NationStates Jolt Archive


What camouflage does your nation use?

East Islandia
23-01-2005, 02:42
East Islandia, being a nation of mainly tropical rainforests and deserts (with some plains and many islands) has long placed emphasis on camouflage. In the past, the victor was usually the side with better camouflage/concealment and better trained soldiers (one or the other).

However, with the advent of digital camouflage, military authorities were quick to realize that concealment had entered a new phase of development.

These are some of the patterns used by my nation:

Woodland:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/MilPat-5C-Woodland-60-Jacket-jpg.jpg


Desert/Arid:
Pattern 1:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/Airtex-60-Desert-1-Jacket.jpg

Pattern 2:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/SupraTex-5C-60-Desert-Jacket.jpg


Jungle:
Pattern1:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/ComPat-5C-Subtropical-2-65-Jacket-jpg.jpg

Pattern 2:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/SupraTex-5C-60-Subtropical-2-Jacket.jpg

Urban:
http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/SupraTex-5C-60-Urban.jpg

http://www.hyperstealth.com/miltex/MilPat-5C-Urban-60-Jacket-jpg.jpg


Note: pattern 1 designs are used by Army forces, whereas pattern 2 are finding service with Marines. Air Force paratroopers use DPM and are beginning to use a new, digitalized version of DPM (a british camo).
New Genoa
23-01-2005, 03:06
Whatever's needed... but probably ususually woodland.
The Unreal Soldiers
23-01-2005, 03:11
Active camo
East Sibir
23-01-2005, 03:14
East Sibir prefers pure-white winter camo for combat, provided that the combat is in winter, and that there's snow. Otherwise, we stick with woodland.
5318008
23-01-2005, 03:16
My nation uses enhanced hot girl camo.

But during times of war, we usually use either the tried and proven woodland/desert/urban/etc camo. and we don't mind using the DPM camo being used by the Marines and other certain organizations.

For secret spy missions, we use the tried and proven Active Camo.

and for bathroom missions, we use naked.
5318008
23-01-2005, 03:17
by naked I mean not MGS 3 naked.
Tanara
23-01-2005, 03:20
Of them all, your urban 1 cam is the best at simply disappearing against the 'terrain'.
Markreich
23-01-2005, 03:35
Since it's 1908...
http://home.comcast.net/~markconrad/AustrianPhotos/AustrianDkTunic.html
Dostanuot Loj
23-01-2005, 03:37
Being spread amongst the fertile crescant, desert, southern woodlands, and carribean, the military requires a great assortment of camoflauge.

Republican Gaurd/Territorial Gaurd use these patterns:
- Woodland (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/italiansanmarcomarine.jpg)
- Jungle (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/comsubin_camo.jpg)
- Desert (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/hungarian_army_desert.jpg)
- Mountian (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/spanish_marine_desert_camo.jpg)
- Urban Sumer Territory (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/comsubin_desert_camo.jpg)
- Urban Ke'Tuna Territory (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/san_marco_marine_desert_pattern.jpg)

The Republican Marines and Special Weapons units use these patterns:
- Woodland (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/italiansanmarcomarine.jpg)
- Jungle (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/swissalpenflage.jpg)
- Desert (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/comsubin_desert_camo.jpg)
- Grasslands (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/hungarian_army_desert.jpg)
- Mountian (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/spanish_marine_desert_camo.jpg)
- Urban (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Dostanuot/polish_desert_camouflage.jpg)

We do not dosclose the camo patterns used by our Special Operations units however.
Arcolus
23-01-2005, 05:40
Hide behind a rock and send bullets through the back of the little freak's head. The opponent we are currently at war with, although numerous and fierce, isn't very bright.
Donut to the Saige
23-01-2005, 05:45
My nations camo? That's for me to know and you to find out (although you'll have a hard time doing that). :mp5:
Enbilulu
23-01-2005, 05:52
adaptive cameo change with senary like a chemleon one would say
Wandering Argonians
23-01-2005, 05:54
OOC: Since the Black Marsh is, of course, a marsh, a newer version of the Tiger-Stripe variant of jungle camo is used. The only real difference between the newer variant & the 1960's type would be the dyes are no longer vegetable dyes that fade with use. This pattern works well due to its all-around effectiveness on soil, foliage, and some types of rock.

Since isolation is a way of life for the Argonian people, there would be little need for a pattern to match that of other nation's landscapes, as invasion would be unlikely.
Crimmond
23-01-2005, 06:55
For regular troops?

Eurpoean Woodland (http://www.uniteddynamics.com/pixelpat/9007.jpg)
Lowlight Urban (http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-Photos9/ukrainian-blue-camo-b.jpg)
Forest Snow (http://www.bowhunting.net/sticks/snowlc.jpg)
Plains Snow (http://www.recon.net.pl/camo/snow_3.jpg)
Winter (http://usera.imagecave.com/Alpha-Zero/Sniper1.JPG)

For Assault Marines?

