NationStates Jolt Archive

"The Chair recognises the Commonwealth of Chimaea."

Ambassador Blackwell stood up and adjusted the angle of his microphone.

"Thank you, Mr. President.

"Fellow nations, it is with great concern that the Commonwealth of Chimaea must report on a serious matter that has played itself out during the conflict between the Reich delegate nation of Vegana and the Republic of Syskeyia, which is raging as we speak.

"The war itself is brutal and violent, with the usual Reich disregard for human rights, the Geneva Conventions and specifically their treatment of innocent civilians, as has been tabled in the General Assembly before now. Already we are investigating human rights abuses that have filtered down to us. We have lodged formal complaints with the relevant authorities concerned where these reports can be verified.

"However, the Nation of Vegana has been responsible for another breach of international law, which is its responsibility to uphold as a United Nations member nation and especially as a delegate for an entire region.

"A few days ago, Chimaean Naval Forces were travelling along the Gulf of Syskeyia. At a certain depths and locations the Chimaean fleet encountered what appears to be, fellow nations, biological weapons that the Nation of Vegana has unleashed with the intent to destroy and contaminate any vessel in the Gulf. This is clearly a danger to civilian shipping as well as the ships of various Aid and humanitarian agencies which have expressed an interest in providing assistance to Syskeyia, and in the case of the Red Cross to Vegana as well, during this conflict. This is in direct contradiction with Resolution 16, passed on the 31st of May, 2003, by this General Assembly.

"Vegana holds a position of authority in the United Nations by having delegate status for the Reich, yet their government and military blatantly ignores our noble efforts at achieving a civilised and peaceful world! They are waging a dirty war on flimsy grounds which has resulted in the death and destruction of civilian lives and infrastructure. Chimaea notes that this seems quite like an attempt at genocide.

"We therefore most strongly condemn Vegana's actions in the Gulf and in Benedictia; not only are they against human rights but also against the resolutions of an organisation which they're a part of! We urge all UN members to therefore freeze any assets belonging to Vegana and aid the war effort against the actions of their bloodthirsty government.

"Thank you for your time."


[OOC: Just having a bit of fun. Haven't done one of these threads in yonks. Btw, before anyone comments, the speaker of the General Assembly is called the "President".]

... between the Reich delegate nation of Vegana and the Syskeyia, which is raging as we speak.

OOC: "The" Syskeyia? I take it you mean "the Republic of Syskeyia" or just plain "Syskeyia," right? :)

He rose from his seat in the back benches, a small trickle of sweat speeding down his spine. He was not used to do speeches here, his normal task was sitting on the bench shouting and banging a shoe on his desk. He knew that Vegana didn't really prioritize The UN, so few of the nations did. He only got this job because of his uncles contacts in the government, it had seemed such a nice soft job and now this! Well he had a prepared statement.

Brothers and Sisters of the international Community. During a long time the Reich has been assaulted and slandered by enemies and less stand up members of the international Community. We have stand up against bigger nations such as Menelmacar and Knootoss when they openly have disregarded this chamber. WE have endured international terrorism in our own nation, countless attacks on our dignity and now these blatant lies! The nation of Chimaea, an old ally to Syskeyia, claims that we are breaking international law and they use their old dishonourable tactics, claiming that we are evil and do things to harm humanity without even a single shard of proof. You people fear the truth as a cat fears water. I have to ask you, where is your evidence!?

We have evidence of numerous intervention in our national politics and in Reich homeland security. WE have proof of nations supporting terrorism within our borders. WE also still have the issue about the Syskeyian Embassy, where several nations came to the defense of Syskeyians, among them armed terrorists trying to attack the court. How do Syskeyia explain these ties? Syskeyia is one of the Axis of evil in the world, they shot down unarmed exploration vessels over international waters. If Chimaea claims that the debris of those vessels should be called biological weapons then maybe Chimaea should oversee their own research in that area. Those remains, created by Syskeyia in the first place is no more weapons than the oil spill from an innocent passenger boat, sunk by terrorists would be a biological weapon.

