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Secret IC to Coreworlds.
My nation has recently come upon information regarding an enemy plot. Here you go.
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Here's a basic battleplan that Metallinauts sent me. Should anyone have objections with this plan, please post them. We can't make it better if we don't notice mistakes.
Attack Plan 1.0
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so... I'm not needed then? oh well.
my Jordaxians already KNOW about a secret Sith base on Endor given that they attacked it... might be worth neutralising Endor whether it's there or not. Might be some Ewoks left.
CF, remember... Ewoks are xenos.
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The idea behind this is that we spread them thin. Also wih our Super Powers Spread thin they can't bulk up one force to push us back.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
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Or, in text form:
Strike Group Alpha, Myself, Metallinauts, and Lord Ragen will be hitting Bakura, Fondor, and Reesee on the way to Coruscant.
Strike Group Beta, Skeelzania, Penguenia, and Blasea will be hitting Agamar, Ord Mantell, and Ithor on the way to Coruscant.
Strike Group Delta, Kanuckistan, Crystal Palais, TST, and BC will be hitting Ison, Hoth, Bespin, Vargnat, Yag'Dhul, and Duro on their way to Coruscant.
The idea behind SG-Delta's route is to draw off as much of the GE's strength as possible to combat the huge TST/Kanuckistan/CP threat while the other two SGs move in and destroy targets of oppertunity.
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Delta is waaaay overstretched, and it totally bypasses Corellia,
which I had thought was decided to be a prime target.
Beta is a waste of power, imo, but the distraction could work.
Alpha's final target before Coruscant should be Corellia instead of Reecee,
add Reecee to Beta, and possibly
Delta should begin on Endor, then continue to Bespin,
then continue its current course.
Meh.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:21 am Post subject:
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Good ideas Penguenia. Changes are forthcoming.
Jordaxia, you want to be added to Delta?
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I will join Delta.
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The Mindset wrote:
I will join Delta.
Aye. It shall be done.
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I edited in some mistakes I made in describing, take note.
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hell, I'm the type of nation that'd work best attacking everywhere, but if you insist on limiting my deployment to just one field (I insist on it, three different RPs would be unmanageable for me) , delta might be the best. However, simply by intelligent tactics, we need to balance a fleet. Our advantage is in that we don't just use imperial technology, which, TECHNICALLY is quality over quantity, not huuge numbers of ships. We should be distributing the fleet so that we have a good number of small, medium, and large ships to cover each other, basic combined arms. Basically, our diversity is our very biggest asset, and we should ensure that every fleet takes advantage of that.
So yes, my ships would do especially well covering, and being covered by, Kanuckistani warships.
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Possibly we should establish a beachhead in the outer rim by warping in a
station complex. This would be the connection to our galaxy and a safe
jump-in point, as well as logistical and assembling center. Our big wig strategy
Admirals would be here as well.
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It makes a lot of sense, militaristically speaking, if we established a forward supply line within GE space prior to any military activity. Preferably near a gas giant so my Battleforges can refuel.
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I'm putting in a mobile field base. Penguenia, can you provide some sort of mobile command center for Beta? Mindset, can I tap a similar asset for you and delta? We could have each strike group completely independent of the others.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:43 am Post subject:
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Endor is a gas giant and makes a suitable starting point for Delta, says I. (I'm not desperate to attack Endor, but in light of that info, it makes even more strategic sense than ever.)
I can bring in some supply bases, but it'll take me a few RL days to convert the preg-tests to become supply ships instead of command ships. They're big enough though, and I can bring three through.
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Ok we need volunteers for heads of each force...
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If either Kanuck' or mindset wants it, then I'd say give them delta. if not, I'd like to command it.
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Actually, I'm afraid I might not have time for this in the coming month or so due to exams. It's probably best not to include me until I confirm all my timetables.
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
I'm putting in a mobile field base. Penguenia, can you provide some sort of mobile command center for Beta? Mindset, can I tap a similar asset for you and delta? We could have each strike group completely independent of the others.
I'd rather see one large complex of bases on the far outer rim or outside the outer rim. Forward bases can be established on the first conquered worlds. This way our nerve center/s is/are not as vulnerable as if we had 3 scattered about.
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The Mindset wrote:
Actually, I'm afraid I might not have time for this in the coming month or so due to exams. It's probably best not to include me until I confirm all my timetables.
Alrighty
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The Mindset wrote:
Actually, I'm afraid I might not have time for this in the coming month or so due to exams. It's probably best not to include me until I confirm all my timetables.
Damn. I already did up the map!
Eh, we'll just say that mindset is a *maby.*
Here it is by the way:
Attack Plan 1.a
It's got all the changes you folks proposed, as well as a few that have their roots via MSN.
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hehe, good good, glad to see my plan meets approval. I don't think I have any more suggestions other than to attack Kuat, should the opportunity present itself, and rid him of his primary ISD facility. As for our base.... the pregs would probably be best as mobile forward bases, and as I said, I can give three, one for each attack... we can't have a PCC simply because our attacking forces are so widespread, meaning that wherever we put it will mean much travelling for our ships and be a liability... there's no way a single facility will work.
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Attack Plan 1.a/peng.
Just updated the style a bit and added my proposed base plan. I can rewrite it without the echelon base strategy, if it is disagreed with.
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I'm extremely loathe to launch any sort of offensive action without my Kanuckistani defense platform, but if I must I'll send the bulk of my fleet. We're going to be dealing with primarily SW tech right?
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Do they use Star Wars FTL?
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yes, they use SW ftl, and it's very very quick, but mainly confined to lanes, given that it tends to hit planets and stars over long distances.
This I have copied from my msn convo with metallinauts concerning the bases.
I say we should move it nearer to strike point alpha to allow them to cover it. Beta and Delta are so close together that they can combine supply bases, and we have two main sites. One at beta/delta and the other at alpha, which would be smaller.
opinions?
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Some sort of fast strike force might be useful in cutting their jump lanes. Drop a few artificial gravity wells in their path and send them hurling into a sun or something. Would help break up the fleets and buy us time for secure a beach head.
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In that case we know they're restricted to a select few exit routes from a system. Sounds like an easy way to ambush them.
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Jordaxia wrote:
I say we should move it nearer to strike point alpha to allow them to cover it. Beta and Delta are so close together that they can combine supply bases, and we have two main sites. One at beta/delta and the other at alpha, which would be smaller.
Alpha and Delta are close to eachother, Beta is in the North (1,2,3rd fleets). That plan could work, though.
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Penguenia wrote:
Jordaxia wrote:
I say we should move it nearer to strike point alpha to allow them to cover it. Beta and Delta are so close together that they can combine supply bases, and we have two main sites. One at beta/delta and the other at alpha, which would be smaller.
Alpha and Delta are close to eachother, Beta is in the North (1,2,3rd fleets). That plan could work, though.
Sorry, I meant the uppermost one as alpha and beta/delta as the two bottom strikes.
I say we move any PCC nearer to beta, and have alpha/delta running on a single, larger facility. There we go.
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That sounds good.
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I don't know how canon these guys are, but I did some research on Agamar. If I'm reading this right its an isolated backwater of a world with an agricultural based economy, hardly the place for a beach head.