Armor (http://home.earthlink.net/~alpha_zero_usm/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/combat_armor.jpg)
(Our policy is, if you can't do a thing to stop us, who cares if you see us?)

Snipers and Special Ops?

In addition to the regular camo:
Ghillie Suit (http://www.gunfactory.ch/bekleidung/images/ghillie.jpg)
Omz222
23-01-2005, 07:36
Ground Forces (Infantry):
The Omzian military prefers mobility and simplicity, so although the Omzian military has active camoflauge technology, we do not use them on troops. Instead, we use highly modified vetrsions of the standard MARPAT/CADPAT "digital camo" schemes (known as STOCH - STandard Omzian Combat scHemes), in which there are several patterns:
-Woodland
-Desert
-Jungle
-Grasslands
-Arctic/Mountain
-Urban (Standard)
-Urban (Desert Environment)

Vehicles: The Omzian Army uses similar camoflauge for their armoured vehicles, which includes tanks, armoured personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles. Although STOCH is used again, camoflauge patterns mainly involes only woodland, desert, and urban, depending on what units the ground vehicles are placed in.

The Omzian Air Force, for some aircraft operating on the front lines, also uses various camoflauge schemes, though the typical scheme for a fighter is a grey-blue blend, while bombers typically has either a low-visibility grey-blue daylight operation scheme, or a dark blue night operation scheme. For rough field operations, various aircraft, especially attack aircraft, are painted with similar STOCH patterns as the ground vehicles, with the most common being woodland and desert.

The Omzian Navy, for its littoral operation units and coastal patrol submarines, uses various patterns as well to blend the vessels "into" the environment they are in, to degrade the chance of being spotted and identified visually by enemy units (which is a threat near coastal areas, especially with small, stealthy missile craft).

As well, though Omzian naval infantry ("Omzian Naval Marines") wears the standard display uniform as their other counterparts in the Navy, in combat conditions they use similar patterns as the Army, though for amphibious operations the patterns are primarily geared towards coastal terrain.
Tagmatium
23-01-2005, 17:26
Camouflage is the colour of cowards... but it does keep you alive longer.
East Islandia
23-01-2005, 17:30
Camouflage is the colour of cowards... but it does keep you alive longer.

you cant hit what you cant see. and a live soldier is always better than a dead one.
Reincarnigotic
23-01-2005, 17:36
Hey I cant see the camoflauge!:rolleyes:

But on a serious note, Reincarnigotic dosent use camo. We just bust in and kill everyone. Our armor is very good though. ;)
Ivallice
23-01-2005, 17:44
Camoflague ? For get That! My soldiers wear powered armour with bright clours to inflict fear upon our enemies!

http://www.hamgrenade.com/samples/cglenn/images/portfolio/3d/space_detail.jpg

Lol, I love Warhammer 40K....
East Islandia
23-01-2005, 17:56
Camoflague ? For get That! My soldiers wear powered armour with bright clours to inflict fear upon our enemies!




ever play Halo I or II? If you did, notice how the Covenant make for easy sniping because they are so inconspicuous (wearing golden, blue, and rainbow armor)?
Margrech
23-01-2005, 18:01
Since our civil war several years ago, our island is a sterile blackened husk. because of this we found that those with camo. stood out a little, the only colour offering any form of cover was graphite/black.

Shortly after the civil war our armed services were officially disbanded. Two years later, after much deliberation we reformed the military on a two tier system, consisting of a rota based conscription system where on any given day 1/7th of the population is under military orders ( excluding of course relatives of the President and his mistress ) and press-ganging of criminals into our 'standing' army.

Each branch of the army has a distinctive uniform, the conscripts wear a mix of civilian clothes in an attempt to 'blend' in with the rest of the populous. Those that say this is a cynical cost cutting exercise will be shot ( and charged for the expenditure of ammunition). The standing army wear a distinctive all over neon orange and will be used as the first line of defence should invasion occur, offering up their lives to protect the President^h^h^h^h^h^h^hNation.

All hail Margrech!
Ivallice
23-01-2005, 21:44
ever play Halo I or II? If you did, notice how the Covenant make for easy sniping because they are so inconspicuous (wearing golden, blue, and rainbow armor)?

Lemme start off by saying Halo 1 and 2 both stunk.

If you've never played WH40K then I don't expect you to know what a space marine is. Trust me though, almost nothing can kill them.
Imitora
23-01-2005, 21:49
We use a varient similar to the standard US Style Woodland Cammo (Not the digi type), but with much darker dyes so the coloring is slightly darker.
GMC Military Arms
24-01-2005, 01:43
Lemme start off by saying Halo 1 and 2 both stunk.

If you've never played WH40K then I don't expect you to know what a space marine is. Trust me though, almost nothing can kill them.

