"Lessons Learned" (AMW only)
Summary - Naval/Air Forces
By General Zhang Fu Guo
During the Second Chinese Civil War, Taiwanese military analysts sat on the sidelines, observing the tactics and equipment of both sides as they fought one another. Further research into the Chinese military forces and the Hualien reclaimation found several weaknesses and shortcomings, which are addressed in this "Lessons Learnt" report -
- A lack of international power projection capabilities
- An obselete ABM system
- Lack of a significant sea-based nuclear deterrent
- Lack of insurgency control tactics against non-Chinese
- Insufficient naval aviation transports
- "Golden Fish Syndrome" , Reluctance to deploy superior naval assets
- Insufficient shallow water/littoral combat capabilities
- Complete lack of autonomously controlled aircraft
- Non-existant anti-stealth homeland security systems
More detailed recommendations will be released within two weeks.
OOC: By two weeks, I mean tomorrow.
Summary: Army and Paramilitary Forces
by Gen. Liu Tong Zhong
The Sinoese Army may be amongst the best in the world, but certainly not the best yet. The operation has been declared a success, but more needs to be done. The following are some commendations:
- 70 rd. drums for assault rifles.
- Deployment of the Stapapol for public security and patrols, leaving the Army to continue their assault.
- Psychological effects on the enemy inflicted by napalm.
- Elements of surprise in the early massive artillery bombardment.
- Fanatical levels of brainwashing.
- Introduction of land-based CIWS.
- Deception by the media creating a false sense of superiority for the enemy.
- Conventional ballistic and cruise missiles inflicting damage on enemy infrastructure.
There is also weaknesses that need to be addressed:
- Lack of border screening. Anyone who is Chinese seems to have an easier time entering.
- Lack of clarification given to neighbores, allowing the enemy to gain moral support.
- Risk of possible coastal invasion by an ally of the enemy due to entire garrissons being emptied for the war effort.
(OOC: I'm currently busy, so this report's a work in progress.)
OOC: Preliminary figures for the ECN
8 Carrier fleets*
60-70 Cruisers
24 Arsenal ships
120 Ohio SSGN
40 Ohio SSBN
A few of the Han II SSN
400 Coastal Corvettes (Maybe LCV types?)
A WiG transport fleet?
Any suggestions? I'm not sure how many attack subs the ARSN has.
*Could include arsenal ships
OOC: Can we please replace them with Chinese designs? It'll boost nationalism, considering that our industries are also very capable. The ARSN has 10 Xia-II SSBNs, each carrying 20 JL-2 SLBM (modelled on the DF_31 ICBM). There is approx. 500 JH-15s in service, mostly on naval airbases and carriers. We have 2 carriers and 3 super carriers.
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http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/models/ships/HMS_Dreadnought/Turret%20Close%20In%202.jpg
Production now resumes with several unifinished hulls of the new battlecruisers. These ships had their developments halted due to the civil war, they are so new that their class has yet to be named. With the reshuffling of the navy's high command, their weapons suites have yet to be decided.
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Meanwhile, production of the Han-II nuclear attack subs continue, due to the much needed naval expansion.
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OOC: I am absolutely no good at names, so when I say "Ohio", assume I mean a Chinese type with similar capabilities.
Also, as all legal questions with LIDAR have been resolved, I've got something that will be more effective than AEGIS. I'll post more on it as I finish converting it for AMW use.
Is there really a need for nuclear attack subs? Aren' diesel ones cheaper and more quiet? SSGN and SSBN yes, but we really don't need it for SSNs.
To boost our carrier numbers to fill the eight carrier fleets, maybe some lighter types more similar to the British types. As we have an alternative to strike aircraft, our carriers can be smaller.
OOC: I am absolutely no good at names, so when I say "Ohio", assume I mean a Chinese type with similar capabilities.
Also, as all legal questions with LIDAR have been resolved, I've got something that will be more effective than AEGIS. I'll post more on it as I finish converting it for AMW use.
Is there really a need for nuclear attack subs? Aren' diesel ones cheaper and more quiet? SSGN and SSBN yes, but we really don't need it for SSNs.
To boost our carrier numbers to fill the eight carrier fleets, maybe some lighter types more similar to the British types. As we have an alternative to strike aircraft, our carriers can be smaller.
