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Checking realism

Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 11:41
Same drill as before: before (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381235)

Checking on possible stats for the items listed
tank and the CES. The aim is realistic post-modern 2050-2100 tech.

Sock it to me, please!

(This design is not yet available, but may be soon, depending on reaction...)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/LAPEC.gif

LAPEC - Light Armored PErsonnel Carrier (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/LAPEC/LAPEC.html)

This vehicle is intended to provide highly mobile protection for medium infantry units in most any conceivable combat environment. It is capable of engaging the enemy in any weather, day or night on the multi-dimensional, non-linear battlefield.



Weight: 19,722 kg
Length: 6.5m
Width: 3.5m
Height: 2.4m

Crew: 3 (Commander, driver, and gunner) + 6 passengers

Primary Armament:
1x35mm Autocannon
Range: 3,000 m
Rate of fire: 2500 rpm

Secondary Armament: 2x 7mm AR-3-HBs, 2 4 x 66mm Smoke Dischargers, 2 prismatic anti laser aerosol dispensers
Ammunition Carried: 3,000x35mm, 4000x7mm

Mobility:
Power: 6 proton exchange membrane fuel cells, generating 120 kWs each, for a total of 720 kWs, lithium polymer batteries generating 3000 kWh
Fuel Carried: 6 alkali-modified fullerene nanotube lattice hydrogen canisters, containing 2kg of hydrogen each (100 kg), 40 hours supply
Max Road Speed: 90 km/h
Max Off Road Speed: 60 km/h
Power/Weight Ratio: 36.5 kWt/tn
Transmission: Hydro Kinetic Automatic 3/3
Road Range: 2000km
Off Road Range: 1500km

Armor:
Hull:
Front: 100mm@60 deg (750mm HRA equivilant)
Side: 75mm@0 deg (187.5 mm HRA equivilant)
Rear: 50mm@0 deg (125mm RHA equivilant)
Top/Bottom: 80mm@0 deg (200mm RHA equivilant)
Contengency package:
Front: +50mm@60 deg (375mm HRA equivilant)
Side: +50mm@0 deg (125mm HRA equivilant)
Turret: 100mm@60 deg (750mm RHA equivilant)

Cost: 6 million USD


Notes and Features:

Design: The LAPEC is a modular structure selected to give the maximum flexibility for multi-purpose operation. The vehicle incorporates a high level of standardisation and uses commercially proven automotive components. The 8x8 vehicle provides a load capacity to 8t and has an internal capacity of more than 14m3.

