if you're irritated. DO YOU WANT TO start from the very beginning? Start out before meeting other character's like Caladonn's Theao's Stag's and other people's (if I left anyone out) characters?

I don't want to get into a fight with you, and I especially don't want you leaving simply from an arguement like this. So what do you propose? Start from the very beginning, or start where we left off in Destiny?

Starting off from Destiny made it easier for our old characters because they do not need any introductions. At the same time, the current situation still isn't closed up already where no more people can join the RP. This "commotion" in the small town could give the incentive for other people's character's to be able to interact with the old characters. A new person in the RP could simply write that their character "heard about the fight," "heard about some magic being used in town," etc. Starting from the very beginning would negate that advantage. Most people would have to start from "Hi, i'm so and so, who are you?"

I hope new people will come and join. I want more people to join this RP, because the more the merrier. But of course we need to make sure that they're dedicated and can write. Dedication is the key.

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Once we get started, once we get everyone into the RP and truly finalize the group that will be questing through the entirety of the RP, then my plan was for the characters to start forming and entering cliques that made them unique from the rest of the group. Examples of possible cliques could be that two people fight well together, two people were rivals, two people could be siblings, two people had a specific trait and they became friends, two people could fall in love, two people might have similar tastes, two people might have similar opinions, two people might have similar or the same fighting skills, two people might have the same parents, two people might have the same whatever. The combinations might be endless. Having each of the character pair off will enable the RPers to be more easily focus in on creating detailed posts how characters in a pair interact. This is good in preventing characters that might be left out or ignored by a group (like your situation, Hype, in that "Fall to Rise" thread where you were almost entirely ignored by the other RPers. I technically joined up with Theao, as the main person my character would interact with.) Since this would theoretically make it easier to create more detailed posts, we do not have to worry much about having the quality of the RP sag so much that we are reduced to "one-liners." This RP is supposed to be of good quality posts, an enjoyable read, and enjoyment for the RPers. Having characters ignored would alienate RPers and make it less enjoyable.

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On a side note, Hype, I don't want you running off again saying that you've had a bad experience RPing. That it was unenjoyable and stressful. What I am saying does not only regard Hype, but everyone else in this RP and who will possibly be joining. I want to have a fun time RPing. I want others to RP with me. I want them to have fun as well. I do not want anyone being left out and alienated in an RP that is for everyone's enjoyment. Also, I do not want to repeat what I said earlier...

Hmmm...This is bad...We lost another one.

Men, we gotta get Hype back, again! We cannot suffer another loss from this thread. We need to convince Hype to come back, at least for this RP. She left because the people in some Paradise Club thread were being poor sports (methinks).

I know each one of us would do our best to encourage each other when they are feeling down and feel like giving up on NS. So we must do our part now and bring Hype back to the true RolePlaying Forums, NS and II! We cannot let a couple of stubborn people scare away and ruin the fun for our fellow RPers!

Who is with me???

Remember that this is one of, or the only thread, which has been started by AtG, that has survived this far. Remember how we have discussed preventing this RP from dying while its creator is away. Remember that we can keep this RP safe from dying. Then resurrecting it when AtG comes back, and continue RPing as if she never left. We can only accomplish this if we stay in contact with each other and do not waver from our goal.

I ask again! Who is with me?

We're supposed to encourage each other and make this RP fun. I know I am going to make fun of Arc Laos and tease him. But I am also going to help him out with his RPing.

Finally I want this RP to live. I want it to survive. I want it to be near perfection. I want to see it through to the end. I want to see it as one of the both rare and few RPs that get labeled as one of NS's best. I will do almost everything in my abilities allocated for NS RPing to keep this RP, no this story, alive. If people leave, then I'll create new characters and continue, or I'll ask those people why they might be leaving and keep asking them to stay. In the worst possible event of someone leaving, their characters will be (with their permission) allocated to another RPer, or myself. If the RP starts to slow down, possibly because of RL concerns, then that's life, I can't do anything about influencing your RL obligations. But I can make sure I know how to contact you to remind you of this RP. I myself, or others, can always go off into a side story that would at best have little to do with interaction with the entire group, but would be used for character development. I created my character Faylin with the possibility of having a long background story for this purpose, mainly character development, but if the time comes i'll use this to keep the RP going. If this RP comes to a standstill, we'll sit down, or settle down in an OOC thread, and discuss what to do next. We'll create a quasi-storyboard to guide what we could and will do next. Half the fun of RPing is actually the OOC, discussing it with other RPers and find out what to do next and what to change and improve.