Once again the enemies of the Reich shows their ugly snout. Apparently you think you can push people around in whatever way you like, but I tell you! That ends here! No more of your lies! We will stand up against these ongoing provocations, Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. WE will apprehend the terrorists in what they thought would be a safe haven for them to plan new attacks on The Reich, and they WILL pay the ultimate price for their crimes!

Monsignor Hugh de la Morée, Pantocratoria's ambassador to the United Nations, rose to speak.

"Mr Speaker, honoured delegates," he started. "It seems to me that a very serious charge has been laid against Vegana. I support the Veganan delegate's call for evidence. This is a very serious matter, and the United Nations should start a full investigation into the activities of Veganan military assets in Syskeyian territory. The only way I believe this can be accomplished is through the United Nations sending observers to collect evidence first hand, from the field. That way there could be no accusations of bias!"

"Mr Speaker, if Ambassador Blackwell's accusations are true, then the government of Vegana has demonstrated a total disregard for the resolutions of this assembly, a total disregard for human rights." he continues. "The United Nations should send observers to investigate his accusations. If they find that Vegana and her allies are violating the conventions and resolutions of these United Nations, then the General Assembly should consider taking appropriate disciplinary action. The UN needn't take the word of Syskeyia's allies - it can see these alledged violations for itself."

OOC: "The" Syskeyia? I take it you mean "the Republic of Syskeyia" or just plain "Syskeyia," right? :)

shhh. Don't tell anyone. :D I'll fix it after I post this.

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Ambassador Blackwell swept a hand through his iron-grey hair and shook his head impatiently.

"The fact that various vessels in the First Fleet were damaged to varying degrees -- documented, photographed damage -- gives the lie to Vegana's statements. We have underwater radar and sonar readings as well as video to support our claims; we shall be releasing this material shortly.

"Our evidence is in the water, Mr. Ambassador, and while these bio-weapons have the ability to self-destruct, evidence still remains of their presense. Hardly the debris from broken up vessels, I think. There is no way that any rational being could believe debris could explode upon contact with well-armoured vessels.

"Vegana talks of terrorism? I'm surprised how quickly the Ambassador has forgotten Sir Scott, a Chimaean diplomat, released a broken man after two weeks of illegal captivity in the Reich, after the witch-hunt of a trial where logic and due process were discarded in favour of medieval judgement. Need I remind the Assembly of the internationally broadcasted trial where defence counsels were killed on camera? For shame, for shame!

"Chimaea seconds Ambassador de la Morée's suggestion of an independant U.N. investigation of this and other atrocities committed in Syskeyia by Reich forces. In these dark days there must be at least some justice given to those who have no voice and those who are 'dissappeared' in the night in the name of fascism and totalitarianism!"

The North star delegate at the U.N barely needed to listen to follow what the coward western nations had to say.
When he at last spoke, Mular Kazaf launched into a defence of his reich brother.
"typical lies from the former s.a.t.o cowards. what they couldnt achieve through arms they now try and gain through lies!
The islamic realm totally supports our brother Vegana in all his actions.God honor and bless jaar for leading them to such greatness!
The more we hear these lies being spread, the more we are tempted to give brother jaar more troops and aid! clearly he must be doing the work of God if the filthy dogs oppose him"

"Mr President, fellow delegates, Pantocratoria was never a SATO member. We have presented nothing to be labelled lies or truth. We simply ask that independent investigators be sent to Syskeyia to investigate these claims! Surely, if there is nothing going on there, then Vegana wouldn't object to the investigators being sent!" insisted Monsignor de la Morée.

He stepped up again, watching the faces around him, feeling a little bit more sure of himself.

"Of course we wouldn't mind independent investigators. But how will you guarantee their independence? Even If Pantocratoria never was a SATO member, didn't they still support the Syskeyian Aggression that lead to the Eurusean response? Now Chimaea blames us for mines in the Syskeyian Gulf, well, did you find mines with our names on them? I assure you that if we mined the gulf you would experience more than documented damage.