Protection: Modular armour is sandwiched between the vehicle cell and the steel coat and all three elements are secured by fastening bolts. The modular design will allow future generations of armour technologies to be fitted in place of current designs by simple slab replacement. The hull is designed to beat blast mine attack by shaping blast away. Additionally a double-lined hull soaks up critical blast deformation.
The vehicle is designed with thermal acoustic and radar signature management capability and provides a low signature.
The outermost layer is a thin sprayed on layer of armor quality polyethylene. The fighting compartment and ammunition stowage are in separated compartments behind sliding armor doors. Armor bulkheads separate the crew compartment from the fuel tanks. The vehicle is equipped with an automatic fire extinguishing system. This system automatically activates within 2 milliseconds of either a flash or a fire within the various compartments of the vehicle. The top panels of the vehicle are designed to blow outwards in the event of penetration by a HEAT projectile.
Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare protection is provided by an overpressure clean-air conditioning air system, a radiological warning system, and a chemical agent detector. The crew are individually equipped with protective suits and masks.
Next is a sandwiched layer of foam titanium alloy, reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers, and a ceramic matrix, also reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers. The innermost layer is a spalling shield made up of several sheets of 2-D weave boron filament, bioweave, and polyethylene fiber. The combined elements have a total Specific Strength* (MPa-cm3/g) of 375, or 2.5 times that of RHA steel armor.
Lightweight contingency armor packages of polyethylene and foam titanium alloy reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers armor skirts can can be applied to the sides and front to provide additional protection. The full contengency package adds an extra 3000 kg to the vehicles weight.
Active Protection:
The primary active protection system is the Active Defense System (ADS), which incorporates various sensors, prsmatic anti-laser aerosol launchers and smoke projectors, non-explosive reactive armor systems, defensive lasers, defensive electronics systems, and kinetic defense systems.
The center of all the active defense systems is the Light All Aspect System (LAAS). It uses 8 sets of detector arrays (4 in azimuth, and 4 in elevation) to cover the entire hemisphere. The detectors are multi-spectral sensitive: low light visual, lasers, radars, IR homers, proxemity, and other sensors. The warning system triggers various alarms, as well as defensive systems. It is controlled by a 700 THz main processor and an array of low-end subprocessors, with 64PB of onboard dataspace, which classifies the inbound threat and assigns the right countermeasure to defeat it. The countermeasures systems are automatically activated. After a threat is detected, the appropriate countermeasure units are traversed at high slewing rate (over 600 degrees/sec.) aiming at the general directional of the threat. At this stage the target is handed over to the launcher mounted sensor, which performs the ballistic calculations for the final intercept.
The first system to be activated is the the Ranged Electronic/Kinetic Kill System (REKKS). This is designed to be active in the 100 to 30 meter range. It provides self-protection against a broad range of incomming systems using soft kill electronic countermeasures (jammers and decoys) and hard kill active protection systems (physical interruption) to protect a vehicle from direct fire and top attack threats. This system includes a High Energy Radio Frequency/Microwave System (HERFMS) and a Kinetic Kill System (KKS) . The system activated depends on the threat. The HERFMS kills inbound guidance systems. And the KKS launches a projectile in the direction of the incoming threat, to intercept and destroy it at a distance of 30 meters.
At closer ranges (30 to 1 meter), the second line is activated. This includes electro-optical IR jammers, as well as radar, UV, and IR decoy systems. The decoys provide false targets to multi-spectral IR/laser or millimeter-wave threats. The decoys provides survivable miss distance against missiles and SFM threats. Also included are 66mm smoke grenade dischargers, chaff rockets, flare rockets, anti-laser aerosol projectors. The ALA projectors release a thick metal oxide vapor which reflects incident high-frequency laser light, while absorbing particle beam energy. The gas cloud released by the ALA obscures LOS for any unaugmented unit. The ALA also has limited radar scattering effects. The smoke grenades are for visible and IR making. The chaff rockets provide radar masking, and the flares act as IR decoys.
The close range (1-0 meter) active defenses include airbag and electric armor. The airbag system deploys a "curtain" down the sides of the vehicle held in place with simple straps. On detection of incoming shells, rockets, or missiles, the airbag inflates, using a carbon dioxide gas cartridge. The warhead is enshrouded in the airbag and slowed enough so the nose-mounted fuse doesn't detonate the warhead. Instead, the incoming weapon collapses and ends up looking "like a stomped-on beer can". The cartridge has to be replaced after one use, but the reusable airbag can simply be rolled up and put back into place.
The electronic "charged" armor system is composed of an earthed outer armored plate, a spaced gap, and an inner charged plate a highly connected to a charged capacitor. Shaped charge warheads detonate, penetrate the outer armor plate and the insulation of the inner plate, it completes the circuit, which results in the discharge of the capacitor and the vaporisation and dissapation of most of the the metal jet. The charged plates can take multiple hits onto the same section of the hull without penetration. Power to charge the plates is provided from the powerplant. The electrical system can be switched on or off depending on the perceived threat level, using the tank's internal power supply. Despite the high charge generated by the system, the "electrical load on the battery is no more than that caused by starting the engine on a cold morning".