Now the planet of Janius, which isn't on your maps but is somewhere to the southwest, is apparently some sort of trading hub with heavy traffic. It might have the infastructure the 2nd Fleet needs.
http://map.galaxy-force.com/
Here's the map site.
EDIT: Southwest, my mistake.
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Skeelzania wrote:
I don't know how canon these guys are, but I did some research on Agamar. If I'm reading this right its an isolated backwater of a world with an agricultural based economy, hardly the place for a beach head.
Now the planet of Janius, which isn't on your maps but is somewhere to the northwest, is apparently some sort of trading hub with heavy traffic. It might have the infastructure the 2nd Fleet needs.
http://map.galaxy-force.com/
Here's the map site.
Actually, that's perfect. For a beach-head, we want to create the minimum amount of fuss. The allies didn't try to make a beach-head on the biggest part of the atlantic wall in WW2, did they? A small, agricultural world won't be missed in the SW universe, given the only ships they ever see are the cargo ships to coruscant and other plasteel worlds, and they only arrive every once in a while.
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Jordaxia wrote:
Actually, that's perfect. For a beach-head, we want to create the minimum amount of fuss. The allies didn't try to make a beach-head on the biggest part of the atlantic wall in WW2, did they? A small, agricultural world won't be missed in the SW universe, given the only ships they ever see are the cargo ships to coruscant and other plasteel worlds, and they only arrive every once in a while.
Maybe, though they didn't waste any time trying to grab one.
Ithor is a bloody tourist trap "harmonious with nature" and probably has no militiary infrastructure to speak of. Fortunately it seems to straddle that big northern trade lane, which waraants an invasion. However, instead of being the second target I say we dispatch a fast strike force here first. They'll seize the worlds, cut the tradelanes, and make off with any loot thats to be had. And gas the civilians, just so theres no witnesses.
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Ord Mantel is a junkyard world and home to the bounty hunters, with its cities clustered arond the equator. I advise against a planetary invasion of this system, as the terrain would make guerrilla resistance easy. The second fleet should neutralize the population centers quickly; their clusteredness should make that easy.
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Ord Mantell is a prime target.
However, I feel we should ask Sith himself what map he uses (unless this is it), as there are so many different SW universe maps.
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Skeelzania wrote:
Ord Mantel is a junkyard world and home to the bounty hunters, with its cities clustered arond the equator. I advise against a planetary invasion of this system, as the terrain would make guerrilla resistance easy. The second fleet should neutralize the population centers quickly; their clusteredness should make that easy.
Perhaps we can *hire* those bounty hunters?
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I'm assuming GE is more based in Imperial than Old/New Republic fiction? The Janius sector, through which my fleets must initially pass, is rich in Jedi-related worlds whose destruction might prove useful. Also one of them is the capital of the New Republic apparently.
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
Skeelzania wrote:
Ord Mantel is a junkyard world and home to the bounty hunters, with its cities clustered arond the equator. I advise against a planetary invasion of this system, as the terrain would make guerrilla resistance easy. The second fleet should neutralize the population centers quickly; their clusteredness should make that easy.
Perhaps we can *hire* those bounty hunters?
Their xenos that just happen to look human. I'm sure GE will pour trillions into their pockets to get them to harrass our supply lines, and an insurgency is something I don't want to deal with.
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True, true. Skeelzania, you have a very good point.
Indra says that a MAJOR suggestion is coming in soon. He's detailed some of it to me, and it seems solid.
Edit: Indra also says he donates the use of his SCC mobile command ship to assist us. The stats he provided are pretty potent.
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Right, I've got Fenix in with my preg-tests, he can perform a vital part of the ground forces that we need, considering that he has sacrificed the space-going navy for troops, he'll be a tough nut to bowl over. Since I'm bringing in my three preg-tests to help out, he's going to be stationed in the cargo bays, one of which will be dashing up to meet with battlefleet beta, for secure transport to the privateer location. Once there, we'll begin to tie up the Imperial farming bases there (such as Dantooine) with some severe Tiberium strikes, prompting the farmers to call for imperial assistance. The tiberium, being a real bugger to clean up, will provide constant trouble, leaving us to wreak havok everywhere else. essentially, I plan to draw a large portion of the imperial fleet out to the freelance sector, because if they don't keep the farmers happy, they become disloyal, and if they rebel, they don't have food for coruscant. And if they can't catch us anyway, their farming bases are going to be nothing more than tiberium. They need to come and catch us, and given poor communications, and it's extreme range from the core, we'll be long gone each time, leaving us in a position to dictate their movement, and that is a primary goal in any campaign.
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Central Facehuggeria
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:43 am Post subject:
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The problem is that no matter what, due to OOC reasons we *are* getting out of the GE galaxy the first time. Perhaps we should save some of these strategies for the second invasion, which will happen in the future?
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blaesa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:
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Question: How fast is Hyperdrive ©? I want to know if my KK ships can outrun them.
And I have an ally to bring in: my brother, Ald Rhun. I'll fill him in on some tactical points, with your permission. He basically uses the same stuff as me, with some stuff from other storefronts. Your basic rag-tag armada. Oh, and he likes nukes. Very much. You might want to add him to the farm raiders...
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Skeelzania
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject:
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
The problem is that no matter what, due to OOC reasons we *are* getting out of the GE galaxy the first time. Perhaps we should save some of these strategies for the second invasion, which will happen in the future?
So our defeat is pre-determined? Cool then, no regrets. *cracks open a bottle of Agent Orange*
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Central Facehuggeria
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject:
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Skeelzania wrote:
Central Facehuggeria wrote:
The problem is that no matter what, due to OOC reasons we *are* getting out of the GE galaxy the first time. Perhaps we should save some of these strategies for the second invasion, which will happen in the future?
So our defeat is pre-determined? Cool then, no regrets. *cracks open a bottle of Agent Orange*
Yup. It is. So you don't have to worry about collateral damage nearly as much as if this was real as opposed to Sith anti-ESUS wank.
I for one will be burning everything that I can't take with me back to Sol.
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Torontonias
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject:
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I'd like to join up with this if there is still room, just stick me in somewhere manpower is needed. I want to try my new Army out when it's finished...
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Central Facehuggeria
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Sure, Torontias. Just tell us where you'd like to go.
Oh, and this RP is starting on saturday, according to US. (Don't remember if this was posted or not, but it's good to reiterate.)
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Penguenia
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject:
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
Oh, and this RP is starting on saturday, according to US. (Don't remember if this was posted or not, but it's good to reiterate.)
Sunday? Oh my. That's soon. Perhaps we should begin noncombat prep on the forums so we're not caught with our pants down.
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Central Facehuggeria
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject:
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Penguenia wrote:
Central Facehuggeria wrote:
Oh, and this RP is starting on saturday, according to US. (Don't remember if this was posted or not, but it's good to reiterate.)
Sunday? Oh my. That's soon. Perhaps we should begin noncombat prep on the forums so we're not caught with our pants down.
Nope. Saturday. A whole day before Sunday.