Oh, Vegana Welcomes an independent investigation. We welcome it! We just dont want to end up with more terrorists supporting the terrorists already inside Syskeyia. Chimaea talks about Sir Scott, for those who doesn't know he was a lawyer admitted to defend the killing of thousands of innocent civilians by armed Syskeyian military in the St. Dominic Embassy. He brought with him Nephilim murderers that almost succeeding in killing the honourable judges, and this they did in front of the world! We now know that Sir Scott was under Nephilim influence and cant be entirely blamed since this was another evil scheme performed by the harlot. We welcome independent observers, but we wont allow more murderers into the streets. Don't forget that the Reich is by far the safest region in the world, we wont even comment on Chimaeas weak attempt on bad mouthing our judicial system that has proven superior.

We would allow observers to enter the city of Bendecitia, but we reserve the right to Veto any nations that sends emissaries there, no more will we accept aid to the terrorists. These emissaries will see that the people of Bendecitia fares no harm, and that order is restored to the streets. Any emissaries not agrred on by us cant have their safety guaranteed, and if they enter the warzone they will be treated as hostile elements.

Sileärnil of the Knootian UN office* stood up outraged, the tall Elvish presence with long blond hair towering high above the other delegates.

"Mr. President, how dares the Vegana representative slander the mighty Elentári and the Lady of the Light! How dare he blame the ‘west’ when his very own nation is at this very moment violating not only the technicalities but the very spirit of this House! Mr. President, the South Atlantic Treaty Organisation in the past and the VERITAS members now have always stood for the proper execution of the values embodied in the UN Charter. The words of the Vegana delegation to shift any discussion of blame on us is outrageous and I move that they be stricken from the record!"

He streched out his arms in a grand gesture. "The fascist and malevolent Reich stands here before the world as an abomination of respect for sentient rights. And this man would call upon the record of his own mock-trials in his own defence?! These trials themselves were violations of the very spirit I just spoke of."

He paced back and forth in front of the pulpit , subconsciously echoing the deeper voice of the Vegana representative: "Vegana Welcomes an independent investigation indeed. Just as its allies in Iesus 'welcomed' Knootian special envoys to its prisons! Just as Vegana welcomed Syskeyian embassy personnel to its death! Just as they welcome my Kin to their torture chambers!"

He paused, looking around sternly.
"Mr. President, we strongly condemn Vegana's actions in the Gulf and in Benedictia, and therefore the Prime Minister herself has decided that a study group will be set up to look into the possibility of potential sanctions!"

He left the stand, his head held high.

"Well that was an anticlimax", one of the attachés giggled.

"A *study* into the *possibility* of *potential* sanctions?", one of the UN delegates from some random Dutchspeaking nation (the Knootian had not bothered to check) noted.

"Yeah. Well... no idea how they came to that stand.", the Knootian replied somewhat irritated at the inquisitive woman. "Here, have a Pink Bunny Cola. You'll like it. Its sold everywhere. Even in Vegana."

*Decidedly not a UN member. Chosen the Siri-construct Vegana mentioned in order to be able to be in the Red Cross and do this sort of stuff.

Taking a break from his duties in the United Nations legislative forum, the ambassador from the Confederated City States of Mikitivity listens to the points brought forward by several nations. Sensing a short pause in the floor debates, the ambassador quickly adjusts his vest and then addresses the assembly,

"Honored ambassadors, while the use of biological weapons in any water body is cause for great concern, before this body actually condemns any acts violating international law, my government would recommend that both sides have a chance to explain things. Furthermore, my government would be willing to send third party investigators under the auspieces of an ad hoc uni-lateral investigating panel into this particular incident.

"As for the role of the International Red Cross Organization, as one of the primary funding authorities of the international organization, my government would ask that the valued organization be allowed to stick to its primary mission: offering disaster relief, as was spelled out in the resolution the IRCO, adopted by this assembly 2003.09.01.

