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Introduction:

A wedding has been in preparation in Iuthia for sometime now as both Lord General James deGritz and his fiancee Liessa Valleron are to be married. Many events are set to happen after it, including meetings and the continued plot of my nations leader so I've been meaning to roleplay it for sometime as I've worked up to it in other threads. Mentioning it in the news, planning events after it and inviting some people to it.

I've left it for too long now, so I'm creating this OOC thread more or less explain the event rules and assumptions as well as to provide a thread to organise all the OOC concerns you may have during the thread.

Mostly these celebrations will be open to most foreign tourists, with the wedding itself being resistricted to well wishing diplomats from nations we feel we can trust, with Blacklisted nations being either denied entry or under heavy security measures.

Security for entering the nation over this period will be assumed to be much more tight then usual, with the security for the wedding itself being rather obcessive in comparison, to be further described later.


Background:

While it's not too important to understand the history of the event itself, some of you may find it useful to know a little about the wedding you are going to in order to IC represent research done on the subject.

The relationship itself has had little coverages on Iuthia's media stations, what little coverage the couple have gotten over time came from gossip magazines which are constantly on the prowl for the latest relationship information... however, when it finally got out there has been a little bit of a undercurrent of excitement for the interested citizens of Iuthia, happy to see their Lord General falling in love once more after he broke up with an Aerion princess some time ago.

That said, on a more diplomatic front the couple have both attended a few events themselves, mostly in places like Aerion and Biotopia for a wedding between a Knootian General and a Biotopian leader. Soon after their own plans for a wedding were announced and the Lord General got engaged to Liessa Valleron, an Elven television show presenter he had fallen in love with.

The engagement has made Iuthian national news, however it's been relatively unimportant on the international front, with exception to other nations keenly interested in Iuthian affairs... some events have been missed because of the wedding preparations and at times invitations for certain nations have been made in casual conversation.

Now the full wedding plans have been announced as the couple are to be wed in a historic Iuthian castle, probably one of the few remains of history left in existance in Iuthia due to a normally low priority for history preservation... thankfully this castle has had recent work on it especially for the occasion to include much better and up to date security, as well as to make it more comfortable and structurally sound.

For additional information feel free to read a little of the related threads are the bottom of this post.


OOC Details:

When I start the In Character thread... and it could take a while given my concentration on these kind of things, I won't expect the long drawn out process of asking of "requesting arrival" and landings and so on. Like in Nathicana's own celebrations I'll set the mood and we'll go on from there...

I'll admit that there will be some restrictions, however any problems about permission and so on will be resolved here where we can assume all the official channels were gone through quickly and get down to the facts. I'll list some of the assumptions I'll be making... if you are unsure about anything in for the IC thread, ask here to be safe:

Pretty much everyone is invited to participate on some level or other. There are however guidelines within this for obvious reasons as I would like to keep this thing simple.

If your government is not recognized by Iuthia officially (this does not mean ‘has not been introduced or has not had previous contact of course) then Official Delegates would not cleared to attend the wedding itself... most the nations who have poor relations with Iuthia know who they are, however if you are unsure then please check with me. Only in the most extreeme cases this can also stop anyone found to be of your nationality entering Iuthia at all. These nations probably know who they are...

The above comments noted; you don't have to play a representative of your nation. You can simply roleplay tourists coming over to enjoy the celebrations as Iuthia will be having something of a nationwide holiday with the big parties starting as the wedding itself is finished. Iuthia has few laws regarding drugs and public nudity and in the bigger cities you can expect some pretty wild carnival atmostpheres which will be oddly combining official looking military parades with a highly unusual party atmostphere where half the people could be wearing nothing but body paint decorated by LSD induced patterns. So you aren't limited to some diplomatic venture...

You can RP more then one character/plotline... though I'm hoping to keep this simple (I'm not trying to run something as complex and grand as Nathicana's celebrations).

Please also note that time is fluid... I'll probably push the threads time along with my own posts describing how things are going however this doesn't mean you have to drop what you are doing with others because something has started at an inconventient time. So move at your own pace and respond to things in your own time.

Like in Nathicana's celebrations, there are some important ground rules set up to encourage good RP etiquette and sanity in what I'm hoping will be a simple enough thread:

> No blowing up/bombing/wiping out the city.

