NationStates Jolt Archive

You know the drill. Ice hockey. Speed, finesse, and bodychecks.

Sign up. Say if you want to host.

Starblaydia will, of course, sign up their Rayzors for number nine. Whether its Dwarves or Humans, we don't know yet. Rumours that they're trying to create an even-faster game on ice using rocket-powered skates may be exaggerated.

speediest sign-up on ice: starblaydia!

i'm in too of course.

Pow! The Iansisle Gulls can't wait to throw their body checks around!

Of course, that will have to wait until we repeat as champions in CCVIII. :P

Vilita signs up and bids to host

FLP signs up. But no bid to host.

OOC: The world of scorinating still confuddles me.

We're in, and officially back Vilita's bid.

Hockey Canada's back for another shot. Only this time we're going far!


GO HOCKEY CANADA GO!!!



(BTW, fully backing up Vilita's bid to host.)

Squornshelous signs up again with their team of chimpanzees.

Hey! chimps might be bred to kick rectum this time around!

We sign up for the 3rd time and are backing Vilita's bid

The Robotopolis Synthos offically throw their collective hats into the ring and enter the tournament.

Piquantrax wishes to join

Ok people, you know the drill... State your roster, lines, numbers, captains, assistant captains and whatever you feel like. Thanks!

Hockey Canada's Roster for Cherry Cup IX:

Line 1:

RW 36- Mike Baruzzio
C 93- Kyle Thomas (Captain)
LW 3- Scott Hannan

Line 2:

RW 23- Greg Bossy
C 12- Pete Cugno (Assistant Captain)
LW 8- Trent LeClair

Line 3:

RW 18- Earl Grey
C 45- Tyler Kosumovic
LW 5- Justin Reinder

Line 4:

RW 68- Ben Martin
C 4- Damien Morris
LW- Jarret Moreau

Defence:

D 20- Blake Metziton
D 22- Darren Ilston
D 43- Jamie Gerhardt
D 49- Mike Johnson
D 69- Spencer Blake (Assistant Captain)
D 73- Red Green

Goalies:

G 00- Marcus Cousineau-Marchentz (to be held in minors)
G 33- Maurice Roy (backup)
G 63- Damien Sweetnam (starter)



Coach: Gary Quinn
Assistant Coach: Doug Crawford
Assistant Coach: Mark Kropft
Assistant Coach: Yanic Perrault
Trainer: Doug Brown
Manager: Jéan Poutinè

There you have it folks, the roster for Hockey Canada. We're back to win it all!!!!!!

Well of course.

Folks, please don't post your rosters here... this is the signup, not the roleplay.

And, as we all know, the world will come to an end if someone posts a roster in the signup thread.

Count me in.

We sign up again

Sjwitz is in.

Hockey Canada, let it be known, If I host a cup, there will be little tolerance for stupidity. Thanks :)

In that case, I can't say that I support Vilita hosting a Cup. One of the attractions of the Cherry Cup - in my opinion - is that it is so much less formal than the World Cup. If we start being snotty about what goes in which thread or degrading people for making mistakes, we'll be losing a lot of what makes the CC different. I can't speak for everyone, naturally, but I assume that the community at large doesn't want the Cherry Cup to just be the World Cup on ice, with all its formalities and lost friendships and whining and spreadsheets nine miles long just to calculate a rank.

In other words, lay off HC. He made an innocent mistake: there's no reason to jump down his neck and CERTAINLY no reason to imply that he is stupid. There should be at least one sporting event on NS that doesn't do its best to intimidate newbies and laymen.

In that case, I can't say that I support Vilita hosting a Cup. One of the attractions of the Cherry Cup - in my opinion - is that it is so much less formal than the World Cup. If we start being snotty about what goes in which thread or degrading people for making mistakes, we'll be losing a lot of what makes the CC different. I can't speak for everyone, naturally, but I assume that the community at large doesn't want the Cherry Cup to just be the World Cup on ice, with all its formalities and lost friendships and whining and spreadsheets nine miles long just to calculate a rank.

In other words, lay off HC. He made an innocent mistake: there's no reason to jump down his neck and CERTAINLY no reason to imply that he is stupid. There should be at least one sporting event on NS that doesn't do its best to intimidate newbies and laymen.

Trust me, If i hosted a hockey cup i would do it right. No one had done it right since i've started playing it. They've (you included) turned it into a football-esque tournament, regardless. The only one I'm saying is stupid is LE. I'm just informing Hockey Canada it is not right to tell others to do things such as post rosters in a thread that they shouldnt be telling people to post rosters in. And asking them not to do such a thing in the future :)

Trust me: saying that "stupidity won't be tolerated" doesn't exactly make confident in your ability to run a fun, all-inclusive tournament, which is what I feel that the Cherry Cup must be, nor does post scripting every post with a smilie face.

You have a way of turning a phrase to make yourself sound like a real snob. You ought to be more careful in addressing statements; like Liverpool England, you're no one to be dictating rules.

Now pray tell: what are your great plans to make the Cherry Cup a "more" hockey tournament?

Trust me: saying that "stupidity won't be tolerated" doesn't exactly make confident in your ability to run a fun, all-inclusive tournament, which is what I feel that the Cherry Cup must be, nor does post scripting every post with a smilie face.

You have a way of turning a phrase to make yourself sound like a real snob. You ought to be more careful in addressing statements; like Liverpool England, you're no one to be dictating rules.

Now pray tell: what are your great plans to make the Cherry Cup a "more" hockey tournament?

Yes, i admit, when certain people get involved, my words can be turned into a way that even a compliment can sound as if i am throwing a brick through your window.

It is actually my hope that the cherry cup will become one of the premier tournaments in NS, as i feel it is losing it's luster with what, 5 of the top 10 ranks not even participating this cup?


As for the more 'hockey' cup, it depends on the number of signups. But whatever happened to the "best of" series?

Hockey is a sport where any team can beat any other team on any given day. The joy of the best of 7 series is that, in the end, the best team will shine through.

When Liverpool England hosted the cherry cup, he apparently had no knowledge whatsoever of hockey, as he was posting tables granting 3 points for a win. And what about Overtime? I think you have been a GREAT host for this past cherry cup. No lies. I've really, really, really enjoyed your hosting. It's been relaxed and i've even enjoyed the fact that the scores arent posted at the same time every day, it's nice not knowing, not having "deadlines" and junk like that, but one of the joys of hockey is overtime. And i don't remember a single overtime game in the first round, correct me if i'm wrong. Obviously we can RP it ourselves, but its just little things like that that the cup is missing. Same thing in the second round, I'm not trying to say that you are a bad host at all, Because you are a GREAT HOST. I can not stress this enough, I just think that a "shootout" kind of loses the luster of a hockey tournament. The nitty gritty of hockey is playing until somebody loses in the playoffs, i think shootouts should stay in football/soccer. If you don't mind me asking, what scorinator are you using?

Hey guess what, we are playing each other in the second round of the world cup :)

Not just to be contrarian, but I think you’re wrong. The Cherry Cup isn’t fading: it’s coming back strongly. We hit a real trough a few months back, but an excellent hosting job by Squornshelous and a fun tournament by Liverpool England, as well as the numerous rookies who have participated in my tournament, helped pull us back from the brink.

I consider it a blessing myself that so many rookie teams were competitive and qualified. Frozcheva, Fimble Loving People, Brazillico, Hockey Canada, and Nouveau Richelieu are, I think, people who will sign up for a second Cherry Cup. Had they lost every game, they might have lost interest and wandered off. As it is, we’ve injected some new blood into the tournament while Squornshelous and Lovisa were the only veterans who really weren’t competitive at all - everyone else had a good chance at winning.

