NationStates Jolt Archive

The Cherry Cup recognizes excellence in the sport of ice hockey.

sign up here for the 11th installment of the Cup.

please also indicate if you are interested in hosting.

The Rayzors of Starblaydia, already assured of a top-four finish in the current installment, will sign up for Cherry Cup 11.

The Kodiaks of Chicanada, looking to improve ever so slightly, will sign up for Cherry Cup 11 and submit a bid to host.

Otto Matic, Director of Operations of the Very Angry Rabbits ice hockey team, the Artic Hares, notes that applications are due if one wishes to participate in Cherry Cup 11 (XI?).

Otto completes an application, and submits it.

He figures he can sober those idiots up before the tournament begins.

At the suggestion of The Old Grey Hare, Otto modifies the Artic Hares'application to include a possible bid to host. Otto smacks his forhead in dismay - the logistics are intimidating. Are there enough rinks in VAR? Hotels? Eateries? Medical Facilities?

Tax collectors?

"Ah, yes," says Harvey, who of late has become Otto's permanent companion, "Offer them a nice, friendly, ice hockey tournament here in the land-of-everything's-wonderful. Entice them to come with promises of fun and games. Then tax 'em to death while they're here."

VAR is a greedy little nation, aint they?

The Iansisle Gulls will sign up, of course. I'm also thinking of hosting, but haven't made a final decision there yet. More information as event warrant. ;)

The Euroslavia Phantoms will sign up, in hopes of doing a little better. :)

Druida, with it's following of two, will attempt to do a little better this time around.

Dude, if you're really Canadian... just call it Hockey *lol*.

I'll sign up the Confederacy of Inbreedia All Stars (also known as the Gray Ghosts).

Vilita will sign up :P

Listing of Participants signed up for Cherry Cup XI, Hosting Bids received, and various threats and warnings issued, moved to page 7

We sign up for our third Cherry Cup, and aim to finally get past the damn second round!!!!!

EDIT: Oh yes, the traditional threat...um...er...oh, here we go!

We threaten to...kill the world population of llamas!

Hockey Canada is sending a mens team this year (god we sucked bad last time).

We threaten to send a Philadelphia Flyers 1970's kind of team this year.

Hockey is an up an coming sport in Tonissia.
We Would like to enter the Tonissia Ice Comets
Our colors Red Blue And White

Dude, if you're really Canadian... just call it Hockey *lol*.

Then it gets confused with jolly-hockey-sticks style lesbian phys ed. teachers in too-short flowing skirts on all-weather pastic pitches.

Or is that just me?

Nope, just you. :D

Of course the Robotopolis Synthos sign up for their third Cherry Cup, eager to dominate the compitition again.

Hisam, the team that doesn't RP, signs up again. :P

The Corneliu Penquins will sign up once again.

This time however, we shall win the whole thing.

Then it gets confused with jolly-hockey-sticks style lesbian phys ed. teachers in too-short flowing skirts on all-weather pastic pitches.

Or is that just me?

isn't that field hockey?

Field hockey is played on grass and is called field hockey.

Ice hockey is just called hockey.

Well, being British, I call Field Hockey, hockey, and Ice Hockey, ice hockey. That way it makes sense.

Well, being British, I call Field Hockey, hockey, and Ice Hockey, ice hockey. That way it makes sense.

'Field' Hockey is just plain-old Hockey, as it was invented first, afaik. Ice Hockey is Hockey on ice :p

'Field' Hockey is just plain-old Hockey, as it was invented first, afaik. Ice Hockey is Hockey on ice :p

That's what I would have thought.

:rolleyes:
:p
:D

can we save a little room in this thread for sign ups?

;)

Make sure you add my threat to the sign-up thing...oh, you have. Good work!

FLP sign up. And will be better than ever.

*Shakes fist*

I have no threat, but fear the grumble, it is almighty.

The Stumperia Stumperphants will join.

We have 2 teams in our precious country.

We will make our debut...with failure!

The Squornshelous Ferrets, sign up, hoping to continue their trend of mediocrity, as opposed to renewing their trend of crappiness.

We threaten to find an entriely new and amazing way to lose hockey games.

Oliverry will sign-up for sure!

We threat to kill every Fimbles we find :P

The Cassowaries would not miss it for the world.

This time, we were obliging enough to our guests to lose badly. We threaten to be mean drunks next time, instead of obliging drunks. Seeing as how threats seem to be in vogue, and all.

List of Nations signed up to participate in Cherry Cup XI, Hosting Bids, and various Threats and Warnings, moved to page 7

The roster of the Inbreedia All Stars (The Grey Ghosts) has just been released.

Mostly a motley crew of college players, minor league up and comers, and a smattering of professionals that somehow got accepted into legitimate leagues, the Grey Ghosts are a new, and hungry team. They are also a team from a country in the deep south, known more for their championship moonshine drinking teams than their hockey pro's.

Uniform: Gray, with stars and bars bordering, with orange trim. The logo consists of a ghostlike rebel soldier in a gray uniform, hoisting the Dixie flag.

Coaches:
Coach: Grant Stuart the IV (Alabammer Ice Dogs, head coach)
Goalie Coach: Jebediah P. Rutherford jr. (Atlanti Sky Chickens, goalie coach)
Forward coach: Remi St.Mark (Lewseranna Crawdads, forward coach)

Goalies:
24: Jethro Sharpton (Atlanti Sky Chickens): 25 years-old
5: Robbie Copperbottom (Kentucket Razorbacks): 21 years-old

Defensemen:
1st pair
43: Porkie Robinson (Burningham Rebels): 38 years-old
97: Morgan Delahue (University of Atlanti Bonefish): 19 years-old
2nd pair
21: Billy Shackleford (Roscoefield Tech Werewolves): 20 years-old
35: Rusty P. Carter (Alabammer Ice Dogs): 28 years-old
3rd pair
68: Buddy James Armstrong (Richmound Patriots): 22 years-old
82: Torque Wilson (Atlanti Tech Birddogs): 18 years-old