Seriously though, I'm not sure how you want us to begin noncombat prep. The whole reason for invading the GE comes from a metallinauts probe being blasted. ICly, we *can't* be ready yet.
OOCly, we should begin prepping.
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Torontonias
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject:
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I'll go in Alpha Division under you and Metallinauts, that seems the most underpowered at the moment.
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Penguenia
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That's a lame reason to start a war, really. I thought we would be going to conquer, as in on a conquest of our IC and OOC rivals.
However, I didn't know the circumstances that the conflict would start under as it wasn't posted here, so meh.
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Central Facehuggeria
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject:
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Penguenia wrote:
That's a lame reason to start a war, really. I thought we would be going to conquer, as in on a conquest of our IC and OOC rivals.
However, I didn't know the circumstances that the conflict would start under as it wasn't posted here, so meh.
Hey, I didn't think of it. At least I know why *I'm* going in, and that's to conquer stuff and purge Xenos.
Edit: Yes, it is a flimsy reason for war. But I think that's the point, it's a thinly veiled act of intergalactic imperialism.
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Shadow Tech
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject:
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We could all learn of the destruction of the prove, then secretly agree (as in IC between the ESUS only but still post it on the boards to look less lame) that it is a great opportunity to invade.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: Battle Plan and Strike Group Charlie
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Battle Plan: Divide and Conquer
Here’s what I propose. We already have three Strike Groups, Alpha, Bravo, and Delta which I fully agree with. Their battle plans seem to hold up to scrutiny. However, there is an aspect that needs to be added to make the GE work for their intended target of repelling the ESUS Attack Fleet. In any good battle campaign, a good commander does not put all of his eggs in one basket. There is always a second strategy and a second method of deployment that will throw the enemy off guard.
My Plan is three fold.
1. A fourth group, Strike Group Charlie (main wing), will enter the galactic scene from the GE’s left flank. They will jump into the inner rim, just outside the planetary systems of Bilbringi and Reecee simultaneously just as Strike Groups Alpha, Bravo, and Delta are assaulting the planetary systems of Corelli, Ithor, and Duro, respectively. With the bulk of the GE fleet otherwise distracted by the main invasion force in those three systems, the Bilbringi and the Reecee systems will easily fall to Charlie. From there, SGC will punch through to Coruscant.
2. Strike Group Charlie will have two wings, the main attack wing which will attack from the Left Flank, and the Secondary Wing which will be used as a diversionary tactic against any hiding GE Fleet Vessels in the Right Flank of the Galactic Rim. The Vessels in the Right Flank will jump into the Mid Galactic Rim just outside the Tholatin Planetary System. If this fleet goes unnoticed by US and the GE they will begin pushing their way through to the galactic core, which would undoubtedly get themselves notices by the enemy. Once they are detected and gain their attention, the Secondary wing will retreat out of the area, thus pulling some of the enemy fleet out of position for a strike to take place. The Secondary Wing will then jump to the other side of the Galaxy where they will join the rest of Strike Group Charlie and the invasion of Coruscant from the Left Flank. By this time, the rest of the SGs should be approaching Coruscant.
3. A small detachment of Cruisers and Frigates should be refitted to pose as trader vessels to come in on some of the trade routes. With the fleet otherwise occupied, they would stand a good chance at getting deep within enemy territory before being discovered as fully armed combat vessels. I would suggest to the Alliance that this tactic be used along the Corellian Run as there are not many systems until very deep within the Core Worlds.
The Indran SCC Temporal Command Vessel will be at the Disposal of the Fleet as the Field Command HQ for this attack. She is the single most advanced Indran Vessel built to date. With Tesseract Technology, she can unleash unholy hell on her enemies. If the need arises, she can target friendly energy signatures, and tesseract them out of the area to a set of coordinates that would be predetermined. She has layers of triplicate shielding both conventional (multiphasic) and temporal. The SCC also possesses the full array of weapons technology, everything from PSPs, to Temporal Disruptors, to High Yield hyperspace missiles, and fighters. Her Main weapon is the same device that allows her to jump from one region of space/time to another, The Tesseract Generator Core. She also possesses HYPDLs, and most importantly, the facilities to command a total Temporal War. The CnC center will be able to be used for the command center for the entire war effort. If in the event of a retreat is called, she can pull herself out of harms way along with the rest of the fleet. In order to protect the command center, we will need to have a command vessel from each of the nations participating in this conflict at her side to best coordinate all strategic attacks. Fleet vessels numbering less than twenty will be needed to help guard the SCC in the event the GE discover her location and mount a massive attack against her position. With that in mind, All vessels surrounding and protecting the SCC will have an automatic lock on by the SCC tesseract targeting sensors to pull out of the region in a moments notice. When the SCC jumps in, they can bring with them, a Hyperspace jump gate, similar to the one in the Gamma Eridani System that allows for instantaneous transit from one galaxy to another.
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If at all possible, I would like to transfer to the new Fourth Fleet, assuming we will adopt this new plan.
Despite the superior tactical training and technology of the Armada, the Penguenian Battlegroup being sent (3rd Imperial Fleet, First Strike Fleet) would be unable to sustain the numerous system sieges and still continue on to Coruscant.
The Armada is built for striking at the heart, and we feel that the Fourth Fleet would better suit us. However, if this is not possible, we will follow our current objectives to the best of our sustainability.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject:
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We will need a number of nations in Strike Group Charlie due to the fact that most of the Indran Fleet was destroyed and/or damaged beyond short term repair in the conflict with the Suchae. What we do have, is not sufficient to take out multiple systems without help.
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blaesa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject:
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Still waiting on confirmation for Ald Rhun in the battle plans.
Oh, and another question: My ships let off quite the gravity well. Might that pull unlucky ships out of Hyperspace? I could position large amounts of ships to block off major trade lanes. Of course, accusations of wankage might fly...
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Kanuckistan
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject:
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Battleplates and Superfortreses are equiped with hyperspace interdictors and gravitic shadow-casters.
I would also note that I have negligible army resources as far as an endevor of this magnitude is concerned.
I'd also be willing to donate 3 superfortresses and a Battleplate to the action; one 'fort with the Indran command ship and the other two in reserve - possibly interdicting hyperspace lanes in the mean time, or gaurding forward bases - while the 'plate serves as a hub for the Third Allied Fleet's forward actions.
The Adventurers' Guild can be given the job of assisting in privateering activities(because I perfer small scale actions to fleet-sized furballs).
Skeelzania wrote:
I'm extremely loathe to launch any sort of offensive action without my Kanuckistani defense platform
I don't think we'll be waiting the 3+ months for it to be completed.
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Skeelzania
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:
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Kanuckistan wrote:
Battleplates and Superfortreses are equiped with hyperspace interdictors and gravitic shadow-casters.
I would also note that I have negligible army resources as far as an endevor of this magnitude is concerned.
I'd also be willing to donate 3 superfortresses and a Battleplate to the action; one 'fort with the Indran command ship and the other two in reserve - possibly interdicting hyperspace lanes in the mean time, or gaurding forward bases - while the 'plate serves as a hub for the Third Allied Fleet's forward actions.
