NationStates Jolt Archive


Atheists out!

Christac
18-03-2005, 22:48
I come here to share with any religion based states an idea of what to do with TWR's (Those without religion) As of 21:00, we have initiated an "Atheists out policy", any Atheists still left in my country in 24 hours, and still refuse to attend the daily services will be arrested and imprisoned for life.

I urge other countries to do similar.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac

RESOLUTION SOLVED - GRENFELD IS DEAD
Muktar
18-03-2005, 23:04
Any refuges from Christac's theologistic regime is more than welcome to take up residence in Muktar.
Gehenna Tartarus
18-03-2005, 23:45
Emma Sarie looked at the missive received from the nation of Christiac. Although the Empire of Tartarus did not normally interfere with the rules of other nations, it had a general interest in this event. Any Tartarians travelling in Christiac would be at risk under this ruling. And now that they were putting out a call for other nations to follow suit, this would cause problems for would be tourists and any delegates that might find themselves in the vicinity.

Sitting at her desk, she began to type furiously, wanting to clear up this matter with the utmost haste.


To: Georgia Grenfeld, Head of State
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Atheists Out Policy

I have just read your announcement concerning your plans for not allowing people who refuse to practice religion to reside in your nation, and was more than a little horrified that you have declared your intention of holding all those that do not leave your nation captive for life.

Coming from a nation that does not acknowledge any religions, you can perhaps understand my concern for any Tartarians that happen to set foot in Christac. We will endeavour to warn all nationals to avoid your nation – being so strict as to deny all travel visas to Christac, to protect them from the irrational behaviour recently demonstrated by its leader, who’s actions only serve to confirm our opinion of organised religion.

I hope that in the future you retract your policy, so that we may allow Tartarians the freedom to enjoy your nation.

Yours most disappointedly,

Emma Sarie
The Resi Corporation
19-03-2005, 00:02
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

As we are certain you know, life sentences are not cheap. In fact, in most nations they tend to be the second most expensive sentence (the first most being, ironicly, death). We'd be happy to "deal" with this atheist problem for a mere $10 USD a head. Compared to the thousands of dollars you'd have to spend on each of these godless ones for their life sentences, $10 is mere chump change.

[signed]
Angellica Kradii, Secretary to the CEO
The Resi Corporation
East Lithuania
19-03-2005, 00:10
Dear Christac,

I am in a hurry so I'll make this quick... your plan sucks.

Dictator Scharfetter,
East Lithuania
Unidox
19-03-2005, 00:36
To: The oppressed citizens of Christac
From: Unidox a.k.a. The A.S.U.

The Allied States of Unidox offers safe harbor to any of those banished by the theological regime of Christac.


-Supreme Archon Ioku M. Tinuviel
Acting Chief of the U.X.C.N.
Christac
19-03-2005, 00:40
We will not hand over these evil people to other countries. If they wish to leave by their own free will they have another 8.5 hours left. As for life in prisonment, we may consider changing, as the price of a bullet is less than that of a life time supply of meals.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 00:55
The Armed Republic of Arthaga Nova would like to extend it's hand to the citizens of Christac who have the courage to not be forced to accept a government mandated religion. Our nation is proud to announce that we are offering free passage, including all possessions of these brave souls to Arthaga Nova, in which they will be provided with housing and allowed to believe whatever they want.

The Armed Republic of Arthaga Nova would also like to declare that if this religious genocide that Christac is proposing, we will not be afraid to intervene, whether it be diplomatically, economically, or militarily. And, rest assured, we will not be alone in these actions.
Muktar
19-03-2005, 00:56
We will not hand over these evil people to other countries. If they wish to leave by their own free will they have another 8.5 hours left. As for life in prisonment, we may consider changing, as the price of a bullet is less than that of a life time supply of meals.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
ChristacIf you intend to use genocide against the atheists of your nation, you can expect militaristic response. Rest assured, you will not be able to hide behind the cross if such becomes the case.
Tsaraine
19-03-2005, 01:05
Message To: Head of State Georgia Grenfeld, Christac
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Message Re: A Most Unsound Plan

Esen Grenfeld,

We of the Greater Ascendancy are most upset to hear of your planned theological "purge". While we do agree that national sovreignity is important to us all, twenty-four hours is scarcely sufficient time for an entire segment of your population to depart your borders, and you will find that your plans will proceed more smoothly if this deadline is extended by at least a month.

We will naturally be extremely upset to hear of life imprisonment or genocide upon the unfortunates who do not manage to leave your nation within the given time, and we urge you most emphatically not to do this.

The world is watching, esen Grenfeld, as is your God. I sincerely doubt that either would approve your current actions.

In disappointment,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior

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Liberatania
19-03-2005, 01:16
*watching the proceedings with some amusement, wondering what wacko religion is practiced in Christac, thinking it must be quite weak indeed if it cannot survive other than by government command*
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 01:17
To: Georgia Grenfeld, Head of State
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Amendment to Atheists Out Policy

Following this declaration concerning your intention to execute Non-religious people in your nation, I have to once again stress the seriousness of your decision. Not to mention that allowing a mere 8.5 hours to evacuate these people is nowhere near adequate.

We urge you to extend your deadline, to unable us to help move these unwanted citizens from your borders.

It is still our hope to reach a peaceful conclusion to this situation.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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The Resurgent Dream
19-03-2005, 01:18
As a man of the Church, I object to this plan on a number of grounds. The first is quite simple. This practice undermines the Church in Christac. The Christacan Church will no longer be believing, concerned members of the body of Christs, but people who convert from fear of worldly punishment rather than from belief. Forcing practice on people who do not yet believe or wish to believe can have other affect than to dillute the Church body.

Furthermore, Christians are to be known among the nations for our good works. While the Church does have a doctrine of just war, we strive to conquer with love and not by the sword. The best way to minister to these souls would be to preach the teachings of the Church in good faith and to represent yourselves among the nations with love, kindness, and honor, not through hostile acts such as the suppression of religious disagreement.

Sincerely,
Archbishop Leonard of Tarana
Christac
19-03-2005, 01:24
I am new to this position of Head of State, but before then I was a man of the church in Christac. I beleive that I know what is best for my people as well as my religion. I am sure I will be rewarded for my actions if not in this life, then the next. I do not fear military action, as I know that I have a powerfull ally on my side, one more powerful than any mortal army.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Audioslavia
19-03-2005, 01:30
Audioslavia's Foreign Secretary, Kris Jansen, is sitting in his office, having a chat with his associate, Warren Smith

Kris: Just seven?

Warren: Yes, seven Audioslavians in the country. Two families, in the same hotel in Christac. The Robbens and the Davisons, both on holiday. Theyre both from the same town so we figure they're together, we could pull them out of the country pretty quickly if the Christacs are serious about this ungodly curfew for the few ungodlies.

Kris: Both families are athiest?

Warren: According to this census form you are almost right...

Kris: 'Almost'?

Warren: Yep, almost. Two members of the Davison family have listed their religion as 'Jedi'.

Kris: Jedi? For fuck sake, smart-asses.... but wait....

Warren: Yes?

Kris: hmm... are you thinking what i'm thinking?

Warren: That George Lucas should hang himself for that atrocious run of films?

Kris: No... something different...

Warren: Like...?

Kris: Because so many smart alecs put 'Jedi' as their religion on their consensus forms, we had to officially list it as an official religion, officially...

Warren: Officially yes. Officially.

Kris: Don't mock me.

Warren: Sorry

Kris: Anyway, if we can contact these two families, we may not have to get them to fly from the country.

Warren: But they'll be in trouble, theyre athiests. We don't know that the Christacs are going to do

Kris: What if they were all, officially, Jedi?

Warren: Yes but...

