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With the aim of establishing common ground on several issues that have potential to cause controversy between the three Chinas, President Zhang has cordially invited his Sinoese and Xiannese counterparts to a conference to debate these issues, based in the politically neutral city of Taipei.

Each representative will be allowed to bring a delegation. There will be a two hour press release after the conference.

With no more than victory in our sights, Gen. Liu has decided to travel to Taipei with a delegation. Memories of the war are still fresh, the thought of seeing so many of his spotters killed during his seven years there only refreshed his sense of duty.

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It was very awkward for the veteran sniper as he was in the middle of an exercise when Zhang's announcement was made. Returning to his barrack, off came the Ghillie suit and BDUs; ceremonial uniforms must be in the peak of perfection. He would love to jump on the plane right this moment, but the face paint have yet to come off. One task raced against another, a delegation must be rounded up quickly.


(OOC: We should just RP that the SETs found Ye and the medics helped him to recovery.)

The Xiannese government will be sending Lady Wang, a former empress who abdicated at age 24. She was a supported figure by many because of her will to reestablish peace with Xiaguo's neighbors, but had abdicated due to the corrupt government and had decided that complete monarchy was not the right government which led to her uncle, a high ranking general in Nanjing to become emperor in which he started reforms within the government and had executed many for crimes which the government dare not investigate.

She will be heading several well known figures such as Minister of Domestic Issues: Wu Ze Min, Minister of Economics: Xia Guo Ying, and General Secretary of the Nation: Lady Li Li Shan.

"The last of warlords are expected to be killed and the remnants will disperse." said Lady Li Shan.



The delegation, dressed in ceremonial Soviet uniforms will arrive in Taipei.



OOC:there via next post.

As usual, hundreds turn up outside the conference in another Taiwanese indepedence protest. Although their fervour has not waned, their numbers have - a far cry from the tens of thousands from when Zhang first took power.

It was to be held at the familiar setting of the Taipei Presidential Palace, a large building symbolic of the island's economic prosperity, now repainted in more patriotic colours since the last time Liu had visited.

Police motorcades would escort both parties to the Presidential Palace.

She will be heading several well known figures such as Minister of Domestic Issues: Wu Ze Min, Minister of Economics: Xia Guo Ying, and General Secretary of the Nation: Lady Li Li Shan.

The delegation, dressed in ceremonial Soviet uniforms will arrive in Taipei.

OOC 1: Comfags wear Soviet uniforms.

OOC 2: Wasn't Wu considered a traitor (even by the South)?

Everytime Liu visits Taipei, it is always an honor to pay homage to the Chiang Kai-shek Memorial. Even since his days as a junior officer, he had repeated gone against the politics of the Party to visit the statue of his hero. Some people are better at covering their tracks than others. Dressed no better than Chiang was, at the peak of his power, Liu shot a salute at the statue of his hero before dropping to his knees to worship.

(OOC: Xiaguo, I'm at a quandary. I don't want to ruin relations with our nations, but it's becoming increasingly obvious you sponsored a terrorist attack against my secretary of the economy! How 'bout we come to some sort of IC excuse, say Oswald (the secretary) was planning a coup and to launch a war against China after seizing power? Sound good?))

(OOC: My mercs were paid by Lin, who never told anyone else what he was doing. Perhaps you could pin it on him?)

Watching Liu worship an idol on national TV made Zhang uneasy. He had been considering giving the church of Taiwan tax breaks to send missionaries to the mainland, this would of course weigh on his decision.

He waited at the palace for his counterparts.

(OOC: Xiaguo, I'm at a quandary. I don't want to ruin relations with our nations, but it's becoming increasingly obvious you sponsored a terrorist attack against my secretary of the economy! How 'bout we come to some sort of IC excuse, say Oswald (the secretary) was planning a coup and to launch a war against China after seizing power? Sound good?))

OOC: Why don't we drop the whole thing and leave it at some top secret government archive for now? I've caught one of the mercs and he's injured. The best technique of interrogation is to refuse him painkillers, until all questions have been answered. It's not considered torture.

Watching Liu worship an idol on national TV made Zhang uneasy. He had been considering giving the church of Taiwan tax breaks to send missionaries to the mainland, this would of course weigh on his decision.

He waited at the palace for his counterparts.

Liu waited along with Zhang. He personally passed on the specialized gift that shall one day be cemented on the Chinese mentality.

"Wear this when the times are right." Liu passed on an ordinary package, wrapped in old newspaper. Snapping a finger against it and one can tell the container is made of wood; redwood of a very high pedigree.

OOC:Comfags, I can call your uniforms Shitlers.-__-
Wu? What do you mean, he's notorius for the development of reorganizing the parliament, which were mostly full of your, comfags like me, before eliminating the despotism that was current in Northern China.

Wang is not communist, and is a conservative at the age of 25. Developments will be added if needed.

The terrorist sponsored attack was directed against Liu.


IC:

Wang's motorcade makes its way through Taipei. This was a first in almost ten years since a government delegation had ever set foot on Taiwan.

The delegation will visit both the Sun Zhong Shan and Jiang Jie Shi Memorials to pay homage. And with a likely possibility of paying their respects to the victims of the 228 Incident in which mainland Chinese fought with the native Taiwanese resulting in civilian deaths ranging in the thousands.

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OOC: Sino, I can't just drop it. And Xiaguo, while the attack was directed against Liu, it's fairly obvious that the use of explosives will guarantee "collateral damage." Therefore, the Russian government cannot stand for a terrorist attack committed on its own soil, murdering its people.
I like Taiwan's idea, of pinning it on Lin. How's that sound?