Forwards:
1st line
7: Billy Bob Lickspittle (Ft. Worthy Bloodhounds): 31 years-old
8: Thaddius Claybourne (Habana Sunspots): 26 years-old
12: Willy 'No Tooth' Marshall (Burningham Rebels): 29 years-old
2nd Line
6: Joey Wallace (Arkansawyer Toothpicks): 28 years-old
11: Cassius Graves (Kentucket Razorbacks): 26 years-old
10: Kevin 'Cooter' Cootsville (Lignite Miners): 29 years-old
3rd line
14: Pat O'Possum (Kentuket State Water Moccasins): 21 years-old
15: Angus Joel (Alabammer Ice Dogs): 35 years-old
19: Joey Joe Jo 'Joe' Johnson jr (Atlanti Sky Chickens): 24 years-old
4th line
28: Augustus White (Lewseranna Crawdads): 22 years-old
20: Billy Joe Cyrus (Bayouga Raiders): 22 years-old
31: Dale Selvig (Hazzard County Bootleggers): 23 years-old


With this roster, Inbreedia threatens to bring its most drunken, surly, inbred thugs. If not this, there's always service in the Army of Northern Virginny...

We are in.

Fmjphoenix shall enter again, and maybe this time I will pay more attention and RP :D

We're back.

The Sjwitz Silversharks are in!

Ok then... no more women's teams because we can't seem to compete.

Our jerseys:

Logo:
http://www.onlinesports.com/images/jhd-nhl-flyers.jpg
Home:
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/nhl-shirt/images/Philadelphia_Flyers_home.jpg
Away:
http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/awayflyers.gif

We're trying to bring the biggest goons in Hockey Canada and it's territory, Antarcticanada to hit their way to the Cherry Cup.

Demn, Why Lovisa is not on the list? I aplly one more time

Demn, Why Lovisa is not on the list? I aplly one more timeThe rabbit (very angry, of course) jumps out of the magicians hat, waves a magic wand (small version) dramatically, and announces, "Voila!"

And, as if by magic, Lovisa appears on the list!

;)

The rabbit (very angry, of course) jumps out of the magicians hat, waves a magic wand (small version) dramatically, and announces, "Voila!"

And, as if by magic, Lovisa appears on the list!

;)

We decided to be the Flyers intead of "whatever" and we'll bid to host.

I'm going to withdraw my bid to host. There are a lot of other really good-looking applications and it's good to get more people involved.

By the way, TB, I hope you realize the most untenable position you've created: if Starblaydia wins, it'll be three Cups, officially creating a Dynasty™ and making the dwarves completely insufferable. If Kalaallit Nunaat wins, the world ends. You could have solved all this by letting the Gulls win, but oh no! - you had to go and recklessly endanger our mental well-being / the world. ;)

By the way, TB, I hope you realize the most untenable position you've created: if Starblaydia wins, it'll be three Cups, officially creating a Dynasty™ and making the dwarves completely insufferable. If Kalaallit Nunaat wins, the world ends. You could have solved all this by letting the Gulls win, but oh no! - you had to go and recklessly endanger our mental well-being / the world. ;)

Yeah but if the Gulls won, you'd think you were just as good as the Dwarves, which frankly is the funniest thing they've ever heard. Can you hear them laughing, over there in Iansisle? Can ya?

Dwarves Versus Inuits... place your bets please!

Oh and sign up for the 11th Cherry Cup, too.

What, Ian, you think i wanted to see Starblaydia in the final? The country that has robbed Tanah Burung of the Cherry Cup not once, but twice? The dwarves who would be hated nation-wide, if they weren't providing such a welcome boost to the prostitution industry?

And if there's one country that's liable to be even more insufferable by winning this Cup, it's their opponents.

Armageddon's a-comin'. Yup.

And if there's one country that's liable to be even more insufferable by winning this Cup, it's their opponents.

...I actually hadn't thought of that. We're even more doomed than I had feared. :(

And OBVIOUSLY you wanted to see Starblaydia in the final as a retaliation against me ...for ... doing ...something. See! My theory hangs together perfectly!

What, Ian, you think i wanted to see Starblaydia in the final? The country that has robbed Tanah Burung of the Cherry Cup not once, but twice? The dwarves who would be hated nation-wide, if they weren't providing such a welcome boost to the prostitution industry?

And if there's one country that's liable to be even more insufferable by winning this Cup, it's their opponents.

Armageddon's a-comin'. Yup.

Well... a little help for helping the Cherry Cup would be letting veterans like Iansisle and I possible going to the final. And I find it sad how as I enter cup after cup i seem to get worse. Maybe a hitting team will win it all.

We're not insufferable. It's just that everybody hates us because we're so damn good. Nunaatans, Iansislers, Burungi, Oliverrians, Fimble-lovers... just everyone. Insufferable? Pfft!

I don't hate you. And I still never go through to the finals.

And is it anyone who has a dick makes it through 2 rounds of the relegation round? Cuz maybe it's just me seeing i'm probably the only girl on NS.

...gasp!...

:p

I know you're not the only girl on NS - and suspect you're not even the only girl in the Cherry Cup

We've taken a couple Cherry Cups off now. Prepare for our glorious comeback and a end to our nation's sucking.

The Gulf States, now in.

Current List of Participants, Hosting Bids, and various Threats and Warnings moved to page 7

Liverpool England bids to host.

With the current number of 26 entrants, we'll aim for a 32-nation cup which would run with a group stage (4 groups of 8) from which two nations per group would qualify for best-of-3 quarterfinals. Semifinals and the final would potentially be best-of-5.

After much consideration, the Druida Lightning have decided to submit a...


THREAT! We threaten to lose to Squornshelous. If we ever play them.

Druida - Taking hockey futility to a new level!

The rabbit (very angry, of course) jumps out of the magicians hat, waves a magic wand (small version) dramatically, and announces, "Voila!"

And, as if by magic, Lovisa appears on the list!