Mobility: Permanent eight-wheeled drive, all-round independent suspension and central tyre inflation system (CTIS) will give excellent road and cross-country mobility. A road range of 2,000km, combined with a very smooth and quiet ride provides an unaided operational deployability unmatched among in-service armoured utility vehicles. A deep water fording kit is also available.
Armament: The weapon station is reconfigurable to suit the specific environments and mission requirements. The module for mission specific equipment is replaceable within one hour.
The main weapon of the LAPEC is a 35mm smoothbore autocannon. It employs a thixotrope non-hypergolic binary hydrazine propellant, with a freezing point of -100 C and a boiling point of 102.3 C. It is injected by a computerized system in the precise proportions needed to generate the acceleration/final velocity/range deisred for the trajectory wanted. It has a muzzle velocity of 1500 m/sec. Maximum engagement range is approximately 3000 meters. Several types of ammunition are available.
A 7mm DMI MG-3 is located in a powered mount at the Commander's station and is equipped with a x3 magnification sight.
The turret is fitted with two four-barreled 66mm smoke grenade launchers, one on each side of the main gun. The standard smoke grenade contains a phosphors compound that masks thermal signature of the vehicle to the enemy. There are also two two-barreled prismatic anti laser aerosol dispensers
Layout: The layout of the LAPEC follows classic armored car design and accommodates a crew of three: Commander, Gunner, and Driver, plus 6 passengers. The Commander is seated on the right side of the turret. The Gunner is seated on the left side of the turret, and the Driver is seated at the center front of the hull.
The Commander's station is equipped with periscopes providing all round 360 degree view. The Commander's Integrated Multi-spectral Viewer (CIMV) provides the commander with independent, stabilized day and night vision with a 360 degree view, automatic sector scanning, It also allows automatic targeting and a complete back-up fire control system - the Commander is capable of firing the main gun independent of the Gunner.
The Gunner's Integrated Multi-spectral Viewer (GIMV), creates an image based on the multi-specteral sights. The integrated image is displayed in the eyepiece of the Gunner's sight together with the range measurement, from a laser range finder, which is integrated into the fire control systems, as well as fire control solution data from the fire control computer, including the lead angle measurement, gun variances, ammunition type, cant, and local weather coditions (including wind velocity, temperature, and barometric pressure).
The Driver's station is located at the center front of the hull. The driver is in a semi-reclined position when his hatch is closed, as it must be whenever the vehicle is in operation. The drivers station is equipped with an array of multi-functional OLED monitors reflecting the condition of the vehicle fluid levels, batteries and electrical equipment. The Driver has a multispecteral array of periscopes providing a 120 degrees field of view, enabling the tank to maneuver equally in daytime as in darkness or poor visibility conditions such as in the dust and smoke encountered on the battlefield.
Stabilization: The turret and gun system are equiped with various weapon stabilization systems, including electric direct (gearless) turret azimuth drive, barrel actuator active damping control, fully integrated gearless turret/gun direct drives, and digital servo control, increasing probability of hit under moving conditions.

Electronic systems:
Independent thermal imaging, forward looking infrared (FLIR), electronic and optical day sights, integrated electronic controls and multi-funtion OLED displays, , electronic fire control, laser sensor, BCN gear (including 2 SNPS navigation units, FVT unit, and 4 MTRN communication units), digital data bus and radio interface unit, laser range finder, digital ballistic computer, and other classified systems. All electronics systems are tied into a digital appliqué command and control package on the Turret Network Box (TNB) and Hull Network Box (HNB) . This allows easy maintenance, as well as allowing future electronic growth by providing unpopulated card slots.

Variants: Several Mission modules, which fit into the base vehicle, provide static battlefield installations to suit the nation specific requirements, including headquarters, medical units and logistic centres. The modules incorporate a primary safety cell with a triple floor. The base vehicle operates independently from the modules. The units are air transportable. The modules are interchangeable in less than one hour.
Varients include: NBC Scout, Artillery Support Vehicle, Cargo Carrier, Electronic Warfare vehicle, Fire Control Vehicle, Fire Direction Center, Forward Observation Vehicle, Medical Evacuation Vehicle, Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Target Acquisition vehicle, Anti-Aircraft, Mortar Carrier, and All Threat Missile Carrier
Daistallia 2104
12-02-2005, 17:45
30 hour bump
Layarteb
12-02-2005, 18:06
I think that would fit into 2005 to 2010 actually. It's tough to read because you don't space between paragraphs but I don't think it would last 5 seconds in 2050 - 2100 world.
Aqua Nation Atlantica
12-02-2005, 18:26
Looks good for near future!