Kris: but what?

Warren: But surely Christacs don't list Jedi as a religion?

Kris: We don't list Protestantism as an 'official' religion, but we know that it exists...

Warren: Yes but...

Kris: All we need to do is get them to start saying theyre Jedi, while we changed the bit on the census to 'Jedi', and theyre safe to continue the holiday, or whatever it is theyre doing... yes... Get me the phone number of that Christacian hotel, i've got some Jedivangelism to do...
Pracus
19-03-2005, 01:30
Announcement from the Empire of Pracus:

The Royal Family and people of Pracus invite any and all of the now oppressed of Christac to find sanctuary in our free lands. Further, holding that religious freedom is a central tenet to a truly free land, we condemn the actions of the government of Christac.

Any citizens who have no choice but to flee their homes will be offered sanctuary in our fair realm. The staff in our embassy and consulates stand ready to assist you in making rapid preparations for your move, including clearing your bank accounts and transferring your property so that its value might be retained for you. Any who wish to accept this offer should proceed immediately and calmly to our many locations so that they may be on Pracan soil before the alotted time arrives.

Signed by Lord Krischan Lake, Prime Minister of the Empire of Pracus
before and attested by Davin Prax I, Emperor of Pracus, Lord of the Waterfall Palace, Duke of the Western March, Knight of the Order of the Phoenix.
The Resi Corporation
19-03-2005, 01:31
We will not hand over these evil people to other countries. If they wish to leave by their own free will they have another 8.5 hours left. As for life in prisonment, we may consider changing, as the price of a bullet is less than that of a life time supply of meals.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
To the Loathed Potentate of Christac:

With this statement, you have crossed over the line from mere persecution into pure genocide. We're sorry, but we don't do business with genocidal maniacs. We will, however, consider the economic ramifications of annexing you, and decide if your land is worth our time.

As a side note, what natural resources do you know of within your borders? It would be helpful for us to know this.

CEO Johnathan Tetragammaton
The Resi Corporation
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 01:34
*Emperator Arthas I picked up the phone and called his counterpart in Christac*

"Head Of State Grenfeld, I have called to personally encourage you to not follow through with this plan. If you were to postpone the deadline even 48 hours, our nation alone could have 70% of these people you would otherwise murder en masse. We would also like to point out that many governments are against this too, and you will have a coalition of the most powerful nations marching through your homeland. If you won't do it for your religion, if you won't do it for your ideals, do it for your people, who probably would rather not have a massive invasion literally in their backyard."
Sentient Peoples
19-03-2005, 01:39
<TRANSMISSION Opens>
<TO: HEAD OF STATE Georgia Grenfeld, Christac>
<FROM: MINISTER Johnathan Currey, IRD, FSP>
<RE: SENTIENT Rights Abuses>

Head of State Grenfeld,

This abuse of sentient rights cannot be tolerated. It is a greivous violation of personal affairs, those such only responsible to a person's own conscious mind, to enforce a religion or belief system through either confinement and/or threats or physical harm.

These rights are the most individual and sacred to all sentient beings, and we strong desire that these new laws, demonstrating implusive, intolerant, and immature behavior on the part of your Government be repealed for the sake of sentient rights everywhere. For when one falls, all are weakened throughout the world.

Furthermore, should any Federation citizen be imprisoned or harmed in any way under these laws, the Federation will respond strongly. Should mass executions take place on the basis of religion alone, the Federation will respond strongly. And finally, should this situation not be resolved in a peaceful manner, the Federation will respond strongly.

A violation of national sovereignty is a grievous a crime as violation of sentient rights, but those who violate the rights of their citizens and visitors as sentient beings, lose the protection of the state and its establishment by God.

Johnathan Currey
Minister, International Relations Directorate
First Ambassador
The Federated Commonwealths, Dominions and Colonies of the Federation of Sentient Peoples

<TRANSMISSION Terminated>
Muktar
19-03-2005, 01:40
I am new to this position of Head of State, but before then I was a man of the church in Christac. I beleive that I know what is best for my people as well as my religion. I am sure I will be rewarded for my actions if not in this life, then the next. I do not fear military action, as I know that I have a powerfull ally on my side, one more powerful than any mortal army.

Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State
ChristacI do not refer to your religion when I say you have inaccurate beliefs. I refer to your assumtion you know what is best for your people. If you commit this act of genocide, there will be war, you will lose, and you, personally, will die. Also know that your God's teachings do not match up with your actions, and you cannot expect your God to save you.
Athit Holcheastok, Shaman of the Chetok Provincial Council
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 01:41
Arragoth will not stand for this bull. We declare war on Cristac and hope to form a coalition. Idiots do not deserve to live in this day and age.
Enduria
19-03-2005, 01:46
My nation is founded on the belief of freedom of religion. We will never refuse anyone due to their color, creed, religion, or nationality. We are all of the same species and they who want the right of believeing in nothing is their choice and should be respected by the goverments of the world. Refusing this is evil and my nation would never condone these types of laws or standards. We offer refuge to those who are religious prisoners of any nation in this standard.
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 01:46
To: The Leader of Arragoth
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Declaration of war on Christac

In your effort to bring an end to the suffering of the innocent people of Christac, you are condemning millions of others to die with this declaration of war.

I advise you to withhold this action until all attempts at a peaceful resolution have been exhausted.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 01:48
To: The country of Christac

Upon hearing your declaration of genocide, the people of Kalthorn were appauled to hear your course of action. Although under normal circumstances I could care less about you murdering your citizens, forcing citizens to convert to a religion or else face death is laughable, your deadline is laughable, and we of the Republic of Kalthorn laugh in your general direction. We have decided to join the list of countries that have openly threatened war against you if this course of action takes place. I do hope you reconsider. Wait, actually, I hope you don't reconsider. I've been meaning to test out a few new weapons we've developed and this would be an excellent opportunity.

Hope to see you on the battlefield!
-Lord Malachi
The Resi Corporation
19-03-2005, 01:50
To the Loathed Potentate of Christac:

According to our calculations, we are well over 50 times your size. This means that if we were to invade you alone, it would be fifty troops on one of yours, and as you can see there is a rather large coalition forming against you. There are other nations, nations bigger than us even, that would very much like to see you dead.

However, for a mere $10 a head, as we mentioned earlier, we will remove these atheists from your land. This will solve all problems, we think, and you won't even have to provide transport for them.

Your alternative isn't death, oh no. We don't want to threaten you with something you think would be kind to you. Quite simply we will remove your brain, cremate your body, and keep the organ alive in a tank of biomed gel with electrodes attached to key lobes that make you think you're in a virtual world. This world is a hell of our own design, an ingenious pit of fire, brimstone, whips and racks and all sorts of torturing that will solve any interrogation in minutes without actually violating any human rights. You will be stuck in this virtual reality for eternity, however.

Sell, or Hell. You make the choice.
CEO Tetragammaton
The Resi Corporation
Tsaraine
19-03-2005, 01:51
OOC: Apologies if those messages were meant to be secret IC - if so, I can delete this post. Also, what gender is Grenfeld? I saw the feminine "-ia" ending of "Georgia" and used the corresponding feminine adress in Sekhel, but a woman cannot be "a man of the Church".


Message To: The Heads of State of Muktar, The Resi Corporation, the Federation of Sentient Peoples, Arragoth and Arthaga Nova
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Message Re: A Friendly Recommendation

Kuirau esari,

Having seen your messages to the nation of Christac, I concur that what Head of State Grenfeld intends is morally abhorrent, and would dearly love to see it halted.

However, I believe that one must attempt diplomacy before resorting to the sword; while a fundamentalist such as Grenfeld will most likely be disinclined to listen, the attempt must be made, or we are no better than the Christaci.