Also, I have to disagree that shootouts are ‘boring’ or ‘un-hockeylike’. Now, understand: I am a hockey fan, but I have never been to a single NHL game nor have I watched a complete NHL game on television. My team is the San Diego Gulls (sandiegogulls.com), a team who used to play in the West Coast Hockey League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Hockey_League) (WCHL) and now play in the East Coast Hockey League (ECHL) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_Hockey_League). I haven’t been to a ECHL game yet because of school, but I do remember going to old WCHL games. In the playoffs, they played three periods; if there wasn’t a winner, they played a fourth. If there still wasn’t a winner, they had a shootout.

As for overtime games in the tournament, I do wonder how no fewer than 35 games ended in draws without ever playing overtime? During qualifications, every team plays three periods, then a fourth if no one wins. Thereafter, much like "real" hockey, it's a draw.

And let me tell you: there is nothing more exciting than a hockey shootout. Each team gets six attempts with six players of their choosing to score on the goalie. It’s fast, it’s intense, and it has the crowd on their feet screaming. In short, it’s hockey. In the meantime, I switched off that seven million period long Flyers-Penguins game in boredom. I mean, baseball is my favorite sport, so I certainly don’t mind a gruelingly long season or 16-inning games, but I think that the excitement of a WCHL tournament translates much better to NationStates.

Consider the difference between Gran Turismo and Mario Kart: sure, GT is fun and very realistic, but it doesn’t have the same wide-demographic appeal that a much simpler and less realistic game like Mario Kart does.

Lastly, I will say that - as someone who has participated in EVERY Cherry Cup since the first one - a “more realistic” Cherry Cup has been tried. However, I am no longer allowed to talk about it. Let me just conclude by saying that it is better to let sleeping dogs lie, don’t rock the boat, and whatever other cliché you’d like.

CCVIII used a scorinator developed for the Cherry Cup by The Belmore Family and recommended to me by Starblaydia. I think it allows veterans to win more consistently - just look at KN! - while also allowing rookies to “have their day” every now and then or, with a bunch of luck, even make / win in the tournament.

And that second round match ought to be fun. :)

Also, I have to disagree that shootouts are ‘boring’ or ‘un-hockeylike’. Now, understand: I am a hockey fan, but I have never been to a single NHL game nor have I watched a complete NHL game on television. My team is the San Diego Gulls (sandiegogulls.com), a team who used to play in the West Coast Hockey League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Hockey_League) (WCHL) and now play in the East Coast Hockey League (ECHL) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_Hockey_League). I haven’t been to a ECHL game yet because of school, but I do remember going to old WCHL games. In the playoffs, they played three periods; if there wasn’t a winner, they played a fourth. If there still wasn’t a winner, they had a shootout.

Alright, explains why you did it, but thats because its amateur hockey, bottom line:)

And let me tell you: there is nothing more exciting than a hockey shootout. Each team gets six attempts with six players of their choosing to score on the goalie. It’s fast, it’s intense, and it has the crowd on their feet screaming. In short, it’s hockey. In the meantime, I switched off that seven million period long Flyers-Penguins game in boredom. I mean, baseball is my favorite sport, so I certainly don’t mind a gruelingly long season or 16-inning games, but I think that the excitement of a WCHL tournament translates much better to NationStates.

Exciting, Yes, but It's not hockey.



CCVIII used a scorinator developed for the Cherry Cup by The Belmore Family and recommended to me by Starblaydia. I think it allows veterans to win more consistently - just look at KN! - while also allowing rookies to “have their day” every now and then or, with a bunch of luck, even make / win in the tournament.


Great, another TBF scorinator:P

Alright, explains why you did it, but thats because its amateur hockey, bottom line:)

You are in the habit of saying the most obnoxious and insulting things and thinking that everything will be jolly because you've put a smile at the end. The Gulls are NOT an amatuer hockey team, nor is any other team in the ECHL or the other minor leagues - saying so to my face would have earned you a well-deserved punch no matter how much you grinned. That is an important distinction.

Furthermore, I think we ought to establish that the "amatuers" are doing one hell of a lot more playing than ANY "pro" team.

Exciting, Yes, but It's not hockey.

It's not your hockey. You also dictated that the seven-game series was "part of REAL hockey", but the World Cup of Hockey (http://wch2004.com/standings/index.html) would seem to disagree with you there. For me and other Gulls fans, the shootout is an integral and fun part of hockey.

We sign up for our first ever Cherry Cup. We also back Vilita's bid, for however little it's worth. :)

Furthermore, I think we ought to establish that the "amatuers" are doing one hell of a lot more playing than ANY "pro" team.



It's not your hockey. You also dictated that the seven-game series was "part of REAL hockey", but the World Cup of Hockey (http://wch2004.com/standings/index.html) would seem to disagree with you there. For me and other Gulls fans, the shootout is an integral and fun part of hockey.


Fair enough :) Well then, just so you know what you're getting into if I am host. There will be no shootouts, and there will be overtimes :) end of story!

That's fine. However, I pray that my main concern (that there will not be seven game series or 100 game qualifiers) will be addressed - we've already proven that doesn't work. I also hope that the Cup continues to be friendly towards new players, which is its main strength.

I'm afraid that that does not assuage my fears in the least. I hereby refuse to support a Vilitan bid for host and will actively support anyone bidding on a traditional Cherry Cup platform.

I'm afraid that that does not assuage my fears in the least. I hereby refuse to support a Vilitan bid for host and will actively support anyone bidding on a traditional Cherry Cup platform.


"Traditional"?

3 cups ago there was a 7 game playoff

When LE ran it he thought it was a soccer tournament. The scores were low and the points were way off.

Unfortunately when squorn ran it he was never around do to the storm, and the same with you, although you've been a great host.


So what is this "Traditional" you speak of? The only thing traditional about the cherry cup is that it has not run as smoothly as it should :)

Great, now there will never be a draw. We're going to have shootouts in every game.
not necessarily, tif you check tanley cup finals, how many games were there in OT? Anyway, the winner of the shootout just win 1 point in the game(ex: It's 2-2 after the OT, the winner of the shootout wins the game 3-2)

not necessarily, tif you check tanley cup finals, how many games were there in OT? Anyway, the winner of the shootout just win 1 point in the game(ex: It's 2-2 after the OT, the winner of the shootout wins the game 3-2)


If you are talking about putting a shootout in the tournament and compare the stanley cup finals, then you have Never watched the stanley cup finals. sorry.

I have already watched some. And it's just because I didn't complete my explanation. In the last game of the Stanley cup final, the most of the serie-winning goals were in 2nd period and not in OT. I was just comparing how the OT games weren't so frequent in the Stanley cup final. And, anyway,I forgot to write that, the playoffs will be in a Best-of-3 format

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-The Vilitan Bid to Host the 9th Cherry Cup -
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(http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=395437)


Questions and comments can be placed in that thread so as to not unfairly take up the room from the signup thread.

Thank You. And, Iansisle, please look it over with a clear mind :)

Wow. This is a cup with debate, now? Guess that means we're back in. Sign up the Street.

If the Vilita scorinator's the same one being used in the AO Hockey Championships then I'm all for it. It's not often I get into the top four for anything at the moment. But once again, my opinion means nothing. :)

Let me say: I like the Cherry Cup because it's lose and casual, there are very few people shouting at each other and arguing about "realism" and lecturing each other. It's relaxed, and funny, and exaggerated, in the best traditions of NationStates -- a nice light-hearted bit of fluff by a brilliant and funny fellow with a book to promote and a bit of time on his hands. I dropped out of the World Cup some time back because it was too much bickering and unfriendliness towards new participants and layer upon layer of new rules and new levels of complexity and demands for constant posts. I'd far prefer a badly-run Cherry Cup to anything that reached that level of elaborateness.