(Might want to buy some for testing purposes oh fellow Greenlander..)
Daistallia 2104
12-02-2005, 18:49
I think that would fit into 2005 to 2010 actually. It's tough to read because you don't space between paragraphs but I don't think it would last 5 seconds in 2050 - 2100 world.

All the tech is aimed at stuff in early developemt or drawingboard stage in 2005. Anyone claiming it as 2005 mature tech should be considered either loose or godmode, depending on what level of realism you are aiming at.

The armor is a light version of that which was vetted as being realistic for a 2050-2100 time frame in the post linked above. The original armor (tank) was 5xRHA steel. That was ajudged as being "people will refuse the tank simply because of the nigh indestructable nature".

In addition, armor consisting of "foam titanium alloy, reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers, and a ceramic matrix, reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers; and a spalling shield made up of several sheets of 2-D weave boron filament, bioweave (artificial spider silk polymer), and polyethylene fiber" is well beyond 2005-2010. As are "prismatic anti-laser aerosol launchers", "proton exchange membrane fuel cells" with "alkali-modified fullerene nanotube lattice hydrogen canisters". And so is the "700 THz main processor". And the "thixotrope non-hypergolic binary hydrazine propellant" has been questioned even in the 2050 timeframe.

;)

End result, anyone who thinks their 2005 modern tech will make quick work of this is in for a hard surprise or an ignore.

However, thank you for your input. If you can make specific points which you think 2005 tech trumps this, please do.
Mekugi
12-02-2005, 19:23
Its rather realistic but theres some question on the true effectiveness of prismatic aerosls effect on weapons grade high powered lasers whose thermal blom would mostlikely just push the particles tot eh side with little effect. Now aiming lasers is another matter entirely, but it would be cheaper to use existing SPIRCO (Spontaneous IR COver) grenades which would graner protection against aiming lasers, tele-sighted muntions, IR tracking, infact just about everythign but Radar Guidance... but chaff wouldnt be that hard to add to such a system honestly.
Daistallia 2104
12-02-2005, 20:09
At closer ranges (30 to 1 meter), the second line is activated. This includes electro-optical IR jammers, as well as radar, UV, and IR decoy systems. The decoys provide false targets to multi-spectral IR/laser or millimeter-wave threats. The decoys provides survivable miss distance against missiles and SFM threats. Also included are 66mm smoke grenade dischargers, chaff rockets, flare rockets, anti-laser aerosol projectors. The ALA projectors release a thick metal oxide vapor which reflects incident high-frequency laser light, while absorbing particle beam energy. The gas cloud released by the ALA obscures LOS for any unaugmented unit. The ALA also has limited radar scattering effects. The smoke grenades are for visible and IR making. The chaff rockets provide radar masking, and the flares act as IR decoys.

Is it really that easy to miss. :(

How can I make it clearer?

Thanks for helping point out the weakness' in the description. :D
Daistallia 2104
13-02-2005, 05:31
Bump
Layarteb
13-02-2005, 06:45
Fuel cells are already a reality and used in the German U-214. The aresol spray isn't much, hell it doesn't take a lot to thwart a laser beam that's for sure. The armor isn't all that much either. The range is about the only thing on that that called my attention.
Daistallia 2104
13-02-2005, 07:57
Fuel cells are already a reality and used in the German U-214. The aresol spray isn't much, hell it doesn't take a lot to thwart a laser beam that's for sure. The armor isn't all that much either. The range is about the only thing on that that called my attention.

Well the fuel cells are bumped up in efficiancy and the fuel canisters are also quite a ways off.
Metal foams are still relatively new in 2005, and I am assuming large scale microgravity production. And the same goes for the other armor materials.