I urge you to reconsider immediate military action.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior


Message To: Head of State Georgia Grenfeld, Christac
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Message Re: Please Reconsider.

Esen Grenfeld,

Once again I implore you to reconsider this path of action.

While assuredly, as a true believer in your faith, you know what is best for the Christian population of your nation, I am concerned that your faith has distanced you from that portion of the people under your charge who do not share your beliefs.

The Christian faith was of old renowned for it's charity and tolerance, qualities espoused by it's founder. Please consider the precedent of your Lord Christ, and grant the atheists of your population sufficient time to leave your bounds.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior
Laritia
19-03-2005, 01:52
The Laritian empire encourages the actions of Christac we laritians are a mainly Christian people.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 01:53
TO: Emma Sarie
From: The High Board of Arragoth

We do not value the lives of idiots. If they kill our religiousless brothers we will strike with full force. I suggest you stay out of our way. If we can not get any help then so be it, the country is small enough.


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The Resurgent Dream
19-03-2005, 01:53
To: Chief of State, Enduria
From: Thomas Jansen, Foreign Minister, the Resurgent Dream

While we appreciate your nation's championship of freedom of conscience, we would also like to point out that we are hardly all the same species in the modern world and that your comments could be construed in a manner rather different than that which you meant by many of the other races which share this world with humanity.
Muktar
19-03-2005, 01:59
To: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Fr: Gux Kachetitok of the Muktari National Council
Re: We Must Insist

Benevolent Arkhreifane, although we concur with your belief that a peaceful solution would be preferable, but if you look at the responses of the Christacan leadership, you will clearly see they are beyond reason. They are outnumbered dozens to one, but honestly believe they will be able to succeed. They are beyond reason, and cannot be negociated with. We will wait until they start rounding up the atheists, but no longer than that.
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 01:59
To: The High Board of Arragoth
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Declaration of war on Christac

In case it has escaped your attention, when partaking in a war, it is not only those that are being attacked who lose lives. Do you wish to risk the lives of your own people when there is a chance of a peaceful end to this situation?

The quickness of some nations to jump into conflict leads me to believe that it is not the saving of the innocent of Christac that is the most important element, but the chance to bring out and use their military. This is not a game of soldiers, this is the lives of millions of innocent people.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:03
To Laritia: While your opinions are as valid as the next, if you do any more than verbally support Christac, you will be considered an ally of them and I'm afraid the forming coalition may have members that would consider your nation a target.

To Arragoth: While we are all happy to have you aboard, there is still 7 or 8 hours until the genocide commences. Until then, try not to bash our allies. And, please be a bit more respectful, this is global politics, not the Jersey turnpike.

To Tsaraine: I am honored to consider you an ally in this matter. I would like to point out that we are attempting a diplomatic solution and we will continue to until a Christaci Assassin's bullet is fired. We don't want war, nobody does, so we will continue our talks until this matter is resolved or the deadline has passed.

To Resi Corporation: While we hope that you will be our allies in this matter, your opportunistic attempts at profiting off this matter are sickening. I doubt they will accept your offer, as they could easily do this alone. Besides, if you do all the killing for them, Christac will be invaded and there will not be a government to pay your bill.
Tsaraine
19-03-2005, 02:07
Message To: Gux Kachetitok of the Muktari National Council
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina
Message Re: Re: We Must Insist

Kuirau esar Kachetitok,

Most certainly I cannot insist, and shall not ask, that you stand idle while Grenfeld commits atrocities against the people of Christac. But while Grenfeld has not, so far, shown reason, we must hold out hope for the future; through diplomacy we may be able to encourage him to extend the deadline long enough to extract the victims of his prejudice, but it will not happen through military posturing.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior
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Message To: The Head of State of Arthaga Nova
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina
Message Re: A few things, then ...

Kuirau esar,

I am glad to hear that you are pursuing diplomatic measures. You were a recepient of my prior message because I adjudged your initial missive to Christac to be somewhat belligerent.

It is my experience that men such as Grenfeld seldom react to threats until it is far too late for them to be effective; I fear he will not back down until there are tank battalions knocking on his door.

However, we may yet be proven wrong, and Grenfeld may yet see reason. I am sure you shall endeavour to exhaust all possible diplomatic channels before resorting to military action.

Tsaraine does not itself intend to mobilise troops over this issue; what we could move in time to Christac would be insufficient to make any difference. I trust that, if war comes, you shall endeavour to conduct it with honour and justice.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior
Madahajara
19-03-2005, 02:12
All I have to say is: Many shall be lost in this battle over religion. Those countries who have many broken families from this war, my country will be happy to take them in until they recover from their losses. You guys can all call me a pathetic loser, but my offer still holds.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:12
From: The High Board of Arragoth
To: Emma Sarie

We quite understand the concequences of war. We just ended a civil war in which half our kingdom was destroyed. Our people starved as we fought of that rebel scum, but when our beautiful flag was once again raised across the nation there was not a question in a single citizens mind that it was worth it. Our troops are well trained and hardened from battle. We have a coalition of billions and billions. Casualities will be slim, and in our eyes worth the price of Georgia Grenfeld's head. Our decision is not rash, we have all discussed and voted unanimously to go to war. The second one athiest is touched, Cristac will be reduced to nothing more then a pile of burning waste.

-Arragoth


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Nellisland
19-03-2005, 02:12
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Christac
19-03-2005, 02:15
OOC - For the love of pie, stop typing messages so fast. I would also like to make clear that these are not my own views and one of a fictional character before I continue.

IC - Perhaps a compromise can be made. There are only several million Atheists in Christac. They will be gotten rid of quickly. The others wont even notice they are missing. Surely we can just let a few million lives slip. In the grand scheme of things, they are not many, and they encourage others to sin. They are a problem in Christac, and need to be punished.

Georgia OOC-youv messaged so fast, i cant scroll down and find his last name
Head of State
Christac
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 02:17
To: The High Board of Arragoth
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Declaration of War on Christac

For a nation that has suffered the ravages of civil war, I am surprised that you are so eager to once more pick up the sword. I urge you to withhold your military until there is no other solution available.

Yours

Emma Sarie



To: All Involved
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Christac Situation

This urge to attack Christac and threatening them with violence is not helping the situation. We all know that as a coalition we could obliterate their nation, and leave them as a smouldering land. But I ask you, does this solve the problem and improve the lives of the people threatened by Christac?

If we turn our weapons on them without a peaceful attempt first, then we are no better than they are. I plead with you all not to jump into military action until all diplomatic avenues have been tested.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:20
Cristac apparently you haven't noticed you only have 62 million people. A few million is still roughly 4.8% of your population.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:20
Christac, we will not allow that concession. A few million lives is that, a few million. Don't allow yourself to become the largest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler. Many countries would be willing to take on all those refugees, ours included. Just allow us. We don't want war, and I don't think you want war.
Muktar
19-03-2005, 02:20
To: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Fr: Gux Kachetitok of the Muktari National Council
Re: Optimism versus Cynicism

First I would like to explain I do not normal speak on behalf of our nation. The other leading figures of the MNC, Akan Gamuknutar and Tika Thonratar, are dealing with diplomatic matters abroad. I apologize ahead of time if my words are harsh.
With that aside, I'm going to give you a primer on the history of our people. For thousands of years, before we ever unified as a nation, our race, our species was persecuted by our parent races, one of which is humanity. We faced "higher ideals" and "moral superiority" from the same people who spat atrocities in our faces. Even after we became a nation, which took an entire generation of war, we faced prejudice on all our borders.
We know what sort of mind comes from the marriage of malice and righteousness. Grenfeld is not of the mind for peace. Grenfeld thinks only of his own. There can be no peace from this. My apologies, Ksravi, but your optimism does not seem to connect with the reality of the situation.

