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Hogsweatian Forces storm into Shen Zou!

Hogsweat
11-02-2005, 03:11
2 AM, Chukraine Time, February 10th
General Toshe Saiyan, following his immediate promotion, had flown to the Chukraine. In the two days he had been there, he had six hours of sleep under his belt. He had visited every regiment to be involved in the battle, met each pilot, overseen movement of supplies. He had made the neccessary calls, signed the neccessary documents, and rested for six hours before being woken up by a somewhat overexcited aide, and told he had a call from the Autocrat. It was brief, and to the point, and in Toshe's opinion not worth waking him up for. He was then told the invasion was to begin in two hours - he dressed, ate, and drove to the Command Post. Dear god, what a two days.

EeeuuurruuNG the ninth plane took off, flying into the sky as the next was loaded onto the elavator, and ejected upwards. The still water lapped at the sides of the aircraft carrier.

"Comrade.. we are reading a total of twenty four aircraft in the sky already."

"Excellent. There will be hundreds in the sky before long. Anyone opposing us does not stand a chance. We shall SMASH the attackers of our homeland!"

"Long Live the Motherland!" The chorus of sailors echoed, in a canon, throughout the lines of men on the aircraft carrier. Death to the fascists. The ships nearby began the chant also. The aircraft regrouped, two squadrons in the sky [twenty four craft] and zoomed off into Shen Zou, another twenty four behind them, their engines screaming in the dark sky. Screaming for vengeance.

In one great move, the thousands of trucks and tanks belonging to the Hogsweatian Army revved their engines, and in one rather straight line drove down into Shen Zou, past the Vilitov Forest (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/Hogsweat/MAP.gif), and in fifty minutes time in Shen Zou, advancing steadily. Every single squad, every single infantryman, where either resting in trucks, clinging onto humming tanks, or looking out the side of a Jeep, their rifle scanning the horizon for any sign of an enemy.

However, the Hogsweatian's weren't going to give the Tiburonese an easy target. Overhead, squadron after squadron after squadron of the Air Watch flying in the clouds, pristine formations unbroken, pilots ever wary. Laser guidance devices scanned for targets constantly. Beeps from sattelites indicated friendly movement, uploading data onto neural pads for use. Complete radio silence. It was eery. Every soldier felt like they were part of the grandest operation in Hogsweatian Military History since Commandos of the 92nd Regiment captured William Fabus in hostile territory. Everything was perfect. It had been practiced, in theory, what would happen, a hundred times. The Army Reservists too. It wasn't exactly a huge military force, but it was trained and elite.

Higher in the sky, a group of fourty Strategic Bombers, bristling with cruise missiles and escorted by a rather similar amount of escorts was, in a speed of around mach three, searing through the sky like a hot knife through butter, on their way to the latest signalled Tiburonese military concentration.

The country had been geared for war for years. This moment, this day, this was their time. This was their war. And they would win.
Edolia
11-02-2005, 04:00
Press Announcement; Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Transcript published publicly
“The Socialist Empire of Edölia views this action by our neighbors in Hogweat in the harshest possible light and condemns their unlawful invasion of Shenzhou in the strongest language. Although due to the current political climate in Edölia, it would be impossible for us to offer assistance to those working to restrain Hogsweat, I wish to make it absolutely clear that our government is strongly against any attempt by the Hogsweatian government to annex inhabited land not rightfully theirs. Edölia is a diverse nation, and nearly one quarter of our population is Chinese. Even if that were not the case, we would still find ourselves strongly against any imperialist action, regardless of its target. I hope that the Hogsweatian government will see reason and withdraw before it finds itself in a situation that it will have difficulty escaping from.”
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Diplomatic Communiqué
To: The Scandavian States
“We in the Scarlet Empire have watched as war has unfolded between you and our neighbor to the South and we are rather concerned over their recent actions. It is therefore our decision to grant the Imperial Air Force over flight rights through Edolian airspace if required. We will ask that all military operations utilizing Edolian airspace be registered with the Edolian intelligence agency. Hopefully, this small token shall be of assistance and I am sorry that, due to the political situation in Edölia and the current atmosphere within the Union of Socialist Republics, we cannot offer more.”
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Hogsweat
11-02-2005, 04:22
OFFICAL STATEMENT
We hereby call for all Tiburonese forces to surrender. any Tiburonese forces that do not surrender will be wiped out. Our allies are ready to strike. Please, in the name of peace, surrender. It is impossible for Tiburon to win this battle. We will not back down. Victory to the Union.
The Island States
11-02-2005, 04:37
The First Fleet got their orders. They swifted drifted into position over Shenzhou and began broadcasting a message above and below their position: "New Haven forces are enforcing a blockade of aerospace traffic over Shenzhou. Any aerospace military forces attempting to pass through the blockade, either leaving or reentering, will be shot down on sight. No attempts will be made to disable vehicles, they will be destroyed if they attempt to run the blockade. That is all."

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New Haven State-Run News

"In a turn-around from USR policy, the New Haven legislature ordered the use of force to blockade Shenzhou's orbital space from approach or departure by unauthorized aerospace forces. Legislative Comrade Gary Powers, a Socialist member who has recently gained tremendous support for his "True Revolution" campaign, had this to say on the Legislature Floor:"

"The [USR] cannot stop us from protecting true followers of the Revolution!" *Cheers and applause from many members* "We will follow them until all non-followers and posers in Haven are brought to the true path! Long live the Revolution! Long live the Party!" *Cheering and desk-hitting rises to a climax from many members of the Legislative Floor.

"President Newman had this to say following the deployment of forces by the Legislature:"

"It is the will of the people that we help Hogsweat in their bid to obtain 'free' territory, citing Edolia's capture of Mid-Haven Strait islands and other bids for empty territory. Tiburon's request to hold onto Shenzhou, not _Taiwan's, gives us cause for concern on how the land, which contains a New Haven Military Outpost, will be properly governed. In such, we will be sending not only our blockading force, but several divisions of power armor troops to establish peaceful communist rule on this 'unclaimed' stretch of territory."

"This is War Watch on NHSRN..."
The Freethinkers
11-02-2005, 05:24
Joint Command Centre, Puerto Valadola, Midland Territory, Haven

‘You have got to be kidding me’ Bywater stated. His eyes were concentrated on the holographic screen displaying text in front of him, a white of digital paper hanging above the large three-dimensional display of Haven and the surrounding battle space in massive arching dome that rose to the roof of the command room. On it was displayed nearly every Haven nation and their arrayed forces that could be viewed within the somewhat limited sensor ranges of the Freethinker’s various radars and orbital watchers, all compiled into the Overlord system and updated every so often.