OOC: Diesel ones are always cheaper and can be built quicker. They're only effective for coastal patrol though. There's one Yuan class Chinese SSGN that we can mass produce as well as it is also diesel powered.
Tag along. Note that the Xiannese Navy, Army, and Airforce will be under Liu's control with the exception of the special forces.
Tag along. Note that the Xiannese Navy, Army, and Airforce will be under Liu's control with the exception of the special forces.
OOC: To simplify things, let the spec-ops be under the control of their branches, but I'm going to make so of the 'Army of Liu' the Imperial Guard. Let's not change the LJJ by name, but take their command directly to the Army.
Shenzhou – Littoral Combat Vessel (LCV)
Overview
Shenzhou LCV is a multi-role vessel capable of transversing shallow waters to counter potential "asymmetric" threats of coastal mines, quiet diesel submarines and the potential to carry explosives and terrorists on small, fast, armed boats. The LCV can be configured for Mine Countermeasures, Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW), attack, and anti-surface warfare.
Design Features
Dimensions
Length: 128m
Beam (Trimaran) : 28.4m
Draft: 3.3m
Height: 20.7m
Displacement: 3,000 tonnes
Powerplant and Propulsion
Two gas turbines and two diesel engines
Four acoustically optimized waterjets
Maximum speed of 40 knots
Cruise speed of 28 knots
Armament
RAM Launcher (8 missiles)
155mm Naval Gun
35 VLS cells
Armor
Deck: 1 inch (25mm)
Side hulls: 1 inch (25mm)
Main hull: 1 inch (25mm)
Bulkheads: 2 inches (50mm)
Systems
Chaff launchers
Encrypted Data link system
ECM/ECCM suite
Air search radar (120km)
Surface search radar
LASH (Littoral Airborne System Hyperspectral) module
Hull Sonar
Crew
12 enlisted
3 officers
Costs
$130 million construction cost
$160 million export price
$4m annual maintenance
$1m human resource costs
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Arsenal Ship
Overview
A moderate cost, high firepower demonstrator ship with low manning requirements. The Arsenal ship has the potential to provide substantial fire support to a variety of missions in regional conflicts without the logistics burden of transporting both delivery systems and ammunition to the shore and forward areas. It will carry a large number of VLS cells but without the expensive command and control equipment found on other vessels. The ships will receive their targeting along with command and decision information from other assets. Purchases of the arsenal ship will reduce reliance on expensive aircraft carriers.
VLS cells have 1.8m of space between each of them, reducing the possiblity of a chain reaction. The VLS are also armoured with 3 inches of armour and located in the secure main hull which is protected by the heavily armoured side hulls from ASCMs and are slightly depressed within the hull, allowing the fitting of eight slide-on armoured plates 8 inches thick. The cells are also filled with argon which serves to stifle combustion and fitted with fire extinguishment systems. RAM used to lower RCS.
Design Features
*Hardened VLS Cells
*Stealth
*EMP Protection
*Pebble Bed reactors
Dimensions
Length of main hull: 236m
Length of side hulls: 162m
Width at maximum beam: 56m
Draft: 10m
Height: 24m
Displacement: 30,000 tonnes
Powerplant and Propulsion
Two J-2 Pebble Bed Nuclear reactors for propulsion
Eight waterjets
Cruise speed of 30 knots
Maximum speed of 38 knots
Armament
550 Vertical Launch System Cells
Six RAM launchers (12 missiles)
Armor
Side Hull belt (14 degrees inclined): 4 inches (100mm)
Main Hull belt (12 degrees inclined): 3 inches (75mm)
Superstructure : 1 inchs (25mm)
Main deck : 3 inches (75mm)
Bulkheads : 6 inches (150mm)
Systems
Chaff launchers
Encrypted Data link system
ECM/ECCM suite
Crew
25 Enlisted
4 Officers
Costs
$1.6 billion construction cost
$1.8 billion export price
$20m annual maintenance
$1.44m human resource costs
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Air Defence Heavy Cruiser
Overview
It is designed to provide theatre air and ABM defence for allied fleets. Acting as an escort, the air defence heavy cruiser is designed to survive multiple hits from threats such as anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs) and still function effectively.