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I'ved listed up all my reasons that had come to mind just now why I want to RP to keep going. Why I want to and work so hard to make this a good RP. I could possibly think up of more, but I don't want burden any of you with more than just the basics. I hope some of you guys got something out of this speech, or are inspired by it.
-Noir-
01-08-2005, 03:37
You've GOT to be fucking kidding! So my last post which took eons is useless? Well, you had a different character and tents and shit and that had nothing to do with where we left off when we were all at the villiage I was protecting... There was no Faylin! I think I need a little more instruction.

This is starting to become irritating. We start where I got shot, Angelus used up too much power healing me, Aramil healed me also and The elf guy (forgot his name) is there also.

Then who the hell is Faylin and this tent shit? A new char? And what about the two kids AtG was playing? Someone help me out here.....

You could always change the name and tweak some of the minor details to create a new character. Then maybe our characters might run into each other on the way to the town.
Staggering drunks
01-08-2005, 10:27
Ah right, so I should post in a continuation of Angelus from the last thread (Slightly sprained wing etc etc)
-Noir-
01-08-2005, 17:18
yes...unless you guys want to do something else...

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im guessing you guys all want to start from the beginning...
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
02-08-2005, 01:53
Whoa, Noir! You took that post of mine WAY too seriously. I was laughing when I wrote it. *sigh.

That's fine if we start where we left off. That's better. I just kind of need to know who new characters are...

It's that you started off w/a new character, so I thought we were supposed to start over.

I'm cool w/anything....

That's the problem w/puters... you can't hear voice inflection. :p
-Noir-
02-08-2005, 05:41
Whoa, Noir! You took that post of mine WAY too seriously. I was laughing when I wrote it. *sigh.

That's fine if we start where we left off. That's better. I just kind of need to know who new characters are...

It's that you started off w/a new character, so I thought we were supposed to start over.

I'm cool w/anything....

That's the problem w/puters... you can't hear voice inflection. :p

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Uh...How can you not take something with HUGE letters like this not seriously, and especially a post with an obscene word mixed in with it. both'll be sure to attract attention.

Why don't you have like a twin...like a Karasu version 2.0...Version 1.0 was in the town and was the one attacked. We wouldn't want that post of yours that took "eons" to create be a waste. Just tweak it and probably make a new character.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
02-08-2005, 22:29
I'd rather continue as my own character if that's OK. Are we starting where we left off then?

It looks like you're trying to start something. Just don't. You really did misinterpret my post.

Why don't we just start where we left off? I was just confused because the first post was a different character elsewhere, so I thought we were starting over completely.

So, can we just start where we left off? If that's OK with everyone??

Noir, post on here and let me know.

BTW, I may not be able to post for a couple days...
-Noir-
02-08-2005, 22:48
Starting where we left off. I'm fine with that.

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But I'm still going to add Faylin to the group.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
03-08-2005, 01:30
I think it's great adding other characters. I just didn't know that's what you were doing because you started with her.

If I offended you with my posts, I'm sorry. I guess you had to be here to see that GIANT letters and all, it was all in fun. Things can get so confused when all you can do is read. OK, so I'm healing, but fast, because of the dragon thing and Angelus and Aramil used their healing powers. We don't know who shot me, or why, because no one knows that I am the gold and black dragon, but AtG suggested that it could be because I am an assassin/shinobi/protector who may get in the way of their plans....
-Noir-
03-08-2005, 04:20
Eh, no problem. Now that that's cleared up, let's continue with the RP.

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Caladonn, where ever you are, your turn to reply. I tweaked it a little from the last time I posted it back in Destiny.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
06-08-2005, 02:22
I was liking where this was going. Can we incorporate what happened in the new thread (it's short enough) into Destiny?

Someone ought to tell everyone what is going on...

AtG... I'm still interested in Changes, if you are OK with me continuing...
Please TG me.
-Noir-
06-08-2005, 04:13
Yea...Guys, I know this might sound strict...I don't want to be mean or anything...But, little less on the short posts...Put some life into it.