(Please keep picking away. The clearer this becomes the better. :))
Daistallia 2104
13-02-2005, 08:03
Two new ones:

AGM-2-CET Combat Engineer Tractor (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/engineer/cet.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/cet.jpg

AGM-2-CET Combat Engineer Tractor

The purpose of this vehicle is construction of defensive positions and demolition of enemy fortifications, and for breaching, obstacle removal, transportation of demolition teams, and pioneering operations. The vehicle is based on the AGM-2.


Crew: 6
Total Length: 6.8 m
Hull Length: 5.2 m
Gun Overhang: .6 m
Width: 2.83 m
Height: 2.01 m
Combat Weight: 60,135 kg

Armament:
Primary Armament: 1x180 mm demolition gun-mortar
Range, direct fire: 4000 m
Ammunition types: HE, HE-Frag, HEAT-FS, Illumination , Smoke (WP), Incendiary, Chemical, Flechette, and High Explosive Squash Head (HESH)
Transverse: 15 deg R/L
Elevation: -10 deg to +80 deg
Rate of fire, maximum: 12 rpm
Rate of fire, sustained: 6 rpm
Emplace/displace time (indirect fire): 1 minute

Secondary Armament: 2x 7mm DMI MG-3s, 6 x 66mm Smoke Dischargers, 2 prismatic anti laser aerosol dispensers
Ammunition Carried: 85x120mm, 4000x7mm

Mobility:
Power: 8 proton exchange membrane fuel cells, generating 120 kWs each, for a total of 480 kWs, lithium polymer batteries generating 3000 kWh
Power/Weight Ratio: kW/tn
Max Road Speed: 95 km/h
Max Off Road Speed: 75 km/h
Fuel Carried: 8 alkali-modified fullerene nanotube lattice hydrogen canisters, containing 2kg of hydrogen each (100 kg) � 40 hours supply
Transmission: Hydro Kinetic Automatic 3/3
Road Range: 2000km
Off Road Range: 1500km
Track Width: 40cm
Track Ground Contact: 310cm
Ground Pressure: kg/cm3
Turn Radius: pivot
Fording: 1.2m
Gradient: 60%
Side Slope: 30%
Vertical Obstical: .75m
Trench Crossing: 1.25m

Armor:
Hull:
Front: 400mm@60 deg (3600mm HRA equivilant)
Side: 250mm@0 deg (750mm HRA equivilant)
Rear: 150mm@0 deg (450mm RHA equivilant)
Top/Bottom: 100mm@0 deg (300mm RHA equivilant)
Contengency package:
Front: +100mm@60 deg (900mm HRA equivilant)
Side: +100mm@0 deg (300mm HRA equivilant)

Cost: 12 million USD


Notes and Features:
Comes equiped with a a retractable boom and winch/crane, dozer blade, and rear bucket loader.
Both the fuel and ammunition are compartmented to enhance survivability. The hull is protected by advanced armor. When required, the vehicle may be fitted with "reactive armor" to thwart armor-defeating munitions.
Armamaent
The main weapon of the AGM-2 is a 120mm smoothboreGu/mortar, employing a thixotrope non-hypergolic binary hydrazine propellant, with a freezing point of -100 C and a boiling point of 102.3 C. It is injected by a computerized system in the precise proportions needed to generate the acceleration/final velocity/range deisred for the trajectory wanted. It has a muzzle velocity of 1000 m/sec. Direct engagement ranges are approximately 4000 meters and indirect ranges are 10 km for standard rounds and 16km for rocket assisted rounds. Several types of ammunition are available.

Layout
The layout of the AGM-2 follows classic assaultgun design and accommodates a crew of four: commander, gunner, driver, and loader. The Commander is seated on the left side of thecenter hull. The Gunner is seated on the left side front, the loader on the right side center, and the Driver is seated at the rightside front of the hull.
Stabilization
The turret and gun system are equiped with various weapon stabilization systems, including electric direct, barrel actuator active damping control, fully integrated gearless turret/gun direct drives, and digital servo control, increasing probability of hit under moving conditions.
A deep water fording kit is available.