OOC: Yeah, let's pin it on the Chinazi. No, not me! The guy named Lin.

OOC: I love how the Chinas can constantly come up with insults combining the word "China" with some political ideology, or combining swear words with an ideology. But anyway, let's just blame it on Lin.

Zhang took the package and thanked Liu for the gift. It wasn't really a traditional ceremony, just a conference and a chance for dialogue, so Zhang had no gift to exchange.

As Wang's motorcade arrives at the Presidential Palace, he is escorted out of his limosine by a dozen bodyguards and led up the red carpet.

"It is an honored that we have representatives from both Chinas here today. Shall we get going?"

The three men were led inside, away from the prying eyes of the press. The press would recieve minutes from the conference as soon as it was over. There was a security risk from them as well.

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"Well, let us get to the point. We are here today to discuss the terms and conditions of Chinese reunification." Zhang said, presenting a copy of the edict as proposed by Xiaguo on the table.

太平天明高天皇大令
~The Imperial Edict of the Heavenly Emperor

皇令萬歲
~Long Live the Mandate

在寧朝太寧皇周晉幸金話
~Under the reign of the Ning(Tranquil Peace) Dynasty, Great Peace, Emperor Zhou Jin Zao

在這項法令之下, 天堂命令將被提出對中華武裝共和國 [ 神 州 ] 人民和以中華民國[ 臺 灣 ]人的可能性在統一過程中。 法律在世界不會以貨易貨與這項法令和因而將擔當天堂的詞被給作為詞從皇帝。 詞如下表明直接命令從這將有所有abid 對它的意義的皇帝和他的主題。 所有不準確地執行這次序將面對某一施行與豁免皇帝和皇家命名的選擇的官員。 這個文件意志當然, 它列印有價值聖潔和擔當力量的單一目的轉移皇帝和本文的金黃詞並且中國帝國的統一。
~Under this edict, the Mandate of heaven will be presented to the Sinoese and with possibilities of the Taiwanese in a unification process. No law in the world shall barter with this edict and thus will serve as the words of heaven given as words from the Emperor. The words below indicate the direct orders from the Emperor and his subjects in which this will have all abid to its significance. All who fail to accurately carry out this order will face certain execution with the exempt of the Emperor and the Imperial Named Regents. This document will by all means, the golden words of the Emperor and the paper which it prints on is of holy value and serves as the sole purpose of power shifting and the unification of the Chinese Empire.


1. The Heavenly Mandate of the Emperor will be given to the Sinoese until a joint member process between nine hundred ninty-nine selected delegates, with three hundred thirty three delegates from each; Xiaguo, Sino, Taiwan. Chuang-Han will be represented by the Sinoese.

2. The Emperor, his royal family, and appointed officials will live at the permanent residence of the Dongbei, and thus, the Dukes and Ladies of Dongbei will be of the highest role in Imperial names.

3. Two regions of Xiaguo, along with two others from Sino and one from Taiwan, will be chosen to be Imperial titles for Dukes and Ladies in the highest achieved positions.

4. The official title of China will remain as, the 'Empire of China', which is already adopted by Xiaguo.

5. The National flag will be of the Sinoese preservation of, the 'Five Starred Flag' with the exception of regional flags used by Xiaguo, Taiwan, and Chuang-Han.

6. National Emblems and Symbols currently selected by the Xiannese will be changed. The Plum Blossom will become the new national flower of China. The Panda will not be the ational animal, but will remain as a national treasure. The 'March of the Volunteers' written by Na Er will become the National Anthem once again. All national sybols representing China as whole will only be used on National documents and buildings and as emblems on millitary units, weaponry, and all related. Such Emblems will only be used under the approval and listing of the Sinoese, Xiannese, and Taiwanese.

7. The current countries of China; Xiaguo, Taiwan, and Sino, with the exception of the Neutral state Chuang-Han will drop National status and will unify under one government, one language, one monetary unit, one flag, one legislative council, one judicial council, one department of the millitary, one taxation system, one education system, one check and balances system, one foreign affairs ministry, and of all listed under the one government edict. These countries, respectfully, will drop all status of a nationa and will unify peacefully.

8. The Department of War and Defense will consist of one commanding government. It will consist of the primary: The National Army(Airforce, Infantry, Navy, National Militia, Marines, Special Operations, and so on). The Ministry of Central Intellgence. The National Ministry of Homeland Investigation and Defense.

9. This order gives aproval to change this Imperial Edict after One, Two, and Seven of this document has been achieved, with the exception of not changing the edicts One, Two, and Seven.

10. This order gives forgiveness of the Xiannese, Sinoese, Taiwanese, and Chuang-Hans and gives a gurantee that no side will have the power to arrest, interogate, nor prosecute anyone unless with the oder by the emperor after achieving the requiriments of number one of this document.

11. The Postal Carrier Service [China National Post], Mass Transit [China Mass Transit Systems], and a National Bank [Bank of China] will be created and controlled by the National Government.

12. This allows further editing of edict Eleven.

13. This allows the manipulation and admendments to this document under approval of the Emperor after achieving One, Two, and Eleven, with the exception of editing these edicts.