Casual fun ahead of "scorinator" debates, that was the original philosophy that KN had when he started this thing up, and that's what i think this Cup should continue to be. I don't want it to be an attempt to be just like the World Cup, i want it to be the one with the goofy polls and the inexplicable success of teams from tropical countries and the random songs about the evil Bettman. The World Cup is a marvel of realistic simming and a remarkable achievement in collective role-play, but this is something different and lighter and airier. No need to try to make it the same: diversity is a good thing too.

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I miss the nhl :(


come back!

I miss the nhl :(


come back!
Idem for me. Anyway


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Please make all the comments about this bid on the bid thread.
Thanks to everyone!

The Crystilakere Crystils will try to extend their ao hockey success into the cherry cup.


we will also be supporting the bid by vilita to host the cherry cup!

The usual inane babble

Hear, hear!

Vilita, chill out and shut up, this is not the World Cup, this is the Cherry Cup, and we're all a little more relaxed in this one.

I mean, bid threads for crying out loud? Je-sus, that's not an example of a chilled-out attitude to this thing. I gather Oliverry made his first, so wrist-slaps all round for you.

Lets all go back to dice for the Cherry Cup. Hell, it worked for us in #5, but not quite as well for TB at the time.

Being a noob I wasn't around for previous Cherry cups. But I entered this because it seemed more relaxed thn the world cup. All those regulations, where's the fun.

People please... we're at each other's throats for something that started off as a little mistake. Is it my fault all of this was caused when I posted my roster without knowing that it wasn't time yet? We must not fight in the threads, but in goals on the ice, that's what Hockey Canada will do in Cherry Cup IX. Thank you for your support Iansisle, thank you very much. As for the fued between Iansisle and Vilita, please just stop this before it gets out of hand. Save it for the ice all of you! Take it out on each other when the time comes. Thank you.

Hockey Canada will hopefully win more in a tournement of 1st timers, and with this, we will use this as an opportunity to compare ourselves with tropical powerhouses like Vilita and island winners such as Iansisle. Whatever happens, this tournement is going to be neck and neck.

(Knowing this fued, I feel just like Canada in RL. Trying to help when there is a problem in the world. And if a 14 year old from Waterloo can't help, we're all damned.)

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nothing is directly because of what you said, but the "feud", which i see as no more than a discussion, is long over so theres no need to restart things by bringing it back up. Lets just hope for a plentiful signup from here on in.

Sign Hiiraan

Let me say: I like the Cherry Cup because it's lose and casual, there are very few people shouting at each other and arguing about "realism" and lecturing each other. It's relaxed, and funny, and exaggerated, in the best traditions of NationStates -- a nice light-hearted bit of fluff by a brilliant and funny fellow with a book to promote and a bit of time on his hands. I dropped out of the World Cup some time back because it was too much bickering and unfriendliness towards new participants and layer upon layer of new rules and new levels of complexity and demands for constant posts. I'd far prefer a badly-run Cherry Cup to anything that reached that level of elaborateness.

Casual fun ahead of "scorinator" debates, that was the original philosophy that KN had when he started this thing up, and that's what i think this Cup should continue to be. I don't want it to be an attempt to be just like the World Cup, i want it to be the one with the goofy polls and the inexplicable success of teams from tropical countries and the random songs about the evil Bettman. The World Cup is a marvel of realistic simming and a remarkable achievement in collective role-play, but this is something different and lighter and airier. No need to try to make it the same: diversity is a good thing too.

TB: Once again, you have said what I wanted to express in a much more profound and eloquent manner than I ever could have done. I got so caught up in defending my vision of the spirit of the Cherry Cup that I completely violated it. You're absolutely right that "goofy polls and the inexplicable success of teams from tropical countries and the random songs about the evil Bettman" define the nature of the Cherry Cup - not long arguments about bids or overtime methods or what have you.

Now, I'm generally a pretty easy going guy, as I'm sure most of you know. However, defending something that I really enjoy, like the Cherry Cup, can raise my ire. I will be as rational as possible when I mention a few things that worry me about BOTH bids:

1) the multiple game series. An essential part of the Cherry Cup for me is the silly rivalries - eg the Hockey War with KN, the smack talking with Starblaydia about the Cup which I am no longer allowed to mention, or faux abuse hurled back and forth between victor and defeated. If we have longer series, I fear that the rivalries may vanish completely.

2) the rp bonus. The Cherry Cup has never been about regular role play posting. I feel that KN, besides founding the thing, has also been one of the best contributors. However, he only posts every couple games at most! The World Cup is slipping away into greater befuddlement because of the RP bonus: now there are arguments of "but I posts x more times than him - how could he win?" I never want to see that here. Scores should be (loosely) based upon rank and nothing else.

3) the increasing complexity. The first Cherry Cup was scorinated using dice. Now, I don't want to return completely to that - veterans will know why - but I think that throwing in the concepts of 'RP credit' and 'RP bonus' (which are apparently different) can only doom us. The great part of the CC is its accessibility to newcomers: if everything becomes a WCesque jumble, we will become nothing more than the WC on ice and with fewer people.

I've said my piece. I'm not sure about which bid I want to support: there are parts of Oliverry's that trouble me as much as Vilita's. I'll end now with a Thoreau quote.

"Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity!"

2) the rp bonus. The Cherry Cup has never been about regular role play posting. I feel that KN, besides founding the thing, has also been one of the best contributors. However, he only posts every couple games at most! The World Cup is slipping away into greater befuddlement because of the RP bonus: now there are arguments of "but I posts x more times than him - how could he win?" I never want to see that here. Scores should be (loosely) based upon rank and nothing else.
"Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity!"

If you read my RP bonus, Ian, it says pretty much this:

You can RP all you want, but that doesnt mean you'll ever get a single point of credit to help your score. If you're lucky, you might get it once or twice, but most likely, you'll have no advantage by RPing.


Also, My bid calls for Multiple (2 wins) Series only if there are a small number of signups and only during the Middle 2 rounds of knockout competition, the first round and the final would be one leg only.

I did read your post, and trust me: blind arrogance and impudence is NOT going to win you any favors from me.

*feels ire raising again; beats down*

I have to ask: if there's little to no bonus for RPing, THEN WHY EVEN HAVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? Is it simply complexity for the sake of complexity?

the smack talking with Starblaydia about the Cup which I am no longer allowed to mention

Cherry Cup V Champions, baby, yeah!!1

Pity the Dwarves don't care about Iansisle very much ;) They're in a whole different league from you ;)

I did read your post, and trust me: blind arrogance and impudence is NOT going to win you any favors from me.

*feels ire raising again; beats down*

I have to ask: if there's little to no bonus for RPing, THEN WHY EVEN HAVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? Is it simply complexity for the sake of complexity?


because of users who i won't single out who say that if the RP bonus is not included, they will not participate at all. This RP bonus is pretty much appealing to both sides. It still gives the anal RPers their chance to improve, while opening a fair door to all

because of users who i won't single out who say that if the RP bonus is not included, they will not participate at all. This RP bonus is pretty much appealing to both sides. It still gives the anal RPers their chance to improve, while opening a fair door to all

Having just run a Cherry Cup with NO rp bonus whatsoever, I can safely say that I have heard of no one claiming that they will not participate without one. I feel that we had a very even field of competitors nearly all of whom submitted at least one RP even without the bonus.