"If the members of this body believe we need a separate panel to investigate specific charges related to the deployment or development of bio-logical weapons, I would ask that we task the UN legislative forum to draft a new UN committee with the sole task of inspecting and investigating charges associated with bio-weapons.

"I do not come to this assembly with this request lightly, as all weapons of mass destruction are in the view of my government an unacceptable danger to us all, but due to the political nature of their popularity, I'd hate to see the functioning and resources of a purely humanitarian organization like the IRCO to become hampered by the types of political arguments that currently characterize the UN's activities in promoting global disarmament.

A tall, handsome human with almost Elvish perfection addressed the house. Obviously the product of Isaxu genetic manipulation.

"Mr President..."
He cleared his voice and spoke with a deep, melodious and powerfully clear eloquence.

"I, the Isaxu Theocratic Order representative call upon the right honourable Knootian representative to refrain from judging the Reich upon past indiscretions. Whether or not VERITAS, SATO or the Reich have honoured or have violated the principles of this organisation in the past is in itself a subjective point which should be deemed irrelevent in the context of this international forum.
What the council has convened here for is the present determination of Veganan guilt regarding the illicit use of Biological Weapons in violation of Resolution #16. I move that all delegates stick to the point and avoid biased and unhelpful ideological argument in favour of a constructive, objective and focused analysis of the facts.
A non-respect for human rights is not in itself a precursor to the possession of illicit materials. I am sure that our good Knootian and Chimaean friends with their full-hearted 'support' for human rights have their own stocks of such weapons, though they are perhaps smart enough to hide them better."

He smiled, he enjoyed ridiculing the other members....

‘The Chair Recognises the Representative from the All Powerful Divine Domain of Lord Atum the Great, Glorious Overlord of One Hundred Worlds.’

A collective sigh went up from the members of the chamber who were familiar with the strident rantings of Lord Jevah, the representative of the Goa’uld System Lord – and to some extent, by extension, the entire System Lord Collective – Atum. Some people could be seen excusing themselves and bustling out for snacks. Jevah ignored them, there were petty humans, and not worthy of his attention.

“The nation of Syskeyia is unworthy!” he shouted, “to draw breath!” He let the first sentence sink into the room, “Syskeyia has been defeated in war! Defeat is weakness, and weakness is death! That the rightful conquerors of Syskeyia have not yet exercised their rights of conquest and removed the population into slavery is a mercy!

“We should not concern ourselves with the sufferings of the Syskeyians! They are a devout people! Who follow a false god! Unlike our glorious Lord Atum, however, their god cannot help them! This body should not concern itself with the wellbeing of the Syskeyians! They have brought their sufferings upon themselves through gross stupidity and folly!

“I say that this august body should not just ‘turn a blind eye’ to the activities of the conquerors of Syskeyia, but nay, we should encourage them to make an example of the Syskeyians! To the last child!

“The United Nations should not send representatives to investigate these abuses of so called human rights,” he pointed to the nearest copy of the UN seal, “we should instead be sending a committee to congratulate the victors!” his finger pointed to the Veganan delegate, and his fist slammed the desk, his eyes flashing an unsettling white for a moment, “Let us not focus on the weak! Let this body reward the strong, and let the rightful ignominy and shame of the abhorred fall upon the weak!”

Jevah sat, and smirked at the slow head shaking of the delegate next to him. Fools.

"One wonders why, Mr President and my honoured delegates, Lord Atum even bothers sending a representative to the United Nations." Monsignor de la Morée complains. "I direct myself now to the Veganan delegate. No! Pantocratoria didn't support the so-called Syskeyian aggression! Pantocratoria supported no action on either side which brought this conflict about! Pantocratoria attempted to resolve the situation diplomatically through the provision of mediation! But, given that neither the Reich nor Syskeyia seemed interested in averting this war, we were obliged to come to the aid of our allies, Syskeyia. If that makes us biased, I say so what! I am asking for independent investigators, and I believe that that request now enjoys enough support from the other delegates, such as the honoured delegate of Mikitivity, for this council to vote on the issue and move things forward! Vote now, I say!"