;)

Thank You very much :)

Very Angry Rabbits
Hosting Bid
Cherry Cup XI
more details to follow

Format:
2 Conferences – The Howdy Doody Conference, and The Blood and Guts Conference
Each Conference divided two groups in each
teams selected for groups by blind random draw number of teams in each group will, of course, depend on how many sign up for CC XI

Group Play:
- Each team plays every other team in it’s group twice
- Top 4 in each group advance (16 teams advance, 8 in each Conference)

Conference Play:
- Each team of the 8 that advance plays each other team once
- Top 2 advance to Conference Finals (one game)
- Winner is Conference Champ, Loser takes 2nd Place in Conference

Tournament Semi-Finals
- Conference A Champs vs Conference B 2nd Place
- Conference B Champs vs Conference A 2nd Place

Tournament Finals
- 3rd Place Game to determine 3rd Place and 4th Place – losers of the Tournament Semi-finals
- Final Game to determine Champion and 2nd Place – winners of Tournament Semi-finals

Scores to be generated by the ancient and nostalgic technology known as "dice"

Venues
Carrots - R - Us Rink - Edgeburrow
Iceburg Lettuce Sports Complex - Watership Downs
Beatrix Potter Stadium - Farmington
White Rabbit Rink - Wunderlandt
others TBA (to be announced)

Social Activities
Social Activities calendar to be developed and implemented by Helen Bakagin in the VERY near future

Sponsors
Each participant will be invited to submit sponsors for consideration – approved sponsors advertisements will be aired throughout the tournament.

Very Angry Rabbits own Carrots – R – Us will be one event sponsor.

Hungry – needa eat sumthin’? Carrots – R – Us R 4 U! Eyesight not what it ought to be? Carrots – R – Us R 4 U! On a diet – need rabbit food? Carrots – R – Us R 4 U! V F X N M 2!

very angry rabbits taxation department will explain the intricate taxation schemes at some point - generally, just before you are required to pay an enormous amount for the privilege, as an example, of exiting the country. ice tax, puck tax, uniform tax, oxygen tax, sales tax, refusal to purchase tax, and various other taxes will be charged as appropriate - or inappropriate, as the case may be

In response to the second-straight Semi-finals loss in a row, the Synthos now threaten to ATLEAST make it to the finals.

Chicanada
Hosting Bid
Cherry Cup XI
Logo revealed later in case we are awarded the tournament

Format (for a 32-team tournament. Would be altered for anything less):

4 Regions, 8 total groups of four teams. Two Groups per region.
Teams selected by blind draw based on rank after Cherry Cup X. The top 7 teams and Chicanada (as host) would be the first teams selected and so on (think real life World Cup Soccer).

Group Play:
Teams play their three other group members twice. Top two advance to knockout round (in case of ties, it's broken by wins, goal differential, record against each other, goals scored, goals against, rank).

Knockout Rounds:

As bidded on previously, Chicanada will have a staggered Knockout round to protect the best performing teams. The 4 teams from each region would be ranked 1-4 based on points, wins, goal difference, goals scored, goals allowed and rank overall.

Round A: Second Round
MA1: N3 v S4
MA2: S3 v W4
MA3: W3 v E4
MA4: E3 v N4

Round B: Third Round
MB1: N2 v MA3 Winner
MB2: S2 v MA4 Winner
MB3: E2 v MA2 Winner
MB4: W2 v MA1 Winner

Round C: Tournament Quaterfinals
MC1: N1 v MB4 Winner
MC2: S1 v MB1 Winner
MC3: E1 v MB2 Winner
MC4: W1 v MB3 Winner

Round D: Tournament and Relegation Semifinals (in Mogada, a very affluent suburb of Livingston that sits along the warm coastal waters on the North Shore of Chicanada)
MD1: MC1 Winner v MC2 Winner
MD2: MC3 Winner v MC4 Winner
MD3: MC1 Looser v MC4 Looser
MD4: MC2 Looser v MC3 Looser

Round E: Tournament Finals (in Mogada)
1st Place: MD1 Winner v MD2 Winner
3rd Place: MD1 Looser v MD2 Looser
5th Place: MD3 Winner v MD4 Winner
7th Place: MD3 Looser v MD4 Looser

All matches in the knockout stages are one game, going as long as necessary to break ties.

Scorinator (at the behest of Starblaydia...and this shall kill the bid :p)

Cherry Cup XI Chicanada will be utilizing the wonderous Leagion software developed by Rejistania.

Venues (Groups would play in one of the 8 cities for all matches in opening round)

North Region: (Knockout Stage Host: Livingston Arena, Livingston)
Livingston Arena, Livingston
Real Centre, Acadia

West Region: (Knockout Stage Host: Ministry Fieldhouse, Paradiso)
Ministry Fieldhouse, Paradiso
Cananite Pavilion, Cana

East Region: (Knockout Stage Host: Governess Palace, Colombo)
Governess Palace, Colombo
Easten National Hall, Eastentown

South Region: (Knockout Stage Host: Ital Memorial Fieldhouse, Jaxx)
Southern Cross Icehaus, Finnen
Avi Center, Star Point

Tournament Semifinals and Finals:
North Coast Arena, Mogada

Misc. Information

All the major industries of Chicanada are on board as sponsors for the tournament and will provide all the comforts anyone would ever want. We welcome other corporate sponsors as well.

In addition...since we're not part of the UN, prostitution and other fun vices (such as beer, beer, gambing, beer, and other things) (except for gambling on games) is legalized in specific sections of all cities used for all tournament matches.

All cities offer the finest in Hotel accomidations, transportation (Chicanada is a green state and uses lots of subways/trains/buses in additions to cars), sporting events in the offtime (as CFF play continues) and no tax collectors (that's right, all products purchased in Chicanada are duty and tax free as we have a 20% tax attached to all products anyways)

Liking the bids, but how are the bidders going to be generating el scores?

I just noticed the missing information and added our scorinator. If Chicanada loses the rights to host, we're blaming Starblaydia :p

Also, with 26 teams it will be 4 groups of 6 or 7. 28 teams it will be 4 groups of 7. 30 teams will be 6 groups of 5. 16 teams qualify the the knockout round regardless of total team particpate.

Liking the bids, but how are the bidders going to be generating el scores?
You just had to ask, didn't you? :)

Dice... :rolleyes: Yes, you heard right - dice. No bonus for ranking, or role play, or anything else. "Technology" as old as the hills.