That said, anyone anal enough to refuse to post without an RP bonus probably isn't the sort who understands the Cherry Cup anyway. We don't want to be the World Cup on ice - we want to be the Cherry Cup.

We don't want to be the World Cup on ice - we want to be the Cherry Cup.
Thanks for the slogan :p

A survey of Wikiquote turned up this gem on Don Cherry:

"He walked the dasher as if it were a tightrope, pumped on adrenaline, howling at all perceived injustices. He quoted Lord Nelson and Popeye to the press. He treated each game as if he were sending knights of honor off to an icy plain to defend the honor of the poor city of Boston. He had fun." –Leigh Montville of Sports Illustrated

He quoted Lord Nelson and Popeye to the press

"We's defeated the Frenchies. Ug-ug-ug-ug!"

One year later:

http://www.fewings.ca/2004/optimized/040209DonCherry.jpg

This is all going in a downward spiral... Sure we have newbs, and I was in CCVIII, but people need to know that veterans will probably have the odds in their favour. If they competedin all previous 8 Cherry Cups, then the odds are stacked against someone who's just starting. Now my second Cherry Cup will be more successful hopefully, seeing all the newbs joining, but weren't we all newbs at one point in time? Yeah I was a little pissed that newbs got past the Round Robin over some veterans, but I got over it and Hockey Canada is coming back to winit all this year, only this time we know what to expect!

Yar, ye can be countin' me in.

Frozcheva would like to come back for a second cup.

Hockey Canada players have been pushed to the extremes and will hopefully dominate every game in IX.

Signups (22):

Kalaallit Nunaat
Starblaydia
Iansisle
Vilita†
Fimble loving people
Liverpool England
Hockey Canada
Squornshelous
Oliverry†
Robotopolis*
Piquantrax*
Tanah Burung
Sarzonia
Hisam
Sjwitz*
South Osettia*
Cockbill Street*
Crystilakere*
Hiiraan
Bryn Shander*
Frozcheva
Very Angry Rabbits*

* - rookies (to the best of my knowledge. I think CS may have participated in a Cherry Cup before, but I’m not positive. Apologies if I’ve missed/accidentally included anyone in this category.)

† - bidding

PS: I just noticed that I spelled Hiiraan’s name wrong throughout CCVIII. I’m really sorry about that, man. :)

This is Ice Hockey, yes?

Please sign up the Very Angry Rabbits

This is Ice Hockey, yes?

Please sign up the Very Angry Rabbits

It certainly is, and added! :)

* - rookies (to the best of my knowledge. I think CS may have participated in a Cherry Cup before, but I’m not positive. Apologies if I’ve missed/accidentally included anyone in this category.

Two that I can remember - CC7 and one pre-ignominy...

It certainly is, and added! :)Thank you.

We're a little less angry now.

How does this work?

Two that I can remember - CC7 and one pre-ignominy...

Ah, I suspected as much! I believe CCVII is recent enough to give you non-rookie status, so I'll remove it posthaste.

Thank you.

We're a little less angry now.

How does this work?

It's pretty simple, really. After enough people sign up, we'll start a new thread. In that thread, you can post a hockey roster for you team. The host (either Vilita or Oliverry) will come up with scores for everyone according to the schedule, and we RP what happened in those matches. Silliness is encouraged at all times.

For an example, check out the Cherry Cup 8 thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387716). They're in the semifinals now, but you can see what all we do. :)

Yeah, it's not hard. You're part of a division where you play each team twice (usually). The top 2 teams from each division advance to the relegation round and a wild card. after that it's do or die.

Yeah, it's not hard. You're part of a division where you play each team twice (usually). The top 2 teams from each division advance to the relegation round and a wild card. after that it's do or die.
It looks like you didn't read my bid...

The Arctic Hares
Hockey Team from Very Angry Rabbits

Goalkeepers:
Carl Eichbaum #00 Normal Starting Goalkeeper
Jose Esposito #99 substitute

Defenders:
1st Defense
Randy Boeskitz #2
Jacov Immiwitz #4
2nd Defense
Piers Dornetski #12
Raphael Angelino #14
3rd Defense
Jann Stremm #22
Ian Sisle #24

Right Wingers:
Alphonse Sommers #30 – 1st line *
Danny Johnson #31 – 2nd line
Grigor Dennisovitch #32 - 3rd line
Gunter Toivel #33 – 4th line

Left Wingers:
Johan Schmidt #40 – 1st line
Ravik Tennkilsohn #41 – 2nd line @
Serg Mendelson #42 – 3rd line
Hans Brinker #43 – 4th line

Centers:
Heinz Funfzigger – 1st line
Pavel Reichs – 2nd line
Andreas Neuheimer – 3rd line
Robbi Richards – 4th line

* Captain
@ Alternate Captain

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Start like this?

The Arctic Hares
Hockey Team from Very Angry Rabbits

Goalkeepers:
Carl Eichbaum #00 Normal Starting Goalkeeper
Jose Esposito #99 substitute

Defenders:
1st Defense
Randy Boeskitz #2
Jacov Immiwitz #4
2nd Defense
Piers Dornetski #12
Raphael Angelino #14
3rd Defense
Jann Stremm #22
Ian Sisle #24

Right Wingers:
Alphonse Sommers #30 – 1st line *
Danny Johnson #31 – 2nd line
Grigor Dennisovitch #32 - 3rd line
Gunter Toivel #33 – 4th line

Left Wingers:
Johan Schmidt #40 – 1st line
Ravik Tennkilsohn #41 – 2nd line @
Serg Mendelson #42 – 3rd line
Hans Brinker #43 – 4th line

Centers:
Heinz Funfzigger – 1st line
Pavel Reichs – 2nd line
Andreas Neuheimer – 3rd line
Robbi Richards – 4th line

* Captain
@ Alternate Captain

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Start like this?

Nah, save it for the rp

Start like this?

Perfect. However, like Hockey Canada said, we usually wait until the new thread has been posted. When it goes up, we'll post a link on this thread. It may be about a week or so.

Ok. That will work out well. We will sit around munching carrots and getting angrier, so when the games start we will be in the proper mood.

I will not be able to use a computer from 19-02 - 26-02, though.

We are also willing to enter the 9th Cherry Cup as well under the rookie status...

A Big Welcome back to the estranged nation of Adrasuvare!

Lovisa of course apply too

Great to have you again, Lovisa. :)

Signups (24):

Kalaallit Nunaat
Starblaydia
Iansisle
Vilita†
Fimble loving people
Liverpool England
Hockey Canada
Squornshelous
Oliverry†
Robotopolis*
Piquantrax*
Tanah Burung
Sarzonia
Hisam
Sjwitz*
South Osettia*
Cockbill Street
Crystilakere*
Hiiraan
Bryn Shander*
Frozcheva
Very Angry Rabbits*
Adrasuvare*
Lovisa

* - rookies (to the best of my knowledge, which isn't much ;).)

† - bidding

Think 24 is enough? maybe 4 divisions for 5 teams each? or 3 divisions of eight? well, not sure up here.

I'm not sure. I think we should at least keep the signups open until CCVIII is over or at least a host is chosen.

Why don't we do votes instead of backing nations(I know it's similar but votes ends in a short specific time)? Let's just say, before Thursday, 11:59 GMT-5, you can vote for the bid you want and the bid that has the most votes(then you know the following)

I think that KN should get the last voice on how we select a bid - it's his tournament, after all. I move we wait until he's online - I won't be simming the final for another day or two, so there's no rush.