"The Isaxu support the motion for independent investigators. We believe it necessary to the initiation of objective analysis."

Ambassador Blackwell had been quiet to a point, while having a whispered discussion with his staff. Then he stood up and addressed the Assembly.

"I think there is sufficient support for an independant investigation. Chimaea is perfectly willing for a neutral nation to lead the investigation and we are prepared for this nation to inspect our evidence.

"We also dissmiss claims by Vegana's honourable Ambassador of... supernatural influence... in the affairs already referred here. We find such claims silly; furthermore we find the Reich's trial by witch-hunt system of law to be riddled with doubts, to put it mildly.

"In the interests of fairness we also should point out to the Isaxu Theocratic Order representative that the Knootian Ambassador was only replying in form to the comments made by Vegana's Ambassador. I agree, though, the rhetoric still leaves the central issue of illegal weapons open.

"Chimaea adds our voice to the calls for a vote on this matter. Perhaps with such an investigation will we find the dark truth that lies in the waters of the Gulf."

The Isaxu delegate rose swiftly to counter the Chimaeans.

"Objection, Mr President. The Right Honourable Chimaean diplomat's unfounded disregard for the super-natural as 'silly' is insulting to those who believe in God, who is in essence, a supernatural being. To deny God as 'silly' is greatly abhorrent to believers like ourselves, the Isaxu."

A tint of anger partially cracked the smile of the Isaxu representative.

"We ask that the Chimaeans refrain from insulting those of faith. To blatantly disregard Veganan assertions of supernatural interference in the Gulf without good evidential cause is to abandon reasoned and objective argument in favour of blind assumption thus throwing this international forum into the realms of mockery!"

He slammed his hand against the wooden desk, it cracked. He composed himself into calm and took his seat.

Blackwell regarded the Isaxu delegate cooly.

"On the contrary, Chimaea is very tolerant of religion. However, it is silly to say that Sir Scott was possessed during the trial, just because he adhered to his principles of human rights and rational reasoning. Chimaeans may well believe in God, sir, but to believe in the Reich's witchcraft is asking too much.

"We also greatly deplore your use of... heavy handed intimidation in this Assmebly, but we note that you're not the only party to do so.

"We also remind the Assembly that the onus of providing proof of supernatural interference is on the Reich. Brainwashing a respected legal officer of the Commonwealth does not count as proof. Perhaps we should also demand the Reich pay for his mental health treatment, following his nervous breakdown as a result of his brainwashing?"

There were several restrained chuckles from Chimaean allies.

(OOC: Nice pun, heavy handed indeed!)

"Is it really too much to believe the 'witchcraft' of the Veganans? You sir, are closed minded.
And you greatly insult us again by suggesting we seek to 'intimidate' you. Let us return to the point lest I really start with the intimidation."

The Isaxu representative fist was clenched so hard that you could hear the leather of his gloves.

"Mr. President I really must object to the attempts of the Isaxu delegate to turn this into a religious debate. Such a debate should be be deemed irrelevant in the context of this international forum."

There was some giggling from the Knootian corner.

"I'd like to *remind* the representative of his earlier remarks. We have convened for the present determination of Veganan guilt regarding the illicit use of Biological Weapons in violation of Resolution #16 and I must therefore ALSO affirm his earlier move that delegates stick to the point and avoid a biased and unhelpful ideological argument in favour of a focused analysis of the facts."

He threw a self-satisfied grin around the assembly hall and continued:

"I sense there is support for an independent team of investigators to be sent in for monitoring. For the Dutch Democratic Republic the Chimaean claim presented here combined with the past record of this nation is evidence enough. However I am also aware that the slow and deliberative nature of this body prevents quick action from being taken, even in the face of such henious violations of its own resolutions. Therefore we would support independent investigators.

The elf sat down again.

Disregarding the 'childish' and 'spiteful giggling of the Knootian corner, the Isaxu representative calmed and turned to the Veganan representative.