Nostalgia, anyone? ;)

i do have an excel spreadsheet "scorinator" - but i really want to use dice, so if VAR is selected, dice it will be. no hard feeling if VAR is not selected

Nostalgia, anyone? ;)

Ahh, Cherry Cup 5, I remember it well. The days when a bunch of Starblaydi humans who could barely stand up on the ice, let alone skate, somehow managed to take the Cherry Cup in their debut tournament.

Who did we beat in that incredible last match of the Final Series? Um, I'll tell you after a certain nation has posted the result of this Final ;)

You just had to ask, didn't you? :)

Dice... :rolleyes: Yes, you heard right - dice. No bonus for ranking, or role play, or anything else. "Technology" as old as the hills.

Nostalgia, anyone? ;)

i do have an excel spreadsheet "scorinator" - but i really want to use dice, so if VAR is selected, dice it will be. no hard feeling if VAR is not selected

Somewhere after the 8th game, I added Excel and some bonuses. After the 12th game, I switched to just scorination.

If it wasn't for Starblaydia going undefeated and Iansisle sucking tremendously (not that I'd complain about the latter), the system wouldn't have been half as bad.

If it wasn't for Starblaydia going undefeated and Iansisle sucking tremendously (not that I'd complain about the latter), the system wouldn't have been half as bad.

Well yes, Iansisle sucks in general ;)

It was very weird (but also brilliant) from my point of view, I think the Rayzors won 9 straight games from the start, then drew two, then finally lost one.

Now, where did I get the Cherry Cup bug from, I wonder? :D

Bah lost my long bid post :( Closed the window by accident.

I'll have to redo it all, and it's long. :(

Teams/Format
28 or 32 teams

28 teams:
4 groups of 7, playing each other once (in Liverpool England). Top two advance.
32 teams:
4 groups of 8, playing each other once (in Liverpool England). Top two advance.

Quarterfinals:
They are best-of-3 (first to 2),
Home team for first leg listed first. The second leg is played in the team listed second, and if a third game is needed it will be played in Liverpool England.
A1 v B2
B1 v A2
C1 v D2
D1 v C2

Semifinals:
They are best-of-5 (first to 3),
Home team for frist and third legs are listed first. The second leg is played in the team listed second as is the fourth game if needed. Should a fifth game decider be required, it will be played in Liverpool England.
A1/B2 v D1/C2
B1/A2 v C1/D2

Finals:
They are best-of-5 (first to 3),
The first leg is played in the team listed first. The second leg is played in the team listed second. The third game will be played in Liverpool Englan, as will the possible 4th and 5th games.

Formula/RP bonus/Scorination
I'll be using a calculator (with a random function) to scorinate results.
Formula used:
Rank^-1 X 8RAND where Random = integer from 1 through 6
Should the number obtained be in decimals, it will be rounded off (up or down) to the next whole number. Should it be a double-digit number, the two digits will be added up and the result obtained taken to be the score. If the result is still a two-digit number, the process will be repeated until a single digit is obtained.

There shall be no RP bonus, however weak RPs (considered by the general sports RP community to be weak) will be penalised.

Misc Info
Stadia:
National Ice Ring, CCL (20k)
Underground Arena, Lox Land (14k)
Grady Arena, Schimpol (11k)
Folenisa Underground, Folenisa (13k)

Other Info:
Generally you will find the weather in Liverpool England to be varied depending on where you are staying, the closer to the deserts you are the hotter and drier you will find the weather, however the majority of the nation is rather cool with the occasional shower. There have been a few floods and tsunami problems in the past nearer to the cost, but generally you will find these are rare occurrences which shouldn’t interfere with games.

Liverpool England has banned weapons and legalised drugs, nudity and homosexuality. In fact the coffee you may be served in Liverpool England could very well be laced with drugs so it’s important to ask before buying if you are unsure. Also note that if you wish to take drugs you can only do it in your hotel room or in designated areas. Heavy drugs are banned.

Gay and lesbian clubs are found in Orean, so if you lean that way, do catch a train down to Orean - they're open 24 hours a day.

Those are three excellent and well-thought out bids. I'm also sure Hockey Canada would run an interesting & fun Cup. (By the way, HC: didn't know you were female and a player's gender is honestly not something i give any thought to. Results this Cup were entirely random, as my own miserable performance should show.)

There shall be no RP bonus, however weak RPs (considered by the general sports RP community to be weak) will be penalised.

Can you clarify that a bit, LE? I assume you're not planning to put it to a vote if a role-play is "weak" or not, right? It would be your own discretion?

Dice, there's a bit of nostalgia, yes. The dice were awfully good to me in WC5, as Star has mentioned, and as i recall there was a glitch early on in that it was impossible to get a score of 0. Shut-outs being fun, i hope if dice are used it will be possible to get no goals (make 6=0 or subtract one from alll numbers).

A final suggestion to everyone: it's probably best if you ask someone else to generate your playoff results, as there was a little bad feeling generated in CC9 over the host generating their own results. I don't think it was fixed or anything like that, but it's probably best to avoid a situation where people can accuse you of fixing the results. Cuz we don't want to get into recriminations again, right?

Oh, btw, my team's colors are black and red, witht he background of the Squornshelan flag for the design.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/squorn/squornshelous.jpg

Well yes, Iansisle sucks in general ;)

Aw, I love you too! ;)

But let's all remember people: I ignored CCV about five games in, when I still had a winning record, because I disagreed with the way it was being run. Only after that did my campaign go properly down the potty.

But that's hardly the point. I don't know if I've ever mentioned it to the Gulf States, but I've since renounced my own behavior that CC as rude and boorish - I was completely in the wrong. I'll keep ignoring it In Character, just because I think that it creates some funny situations, especially with Starblaydia, but I would like to apologise to TGS out of character and say that I was wrong and have since changed my opinions.

Excellent suggestion Tanah Burung and should Chicanada host I will be seeking out a secondary scorinator post haste...provided we somehow win a match :p

Oh, in case anyone was wondering about our bids' RP bonus or not, since the "software" we am using determines the scores based on the teams selected (International-style playoff using foreign teams) and the fact that we are a bad judge of RP ability there will be no RP bonus.

[ooc: The Royal We is fun to use, no?]

