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Is it acceptable to use fantasy creatures when roleplaying as armies of the past i.e. to use pegausi riders to compensate for the lack of air force when facing nations of the present or future. ???? :confused: :confused:

If Roleplayed Well... sure, go ahead, but if it isn't realistic (As realistic as fantasy can get) and agreed upon by both sides... it will probobly get ignored.

You can use whatever everyone in the RP agrees to. That said no magical beast would be of any use against airplanes. You might be able to use your Pegasi riders to drive off enemy hot-air balloons, but that's about it.

If I was playing past tech/fantasy and wanted air units I'd go with airships of some nature, personally, possibly gliders too. That said you'd still be screwed against airplanes.

As the others have stated, creatures of fantastical origin can most definitely be used, as long as the other side understands your military, and accepts them as legitimate.

Read the following link to get an idea of my own military makeup. Keep in mind that it's been a while since I've updated it, so it is a bit inaccurate, but still, it should help you get an idea of how to go about it.

Tarlachian War Machine (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7956331&postcount=4)

You may want to read this as well to understand the true strength of the military makeup:

Tarlachian Cultures (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7603670&postcount=2)

Good luck!

If you want to face modern or future military - choose dragons or flying wizards. Fireballs, Invisibility, Fly, Meteor Storm and other such powerful spells could easly "surprise" arrogant modernists ;).

I'm a modern nation BUT when I play pan'n'paper RPs I use a rule that if some creature or person has a magic defense (for example that only magic weaponry can hurt it) - no modern or future weaponry can damage it. For game purposes you can assume that your dragons will be as good as enemy vechicles. That's just my opinion and I don't know how others would react.

If you want to face modern or future military - choose dragons or flying wizards. Fireballs, Invisibility, Fly, Meteor Storm and other such powerful spells could easly "surprise" arrogant modernists ;).

They would say 'ignored.' Especially if you're just choosing those things to beat them.

I'm a modern nation BUT when I play pan'n'paper RPs I use a rule that if some creature or person has a magic defense (for example that only magic weaponry can hurt it) - no modern or future weaponry can damage it.

Wouldn't work in Nationstates. What if your enemy has no magical weapons to hand? Haven't you just wanked yourself invincible?

For game purposes you can assume that your dragons will be as good as enemy vechicles. That's just my opinion and I don't know how others would react.

A dragon is NECESSARILY limited in speed by the fact that it moves by flapping its wings, limited in armament by it's ability to prevent its breath from dispersing [try making a coherent beam of fire that flies like a missile, tracks like a missile and damages like a missile without screwing up whatever source you're using for dragons] limited by needing to be fed and housed somewhere, and depending on your source, possibly limited by needing an enormous heap of gold to sleep on.

If you make your dragons into fighter planes just to beat your enemy, you're worse than they are. You have no consistancy and your nation just exists to shout 'I'M EXACTLY AS POWERFUL AS YOU!' when you get invaded. Which is silly.

I believe that if all sides find it acceptible for the RP, then it is fine, though there are limits. Being a beginning Fantasy Tech nation myself, I mostly use past technology and weapons combined with supernatural elements such as reanimation, worm-dragons, and of course magic,but not on a huge scale that annhilates entire armies (not usually, anyway. It would be the equivalent of a nuke, but not something I personally would like to use.)

A dragon is NECESSARILY limited in speed by the fact that it moves by flapping its wings, limited in armament by it's ability to prevent its breath from dispersing [try making a coherent beam of fire that flies like a missile, tracks like a missile and damages like a missile without screwing up whatever source you're using for dragons] limited by needing to be fed and housed somewhere, and depending on your source, possibly limited by needing an enormous heap of gold to sleep on.

If you make your dragons into fighter planes just to beat your enemy, you're worse than they are. You have no consistancy and your nation just exists to shout 'I'M EXACTLY AS POWERFUL AS YOU!' when you get invaded. Which is silly.

Agreed with the dragon bit. However, a dragon would have more agility, and can be quite devastating to infantry troops if they are caught unprepared. With my own military, the dragons are not armored (except by their own scales, which are quite hardy themselves), but they can still be taken down by many types of weaponry. And yes, they require care and feeding. The piles of gold are not included at all in my nation (kinda stupid really...wouldn't you think the gov't would be taking that gold?)

My nation actually uses around 65% of mechanical/non-fantasy military forces. The other 35% is normally kept within the borders, but sometimes sent internationally. As times wears on, the fantasy military will still be present, but the majority of any battle scene is still going to be dominated by mechanical means. I've been working on a way to fuse some of the mechs with the arcane, in such a way that they could still be taken out by non-arcanic forces. ie: shields.

All in all, the fantasy-based stuff is more to make my military stand out from the millions of others militaries out there in NS.

They would say 'ignored.' Especially if you're just choosing those things to beat them.
I agree on that magic defense thing. I was using it in different, multi-verse D&D setting. It doesn't fit here.
But IF I have fantasy armies - what is strange in Meteor Storm or Fireball? They aren't more powerful then Nuclear Weaponry but... Why Magical Shield cannot protect fantasy city from total destruction?
Just open any chart of high-level, uber-spells.
In literature there are tons of examples on how most-powerful wizards united to fight some evil god himself... Why some skilled wizards cannot teleport on DeathStar and destroy it? I see nothing wrong in that...
Magical shields and offensive spells could be easly as deadly as many modern or future tech... Why not? It's fantasy or not?