Sincerely,
Gux Kachetitok
General of the Chetok Provincial Military
Council Seat in the Muktari National Council
Pracus
19-03-2005, 02:24
Message from Davin Prax I, Emperor of Pracus, et. al to Georgia Grenfeld
Head of State of Christac

The Royal Family and people of Pracus are pleased to hear that your land may be willing to reach a compromise in this matter that might allow all involve to avoid military action. The Empire of Pracus is willing to provide refuse to all Christaci atheists seeking to flee from this unjust tyranny. Our treasuries will dispatch such funds as are needed to transport and resettle any and all who would take our offer. With the permission of the government of Christac, we will buy any property that they cannot transport with them and resale it within the Christaci borders at fair market value, even taking a loss if we must. Please consider our offer and allow us to protect the sanctity of sapient life that we hold so dear.

Signed by Davin Prax I, Emperor of Pracus et. al.
Before Krischan Lake, Prime Minister and Lord of Pracus, et. al.








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Tsaraine
19-03-2005, 02:25
OOC: It's Grenfeld, and I'm just trying to stay afloat here. I well understand the difference between IC and OOC. Seems you've opened up rather a can of worms!


Message To: Head of State Georgia Grenfeld, Christac
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina, Tsaraine
Message Re: Unacceptable.

Esar Grenfeld,

Several million lives are several million lives too many to see you exterminate in the name of your God. In the grand scheme of things, who can say what difference one life can make? What would our world be without a Mozart, or a Da Vinci, or a Grenfeld? Surely mortals cannot tell.

If these atheists are a problem in Christac, many nations have offered to remove them from Christac, so that they no longer trouble the believers of your nation. I would add Tsaraine to that list, and urge you to take the gentler path.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior
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Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:28
To: Emma Sarie
From: The High Board of Arragoth

As a war torn nation we know the cost of trying to avoid war. While we were forced to try negotions by those in our region, they raped our women and children. The spat on our flags and ruined our crops. They demolished the momuments in which we put so much pride. If we do not act against Cristac, this movement will spread. It is up to the strong to defend the weak, and our best chance to defend them is to stop the movement before it starts. Your need for peace has blinded you from what needs to be done. We plead that you join our coalition as your amazingly huge country could contibute more then you can know.


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Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 02:29
To: Georgia Grenfeld, Head of State
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Atheists Out Policy

You are failing to see the simplest solution to this situation. Various nations are offering to give residency to your people; all we are asking is for an extension to your deadline in order for us to help remove all nationals wishing to leave. This would remove the need for any bloodshed.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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Christac
19-03-2005, 02:30
Grenfeld sat at his desk, thinking to himself.

these damn devil helpers were ruining his whole plan for a perfect Christac.

Had all the murders and eliminating the old HoS Saerat Helmz been for nothing?

No! He would not allow it, he would have to find another way for making these godless pay.

He picked up his laptop and typed

I have intersepted several messages and know what you are up to. If any of those armies get near my border, I will not only punnish those Atheists, but will punnish those who can't deside yet. Children, mentelly impared etc. I have given them the benefit of the doubt so far, but that can be removed.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:34
Armed Republic of Arthaga Nova spokespeople have announced a refined position on this crisis.

1) We have sent blimps to Christac encouraging the threatened citizens to accept the outreach of the current coalition of nations willing to accept them, reminding them that all expenses will be paid. All the rest of the citizens through this will be enlightened to the fact that their nation is going to become home of the largest genocide in recent history.

2) We are offering $60,000,000 to the Resi Corporation to not offer to assassinate all the non-conformists of Christac, twice what they would recieve in accepting the contract from the Christaci government.

3) We will keep up our negotiations with the Christaci and encourage all opposed to them to hold off any military action unless the Christaci begin the genocide.

4) We'd like to thank all our allies in this matter and would like to pledge support to them in this affair, which we hope will come to an end without bloodshed.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 02:34
The military of Nation of Fortune usually only enters wars that they have been contracted in, but at the word that your nation will punish it's own citizens if our troops show up, has caused our fabulous leader to bend this policy once. We are going to be sending troops in hopes that you will injure and harm your own population, just because our nation enjoys pain more than it should.
Christac
19-03-2005, 02:36
There are only 876 349 TWR left. They have another 20 hours left to my count. I am confident that they can make it out of here in time.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:36
NAtion of Fortune, please hold off on this, join our resistance. Arthaga Nova would be more than happy to make it worth your while.
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 02:39
To: The High Board of Arragoth
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Declaration of War on Christac

The Empire of Tartarus has in its history been involved in its share of conflicts, and has suffered many losses of lives. Over the years, we have steered clear of war, always looking for the peaceful way out of situations.

It is true that we are a large nation, and that if we chose to, our military could make a difference by becoming involved in conflicts, like this one could potentially turn into. But it is and always will be our stance to attempt to negotiate a peaceful end to situations that arise. We will only bring our forces into play as a last resort, and then only with total justification.

Yours

Emma Sarie

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Muktar
19-03-2005, 02:40
NoF: Rest assured, the price to restrain yourselves until war breaks out is well within the coalition's budget.

Christac: We request permission to bring in non-military naval vessels to begin evacuating the TWRs en masse. We are also glad you have extended the time for them to leave. Although it is not an official statement of the Muktari government, Counciler Gux suggested you read a Bible and hit yourself with it every time it says something that opposes your decisions on this matter.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:41
Frantic to save their religousless brothers, the high board thinks of ways to solve the problem. They quickly send an encrypted message to the main nations of the conflict in an attempt to gain their support.

To: Emma Sarie
CC: Tsaraine, Resi Corporation, Arthaga Nova
Regarding: Cristac Conflict
I believe I have come up with a better solution. As the problem only seems to be with Grenfeld, we only have to deal with him. We must take him out. Once he is dead we can set up a puppet leader until the people of Cristac vote upon a new leader. To do this we must get the cooperation of neighboring countries and get someone inside his regime. Emma Sarie I realize you are against any bloodshed, but this will require the least amount possible and will be most likely less then doing nothing. We must set up quickly as we only have about 8 hours left. If we could only get that deadline extended.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 02:41
NAtion of Fortune, please hold off on this, join our resistance. Arthaga Nova would be more than happy to make it worth your while.
remember, our nation would be at a loss for not having this pain happen. You better make it very worthwhile.

Cyrus Lanier
The Mercenary State of Nation of Fortune
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:41
Christac, we have a transport fleet coming in to your harbors within the hour, could you please make sure the last of them are at the docks?
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:43
Arragoth, we are not to make any plans yet. This crisis is close to over.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:44
Mr Lanier of the NoF, you name it and the coalition will do everything in its power to meet the demands.
Christac
19-03-2005, 02:44
Grenfeld looked up as his secretry burst into the room.

"Well. What is it!" He shouted loudly

"Well, we have a problem sir, it seems that somehow the population have found out about your plans sir" She said shaking

"WHAT! IMPOSIBLE! The media said nothing! How? When?"

"I seems" she said, now shaking more than ever "that giant balloons told them sir, and thats not the only thing, there are talks of those loyal to Saerat amassing in the east"

"We are going to have a riot on our hands when they find its true. Punnish as many of the TWR as we can, and try and scare as many away in a short time! Send a few Prophet Missiles to the East, that will sort them out"

"Yes sir" She said and ran through the door

"The people will realise how much better they are without these devils"
Tsaraine
19-03-2005, 02:44
Message To: Gux Kachetitok of the Muktari National Council
Message Fr: Arkhreifane of the Exterior Ksravi Ekina
Message Re: Re: Optimism versus Cynicism

Kuirau esar Kachetitok,

Thank you for your explanation.