The Adventurers' Guild can be given the job of assisting in privateering activities(because I perfer small scale actions to fleet-sized furballs).
Planting a fort or plate on their trade lanes would certainly screw up their response times, though in all likely hood it would be a suicide mission.
I've noticed some people are unwilling to be involved in planetary invasions, fine. CF and me, and I'm sure others, are more than willing to simply frag every xeno population center from here to Courscant. I personally will be conducting a "campaign without pity," blasting civilian targets left and right with no regards to morals. In order to keep the blitz into the inner cores going I suggest the rest of you follow similar guidelines.
Also, I might be able to convince a few Orks to operate as privateers. Their tachyon drives give them nearly infinite range, being in effect Improbability Drives. They use kinetic weapons almost exclusively, though SW ships seem prone to that sort of damage once the shields are down.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:
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Skeelzania wrote:
Planting a fort or plate on their trade lanes would certainly screw up their response times, though in all likely hood it would be a suicide mission.
'forts have a 30 lightminute FTLi radius; if they catch a fish too big for 'em, they can still slow 'em down, and maybe trade some long-range fire with them befor bugging out; they've got three kinds of FTL they the GE would have to block befor getting out became an issue.
However, I was mainly thinking of droping it on a trade lane and eating merchant shipping wholesale, with a few cargo ships tagging along to pick up the loot.
Skeelzania wrote:
I've noticed some people are unwilling to be involved in planetary invasions, fine. CF and me, and I'm sure others, are more than willing to simply frag every xeno population center from here to Courscant. I personally will be conducting a "campaign without pity," blasting civilian targets left and right with no regards to morals. In order to keep the blitz into the inner cores going I suggest the rest of you follow similar guidelines.
Hey, I just don't have the forces for a war; although I expect a few might surrender to me without a fight, like Coreworlds' Kyoto colony, after seeing what you guys are doing.
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Tappee
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject:
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
Or, in text form:
Strike Group Alpha, Myself, Metallinauts, and Lord Ragen will be hitting Bakura, Fondor, and Reesee on the way to Coruscant.
Strike Group Beta, Skeelzania, Penguenia, and Blasea will be hitting Agamar, Ord Mantell, and Ithor on the way to Coruscant.
Strike Group Delta, Kanuckistan, Crystal Palais, TST, and BC will be hitting Ison, Hoth, Bespin, Vargnat, Yag'Dhul, and Duro on their way to Coruscant.
The idea behind SG-Delta's route is to draw off as much of the GE's strength as possible to combat the huge TST/Kanuckistan/CP threat while the other two SGs move in and destroy targets of oppertunity.
I'm not any where on the list so what you do doesn't matter to me anyways. Truth is I counldn't contribe even if I wanted to.
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Arenumberg
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject:
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Ithor.. are you insane?
"Ithor is governed by a Theocratic Government who govern through the wisdom of their ranks and the gentle offerings of the Bafforr trees. Ithor is the fourth planet in the Ottega star system. It is mainly constituted of tropical forests, with lush vegetation. it contains many animal life. This planet is the home of the Ithorians, also called "hammerheads". The planet itself is divided in many islands and continents, surrounded by great oceans, yet the Ithorians, who live in migrating cities that hover above the lush forests. The climate of this planet is humid and tropical, therefore causing many humanoids some pains when travelling on Ithor."
The Hammerheads also fight to the death like japanese kamikaze's, Its not worth the trouble, they;d just accept whoever came along and then you can just move along, Thats what they did with the empire and thats what they did with the Rebels, waste of time if you ask me. And Glassing it would be a waste of time, Unless we want any planets we occupy to rise up.
Spose if any of my fleet survives Ill be acting independently.
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Jordaxia
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I suppose I should elaborate on stage two, to the full extent that I've arranged things.
Basically, our "sicily" is an entirely seperate galaxy which we have an interest in, either because it has something that we both want (hunting grounds, fresh xenos, three breasted whores from eroticon 6) or something that Sith wants, that we really don't want him to get, or the other way around. Whatever, the cause is nonconsequential in the grand-scheme. Now, we all have our preliminary colony worlds, nothing expansive, big enough to keep us well-supplied, but not a disaster should it all go wrong and it gets glassed. I'll assume we'll be going for a world each. Over the course of the first five minutes of the RP, we'll find sith, or he'll find us, we'll argue for another few minutes, and of course, some hostile incident will take place. Thus begins the second war. The huge upside to this is that we won't be losing anything more extreme than ships, which leaves it wide open. Secondly, with distance involved, we'll have to play it sharp with our fleets. I don't think anyone has insta-comms that are pan-galactic, so messages will take a while to get home. The final upside is that he'll be unable to deploy the wankstar, given that if he moves it from his galaxy, coruscant will be WIDE open to a battleplate strike, and that'd just ruin his day.
Basically, it gives us a blank slate for us to glass and otherwise mutilate as we see fit with no consequences that'll lead to an unreasonable flamewar and ignore fest. Opinions?
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Balrogga
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Well, if I have the time in Real Life I will help.
I use Dimensional Technology and rely upon conventional weapons and gravity weapons.
My drives are a combination of Dimensional Drives and Posi-grav Drives because the D-Drives operate more efficiently within strong gravitational fields. Also, my shields are generated from my D-Drive so the stronger the gravity, the stronger the shield. Good thing I use singularities...
EDIT: I also have a number of PSI that might help combat his use of the Force
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Lord Ragen
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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The Fleet I'm sending in is
5000 achillies as an escort
and I'll send in my whole fleet of troops
2470 argo troop transport/planetary lander
1,000,000 Gladius air combat units
10,000,000 Combat Stealers
1,000,000 Lictors
1,000,000 Estoc Battle Armors
Recap on human rescources
2,000,000 Psykers with implimented AI's for faster reaction time (they won't be as fast as jedi's but thier psyker powers nullify force powers)
Armor
Perurabo Artillery Mecha 100,000
Curze Sniper Mecha 100,000
Rogal Dorn Siege Mecha 1,000,000
Sanguinius Shock Mecha 100,000
Recap on how forces are situated
3 landing fleets
1st landing fleet (I'm not wasting psykers)
Combat 'Stealer 10,000,000
Rogal Dorn Siege Mecha 1,000,000
Perurabo Artillery Mecha 100,000
These guys will easily take down most cities in a matter of hours..
2nd landing fleet (still not using my psykers)
TENEBRA-STRAIN LICTOR 1,000,000
Sanguinius Shock Mecha 100,000
A perfect balance of ground and air very fast and very silent the ground units sneak in then the air come after the preliminary strike.
3rd landing fleet (droped where the force users are found)
Gladius Aerial Combat TDA 1,000,000
Estoc Battle Armor 1,000,000
Curze Sniper Mecha 100,000
Very good at landing and taking out force users the sniper mechs keep away any armor and easily breaks through shields.
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Arenumberg
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:53 am Post subject:
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Central Facehuggeria wrote:
My forces will be razing every single thing that we can't hold, which means that eventually we'll be razing everything we take. In fact, My schorched Earth tactics will have an eye towards rendering the planets uninhabitable for as long as possible. Probably by pumping the planets chock full of toxic gas and knocking them off their axis.