(("another couple day or two"? What the hell was I smoking, and where can I get some (more)?))

thanks for that introduction, very nice timing!

both the bids are really impressive with their creativity and commitment. thanks for making them, Vilita and Oliverry.

in the past few Cups, it's been easy -- one bidder, so decision by consensus. before that, i just chose the host myself. i think we'll try a new system to select hosts as this event gets bigger and faster. instead of just me deciding, or having a poll with all the ballot box stuffing that can happen, or setting up a big unwieldly committee, here's the new method:

the next Cherry Cup host will be chosen by the current host, the previous host, adn the tournament founder. in this case, it means a decision by Liverpool England, Iansisle, and Kalaallit Nunaat.

Liverpool England, Iansisle, and Kalaallit Nunaat.

With this likely being the last cherry cup i am able to host (possibly could bid for 10, depending on how long 9 takes) i would just ask LE & Iansisle to select their choice based on the bid and ability to successfully host a tournament, and not based on personal relations. :)

Think 24 is enough? maybe 4 divisions for 5 teams each?

that would be perfect for my bid (24 teams) as 4 divisions of 5 teams fits perfectly with the bid (4 teams auto-qual) leaving 20 (4x5) teams in the group stage.

You bid certainly does look impressive, I've got to say... that is occassionally more than enough to sway me. I'll make a decision soon.

It also works perfectly with my bid:
2 conferences of 12 teams each with 2 divisions of 6 inside each and 16 teams to qualify in total!

*d'ohs the double post*

It's been a long time since I've had to deal with one of these.

I'll try not to be insulted that you've just called into question my integrity and my ability to be neutral, Vilita. :P

*goes to re-review the bids*

With this likely being the last cherry cup i am able to host (possibly could bid for 10, depending on how long 9 takes) i would just ask LE & Iansisle to select their choice based on the bid and ability to successfully host a tournament, and not based on personal relations. :)

I wouldn't worry, Vil, they're both honest people in my experience.

I wouldn't worry, Vil, they're both honest people in my experience.

You missed the first AO Hockey cup in Atlantian Oceania... You should move in and compete (possibly host?) the second...

Hockey Canadians bid for CC 10... 1st outdoor CC game ever in Hockey Canada's extreme Arctic Conditions. I will officially ask for a bid once CC IX is closing. Thank you.

Hockey Canadians bid for CC 10... 1st outdoor CC game ever in Hockey Canada's extreme Arctic Conditions. I will officially ask for a bid once CC IX is closing. Thank you.

Do you know how to host a tournament? And If Oliverry wins the bid for this cup, they have an outdoor arena. What method will you use to determine scores?

Do you know how to host a tournament? And If Oliverry wins the bid for this cup, they have an outdoor arena. What method will you use to determine scores?

Don't crush his dreams. Educate him.

well, hopefully using scorinator, but it's a little far away to be getting to the finer points

Don't crush his dreams. Educate him.

Well i don't want to sound stupid by explaining to him how hosting a cup works if he already knows, do I? Hence my asking him if he knew how to do it? I don't see what you are getting at.

Who Hoo! 100 Threads!


(Just thought I'd bring it up)

Well i don't want to sound stupid by explaining to him how hosting a cup works if he already knows, do I? Hence my asking him if he knew how to do it? I don't see what you are getting at.

Hmmm. Neither do I now. Bugger.

This is seeming kind of :headbang:

I thought it was more :p and a little :fluffle:

?

rabbits we are all going :headbang: right now

Very Angry Rabbits has been notified by (the UN?) that we are the 99,546th nudest nation in the world.

Since we are, after all, rabbits, and clothing is extremely optional for rabbits to say the least, we are wondering how there can be 99,545 nuder nations.

And who they are... :confused:

Very Angry Rabbits has been notified by (the UN?) that we are the 99,546th nudest nation in the world.

Since we are, after all, rabbits, and clothing is extremely optional for rabbits to say the least, we are wondering how there can be 99,545 nuder nations.

And who they are... :confused:

This isn't the thread for that. Though, by chance, I am one of those nations.

I'm # 36,994

This isnt the place to talk about your UN rankings....

Vote will come in in about 30 minutes.

yeah, probably right LE

hosting decision was a very hard one. again, both are good bids and i am sure both would run a great Cherry Cup.

however, a choice had to be made, and here it is:

Cherry Cup 9 will be hosted by: OLIVERRY, the pride of Rouyn-Noranda. Oliverry, please feel free to ask for help if you need it.

Hockey Canada, you're probably the earliest bid ever. looks like what i said about the fastest game on ice is coming true. once the CC10 (ten, that's quite an accomplishment!) sign-up thread is started, please post your offer to host there.

Wow! well done Oli! Canadians once again hosting. But CC9 will be probably the biggest Cherry Cup

Congratulations to Oliverry. Vil, if it makes you any happier, I can tell you that I voted for your bid as it impressed me more.

In celebration of the bid decision, I'll post the finals score for CCVIII at once. Congratulations to Oliverry, and commiserations to Vilita. :)

Sorry for the double post, but I've been thinking about this for a while, and I'd like to voice my intention of hosting CCX too. This is a great cup, and probably the next biggest sporting tourney to the WC, which I've failed to host yet, not that that has anything to do with this. I'll be trying to improve on my CC7 cup, with full OT and all... just need someone to tell me the exact points sytem (for wins, losses, draws, OTWs, OTLs etc)...after all, it never hurts to keep on learning, and I'll be hoping to build on my CC7 experience.

Liverpool England for CCX!

hey! I'm bidding for CC10 too!

Iansisle, the suspence is killing me!

hey! I'm bidding for CC10 too!

Iansisle, the suspence is killing me!
Then, you will not be able to host it, you will be dead :p

Cherry Cup 9 will be hosted by: OLIVERRY, the pride of Rouyn-Noranda. Oliverry, please feel free to ask for help if you need it.

Don't insult me saying that I come from Rouyn-Noranda. I'm proud of my city that is Val-d'Or.

When the emperor heard the official results, he decreted that tomorrow will be a national holiday to celebrate this. So, the people in Oliverry is celebrating tonight this win by getting in bars.

Anyway, Vilita, you did a very nice bid man!

With Vilita no longer the cups host, please remove Crystilakere from the entries.

sorry.

Oh well, at least we can haze zombie players or something.

let's not start a thread until mid-CC9 ok?

I propose an all-star game be played after the championchips for CC9. Then it can be a little post-tournement fun for everybody.

If Hockey Canada wins CC9, the Cherry Cup will go more North than it ever has, the 89th parallel. Hockey Canada officials are worried, thinking that because of -42 degrees celcius, the warmest in Hockey Canadian recorded history, it might not help them win a bid for CC10. But anyways, Hockey Canadian players have been working non-stop for CC9, and they know that they're going to try to win by intimidation.