> No mass extinction of large portions of the populace or foreign dignitaries.

> No bio/chemical/nuclear weapons unleashed here, in case the previous two were not clear enough

> Any political assassination attempts (or non-political come to think of it) need to be cleared with both myself, and the players involved in it. Ooc courtesy is encouraged here.

> Other dirty dealings including black ops and the like need to be cleared with both myself, and the players involved in it. See above.

> Weapons will not be allowed in secure areas which are defined as any location in Iuthia which has a high standard of security... areas not deemed secure in this manner require weapons to be concealed and no more powerful then your average sidearm and must be registered and checked by Iuthian security. Please note that the castle the wedding will be taking place in is concidered as "Secure" as you can get – Personal arms, bladed weapons, standard issue or traditional regalia for your nation may not fall under this rule as we understand that your cultural weapons are important to your culture. Such weapons would need to be cleared with our security and may require disabling if we don't trust such weapons... If you don't trust Iuthian security at a wedding for our own leader then you are welcome to not attend.

> Subtlety is encouraged. Obvious actions will have consequences. You start shooting out in the open, it will attract attention. Keep this fact in mind – security tends to be tight in the best of times. Security is going to be insane for this event given the potential for Bad Things ™ to happen.

> If you happen to run afoul of the Law, all my enforcers will be using weapons designed for stunning – in other words, non-lethal force will be used first. My advice – if you get shot, stay down. All that will happen to your character, diplomatic or otherwise, unless we cannot find out your nation of origin, will be a speedy deportation and some words with your government over the issue. If you get caught in something bigger, say, an assassination attempt on a foreign diplomat on our soil, you will be detained and your nation contacted. This sort of situation would be something for a later rp. For clarification, I will not be trying to outright kill your characters without prior ooc discussion with you. If you insist on continuing to cause problems (I’m thinking the Winter Ball incident with flying God-Emperors and the like springs to mind) then my Black Vipers will shoot to kill, no more questions asked, if the situation warrants it. This only after clear warnings – word to the wise.

> If you run into trouble with Iuthia characters not enforcing the law, no such guarantees are offered, though as noted, this thread is for working out those little problems. I still insist I will not be ‘gunning’ for people’s characters – that isn’t my goal for this thread. Screw up badly enough, and the likelihood of survival or evading damage drops significantly. Play it smart, and you’ll be surprised what you can get away with.

> As thread originator, I reserve the right to eject troublemakers, to have offensive or inappropriate posts removed, to be the final arbiter in any conflicts that players cannot take care of themselves (no bitchfesting, please – with something this open obviously I prefer you settle your differences without my involvement, unless it’s me you’re arguing with, in which case I hope we can come to an accord with minimum snarkiness). In other words, oocly I’m taking the place of GM here, house rules apply, and all decisions are final. I’m not a hard core game nazi, and I want to encourage players to have fun with this and be creative, but some sense of order has to be maintained. That is, after all, the whole point of doing this.

Ignores and the such:

There are only a few nations which I outright ignore which simply cannot take part in this thread... I usually don't ignore people but I made a exception for players which seriously annoyed me out of character. I'm assuming they know who they are so I won't mention them here.

On a note of nations ignoring one another in the thread. If someone ignores you - don't force your character into interaction with them - it's rude. If you ignore someone - ignore them, don't make snide remarks IC to be snarky about it. Ignoring after all, means to you - they do not exist. Please act in accordance with that.

Final Note:

I won't be starting this for sometime, so you have a while to sort things out... so far I think there will be a few interested who get on with my on IRC, though I'm not expecting this to be huge and I hope it won't be too disapointing when I try and get it started.

I know I've copied alot of the provisions and comments from Nathi's OOC Celebrations thread, though I'm sure she'll understand that such a thread had alot of influence on how I would like to run my own... call it recognisation of her thread's success.

Related Threads:

OOC Guide to Iuthia (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362603)
INN Report: Lord General deGritz Engaged. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7587518&postcount=10)
Celebrity Gossip!: Leissa Valleron (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343536)
Tourists Review of Iuthia (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7221465&postcount=2)

I suggest you have this as the signup/ooc/suggestion thread.