That's after I've herded the populations of most of those planets into death/forced-labor camps, mind you. The conquered populations of these planets will be worked to death manufacutring cheap childrens toys! Muhahahah!
Excuse me, I think we are overlooking the whole point of this.
The GE isnt all US fanatics, 50% of the planets are just forcefully kept in the Empire, its a point ive tried to make hundreds of times.
Any pointless glassing or scorched earth policies will result in a lengthy war crimes case against said nation. And i will win.
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Metallinauts
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:59 am Post subject:
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Arenumberg wrote:
Central Facehuggeria wrote:
My forces will be razing every single thing that we can't hold, which means that eventually we'll be razing everything we take. In fact, My schorched Earth tactics will have an eye towards rendering the planets uninhabitable for as long as possible. Probably by pumping the planets chock full of toxic gas and knocking them off their axis.
That's after I've herded the populations of most of those planets into death/forced-labor camps, mind you. The conquered populations of these planets will be worked to death manufacutring cheap childrens toys! Muhahahah!
Excuse me, I think we are overlooking the whole point of this.
The GE isnt all US fanatics, 50% of the planets are just forcefully kept in the Empire, its a point ive tried to make hundreds of times.
Any pointless glassing or scorched earth policies will result in a lengthy war crimes case against said nation. And i will win.
I will offer free legal services to those who concur with the Scorched earth Practices that will be executed by CF, Skeelzania and myself. Believe me when I say, "I take law in Hgh School, so I know more than you. And I will win."
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I like scorched earth!
And still, no one has answered my questions on Ald Rhun or the fact that my ships all seem to be interdictors...
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Metallinauts
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blaesa wrote:
I like scorched earth!
And still, no one has answered my questions on Ald Rhun or the fact that my ships all seem to be interdictors...
I have no authority to speak on the matter.
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Crystal Palais
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:38 am Post subject:
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Jordaxia wrote:
I don't think anyone has insta-comms that are pan-galactic...
I do, but only when an Avatar is present. Which reminds me, I need to get some sort of spiffy acronym for that name later considering they're artificial beings linked directly to Deity.
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I have insta-comms. All my troops have an implanted quantum communication chip, so they can communicate with QUETZAL.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:54 am Post subject:
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blaesa wrote:
I have insta-comms. All my troops have an implanted quantum communication chip, so they can communicate with QUETZAL.
I buy his tech and love it
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Skeelzania
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Arenumberg wrote:
Any pointless glassing or scorched earth policies will result in a lengthy war crimes case against said nation. And i will win.
Two problems. One is that Xenocide and xenomurder are not recognized as crimes in Skeelzania, and as the ESUS cannot impose laws on member states I'm immune from punishment. The second is that any attempt by anyone to bring my leaders to trial will result in a full military response aiming for the complete destruction of your industrial and civilian base.
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Skeelzania wrote:
Arenumberg wrote:
Any pointless glassing or scorched earth policies will result in a lengthy war crimes case against said nation. And i will win.
Two problems. One is that Xenocide and xenomurder are not recognized as crimes in Skeelzania, and as the ESUS cannot impose laws on member states I'm immune from punishment. The second is that any attempt by anyone to bring my leaders to trial will result in a full military response aiming for the complete destruction of your industrial and civilian base.
Seconded and again, you will loose.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:33 am Post subject:
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Uh, guys? We're attacking Sithboy here, not each other.
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Skeelzania wrote:
Arenumberg wrote:
Any pointless glassing or scorched earth policies will result in a lengthy war crimes case against said nation. And i will win.
Two problems. One is that Xenocide and xenomurder are not recognized as crimes in Skeelzania, and as the ESUS cannot impose laws on member states I'm immune from punishment. The second is that any attempt by anyone to bring my leaders to trial will result in a full military response aiming for the complete destruction of your industrial and civilian base.
I third the motion I lead a "Soviet Union" state.... Bringing Russians to trial Bah I'll pay for the bullet... nuf said.
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You will not commit un-necessary (which is nearly all of what you have planned) scorched earth policies, mass killings, or any other kind of thing of the same strain.
Failure to do so will result in Unified Sith going:
"I IGNOREZ J00!"
And excuse me, If this is going to be a thinly vieled imperialistic invasion, I doubt you want everyone thinking were absolute assholes who destroy planets and masses of people for fun.
Last comment doesnt apply to Skeelzania, we already know what he is .
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Yes, somebody please address my questions regarding KK-Interdiction and the inclusion of Ald Rhun.
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Ok back on topic attack plan 1.b looks good to me as long as CF can defend my ships long enough for my troops to get on the ground and "deal" with the "force user problem"
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'Nauts, what you've posted on the GE boards isn't satisfactory. The GE will never reach the 'Gates of Sol'. Ever. Never in a million years ever. Sol doesn't belong to any ESUS member nation, as much as many of us would like to think it does ICly. It would turn into either a gangbang of outside powers against US, or he'd ignore all intervention, saying "omgz tis B clozd". I could point out many more erroneous statements in your post there, but I'll leave it at that.
Arenumberg wrote:
And excuse me, If this is going to be a thinly veiled imperialistic invasion, I doubt you want everyone thinking were absolute assholes who destroy planets and masses of people for fun.
I actually wouldn't care if my allies did this. Then my commanders can say "We hate the inhumans above all, but at least we aren't... barbarians" or something to that snobby effect.
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Metallinauts claims US won't participate if he doesn't get to go to Sol.
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Then he needs to be told, that if he reaches Sol, that it will be entirely open to anyone wanting to defend that system. Although I doubt his ability to get to the NS space nerve center in the first place.
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I'm happy going anywhere, though it should be noted I primarily use kinetic weaponary. Still, I checked on stardestroyer.net, and 'twould seem that kinetic weapons work...
Still, I'm not sure "massive threat" can be applied to me...
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:33 am Post subject:
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The Silver Turtle wrote:
I'm happy going anywhere, though it should be noted I primarily use kinetic weaponary. Still, I checked on stardestroyer.net, and 'twould seem that kinetic weapons work...
Still, I'm not sure "massive threat" can be applied to me...
If a SSD can be taken down by a fighter crashing through a bay window, I think any sort of railgun you use would do just fine.
EDIT: And as I recall, a Star Destroyer was destroyed by an asteroid in ESB.
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By that, do you mean that kinetic weapons are better in some way against SW tech?
And again, what's the opinion on using KK drives as interdictors, due to the gravity well they project?
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blaesa wrote:
By that, do you mean that kinetic weapons are better in some way against SW tech?
And again, what's the opinion on using KK drives as interdictors, due to the gravity well they project?
I think I read that interdictors in SW are essentially artifical gravity wells, so they should work. If their sufficiently mobile you can drop them on the trade lanes and either slow down their response fleets or divert them.
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My plan was to park a fleet spread out over the trade lane. Perhaps cut off the Corellian Run? It'll at least slow them down, especially if I have reinforcements.
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Hehe...*pats his 360 kinetic missiles a second from a single ship*
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Aren't all missiles kinetic, at least until they explode? So, do SW shields only absorb energy or something? Should I invest in railguns?