Hockey Canada Player Stats:

Average age: 24
Average height: 6"4
Average weight: 217 lbs

Players: 23 (12 forwards, 6 defenceman, 3 goalies)
Starting players: 18
Minor Players: 4
Major League Players: 19
Average Points (per season): 133

Average GAA: 0.92
Average Save percentage: .989

Most Popular Brand used: Eagle Equipment
Most Popular Stick: Easton Synergy, Easton Stealth, Vapor XXX

Jersey Colours: Red, Black, White
Favourite Pre-Game meal: 10 hours before: Penguin Steak 3 hours before: Pasta

Number of fans cheering Hockey Canada: 160,000,000

We will rock you sung in Hockey Canadian:

Приятель Вы являетесь мальчиком, делает сильный шум
Плэйин? на улице, собирающейся, быть большим человеком однажды
Вы надевали грязь эй? лицо
Вы большой позор
Кикин? ваш может повсеместно

Мы будем мы быть качать Вас
Мы будем мы быть качать Вас

Приятель Вы - молодой человек твердый человек
Шоутин? на улице, собирающейся берут мир однажды
Вы надевали кровь эй? лицо
Вы большой позор
Уовин? ваш баннер повсеместно

Мы будем мы быть качать Вас
Мы будем мы быть качать Вас

Приятель Вы - старик бедный человек
Плидин? вашими глазами, собирающимися делают Вас небольшим количеством мира однажды

Вы получили грязь на вашем лице
Вы большой позор
Кто - то лучше откладывал Вас в вашем месте

Мы будем мы быть качать Вас
Мы будем мы быть качать Вас

There you have it... and yes... we will rock CC9

Hockey Canada Player Stats:

Average age: 24
Average height: 6"4
Average weight: 217 lbs

Dear god, what would my Dwarves line up as, 4'5" average height and 300 lbs of weight, perhaps? Would they need an 'average beard length' category too?

Having read Hockey Canada's post about playing the matches so far north, and out of doors, the Very Angry Rabbits Hockey Association President sits back, and grins.

After all, his team is "The Artic Hares"

lol... 4 foot 5? littke big for dwarves? sure... might as well seeing i even put most popular equipment.

89th parallel is the farthest north any nation has played hockey

1. HC, the all-star game will be upt o Oliverry, the host of CC9.
2. Your bid details could go in a bid thread, please, avoid messing up this thread with them. Other than that, good luck in winning the bid.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=396703

Just in case everyone missed it, as seems to be the case. :)

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=396703

Just in case everyone missed it, as seems to be the case. :)


Yes, another one of the downsides of Oliverry hosting tournaments, he never tells anyone when they start, so you only know if you are lucky enough to see him start the original thread. The last cup he ran, no one knew that it had started until after it was over!

16. All other teams participating

I hate it when you scorer-types do this. If you've got 23 teams in, make the ones who havent competed before all ranked Equal-23rd, rather than 16th.

I hate it when you scorer-types do this. If you've got 23 teams in, make the ones who havent competed before all ranked Equal-23rd, rather than 16th.This makes us Very Angry...wait, we were already Very Angry...perhaps we'll become the Much Angrier Rabbits :mad:

Seriously, if there are 1 thru 15 "rated" (ranked?) teams already, then making all us newcomers 16 is a better idea. Not necessarily more correct, but better. Ranking newcomers 16th will narrow the gap between established players and new ones - making for tighter scoring and a more even playing field. Ranking all newcomers 23rd will make the gap wider, the scoring more clearly in favor of the established players, and frankly disuade newcomers from becoming established players.

16 - yes :D
23 - no :gundge:

16 - yes
23 - no

Your points are all valid, but its just a personal pet hate of mine. Nothing to to with the fact i'm ranked 1st, but it'd annoy me even more if I was 15th :D

Yes, another one of the downsides of Oliverry hosting tournaments, he never tells anyone when they start, so you only know if you are lucky enough to see him start the original thread. The last cup he ran, no one knew that it had started until after it was over!

Thank you for confirming me in my vote. I'd much, much rather play in a Cherry Cup with a few bumps on the road than one run by an icehole.

Damn it! I'm late for sign-ups.

In that case, I can't say that I support Vilita hosting a Cup. One of the attractions of the Cherry Cup - in my opinion - is that it is so much less formal than the World Cup. If we start being snotty about what goes in which thread or degrading people for making mistakes, we'll be losing a lot of what makes the CC different. I can't speak for everyone, naturally, but I assume that the community at large doesn't want the Cherry Cup to just be the World Cup on ice, with all its formalities and lost friendships and whining and spreadsheets nine miles long just to calculate a rank.


Very well said, what attracts me to the Cherry Cup is exactly that it puts funs ahead of formality.

Thank you for confirming me in my vote. I'd much, much rather play in a Cherry Cup with a few bumps on the road than one run by an icehole.


I wouldnt be an "icehole" if it werent for you getting mad at me for telling hockey canada not to post his roster in the signup thread...

It seems to me that you are an "icehole" that thinks he is the sole participant in the cherry cup, and only your opinion matters. There are 22 other teams entered, you know that right? It's not the "Iansisle" cup. Before you attacked what I had said to Hockey Canada, you attacked what Liverpool England had said. And he wasn't even mean about it, all he said was "please dont post your rosters in the signup thread"

But you're right, The cherry cup will come to an end if we let people say something constructive to someone else, so we should just let everyone say and do whatever they want. But then, if that is the case, what is the problem with the things that I say? I mean, if there arent going to be any rules or organization attached with the cup, then there should be no problem with me saying what I want, just as much as hockey canada or anyone else saying whatever they want (such as making about 7 consecutive posts in just a few minutes time). I could easily have said "Hey, Hockey Canada, you dont have to keep hitting reply every 2 minutes, just edit your last post if you have something to say" but, oh no, if i open my mouth, the supreme being! Iansisle will get me! Oh no!... but oh yea, we can say whatever we want... Unless we are Vilita or Liverpool England, then we have rules against us...

Damn it! I'm late for sign-ups.



Very well said, what attracts me to the Cherry Cup is exactly that it puts funs ahead of formality.Braz: See post above from Otto Matic, Director of the Artic Hares.

If you would like, feel free to RP for the Hares during the Communications Outage ("Feb 19 05" - "Feb 26 05"). That way, you get to have some fun, and the Artic Hares opponents get an actual opponent instead of silence from the other side of the ice. No limitations of any kind on what you may choose to RP.

DIET: (no, no, no - I mean "EDIT:") (Diet? Carrots, of course) - BRAZ, sorry, the post from Otto Matic is in the Cherry Cup IX Roster/Score/RP Thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=396703), not this one.

Very Confused Rabbits.

editing the edit - Just read Ians post suggesting BRAZILLICO replace Crystilakere. That sounds like a better idea than this.

Damn it! I'm late for sign-ups.

We're one person short in one of the divisions after Crys (very rudely) dropped out. I can't speak for Oliverry, of course, but I'd love to have you fill the position - it'd be an nice example of informality. ;)

But you're right, The cherry cup will come to an end if we let people say something constructive to someone else, so we should just let everyone say and do whatever they want.

I got to right about there before I broke down laughing. You may be the least constructive person in the history of sports rp. You have the mystic ability to polarize people around you into "hate" and "love" categories.

The reason I am so hostile to you is because I've already seen you ruin the World Cup to the degree that great people like Brazillico and Tanah Burung and Snub Nose 38 don't want to participate. You've even ruined it for me - the Ians will be dropping out after WC21. I'll be absolutely damned if I let you ruin the Cherry Cup too.

As for Hockey Canada, yes, I find his mannerisms grating at times. However, he's pretty young and, unlike you, I like rookies who participate. He may not have found the best way in which to participate yet, but he's trying and he'll grow into it eventually. That's it, really: we have two diametrically opposed viewpoints. I'm all for giving people a chance, a second chance, and a third chance if they screw up; you are for smothing out all the bumps in the name of perfection.

I don't even know how LE ended up in this conversation. He's not my favorite person in the world, but I think we get on (if not famously) at least well.

All that said, it's even less the 'Vilita Cup' than it is the 'Iansisle Cup.' You're the one trying to twist and distort the very nature of the event, for which most people playing have expressed open admiration; I'm the one trying to preserve it for all of us.