Usually with an Overlord display the data was refreshed every few microseconds, the updates coming so fast that it looked more like watching an animation than a static display of enemy units, but because of the range of sources (every ship, plane, satellite and space borne warship was busy transmitting data through the Overlord network) the computer simply switched to updating the image every five seconds or so to catch all updates at once. This minor delay meant fast units might ‘jump’ from one position to another, and this was true with the various icons displaying the New Haven fleet holding position above Shen Zou, flashing in out of existence as scanners updated every now and then.

‘Fuck the revolution’ Bywater muttered under his breathed. He fingers tapped a few controls, the view zoomed over the top of Shen Zou, giving a clearer definition of the attack and defending forces. Because only a few satellites and semi-civilian prowler were the only nearby sensor sources, the definitions were hazy and incomplete, but nonetheless gave a clear impression of precisely what both Hogsweat and now the New Haven Socialists were up to. Bywater watched the trails of the aircraft, his brow furrowing for a moment. “We can’t let this happen. The Commies are becoming far too aggressive, they can oppress their own, fine, but not innocents spread here and there, we need to do something.”

“Its just too bad we can’t do anything now, can we?” Alexius Cereo, a ranked Pathfinder sitting in combat form in the dark shadow behind him. Even lacking armour and sitting down, he still towered over the general by a foot or so. Massive sinewy arms with leather-like skin stretched and drooped slightly with each breathe, but the shining red eyes kept on Bywater without even a flinch or a blink.

“No…” Bywater landed a fist on the display, causing a set of crack to appear where he had struck it. “Simply not enough. Not here, not halfway around the world from home.” He stared back at Alexius for a moment. “You know, I am slowly beginning to lose hope for Haven. I really am."
Zepplin Manufacturers
11-02-2005, 13:58
Lunar Orbit.

The view is that of Stars. Darkness and space surround, then the view pans, Megacity Three slides into view. In moments the vast glittering edifice fills the viewpoint. The disk of the Freeport surrounded by long streams of traffic. Pan down however and you see the bulks of the super capital capable construction bays. From one of them light streams as its doors open to space.

“This is Z.M.S.F. Management Buyout to central we are now clear of all docking clamps and all docking tubes are retracted”

The “Management Buyout” had been the first of her class, a command carrier, pride of the Z.M.S.F., largest ship in the fleet at 8 kilometres from stern to prow, her main task was as the heart of a task force. She was the only ship of the fleet large enough to carry a full logic stack, capable of backing up an entire task forces personnel. Designed for supporting roles rather than the wall of battle she was still armed. She toted vast banks of rapid fire counter shipping guns in recessed covered bays, huge ultra heavy siege missile launch cells, turreted ion cannons, and one mammoth main spinal weapon mount. Her flanks were packed with corvette bays, and frigate docking points, she could even empty her frigate bays completely to allow a cruiser to be carried. Originally much larger her latest refit had seen a swathe of the ships length removed. She was still a leviathan but now she was a sleek one.

She made her way out of the bay, manoeuvred a few hundred kilometres from the huge orbital form of Megacity Three and began to position for burn. Around her a task force assembled, battle cruisers, missile cruisers, drone carriers, the darts of black star frigates, the lumpy masses of harsh market condition class beam frigates and the contorted weapon filled hulls of destroyers.

”This formation is now designated Battle Fleet Task force four. Stand by for primary burn”

A few moments later the harsh white flares of drive flames ripped through the scene. The task force began its plodding trajectory towards Earth and Shen Zou.
Edolia
11-02-2005, 14:33
"The Scarlet Empire has, due to the deteriorating situation in regards to the oppressive nation of Hogsweat and due to the current political turmoil in Edölia, immediately ordered the withdrawal of all foreign military personnel from Edolian territory, excluding those military bases leased to Pauldustllah and Iuthia. Furthermore, I wish to express our dissapointment that our friends in the New Haven Socialist Republic have sided with Hogsweat, an oppressive and aggressive nation that gives all socialists a bad name and is an enemy to the revolution."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ilek-Vaad
11-02-2005, 18:21
This action does not invlove the Free Republic in any way and simply proves our point that our neighbors in Haven are selfish spoiled children that believe that they can take what ever they want and do whatever they want. It pleases us to no end that these pathetic excuses for nations will be thinning the ranks of their own dull witted populations against each other.

The Free Republic will not be involved in any manner, none of these nations involved are worth even the life of a single Retaliatory Guardsman.

Minister of Foreign Affairs Ilek-Vaad
Guffingford
11-02-2005, 18:27
"Again this shows the aggressive nature of communist and socialist nations. No respect for the international laws, just invasing, raping and looting like the barbarians they are. The nations of Haven are, what Ilek-Vaad said so well, a bunch of spoilt liberal childred with a wasted youth because of heresy. They do not follow the word of God or the Holy Scripture; only lies told and written by Karl Marx.

We do not want to be involved in such trivial matters.

- Adolph Leighmar, Führer of National Socialist Guffingford, the Holy Dual Empire of Guffingford-Panooly.
Alcona and Hubris
11-02-2005, 18:43
To: All Klatchian States
From: Admiral Fitzhew, acting Director of JDF Third Fleet
Be advised that all commerical shipping in the area of Haven should be on the alert for possible hostile actions. It is recommended that ships should only move in convoy with Klatchian State Naval Escorts.
Ilek-Vaad
11-02-2005, 18:55
To:Admiral Fitzhew, acting Director of JDF Third Fleet
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

Be advised that Klatchian Warships operating in Haven are allowed to utilize all Vaadian ports that are designated for International Shipping. If any Klatchian Warships experience any difficulty escorting Klatchian merchant ships or are unable to provide sufficent escort, please contact our Naval Guard for assistance.

We sincerely hope that all merchant shipping can remain safe and undisturbed by the actions of a few poorly mannered nations.

Sir Alec Connover, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad
Kroblexskij
11-02-2005, 19:10
Official government statement

We wish to know the full reasons for this invasion of this neighbouring nation. the Air forces of Kroblexskij are at hand to secure peace and supply arms and aid to any country it deems in unlawful danger, although we hope that they may not be used now. We will be watching this closely for escalation of the matter, as for now we intend to stay neutral and hope that this can be sorted through a means of democratic meetings.