OOC

Venue ... pick some big grandious palace or something. One with lots of fancy decorations to describe (and some history).

Invitations ... I would pick only allies and other nations I know. Sometimes newcomers confuse things (especially if not accustomed to RPing)

Celebrations (based on Roanian weddings)
* Arrivals
* Pre-wedding parties
* The wedding
* Post wedding happenings

Diplomacy ... keep things diplomatic and no death/destruction unless you want that. Allow the usual goings ons ... flirting, rivalries, etc

I suggest you have this as the signup/ooc/suggestion thread.
Er... isn't that kinda what it is?

Anyway, while I think about it I would like to get an idea of interested nations, perhaps answer some questions, sort out issues before they arrise and generally prepare to RP something I feel I should have done a while ago...
Thanks for the advice, I suppose I didn't make it clear but the OOC organisation shouldn't be too much of a concern, it's more about how I'm going to go about the actual thing... I have some ideas but for now I'm just getting names of those interested and taking some suggestions as I work out how I'm going to do it.


So far I've already figured there will be a nationwide celebration, pretty public so only normal travel restrictions would apply (look at the OOC guide thread, basically the only nations which would have trouble would be those I really have issues with).

Meanwhile the wedding itself... I'm trying to figure if it's public or private, along with the kind of diplomatic involvement with the wedding itself.

OOC: If I were doing this, the first place I'd check is Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org), which has information on just about everything, and go from there. Naturally the standard civilian wedding is going to be somewhat different from one for a head of state, but there's probably information on royal marriages in the past. Somewhere.

Now, here's my thoughts on some of the questions you've raised below;

Should it be open to all well wishing diplomats? Should it be restricted to invited allies only? I suppose this depends how many allies you've got, really - Nathicana got a large and interesting turnout for her coronation thread by essentially throwing it open. Then again, if you've got a lot of allies, you may wish to reduce it, I don't know. The level of national paranoia probably plays a part, as do the happy couple's wishes - they may want a "small" ceremony.

Where is it to be held? I'd say that depends on several things. If you've got a major state religion, or one that the government or the people involved supports, you'll probably want some kind of theocratic structure - it could be a small local parish to a cathedral, depending on how much pomp and circumstance you want. Or, if the government is avowedly secular (as is mine), you may want to find some secular building, a town hall or something.

What are the celebrations like... This part probably depends the most on your culture. Tsaraine would have practically none. Given your militaristic society, I'd say you're going to have to have a parade in there somewhere. Given that Iuthia has tropical bits, you could even have elephants in your parade! Leftovers of the War Elephant Battalions or something, I don't know.

Also check out some of the older wedding threads and be sure to invite a lot of recurring characters.

In the last post, I meant to say to invite my President.

Should it be open to all well wishing diplomats? Should it be restricted to invited allies only? Well, like I said the overall celebrations will be something of a tourist attraction and there is little stopping Diplomats from enjoying themsevles during that time.

However, as to the actual wedding and it's open/closed nature... thats something I'll need time on. I know enough well wishing nations to possible just invite certain nations and still get a good turn out.

I'm not looking for something as grand as Nathicana's thread, which was a real project on her part, something she put alot of effort into to provide a campaign almost. She's still working on it today. Though you can be certain that I'll be looking at her thread as an example of how to run a successful celebration.

So I think I'll leave this one for a while, it's likely that the wedding may be open to a wide variety of diplomats one way or the other... so it's something i can leave for now and judge depending on the interest shown.


Where is it to be held? Iuthia's government is rather secular in a sence. They don't mind religion being practiced though it's concidered a private thing and doesn't recieive any tax breaks or funding from the government. James himself is human and agnostic, not really the one to concider religion as too important. Meanwhile Liessa is an elf who is also agnostic; her culture may play a part in a wedding, but it's likely that they will go with whatever looks nice, probably not a church, perhaps something like a Castle would be fitting for a Lord General like James. It has defence value and it's romantic.

What are the celebrations like? Most likely to be very lively... I've concidered military parades and I should probably have a few in several cities across the nation. The people love a good parade and it fits with Iuthia's preferences. Aside from parades however, one also has to remember that Iuthia has pretty much no nudity laws and little in the way of drug control... it could end up starting with a military parade followed by something closer to carnivals and partying in the streets with body art being popular.