I am, however, most certainly not optimistic about the outcome of this situation. It cannot but end badly, given the stated position of Georgia Grenfeld. What we can control - to some extent at least - is how badly it ends.

With his threat to "punish" children and the mentally ill for not conforming to his beliefs, Grenfeld is clearly morally bankrupt, but his people may not be; while Grenfeld himself seems to be steering his nation towards war, I ask that you conduct your offensive so as to minimise harm to these innocents.

It seems to be, now, all that I can do in this situation.

Sincerely,

~ Ksravi Ekina
Arkhreifane of the Exterior
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Christac
19-03-2005, 02:46
Christac, we have a transport fleet coming in to your harbors within the hour, could you please make sure the last of them are at the docks?

Some of them wont move, we will sort them out ourselves.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Muktar
19-03-2005, 02:47
To help satisfy NoF's sadistic nature, we are sending historical documentation on our nation's early history, focusing on the generation-long war against humans, orcs, and later elves. Not suitable for viewers under 21.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 02:48
Christac, we implore upon you to not take these actions, else there will be consequences. Our transport fleet has penty of defense and unless you want your army attacking the refugees to be sent to hell. Yes, hell.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:50
To who it may concern,
Even if the crisis is solved, Grenfeld is still in power and still a lunatic. More conflicts will arrise if he isn't handled. We are more then capable of this task, but would like concent of fellow nations in the matter.


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Christac
19-03-2005, 02:50
There are a good four hundred thousand in the ports don't you worry. The others wont budge. They will soon see how wrong they have been all these years.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 02:54
Mr Lanier of the NoF, you name it and the coalition will do everything in its power to meet the demands.
$550 billion plus expenses to move the troops is a modest proposal.


To help satisfy NoF's sadistic nature, we are sending historical documentation on our nation's early history, focusing on the generation-long war against humans, orcs, and later elves. Not suitable for viewers under 21.
we will use it as education documents in our nations "schools, and recreational youth activities"
Christac
19-03-2005, 02:55
Grenfeld pulled out a bunch of papers from inside his draw.

"Okay" He said to himself "there are about three hundred thousand left once the transport has arrived"

He continued working this out

"two hundred thousand or so are in camps, about fifty thousand have been punnished" He went red in the face "THAT LEAVES ANOTHER fifty or so thousand TWR left!"
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 02:56
At the hearing of Grenfeld's latest response Arragoth has sent a fleet of 20 helicopters, 50 fighters, and 10 bombers headed straight for Cristac's capital building. It does not plan to destroy any buildings unless fired upon, but the helicopters are loaded with the finest sharpshooters in Arragoth to take out the crazed dictator. It ends today.
Muktar
19-03-2005, 02:56
we will use it as education documents in our nations "schools, and recreational youth activities"Just make sure you save the tapes of the earlier war period for those who have hit puberty if you're using it as "recreational youth activities" videos. Anyone younger may not be capable of some of the "activities."
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 02:58
To: The Leaders of the Nation of Fortune
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Christiac Situation

It is obvious that you are here only to cause bloodshed. This situation would be better conducted without your interference.

Yours

Emma Sarie




To: The High Board of Arragoth
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Christiac Situation

Mr Glenfeld has given the TWRs twenty hours to leave their homeland. Although I fear this is not enough time for a full evacuation, it does increase the chances of saving more innocent lives.

Your plan, though possibly an answer for the future, is one that should be pushed aside until the safe removal of those whose lives are in imminent danger. And it is the risk to these people that should be paramount in our reactions to this situation.

Yours

Emma Sarie


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Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 02:58
At the hearing of Grenfeld's latest response Arragoth has sent a fleet of 20 helicopters, 50 fighters, and 10 bombers headed straight for Cristac's capital building. It does not plan to destroy any buildings unless fired upon, but the helicopters are loaded with the finest sharpshooters in Arragoth to take out the crazed dictator. It ends today.

The Leader of Kalthorn presents a notice to Arragoth:

I would like to congradulate you on being one of the only countries strong enough to take the correct course of action. As a sign of support, I will also send in 10 bombers that will aid you if things should go wrong.

Signed,
Lord Malachi
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 02:59
Just make sure you save the tapes of the earlier war period for those who have hit puberty if you're using it as "recreational youth activities" videos. Anyone younger may not be capable of some of the "activities."
We will use them as we see fit, ouur "schools" are made to handle this sort of thing.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:00
Grenfeld heard the noise of helicopters in the distance, he grabbed all the paper work he had and marched out the office. Looking down he saw several protesters.

The word had gotton out.

Marching straight past his general he ordered him to fire on the spectators and then acompany him to his bunker.

At this he heard the name outside, being chanted, and cheered.

"Saerat! Saerat!"

No, it can't be!

Running to the window he saw the old head of state walking though the crowds.

But it can't be him. He is dead

"What are you waiting for general? fire!, and then group the guards to the bunker!"
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 03:01
To: The Leaders of the Nation of Fortune
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Christiac Situation

It is obvious that you are here only to cause bloodshed. This situation would be better conducted without your interference.

Yours

Emma Sarie
At first that was the case, but then somone offered us a job, so as our duties as mercenaries state, we shall fight to the death as our contract states.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 03:01
The Arragoth fleet is now one hour from their destination. If the other countries don't get everything sorted out by that time, Arragoth will act.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:02
Press Conference of Emperator Arthas I, being broadcasted in all coalition countries, and over the balloons.

"The Nation Of Arthaga Nova has evacuated the final refugees who were at the docks. They are clear of the despotic hell that is Christac. Still, to the remaining citizens, hide and barricade yourself, for we will come to save you. The Nation of Arthaga Nova has become the first of the coalition to strike upon the oppresive Chrastci governement. Furthermore, we have anti-missle cruisers stationed near rebel sites, aiding them from strikes by the Christaci government. We Remind the citizens of Christac that we are not your enemy. Our only target is your corrupt, dictatorial government. We encourage you good citizens, in order to preserve the reputation fo your country and the sanctity of your religion to not allow this to happen. Aid your neighbors, even if they don't believe in what you do. To our allies in the coalition. I encourage you to follow our lead swiftly. Nation of Fortune, we will be mroe than happy to pay your demands, but to help us remove the Christaci government while sparing the citizens of the nation who don't resist. This is a dark hour for honor and integrity, let us see it through. Good luck. Emperator Arthas I."
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:05
I let your ships in to get the refugees, under the condition that it stopped war. Now you are going to war. And you call me evil!

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac

Bunker>Capitalbuild>www...

After typing this message, Grenfeld turned to his guards.

"tell the techs upstairs to arm all the Prophets and aim them at the docks, there has to be a good number still there, and no amounts of Anti Missile system could stop them all"

"Yes sir" said one of the guards before running upstairs.
Gehenna Tartarus
19-03-2005, 03:06
To: All Involved
CC: Ksravi Ekina, Arkhreifane of the Exterior
From: Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Re: Joint Annoucement

It was evident from the beginning that very few of you had any real compassion for the victims of an overzealous leader. Most of you came here for one reason and one alone, and that was to seek war upon this nation. You will end up killing more innocent people than if we had stood back and allowed Christac to murder their own.

It is with deep regret that we feel the need to step away from this situation, a sentiment shared with our allies from Tsaraine, and watch in horror as those of you intent on war paint the land in blood. Once the smoke clears, and the full extent of the conflict is weighed up, I hope that you feel justified in your actions.