14. This Edict shall have no expiration date and will commend as of its passing and agreement.

Permanent Edicts

15. All armies of China are announced defeated and will stop the fighting between the China's.

16. The Emperor will be of at least 1/4 sinid blood. The Han Race.

17. The Emperor can be a female and can be named Empress.

18. The Emperor must be born within the Chinese Empire, any new required lands must be in annexation state for ten years, or join the Empire and maintain peace for at least five years until, with the relation to sixteen and seventeen, a person can be chosen from this region to become Emperor.

19. The Heir must be approved by the Nine-Hundred Ninty Nine Committee of Chinese Representatives and Delegates.

20. Further Permanent Edicts may be added under aggreement by Emperor Zhou Jin Zao.

21. Once this document is signed and sealed, permanent edicts and Imperial orders and Royal edicts will not be aded and will require the new Emperor in compliance with the Emperor Edict, One, to sign the new Edicts on new documentation and will be sealed.

22. The National Capital will be in Beijing and the Forbidden palace will serve as the home to the Royal family. Royal families whose relations with the Emperor will stay until the Emperor ends his/her rule. Even after the end of the Emperor's reign, the Family of the past Emperor may remain as dwellers of the Palace for up to 19 years before they will be moved out.

23. The Male Emperor may marry one woman, and may divorce under certain circumstances. The Female Emperor/Empress may marry, and also will be given the divorce option. However, the Female Emperor may choose to transfer power to her husband is she chooses too, however, the Emperor status can be taken away from her husband if the Nine Hundred Ninty Nine Committee chooses so. The Heir must be 1/4 Han.

"I wish to make my position clear at this point - I will be known as the governor of Taiwan. I also wish to take the position of the General of the Chinese Air Force and the General of the Chinese Navy. Thirdly, I would like my son to be named as the next Emperor of China."

NOTE: The Head of the Xiannese Delegation is a woman, the former Empress Dowager who have abdicated. She is dressed in a grand, blue qipao.

"I, along with my compatriots, will be representing the Xiannese in this grand unification process. We suggest that while we are now nominating persons for government positions. We will keep in mind that Yeh Zhao Feng, and many of China's fine men are still trying to crush the anarchy in the North.

Before selecting such roles in government, I suggest that we draw out a basic plan of our government, and the positions in order to better organise, and select the people that run.

"I would be keen to see some form of constituational monarchy arise."

"Our great compatriot, Gen. Zhang Fu Guo has fought bravely for China, both on the battlefield and from the office desk. In the ancient times, only those who fight for the cause deserve to become emperors. Looking back at the number of sacrifices and contributions, this old warriors has given to his people, I suggest that we agree to a unanimous decision of promoting Gen. Zhang to be the first emporer of the Qiang (strength) Dynasty!"

Turning back to his old friend.

"Your largely ceremonial role may not include command options, but we must seek your advice with important plans."

Liu soon returned to the rest of the conference.

"There may be a constitutional monarchy, but le'ts not forget that we must not give excessive freedoms to the people."

The critically heavy question regarding democracy hangs in the air like the smoke from a hundred lit cigars in a basement room.

"Thank you. As emperor, I will do the best I can to ensure that our children and grandchildren will have bright futures."

"I also have concerns about the effect of various so-called 'independent' media groups on the morale of our defence forces, supporting the likes of separatists such as Chen."

"Thank you. As emperor, I will do the best I can to ensure that our children and grandchildren will have bright futures."

"I also have concerns about the effect of various so-called 'independent' media groups on the morale of our defence forces, supporting the likes of separatists such as Chen."

"In the South, our censorship operates like in Israel, or under Chiang. Our agents are constantly in the news rooms and editorial offices, ready to pull the plug. They do not interfere with regular news making, but when the report is against the aims of the State, they have the powers necessary. As for criticism, I like a good old telling off by the people for improvement. Just don't let them have a field day and it's as simple as that."

"Well, as long as things go well for them in their private lives, they will have no significant reasons to protest. The right to protest against poor management such power shortages and food shortages, yes, that is acceptable, just like slight criticism by the media, but foreign political agendas, such separatism and maoism, and fundamentalism will result in censorship."

"Your thoughts are mine, sir. Otherwise, I would have received no invitation."

OOC: Let's wait for Xiaguo.

OOC:Qiang...lol Why not just use the old names, Ming for glorius and so on. Qiang sounds funny.

"Yes, I agree with such, pull-the-plug option. The government also then has a role for general Liu. Wouldn't the leadership of the Chinese Army be available to Liu, because we're all very keen to nominate Liu for this important task.

However, we do favor human rights, and with Xiaguo heading a Constitutional monarchy for almost a decade, we do enjoy the many freedoms. In the North, We have Media Comittees in which they monitor all media networks and will prevent any troubled news making.

Religion is also part of the process. Many traditional practices of the Royals do include to annual prayers and offerings to heaven which is, to me, practices which does help improve the peoples' morale.

I do, however, still use the former Communist choice of Atheist, but still allowing the freedom of faith, including the former Catholic Church of China, and several large Religious organizations which millions are familiar with.

Although this is a Constitutional Monarchy, we still need a valid legislature and Judicial system. We think we should have a mix in btween the British, French, and the American system, or at least a portion of the legislature.

We are to hold any talks relating to Yeh for now.


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Meanwhile, Yeh was flying from Harbin to Taipei.

((OOC: Guys, I'm really sorry to be such a pain, but...have we all agreed to pin it on Lin?))

OOCLYes, but he is BELIEVED to be dead.