It's going to need more thought really.

Thanks everyone for your input so far, I'm going to see if I can't get some sleep and thanks again.

In the last post, I meant to say to invite my President.

The man who threatened to "Glass" Iuthia, a substantially larger militant nation with strong connections worldwide and a excellent reputation for peaceful diplomacy?

Well... it would depend on whether I decided to limit the guests actually attending the wedding. A loose cannon like your President could be concidered a security risk.

Well, sometimes threats are needed to get a point across...lol

Yeah, sometimes threats are an excellent ways of making another government react in the manner which best suits you... however in this case you simply managed to show insecurity and possibly endanger your nation by making yourself look like an aggressive nation which would start a war over little more then a comment you should be able to handle.

The perfect reply would have been to joke about it in a clear manner so you didn't look concerned and simply ignore the comment. Afterall, he knows he's not gay and it's only a opinion of some other jerk from another nation... it's not worth getting riled over.

Anyways, I won't continue along that line for much longer; the point is simple... everything has consquences, I doubt that your president be too pleased to hear that Iuthia wanted to send someone over as a suitable mate for your President; I didn't have Iuthia get involved because I figured they would remember our mocking comments... the consquence of our actions. If we wanted in I imagine an apology would have been needed in order for me to get anywhere... so yeah, it doesn't take much imagination to guess that we wouldn't be impressed with any diplomat you sent unless we felt reparations were made.

In a OOC manner; there is no problem between us... I feel you acted a little silly IC but then again I like being a bastard IC, it's something I've gotten good at...

Should it be open to all well wishing diplomats? Should it be restricted to invited allies only?

perhaps let diplomatics attended the celebrations and such but only a few attended the actual wedding.

Where is it to be held?
I think a castle would be a good choice given all the decorations and fancy things you can do with it.

What are the celebrations like?
maybe declare a holiday so the people do not have to work, a large feast ?

Just an fyi, I did that IC thing to try and provoke a war. I didn't care if it was against Max Barry, I was bored and wanted a war. You were a suitable target, and the threat of nuclear war might have provoked you enough. lol. ICly, inviting my President here might just start as a bridge between our two countries.

Perhaps let diplomatics attended the celebrations and such but only a few attended the actual wedding.

Yeah, I think something like that would easily be possible, though certain nations which are blacklisted would need to have their people make special arrangements as they are generally shunned from Iuthia by association with a nation we would like nothing to do with... though it depends on the nation, some nations wouldn't be so bad and we have interests in seeing if they have made any effort to improve.

Again, it's something I'll think over depending on possible turnout.

ICly, inviting my President here might just start as a bridge between our two countries.

Indeed, though it would require a little work from yourselves in order to make it seem like it's worth our time... don't get me wrong, Iuthia is all for diplomat relations but we don't work as hard to build relations with nations which have shown "undesirable" qualities.

I can understand why you reacted that way, but I tend to be something of a fan of diplomacy, which comes across in the way I react IC in the way I do... to RP the diplomatic consquences of actions. For now don't worry about it too much, it's a IC problem to be sorted out when it comes... I'll figure you are interested in the thread when I get around to figuring out what I want to do.

Well... Edölia will certainly be sending a representative (assuming that you allow us). Most likely, it will be the daughter of the Impërator, Flavia von Blätterschplitt. Some of her children could come along for the ride as well. I'm imagining that Iuthia will be the place to be for hedonistic revels, and young Edolian aristocrats would feel right at home.

As for everything else... I would imagine that what you do should depend on your characters' personalities. You say that the bride is an elf. Is it significant that the Lord General is marrying a non-human? If so, then you would want to have the wedding ceremony reflect her heritage, and especially reflect a mixture between the two cultures (human and elf).

Well... Edölia will certainly be sending a representative, assuming that you allow us...

Heh, even if I wanted it to be allies only your people would be welcome, Edolia. We can't forget about our roots and we trust our Edolian friends rather well... even if we don't call as often as we should.

As for the significance of an Elf marrying a Human, well it's not too uncommon in Iuthia and elves have much less of their original culture in Iuthia then they would in most other Elven nations due to the social engineering process... however it is the first time the Lord General of Iuthia has chosen a metahuman to be his wife, if only because Elves and others haven't been around long enough to get the chance to be married to one.