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:47 am Post subject:
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blaesa wrote:
Aren't all missiles kinetic, at least until they explode? So, do SW shields only absorb energy or something? Should I invest in railguns?
Technically missiles can be classified as chemical or energy, since it isn't the actual missile striking a craft that causes damage. Rather its the warhead detonating that gives a missile umph.
SW shields, from my expirience, seem almost exclusively geared towards countering plasma and energy attacks, with little or no protection against kinetic damage. The reason is that no SW vessel uses railguns, and the only missiles are relatively uncommon torpedoes that seem to pass through shields just fine (Death Star I).
Of course GE might be well aware of this, and may have adjusted his shields accordingly so that they are no longer strictly canon.
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blaesa wrote:
Aren't all missiles kinetic, at least until they explode? So, do SW shields only absorb energy or something? Should I invest in railguns?
Well stardestroyer.net suggested that the shields could absorb the same amount of kinetic energy as they could energy from a turbolaser blast...
But I have both anti-ship missiles and kinetic missiles. See the "What are you" thread for a suggestion about how much damage the kinetics can do.
Note that these are missiles, and not just railgun shells. (I have them too, but they're less powerful.)
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Well, my brother would be useful then. The weapon systems he's designing are pretty much purely kinetic: railguns, missiles, possibly anti-matter cannons. The only question is if he'll be ready by Saturday...
My weapons, sadly, are nearly exclusively plasma, although they all have an ion cannon that acts as a guidance system of sorts for the plasma (plasma is charged, the ion cannon gives the opposite charge to the target).
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Oh, and how the hell do SW shields work anyway?
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:52 am Post subject:
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blaesa wrote:
Oh, and how the hell do SW shields work anyway?
Magic, cast by wizards who reside in giant metal balls conviently placed outside of the ship.
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Oh, will anti-matter slugs be good too?
Damn, seems I'll be able to kick ass...
Oh, and an actual point:
At one point, we should glass Naboo. I think the Gungans especially of all xenos deserve eradication.
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blaesa wrote:
Well, my brother would be useful then. The weapon systems he's designing are pretty much purely kinetic: railguns, missiles, possibly anti-matter cannons. The only question is if he'll be ready by Saturday...
My weapons, sadly, are nearly exclusively plasma, although they all have an ion cannon that acts as a guidance system of sorts for the plasma (plasma is charged, the ion cannon gives the opposite charge to the target).
Ald Rhun= Far away lots of big guns
Blaesa= Up close in your face
Lord Ragen= Shadow tactics
Thats why we are the PRA We are balanced
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:
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The Silver Turtle wrote:
Oh, will anti-matter slugs be good too?
Damn, seems I'll be able to kick ass...
Oh, and an actual point:
At one point, we should glass Naboo. I think the Gungans especially of all xenos deserve eradication.
Yes, their too happy-go-lucky anyway.
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Right, if we're gonna show the gungans who's boss, I insist we vape that bloody forest moon off of Endor... I hate Ewoks...
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Jordaxia wrote:
Right, if we're gonna show the gungans who's boss, I insist we vape that bloody forest moon off of Endor... I hate Ewoks...
Ewoks!?!?! no one told me we were gona roast some ewoks!!!!! I would have brought gram crackers and marshmellows!!
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Don't need graham crackers, we have teddy grahams!
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Shouldn't we send a small force in a head on attack on Coruscant first? Distraction, of course. I would be willing to head it if we were to make one. If not, I need a group to join.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:09 am Post subject:
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Five Civilized Nations wrote:
You guys need my help?
We need all help... more allies the better.
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Hrm. US basically just said that unless it takes us 100 years to get to his galaxy, it's a godmod.
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Then let's use fluid timelines to say 1 day = 100 years.
EDIT: Extremely subtle irony.
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That's because he wants us to use a wormhole so that he can take it from there....
if he wants to use a wormhole, that's cool with me... you can just send your ship displacement signal through the wormhole and deposit all the ships in his galaxy... same plan, different execution.
Someone was going to displace our fleets there... weren't they? Mine certainly couldn't perform that sort of journey, Jordaxian hyperspace isn't all that quick.
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Peng: My plan on their boards is faulty for a few reasons.
a.) If they are too dumb to see it all dos not add up... that is their fault
b.) US strictly said he wants to go after Sol. I figure hey let the ToY attack him.
c.) The less he knows, the better.
To Who Ever Brought up the 100 Year Journey:
My FTL is 400,000xC, and Kanuck's is instatn and he can single handedly kick all the GE's ass,
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
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Metallinauts wrote:
To Who Ever Brought up the 100 Year Journey:
My FTL is 400,000xC, and Kanuck's is instatn and he can single handedly kick all the GE's ass,
I doubt everyone's is instamove; mine takes three weeks to travel 40,000 approximately. Of course, I always have my old Tachyon Drives which suspend all laws of physics and allow a ship to travel anywhere, but they are a tad unreliable.
How do we know this WH isn't insanely mined and protected, and this is just a big trap?
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Yesyes, so subtle.
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We are prepared to install Temporal Hyperspace Engines and Temporal Cores in vesselswho require the almost instantaneous travel to the GE Galaxy. If vessels are in the range of the SCC, she can tesseract them into the region when she jumps in.
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Because he ICly is unaware of it.
if it's mined, it's metagaming.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:04 am Post subject:
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Indra Prime wrote:
We are prepared to install Temporal Hyperspace Engines and Temporal Cores in vesselswho require the almost instantaneous travel to the GE Galaxy. If vessels are in the range of the SCC, she can tesseract them into the region when she jumps in.
I'd rather risk the Tachyons than use your blasphemous tech.
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Err, can you blow that up a little? Text is unreadable on my comp.
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I know the text is a bit small so I am working on getting an image of just the text. It will be up in a few minutes.
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Indra Prime wrote:
I know the text is a bit small so I am working on getting an image of just the text. It will be up in a few minutes.
Or just type it out...
Doesn't matter though, my path is unchanged from what I can see. I'd still like to cut the Hydian Way at some point though.
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Arenumberg wrote:
You know, you all really make me want to upload my ESUS information computer banks to US.
You want to be banned don't you?
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Penguenia
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Metallinauts: Intentionally misleading someone OOC is metagaming, so please cut that crap out. Weather or not they are 'too dumb' or how much we dislike them; they still should be treated with, in the least, a false respect.
Indra: A sound plan. Who is in what strike group, though?
Also, as much the planning is apparently being done behind the scenes among oh-so-worthy peers, how bout letting us common folk in on everything?
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Metallinauts wrote:
Peng: My plan on their boards is faulty for a few reasons.
a.) If they are too dumb to see it all dos not add up... that is their fault
b.) US strictly said he wants to go after Sol. I figure hey let the ToY attack him.
c.) The less he knows, the better.
To Who Ever Brought up the 100 Year Journey:
My FTL is 400,000xC, and Kanuck's is instatn and he can single handedly kick all the GE's ass,
My new FTL is also instant...
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Skeelzania
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Do you think GE would object to a few of my Orks 'settling' on his northern rim? I plan to bring a few long for commerce raiding anyway.