OOC: Even better! Just have the guy Sino is interrogating confess, and then we can all demonize Lin. Even if he's not dead, his reputation will be so tarnished that he'll never be able to appear in public again. Eliminating him would be good for me, justice wise, and good for you, since it gives you an excuse not to provide him a place in the new Chinese government, which would be a good thing since I doubt Liu would like the guy who attempted to kill him as a governing partner...

OOC:Qiang...lol Why not just use the old names, Ming for glorius and so on. Qiang sounds funny.

"Yes, I agree with such, pull-the-plug option. The government also then has a role for general Liu. Wouldn't the leadership of the Chinese Army be available to Liu, because we're all very keen to nominate Liu for this important task.

However, we do favor human rights, and with Xiaguo heading a Constitutional monarchy for almost a decade, we do enjoy the many freedoms. In the North, We have Media Comittees in which they monitor all media networks and will prevent any troubled news making.

Religion is also part of the process. Many traditional practices of the Royals do include to annual prayers and offerings to heaven which is, to me, practices which does help improve the peoples' morale.

I do, however, still use the former Communist choice of Atheist, but still allowing the freedom of faith, including the former Catholic Church of China, and several large Religious organizations which millions are familiar with.

Although this is a Constitutional Monarchy, we still need a valid legislature and Judicial system. We think we should have a mix in btween the British, French, and the American system, or at least a portion of the legislature.

We are to hold any talks relating to Yeh for now.


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Meanwhile, Yeh was flying from Harbin to Taipei.

OOC: How about name it after some dynasty that managed to blow sh*t up? Qin, Han and Tang were the best one we had. Ming was more corrupt than KMT and CPC combined and the Qing dynasty was a farce. 'Qiang' means strength, unity is strength.

IC:

"I have no disagreements with any religious group, provided that they do not confront the proven and superior logic and principles of science. If the Christians start calling for the teaching of lies like 'intelligent design', there will be less food and bedding in labor camps. Religion must adopt an apolitical stance like the Chinese Buddhists. Otherwise, they are not serving their true purposes. As for using religion as a vehicle for foreign espionage or a pretext to overthrow us, again, we'll build more labor camps. We mustn't forget that true religion promotes the many morals that are beneficial to State and national image. However, as a man of China, he lives only for his country. The State is supreme."

"Let's not forget that we're all unique individuals. Some rights need to be sacrificed for the sake of national strength, these are unnecesary actions that have been perverted into the context of freedom. Morals govern freedom. This is absolutely necessary if you want China to exist 'til the new day. We will continue to re-educate homosexuals and other sexual deviants, every disease can be cured if we fight hard enough."

"Now, being on the subject, we need to educate morals at schools. Religion is an issue of the individual or his family. Schools have no right to enforce religion, but the first units of assault in the war against immorality is the schools!" Liu's voice was raising, he's got the Hitler thing going again.

"Yes, I agree with such, pull-the-plug option. The government also then has a role for general Liu. Wouldn't the leadership of the Chinese Army be available to Liu, because we're all very keen to nominate Liu for this important task.

"The current ROCAF and ROCN have had the largest technologica and tactical advantage over the mainland for decades. Let us show you the way into the future."

Liu's voice was raising, he's got the Hitler thing going again.

Zhang nodded in agreement to Liu's speech on religion.

"I would be keen to see the practice of private religious schools continue in the Empire," Zhang said. "After all, these schools only exist because the children's parents choose to send their children there, and are entirely self-funded. Of course, any deviant religions such as Jehovah's Witness, Mormonism, and the Islamics must be stamped out in one stroke spearheaded by the government."

"The current ROCAF and ROCN have had the largest technologica and tactical advantage over the mainland for decades. Let us show you the way into the future."

"Don't be so sure. Another salvo of MRBMs and it's back to the Stone Age for Treasure Island*."

*Poetic name for Taiwan.

"I would be keen to see the practice of private religious schools continue in the Empire," Zhang said. "After all, these schools only exist because the children's parents choose to send their children there, and are entirely self-funded. Of course, any deviant religions such as Jehovah's Witness, Mormonism, and the Islamics must be stamped out in one stroke spearheaded by the government."

"Private religious schools must be allowed to function, but remember, all teachers must swear an oath of loyalty to the emporer. Don't forget, we need censors there too, because I don't trust the extra-curricula contents they pass on to the kids. I do agree with stamping out religious fanaticism, but cool your temper over the ethnic minorities that have been Muslim since their incorporation into the Central Nation. As long as they've done nothing extreme, they're fine. The Catholics are fine to sway along with the Pope, but they should also see what is practical."

"Islamic schools should not be banned. Along with many other new age religions. We can eliminate the religion's organization, but never the people, unless we result to murder. Islam is well practiced not only in Xinjiang, but thousands of Chinese-Muslims do reside in many eastern and Central Provinces.

We can always allow the government to determine whether such religions are peaceful or not. The recent rallies around Xiaguo has proven the will and hope of the people for freedom and liberties.

Concerning the Dynastic Title, my suggestions are:

華【huá】 magnificent; splendid; prosperous; flourishing; flashy; extravagant; China

寧【nìng】 rather; would rather; better; could there be

勁 【jìng】 strong; powerful; sturdy.

凱【kǎi】 triumphant strains; triumphant; victorious.

These would be easier and keen to the ear along with the beauty of the meanings.

However, concerning the media. I think we should allow the freedom of speech take in to this area, but also have state-ran media. The private media groups should have minimal government censorship.