Some of the Elven side my come out during the wedding, though Liessa Valleron is a traditional Iuthian, her parents are Iuthian and so is she so the significance of Elven culture is much less then normal. Iuthian culture would dominate.

Just as an FYI, CM...

IC actions for OOC reasons (even boredom) is generally looked down upon on NationStates. It's generally considered to be exceptionally childish.

MGH, I know. Here's my definition of boredom: At an Uncle's lake house, can't shoot his guns due to no legal shooting range, can't go on the Jet Skis due to me not having my boating safety card and being pulled over last time, and the water's too cold to swim. I needed something to occupy me and I hadn't had a good war in over a month and a half.

Iuthia, I'll work on possibly apoligising for threatening to nuke you. Of course, it'll come from ableeding heart liberal in Congress who's later impeached and/or shot...lol

MGH, I know. Here's my definition of boredom: At an Uncle's lake house, can't shoot his guns due to no legal shooting range, can't go on the Jet Skis due to me not having my boating safety card and being pulled over last time, and the water's too cold to swim. I needed something to occupy me and I hadn't had a good war in over a month and a half.And for this you harrass another nation in the hopes of eliciting negative attention so you can get your RAWR-on? Then wonder why Iuthia describes your actions as "silly" and Hack describes you as "childish?"

Iuthia has not, to my knowledge, been one to randomly engage in war just because the opportunity presents itself. Okay, wargamers like to wage war, that's fine. But if you're that bored, surely you can take the time to do a tiny bit of research and pick your targets a little more carefully. I think you're exceptionally lucky that Iuthia isn't like a lot of his other allies who would simply pat you on the head and suggest you go play with your toys.

lol

Look, if you knew me, then you'd know I'm itching to go off to war, no matter the enemy. The odds at Thermopalye pass (from the Spartain side) seems pretty to me...

Iuthia, I'll work on possibly apoligising for threatening to nuke you. Of course, it'll come from ableeding heart liberal in Congress who's later impeached and/or shot...lol

Well... assuming your President wants to be respected at all he would have to appease us himself with apologies and explainations for what was perceived as terrible international diplomacy. Otherwise the only man getting respect is the man who apologised, and he isn't the one interested in coming.

That said, looking at this thread it's hard to tell who would be certain to come... I know I have a fair few friendly nations I could coax into this, though I'm happy enough with it being a small event if it comes to that, mostly this is something I have to do for myself, the more fun the better.

I think that on a diplomatic scale the celebrations themselves, which would include a more secure area for diplomats, are open to diplomats from any nation which hasn't earned a bad name in Iuthia (read: potential security risk). Some delegates of nations we have poor relations with may be permitted in an attempt to see if they have improved...

I'll edit this thread when I'm less tired to start working on the basic rules and description of Iuthia...

We'd be interesting in sending people. Though, technically you have had no previous contact with our central government that I remember.

We'd be interesting in sending people. Though, technically you have had no previous contact with our central government that I remember.

We've met with one or two characters from the past and we've sent diplomats to conferences you've ran on elves (even though I didn't really put much work in once it started) so we've had some contact.

We also get good references from our allies about you. So no worries.

Some delegates of nations we have poor relations with may be permitted in an attempt to see if they have improved...


I assume you mean me. How about we ask to come where President Kowalski will apoligise in person.

Bump for a HUGE edit of the first post better describing the thread...

And CM, that would make some sense but security around your guy would be obcene because we don't have any reason to trust you.

Count me in. Weddings are fun ^_^

Bump for a HUGE edit of the first post better describing the thread...

And CM, that would make some sense but security around your guy would be obcene because we don't have any reason to trust you.
lol...same thing happened at the Comm. Miss.-TBD wedding a few months back. My guy was carrying a miniature arsenal. We'll only request three bodyguards with pistols as protection, and they won't even go within a large area of the country.

My guy was carrying a miniature arsenal. We'll only request three bodyguards with pistols as protection, and they won't even go within a large area of the country.