I got to right about there before I broke down laughing. You may be the least constructive person in the history of sports rp. You have the mystic ability to polarize people around you into "hate" and "love" categories.

I was talking about the way you treated Liverpool England, actually. And it's obvious that you have a bias and "what you see is what you think" opinion of me, because despite my hostile image, you would be surprised to count the number of constructive and undeniably positive changes i have influenced in sports RP.

The reason I am so hostile to you is because I've already seen you ruin the World Cup to the degree that great people like Brazillico and Tanah Burung and Snub Nose 38 don't want to participate. You've even ruined it for me - the Ians will be dropping out after WC21. I'll be absolutely damned if I let you ruin the Cherry Cup too.

Brazillico? What did I do? He chose to host a tournament, and didnt finish hosting it. How is that my fault? And I don't think I've ever done anything to Tanah Burung other than invite them into our Sports-RP friendly region. Snub Nose 38 brought his pain onto himself. He dropped out of the world cup long before I ever had any interactions with him (for RL reasons). Then, he decided to screw around with everyone in the cup by entering a puppet nation without saying that it was his. This was clearly against the rules that Snub himself had drafted for teams entering the world cup. I, as host of that cup, refused to let the puppet in on those grounds, and ironically, snub made a scene out of it, despite being the one who wrote the rule. I then allowed Snub to return to the cup, even though signups had long closed, due to the fact that he's been around for so long. I didn't have a problem with him, but apparently he had a problem with me for upholding his rule, and still letting him in the cup despite all that.

As for Hockey Canada, yes, I find his mannerisms grating at times. However, he's pretty young and, unlike you, I like rookies who participate. He may not have found the best way in which to participate yet, but he's trying and he'll grow into it eventually. That's it, really: we have two diametrically opposed viewpoints. I'm all for giving people a chance, a second chance, and a third chance if they screw up; you are for smothing out all the bumps in the name of perfection.

You're right, I don't like rookies who participate. I forgot who was it that took the Baptism of Fire cup from a dying competition with 2 pages of RP, to a tournament that will have 22 entries this season? Oh right, it was me, wasn't it? But you're right, those damn rookies. I can't stand when they participate!

All that said, it's even less the 'Vilita Cup' than it is the 'Iansisle Cup.' You're the one trying to twist and distort the very nature of the event, for which most people playing have expressed open admiration; I'm the one trying to preserve it for all of us.

All I ever did was say that I wouldn't tolerate "stupidity." I never called anyone stupid I never said i would take away the fun, All I said was stupidity was a nono. You forced the creation of a brand new bid to counter mine, by outlying all the features that You thought should be in the cup. When Oliverry's bid was posted You went through it and told him what You didnt like in it, and You got him to change it to fit You're desires. I'm not twisting anything. I didnt try and influence anyone, I didn't try and be greedy. All I did was say "Hey, I want to host the cherry cup, and this is how i want to do it". You, on the other hand, seem to have become the dictator of the cherry cup, and if something isn't done the way You want it to be done, it must be wrong, and worth starting an arguement over.

I was talking about the way you treated Liverpool England, actually.

I can't remember ever making a malicious comment to LE. If I have offended him in some way, I wish he would bring it to my attention. However, at present this argument is dismissed as hearsay.

And it's obvious that you have a bias and "what you see is what you think" opinion of me, because despite my hostile image, you would be surprised to count the number of constructive and undeniably positive changes i have influenced in sports RP

I've news for you, Vil: I've never met you and I live 3,000 miles away. D'you think my opinion of you might be constructed by what I see you post on a message board? Damn straight it is. And until you prove to me that you are not an asshole, I have to go with the image of an asshole that you have projected for yourself.

-snip about veterans-

Irrelevent. Any one of those three has made far greater contributions to the world of sports rp than you or I ever will.

(NB: see, friends? Logical fallacies and non sequitors have worked for Vilita and they can work for you too! Please consider investing in Iansisle's revolutionary Vilitabot™ to annoy your friends!)

You're right, I don't like rookies who participate. I forgot who was it that took the Baptism of Fire cup from a dying competition with 2 pages of RP, to a tournament that will have 22 entries this season? Oh right, it was me, wasn't it? But you're right, those damn rookies. I can't stand when they participate!

I've never seen the Baptism of Fire but I have seen the Cherry Cup. You haven't been nice to anyone your entire time here and have been even less nice to rookies.

All I ever did was say that I wouldn't tolerate "stupidity."

If you can't see the problem with this statement now then you never will.

I never called anyone stupid I never said i would take away the fun, All I said was stupidity was a nono.

Nice try, Bill Clinton.

"No, I swear! When I quoted Hockey Canada's post and said 'stupidity will not be tolerated', I didn't mean to imply that HC was stupid! I just put the bullshit to my lips, I never inhaled!"

You forced the creation of a brand new bid to counter mine, by outlying all the features that You thought should be in the cup. When Oliverry's bid was posted You went through it and told him what You didnt like in it, and You got him to change it to fit You're desires. I'm not twisting anything. I didnt try and influence anyone, I didn't try and be greedy. All I did was say "Hey, I want to host the cherry cup, and this is how i want to do it". You, on the other hand, seem to have become the dictator of the cherry cup, and if something isn't done the way You want it to be done, it must be wrong, and worth starting an arguement over.

I love how you use the bold to highlight your boneheaded grammatical errors (You're desires...*snicker*.)

First off, I never demanded that Oliverry enter a bid. I was very pleased when he decided to, but I was asleep at the time. Maybe, however, I have some sort of mind control ray that I activate and bid French-Canadians thousands of miles away to do my nefarious bidding. Or maybe Oliverry just wanted to host. Then I make a few suggestions on how to improve his bid, one of which he accepted - my God, there MUST be a conspiracy!

Now, I have to wonder: one of my suggestions was that we drop the RP bonus. We still have the RP bonus. How does this fit into my master scheme, o sniper on the grassy knoll?

Although I feel that your entire argument falls apart when someone looks at it, I have to wonder: how am I the dictator of the Cherry Cup? I've never bid to host it and only did so because no one wanted to once. I then ran a cup based on democratic ideals - I both accepted and encouraged suggestions (of course, when Oliverry does this, it is because I am a shadowy dictator hiding behind the scenes manipulating him...which makes PERFECT sense!).

I think we will let Brazillico enter this one, simply because we are lacking someone. And Vilita and Iansisle, stop that please. I mean, like you even said before Iansisle, this is supposed to be fun, not to be uninterresting. And anyway, that will not be my hosting that will kill this Cup, but the fact that you're fighting about little shitty thing about other tournaments and cup-killing concepts. These feuds will just make this hockey cup fall down. So now, stop that shit and let the tournament start!

I hate it when you scorer-types do this. If you've got 23 teams in, make the ones who havent competed before all ranked Equal-23rd, rather than 16th.

I just did that so it could fit in the scorinator.

1. HC, I agree with Star/Vil/whoever else. Stop the nonsense and start RPing; this is Oliverry's cup, not your's, you can't make decisions.
2. Vil/Iansisle: I think me and Iansisle have had conflicts in the past, but none I can name at this moment.

LE, WTF? I'm not saying anything that's hurting anything or anyone, so just lay off.

LE, WTF? I'm not saying anything that's hurting anything or anyone, so just lay off.

It's annoying. You posted 8 messages with no response from anyone else in a row. if you're going to do that , at least go back and edit the original post instead.

Vil, just take it easy. People who come into these threads and see these wonder "who in the world argues about something as simple as RP?". To be honest, I think you need to just lighten up, and see things from a different perspective. If someone screws up, it's ok, no one died or lost a limb. As long as people are having fun in threads like these, well isn't that the whole reason NS was started? To have fun and interact with other nations.