Premier Vskayskij

all kroblexskijan intelligence sattelites are to be directed towards the region of haven STOP Deploy project OVERCAST repeat DEPLOY PROJECT OVERCAST STOP


Deep in space , the small, silver, oddly angled lump slowly unfolded , sunlight glinting off the cracks and frost from the point zero temperatures.

If you had another sattelite or large telescope, you may have been able to just make out the OVERC appearing on the red sides, or perhaps the vast array of sensors and loose wires and antennae.
Kriegorgrad
11-02-2005, 19:16
Deep within the bowels of a COMSEC surveillance centre, activity suddenly popped into life. Kriegorgrad had resigned from its aggressive stance after the Hogsweatian war, it was not wise to irritate the puppeteer as Kriegorgrad had learned the hard way, Hogsweat was adept at having its puppets nearby and when Kriegorgrad tried to put pressure on the Hogsweatians, the strings that kept the puppets at bay became taut and quickly, the puppets came in, snapping at Kriegorgrad’s heels like rabid dogs, each one searching for the act that will give them that bit more favour from Hogsweat than their compatriots. Kriegorgrad learned it was best to befriend the puppet master but also to be sure not to loosen any strings or pull any too tight for the perfect harmony of the puppeteer would be disrupted and what use is a puppeteer without his puppets?

Kriegorgrad has long since given up its hope of claiming the land that was under the veil of the Hogsweatian outpost, instead, Kriegorgrad had quickly taken up the mantle of Hogsweatian ally in order to shield itself from the powerful puppets Hogsweat had at its disposal, however Kriegorgrad never going to be one of those nations that blindly supported Hogsweat, no, Kriegorgrad would only support when it had something to gain, no matter how mysterious that gain was.

In the dark room, filled with high end equipment, a gentle hum came from the bleeding edge equipment.

”Comrade Sir, I have something…location is a disputed zone, “Shen Zhou” it’s called, involved factions are the Hogsweatians, communist autocracy, Edolia, imperial socialism, Tiburon, suspected socialist, The Island States, socialist again. There are others but they need to be explained more thoroughly in the report.”

Said Comrade Katie Slavok, her narrow dark features gave her more intelligence than she deserved, while not the brightest spark, she was very proficient at her task of rifling through the massive amount of intelligence that came to COMSEC each day. Her superior, Comrade O’brien, had wide features, a broad nose, small ears that a jaw that jutted out, instantly speaking of ignorance and stupid aggression, despite his outward demeanour of naïve stupidity, it was never wise to underestimate one of the key leaders of COMSEC. Communist Orthodoxy & Motherland Security was very careful about who it picked , they looked through every record you had and scrutinised every physical feature. Only one percent of the total population was considered for the group, about one tenth of that made it through the first tests. Out of every five hundred chosen potentials, one potential became a member of COMSEC.

”Very well, keep tabs on the situation, it will have a level three priority, two stars, a direct link to the Fedorenkov Guard* and satellite Haven-E 07 to change position to Shen Zhou, 159-983.”

”Yes Comrade Sir.”

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High up in the dark inky expanse of space, a Kriegos satellite changed position, its super high tech optics and imagery equipment readjusting as it switched from its position over Edolia to Shen Zhou, a hot zone for intelligence, thousands of terabytes of data were being fed to COMSEC H.Q every single second thanks to the extremely advanced information technology Kriegorgrad had at its disposal. Kriegorgrad was crude in many ways, however, its intelligence was perhaps one of the most professional groups in the world. Nothing escaped the all seeing eye of COMSEC.

How else could the people of Kriegorgrad be oppressed so effectively without someone watching them at all times.

OOC: *You’ll hear more about the Fedorenkov Guard soon enough.
Edolia
11-02-2005, 22:35
<<OOC: By the way, everyone, it's "Shenzhou" or "Shen Zhou" (however you want to write it), but definetely not Shen Zou. It's Chinese and means "sacred continent" (China).>>
Auman
11-02-2005, 23:29
Aumanii High Command, Vascilia County.

Overlord Rosiro was stooped over the mapping table which was ever present in high command. Head in hands, Rosiro shook with rage. General Polosh stood at the Overlords side waiting for him to calm down before delivering even more devastating news. 'Overlord, De Los Santos has blamed Hogsweat for the sinking...' said Polosh, unenthusiastically, Rosiro cut him off 'God damn it all to hell! My plan, ruined by incompetance!' Polosh sighed 'So it seems Overlord...I knew we should've kept a better eye on the money. Rosiro shrugged and said dismissively 'Its only money, not like we actually lost anything. Remove our fleets from Earth orbit. Polosh nodded in acknowledgement and turned to walk away, 'But first...' said the Overlord, 'Have them bomb Shenzhou into dust, give Hogsweat five hours to get their men somewhere safe and annihilate everything in the combat zone. God damn Tiburon, they'll pay just like the others!' A smile broke across the face of General Polosh as he clicked his heels in salute of his good friend, the Overlord of Auman, 'Your will be done Lord.'

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A wide band message was sent out from the flagship of the Aumanii Task Force stationed at Earth, hidden during the first stages of the battle Shenzhou.

'Forces of Haven. You have angered Vascilia and its ruling council. Your failure in the eyes of my superiors has forced my hand and though I do not regret what Iam about to do, I realize the importance of human life and regret the actions of your governments. Your weakness has lead to your downfall. Bow before the might of Vascilia, bring your differences unto them. Negotiate your disputes. If you choose to stand up before our might, you will be knocked down. Fight us and you will be killed. Dispute us and you will fail.

Admiral Fleckt, Aumanii Armed Forces, signing off.'

Moments after the message was received the barrage began, North East Shenzhou was the first to suffer the attack. Dozens of weapons were unleashed, FAE, missile and cannon, targetting Tiburonese troop concentrations, manned and unmanned defences and even particularly notable georgraphical features were levelled. In the thirty seconds the assault lasted, over 30 million tonnes of munitions were expended by the 16 vessels of the Task Force. Shenzhou, the focus of the Overlords rage, would be destroyed.