Sorry...This is just me thinking aloud.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
06-08-2005, 17:56
Yea...Guys, I know this might sound strict...I don't want to be mean or anything...But, little less on the short posts...Put some life into it.

Sorry...This is just me thinking aloud.


Fine, but there will be far fewer posts from me. I have a shitload going on here. I can't get caught up. I'll post, but not as often, unless I happen to have a glut of time.

Theao is used to short conversational posts that continue quickly, I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong Theao.)

I'm the queen of the uberlong post, but it won't be as often. I thought better some response than none at all...

This is me typing aloud again.. :P

(You have no idea what shit I have going on... so much that I can't get caught up on phone calls, even. That's why I can't write a novel at this point. Unlike you, I'm not a student. I don't have the free time I had a month ago!) Sorry, it's either slightly short posts, or very sporadic posts. I'll stick with sporadic for now, as at least I can keep myself in the story until I can manage a longer post.

Welcome back Amanda!!!! We didn't think you were coming back! :D

BTW, Noir... Hope your feet are better ;D
-Noir-
06-08-2005, 18:09
Ok ok...i get it...it's not a problem

i said "if possible" (well, probably not in my previous OOC post, but in the IC)
Staggering drunks
07-08-2005, 11:30
Ah right. A mind block. So noone can read her mind. Does she have anything like bazooka cybernetic implants under her wings for air to air combat? Stainless steel claws so they can shred poeple easier? Or perhaps ice breath was on a special. I mean does this dragon woman have any weaknesses? She was going to be the most powerful dragon in the world until someone said no to it. I'm all for strong charactors but it's also fun to have your character get beaten up once in a while. Look at mine, mine are getting beaten black and blue latley. So I beg of you Hype, no more powers!
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
07-08-2005, 11:50
Ah right. A mind block. So noone can read her mind. Does she have anything like bazooka cybernetic implants under her wings for air to air combat? Stainless steel claws so they can shred poeple easier? Or perhaps ice breath was on a special. I mean does this dragon woman have any weaknesses? She was going to be the most powerful dragon in the world until someone said no to it. I'm all for strong charactors but it's also fun to have your character get beaten up once in a while. Look at mine, mine are getting beaten black and blue latley. So I beg of you Hype, no more powers!

I do have Ice breath... that was used already... the only reason I came up with the mind block is so no one can read my mind and know my duality. That's all...
Beaten black and blue! I was just shot for God's sake! Have YOU been shot??
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
07-08-2005, 12:13
Well Stag, just for you, I'll skip the fusion bombs. ;P
-Noir-
07-08-2005, 17:02
Let's see...since i cant really post anything yet (except more background for faylin) since Caladonn is MIA...i'll just bug you guys...

On the weaknesses topic, I guess I say (or suggest) that Azazal can seduce Karasu 'cause he's a vampire! haha, keep that in mind for future conflicts. Then we can always have the knight (or half-angel) come riding in to save the day.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
08-08-2005, 01:11
Works for me....

But remember who just got shot through with an arrow! I think my character has a few weaknesses. She would have died if Aramil and Angelus hadn't given her life energy. :P
-Noir-
08-08-2005, 23:42
im going to post, just watch...and wait...and keep waiting...just wait...


and where's caladonn?
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
09-08-2005, 00:08
Noir, just TG Caladonn. Perhaps he isn't going to finish this. But no one will know if no one contacts him. So TG HIM!!! :D
-Noir-
09-08-2005, 00:34
hmmmm...
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
09-08-2005, 01:15
Waiting for that novel of a post..... :D
-Noir-
09-08-2005, 06:20
heh...you want a novel, i'll make it a novel...

but it'll be a shame if i have to spill faylin's entire background story all at once...i could introduce another character to the fold...we'll see...
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
10-08-2005, 00:23
You don't have to spill everything about her... I'm just on your ass because you said that our posts were too short! ;P
Caladonn
11-08-2005, 14:44
Oh, man! I didn't realise everyone was mad about my going away. Sorry. I'll get a long post in tonight.
Staggering drunks
11-08-2005, 15:16
Er, yea, I gotta go for a week on holiday soon too. Not the PERFECT time, but hey. :rolleyes:
Caladonn
11-08-2005, 21:03
Well, have a nice time.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
11-08-2005, 23:44
Er, yea, I gotta go for a week on holiday soon too. Not the PERFECT time, but hey. :rolleyes:

You make it sound like going on vacation is a BAD thing. *shakes head* I'd kill to go on vacation right now!!!!!
-Noir-
12-08-2005, 00:06
i have writer's block...im at a spot where Faylin enters one of the taverns in the town...now what?

im stuck for ideas...someone help me out please...
Caladonn
12-08-2005, 03:23
Well, it looks like you have it now, with her getting beat up. Seems like a good idea.

Also, now that Karasu seems to have paired up with Angelus, it looks like I'm left with Theao, or your character, Noir. :D

Any ideas on how we could work this out?
-Noir-
12-08-2005, 07:26
the beat up part was a flash back...

hey, caladonn, why dont you have your character meet up with faylin, just probably add in your post that you went to a local tavern...

i actually have like a page long post ready to put online, but im still lacking a few elements to be able to post it...i am practically stuck at "faylin walked into a tavern..." that's the gist of what i have written...so if any characters want to interact, just post that you entered a tavern and sat at an empty table or stall. then i can post

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added a few seconds after posting above...

forgot...i could also respond to caladonn's...i can also put that faylin walked into a tavern and sat down and maybe one of you could come by also. or vice versa, you arrive first and faylin arrives second, up to you...i can make two versions.
Staggering drunks
12-08-2005, 11:14
No fears, I can make somthing of it. I'll post now.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
12-08-2005, 15:10
i have writer's block...im at a spot where Faylin enters one of the taverns in the town...now what?

im stuck for ideas...someone help me out please...

I was going to say: Have her order a drink! :p
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
12-08-2005, 15:24
<snip>

Also, now that Karasu seems to have paired up with Angelus, it looks like I'm left with Theao, or your character, Noir. :D

Any ideas on how we could work this out?


Well Yeah! You're GAY!!! :D
-Noir-
12-08-2005, 18:49
wait!!!!!!!!! staggering drunks, i havent posted that faylin was in the tavern yet!!!!!!!! that whole previous one with the beating up thing was a FLASHBACK!!!! (ie. no one's supposed to know about her dark past yet etc etc...like supposedly no one supposed to know karasu is part dragon)


hehe...i think i screwed something up, the order isnt right...lets see if we can make amends...i'll just post what i have

...get online...AIM or something "aegis00010"

i post now ack!!!
Staggering drunks
12-08-2005, 20:08
Oh *Unprintable*, sorry, I've been misreading alot of stuff in my RP's latley :headbang: :(
My bad. Oh, by the way, people call me Stag because they got tired of typing out the whole name :D
Caladonn
12-08-2005, 20:14
It's Ok, Stag, that's what I thought too. And some people seem to be calling me 'Cal' lately. :D

Oh, Hyper! That's funny. :p Not what I had in mind, and with a half-demon, kinda unrealistic, but great all the same. I'll have Aramil come to the bar, then.

Could it be possible Faylin visited the Collegiate Arcane in Caladonn years ago with her parents, and Aramil remembers it? That might be good.
-Noir-
12-08-2005, 23:34
i think the forum ate up the post i was going to post...i was afk for a long time...

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caladonn, i gotta talk to you about azazel and aramil
Caladonn
13-08-2005, 03:57
Talk away. We're both on, and I am for another half hour. Also, do you have AIM? My SN is (Surprise surprise) Aramil799.
-Noir-
13-08-2005, 04:33
ok...i need you guys to supply some bad guys for me...i'm going to add it to my most recent post

[summary]

Azazel meets up with the "council"

The council is a collection of bad guys that are sort of like the bosses we'll be fighting.

But the main thing that must be included is that each character needs to have some dark past in them. These council members could be anyone, as long as they have some dark past that will make them feel malicious or anger towards the earth/people/society and make them want to destroy/rule whatever they are angry against. But we'll get to the details of that later.

Example:

Character A could be a scholar, but he was persecuted and thrown out of society because of his beliefs. (His beliefs could have even been good, but were contradictory to his society he lived in.)

Character B could be an innocent person who was simply manipulated or used by society.