Weak: something most of us would agree isn't up to standard. No polls or anything, just the general feeling. Eg, Hockey Canada's Footie under21 RPs.

Weak: something most of us would agree isn't up to standard. No polls or anything, just the general feeling. Eg, Hockey Canada's Footie under21 RPs.

Basicly something like this:


We losted t3h game.

I am very sad, the coach fires all of his player. We now mortgage our entire country to Susan Aglukark.


Is that what you're thinking of?

Dice, there's a bit of nostalgia, yes. The dice were awfully good to me in WC5, as Star has mentioned, and as i recall there was a glitch early on in that it was impossible to get a score of 0. Shut-outs being fun, i hope if dice are used it will be possible to get no goals (make 6=0 or subtract one from alll numbers). The VAR "Dice Squad" had already decided that "0" scores would have to be possible. 6=0 was selected over the "everything minus one" method, on the basis that it seems harder to screw that one up.

A final suggestion to everyone: it's probably best if you ask someone else to generate your playoff results, as there was a little bad feeling generated in CC9 over the host generating their own results. I don't think it was fixed or anything like that, but it's probably best to avoid a situation where people can accuse you of fixing the results. Cuz we don't want to get into recriminations again, right?Been thinking about this. While it bothers the very angriest rabbits that the selected host (whoever is selected) should have to have someone else generate their scores, the less angry of the rabbits see the benefit. To that end VAR humbly (sure...) requests, should VAR be selected to host, Tanah Burung generate scores for VAR should it become necessary. We would generate all scores until the Conference Finals - at which point, if VAR is involved, we would ask TB to generate results for matches VAR might be in. Unless, of course, it was a case of Hare vs Cassowary. Then, we would ask someone else to help out.

And finally......urp

Yes, Squorn, very good example.

Those are three excellent and well-thought out bids. I'm also sure Hockey Canada would run an interesting & fun Cup. (By the way, HC: didn't know you were female and a player's gender is honestly not something i give any thought to. Results this Cup were entirely random, as my own miserable performance should show.)


It's ok I guess. After all, no matetr how much or little I RP it never really makes a difference in the Tournement.

We withdraw our bid because I'm just too damn lazy.

I'd like to how how it'd be interesting and fun. Because I'm lost in the dark on how differently it would be played. i'd skim into the 1st round of Relegation before getting my ass kicked by a team that'll be kicked out next round.

Whew, that's not a shot at anyone but what has happened since CC8.

Here are my 2 cents about the host bids:

LE: It is a very good bid, except for the multi-game series(best-of-5, best-of-7)
Chicanda: It's also a good one but, using a Hockey game as a scorinator... I could help you making leagion work on your computer if you want...
VAR: Also a good one. But, with the dices, please make a kind-of formula that will not defavourize those that well ranked in the last cup.

These were my 2 cents, presented by Pepsoli®.
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My bid was that we have 30 teams play.

Each team is ranked.

1. Kallait Nunnat (can't spell it)
2. Starblaydia
3. Robotopolis
4. FLP
etc;

And the rank that they have they are given the rank of a team in the NHL that ESPN NHL 2K5 has given.

1. Tampa Bay- Kallait Nunaat
2. Calgary- Starblaydia
3. Robotpolis- San Jose
4. FLP- whoever was in the eastern finals against Tampa.

The games would be simulated by the actual game.
Example:

Tampa Bay- 3
San Jose- 2

Would be:

Kallait Nunaat- 3
Robotopolis- 2

I call this the HC scorination system.

The Formal Dances Waltzers would like to sign up if we can.

Current List of Participants, Hosting Bids, and various Threats and Warnings moved to page 7

Here are my 2 cents about the host bids:
VAR: ... But, with the dices, please make a kind-of formula that will not defavourize those that well ranked in the last cup.Olive - I understand your thought, and your concern, but part of the point of "Nostalgic Dice" is that no one is favored over anyone - it's all random, with no ranking whatsoever. So the VAR bid stays as is, but again VAR won't get upset if one of the other bids is selected. :)

HC has the right idea on how we would be scorinating with 2K5 (and may I say it's fun to see four bids all using something other than a spreadsheet just to addvariety). We were planning to use the tournament setting with international teams (yeah, at most is 16 teams in it but we would be simming games a lot). It would also be random as victories are randomly generated and randomness if fun.

*off to TG Oliverry about his assistance on Leagion anyways cuz I would like to get it working*

HC has the right idea on how we would be scorinating with 2K5 (and may I say it's fun to see four bids all using something other than a spreadsheet just to addvariety)

Highest Ranked Team = Highest Rank Team isn't too difficult a concept to grasp. And spreadsheets can be so vastly different in their formulas and outputs that no one sheet can really be compared to another without in-depth looks at the formulae.

Highest Ranked Team = Highest Rank Team isn't too difficult a concept to grasp. And spreadsheets can be so vastly different in their formulas and outputs that no one sheet can really be compared to another without in-depth looks at the formulae.

With this I puit forward my bid to host again. Just to add some flare to the Cherry Cup. I will watch some of the games and see if there is any big hits or amazing goals to see and post on the scores.

A 15 game round robin will be used to determine who advances onto the playoffs. All i have to do is set the mode to 15 games and simulate each one after another and we'll be rolling.

I'm happily welcoming any TGs, posts or comments on my bid.

Well, for someone who doesnt RP well at all you do have a good bid, besides from the fact you're letting a game scorinate.

Quick few stats I can sum up from test runs using my scorination system:
1-in-6 chance of a team defeating a higher-ranked team (where rank difference is 4 ranks or more)
1-in-9 chance of a draw
1-in-3 chance of a higher-ranked team winning

Personally, I don't like the idea of using a videogame to determine our stats. I'm new to the hockey RP, and I don't want to be stuck at the bottom just because of that fact.

Hi there, the Chicanada Bid Team again.

We just figured out our Leagion problem, so that program will be used for Cherry Cup XI if we win.

[ooc: I am very very excited I figured out what the hell I was doing wrong with it]

Leagion was made for football scorination. How will you modify it?

We at the Chicanada Bid Committee like the way Leagion works for CHL Premiership and CFF Champions League scores and as none of us are tech savvy we will currently be leaving it unalterd.