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On Mars the Aumanii military went into high alert. Reservists were put on warning, the Airforce tripled combat air patrols and the fleets assembled near Mars, should Tiburon press the attack on the red planet. Though the likelyhood that Tiburon military high command would be stupid enough to launch an attack on Aumanii assets in and around the Mars system was low, it still payed to be on guard. As always, Aumanii Intra-Continental Ballistic Missile systems were keyed in to all non-MIDAS nations and of course, in the event of an assault, non-nuclear, high yield missiles, would strike at the industrial heart of Tiburon Mars.

OOC:

For my reasoning, check out Zvarinograd's thread "The Great Schism"
Bryn Shander
12-02-2005, 00:10
"The Principalties of Forodren Annon and Forodren Cormandor, as well as the Kingdom of Bryn Shander as a whole, condemn the actions taken by Hogsweat and the New Haven Socialist Republic. As such, assets will be deployed to help neutralize the situation. Any attack on these assets will be considered an act of war, and will be dealt with as such."

"I urge Hogsweat and the NHSR to withdraw from Shen Zhou before any lives are lost"

--Princess Season Amastacia, Governess of the Principalities of Forodren Annon and Forodren Cormandor

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Meanwhile, the 1st Inverse Battlefleet, lead by the flagship SBB-01 PNS Lina Inverse, moved out of A Baoa Qu at Side 3, followed by the first four Starburst Battlefleets. Moving in formation, the five fleets moved around Luna, on their way to Haven orbital space.

At the same time, a number of submarines left the naval base at the city of Gehenna, Forodren Annon, traveling south to round the continent en route to Shen Zhou.
Edolia
12-02-2005, 00:18
"The Scarlet Empire heartily condemns this latest attack. It is both unprovoked and shall do nothing but hurt the people of Shenzhou. We are therefore opening our borders to all refugees from Shenzhou. The Edolian territory of Axackal shall be left open for transit to the mainland. We hope that all other governments nearby will assist us in our work. Edolian specialist in refugee evacuation procedure are en route to Shenzhou."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Zepplin Manufacturers
12-02-2005, 00:24
Heading towards Earth and Shen Zhou the ZMI task force sent to assist in that areas capture began burns to change course back to Megacity three.
The Island States
12-02-2005, 03:33
An armed mob has stormed the Office of the President of New Haven, a plebiscite on whether or not to withdraw from the USR is underway:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8175973
Kroblexskij
12-02-2005, 11:44
OOC Just for conformation , who is being attacked here, i've heard Tiburon Edolia and Shen Zhou mentioned but im very confused.
Bryn Shander
12-02-2005, 16:34
OOC Just for conformation , who is being attacked here, i've heard Tiburon Edolia and Shen Zhou mentioned but im very confused.

((Tiburon is occupying Shen Zhou until it's owner, one of his allies, returns. Hogsweat and everyone else is attacking Tiburon's forces in an attempt to cease the land.))
Edolia
12-02-2005, 17:58
<<OOC: Err... Bryn... Edolia is remaining neutral but condeming the Hogsweatian attacks. Just so he doesn't get the wrong idea from that last post...>>
Kroblexskij
12-02-2005, 20:03
OOC: Ok , im neutrall, but that operation overcast may give you ideas.

Somewhere in the North Slope Borough

Comrade, theres something here.

The Captain walked over to the ageing screen, five large barely visable green dots were making there way towards the region of haven.

"It's about the size of a fleet of ships, however with this piece of shit, it could be anything."
Comrade Klandia hit the monitor. its fizzled and then gave up the ghost with a pathetic puff.

"whatever it is I suggest we get on the phone to Myoxa."

He trembled as the Captain walked over towards him, he knew the Captain wasn't one to push around as he had his infamous short temper.

The Captain Picked up a nearby reciver and spoke to the secretary for a short while.

"Позовите, пожалуйста Президент
Вскайский?"

"Извините, с кем я говорю?"

"это Сэнтэнэл."

"Да, пожалуйста."

"Пегедайте,
пожалуйста Шторм ухудшал но я купил зонтик. пожалуйста."
Translation: "Hello is President Vskayskij there?"

"Who's calling?"

"It's Sentinel."

"Yes he's here."

"Please tell them, The storm has worsened , but i bought an umbrella. Thank you."

he dropped the phone and calmly put his finger to a red button and pressed it, immeideatly a klaxon sounded and a map of the world flashed into life on the wall. It was interesting , as it labelled Kroblexskij and also the world, and certain spots on the map started flashing green or orange , or red.


The storm was worsening , it had become , Overcast.
Neo-Tiburon
13-02-2005, 04:34
OOC: Auman- no. Just no. There is no possible way you could have transported a "hidden" force from Mars to Haven two hours after the war began. One year, I could understand. Nine months sure. Two hours, no. So unless you prove that an Aumani force was in the Democratic Gulf, I'm going to ignore your Earth-based actions. On Mars, I will accept your buildup of forces- but since you never attacked, there's no reason for me to invade. So, so far, it's Hogsweat and the NHSR on that side and me, Freethinkers, Bryn, Omz, and Paul on mine.

That goes for everyone else outside of Haven, whether on my side or Hoggie's- I will not accept anything that has not been transported. The wanking should really only extend to Hoggie's numberwanking and NHSR and my tech wanking. As well as any other Havenic or transported forces. Yes. I will get anal about this. I'm not picky about many things, but this is my thing.

IC: 0400 AM, West Haven Time (WHT), February 10, NCE 203
90 miles inside the central area of the Chukranian-Shen-Zhou border, on the Shen-Zhou side

The Tiburonese forces had finally managed to halt the initial Hogsweatian assault. They were surprised- certainly not alarmed, but definately surprised. That a third-rate nation could mobilize, coordinate, and attack they way they had done. But the Tiburonese initial counteroffensive had stopped them. With major supplies being shipped in from the Former Alliance State, Tiburonese Mobile Suits and Mobile Dolls, along with their supporting craft, were finally ready to begin the devastating counterstrike. But first, the planes had to be stopped.

The Tiburonese First Coodinated Armed Forces Division had split up into three sections, each designed to handle a seperate task. And the former President, Nova Starfighter, was charged with leading the assault. The Hogsweatians had superior numbers, while the Tiburonese had superior technology. Sounded like an even match- except for the aces that he had up his sleeve- the Sweepers Organization and the Shen-Zhou Civil Defense Force. As well as the “minor” fact that over 90% of Shen-Zhouans supported Tiburon.

