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::::Oliverry:::Hosting Bid For the Cherry Cup IX:::

Oliverry
06-02-2005, 19:27
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Where will the games be played?
The games will be played in 4 arenas throughout Oliverry. This will influence the results since playing high-level hockey on a little arena is not very nice for the players and on some rinks, the fans are very intimadating. Here are the arenas where the games will be played with a little history of it:

Marshalliston Stadium:
http://www.jatkoaika.com/albumit/sekalaiset/Heritage.jpg
- Location: Marshalliston, CA, Olivery
- Capacity: 100, 000 places
- Was designed for: Field games
- Built: Year -II of the Empire(2002)
- Home of(in the IHL/OHL):Nobody
- Principals things about the arena:
- The people is far from the ice

Pepsi Arena:
http://www.hawaii.edu/tours/arena/arena.entrance.jpeg
- Location: Marshalliston, CA, Olivery
- Capacity: 21, 332 places
- Was designed for: Ice Hockey
- Built: Year -101 of the empire(1903)
- Home of(in the IHA): Marshalliston Capitals
- Other facts: A big arena. We hear the fans that are screming in the higher balcony from the ice.

Francarena:
http://www.hawaii.edu/tours/arena/arena.dist.jpeg
- Location: Saint-Francois, FR, Oliverry
- Capacity: 17, 543
- Was designed for: Ice Hockey
- Built: Year -7 of the Empire(1997)
-Home of
-in the OHL: Saint-Francois Anges
-in the IHA: Saint-Francois Hockeyers
- Other facts: Very modern arena. Everyone loes to play in this one.

World Challenge arena:
http://www.billshonda.com/pics/91hatch/SCCA%20world%20arena%20(4).jpg
- Location: Perpignant, FR, Oliverry
- Capacity 11, 000 places
- was designed for: World Junior Championships, 1986(year -18 of the Empire)
- Built: Year -19 of the Empire(1985)
- Home of(in the OHL): Perpignant Français
- Other facts: Very little arena. Badly built.

How does this tournament will work?
In a 16 team tournament
There will be 2 conferences of 8 teams each. Those 2 conferences will be, of course, divided in 2 divisions. The teams would be facing once each other teams of his conference. After, the 8 teams will be put together in the same format than the NHL, which means that the 2 division winners will get the 2 firsts spot and the other teams would be placed in the right order starting by the 3rd position. The 4 firsts of each conference would advance to the playoff part of the tournament.

In a 20 team tournament
There will be 2 conferences of 10 teams each. Those 2 conferences will be, of course, divided in 2 divisions. The teams would be facing once each other teams of his conference. After, the 10 teams will be put together in the same format than the NHL, which means that the 2 division winners will get the 2 firsts spot and the other teams would be placed in the right order starting by the 3rd position. The 6 firsts of each conference would advance to the playoff part of the tournament.

Here is how would work the playoffs
All playoff series will be in Single game elimination format

In a 16 team tournament
Quarterfinals:
Game 1: Conference A 4th vs 1st
Game 2: Conference A 3rd vs 3nd
And same thing for the other conference.

Semifinals:
Game 1: Winner Game 1 Conf A vs Winner Game 2 Conf A
Game 2: Winner Game 1 Conf B vs Winner Game 2 Conf B

Final:
Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 2

For a 20 country tournament
1st round:
Game 1: 6th Conf A vs 3rd Conf A
Game 2: 5th Conf A vs 4th Conf A
Same thing for the other conference

Quarterfinals:
Game 1: Winner Game 1 vs 1st Conf A
Game 2: Winner Game 2 vs 2nd Conf A
Same thing for the other conference

Semifinals:
Game 1: Winner Game 1 Conf A vs Winner Game 2 Conf A
Game 2: Winner Game 1 Conf B vs Winner Game 2 Conf B

Final:
Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 2


In-game things:

How the games will be scorinated?
I still have the scorinator I used for the Champions' cup so it will be easy to scorinate. The rankings will be those of the last Cherry Cup.There will be a little RP bonus that will only take into account the quality of the RP and not the numbers of RP so RP well. A thing though: The bad use of language will not be penalized so if those who aren't coming from English places make mistakes,it doesn't matter. These RP will be notated from 1 to 5: 1 being very bad and 5 exceptional and we will only take into account your last one.

How will the games work?
3 periods of 20 minutes, followed by a 5 minute OT then, if always draw, a shootout. The winner of the shootout will win the point that is missing for the win. Example: The game is 2-2 after the OT. The shootout winner will win the game 3-2. There will be 2 points awarded for a win, 1 for an OT loss and 0 for a regulation loss.