"Since you have 'reservations' about the independence of such an investigation, I recommend that the investigation be turned over to the Isaxu. The Theocratic Order played no role in the chaos of the Gulf nor have we ever affiliated ourselves with grandiose and aggressive organisations like the Reich and SATO.
Isax has always kept to itself internationally prefering to stand alone in obtaining respect and our near-isolationism guarantees our independence. In addition, our people have always maintained high standards in biochemical, genetic, retroviral and general medical research; areas central to our culture of perfecting God's creation and great assets in an investigation involving bio-weaponry.
Finally, the Isaxu are fellow and devout Christians like the Reich though we are different in the central tenets. Our similar faith would relax tension and apprehension.
Would the right honourable Veganan delegate concur with our suggestion?"

The Knootian delegate stood up again, shouting "Objection! Objection!" but for now the presidency did not open up their microphone again.

"Mr President. In addition to the Knootoss delegation's lack of courtesy as well as their overwhelming objection to the reasoned and sensible Isaxu plan, could it be that they wish to hamper this investigation before it even starts?"

His face carried an enormous grin.

Blackwell shook his head, almost to himself. "Mr. President, the Reich's religious beliefs should have no weight on this matter. We need a less excitable United Nations investigation, not leave it to a party that uses veiled threats of intimidation. To this end I suggest that more than one nation conducts this investigation, excluding of course the parties that are directly involved. I support the Ambassador of Mikitivity's offer to be involved; I suppose it could then be more fair, neutral and balanced."

With that, the ambassador from Mikitivity rises again (and once again tugs at the corners of his vest).

"My government concurs with Chimaea position, namely that any independent investigation panel should consist of multiple nations. Furthermore, the panel members should be individuals appointed by the individual governments, but my government would not mind if the two parties in this dispute had the right to publically state their specific objections to any individuals placed on the panel, bearing in mind that should a party display a general bias against multiple individuals, that this may reflect upon their willingness to cooperate with the UN and may be cause for concern amongst the other panel members.

"If this body would so will it, I'd be happy to provide a list of individuals my government would trust (meaning their findings and reports would be backed by my government). And my government would be happy to put out a call to other UN member states with whom we've worked (which is an extensive list due to our frequent telegram campaigns). It is possible that a few of these nations may also wish to nominate a few members for an international investigation panel.

[OOC: What we could do, if people are interested, is put out a call for a few neutral players, and then others could feed information to these neutral nations. If you want this to take a while, we could create an off-site forum for the duration of the panels investigations, that would allow the panel members to discuss their finding ... or we could create an OOC thread here to do the same, but in greater public view.

I'm not sure where you wanted to take this, but it should be easy to get a few neutral nations involved to just read statements and render opinions based on these.]

OOC: I didn't actually have any plan in making this thread. It was just a bit of fun, a little word play. But hey, if we can make something of this, I'm all for it! We also have to discuss the findings, yeah... and for that we'd nee Vegana to divulge (read=make up) more info on these bio mines. Hey, we could have a investigative committee, like you said, in a congessional-hearing type setting, and we can have both sides have wittnesses to give evidence and so forth... It might be fun. I'll have to discuss it with Vegana first of course... anyway... have a happy Christmas everyone :)

Yssandra Faren, Ennish Consul to the UN, rose from her well positioned seat.

"I wish to nominate the Conseilin of Enn as an independent member of this proposed investigation. We have had little previous experience with the nations in question. As such, we could hopefully provide a fully independent viewpoint.

"We have had some experience moderating arguments in previous disputes within our former region, but never before on such a scale. Nevertheless, we still believe we could help."

She resumed her seat, to watch what effect her statement had made.

"The Isaxu are willing to work with any investigators from Mikitivity and Enn provided the Veganan delegate agrees to allow such investigators into their state.
Provided their is no objection from our Reich 'friends', I would like to recommend James Fen-Obdujik of the Isaxu Genetic and Retroviral Division to stand on the panel. I believe I have stated why I think the Isaxu are ideal panel members."
He awaited the shouts, whether in approval or objection, from the rest of the room.