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Jordaxia
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:33 am Post subject:
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Skeelzania wrote:
Do you think GE would object to a few of my Orks 'settling' on his northern rim? I plan to bring a few long for commerce raiding anyway.
Yeah. Bring them. I'll be hiring a lot of mercs to raid everything that I can as well, should bolster my numbers quite nicely. I intend to deploy a Judicial army, notably the queen of the caste, Lord Mutei. He should be honoured, I've never fielded a caste force before.
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Skeelzania
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
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Jordaxia wrote:
Skeelzania wrote:
Do you think GE would object to a few of my Orks 'settling' on his northern rim? I plan to bring a few long for commerce raiding anyway.
Yeah. Bring them. I'll be hiring a lot of mercs to raid everything that I can as well, should bolster my numbers quite nicely. I intend to deploy a Judicial army, notably the queen of the caste, Lord Mutei. He should be honoured, I've never fielded a caste force before.
Any guy with the title "queen of the caste" ain't going to be getting much respect methinks.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:37 am Post subject:
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As far as I'm aware, the Strike groups are as they were set up previously, with the exception of Penguenia who has joined Strike Force Charlie. There are a few unaccounted for nations which need to be placed in a SG, like Tappee.
Here is what we have.
Strike Group Alpha - Central Facehuggeria, Metallinauts, Lord Ragen, Torontonias
Strike Group Beta - Skeelzania, and Blaesa, Jordaxian Free Lancers
Strike Group Charlie - Indra Prime, Penguenia
Strike Group Delta - Kanuckistan, Crystal Palais, TST, BC, Jordaxia and The Mindset
Strike Group Field Command HQ -
SCC Temporal Command Vessel
Kanuckistani Superfortress
Metallinautian Chronos Temporal Battle Cruiser
Penguenian Leviathan Class Flagship
Could use more support in Beta and Charlie Companies.
Also need to know who will be supporting the Field Cmd HQ. (Vessel types and nation of origin.)
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Jordaxia
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silly billy skeelz, Mutei is female.... Lord isn't a gender specific title, it just is mainly used for guys.
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Skeelzania
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In my opinion Beta is going to be more of a distraction than full-on assault. I'm not going to be gentle with any worlds that fall to me, and I'll lose control of the Orks as soon as they find a trade lane. I think Blaesa and I should just concentrate on the smash-and-grab, staying mobile and trying to draw away as many Imperial ships as possible.
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Skeelzania
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:40 am Post subject:
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Jordaxia wrote:
Yeah. Bring them. I'll be hiring a lot of mercs to raid everything that I can as well, should bolster my numbers quite nicely. I intend to deploy a Judicial army, notably the queen of the caste, Lord Mutei. He should be honoured, I've never fielded a caste force before.
Check your spelling.
EDIT: And Lord is very gender specific in Skeelzania. Women are Ladies, Duchesses, and various other titles.
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Jordaxia
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:41 am Post subject:
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oh.... silly me. No, that spelling is correct. I was referring to Sith, not Mutei. Perhaps I should edit it to make that clearer.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:42 am Post subject:
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Skeelzania wrote:
In my opinion Beta is going to be more of a distraction than full-on assault. I'm not going to be gentle with any worlds that fall to me, and I'll lose control of the Orks as soon as they find a trade lane. I think Blaesa and I should just concentrate on the smash-and-grab, staying mobile and trying to draw away as many Imperial ships as possible.
Sounds like a good plan. With Strike Group Beta and Strike Group Charlie (secondary wing) acting as diversionary attacks, it should free up a number of avenues for attack for the main invasion force.
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Indra, I'm in Delta, remember, I'm providing light ship support cover for Kanucks heavy hitters. perhaps you should add Jordaxian freelancers to beta though... that is where they'll be assigned, given that seems to be the smash and burn raider group.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:44 am Post subject:
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Jordaxia wrote:
Indra, I'm in Delta, remember, I'm providing light ship support cover for Kanucks heavy hitters. perhaps you should add Jordaxian freelancers to beta though... that is where they'll be assigned, given that seems to be the smash and burn raider group.
noted. changed.
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Sskiss are you in on this? IF so I want you for Alpha. Same for Torontonias. We all know each other's strengths and weaknesses. Couple your troops with CF and Ragens and we have world eaters. My massive troops will meat shield for ya'll and CF and I can batter back any Ships to aid the Sith.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:46 am Post subject:
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I'll send my Leviathan Class Flagship to accompany the mobile command.
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Problem, my FTL drives are rather slow or at least I think they are. My FTL rates are based light years/per day rate. For example, a ship might travel at a few hundred light years per day. I have no instantaneous FTL travel at any rate.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:49 am Post subject:
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Metallinauts wrote:
Sskiss are you in on this? IF so I want you for Alpha. Same for Torontonias. We all know each other's strengths and weaknesses. Couple your troops with CF and Ragens and we have world eaters. My massive troops will meat shield for ya'll and CF and I can batter back any Ships to aid the Sith.
duh, silly me, how could I be so stupid as to not realise how important this little facet is? We really need to know precisely the capabilities of our allies. Granted, this shouldn't be a problem, but if anyone doesn't know the capabilities/strengths/weaknesses of their allies, they should endeavour to find out, so that no-one is relying on someone to do something they can't do.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:
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As I said, any vessel needed instantaneous travel can have Temporal Hyperspace Engines tacked on to their vessels. Also would need Temporal Cores as well. Free of Charge during war time. If a nation decided to keep the tech after the war, it would be sold to them a decent price.
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Jordaxia
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:51 am Post subject:
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Sskiss wrote:
Problem, my FTL drives are rather slow or at least I think they are. My FTL rates are based light years/per day rate. For example, a ship might travel at a few hundred light years per day. I have no instantaneous FTL travel at any rate.
EDIT: nonconsequential. Indra answered.
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Sskiss
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:
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Metallinauts wrote:
Sskiss are you in on this? IF so I want you for Alpha. Same for Torontonias. We all know each other's strengths and weaknesses. Couple your troops with CF and Ragens and we have world eaters. My massive troops will meat shield for ya'll and CF and I can batter back any Ships to aid the Sith.
I'd like to be in on it, but my biggest weakness is my rather slow FTL rates. I have no other weaknesses really. I can also supply plenty of ground troops. What's Sith got to do with all this? Is he on our side?
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I believe that I was placed in Alpha Division, and I probably should stay there due to Metallinaut's statement.
Also, my FTL should suffice so long as I know the coordinates of where I'm jumping to. So I'd have to be delayed by a few moments as allies jumped in and relayed the points, unless we have them beforehand.
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My stuff is rather slow, I believe I'll take you up on those drives for FTL...
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Jordaxia
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:55 am Post subject:
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Sskiss wrote:
I'd like to be in on it, but my biggest weakness is my rather slow FTL rates. I have no other weaknesses really. I can also supply plenty of ground troops. What's Sith got to do with all this? Is he on our side?
He's the enemy, Sskiss . Metallinauts will be battering any ships aiding sith.