Electronic systems:
Independent thermal imaging, forward looking infrared (FLIR), electronic and optical day sights, integrated electronic controls and multi-funtion OLED displays, , electronic fire control, laser sensor, BCN gear (including 2 SNPS navigation units, FVT unit, and 4 MTRN communication units), digital data bus and radio interface unit, laser range finder, digital ballistic computer, and other classified systems. All electronics systems are tied into a digital appliqu� command and control package on the Hull Network Box (HNB. This allows easy maintenance, as well as allowing future electronic growth by providing unpopulated card slots.

Protection
The stowage for the main armament ammunition is in armored ammunition boxes behind sliding armor doors. Armor bulkheads separate the crew compartment from the fuel tanks. The AGM-2 is equipped with an automatic fire extinguishing system. This system automatically activates within 2 milliseconds of either a flash or a fire within the various compartments of the vehicle. The top panels are designed to blow outwards in the event of penetration by a HEAT projectile.
Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare protection is provided by an overpressure clean-air conditioning air system, a radiological warning system, and a chemical agent detector. The crew are individually equipped with protective suits and masks.
Passive Protection:
Basic passive armor consists of a layered composite. The outermost layer is a thin sprayed on layer of armor quality polyethylene. Next are several sandwiched layers of foam steel alloy, reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers, and a ceramic matrix, also reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers. This is backed with a layer of foam titanium alloy reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers. The innermost layer is a spalling shield made up of several sheets of 2-D weave boron filament, bioweave, and polyethylene fiber. The combined elements have a total Specific Strength* (MPa-cm3/g) of 450, or 3 times that of RHA steel armor. The armor is installed in modular sections for quick and esy replacement and maintainance.
Lightweight contingency armor packages of polyethylene and foam titanium alloy reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers armor skirts can can be applied to the sides and front to provide additional protection. The full contengency package adds an extra 3000 kg to the vehicles weight.

Active Protection:
The primary active protection system is the Active Defense System (ADS), which incorporates various sensors, prsmatic anti-laser aerosol launchers and smoke projectors, non-explosive reactive armor systems, defensive lasers, defensive electronics systems, and kinetic defense systems.
The center of all the active defense systems is the All Aspect System (AAS). It uses 20 sets of detector arrays (16 in azimuth, and 4 in elevation) to cover the entire hemisphere. The detectors are multi-spectral sensitive: low light visual, lasers, radars, IR homers, proxemity, and other sensors. The warning system triggers various alarms, as well as defensive systems. It is controlled by a 700 THz main processor and an array of low-end subprocessors, with 64PB of onboard dataspace, which classifies the inbound threat and assigns the right countermeasure to defeat it. The countermeasures systems are automatically activated. After a threat is detecte, the appropriate countermeasure units are traversed at high slewing rate (over 600 degrees/sec.) aiming at the general directional of the threat. At this stage the target is handed over to the launcher mounted sensor, which performs the ballistic calculations for the final intercept.
The first system to be activated is the the Ranged Electronic/Laser/Kinetic Kill System (RELKKS). This is designed to be active in the 100 to 30 meter range. It provides self-protection against a broad range of incomming systems using soft kill electronic countermeasures (jammers and decoys) and hard kill active protection systems (physical interruption) to protect a vehicle from direct fire and top attack threats. This system includes a High Energy Radio Frequency/Microwave System (HERFMS), a Laser Kill System (LKS), and a Kinetic Kill System (KKS) . The system activated depends on the threat. The HERFMS kills inbound guidance systems. The LKS kills optical systems. And the KKS launches a projectile in the direction of the incoming threat, to intercept and destroy it at a distance of 30 meters.
At closer ranges (30 to 1 meter), the second line is activated. This includes electro-optical IR jammers, as well as radar, UV, and IR decoy systems. The decoys provide false targets to multi-spectral IR/laser or millimeter-wave threats. The decoys provides survivable miss distance against missiles and SFM threats. Also included are 66mm smoke grenade dischargers, chaff rockets, flare rockets, anti-laser aerosol projectors. The ALA projectors release a thick metal oxide vapor which reflects incident high-frequency laser light, while absorbing particle beam energy. The gas cloud released by the ALA obscures LOS for any unaugmented unit. The ALA also has limited radar scattering effects. The smoke grenades are for visible and IR making. The chaff rockets provide radar masking, and the flares act as IR decoys.
The close range (1-0 meter) active defenses include airbag and electric armor. The airbag system deploys a "curtain" down the sides of the vehicle held in place with simple straps. On detection of incoming shells, rockets, or missiles, the airbag inflates, using a carbon dioxide gas cartridge. The warhead is enshrouded in the airbag and slowed enough so the nose-mounted fuse doesn't detonate the warhead. Instead, the incoming weapon collapses and ends up looking "like a stomped-on beer can". The cartridge has to be replaced after one use, but the reusable airbag can simply be rolled up and put back into place.
The electronic "charged" armor system is composed of an earthed outer armored plate, a spaced gap, and an inner charged plate a highly connected to a charged capacitor. Shaped charge warheads detonate, penetrate the outer armor plate and the insulation of the inner plate, it completes the circuit, which results in the discharge of the capacitor and the vaporisation and dissapation of most of the the metal jet. The charged plates can take multiple hits onto the same section of the hull without penetration. Power to charge the plates is provided from the powerplant. The electrical system can be switched on or off depending on the perceived threat level, using the tank's internal power supply. Despite the high charge generated by the system, the "electrical load on the battery is no more than that caused by starting the engine on a cold morning".