"Whether it be faith or beliefs, the service and interests of the State comes first. Individuals are meer units of the State, they must use their skills and individualism for the State's benefit. Deviants shall taste lead. We should consider matters that are more important to us, instead fancy names. All names in politics are ambiguous; Ming clarity but that dynasty's government was so corrupt that it became clear as mud."

"Although regionalism is an important essence in nationalism, nationalism can be built by the government's care. Why choose outcomes when you can choose options? There needs to be a clear cut-line where freedom stands, and where the government stands."

"Although regionalism is an important essence in nationalism, nationalism can be built by the government's care. Why choose outcomes when you can choose options? There needs to be a clear cut-line where freedom stands, and where the government stands."

"Regionalism? Speak sense. Centralism from Beijing is the way of efficiency. If you want regionalism, we'd be as screwed as the states in America. If you want regionalism, why don't you dig those dead warlords out off their grave!" Liu does not tolerate any form of regionalism as the state is supreme.

"Remember, the government cares for the people, one form of care is decide what's best for them before their hurt themselves and the State."

OOC:

Ooh yeah! Who liked Schindler's List?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412921

((OOC: So, Sino, how is the interrogation going? How long before I can pin it on Lin?))

OOC: I'm tired now. I think I'll post that tomorrow. I'm going to a semi-formal function tonight.

OOC: Alrighty. Good luck with that function.

"Of course, religions that inspire violence will have to be banned."

"Private media groups are fine of course, just as long as they do not contribute to stirring anti-government sentiment. Perhaps the strengthening of sedition laws in times of war, and the maintenance of Sino's current 'Red Menace' laws."

"I believe that regional bodies such as local councils should only dictate matters that only affect them such as public transport, regional parks, and their ilk. Their jurisdiction should not reach into social matters i.e the gay marriage fiasco in San Fransisco and must not intrude on the central government's authority."

"I have no disagreements with my superior." Liu presented his agreement to Gen. Zhang's views, before taking a sip of the glass of water. He continued with a joke. "It happened in San Frasisco because that's a place full of White people. It won't happen in China, since our genes are less gay."

Lady Wang then frowns, "Unfortuantely, San Francisco has one of the largest Chinese communities out of China."

"Mr. Liu, by regionalism, as defined by the books, means National-Bound, rather Individualism.

Also, I would want to bring up taxation. I am not the person who likes petty taxes, and I suggest abolishing them. This will come to the conclusion of, where to get funds for the government? I would like to hear some suggestions from both of you as Xiaguo has publicized and detailed their taxation and economic policies which actually contributed to Sinoese forced liberation of Northern provinces.

Where do we get our money? I would also support the floating of the new currency.

By the way, Mr. Yeh will be arriving later this evening and i now crossing over Guanzhou through our newly operated, direct charter flight programs.

"I think abolishing taxes entire would kill the government budget. Having run a small business myself in the past, I would support a flat income tax rate, circa 15%, and an extremely simplified taxation system with no capital gains, hireage taxes, death taxes, government services taxes or Value added taxes, etcetera. This would reduce burecracry requirements dramatically especially for the self-employed and small businesses and also has the added effect of being a disincentive for tax fraud.

Floating the yuan would definitely be beneficial to the economy, especially in the area of inflation control."

"Yes, floating the yuan can be benificial. One thing that does come to mind is the money we need to provide Provinces with. Before, in Xiaguo, there would be a yearly Income tax where the government takes 10% of your earnings to 'work' the government and so on. Another annual Provincial tax, a taxation of property pending on the size will be at a fixed rate of 4.5% which will be used by Provincial Governments to grant cities loans and to operate public services.

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Lady Wang then frowns, "Unfortuantely, San Francisco has one of the largest Chinese communities out of China."

"Sure, we know that. But if one of our citizens go there to be infected by the homosexual disease, they can return here to be cured."

Also, I would want to bring up taxation. I am not the person who likes petty taxes, and I suggest abolishing them. This will come to the conclusion of, where to get funds for the government? I would like to hear some suggestions from both of you as Xiaguo has publicized and detailed their taxation and economic policies which actually contributed to Sinoese forced liberation of Northern provinces.

Where do we get our money? I would also support the floating of the new currency.


"Taxation was a pain in the backside under Yeh. Excessive taxation destroys the hardworking incentive of our race. I agree with the 15% idea. Less tax, more wealth. There are two things that I live for now- knowledge and power. Money used to be another motivation but I think I have more than enough to send even my grandchildren to university. Let's have one set of tax payable to the central government, it shall the policy makers that decide how it should be allocated. The only goods that we need to place a tax on are cigarettes and booze, their consumption is harmful to society."

"Yes, maybe a certain taxation specifics we need to bring up. Of course, taxation on goods can be changed time to time. Of course, healthcare is also in question. Education, Healthcare, and Welfare. Welfare, i believe, is something you, Mr. Liu, dissagree with. However, from my point of view, along with Yeh, this is an incentive to work. Veterans of war, who have health problems or dissabilities should recieve help from the government. The disable, whom cannot take care of themselves. They need our help.

We love China, but I love the Chinese ecven more. China is built by the Chinese, and in order to help secure the foundations, we look to the Chinese people. And the subject comes to mind, the rumours of death camps made headlines today Mr. Liu, and it very wells tarnish your image, along with the unification process. Unification cannot be forced, unless you want suffering.

We are also concerned with gun control. Xiaguo had banned guns from the common people unless they obtain a special pardon by the government. I want to see all guns banned from the streets and leave it to the police and the millitary.