Climbing into the cockpit of his Wing Gundam Zero X2, he looked gravely at the map showing a stream of Hogsweatian Army and Air Force units doing battle with the new Virgo Cubed mobile dolls, neither side gaining an upper hand. He smiled, knowing that Tiburon could afford to lose any number of unmanned Mobile Dolls, while Hogsweat could not simply absorb its losses.

He then turned his attention to the 40 bombers and 400 strategic escorts filling the sky- the ones not being engaged with the Mobile Dolls. It was time to take action.

"This is Nova, calling the Binyang Air Base. There's a large force of fighters headed here- we'll need to take them out.
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With their team of 170 F-3737 Horizon aerospace superiority fighters and 30 B-892 Vortex bombers converted into missile pods, the Double Zetas were confident that they would win. Tiburon had never lost a war.

Screaming into combat, the Horizons managed to devastate the enemy time after time, each enemy fighter and bomber tearing through the early morning sky like a burst of fireworks. Hit after hit was scored on Hogsweat- the Shen-Zhouans waking up tomorrow to find hundreds of scattered Hogsweatian aircraft parts would probably wonder what turned the first part of an invasion on their land into a massacre. If they weren't already awake.

By the end of the Battle of Binyang, two-thirds of enemy fighters had been shot down, the rest high-tailing back into "safe" territory. It wouldn't be safe for long.
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Meanwhile, in Choushongdang, the Mobile Dolls, as well as the various tank and infantry divisions comprising the Tiburonese First and Second Divisions were joined by a large force of Serpent and RGM-79N Mobile Suits, but the battle continued to rage on. In a scene reminiscent of the waves of forces that had continued to replenish themselves in North Korea when Tiburon was fighting alongside its fellow NATO members, each strike that cleared out hundreds of Hogsweatian forces was instantly replaced by two hundred. The Tiburonese forces were appalled- these people had no regard for their own forces! Were people really so beneath the massive grip of the state in this land? The battle, never ending, continued as dawn broke on the blood-stained Shen-Zhouan land- and would continue, even once the Gundams would join the battle
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There were three Armed Forces Joint Divisions in Haven. There always had been. And while the first and second had engaged the main Hogsweatian line, the side was extremely weak, since they had been used to fortify the center. It was time to strike. Col. Zechs had been given command of this force as well as the Sweepers and Shen-Zhouans, just as Treize had been given command of the First and Second Infantry Divisions. He signalled to the forces now lined up on the coast and the Caras Galadon border.

"All units, head out!"

At once, masses of tanks, Mobile Suits, and Mobile Dolls head out from Shen-Zhou. Operation Forest Storm- to circle and surround Hogsweatian forces- had begun.
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Official Statement from the United Republics of Tiburon
The United Republics of Tiburon is amazed at the blatant warmongering of Hogsweat, and notes that this incursion on Taiwanese soil shall give us no choice but to respond with a fury that civilizations have scarcely seen, and generations to come will respect. We urge Hogsweat to pull its forces out of Hogsweat or face immediate missile attacks and space force bombardments. We have pleaded with the Hogsweatian government time and time again for a peace between our nations, all of which has turned in vain. As Winston Churchill once said, "We shall go on till the end. We shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." The United Republics has never lost a war. We shall not make an exception out of Chukraine.

We at this time would like to note our great appreciation of the support that the nations of the Freethinkers, Omz222, Pauldustllah, and Foroden Annon have given us in our quest to maintain Shen-Zhouan independence, but ask the Freethinkers that military assistance be given. The assistance that these nations have given us in our time of stress shall not be forgotten.

We also once again ask Edolia to support us, as it wishes in its heart to do. Remember the Tiburonese soldiers fighting and dying to keep Axacal in democracy’s hands. Remember the alliance of the UnAPS and the Tiburonese-Edolian alliance. Please, remember.

We would also like to ask the New Haven Socialist Republic to end its escalation. Tiburon and Taiwan have no quarrel with the Island Staters.

OOC2: Hoggie- Excellent post. Only thing- bombers can't have cruise missiles.

OOC3: TIS- What good does that do? I'll simply fortify Former Alliance State space and use the Osaka Skyway to transport forces.

OOC4: Yes, I know it looks like I'm ripping Hoggie to shreds. I'm not. This is a large part of my Havenic fighting force, and the rest of the forces will take time to come. By which time, he could greatly strengthen his forces.

OOC5: Military pictures and stats to come later.
Ilek-Vaad
13-02-2005, 05:01
The Retaliatory Guard RASTER Satellite assigned to Haven caught everything happening in Shen-Zhou and relayed it to Tollan Fire Control in the Free Republic.

The new Supreme Repubican Commander, Adan Ring, took note of the opening conflict and assemble his advisors.

"Gentlemen, I have spoken with the Minister of Defence, right now we are neutral, but if this conflict expands we may need to act. I cannot forsee acting against Tiburon, what are the assessments of the forces arraying against them?"

Command General Baibars spoke up "Hogsweat is a negligible threat. In the conflict with Kriegorgrad, they even used bayonets and static tactics that were on the way out in the forties. The NHSR is a bigger threat, but manageable, with the constant schizophrenic changes in their philosophies , actions and political situations.............they would be easy to knock off balance, if we did it right."

There was laughter with the mention of 'bayonets' and Hogsweat's tactics.

Commander Ring nodded "That's what I was thinking."

Command General Itzcoatl chimed in " Hogsweat's Chukraine forces would cease to exist if we deployed three or four Retaliatory Guard Armies. Their Naval Forces are no match for the Naval Guard. They are no threat, and the NHSR is more of a political threat. We have assessed their space fleet, and their ships of the line are fierce but manageable with Project Thunderhead."

Commander Ring nodded "Let's all keep an eye on this. If we are asked by the MOD, I want to be able to move immediately."

With that headed back to their various commands.

OOC: I'd have to agree with Tiburon, I have a problem with forces showing up without having their deployment RP'ed, it's not fair to nations that took the time to deploy, and puts them at a disadvantage in being hit by forces that just instantly appear.
Tannelorn
13-02-2005, 07:24
ooc Tiburon, Vascilia has hyperspace jump and fold technology and has had it for some time. It takes approximately 4 seconds to travel from mars to earth by hyperspace jump and in fact the fold you may appear a day before if you get lucky.. lol you guys arent FTL? i mean my ships which are on the way use Hyper space jump, go in to hyperspace 15 seconds equates to 300 light years soooooooo yeah umm we could be anywhere in the sol system in minutes if we chose. That and Auman has allies and a base there ^.^
Auman
13-02-2005, 07:33
OOC:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344247

A very short and to the point post claiming an Aumanii presence around Earth. Secondly, Auman has been operating in the Sol system for a very long time and is very adept at sneaking around.