Events that Oliverry has already hosted:
Hockey Groover Champions' Cup 1(Ice Hockey)
NS Bowl I(American Football)
Fimble loving peoples
06-02-2005, 20:18
I understand how rhe main competition works, but the preliminaries are a little confusing.
Vilita
06-02-2005, 20:34
And your format calls for every single game to got to shootouts if it is a draw. Not Extra-Overtime, not ending in a draw. Just 5 minutes of play and then a penalty shootout. Why will you have no draws in non-knockout play?
Oliverry
06-02-2005, 20:42
Because I think it may be more interesting like that, even more intense.
Vilita
06-02-2005, 20:45
Because I think it may be more interesting like that, even more intense.

We know someone wants Iansisle's vote:)
Oliverry
06-02-2005, 20:47
No, I really think about that. When I play EA NHL series, I play with a 20 minute OT followed by a shootout(I know it's off-topic but it's just to say that I really think it). Wasn't AHL doing this this year?
Vilita
06-02-2005, 20:55
No, I really think about that. When I play EA NHL series, I play with a 20 minute OT followed by a shootout(I know it's off-topic but it's just to say that I really think it). Wasn't AHL doing this this year?

So why does your bid call for just 5 minutes of overtime?
Oliverry
06-02-2005, 20:58
Because I think it's impossible to do it in NHL 200x. And anyway, 5:00 at 5 vs 5 is enough for many teams to win
Starblaydia
06-02-2005, 21:15
Because I think it's impossible to do it in NHL 200x. And anyway, 5:00 at 5 vs 5 is enough for many teams to win

You're going to be simming this in a computer game? Grrrrreat :eek:
Oliverry
06-02-2005, 21:19
No, I have my scorinator ready(If you want a proof, I can send it to you, it's the one I used for the Champions' cup)
Starblaydia
06-02-2005, 21:29
3 periods of 20 minutes, followed by a 5 minute OT then, if always draw, a shootout.

What does 'if always a draw' mean, btw?
Oliverry
06-02-2005, 21:46
It means that if the score is always tie, there is a shootout period. This is just to help people in their RP.
Iansisle
07-02-2005, 05:38
This bid looks pretty solid, and I do like that it is more informal that certain opposing bids.

However, I'm afraid that these three game series are really a maker-or-breaker. Is there any way you might consider a single elimination tournament?
Oliverry
07-02-2005, 06:41
I even have a beter idea: Double-elimination tournament. Let me explain:

1st round:

Game A: Team A vs Team B
Game B: Team C vs Team D
Game C: Team D vs Team E
Game D: Team F vs Team G

After, we divide this in 2 branches: the loser branch and the winner branch

2nd round
Winning Branch:

Game E: Winner Game A vs Winner Game B
Game F: Winner Game C vs Winner Game D

Losing branch:

Game G: Loser Game A vs Loser Game B
Game H: Loser Game C vs Loser Game D

3rd round:
Winning Branch:
Game I: Winner Game E vs Winner Game F

Losing Branch:
Game J: Winner Game G vs Loser Game E
Game K: Winner Game H vs Loser Game F

4th round:
Losing branch:
Game L: Winner Game J vs Winner Game K

5th round:
Losing Branch:
Game M: Winner Game L vs Loser Game I

6th Round:
Final:
Game N: Winner Game I vs Winner Game M

Each serie would be "Best-of-1" series. For the 20 team tournament, it will mostly be the same except that I add a wildcard to decide who will be the qualifyers to make the playoffs(and the Wildcard would really be a wildcard, since the double-elimination doesn't apply to it)
Iansisle
07-02-2005, 06:54
So, if I understand this correctly, the winner of the winning branch would play the winner of the losing branch in the final, correct?

It all seems rather complex for the Cherry Cup - we should be concentrating on keeping things simple and accessable. I am not adverse to having a 'losers cup' for those eliminated in the first round of play, but I think it would be better for them to play out as seperate single eliminations, rather than the rather complicated system proposed above. It simply makes it easier for teams to see what they have to do to win.
Oliverry
07-02-2005, 07:13
I think you're right: we'll stick to the original plan except that we will use a single game elimination instead of a Best-of-3
Iansisle
07-02-2005, 07:19
Well, that's sold me. :)

I officially give my endorsement to Oliverry's bid, for whatever that's worth.
Liverpool England
07-02-2005, 11:11
Liverpool England would like to acknowledge this bid, and wish the Oliverrians the best of luck in winning the hosting rights. No comment will be made on support, although right now I am leaning ever-so-slightly towards your bid because of comments Vilita has made. And, yes, I have a vote. So there.