Personally, I'm actually happy that people are setting everything on the table. Telling people what they think of them to get it out of their system. If anyone has any s**t to say to me, then please say it. I'd rather have alot of smack thrown at me at once than spread out over the course of a few months. I'm just 14, not using that as an excuse, but I'm just thinking that if anyone makes a mistake, no matter how many times, it's forgivable.

Feeling like Canada in RL here, trying to iron out the problems and disputes between 2 different nations, and i don't think it's all necessary. I wasn't telling Oli how to run a tourney, in fact, I'd rather have all of you show me how to run one properly only without critisism. This is getting sad people, taking quotes from other people's posts and using whatever their opinions are against them.

(God this speech would make me Prime Minister of Canada)

To be honest, I think you need to just lighten up, and see things from a different perspective.

[QUOTE]Personally, I'm actually happy that people are setting everything on the table. Telling people what they think of them to get it out of their system. If anyone has any s**t to say to me, then please say it. I'd rather have alot of smack thrown at me at once than spread out over the course of a few months.

Okay, now your confusing me.


I'd rather have all of you show me how to run one properly only without critisism.

So then why didnt you respond when i asked you if you knew how to run a tournament? I mean other people responded, and yelled at me for asking you that... was i wrong to ask you that? Apparently not...

just say what you have to say about me!

We already did... You are posting too much OOC stuff all over the place and no one has a clue whats going on. Just calm down and think before you post, you dont have to post everything that comes to your head! if you want information on hosting, or someones stadium, send them a TG or a instant message, we'll be more than happy to talk

u should listen to a song by green day... called minority, cuz that's how i feel:

(chorus)
i want to be the minority
i dont need your authority
down with the moral majority
'cause i want to be the minority

i pledge allegiance to the underworld
one nation under dog
there of which i stand alone
a face in the crowd
unsung, against the mold
without a doubt,
singled out
the only way i know

*chorus*

stepped out of the line
like a sheep runs from the herd
marching out of time
to my own beat now
the only way i know
one light, one mind
flashing in the dark
blinded by silence of a thousand broken hearts
"for cryin out loud" she screamed unto me
a free for all
f**k 'em all
"you are your own sight"

*chorus*

hockey canada you make no sense.

You tell me to stop talking

then you tell me to speak up

then you tell me you dont like when i'm talking

i dont get it, so i wont bother.

4get about it, it seems like most Americans don't understand Canadian language anyways. Well, mostly just you, because Iansisle seems to have more common sense. Keeping things in order must be a real hard time for you, Iansisle seems to have it down... accepting people, not insulting, not doing anything to P.O. anyone.

Oliverry and Starblaydia keep the threads loose by making it fun and comical. In fact, every day when I come in the threads, it's usually Starblaydia's funny paragraphs that keep people in the rooms. Rather than insulting people just because they're new. Even you were a n00b at one point. Though hard to believe, you were a kid at one time. Take it easy, just make it fun for everyone, not just you.

Hockey Canada: The point I was trying to make about it not being your cup were your points about...
a. The all-star game suggestion
b. The playoff game between Braz and the other team - Oliverry has final say, there wasnt a need to give suggestions, he'll do what he sees fit.

If anyone has any s**t to say to me, then please say it.

Erm...manadatory minimums are racist! (Was that s**t enough?)

I don't want to get caught up in this argument, so I'll just ask my question and go.

I'm in Division 2 Capital, and my first game is against Starblaydia in Division 1 Capital (couldn't have got a better CC debut game, could I?) Am I right to think that I will play all the teams in all the Capital Divisions? When that's done it's the top eight in each division that goes through. Does that mean the top 4 in Division 1 and Division 2, or the top eight teams overall in both divisions? This is probably really simple, but I'm kinda confused here. Any help?

I'm in Division 2 Capital, and my first game is against Starblaydia in Division 1 Capital (couldn't have got a better CC debut game, could I?) Am I right to think that I will play all the teams in all the Capital Divisions? When that's done it's the top eight in each division that goes through. Does that mean the top 4 in Division 1 and Division 2, or the top eight teams overall in both divisions? This is probably really simple, but I'm kinda confused here. Any help?


Well yes, you're playing the only two-time winners and current defending champions, so that's gotta be a prestige game for you ;)

I think its the top 8/12 in each Conference, sending 16 teams to a knockout. Why there are two divisions within each conference, only Oliverry can tell you.

To confirm, the 8 firsts of each conference advances to 1st round of playoffs

2 Conferences, with a toal for Four Divisions... and we get eight Firsts from that? Eh? My entire ockey knowledge comes from an NHL '98 demo and the Might Ducks films, so don't take anything I say to be the correct interpretation.

Well yes, you're playing the only two-time winners and current defending champions, so that's gotta be a prestige game for you ;)

Imagine if we won. ;)

Somehow I don't think that'll happen.

Imagine if we won. ;)

Somehow I don't think that'll happen.

If it did, it'd warrant much beard-shaving and a rather large entry against your nation in the Book of Grudges :D

Erm, sign us up.

Imagine if we won. ;)

Somehow I don't think that'll happen.

Have you ever heard of the "Miracle on Ice"? Could come in handy when you play them.

sorry to tell you this Kelssek, but the Cup is now full. i hope you'll sign up for CC10.

to avoid creating the impression that this is still an active sign-up, i've created a new thread entitled "cherry chatter" at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397097

please continue your discussion there. i'd also like to ask that everyone cool it a bit and treat your fellow players with respect. let's especially try to keep this a friendly environment for new players. let's not act like the NHL.

love,
your favourite murderous dictator

Here's a little something that those that have missed the signup for CC9:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397253
The Grapes Cup is like the AHL to Cherry Cup's NHL. The players are good enough to play, but just missed out signing up. And besides, why should anyone miss out after missing one day?

Here's a little something that those that have missed the signup for CC9:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397253
The Grapes Cup is like the AHL to Cherry Cup's NHL. The players are good enough to play, but just missed out signing up. And besides, why should anyone miss out after missing one day?


Nope, I wasn't right. Not at all.

The Grapes Cup... Who is it named after? Granny Grape?

Nope, I wasn't right. Not at all.

The Grapes Cup... Who is it named after? Granny Grape?

Maybe she's Don Cherry's mother (wouldn't it be spelled Cherries? I've always wondered that)

TB - perhaps we should start a Raspberry Cup? ;)

Snub, are you in this tourney? You can sign up for the Grapes Cup at any time.

Snub, are you in this tourney? You can sign up for the Grapes Cup at any time.No, HC - not in this tourney. I just kind of float through NS sports a little (kind of like a ghost) now. Lookin' in on the Cherry Cup because TB recommended it to me once as a lot of fun.

To be honest it is. You get people like Iansisle and Vilitia who organize Cherry Cups like these and think "wow, how do they do it?". It's really fun because Starblaydia usually posts funny stuff. A few times I've come on just to read Starblaydia's posts for a good laugh. Anyways, just trying out my CC10 bid for the Grapes Cup. Who knows? it might be the Baptisim of Fire for hockey (compared to the World Cup and Cherry Cup).

Goddamn it HC, don't EVER mention Vil to Snubby... he'll run.... Snubby, don't leave us here in the CC!

LE: I'm not in the Cherry Cup. And, I know Vilita is. As I said up above, I just scan the sports threads once in awhile.

LE: I'm not in the Cherry Cup. And, I know Vilita is. As I said up above, I just scan the sports threads once in awhile.

I know you arent in... just want to keep you around in this/other CC threads.