Anyway...The fact that you didn't know my warships have been operating out of Earth based ports for quite some time is your fault. Insteand copping this smug attitude and claiming what my ships can and cant do, you should've searched my threads for any possible deployments before calling bullshit. Tiburon, you have been a Martian nation longer than I have, but you seem to not pay much attention to whats going on there. There are webway portals, wormholes, tesseracts, stargates and all sorts of instant transportation devices in orbit of the red planet. Also, I've been wanking my own space fold drives for quite some time which boast being able to jump from Earth to Mars in the blink of an eye...if not sooner!

Now, since you've annoyed me...Im escalating the war. Prepare to have your Martian territory confiscated.
Omz222
13-02-2005, 08:41
OOC: I think that while you have obviously posted your movements in another thread, you simply did not actually inform the participants of this RP of that movement, as it would still be your responsibility as an attacker to clarify this beforehand before the actual attack happens. Although the defender should know their things too, simply it is still the attacker's to actually announce the movements in a manner that is actually relevant to this RP, even if you have posted it beforehand in a non-relevant manner.

I'm not saying that this is a necessarity, but I have to side with Tiburon in regards to this manner. It wasn't enritely his responsibility to research all about you and search all of your posts before all this (and Hogsweat didn't announce the list of all of the spacetech invaders beforehand anyways), and that as a start in the RP you should have probably at least showed your movement before you attacked anyways, instead of just surprising everyone with a post stating that you are already attacking when they still do not even know that you are going to participate, and most important of all, you already moved into the positions to attack.

Perhaps next time we could all together make our movements and preparations more obvious in a relevant manner so that there would perhaps be less confusions like this. This is just my viewpoints, but my apologies if this seems harsh.
Auman
13-02-2005, 08:46
OOC:

I'll avoid anymore OOC posts in the future...I just assumed Tiburon, being a Martian nation, would know these things seeing as there is a forum that he should've been checking at least semi-regularly.

Also, I could've launched the attack from Earth, the moon...Mars...Alpha Centauri. It doesn't matter to be honest. If Tiburon cant come up with a decent defence then Its really out of my hands at that point. He can counter with a spaceborne offensive on me and NHSR, he can fire on my nation from his Martian colony, he can do all sorts of things at this point.

I suppose at this point I assume less of Havenites.
Omz222
13-02-2005, 08:47
OOC:

I'll avoid anymore OOC posts in the future...I just assumed Tiburon, being a Martian nation, would know these things.
OOC: Hmm... OOC thread, anyone? If this is a mix MT/FT RP I'd probably be participating sometimes in the future, so I think that it would also be wise to start an OOC thread.

EDIT: If anyone wants it, the OOC thread is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397310). Enjoy, and hopefully my last OOC here.
Hogsweat
13-02-2005, 10:18
OOC: You do know that you just called my losses, right? You said that "By the end of the Battle of Binyang, two-thirds of enemy fighters had been shot down, the rest high-tailing back into "safe" territory. It wouldn't be safe for long."
These are trained pilots. They aren't human wave "How do i shoot" Sorta guys. They know what they are doing. I doubt they'd let enemy planes sneak up on them. Oh, and the B-52 - http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/b52/specs.html
ACM's, ALCM's, CALC's, - all cruise missiles. I'll let the ground stuff pass for now. Let's rewind to when your planes come in range, eh? Just because i'm Communist doesn't mean I can't have a trained army. And that's exactly what it is. ww

IC:
"Roger Wilco Kilo Six One, no bogey's sighted currently, over"

"Affirmative Kilo Six Two, over"

"Kilo Six Three reporting, no bogeys in the sky, over"

"Kilo six four is reporting enemy action, repeat, enemy action on latitude 14 longitude 93 (just making that up, sounds cool ^_^)

"Affirmative Kilo Six Four, breaking to engage, repeat, brreaking to engage. Assistance needed, over"

"Juliet Five One, flight moving to assist."

The two flights, eight planes, reported the situation and broke to engage what they thought was a single enemy fighter or a patrol - meeting instead a large amount of Tiburonese air power.

"Kilo Six One to all units, enemy mass reported, break to engage, repeat break to ~~~"

Kilo Six Two gasped in horror as Kilo Six One and Three were ripped apart by missile fire, spinning to the side and up while his other remaining wingmate was slow to respond but finally did, side and down, instinct kicking in and their training taking over.

Juliet flight called in the rest of Juliet squadron, Romeo Squadron screaming behind it, as around two hundred extra aircraft took positions on the top half and the lower half of the Tiburonese aircraft, engaging a huge dogfight - in fact, the hugest in Hogsweatian history.

[RAWR and you thought 400 was alot]

The carrier's decks grinded against the wheels of the airplane, the noise making sailors running to cover as the second wave, around two hundred aircraft set off from the carriers simultaeonously - surely picked up on Tiburonese radar but at this point it hardly mattered at this point. the Tiburonese had proved themselves strong fighters but they would be no match for the Union.

The bombers broke off and the rest of the fighters kept them escorted as the bombers went after the first spotted Tiburonese military point.

On the Ground
"Romeo Eighteen Four reporting enemy action, repeat, reporting enemy action. We are ~ SMASH ~ taking hits and retaliating." a third of the tanks at the very front of the line broke off to the left, and another third to the right - the main group at the front was reinforced with trucks and APC's with anti armour bearing soldiers inside.

Meanwhile the convoy had come to a halt but that was not going to let the Hogsweatians stop their combat advance - each flank pulled off, round the side of the convoy in a large sweep to combat whatever the Tiburonese advance. To fill the gap, a number of reservists backed by armour and helicopters behind the main advance.

OOC - i'll post wankery on the OHS forums.
Hallad
13-02-2005, 16:12
Once again old connections in Hallad were aiding the Soviet Union of Hogsweat. In diplomatic talks the Soviet Union had convinced the Worker's State to send men to aid in the Liberation of Sehn Zhou. The True Directorate had finally settled on moving the 1st Republican Guard Division to fight in Shen Zhou.