However, we are in touch with Oliverry and may see if they know how to alter it.

[ooc: Honestly, I know nothing about Leagion or Java and very very little about programming so it would be bad of me to try and fix it to work with hockey. I did run several tests using projected rankings and got consistent scores and final standings each time. Of course, it was interesting to see big name teams not make it, but it was scattered throughout the six rounds of testing I did with it.]

Leagion was made for football scorination. How will you modify it?

You could simply add one goal to all the scores except for a few which would make shutouts rare, and change most 1-goal victories to 2-goal ones to simulate empty-net goals.

Or you could just leave it the same and say that your refs call a lot of penalties, which results in low-scoring games.

Or you could just leave it the same and say that your refs call a lot of penalties, which results in low-scoring games.

But, most hockey games (ok ok, it's NHL) are low scoring. You rarely see blowouts of larger than 3 or 4 goals and ties are still common even with overtime. Which Leagion sims and I enjoy and plan on leaving in.

I say hurrah for difference. :) Go for it, man!

I say videogame or not, teams lose at any given time. Only some are just plain better than others. If I'd play Iansisle he'd be me 9 times out of 10, but my system gives the underdog a somewhat chance. This will kepp divisions close but better teams at the top of the league and newer teams an actual chance to win.

Chicanda, you just have to use the =FHWC variable. It will give high scores like 7-3, 5-2 or 6-3 so it would be more realistic this way

Chicanda, you just have to use the =FHWC variable. It will give high scores like 7-3, 5-2 or 6-3 so it would be more realistic this way

Heck, there can be a 10-1 upset from the 30th ranked team over the 1st ranked.

The Kericia Seagulls would like to sign-up for their first Cherry Cup.

Mind you, =FHWC was reated for the Field Hockey WC.

The problem with using NHL 05' is that the top 6 or 7 international teams on the game are so much better than the rest. For example, I know on my copy of NHL 04' Slovakia (#7) has a rating of 85 and Germany (#8) has a rating of 78. You would find it that while a lower ranked team might win a few games, it would be very difficult for anyone outside the top 8 ranks to make the quarterfinals.

The problem with using NHL 05' is that the top 6 or 7 international teams on the game are so much better than the rest. For example, I know on my copy of NHL 04' Slovakia (#7) has a rating of 85 and Germany (#8) has a rating of 78. You would find it that while a lower ranked team might win a few games, it would be very difficult for anyone outside the top 8 ranks to make the quarterfinals.

I'm among the top 8, however, you are right Squornshelous.

Mind you, =FHWC was reated for the Field Hockey WC.
I know but I'm using it in my nation's hockey league and scores are pretty realistic

The Old Grey Hare, King of Very Angry Rabbits and Regent of The Islands of Despair, thought long and hard before putting his brother, Ruppert the Incompetent, Prince of Edgeburrow and the Far Marches, in charge of the campaign to have Very Angry Rabbits selected to host Cherry Cup Eleven.

His Hareness' thoughts went something like this - If Ruppert screwed it up royally, well, that's pretty much what everyone expected Ruppert to do, and Ruppert would take the blame. Perhaps he could be banished to the Far Marches. On the other hand, if the Armed Republic of Very Angry Rabbits were selected, then the King himself could take credit for putting his brother in charge. It seemed like a win-win situation, and so he did it.

Ruppert dawdled, procrastinated, forgot appointments, dropped the presentation in the mud, and finally holed up in his cabin in mountains, refusing to come out until the whole thing blew over. The last thing he did, as he packed his bags, was call the Director of Operations for the Artic Hares, Otto Matic.

"Otto?"

"Yes. Who is it?"

"Ruppert."

"Ruppert who?"

"Ruppert me, dimwit."

"...Oh...hello. What can I do for you, Your High and Whatever..."

"Well, My brother put me in charge of..."

"I know - the campaign to have us selected to host the next Cherry Cup. How's it going?"

"Funny you should ask. You've got the ball now, Otto, old man. I'm off."

"Well, yes, you are a little off - but still..."

"No, no - I'm off, and your it. You're holding the bag - hot potato - whatever you want to call it. Don't disappoint my brother, Otto old bean."

Prince Ruppert hung up, and hummed himself a little hum as he finished packing. Then he wrote a note to his brother to let him know Otto was on the case, and slipped quietly out of this RP - by motor car, if you must know. A little green MG.

Otto, on the other hand, did not hum any hums. He spent the day deleting expletives, as he sat in his office, trying to come up with something to give the campaign a boost.

He failed miserably. Well, at the thinking something up part. He did quite well with the expletives.

OOC: Formal Dances signed up? Damn. Now I may have to go against my own sibling! Alwell.

The Harlesburg Blades(Of Steel (:P))would like to particapate.
Judging by my lack of knowledge of Don Cherry id say hes a hapless Knob. ;)
Bit of a Mission to get to page 4 i want to see some insults.-Sigh

HArlesburg wants in!

The problem with using NHL 05' is that the top 6 or 7 international teams on the game are so much better than the rest. For example, I know on my copy of NHL 04' Slovakia (#7) has a rating of 85 and Germany (#8) has a rating of 78. You would find it that while a lower ranked team might win a few games, it would be very difficult for anyone outside the top 8 ranks to make the quarterfinals.

I'm assigning each team on NHL rank, not international. There is only 24 teams for NHL 2K5 on international.

Current List of Cherry Cup XI Participants (updated to include Kericia), Hosting Bids, and Threats and Warnings moved to page 8

VAR, you forgot Kericia (post 93 or so...inbetween posts concering FHWC number usage)
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To: Cherry Cup XI Participants
From: Chicanada Cherry Cup Bid Committee
RE: Leagion Scorinate and Low Scores

To all participating countries:

We have slow ice. Hence the CHL tends to have low scores and we figure in most cases it will be the same for CCXI.

Best Regards,
Emmerdile Kalanite
Director of Ice and Facilities, North Coast Arena
Director of Facilities, CCXI Bid Committee

I think we should close the signups at 30 so mostly everyone's bids can fit and there wouldn't be too much confusion. Anyone who says this please just end your message with this little guy: :cool:


:cool:

Hockey Canadian Cherry Cup song.