VLS cells have 1.8m of space between each of them, reducing the possiblity of a chain reaction. The VLS are also armoured with 3 inches of armour and located in the secure main hull which is protected by the heavily armoured side hulls from ASCMs and are slightly depressed within the hull, allowing the fitting of eight slide-on armoured plates 8 inches thick. The cells are also filled with argon which serves to stifle combustion and fitted with fire extinguishment systems. RAM used to lower RCS.
Dimensions
Length of main hull: 356m
Length of side hulls: 240m
Width at maximum beam: 88m
Draft: 12m
Height: 29m
Displacement: 84,000 tonnes
Powerplant and Propulsion
Four J-2 Pebble Bed Nuclear reactors for propulsion
One J-2 Pebble Bed reactors for power requirements
Fourteen waterjets
Cruise speed of 32 knots
Maximum speed of 38 knots
Armament
630 Vertical Launch System Cells
Forty RAM launchers (16 RAMs each)
Armor
Side Hull belt (12 degrees inclined): 20 inches (500mm)
Main Hull belt (12 degrees inclined): 12 inches (300mm)
Superstructure : 6 inches (150mm)
Main deck : 8 inches (200mm)
Bulkheads : 18 inches (450mm)
Systems
Four linked LPI Air Search Radars (4.8MW, 650km range against 1m^2 target)
One air Search LIDAR (400km range)
Surface Search Radar
Hyperspectral/IRST/LIDAR Detection Suite
ECM/ECCM suite
Chaff launchers
Hull Sonar
Towed array Sonar
Crew
75 enlisted
15 officers
Costs
$2.2 billion construction cost
$2.4 billion export price
$60m annual maintenance
$5.1m human resource costs
OOC: Relevant civilain aircraft. All ripped from my previous storefront. Any tech-period related problems? (esp the BWB)
S-900 WIG
http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume2/chap04/img00005.gif
An ultra-sized water take-off/landing airline designed to take advantage of the WIG effect, leading to almost 50% reduced drag and increased efficiency. The sheer size of the S-900 means that fuel use per passenger is much lower. The operating cost of each seat is a mere $75 across the Atlantic.
Length: 160m
Wingspan: 180m
Max Passengers (Economy): 3,000
Max Passengers (Business): 2,200
Max Cargo: 420 tonnes
Speed: 300 knots
Powerplant: Twelve MK-2 Ultra-High Bypass Turbofans
Thrust: 100,000 lbs
Cost: $600m
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**S-720 BWB**
http://www-sdb.larc.nasa.gov/Simulations/Simulators/VMS/blended2.gif
An true “Jumbo-jet” with unparalleled economy and passenger capacity. Use of new lightweight composite materials further reduces fuel consumption.
Length: 112m
Wingspan: 155m
Max Cargo: 800 tonnes
Speed: Mach 0.8
Powerplant: Ten MK3 UHB Turbofans
Thrust: 250,000 lbs
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S-200 ESTOL
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ru_aircraft_an72_01_s.jpg
A small cargo plane/airliner designed to take off from rough fields and short landing strips using engine layouts similar to the An-72. Suitable for landing in small inner-city airports without facilities for larger aircraft. For military uses, it can be configured for carrier landings.
Length: 36m
Wingspan: 43m
Max Passengers (Economy): 200
Max Passengers (Business): 120
Max Cargo: 20 tonnes
Speed: Mach 0.8
Powerplant: Two MK-2 Ultra-High Bypass Turbofans
Thrust: 65,000 lbs
Cost: $20m
OOC: Also, for the J-14, we'll just rip the Raptor specs, but with superior electronics (due to Murphy's Law). Now for relevant missiles - specs are availible, but there's really no point as much of the novel technology is removed.
(XF = Xiong (Hsieng in Wade Giles) Feng/Brave Wind naval missiles.)
XF-4 : Heavy supersonic low RCS anti-ship missile with pop-up (RL equivalent - Yakhont)
XF-5 : Subsonic stealth cruise missile with pop-up ASM variant (RL Maybe the Tomahawk with stealth?)
XF-6 : Light stealth cruise missile with pop-up (RL Stealthy Harpoon?)
XF-7 : Light supersonic missile (Penguin)
The combination of funding and ideas will prove that these concepts are more than just drawing board pieces. With the industrial capabilities of the Mainland and some of their engineering expertise, these designs will be more than just prototypes.