The three brigades in the Hogsweatian outpost above Kriegorgrad would board their Deliverance class transports, and rondevous with the fleet which escorted them to here, would esort them to the Chukraine. The rest of the units would be taken by a myriad of aircraft to the Chukraine, which would refuel over Jondera with the help of Hogsweatian aircraft.

The aircraft would arrive within 10 hours, but the 1,500 men with the fleet would not arrive for three days. Luckily the majority of the ten thousand Guardsmen would arrive.
Neo-Tiburon
13-02-2005, 17:10
This is my post on the Mars forums, which, unlike Auman has mentioned, I check. Every day. This should sum up everything.

>>>Some land I was holding for another nation was attacked recently, and Auman, for no reason, decided to join in. When I asked him how his ships got to Earth 2 hours after the war started, and considering that he never mentioned he had wormholes or the like, he <> said he's going to invade Tiburon Mars.

It's all here:

Oh, and see on page 2, post number 27? Where it says "An example of OOC reasoning affecting an IC decision"? Thanks to the wonder that is IRC and the wonder that is Logged, here's a full account of the reasoning.

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OOC: for what's it worth: IRC tonight. I've bolded what I thought what is relevent.

Marduk: Some Haven Jack ass told me I cant bomb Tiburon because it takes more than a year to get to Earth from Mars...
Marduk: Fucking jack asses
GregorydelosSantos points and laughs at Marduk
Gregorydel: Which one?
Gregorydel: Haven has plenty of jackasses
Marduk: Im checking now, my brother just told me this
TRD: El: Free the humans!
El_Sentiel: yea greg a few monkeys decided they didn't like the current patriarchary and have taken a meddium sized industrial city in valley
TRD flies out to El Sentiel and frees the humans
Treznor: If you're operating on modern technology, then it requires the two planets to be positioned correctly for your craft to intercept. Then it takes a couple of months to arrive.
El_Sentiel: hey hey most of them like the patrairch, or the crime organizations in teh belt profit from his rule by selling amrs to the silly rebeling monkeys
Marduk: I have Spacefold technology.
Treznor: Otherwise you have to chase it, and that can take a while. If you can spare the fuel, you can do it faster.
Marduk: After all, technology is only a plot device
El_Sentiel: and it's shiney
Treznor can't argue. He uses wormholes to cross the length and breadth of the universe.
Gregorydel: And wanky depending on who uses it
Marduk: Its Tiburon, that guy uses Gundams. Ive had a base on Mars for quite some time now.
El_Sentiel hmm trez I think your the only person I know who could reach me instantously (one month FTL travel time FTW)
El_Sentiel ponders why he said it in / me
Marduk: Base on Earth*
Treznor can't reach anywhere instantaneously. It takes him hours to travel a few light-years.
El_Sentiel: oh well then.. phew
Marduk: Earth to Mars is a short distance in terms of NS
El_Sentiel: extreme distances FTW
Treznor: In that regard, it's far inferior to the tesseract engines the Triumvirate use.
Treznor: Getting to my colony via my wormhole method takes six months. But, as I say, it's in a far corner of the Universe.
Treznor: It's also a very unpleasant trip for organics.
El_Sentiel: must be a logistical nightmare if the supply transports don't make it
Treznor: It's a fully terran-style world. Supply ship aren't necessary, beyond skilled labour and technical parts.
Marduk: Fucking jack ass just got his Martian territories confiscated...anyway, Im back to spending some quality time with the wife.
Gregorydel: Marduk, who?
Marduk: Tiburon
Gregorydel: Ah
El_Sentiel: ah so you don't us the colony for a mining world, instead as a just incase colony should anything go wrong?
Gregorydel: Should Treznor need to FLEE! the Solar System to plot his vengence on all of the Sol system?
Treznor: Ultimately, yes. It's meant as a full colony, a means of easing overpopulation pressures and exploiting new territories.
Treznor: And should something...catastrophic happen to the Empire on Earth, a place to retreat to.
El_Sentiel IS finally finished his post!
El_Sentiel: usually a good thing to have no matter what, I should porbably get one of those at some point soon
Gregorydel: I need to eventually get out of the solar system for that exact same purpose. Maybe I'll use some of the money I got to build a sleeper ship in March and send it off in April
Gregorydel: To land in June
El_Sentiel 's new record for most words for a post is 1,060 *pant*
TRD: Free the humans!
Gregorydel: But not a terran like world..those things are rare and hard to come by..maybe a nasty humid jungle planet
El_Sentiel: no don't there good labour and taste excellent with a little soy sauce
Treznor had his people searching for close to a decade, following up hundreds and thousands of leads from probes around the universe before he finally found one.
TRD: Redcaps might find Kzinti delicious
El_Sentiel: redcaps?
TRD: Treznor: How much real time did you spend on that decade?
Treznor: Mmm...about six months, I think.
TRD: El: People that eat anything
Treznor: Maybe a little less. Months, anyway.
TRD nods
El_Sentiel: probably but good luck getting a kzinti to just lay down in the giant cooking pot and let himself be eaten
Treznor lost more than a few exploration ships and crews in the process.
GregorydelosSantos ponders if he can use the same design for the passenger liner as an exploration ship.
Gregorydel: Instead of deck one being a garden it would be hydroponics
GregorydelosSantos decides to stick with the idea of an automated sleeper ship
Marduk: "Thats impossible! You cant get to the Earth in 2 days"
Marduk: This is Futuretech here as far as I remember
Lt_LT_Smas: Marduk, are you Auman?
Marduk: Who are you?
Marduk glares at LT Smash
Lt_LT_Smas: You are not logged in
Marduk: Yes, yes Iam
Marduk: I have 20,000 troops and a Naval base at Earth *rawrs*
Lt_LT_Smas: "Now, since you've annoyed me...Im escalating the war. Prepare to have your Martian territory confiscated." Way to use ooc to influence your ic role play.
Marduk: Yeah, I did didn't I
Marduk doesn't actually care
GregorydelosSantos wonders who smash is
Lt_LT_Smas: I just told you.
Gregorydel: Marduk..what do you plan on doing with the confiscated land?
Marduk: Chillin', Illin'
TRD: A Simpsons reference, isn't it?
GregorydelosSantos looks for where this person said it...
Gregorydel: Nope..I dont see it
Lt_LT_Smas: I was watching the Simpsons a while ago. I changed my nick.
Treznor: Tiburon.
Gregorydel: Ah okay
Gregorydel: Thank you Trez.
Gregorydel: Always so helpful.
Treznor: You're welcome.
*** Treznor has left channel #nationstates (I snub you, now.)
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Treznor growls at his keyboard.
Gregorydel: Hey Marduk what do you plan on doing with the Mars territory?
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TRD waves at Sakkra
*** Signoff: Dreadfire (Quit: Leaving)
Sakkra: Ahoy!
El_Sentiel: ahoy
Gregorydel: Hola
Sakkra: What news this evening?
TRD: I deployed my people.
Gregorydel: War on Mars
Sakkra: Surprising....heh heh.
TRD: They call it Mars for a reason
Sakkra: The reputation is certainly earned.
Gregorydel: The soil is red for two reasons
Mov|NWN: war on mars? NOES!
Pacitalia: Greg: It's a tropical laterite, so it's leached due to heavy rainfall?
Pacitalia: ;)
Sakkra: Anything about the Mars conflict i should be concerned about?
Gregorydel: Nope
Sakkra: Duly noted.
Gregorydel: MARDUK, what do you plan on doing with Tiburion lands?
Marduk: I dont know, why do you ask?
Marduk: I'll split it with you Greg
Gregorydel: I'm thinking letting someone new on Mars actually.
Mov|NWN pokes greg >_>
Gregorydel: What?
Gregorydel: Hmm..actually its a pretty big plot of land..
Mov|NWN: i'm not exactly new...sooo >_>
Gregorydel: Three way split wouldnt be out of the question
Mov|NWN: and the cost?
Mov|NWN: :P
Marduk: Hey Mov'...you want to be on Mars?
Marduk: For real?
Marduk: :P
Mov|NWN: yus!
Mov|NWN: :P
Marduk: I'll give it to good Ol' Movodor *scratches Mov behind the ears*
El_Sentiel: thats it mars is doomed..
Gregorydel: Heh
Mov|NWN purrs =^-^=
Marduk: Well, some of it...its a pretty good chunk of land
Gregorydel: Yea
Marduk will sell it bit by bit.
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GregorydelosSantos thinks it would be good as three big chunk sales instead of bit by bit
Gregorydel: Evening Iuthia
El_Sentiel needs to get some food brb
Chibi-Iuth: 'morning.
Chibi-Iuth: how are things developing in Zvarinograd?
Chibi-Iuth: I've been away for some time.
Sakkra: DOOOOOM!
Marduk: Well Im keeping a fair amount on the coast...to bridge the gap between my Northern base and Auman.
Chibi-Iuth: Why are you involved Marduk...?
Gregorydel: Iuthia, Mars.