No guns... you're Government threatened Iuthia in a reckless manner over little more then a petty comment. Meanwhile I've already noted that guns are not to be permitted to a wedding for my leader... you either trust our security, or you don't attend at all. We have an excellent reputation for our respectful nature towards diplomats, it's almost insulting to wear weapons to our leaders wedding because you feel you may be threatened.

ok, no guns...what about pocket knives under 3 inches?
lol

Forget about it... you're missing the point and it's clear you don't want to be serious about it. So just have your man continue to look for a wife in his own nation and contact us IC if you honestly give a damn.

I was just joking. And we will ICly contact you.

First post editted to change the rules regarding weapons. Afterall, security cannot be assured across all of Iuthia so some protection is permitted outside of secure areas... that said, only the most trusted would be permitted to carry a weapon at the wedding itself and only has a cultural item which may be asked to be made safe depending on our trust for you.

You don't have to all tell me what you are bringing so long as you are reasonable and don't take the piss with it. Remember that firearms are illegal in Iuthia and this is part of the reason we prefer them to be concealed in holsters on your security...

I'm assuming that the people who are bringing armed security to protect their delegates will have followed proceedure and will not need to RP their the registration of the weapon because it would have been assumed to have happened. Anyone bringing a weapon into Iuthia who isn't registering it should RP it because it's would be concidered a crime... if your men are caught with an unregistered weapon then they will be arrested and ejected from the nation along with their delegation with a formal complaint.

I'm also assuming the only weapons we'll allow you to register are side arms with relatively low power. All explosives/grenades are automatically denied, as are energy weapons such as phasers, lasers and plasma weapons... obviously armour is permitted. Energy shields are most likely denied unless you can prove to me they can't be used offencively...

Basically... don't take the piss. Just because I'd rather not RP through the registration doesn't mean you can register an arsenal and get away with it. Anything out of the ordinary which you want to incist on can be discussed in IC diplomatic communication... you can do it here and now or at the start of the IC thread, I don't mind either.

Diplomatic immunity is not granted to everyone entering Iuthia... Diplomats/leaders and representatives from other nations are given assurances that your people will be expelled from Iuthia if they are caught doing anything which offends us... we aren't about to damage our reputation by doing anything to a diplomat. However, if someone is a serious threat to the safety of our people we will act as we see fit... prefering to capture them alive but we won't hesitate to shoot to kill if it's the only way of resolving a situation.

When entering a secure area you will be asked to either leave security behind or have them turn in all weapons, we won't resort to physical searches unless we have good reason to do so, though non-invasive scanners will be present in buildings enterances along with security check points and so on.


To be honest... I trust I don't have to say this to most players... I just feel I should say it anyways for those who don't really understand that we aren't comfortable with guns.

Update: Due to many events happening at this time which indirectly involve me I've been caught up in finishing affairs in those threads before advancing this one... I still intend to RP this because it's an important event for me to get over with for Plot Progression (tm) so I'll get around to it when stuff cools down a bit or if I get suddenly inspired.

Just a question here, concerning species. My main character, Kain Brightblade Shentavo, a vampire, would wish to attend. What would be the goverment's policy on that? Kain's track record has been very peaceful, apart from anti-vampire organisations. In fact, his nation has only had civil wars, no outward wars. Velmora is rather reclused, and rather secretive, so not much is known about them.

Just curious. Kain is green by the way, and has talons. He *does* look scary, but he is a nice chap really once you get to know him. But, just wondering if you would allow a vampire in, ICly?

Vampires are not forbidden in Iuthia... afterall our relations with such beings have been good, though Rave's people did damage a few relations slightly when we were shouted at for losing her leader when she didn't even tell us she was coming.

I imagine Vampires, not being citizens as that would require going through the complusory service, are tracked because they lack citizenship and don't require weapons like others.

In Kains case I would have to concider exactly where I should draw the line... if at all. He should be trust worthy and we've got on with him in the past. But still we've got to deal with the basic nature of what you are bringing.

While I'm not opposed to powerful magic characters or the sort... I would like people who incist on such characters to concider that many guests, who are more realistic in their characters, may ignore you. If that is the case do not force yourself on them.

Please remember that this is my thread... which means magic and other unnatural issues may fall under my rules. I can't change what you are... but I can interpret how your powers work to my people and ulimately Iuthia has it's own resistance and measures against such things. Pshysic Attacks come under the same rules for physical attacks... you need OOC permission from all parties invovled for it to suceed.