If you're an Iceberg, Gull, Lightning or Rayzor,
surely you have nothing to fear.
Be it Phantom, Arctic Hare, Kodiak or Grey Ghost,
You'll know the Cherry Cup is here.

The Ice Cats from Vilita will be a threat,
that is almost for certain.
Hopeful hosts Hockey Canada will put on a show,
as they unveil the logo behind a curtain.

Ice Comets, Synthos and Penguins
Oh my!
Watch now as the Stumperphants
are trying for a first round bye.

Ferrets will threat to lose more games
than any other team.
The Cassowaries will help contribute to their losses,
their next championchip dream.

Ice Terminators and Silversharks both expect
to make it far.
Polish Bisons, Waltzers and Blades
will do something that rhymes with far.

South Osettia, Hisam, Fmjphoenix and Kelssek
didn't plan to have a name.
But who knows? They could win it!
And achieve Cherry Cup Fame.

So all you nations out there,
Hockey Canada wishes you luck.
And if you didn't like my song,
we don't give a flying ****.

Bravo Bravo! :D

Bravo Bravo! :D

See? Cherry Cups actually can be fun!

I don't like the song. Because my team isn't in it. Forgotten, oh the shame.

............Maybe it is better that way.

I don't like the song. Because my team isn't in it. Forgotten, oh the shame.

............Maybe it is better that way.
:D

So, whos hosting this? I need to know to prepare.

BE patient. Impatience is bad - patience is a virtue. The committee (KN/Oliverry/TB) will need to vote first.

BE patient. Impatience is bad - patience is a virtue. The committee (KN/Oliverry/TB) will need to vote first.

I might get TBs vote, and Oliverry has been pretty good choosing. KN i'm lost about. I'm sure they'll do the right thing.

To those of you who want to see the bids on wiki, please check the Cherry Cup site on nswiki.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Cherry_Cup

Current up to here (including Kericia - sorry), sign-ups for Cherry Cup XI are:

for those new to the Don Cherry Cup, the host is selected by the Cup Founder (Kalaallit Nunaat) and the previous two hosts - so, for Cherry Cup XI that will be Tanah Burung and Oliverry

Participants
Kalaallit Nunaat - Iceberg Current Champions colors are red and white
Iansisle - Gulls colors are white, orange and blue (http://www.sandiegomag.com/issues/february00/images/gulls.jpg)
Druida - Lightning colors are brown, dark brown, and yellow (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/NEWI/cherrykits.bmp)
Starblaydia - Rayzors colors are purple (and more purple) (http://www.starblaydestudios.co.uk/Images/CCKit.jpg)
Euroslavia - Phantoms colors are black and red
Very Angry Rabbits - Artic Hares colors are white with green trim and red piping
Chicanada - Kodiaks colors are red, blue and gold
Inbreedia – Gray Ghosts colors are Gray, with stars and bars bordering, with orange trim
Vilita - Ice Cats colors are orange and teal
South Osettia
Hockey Canada - Flyers Logo (http://www.onlinesports.com/images/jhd-nhl-flyers.jpg) - Home Jersey (http://mypage.bluewin.ch/nhl-shirt/...Flyers_home.jpg) - Away Jersey (http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/awayflyers.gif)
Tonissia - - Ice Comets colors are red, blue and white
Robotopolis - Synthos colors are Dr, Wily. Robotopolis Synthos' Team Logo (http://www.aaroncity.com/kanjiri/drwlogo.gif)
Hisam
Corneliu - Penguins colors are black and gold
Fimble loving peoples colors are bright yellow and green, with black trim
Stumperia – Stumperphants
Squornshelous - Ferrets colors are black and red (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/squorn/squornshelous.jpg)
Oliverry colors are green, blue and red (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image1.png), alternate jersey (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image2.png)
Tanah Burung - Cassowaries colors are yellow, black and red
Liverpool England - Ice Terminators
Fmjphoenix
Kelssek
Sjwitz - Silversharks
Lovisa - Polish Bisons colors are dark blue, white, and blue
The Gulf States
Formal Dances - Waltzers
Kericia - Seagulls
Harlesburg - Blades

Hosting Bids
Chicanada
Liverpool England
Hockey Canada
Very Angry Rabbits …ulp…
Iansisle withdraws bid to host


So Far...
29 Participants
4 Hosting Bids
6 Threats - and a Warning (see below for specific threat/warning details)

Specific Threat/Warning Details
South Osettia - Threat to kill the world population of llamas we are glad we are rabbits, and not llamas
Hockey Canada - Threat to bring a 1970’s style Philadephia Flyers team ha. it is to laugh…
Squornshelous - Threat to find an entriely new and amazing way to lose hockey games. of course, we knew this already...
Oliverry - Threat to kill every Fimble they find :P we fear for the very existance of fimbles...
Tanah Burung - Threat to be mean drunks next time, instead of obliging drunks. Seeing as how threats seem to be in vogue, and all. now here is a threat we must all take seriously...
Druida - Threat to lose to Squornshelous, should they play them. a new low in threats, we believe...

and Fimble loving peoples provides a Warning -"Fear the Grumble, It is Almighty" duh...yeah...

History of The Don Cherry Cup
The Don Cherry Cup was founded by Kalaallit Nunaat to provide an arena for an NS Ice Hockey tournament, recognizing excellence in the sport, and a forum for a bunch of fun.

Past Champions
Cherry Cup 1: SterlingIce
Cherry Cup 2: Soviet Haaregrad
Cherry Cup 3: Tranquillitis
Cherry Cup 4: Eizen
Cherry Cup 5: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 6: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 7: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 8: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Kalaallit Nunaat

Past Hosts
Cherry Cup 1: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 2: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 3: Kaze Progressa
Cherry Cup 4: The Belmore Family
Cherry Cup 5: The Gulf States
Cherry Cup 6: Squornshelous
Cherry Cup 7: Liverpool England
Cherry Cup 8: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Tanah Burung

*throws his support behind the Chicanadian bid, like it matters.*

*It doesn't.*




50th post! Woo!