Ambassador Blackwell nodded. "Chimaea has no objection to the offers made by the Ambassadors of Enn and Isax."

Yssandra again rose.

"I have no objection to working with the Isaxu, or any from Mikitivity. I also believe that another country, DemonLordEnigma, is interested in this. That nation is currently out of touch, but hopefully we will establish contact with them soon."

OOC: I won't be around much this weekend, it being Christmas and all, or for the first few days of next week. So don't expect anything too soon.

The elf stood in one of the hallways leading to an exit, muttering some words of annoyance in Quenya to one of his Kin while paying no heed to any further discussions. If the Chimaeans would have no objection to the annoying fundamentalists then neither would he. The DDR had said enough about this entire embarrasing affair already.

A recess allowed the Isaxu Representative to get some air. He had a visible smile on his face, evidently he felt that he had secured much respect, or hatred, from his fellow UN colleagues for Isax. Any publicity was good for his country, publicity can secure influence.
Of course, nobody liked dealing with the Isaxu anyway. They were percieved as deceitful and untrustworthy, fanatical and ruthless, even 'filthy' due to their dealings in human remains, DNA and genetic engineering. Their lack of ethics secured them the dislike of many, especially from the rest of Christendom despite their shared worship of Jesus Christ.
He also enjoyed baiting the Knootians...

Lydia was not at all happy with the outcome of her phone call with the Telidian Minister for Foreign Affairs. She already had tons of legislative work on her plate and now this as well? She was going to have words when she got home.

Lydia Cornwall, Telidian Ambassador to the UN rose from her seat, smiling at the assembled members.

“Honoured members, Mr President, the Telidian government recognise the delicate nature of this situation and would be prepared to serve as an independent advisor with the agreement of this body. We know little about the conflict in question, thus placing us in a secure independent position able to be objective. We also have no objection to working with any other nations, though we feel any participants should be completely impartial. In our humble opinion any historical or current involvement with either party should serve as preclusion for participation on the advisory panel.”

Pausing a few seconds to allow members to digest the information and for those who didn't recognise her to start the usual, she’s too young giggling fits. Already one had started somewhere in the corner of the room, though unfortunately she couldn’t make out who it was.

In addition, honoured members the government of Telidia is concerned about the potential environmental damage that may or may not have occurred. We therefore respectfully request that any findings which adversely affect the environment be dealt with in the most expedient manner possible. Safeguarding against any further contamination must be a tandem priority of the advisory panel and we therefore respectfully request environmental experts to accompany advisors.

At that moment, the doors to the chamber flew open, a woman standing two meters and sixteen centimeters walking in. Her clothes, being designed to be loose and comfortable, waving as she rapidly walked towards the DLE seat, which was normally where a specially-designed computer for direct contact to the DLE homeworld normally sat. As she took the usually-empty chair, she waved her hand and ignored the way people flinched at the door slamming.

To anyone looking at the woman, she would normally appear beautiful, by the standards of many humans. Her green eyes, now appearing hardened with her distaste for being roused out of a relaxing vacation on Terrator to come to this meeting, seemed to look people deep into their souls at times. To add to her almost-exotic appearance, she was wearing a type of pendant on her head that covered where most people placed the third eye with a ruby while her right ear had what Star Trek fans would recognize as a Bajoran earring. Her clothes had certain spots that sometimes seemed to reflect light in what looked like arcane symbols. Unknown to them, she was just wearing what was currently in fashion on Terrator.

"While I would much rather be on a beach right now and enjoying the feel of sunlight on my back, I'm here to deal with this. I'm offering the addition of DLE troops and technology in determining who is guilty of what for the problem before us. We are guaranteed neutral, as honestly I don't care enough about either side to bother with even attempting to listen to whatever accusations they levy on each other, as nations in this scenario are oft to do. Let's have the evidence speak for itself," she said, her fingers lying on the table and her left hand, having strangely-long fingernails, tapping as she spoke.