REAV Remote Engineer Armored Vehicle (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/daistallia/DMI/engineer/reav.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Daistallia/reav.jpg
The REAV is a remotely operated combat earthmover. It is designed to protect personnel from uneccessary exposure to hazardous situations, and to provide a robust suite of tools for e protection and active range clearance. It is designed to perform critical combat engineer tasks such as digging hull defilade fighting positions for guns, tanks and other battlefield systems to increase their survivability. It is also intended for breaching berms, preparing anti-tank ditches and combat roads, removing roadblocks and preparing access routes at water obstacles.

Length: 5m
Width: 3.2m
Height: 2.1m
Speed: 45kph
Weight: 15,360kg; 24,540kg w/ ballast
Max. Grade: 20% w/ bowl empty, 30% w/2000 kg in bowl, 60% w/9000kg in bowl
Slope (Side): 20% w/ bowl empty, 30% w/ 2000kg in bowl, 40% w/ 9000kg in bowl
Ground Clearance: 35cm
Trench Crossing: 150cm
Min. Turning Radius: Pivot
Vertical Obsticle: 45cm
Fording Depth: 100 cm
Bowl Capacity: 9 cubic meters
Crew: 1
Range: approx. 300km
Engine: 3 proton exchange membrane fuel cells, generating 120 kWs each, for a total of 360 kWs
Armament: none
Armor:
Hull:
Front: 150 mm@0 deg (450mm HRA equivilant)
Side: 150 mm@0 deg (450mm HRA equivilant)
Rear: 150 mm@0 deg (450mm RHA equivilant)
Additional Equipment: Winch (15,900kg), Dozer blade
Unit cost: $2.8 million

Basic passive armor consists of a layered composite. The outermost layer is a thin sprayed on layer of armor quality polyethylene. Next are several sandwiched layers of foam steel alloy, reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers, and a ceramic matrix, also reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers. This is backed with a layer of foam titanium alloy reinforced with embedded carbide whiskers. The innermost layer is a spalling shield made up of several sheets of 2-D weave boron filament, bioweave, and polyethylene fiber. The combined elements have a total Specific Strength* (MPa-cm3/g) of 450, or 3 times that of RHA steel armor. The armor is installed in modular sections for quick and esy replacement and maintainance.