Excuse me? Most weapons in 40K are capable of beating a Marine's armour save.
Crimmond
24-01-2005, 02:08
Also note that Elite Armor has lots of segments and open joints. Also, way too thin and unpowered. If you want to talk about the abilities of Power Armor and HALO, look at the Mjolnir MK-V and VI.
Draconis Federation
24-01-2005, 02:35
BDU's and Body Armor:
Black, Gunmetal: Fleet, Air Corp, Navy
Olive Drab: Marine Corp, Mobile Corp

Gunmetal M2 or M3A-Body Armor with Black 3A16-BDU for SFS, SAS, and SNS
Olive Drab M2 or M3A-Body Armor with Black 3A16 BDU for Marine Corp, Mobile Infantry Corp, and Mobile Armor Corp

I also use optical camofluage on my ships and sinper/scouts but sparingly, and only when on active duty.
East Islandia
24-01-2005, 02:38
Lemme start off by saying Halo 1 and 2 both stunk.

If you've never played WH40K then I don't expect you to know what a space marine is. Trust me though, almost nothing can kill them.

I've never had the opportunity to play Warhammer, but I can tell you one thing for certain:
"indestructible" or "almost but not quite indestructible" armor cannot be equipped on a large scale. The costs inherent in building these damned things would be massive, and unless future nations dont have an economy, then it may not be practical to equip hundreds of thousands of troops with such armor.

And Halo I and II owns. If you dont believe me, then why did Halo II sell several million copies on PRE-ORDER? Before it actually hit the market!

Though admittedly human weaponry in Halo II is absolutely ridiculous (pump action shotguns? Tiny ass assault rifles that still fire bullet rounds??)
GMC Military Arms
24-01-2005, 08:03
And Halo I and II owns. If you dont believe me, then why did Halo II sell several million copies on PRE-ORDER? Before it actually hit the market!

Rise of the Robots had similiar sales in the day. Sales prove nothing. Halo is an acquired taste, you either love it or hate it. And hell, nothing wrong with cheap, easily servicable automatic weapons...
Gelfland
24-01-2005, 08:24
I would agree the halo weapons are a little strange, but something about trying to beat someone down with a radioactive porcupine is entertaining, at least until they realise they are carrying a grenade.


as for my country's camo, we use little, but we are currently testing a unique idea involving several buckets of potting soil, and a modified luggage cart.
Crimmond
24-01-2005, 08:31
as for my country's camo, we use little, but we are currently testing a unique idea involving several buckets of potting soil, and a modified luggage cart.This sounds like a set up to a college frat stunt...
Ivallice
24-01-2005, 22:59
Excuse me? Most weapons in 40K are capable of beating a Marine's armour save.

I am refering to the marines in the fluff, not the fair and balanced marines you actualy play the game with.

And to whoever commented on the costs: WHen you have an empire of over a million planets working under a dictatorship, costs realy don't matter.

And just so everyone knows, I was joking about by nationstates army being space marines... :)
East Islandia
27-01-2005, 17:16
bump
Ut-Jor
27-01-2005, 18:14
Most Ut-Jor soldiers wear shades of gray, brown, and tan, reflecting the dry mountainous regions. We have ample camouflages for almost any environment, however.
Imperialized Democracy
27-01-2005, 19:08
We use digitally manipulated leds that will adopt whatever environment our wonderful troops may fall into. This allows us to continue our fight to democratize every non-free nation in all of NationStates.
Andians
27-01-2005, 21:55
My nation uses a pixel-mesh camo that fits over the soldier's armor. The camo works by having micro cameras in the back of the suit that will constantly record the background and project it onto thousands of pixels all over the suit. Each pixel will show a different color to show what is behind the soldier and make him/her blend in with the background.

The pixels also have the ability to deflect energy bolts and protect the user to a point, however, to not be destroyed in the process the damaged pixels shut down for a few minutes to recharge.

The suit is made of a durable, heat-resistant, flexable material to make a one-size-fits-all uniform, however, the more it expands, the further the pixels get from one another, the less effective it is.
Syskeyia
28-01-2005, 23:59
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sys_jungle_armor.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sys_desert_cammo.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sys_urban_cammo.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sys_mars_armor.gif
From left to right: Jungle/woodland, desert, urban, Mars
Isles of Wohlstand
29-01-2005, 03:19
This stuff I made myself, using Photoshop. Anywho, all I have is the woodland variant, but there are others. Notice the proper lighting on the comparisons between the camoflauge and the sorroundings. Also note, this camoflauge is 100% tileable, and does fit in a pattern...

Original:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/shellcase13/USSRcamoflauge.png

Comparisons between Camoflauge + Sorroundings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/shellcase13/camoexample1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/shellcase13/camoexample2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/shellcase13/camoexample3.png

Also, some special groups use just Black, Tan, or OD Green, such as special forces that really don't need camoflauge for their situations