Regards

Emma Sarie


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Kurqmenistan
19-03-2005, 03:08
...
Furthermore, Christians are to be known among the nations for our good works. ...
Sincerely,
Archbishop Leonard of Tarana

Now that's funny! :D
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 03:09
Arragoth is happy to see that alot were saved, but realize that isn't good enough. Their helicopters now circle the capital building while their planes circle above in the sky. They send a message to Grenfeld as well as a loud speaker message telling him to give him seld up to Arragoth custody or pay the concequences. The sharpshooters ready their guns and the bombers ready their ground penetrating bombs. The fighters search for any resistence along the horizon. One of the pilots notices Arthaga Nova's and smiles.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:10
To Christac: You have imprisoned and killed many of your own citizens already. We told you you let them all go, or war is declared.

To Ms. Sarie: We would like to point out that we tried to deal with the Christaci government, we evacuated as many as possible, and now, even though we have invaded, we are only attack supporters of their government, and are leaving everyone else alone.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:10
Now that's funny! :D

OOC - Hay lets not go down the road of actually arguing over peoples beleifs and mocking each others religions.
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:10
Lord Malachi laughed as he read the responce from Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Lord Malachi: A pity it is. People like that do not understand what must truely be done to solve this problem. Grenfeld must be taken care of one way or another. So what if a few civilians die in the process, at least I'll get to test out my new military aircraft...mwah ha ha!!

Lord Malachi presents a notice to Emma Sarie, Tartarian Minister for Foreign Affairs:
I am saddened to hear about your withdrawl from this issue. Know that we never wanted war in the first place, but something must be done about the tyrant Grenfeld and his oppressive grip. Unless something is done, more problems like the murder of athiests will appear in the future. I am however glad to see that most of them were evacuated.

Signed: Lord Malachi
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:11
OOC: The docks were cleared.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:13
I hear the bombs start dropping, I push the button, it would seem we have a stalemate, care to talk?

Need I remind all of you out there that the capital building is surrounded by protesters. You would be killing many more than I have killed if you bomb.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:14
Christac, what button, may I ask?
Muktar
19-03-2005, 03:15
OOC: But were the ships cleared? Firing upon the ships would definately be grounds for war...
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:16
OOC: I mentioned in my speech that I had my ships clear. They have taken action against the endangered citizens still in their country, that's our grounds for war.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:17
Christac, what button, may I ask?

I have Prophets aimed at all the heavily TWR areas, as well as many aimed at ships carrying refugees out the country. Who might I say are going slowly, maybe you should throw some off, it would go faster.

G Grenfeld
Head of State
Christac
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:17
*The Kalthronian bombers arrive at Christac*

Bomber Pilot: Commencing bombing run
Bomber Pilot 2: Roger

*The bombers begin to bomb the capital building, killing thousands. All in a total of 20 seconds this happens, and the Kalthornian jets pull back for the return to Kalthorn*

Bomber Pilot: Roger, the new test bombs have worked.
Bomber Pilot 2: Roger, returning to base.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:19
Kalthorn, would you mind letting this coalition know what in the hell that was about?
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 03:20
Arragoth asks its allies what they feel is best. They are confident that their bombs could penetrate any base that could be under the building. The protestors are being told to evacuate through the loudspeakers, so casualities should be at a minimum. All we need to do is give the bombers the OK and they will do their job. We really need Nova's feedback as it is thier ships being targeted.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:21
Climbing over rubble, Grenfeld reached for his laptop, coughing as he did from the dust.

He opened it up, the network was still up!

In a few keystokes he had set the Prophets ready to fire. All he had to do was click one more button, and the TWR would not trouble him again.

This was it
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:22
The leader of Kalthorn presents a notice to the Coalition:

I have just been informed that the Kalthornian bombers have fired upon the capital building without my permission. This, of course, is NOT tolerated. The pilots will be hereby punished under the full extent of the law and the entire air force will be put under federal investigation.

Signed,
Lord Malachi

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Emissary: The letter has been sent my Lord
Lord Malachi: Excellent. All we have to do is put up a phoney investigation, murder the pilots, and they'll all be none the wiser. I'm glad to see our test bombs worked, hopefully we will get to use them more in the future...
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 03:23
Seeing Grenfeld climb out of the rubble 3 of the sharshooters open fire. The first two nail him in the head, and the third coughs as he fires and accidently shoots the computer.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:24
ooc - someone kill this bastard of a charicter, he is anoying me, and im typing his story lol
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:24
ooc - oh thank you
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:26
Arthagan ground forces came rolling through the concentration camps, a majority of the camps surrendering without resistance as news of Christac's death was broadcasted over the balloons.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:26
OOC - I can't beleive you bombed those inocent protesters outside the building to test a bomb!
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:27
Arthagan ground forces came rolling through the concentration camps, a majority of the camps surrendering without resistance as news of Christac's death was broadcasted over the balloons.

OOC - Christacs the country dude. its Grenfeld
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:27
OOC - I can't beleive you bombed those inocent protesters outside the building to test a bomb!

OOC - Hah, well my guy is evil. I mean, come on. Lord Malachi? Malachi!?!? That is such an evil name.
Shuttathehellup
19-03-2005, 03:28
The Dictatorship of shuttathehellup only getting word of this now, due to not caring much about outside affairs has now turned their attention fully to the on going threat of full scale war.

The Dictatorship of Shuttathehellup will remain fully neutral in any war brought on by current events unless otherwise provoked by any nation. Although many our outraged in our avowdly athiest country the government has little interest in wasting funding on a otherwise lopsided assult.
Arragoth
19-03-2005, 03:28
TO: All involved
From: The High Board of Arragoth
It is in deep sorrow me mourn the deaths of the protestors, many which could have helped us. We are now sending a half a million missionaries for aid to whatever Cristac needs. Our fleet has landed in a small clearing nearbye and is setting up an emergency base. The generals involved in this attempted genocide will be forgivin in our eyes, but will be watched very closely. Hopefully now that Grenfeld is gone Cristac can once again be a peaceful country.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:29
OOC: Derp. Sorry. Yeah. Meant that. 60 sleepless hours can do that to you, especially when also watching an engaging TV show like the West Wing. And I am human.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 03:31
Cyrus Lanier sat in his office, getting word of the death of Grenfield. He told his underlings to send a message to Arthaga Nova inquiring about the funds, and asking what they would like his men to do.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:32
OOC - Hah, well my guy is evil. I mean, come on. Lord Malachi? Malachi!?!? That is such an evil name.

Yeah, I guess it sounds like an evil name. Also sounds like Yu-Gi-Oh's arch nemisis.
Sphinx the Great
19-03-2005, 03:34
Sphinx the Great!
"You have questions? So do we."

Minutes -emergency session-

Debate at the National Council of Civil Rights concerning the Potentate of Christac, and their stance against all Atheists in their country.

In Attendance
Sphinx - President of Sphinx the Great
Julie Swanwater - Head Department of Civil affairs
Andy Stillrock - Representative - First Church of the Sphinx
Joseph Anyland - Representative - all Minor religions in Sphinx the Great
Suzanna Mountain - Representative Pagan sector
Andy Warfish - Self proclaimed Evil Atheist Conspirator (aka head - Atheistic Society of Sphinx the Great)
Lisa Heidik - Representative - all others
Steven Warlord - Secretary of Defence
Rebekah Ellsworth - Head - CIA-STG

Council comes to order

Sphinx - As you have heard, the Potentate of Christac had put a death sentence on all atheists in their country if they refuse to "convert". This is a blatant breach of human rights is unacceptable and we need to do something to help. I am open to any and all opinions and suggestions.

Anyland - I agree that this is an outrage, but what can we do? We are just one nation?

Warlord - Well, there's always military action.

Swanwater - True, but how many people will die as a result of a preemptive strike?

Mountain - Probably thousands. And most of them will be civilians, no doubt.