Character C could be someone who had to kill in order to protect someone, but was then forced to endure some tremendous pain or suffering at the hands of society.

Character D could be a religious person, but was abandoned by their god. Their feelings could have spawned from being caught in a war or plague.

Character E could be someone who simply lost a loved one. One reason could be war. Another reason could be slavery. Etc Etc

Character F could have been humiliated or shunned because of a failure or something.

[[the character basically needs to be some outcast of some sort...it's like the character versus society type of bad guy.]]

Another Example:

Azazel, could be someone like Character C. He could have done something to protect Aramil from harm or something, but for that he was forced to forfeit his soul or life or something to some greater evil.

I'm still working on it, but I am asking you guys now because I don't want to leave you guys out, nor do I want to be the only one RPing the bad guys.

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oh yea, dont delve into faylin's past too much, i've got something planned for her. (no one currently knows her true past, the reason behind that will come up later in the RP)

and maybe i should mark flashbacks or something...type it in italics, or change the color...

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to stag change your post...please

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i dont think faylin looks that impoverished. her clothes may look old, but they're well kept and she doesnt look dirty or anything. not like a homeless person you'd see on the streets. she'll look like any regular person, she has a tidy appearance and washes and makes sure her face is clean and stuff, but the clothes may look like it was a hand-me-down or something

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i smell popcorn...*wanders off leaving Microsoft Word running with an unfinished post*
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
15-08-2005, 19:15
ok...i need you guys to supply some bad guys for me...i'm going to add it to my most recent post

[summary]

Azazel meets up with the "council"

The council is a collection of bad guys that are sort of like the bosses we'll be fighting.

But the main thing that must be included is that each character needs to have some dark past in them. These council members could be anyone, as long as they have some dark past that will make them feel malicious or anger towards the earth/people/society and make them want to destroy/rule whatever they are angry against. But we'll get to the details of that later.

Example:

Character A could be a scholar, but he was persecuted and thrown out of society because of his beliefs. (His beliefs could have even been good, but were contradictory to his society he lived in.)

Character B could be an innocent person who was simply manipulated or used by society.

Character C could be someone who had to kill in order to protect someone, but was then forced to endure some tremendous pain or suffering at the hands of society.

Character D could be a religious person, but was abandoned by their god. Their feelings could have spawned from being caught in a war or plague.

Character E could be someone who simply lost a loved one. One reason could be war. Another reason could be slavery. Etc Etc

Character F could have been humiliated or shunned because of a failure or something.

[[the character basically needs to be some outcast of some sort...it's like the character versus society type of bad guy.]]

Another Example:

Azazel, could be someone like Character C. He could have done something to protect Aramil from harm or something, but for that he was forced to forfeit his soul or life or something to some greater evil.

I'm still working on it, but I am asking you guys now because I don't want to leave you guys out, nor do I want to be the only one RPing the bad guys.

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oh yea, dont delve into faylin's past too much, i've got something planned for her. (no one currently knows her true past, the reason behind that will come up later in the RP)

and maybe i should mark flashbacks or something...type it in italics, or change the color...

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to stag change your post...please

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i dont think faylin looks that impoverished. her clothes may look old, but they're well kept and she doesnt look dirty or anything. not like a homeless person you'd see on the streets. she'll look like any regular person, she has a tidy appearance and washes and makes sure her face is clean and stuff, but the clothes may look like it was a hand-me-down or something

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i smell popcorn...*wanders off leaving Microsoft Word running with an unfinished post*

I have a potential bad guy (girl) I'll play. (I haven't named her yet.) When she was in her teens, she had to work in a brothel to support her family and when it was no longer necessary, society still looked down on her even though she became highly educated and was a leading authority on herbs (and some other junk). She is still shunned by society and although much more intelligent and educated, still called "whore" and such by everyone.
-Noir-
15-08-2005, 20:05
I'll leave Faylin asleep for awhile whilst I wait for a few more bad guy/girl applicants.

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Hype,

For your bad girl - villian - what is her personality and other specifics? Of if you guys want, we can just RP out the intro part for the villians.

Basically, Azazel is back in the "headquarters" and then we are introduced to the other villians. Then we can just switch back to the good guys again and continue.