EDIT: I'll probably just take the wormhole route and then scramble to meet up with delta and beta. I'll take the time to secure it as well, leave a missile minefield or 12 to smite any Sith ships that try and take the fight back. Thanks for the offer Indra, but I prefer only to use other peoples tech when absolutely necessary.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:59 am Post subject:
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blaesa wrote:
My stuff is rather slow, I believe I'll take you up on those drives for FTL...
In order to retrofit your vessels, you will need to have them report to the ESUS shipyards in the Monoceros Cluster. We have a few automated shipyards left there, and you can get your entire fleet retrofitted within a weeks time.
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well despite your determination to not use our technology, The SCC will keep a lock on every single vessel of the ESUS and be ready to pull them out of the system at a moments notice.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:
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Indra Prime wrote:
well despite your determination to not use our technology, The SCC will keep a lock on every single vessel of the ESUS and be ready to pull them out of the system at a moments notice.
What about mercenaries? I really don't care if I leave the Orks behind.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:12 am Post subject:
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Every nation's vessels who fights for the ESUS, will continue to be locked on throughout the confrontation. If you wish to leave people here, thats your decision.
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Jordaxia
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It's nothing against your tech, I just think it'd take a while to retrofit what could be about 2200 vessels with highly advanced technology such as that, and the wormhole needs to be secured anyway, regardless of whether we need such a method of transport.
Wait... what could be 2204... forgot Mutei's ship and the three preg-tests I'm donating as mobile supply bases.
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Indra Prime
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:43 am Post subject:
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Well our facilities have the ability to modify many ships simultaneously. Theoretically, we could modify the entire ESUS battle fleet before the wartime, with activation of a Time Dialation Device around the shipyards.
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Godmoding or not, as of 25 February my quantum induction hyperdrives are capable of a theoretical maximum speed of 100,330,436,034,560 times the speed of light, covering 3,181,457 light years per second.
If Sith doesn't like it, he can pucker up and kiss my titanium-chitin-covered posterior.
Yes, this will soon be in the tech showcase too, along with the rest of my tech; it will just be a little while yet. After the shipboard tech, I'll post details regarding the anatomy of the Ti and their genetically modified friends the Antarans and the personnel technologies designed to keep them safe within combat and without.
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My ships (if I become involved) can travel 3,000,000ly (about the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy, no idea how that compares to the GE galaxy) in about 24,000 individual voidhole jumps, each lasting ~five minutes it'd take me 83 days.
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Neo-Tiburon
24-02-2005, 01:56
Just out of curiosity: are you the same person that posted another supposed ESUS plot to overthrow the ToY?
The Emperor Fenix
24-02-2005, 01:58
All posts her are OOC no information can be used IC... yadda yadda yadda, you know the drill
Just in case people dont spot my last one... not that it really makes any difference :D
Thus is life.
"GIVE ME BACK MY FLOPPY FACE"
Draconis Nightcrawlis
24-02-2005, 02:00
Not this again, someone needs to be DoS'd.
Yggdrasil Drottinn
24-02-2005, 02:03
*facepalms*
To whomeever is doing this: Seriously, stop being an ass. This is rather petty and immature.
To ESUS: I'd recommend more stringent membership qualifications.
Penguenia
24-02-2005, 02:05
This was no secret between the GE and ESUS as the whole campaign is planned.
The Emperor Fenix
24-02-2005, 02:05
*facepalms*
To whomeever is doing this: Seriously, stop being an ass. This is rather petty and immature.
To ESUS: I'd recommend more stringent membership qualifications.
They are quite stringent already... still you cant be right all the time.
Skeelzania
24-02-2005, 02:06
@Yggdrasil Its most likely a disgruntled senior member pissed because his miner got blown up in EvE by another member. I don't personally care, since it gives me an excuse to steal his tech. Thanks for the proton cannons BM!
New York and Jersey
24-02-2005, 02:47
OOC:
Okay..we serious RPers are getting tired of you newbies putting this kind of thread up. Us old timers are having a grand old laugh at the expense of ESUS and whoever keeps putting up these damn plans. But its getting tiresome, and sooner or later a mod is gonna roll around lock the thread and start deleting people. Are we all clear on this one simple fact? I may not be a mod but I've been around long enough to realize when something may warrant a warning.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
24-02-2005, 03:00
OOC:
Okay..we serious RPers are getting tired of you newbies putting this kind of thread up. Us old timers are having a grand old laugh at the expense of ESUS and whoever keeps putting up these damn plans. But its getting tiresome, and sooner or later a mod is gonna roll around lock the thread and start deleting people. Are we all clear on this one simple fact? I may not be a mod but I've been around long enough to realize when something may warrant a warning.
Unless, of course, said old timers are ESUS members. :P
New York and Jersey
24-02-2005, 03:03
Unless, of course, said old timers are ESUS members. :P
OOC:
-restarted nation Original start date is Dec 25th 2002-
Oy, I'm still older than you Jangle, lets not get into it. You folks wanna go put up OOC plans ICly? Go do it in II. Thats what its there for.
Yeah... this is getting out of hand guys... personally I would like to see the moderators deal with this as though it's spam because it's little more then useless copy and paste crap from another forum which is external of Nationstates and doesn't even count towards proper IC material.
DemonLordEnigma
24-02-2005, 03:20
OOC:
-restarted nation Original start date is Dec 25th 2002-
Oy, I'm still older than you Jangle, lets not get into it. You folks wanna go put up OOC plans ICly? Go do it in II. Thats what its there for.
The ESUS are not the ones doing it and are just as annoyed as you are. This would not have been posted at all if any of us or them had their way. And by "us," I'm using the royal form.
Crystal Palais
24-02-2005, 05:22
Godmoding or not, as of 25 February my quantum induction hyperdrives are capable of a theoretical maximum speed of 100,330,436,034,560 times the speed of light, covering 3,181,457 light years per second.
If Sith doesn't like it, he can pucker up and kiss my titanium-chitin-covered posterior.
And I fully stand by this, too.
Someone delete all of this spam, would you? Seeing as some immature twat is posting this nonsense. This is no secret, this is just us coordinating tactics.
Syskeyia
24-02-2005, 05:56
At first (given the "5CN we love you" name), I thought this was a parody thread.
I guess it's not.
I'm wondering what's worse... the fact that someone is leaking out ESUS plots (hey, when I saw "ESUS plans to destory ToY," I thought, "Great, an alliance I've never heard of seeks to destroy one of the oldest and most respected alliances in NS. LOL!") or the fact that the one leaking the threads has to post all the signatures and all the member info and thus making the copied 'n' pasted "posts" very hard to read.
Siesatia
24-02-2005, 06:05
Lucky all the real planning was done via AIM.
Skeelzania
24-02-2005, 06:51
At first (given the "5CN we love you" name), I thought this was a parody thread.
I guess it's not.
I'm wondering what's worse... the fact that someone is leaking out ESUS plots (hey, when I saw "ESUS plans to destory ToY," I thought, "Great, an alliance I've never heard of seeks to destroy one of the oldest and most respected alliances in NS. LOL!") or the fact that the one leaking the threads has to post all the signatures and all the member info and thus making the copied 'n' pasted "posts" very hard to read.
In our defense, we've never heard of you either =P