All functions, including: engine start/stop, propulsion, lights, and all tool operations, are controlled remotely. The standard configuration includes provisions for two fixed video cameras and the control system is equipped to handle up to two cameras with pan/tilt mounts. A pair of digital radios is used to transmit command signals from the Operator Control Unit (OCU) to the vehicle, and an independent transmitter/receiver pair communicates audio and video from the vehicle to the OCU.
The OCU is housed in a heavy-duty, internally shock-isolated case. The OCU antennas are mounted on a portable tripod, which can be conveniently stowed on top of the tractor during transport. Emergency stop buttons, located on either side of the tractor, will immediately shut down all tractor functions, including the engine. In addition, a remotely operated pintle hitch on the platform provides the capability to tow and release a payload while an attachment is employed on the mounting plate.
The main tool is a 9 cubic yard bowl, apron and dozer blade. However, alternate tool sets are available. These include a set of actuated arms and forks (for picking up and moving objects), a 90mm water cannon, a backhoe, a surface clearance blade, and a flail for mine-field breeching. Changing out tool sets is easily done in a matter of 2-3 hours.
Layarteb
14-02-2005, 03:09
Well the fuel cells are bumped up in efficiancy and the fuel canisters are also quite a ways off.
Metal foams are still relatively new in 2005, and I am assuming large scale microgravity production. And the same goes for the other armor materials.

(Please keep picking away. The clearer this becomes the better. :))

Yeah you got me there. Ehh I think I'm out. I like the design though. It's the same "picture" as my M2012 Maurader so I commend thee :).
Daistallia 2104
14-02-2005, 11:09
Yeah you got me there. Ehh I think I'm out. I like the design though. It's the same "picture" as my M2012 Maurader so I commend thee :).

Can't be the same pic - unless you're lifting it... :(
I photoshopped it pretty well so it would be unique. A bit of the Fuchs + a bit of the LAV + several bits and pieces of other vehicles, then stretched and squashed in a few spots. The REAV is the only pic I haven'e shopped up - largely because I have yet to find the right pic of an ACE to shop up... ;)
Daistallia 2104
16-02-2005, 09:39
One last bump...
Verdant Archipelago
16-02-2005, 12:18
AS far as I kinow, the fuel canister concept has been more or less discounted because though you can store a lot of hydrogen in it, it's very hard to get it out again. Your fuel cells are also... amaizingly efficient. The armor is very post modern, and laser-softkill systems for tanks are currently impractical. The airbag sounds a bit like momentum transfer armor, but would only be useable against a single incoming projectile. And 700THz... is a lot of Hz.

All in all, it's a set of very practical, interesting near-future vehicles... I'd put them in the 2020-2050 range myself, but then again, I'm notoriously pessamistic about development speed. Very well researched, and nicely designed. Excelent =) If I were in that timeframe, I'd snap them up.
Daistallia 2104
16-02-2005, 17:25
AS far as I kinow, the fuel canister concept has been more or less discounted because though you can store a lot of hydrogen in it, it's very hard to get it out again. Your fuel cells are also... amaizingly efficient. The armor is very post modern, and laser-softkill systems for tanks are currently impractical. The airbag sounds a bit like momentum transfer armor, but would only be useable against a single incoming projectile. And 700THz... is a lot of Hz.

All in all, it's a set of very practical, interesting near-future vehicles... I'd put them in the 2020-2050 range myself, but then again, I'm notoriously pessamistic about development speed. Very well researched, and nicely designed. Excelent =) If I were in that timeframe, I'd snap them up.

Thanks.

The airbag armor's in development now. The current design is one use, but they're working on a reusable system.

long url (http://www.strategypage.com/search.asp?target=c:\inetpub\strategypageroot\fyeo\howtomakewar\docs\archives\htarm5a.htm&search=airbag) (it's the November 8, 2004 report)
http://www.defense-update.com/products/i/IABS.htm

The laser system is an incremental step or two up from the JD-3 laser self-defence weapon system on the PRC's latest tank.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type98.asp

And the 700THz - #946 in the last UN IT ranking. :D That adds up to a lot of computing power (and I assume, having gotten that AI issue so many times, we musy have some pretty wicked AIs - which helps with the defense systems. ;))

(Over all, the UN rankings of #2,186 defense, #3,304 arms manufacturing, and #8,612 auto manufacturing make for a pretty nice defense industry base.)