Auman has edited his post with the header to say, "...And yes, this is a case of OOC reasoning affecting an IC decision!" Brilliant. Just brilliant.
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Auman, <>. Oh, and for what it's worth, I cut my losses and pulled out of Shen-Zhou.

<>.
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OOC2: Yes, I really am. I'm going to evacuate many Shen-Zhouans, though. That I'll post later.

OOC3: Oh, and sorry for posting your losses. ^_^; Didn't notice that... I suppose I just got caught up in the whole thing.
Edolia
13-02-2005, 17:51
"The Scarlet Empire will be happy to take as many Shenzhouren as wish to come to Edölia. We already have a quite substantial Chinese community, and they would find themselves quite at home in many of mostly-Chinese neighborhoods of Gërburg. We would like to offer the services of Axackali refugee specialists to the Tiburonese government as they begin to pull out of Shenzhou."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Hallad
13-02-2005, 17:53
OOC: Damn it! Sent my most important division for nothing...
Hogsweat
13-02-2005, 17:58
Soviet Spokesmen Welstrum Iwaladan made a statement covered by the Hogsweatian National Press regarding the removal of Shenzhouens from the area;
We will assist Tiburon and Edolia in thier efforts to remove Shenzhouens from the area. Any Shenzhouens that wish to leave have the full support of the Soviet Union and will receive compensation for their leavings from the Soviet Government. We are not barbaric. We do remind Shenzhouens, though, that the Soviet Government is willing to pay any Shenzhouens a Compensation Sum if they wish to stay which involves many excellent free options, including Soviet citizenship and a guarenteed job.

We are glad the war has ended so quickly with such loss of life.
Neo-Tiburon
13-02-2005, 18:44
OOC: As per the whole discussion in the OHS forums, we might still continue the war if we all ignore Auman. <>.

But if Feline, Hallad, Logged and I are the only ones who do so, we might continue with the retreat. If that happens, don't count the war over just yet. The Tiburonese government might speak their mind, but the Tiburonese and Shen-Zhouan people still have a land to liberate.

In either case, I wouldn't post my official response just yet.
Ilek-Vaad
13-02-2005, 19:28
OOC:

I'll avoid anymore OOC posts in the future...I just assumed Tiburon, being a Martian nation, would know these things seeing as there is a forum that he should've been checking at least semi-regularly.

Also, I could've launched the attack from Earth, the moon...Mars...Alpha Centauri. It doesn't matter to be honest. If Tiburon cant come up with a decent defence then Its really out of my hands at that point. He can counter with a spaceborne offensive on me and NHSR, he can fire on my nation from his Martian colony, he can do all sorts of things at this point.

I suppose at this point I assume less of Havenites.

OOC: I'm no expert, but when joining someone else's RP, you should try and respect their plot and what technology they are\aren't wiling to use.

If we're all jackasses in Haven, why do you want to RP with us?
Auman
13-02-2005, 23:20
OOC: I'm no expert, but when joining someone else's RP, you should try and respect their plot and what technology they are\aren't wiling to use.

If we're all jackasses in Haven, why do you want to RP with us?

OOC:

Im no expert Ilek Vaad, but I posted my reasoning for being able to deploy my forces. Ive been Role playing for quite some time...I have capability around Earth. Ive been warned about Haven and I'm not gonna deal with Tiburon being a complete douche.

Screw this, I have better things to do with my time than to deal with Tiburon. I never said I personally owned any of these warpgates...but that doesn't mean they aren't there. In short, screw you guys Im going home.
Neo-Tiburon
14-02-2005, 02:04
Well, this thread's ruined. Here's a new one. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8191173)