Warfish - Yes. And many of those will be the same people we are trying to save.

Sphinx - Well, it is an option. Any other suggestions?

Swanwater - How about sending in a relief vessel to aid in picking up refugees?

Ellsworth - That's a good idea, but from what we have been receiving from reconnance, they are not allowing anyone in for a rescue mission.

Heidik - What if we sneak our way in and pull all of them out of there?

Stillrock - If we do that, we risk going to war.

Swanwater - Yes, but if we don't, these innocent people will die.

Stillrock - Better them than us.

Anyland - I cannot believe that you just said that.

Well, it's true. My church stands for peace. I do not want to go to war over this. You and your pansy "other church" have lost your way. You need to turn to the light, brother.

Sphinx - You are entitled to your opinion, but we are trying to figure out how to save these people. Not how to have them killed. If you don't like it, then you may leave.

Stillrock - OK. I'm outta here.

Sphinx - Ellsworth? (nods towards the door that Stillrock just exited.)

Ellsworth - Yes sir. Attention unit 347. Please follow Mr Stillrock. He just left the building? Can you still follow him? Good. Do it.

Sphinx - Ok. Now where were we? Oh yes. Sending in a rescue vessel.

Warlord - That might not be the best option.

Sphinx - Oh? What do you suggest?

Warlord - I suggest that we contact the other countries in that region and set up a rescue mission "underground railroad" style.

Sphinx - The who what now?

Warfish - You know. The Underground Railroad. How the slaves in the States escaped to their freedom with the help of sympathetic citizens? This was around the time of their Civil War.

Sphinx - Ah yes. I remember now. They eventually were all freed. Correct?

Warlord - Yes sir, but the country was thrown into civil war over it. and the repercussions lasted for well over a century.

Warfish - Do you think Christac will go into a Civil War?

Warlord - Anything is possible.

Mountain - Are you suggesting that we make that happen?

Swanwater - NO! You can't!!!

Sphinx - Please, sit down... NOW.

Swanwater - Yes sir.

Warlord - No, I am not suggesting that we cause a civil war. If it is going to happen, nothing that we do will help or prevent it. It is the natural progression of things. It's the path nations must sometimes take to grow.

Warfish - OK. But would you please clarify as to what "exactly" you are suggesting?

Warlord - Yes. I am suggesting that, with the help of some of the countries in that and surrounding regions, we create an "underground railroad" of sorts. Some of us will get caught and no doubt hanged, but that's why I also suggest that this be completely voluntary. No one person will be forced to take action against their will.

Sphinx - That sounds like the best plan so far. How do you suggest execution?

Warlord - First, we need to contact those other countries.

Warlord - Next, we need to establish friendly contacts inside this "Christac " and try to receive as much information as we can about the citizens of this nation and the lay of the land.

Warlord - The rest can be discussed when we have our allies in place.

Sphinx - Alright. Are their any questions?

Sphinx - No? OK. I want you all to go home and get some rest. The next few days are going to be intense.


Sphinx - By the order of the Great Sphinx, I hear by declare this meeting ended.
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:34
OOC - Hah, well my guy is evil. I mean, come on. Lord Malachi? Malachi!?!? That is such an evil name.

OOC - lol, same here, but Grenfeld isnt exactly an evil name.

well let me try and end this story in Christac;

Saerat who was suposidly dead became HoS again. Grenfeld was gone forever. And yes; he went to hell, where he burned in a deep pit for all aternity. After hearing of his death, many Atheists headed back to Christac, although the population will never be the same again. The capital building is being rebuilt with a statue of those who died here next door. Those major supporters of Grenfeld are being traced to go in for trial, but many have changed names and dissapired. The secetary if you want to know has led an amazing career as a dentist. Well thats about it for Christac.
Muktar
19-03-2005, 03:35
OOC: Missed Christac's latest post.
IC:
Muktar will provide aid in maintaining peace and reconstruction, with the permission of the new Head of State.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:38
Nation Of Fortune, we have wired all of your payment to your national account through your federal bank. We wish for you to stay and help in reconstruction and humanitarian support, making sure it all goes smoothly. We are keeping our troops that are there already for that purpose.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:40
OOC: Muktar, Prophets were missles.
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:41
An emmisary arrives with a note, which is presented to the coalition:

Dearest Coalition,
It is my deepest regret that things had to turn out this way. As a result, the men responcible were executed and our entire airforce is under investigation. Although we are directly responcible for the bombing and the deaths of the civilians, we will not be offering any humanitarian aid. Of course, this will bring great outrage to you all, but our funds are needed elsewhere for the time being.

Deepest apologies,
Lord Malachi
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:43
Kalthorn, would you at least be willing to give a public apology to the wounded and families of the dead protesters?
Sphinx the Great
19-03-2005, 03:43
Obviously, Sphinx the Great's network of spies is running a bit slow today. We still offer any support needed.
The Philosophes
19-03-2005, 03:43
The Democratic Republic of the Philosophes would like to express its horror and outrage at this unimaginably theocratic and destructive act. It hereby opens its borders freely to any citizen of Christac, atheist or otherwise, who wishes to avoid persecution, death, or continued existence in such an unaccepting nation.

-DRP
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 03:44
There was much protesting of the NoF troops that were sent to Christac. They protested to their commanders, who responded to them with the response, "this is the life of a mercenary, sometimes you fight, sometimes you destroy, sometimes you build, and sometimes you sit in a meaningless spot, protecting it from nonexsitant enemies.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:45
OOC: Christac? Maybe you want to change the first post, add a note or something, we are still getting people playing the first page scenario.
The Resurgent Dream
19-03-2005, 03:46
OOC - Hah, well my guy is evil. I mean, come on. Lord Malachi? Malachi!?!? That is such an evil name.

((OOC: Malachi is a holy prophet from the Bible.))
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:47
OOC - Lol ok. IC - Saerat was standing there, in the middle of his old Capital building, rubble and bodies all around, only a few days ago he was one of these. A victim of a maniac.

Saerat's suit was ruined, his tie in a mess, covered in bits of broken plaster board. But he was alive and ready to rule his country again.

It is amazing how much can happen in a couple of days he said to himself as he walked down the stairs into the bunker. It was still there for the time being. Something needed to be done. He walked up to one of the computers in the corner

Thank you for your support, and for eliminating that maniac, I hope that this does not effect any relations between our countries, and I ask you please to leave our lands as soon as you can.

Saerat Helmz
The rightfull Head of State
Christac
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 03:48
NoF, if you want your forces to pull out, we'd be more than happy to let them go, for a portion of our payment back, if that is alright.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 03:48
OOC: Arthaga Nova, I sort of want to do an RP involving the "schools" in my nation TG me if your interested.
Kalthorn
19-03-2005, 03:53
*A television broadcast is set up*

Lord Malachi: Dear citizens of Christac. I would like to formally apologize for the bombing incident which occured earlier today. It was my intention that the bombers would only act if fired upon. Against orders, they deliberatly went ahead and fired anyways. For this...outrage, the pilots have been executed and I have placed the entire airforce under investigation and all airplanes are to be grounded until further notice. I promise you that I will not rest until I find out who is responcible for this. My sincerest apologies go out to the families of the victims and their friends.

*The television broadcast ends*

Lord Malachi: How was that?
Elite Guard: Most excellent my lord, I'm sure they were all fooled.
Lord Malachi: That is great news. I want to start preparing a phony investigation. Find a scapegoat, and kill him. Then we'll begin to construct more powerful bombs than the previous ones. That bombing...test...was just what we needed...
Christac
19-03-2005, 03:55
*A television broadcast is set up*

Lord Malachi: Dear citizens of Christac. I would like to formally apologize for the bombing incident which occured earlier today. It was my intention that the bombers would only act if fired upon. Against orders, they deliberatly went ahead and fired anyways. For this...outrage, the pilots have been executed and I have placed the entire airforce under investigation and all airplanes are to be grounded until further notice. I promise you that I will not rest until I find out who is responcible for this. My sincerest apologies go out to the families of the victims and their friends.