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Cherry_Cup

I've removed all unneccessary bits of details, eg extra bold words.
The big pictures which messed up the page I've converted to links; don't want to infringe copyrights.
I've also fixed formatting - my advice to you, HC, don't edit the Wiki if you don't know how to.

God Bless CC

If I had to vote, I'd vote for LE, purely on the scorinator. Dice and games, I do not trust...not to mention HC.

I'm just hoping the commitee members chooses the right one. If I don't win... hey, I gave it a shot.

As Homer Simpson once quoted:

"You tried and you failed miserably. So the important lesson is... never try."

this was the hardest choice yet for host, since there were no bad bids. i really want to thank everyone for their efforts, you all came up with some great ideas. i remember having to beg for hosts in the early Cup but that's sure not a problem any more. we didn't get a unanimous vote but we have a majority for another new host:

Cherry Cup 11 will be hosted by: Chicanada.

to the others, i hope you'll bid again. i would have been very happy with any of you as host.

Congrats Chicanada. Please accept this donation of 1 million kugra as a token of appreciaton/bribe. :D

Well, i tried. Maybe the bid could get LE, VAR and I a bot of a boost in CCXI.

Congrats on getting the bid. So when are the teams put into groups and stuff?

Current up to here, sign-ups for Cherry Cup XI are:

Cherry Cup XI will be hosted by CHICANADA!!

Participants
Kalaallit Nunaat - Iceberg Current Champions colors are red and white
Iansisle - Gulls colors are white, orange and blue (http://www.sandiegomag.com/issues/february00/images/gulls.jpg)
Druida - Lightning colors are brown, dark brown, and yellow (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/NEWI/cherrykits.bmp)
Starblaydia - Rayzors colors are purple (and more purple) (http://www.starblaydestudios.co.uk/Images/CCKit.jpg)
Euroslavia - Phantoms colors are black and red
Very Angry Rabbits - Artic Hares colors are white with green trim and red piping
Chicanada - Kodiaks colors are red, blue and gold
Inbreedia – Gray Ghosts colors are Gray, with stars and bars bordering, with orange trim
Vilita - Ice Cats colors are orange and teal
South Osettia
Hockey Canada - Flyers Logo (http://www.onlinesports.com/images/jhd-nhl-flyers.jpg) - Home Jersey (http://mypage.bluewin.ch/nhl-shirt/...Flyers_home.jpg) - Away Jersey (http://www.sportsdepot.com/images/awayflyers.gif)
Tonissia - - Ice Comets colors are red, blue and white
Robotopolis - Synthos colors are Dr, Wily. Robotopolis Synthos' Team Logo (http://www.aaroncity.com/kanjiri/drwlogo.gif)
Hisam
Corneliu - Penguins colors are black and gold
Fimble loving peoples colors are bright yellow and green, with black trim
Stumperia – Stumperphants
Squornshelous - Ferrets colors are black and red (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/squorn/squornshelous.jpg)
Oliverry colors are green, blue and red (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image1.png), alternate jersey (http://membres.lycos.fr/lhjmq2004/Image2.png)
Tanah Burung - Cassowaries colors are yellow, black and red
Liverpool England - Ice Terminators
Fmjphoenix - Blades
Kelssek
Sjwitz - Silversharks
Lovisa - Polish Bisons colors are dark blue, white, and blue
The Gulf States
Formal Dances - Waltzers
Kericia - Seagulls
Harlesburg - Blades

So Far...
29 Participants
6 Threats - and a Warning (see below for specific threat/warning details)

Specific Threat/Warning Details
South Osettia - Threat to kill the world population of llamas we are glad we are rabbits, and not llamas
Hockey Canada - Threat to bring a 1970’s style Philadephia Flyers team ha. it is to laugh…
Squornshelous - Threat to find an entriely new and amazing way to lose hockey games. of course, we knew this already...
Oliverry - Threat to kill every Fimble they find :P we fear for the very existance of fimbles...
Tanah Burung - Threat to be mean drunks next time, instead of obliging drunks. Seeing as how threats seem to be in vogue, and all. now here is a threat we must all take seriously...
Druida - Threat to lose to Squornshelous, should they play them. a new low in threats, we believe...

and Fimble loving peoples provides a Warning -"Fear the Grumble, It is Almighty" duh...yeah...

History of The Don Cherry Cup
The Don Cherry Cup was founded by Kalaallit Nunaat to provide an arena for an NS Ice Hockey tournament, recognizing excellence in the sport, and a forum for a bunch of fun.

Past Champions
Cherry Cup 1: SterlingIce
Cherry Cup 2: Soviet Haaregrad
Cherry Cup 3: Tranquillitis
Cherry Cup 4: Eizen
Cherry Cup 5: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 6: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 7: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 8: Starblaydia
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 11: Er...see...um...it's this that remains to be seen :rolleyes:

Past Hosts
Cherry Cup 1: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 2: Kalaallit Nunaat
Cherry Cup 3: Kaze Progressa
Cherry Cup 4: The Belmore Family
Cherry Cup 5: The Gulf States
Cherry Cup 6: Squornshelous
Cherry Cup 7: Liverpool England
Cherry Cup 8: Iansisle
Cherry Cup 9: Oliverry
Cherry Cup 10: Tanah Burung
Cherry Cup 11: Chicanada

Past Champions
. . . . . .
Cherry Cup 11: Chicanada

oops! ;)

Well, you never know...

I'm so embarassed! :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

I'm so embarassed! :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should edit it then? :confused:

If it's like CC9.... :D

Perhaps you should edit it then? :confused:
Of course...but, I had to stop and be embarassed first... ;)

*Gets all Sally Field*

You like my bid! You really really like my bid!

Anyways, thank you for your support and selection of us as the host country (and apparently projected winner). Since we're still sitting at 29 countries Chicanada will not start all the serious stuff (such as the draw) until we hit 30. The regional alignment has been altered for 30 teams but the rest remains the same.

I should have the CCXI Roster/Scores/RP thread up shortly. The Draw (regardless of hitting the 30-32 teams) will be announced tommorow.

The Cherry Cup RP/Roster/Scores/Shenanegans Thread is now up for posting (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8539885#post8539885)

Any other teams wishing to participate please post in here and I will add you to the list.