Along with that, I would like to stress an important point about education. Unfortiantely, there is even corruption in the education system where education can be bribed. This needs to be taken care of by cutting up the school districts and make them smaller."

The large front doors open, the smell of the sandlewood doors gave the room a wonderful setting. Yeh, holding a suitcase in each hand, accompanied by his wife, a doctor and a nurse had made it despite the air traffic delay. He stood there for a moment, in which seemed like several minutes, watching them.

"Feng!" as Lady Wang cried out. She was half sobbing and laughing. "Please, take a seat."

Yeh had been a very emotional friend of the former Empress Wang. During her rule, dozens of officials went against her will and at times, the monarchy was very depressed. Yeh Zhao Feng, Wu Ze Min, and Li Li Shan were her most important friends and the dissappearance of all three had saddened her deeply during the war.

Reaching his hand, now trembling slowly toward Liu and Zhang. Yeh was no longer the young man who would laugh at small things, instead had developed a weak wrist on his right arm, weather-beaten, and had seldom smiled. He was on a doctor precaution and was still under supervision.

"Mr. Liu, Mr. Zhang, I am very sorry to be late." as he shoo-ed off his doctor and nurse. As the doors closed, he began to open up his suit case as Madame Xu embraced with Lady Wang.

"Yes, floating the yuan can be benificial. One thing that does come to mind is the money we need to provide Provinces with. Before, in Xiaguo, there would be a yearly Income tax where the government takes 10% of your earnings to 'work' the government and so on. Another annual Provincial tax, a taxation of property pending on the size will be at a fixed rate of 4.5% which will be used by Provincial Governments to grant cities loans and to operate public services.

Zhang takes out a calculator, and begins taking the figures of Xiaguo's proposal through the machine.

"4.5% is fairly hefty for provincial taxes. I'd like to ask if this provincial tax supersedes and replaces the property taxes of the old regime. Also for the sake of encouraging an alternative to petroleum and for the sake of national oil security, what are your opinions on a moderately high petrol tax?"

There are two things that I live for now- knowledge and power.

"While on the subject of knowledge, I would like to propose the provision of a state-run zero-interest student loans programme (as long as they study full time)."

OOC: I believe Gas is the same term for Petro.

"Yes it does. It was suppose to help split the supposedly 10 percent by half of lesser value. The province can then collect taxes on two dates with a yearly tax collected by the government." said Lady Wang.

"Oh, yes, the petroleum problem. I believe the government should be encouraging mass transit as pollution, and economic problems can come out of a few million car owners. However, I do not think taxing gas is the safe way to go, especially if we are considering a hefty rate. I would, however, support tolling fees, and highway fees. Public transit, of course would pay annual dues of the fees, but it will still be less expensive than taxing gas.

And about the student zero interest loans. I am 100% for this idea. I have stressed the option of education a lot in Xiaguo, and Xiaguo is comparable to ancient Athens. That also comes to the question of public schools. As many western countries have, is free education, from grades one to 8 which the former Xiannese government had enacted. of course, this was only possible for the Socialist trends in taxation.

Have we mentioned health cacre, or Welfare yet?" said Yeh.

"I am all in favour of welfare for those who are physically or mentally unfit to work.

"Ah, Mr. Yeh, glad to see you've made it. I'm sure my Special Emergency Team were up to the task in your protection and recovery. I hope you have rested well. There should be any jetlag as it was air travel within your own country.

"I am all in favour of welfare for those who are physically or mentally unfit to work.

"When it comes to welfare, we demand proof. The finances of beneficiaries require government monitoring to prevent abuse and dependency. The way I see it is that, welfare is a short term solution, he who is hardworking and able, must work."

"Death camps? There are still a lot of opposition in the Central Nation who are willing to tarnish the image of a unified China. We are all rational people here, let's not merge fiction with fact."

"In order to thwart off any eminent fossil fuel crisis, the unified China must follow the current Southern energy saving initiatives, such as efficiency in public transport, limitation on car ownership and promotion of hybrid cars. We also have many agricultural skyscrapers devoted to the growing of a G.E. variety of high yield, high oil peanuts to squeeze out a few cents for the army's diesel. Our advisors learnt this from our old enemy Japan; after their loss of the war in the Pacific, burning on peanut oil was their only option, and it burnt well too. We may never be completely weaned off the Carboniferous teat, but let's try bottle feeding."

"Free education must be available to all at the age of 5 to 18. Universities will be another matter entirely. We must continue the current Chinese policies on emphasising science and mathematics in education. Education's primary function is to equip future generations with jobs. We must also encourage high school students to enter university or military academies. It would not be free, but certain families in poverty can expect slashed fees. We must not let the brains of the future go to waste on menial jobs. Just like the high schools of today, chemistry, physics, mathematics and biology are compulsory subjects along with the daily routines of drill." He paused briefly.

"In order to create a generation devoted to knowledge and service to the State, let's encourage boarding schools*. Students must be as separated from the outside world as possible so their minds are set to the learning and the more endorsed extra-curriculum activities, like shooting and basic training."




*Fact: Some of China's best schools are boarding schools. The more you cut them off from the outside world, the more devoted they are to their education, just like regular troops being stuck on base most of the time.

OOC: I believe Gas is the same term for Petro.

OOC: Gasoline and petrol is the same thing. Petroleum is the raw material that comes from the ground.

"Yes, Yes, they have all been honored for the rescue of 70 me and women, including me. Great men indeed, and I must thank you Liu."

"Monitoring of welfare services needs to be done. Of course, the amount of money given by the government would be based on the investigation on one's work history and also many points.