Also remember this is a wedding, or the celebration of a wedding. I don't expect combat of any sort and should it occur it I want it to be carefully done so not to distrupt the thread from it's main perpose.

Basically, just show some concideration and you'll be fine...

Of course. My writing style and roleplaying style now favoured realism. Magic is rarely used by Kain in such peaceful situations, and his character is well developed. Do not worry, I don't think anyone will have any problems with the way I roleplay and act, and Kain will rarely use magic at all. Vampiric abilities will just be subtle and not dominating.

Don't worry about it, I know your concerns I feel, and I will look forward to this rp. :)

To be blunt, security demands that "rarely use magic" is in actual fact "never use magic". Iuthia is, when you get down to it's core, a military nation. Given that we are very security concious and we don't know anything about magic, anything magical or out of the ordinary could be a threat... so any magic would be like walking on a knife edge, especially given that the Iuthian people are not like normal people when it comes to ability to resist magic. Healing spells still work, but they take more effort and they can hurt... (afterall, putting bones back in place or similar would hurt logically, even if it is fixing the problem) something which a medic wouldn't trust if the patient is screaming in agony.

You'll be given IC instructions along the lines of "act normal, don't do anything to out of the ordinary"... while James may trust you, others may not and Iuthian's don't trust outsiders as much as they trust fellow Iuthians... Kain is green so he's "very outsider".

This isn't to say that the Iuthian people are racist as such... Iuthia's society is very open. Though part of that is because an Iuthian citizen, reguardless of his shape, is a Iuthian citizen.

Hmm... Interesting... I haven't participated in this diplomatic/wedding/celebration-type things since Aelosia's 1 billion party... Gotta come and join.

The only problem is that the guy I'm probably going to send has been badly scarred and disfigured by an infamous incident in my nation's history. He's named Shalzar Ezekiel and was a former military officer in my country's military. He is a cyborg, as he lost both arms and one of his legs in the incident as well as one eye and both ears. The other idiosynrasy is that he is very religious and a follower of the Deism.

Will he be welcome in your nation?

Will he be welcome in your nation?

Nation... perhaps. Wedding... well, we would prefer that event to me more for Iuthia and trusted nations, 5CN is a bit of a uncertain on that point.

Thats said, the wedding itself wouldn't have as many diplomatic possibilities as the celebrations afterwards, which are much more open then the wedding and would be a great opportunity for nations diplomats to mingle.

I'm still concidering the weddings plans, I've got a basic structure worked out but it's all about the details now which I concider important. Due to the fact my allies seem interested in this affair, I would prefer the wedding to be more secure with a open celebration for diplomatic concerns afterward...

As for cybernetics... we can passively search them with cyberware detectors which have been developed for our own nations growing cyberware industry. Security is going to be tight around the Lord General and his wife for good reasons.

Meh... I knew that was going to occur... However, aren't our interactions primarily OOC? I don't think we have interacted ICly...

Meh... I knew that was going to occur... However, aren't our interactions primarily OOC? I don't think we have interacted ICly...I believe that would be why your character wouldn't be present at the wedding proper. He's keeping it largely in the family, as it were.

That actually wouldn't be true, Treznor. From my knowledge, Velmora aka Kain Irenicus, has also never interacted with Iuthia, but is going to be at the wedding/celebrations.

That actually wouldn't be true, Treznor. From my knowledge, Velmora aka Kain Irenicus, has also never interacted with Iuthia, but is going to be at the wedding/celebrations.

Then your knowledge would be wrong.

Observe:

You'll be given IC instructions along the lines of "act normal, don't do anything to out of the ordinary"... while James may trust you, others may not and Iuthian's don't trust outsiders as much as they trust fellow Iuthians... Kain is green so he's "very outsider".

Kain knows my leader personally... the bugger was in his head once. Yeah, the thread it happened in is probably a year old but it doesn't change the fact that he knows my leader personally.

Meanwhile he's kinda restricted because of what he is. Also note I said "probably not" to the wedding, not the celebrations afterwards. You aren't restricted from the thread, just the Wedding, which I don't intend to have dominating the thread.

I stand corrected.

IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=400220)

Thanks for the heads-up.