"Orochi" how's that as the name of the villians? I thought it would be better than saying "council" or "high council."

*Orochi - the actual name of the villians from one of the RP's main references.

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Caladonn (and others),

Faylin will usually fall asleep like this and stay in this near death state. Think of this like a sickness/illness. When she wakes up, she'll say it's a standstill and she's had that since she was very little. Then she'll say more info about it later.

Also, no mental probing, because if you try, you'll enter into a standstill yourself and won't be able to get out (supposedly). If you try to mental probe her, the effect would be that you feel an immense rush of depression come all over you. Then you begin to feel light headed and your vision begins to blur. Finally you start to loss consciousness. But of course, you guys catch yourself and stop mental probing the little girl.

*Note* this is because I do not want all the characters to find out about her past and suddenly feel sorry for her and start giving her stuff and treating her like a kid (even though she probably still counts as one). No babying! I want a sort of mystery to hang around her. Something that makes her different.

Sort of like how Hype didn't want anyone to know Karasu was a dragon.
Theao
15-08-2005, 20:33
Is anyone going to read the note Khevit left and go looking for him, possibly Faylin.
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
15-08-2005, 21:13
I think Stag neglected to mention he is gone for a week and won't be able to post. So I just left him at the pub... didn't know what else to do... The idea that Angelus is at a pub for a week thinking is a bit odd, but it's a major issue to think over, and he has to make the decision, or maybe he does, but maybe we could kind of put him in a pretend "suspended animation" until he gets back. As if not much time passed or something... I don't know.

Stag, poor baby had to go on VACATION to SPAIN. whaaaaaaa.... *sobs* I always feel bad for people who HAVE to go on vacation/holiday... :p

BTW, Noir, you said Azazel was a vampire who could seduce Karasu and that would be one of her weaknesses. I just thought I'd mention it, since "Villian C" sounded funny~ :P
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
15-08-2005, 22:29
Also, Cal and everyone, remember, not even the bad guys know I'm also a dragon. Only Angelus because I told him. So the for them to want me dead has to be for some other reason... Someone suggested just for my strength and defensive skills.

Perhaps they can sense something is "different" about me, however they can't make a guess that I'm the Black and Gold dragon...
-Noir-
15-08-2005, 23:20
everyone still in the RP should go into a flashback or something, while they sleep probably

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theao:

faylin is asleep at the moment, where's your character anyways? what's the story?
Theao
15-08-2005, 23:24
My character is meditating in the woods. He left a sign on a tree in the village square saying the direction he was in.
Caladonn
15-08-2005, 23:41
I know that no one knows, except Angelus now. You have to understand that Aramil asking if Karasu knows any reason why they would want to kill her is just a natural question; it's not in any way directed at her secret identity.

However, this does mean we need to think of another way the High Council would want you destroyed. I don't think simply that you're a good fighter and you are defending a small village is enough. Perhaps there is an ancient artifact in the village or something? Perhaps it is the only place with a portal to another plane/dimension?
Theao
16-08-2005, 00:14
Do they really need a complex reason, couldn't it be that Karasu snubbed one of them when they hit on her(when drunk) or some 'simpler' reason
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
16-08-2005, 01:19
Why not just that they sense something strange that they don't understand and feel it may be a threat but don't know why?

Since we're all going to be playing an evil mage as well, we'll have to know what the master plan is.

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What do you mean we should all go into a flashback???? I don't get it... Why? Just for some background info??
-Noir-
16-08-2005, 08:28
Uhhh...im just suggesting...i'd do that since we wouldn't want to leave anyone behind...im not telling you/ordering you to do anything...faylin is asleep...and probably good timing since we're missing stag...im going to have to work on some of the villians/orochi

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the bad guys are not just after karasu, but will be after all of the good characters...they know that we're the chosen group that would be destined to defeat them. attacking karasu was just one attempt to stop the good guys, they'll be more. it might be that the orochi know more about this than do the good guys at the moment.

(just another suggesting *note* - if anyone wants to pose another alternative, let them do so)

they might go after faylin next, since she's sleeping...*hint hint* (anyone with another orochi character made up can step up to the bat...)
Kuroi Hiryuu Joouheika
19-08-2005, 22:09
Boo! (Just posted that so I could see when someone else posted.) :D