Yes, hybrid cars are selling great here mainly because we have taken the priority of taking off the car sanctions of of hybrids. Some benefits of a hybrid is passage through tunnels, bridges, and highways without paying a duty.

Genetic rice is also grown in the south, while wheat and such is grown north.

I also want to start direct flights from Xiaguo to Sino, which was banned some time back due to aggressive Sinoese policies. We need permission from the Sinoese to allow direct carter flights, which before had planes fly to Nanjing and Beijing before any flight to Sino is made.

We also need to build trust for Mr. Liu, pardon my personal opinions, but Liu would have a much harder time than Zhang to build the trust. And I think if we want to list the points to why, we'll need another pitcher of water."

"Don't be frightened, Mr. Yeh, you're here with the good men. If I wanted you dead, the Hammer would have been informed long ago. We may hold differents views here but on many things we share common ground."

"Direct flights are already happening as many areas have been unified, but every passenger jet is accompanied by two J-10s usually."

"Looks like there's a coming test in our foreign affairs. Those filthy communists across the Himalayas have begun an invasion of France- beginning with their colonies in the Pacific, I don't know about the rest of you, but whenever the devil's cur barks, we usually denounce his actions."

"They want to 'liberate' the world, in our context, they envision every man, woman and child on the planet to be enslaved by their ideology of insanity. We do not want to return to the days of Mao or Stalin and we certainly cannot let China fall. They start out small in areas that are easy to devour, like many colonies and countries such as Nepal where the total annual GDP is enough to cover all the flights to this conference. Let's not forget that they see the Central Nation as their ultimate prize. We will not be slaves to the curry munchers!"

"I am sure you would have killed me as soon as your men would find me if you wanted to.

"There's a saying, 'Rise and fall of a nation rests with every one of its citizens'. And by that, we need to have a government that works for the people. If a General can handle a thousand men, and attack another thousand. He must also be capable of control and management over the people. We must not keep a willing at the big picture here, as tiny flaws will be overlooked. What we need to do is form a government that can listen, and continue listening to the people. An ant may well destroy an entire dam. "

"I will have my cabinet contact the French. Hopefully, we can reach somewhat of a reassurance of hina's stance. Violent confrontation should not be an option for a new China, which does not even have a foundation yet."

"In the meantime, the Biejing Municipal Government has requested Sinoese troops to make time outside of Beijing. To be straight-forward with you gentlemen here. Northern China is giving up much for unification. I am oonly here trying to cut the fine line."

"Yeh has a good point there my friend," Zhang said to Liu. "Many voters in Taiwan say you are too....Hitler-like. I think both Xiannese and Taiwanese civilians may be less comfortable with heavy military presences unlike their Sinoese brothers."

"I believe we need to tread with caution with regards to France. Supporting them may anger our Russian and Spanish allies."

OOC: For the sake of time, could we just agree OOCly that Zhang is the commander of the PLAAF and the PLAN? I have lots of ideas for the Empire's military forces.

"Nonsense, the people will feel safer. I've actually managed to turn the crime rate of China around. A military presence is a reassurance of your safety. Although it's the paramilitary and civil police, not the military that does most of the work. Who needs to fear leadership when it's actions are what is best for a nation, take a look at the Thrid Reich before the war, for example." Whenever Liu speaks of Hitler's pre-war achivements, there is always a hint of pride.

"For now, the troubles of France isn't our primary concern, but the communists are a worry."

OOC: For the sake of time, could we just agree OOCly that Zhang is the commander of the PLAAF and the PLAN? I have lots of ideas for the Empire's military forces.

OOC: Let's call them the Army/Navy/Air Force/Marine Corps/Aerospace Corps of the Empire of China.

"I am sure you would have killed me as soon as your men would find me if you wanted to.

"Now why would a sensible man like me do something so irrational?"

"Nonsense, the people will feel safer. I've actually managed to turn the crime rate of China around. A military presence is a reassurance of your safety. Although it's the paramilitary and civil police, not the military that does most of the work. Who needs to fear leadership when it's actions are what is best for a nation, take a look at the Thrid Reich before the war, for example." Whenever Liu speaks of Hitler's pre-war achivements, there is always a hint of pride.

"For now, the troubles of France isn't our primary concern, but the communists are a worry."

"Well in all honesty, even though we have capital punishment in Taiwan, people are still scared of being pulled into limosines with tinted windows and sent to camps for being critical of the government. While the proposed laws on the table here would only make this an offence during times of war....people are still scared."

"Well in all honesty, even though we have capital punishment in Taiwan, people are still scared of being pulled into limosines with tinted windows and sent to camps for being critical of the government. While the proposed laws on the table here would only make this an offence during times of war....people are still scared."

"Don't forget your race, Gen. Zhang. The Chinese don't take crap from criminals. So far, we execute drug dealers and repeat addicts, rapists, muderers, terrorists, bank robbers, serious frausters, Bedgellens, paedophiles and other degenerates. Best of all for educational and warning purposes, we execute them in public or on live broadcast." Gen. Liu always speak about law enforcement with pride and joy. "Makes great entertainment too, those public deaths by firing squad! Being the executioner is quite a pasttime for me."

Singapore

President Wu laid down the report. For the past few years, his nation had laid low in the world, hoping to be overlooked so as to not be invaded. But times were changing. Singapore was now the last outpost of China not under the direct leadership of the emperor. Worse still: most Singaporians actually liked the emperor, so long as his name wasn't General Liu.