*The television broadcast ends*

Lord Malachi: How was that?
Elite Guard: Most excellent my lord, I'm sure they were all fooled.
Lord Malachi: That is great news. I want to start preparing a phony investigation. Find a scapegoat, and kill him. Then we'll begin to construct more powerful bombs than the previous ones. That bombing...test...was just what we needed...


OOC - LOL nice :)
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 03:58
NoF, if you want your forces to pull out, we'd be more than happy to let them go, for a portion of our payment back, if that is alright.
OOC: No, It's fine, I want it to lead into that RP I was talking about
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:00
OOC: Oooh, I think I smell another crisis forum in a few days.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:13
Mr. Helmz, we will not hold grudges against your country. In fact, we hope that this has strengthened our relationship. We'll leave you be soon as we can.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 04:16
OOC: Arthas can you have some of your higher up troops interact with some of my troops that are working on something?
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:17
OOC: Sure. Go right ahead.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:30
OOC: NoF, you going first here?
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 04:34
OOC: NoF, you going first here?
OOC:I'm writing up that other RP's OOC: thread, so I was hoping you would go first
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:36
OOC: -Not sure what should happen- Sorry, I need a bit of egging. No sleep since Wednesday morning, terrible head cold, and now I am doing some paperwork too.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 04:37
OOC: -Not sure what should happen- Sorry, I need a bit of egging. No sleep since Wednesday morning, terrible head cold, and now I am doing some paperwork too.
OOC: jsut have them run into some of my troops I'll continue the prompt from there.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:41
Sam Jameson was out on patrol, he and squad was going around, making sure everyone was settled all nice and tight. He got to a restaurant, where a few soldiers stood. They weren't his uniform, so he approached them, never seeing an enemy before, rookie.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 04:46
Several of the NoF mercenaries were stationed near a crumbling restruant, when they noticed that a soldier was approaching them, they immediatly recognized the uniform as Arthagas Nova. Two of the four of them turned and hid their faces, as unusually short as they seemed for soldiers. The other two remained silent, and held their FNP-90's at port arms.

OOC: check your TG's
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:49
Sam approached the soldiers. "Excuse me, may I see some identification?"
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 04:54
"We're NoF Mercenaries," responded the taller of the two men who were standing there, he pulled out his dog tags they read

MSoNoF certified sniper
Cedric McCain
79000-08219

the shorter of the two who were facing him produced his and they read

MSoNoF
Brian Digby
79000-28223

the other two soldier's did nothing
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 04:57
"Ah, NoF boys, eh?" Sam said with a chuckle. "I thought maybe I'd actually get to fire this rifle at something that wasn't paper and wood."
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 05:00
"Someday I'm sure you will get to shoot at something a bit more fleshy," said Cedric.

OOC: hint hint inquire about the other two
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 05:18
"Heh, according to policy though, if I don't see any info from your two chums over there" gesturing to the two silent folk "they will be these more fleshy targets. Don't want to, just following rules."
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 05:34
they slowly turned around, they appeared to be aged 12 and 14. They produced their dogtags

MSoNoF youth cadet
Feidhlim Conlaed
79000-18212

MSoNoF youth cadet
Fechine Dooley
79000-38214

Both of them had a tattoo visable on his neck, it was a tally mark. Their were either 5 on one and 13 marks on the other. As sam looked at the other soldiers necks he noticed similar tattoo's, with tallies that were uncountable by just a glance, but probably ranged up in the 100's
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 05:36
"What's the ink about?" Sam asked puzzled, trying to decide if these two were really as old as they looked. ((Even though Arthaga Nova has these kind of things too, I'm pretending their drafting age is 18))
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 05:38
"What's the ink about?" Sam asked puzzled, trying to decide if these two were really as old as they looked. ((Even though Arthaga Nova has these kind of things too, I'm pretending their drafting age is 18))
"Kill counts," Cain said

((aounds good thats what I was hoping for))
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 05:42
Sam suddenly felt unworthy of his gun and uniform as he realized he wouldn't have any of the tattoos. "Hey, how old are you all?"
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 05:51
Sam suddenly felt unworthy of his gun and uniform as he realized he wouldn't have any of the tattoos. "Hey, how old are you all?"
"Our age, rank, and unit, is on our dog tags, so you figure it out. Most of us have lost track of this information." Cedric said, pointing out the information on his dog tag
79000-08219
"the battalion Number"
79000-08219
"the rank at a level other than squad, two zero's mean general infantry, and the list goes on"
79000-08219
"rank, the lower the number, the higher the rank, although it only applies for squad level"
79000-08219
"The squad number"
79000-08219
"My age"
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 06:01
Sam paused, froze in wonder, face of awe. "Is this a mistake?" He asked, looking over the tag numbers again.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 06:17
Brian looked around to make sure no one was looking. He saw nobody. He quickly drew his knife and wrapped his arm around sam's neck, holding the knife to his throat. Cedric raised his weapon, cocked it and pointed it at Sam.
"Yes, you were right, they are young little bastards. Now your not gonna say a thing to anyone. Not about this threat either. I will assign some people from a different squad to watch you. You will not see them, but I will make sure they make themselves known. If they even think you are going to say anything, they will kill you.....painfully...... Now we have a deal?"
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 06:21
"What, what the hell is this?" Sam questioned, half demanding, half about-to-piss-his-uniform.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 06:24
"What, what the hell is this?" Sam questioned, half demanding, half about-to-piss-his-uniform.
"I guess I didn't make myself clear. Your NOT going to say anything about these young soldiers. If I have to ask again you will die, if you say anything, you will die." After saying this he started screwing a silencer on his FNP-90
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 06:28
Sam was starting to shake in fear "Are you not supposed to have these kids?"

"Yo Sam, Sam, where are you?" Two guys were walking down the road and spotted the situation, drawing their guns.

Sam looked over to them "Ah...ah...ah... nothing really, these boys, err... guys were just... telling a story... they are rather spirited... and like.. to.. act some parts out."
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 06:33
"So anyway, Brian here pulled his knife on this enemy troops on the front lines, and thats how he got his thirty second kill." Cedric said, without even breaking a sweat. He winked his left eye at Sam as he was let go. As Sam started walking away, he stepped out into the street, so he could watch Sam. Brian radioed squad number 80 for a "cleanup"
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 06:37
Sam and the two other guys walked dow the sidewalk away.

"Hey, Sam, you look as scared as 2 year old girl, what's wrong?"

"Oh... uh... nothing, I think I'm getting a cold, that's all."
Suur-Finlantia
19-03-2005, 09:41
OH CO'MON!!
I support ATHEISTS!
We are gonna execute ALL except ATHEISTS!!
:mp5:

HAHAHAHAAA
Suur-Finlantia
19-03-2005, 11:47
WE Armied forces of Suur-Finlantia want ONLY atheists to our country and were ready to fight for it....I hope other nations will do to same for their people
Lets take down couple christians etc. :mp5:
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 16:45
OOC: Holy crap, you know how they say "Better late than never"? I think this is one time where that rules doesn't apply.
Nation of Fortune
19-03-2005, 16:47
OOC: Holy crap, you know how they say "Better late than never"? I think this is one time where that rules doesn't apply.
OOC: one time? If he had actually all of the first post, then he would see that it's over.
Arthaga Nova
19-03-2005, 16:58
OOC: Wow, yes. I didn't even notice he updated the first post,