Perhaps this could be the beginning of the end for the tiny city-state that had once ruled an empire. And yet, he saw an irony in this sequence of events. Had it not been for Bonstock, the Chinese would never have had a common enemy to rally against, and would have remained three or four squabbling little provinces. In attempting to destroy China, the Bonstocknians had unwittingly created it.

As Wu looked over his reports yet again, he cursed his predecessors, the lines of Ste. Evremonde and Adolphus, those men who sought to carve the world up, and had left him with this broken shell of a once great empire. Lamenting and vengeful, he sought the only way towards redemption: he looked to the south, to vast Indonesia. Perhaps, an empire could rise again. If only the juggernaut could be held off just a little longer...

"Could Mr Yeh please explain the intentions of the naval fleet deployed to the Pacific?"

"Perhaps power is so addictive that any last minute grasps of it shall last the rest of the time before most of the naval power will be transferred to those who are capable."

"Let's make this clear that we have no intentions of helping the French directly. A close watch must be kept on the communist subhumans. Let's not forget that the drugs problem (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413637) also needs to be dealt with with the most brutal force."


OOC: Due to the constitution, the Emporer will hold no military power. However, _Taiwan can RP the (separate) characters who command the navy and air force.

"Let's not jump to conclusions here, but this is going to rile the Russians and the Indians massively. We don't want anything to do with those gwei-lo."

On Liu's speech on capital punishment, Zhang cringes when Liu mentions "great entertainment". Although he had known Liu for a long time, his fanaticism still scared him.

"One phone call, and I can call the fleet back. We really need to keep away from the gwei-lo."

OOC:I will not mention it here so that I don't, Da Cao Jing She(sp?)




The fleet will remain in the Pacific, but will not confront the the foreigners.

OCC: Hey, whatever happened to Chuang-Han?

OCC: Hey, whatever happened to Chuang-Han?

OOC: Don't know. Probably absorbed in the unification since his military probably wouldn't put up half a fight.

Xiannese Delegation
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Great Great Grand daughter of Aisin Goro Puyi. Lady Wang Mei.

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Wu Ze Min, Economics Minister

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Li Li Shan, General of the Army of the Changjiang

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Dr. Xia Ying Kang, Chief Executive of Domestic Issues

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Chief Executive of Human Rights and Religious Tolerance

"I believe we should end this conference. The Xiannese National Army, the Xiannese Imperial Navy, and the Xiannese Royal Airforce will be renamed and joined with the Sinoese and Taiwanese army on a set date, in about, 3 weeks from now so that we may better prepare and so forth.

We will also host the coronation ceremonies, and Mr. Zhang Fu Guo will be crowned in the Forbidden Palace. A National Celebration will be held in commemoration of the New Government and the Unification. Foreign government leaders and officials will be invited also to witness the ceremony and coronation.

China will emerge as the most powerful Empire on Earth. In a rather, personal request. I would like visit Xiang Gang and Guangdong, it has been well over a decade since my last visit." said Yeh, rather lightheartedly. The Xiannese government has called Yeh back to Beijing in government matters which needs to be sove before the unification.

"Thank you Yeh, and Liu, for attending this. There's a luncheon immediately after this for both delegations, if it isn't urgent business."

Zhang then shook the hands of everyone in the room, and quickly posed for a photo shoot with them.

"What, Mr. Zhang, before the photographer comes, please do open your package."

"This is a a historic occassion, I hope we're all dressed for it. I suggest that there will be a military parade in Beijing to mark the coronation. It's been hell of long time since we had something to parade about, since relations deteriorated before the civil war."

Zhang opened the gift.

"Wow, this is very nice, it's great....(OOC: What is it?)

OOC: It's the taylor-made uniform for the emporer, based on the current Chinese army ceremonial uniform and some of Chiang Kai-shek's Prussian charactersistics(Xiaguo will show you that pic). The hat will be a peaked cap (as pictured). The color will be a dark brown, to clarify that the wearer is the Honorary Supreme Commander.

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OOC: At school Computer. I'll post the picture after.

"Wonderful indeed! I will need to be back in Beijing in a hurry, and I have booked a flight five hours from now, and I will need to pack up. Beijing needs to be prepared for the arrival of the Emperor. Here is also a small gift, a token from me and my delegation."

The package was just a small paper bag, simply titled Zhong Hua Ming Fu.

Inside was an Imperial Qin, Han fu. The gold embroidered dragons on black silk and the magnificent colors matching the black had gave the hanfu a modern, but a strong look.

"This will your coronation dress. After you are crowned, you will be allowed to wear the military formal dress. Although I do not think Liu would wear such garmets, here is a Beiyang Uniform, designed for Liu."

The uniform resembles Yuan Shi Kai's Beiyang Warlord Uniform. The uniform is black, and red, which were important color elements of the Qin. However, little personal touches were made which included elaborate tigers and ribbon textures.

"Being nothing more than just a senior commander, I do not deserve such elaborate attire."

"Being nothing more than just a senior commander, I do not deserve such elaborate attire. Why book an insecure flight when the ECAF can fly us whenever we wish?"

"The Attire is to honor and respect the Emperor and the new Imperial Government. Not wearing one will make you stand out. Haha, just joking, its just a token of gratitude and is a special gift. The Han Fu you are wearing is the same ranks of your current level." said Yeh, while making sure his uniform was all buttoned up and secured.

Next post, assume he is back in Beijing after the 5 hours flight.