Mular Kazaf returned to his support of his reich allie "Today, without any evidence, the United Nations is pedaling resolutions in support of western crusaders, those oppressive despotic tyrannical countries that seek to control the world. Those who claim that they are advocates of humanity and freedom we see for what they really are.
We oppose any motion that would give power over to those who would oppress Vegena and believe the UN body to be corrupt beyond repair. Any group that allows animals to get up and speak, like the Knootian over there, doesnt deserve our respect".

"If someone actually sentient would like to try to oppose this, then I will listen to their objections. Until then, I would like to remind the representative from North Star that we are still trying to decide whether to classify their nation as sentient or a type of delicacy and he is not helping their case," The DLE representative growled, ignoring the stern looks from the other DLE personel who just entered the room.

A new fad going through DLE was the question of whether to classify humans, who were well known to be the genetic ancestors of Sarkarasetans and further back on the evolutionary tree, as sentient or free for putting on the dinner table. Enigma, sensing a dangerous trend, had decided to classify them as sentient. However, he left open the possibility of nations being classified as nonsentient, which tended to haunt him every month. But, the horrified looks people gave when that threat was thrown out was worth it.

"I really wish you wouldn't do that. I've had enough explaining to people you were only doing it for kicks. First Mikivity, then Enn, and then you had the nerve to threaten Vastiva?" One of the DLE people whispered into the delegate's ear.

"Would you classify North Star as sentient?" the delegate asked.

"Good point," the other DLE member replied.

Blackwell gave the North Star delegate an amused look. "This attitude may well be mutual, sir, but it isn't helping matters. I also note with concern the adolescent dramatics that are starting overtake the usual gravitas and dignity of this Assembly, and I remind the honourable delegates that creating a fuss is not the way of gaining the positive ear of the Assembly."

He paused for a moment, his hands steepled on his forehead in an almost prayer-like attitude. "Chimaea believes that three nations are enough for an investigation. We applaud the offers of other nations and, unless the Ambassador of Vegana has any objection, would like to keep the investigation to the three neutral nations of Mikitivity, Isax and Enn."

"You will have to excuse Tersari for her tendency to threaten to eat people. She was sent along due to her extreme degrees in fields related to biological and chemical weapons, not because of her ability to negotiate. Besides, she already fed on the way here," the woman who had whispered to the DLE delegate said.

"Excuse me if you wish. The business at hand is what is needed to be addressed. Three nations may be plenty, but it would be best to have as many nations and as much tech as available here. We have access to certain technologies and certain areas of experience you do not. This is not bragging, but a simple fact. How about five neutral nations? Four to investigate and compile data, one to take a look at the evidence and decide which conclusion to go with when they present the results. It makes it easier on you and has only one nation you have to listen to. And, if anyone tries to interfere with the investigation, we've also already got a small fleet here to unleash pain on them," Tersari, as the DLE delegate was now known, said.

"The Isaxu must concur with the right honourable representative from Chimaea. While we find it pleasing (smirk) and comforting (bigger smirk) to see that other UN member nations are willing to set aside their time and resources to such an inspection, we find that in order to retain a sense of ordered rationality and objectivity within these proceeding; it would be wiser to confine the investigatory committee to the original three neutral parties. That way, the investigation will not become the same circus this debate has been turned into!"

"In which case, I must challenge the inclusion of Mikivity as one of the three. While they do have the capacity to find and use evidence, we have found the representative of that nation also relies on little evidence or purposefully misconstrues what evidence is at hand to his own purposes and do not feel the nation can be objective enough for its findings to be considered valid without close scrutiny by a team of scientists from other nations," Tersari said.

"Tersari, what are you doing?" the other DLE woman asked.

"My job. Don't forget the other reason I was sent along," Tersari said, turning her focus back to the other delegates and dismissing her companion with a gesture.

OOC: I'm making a separate post for this for a reason. I don't want it to get lost in with the RPP of the previous.

DLE, as a nation, does not trust Mikivity ICly to be able to actually be objective on this due to past experience with the UN delegate of the nation. OOCly, I figure Mik will be perfectly objective on this issue. But I have to rely on the IC opinion of DLE for roleplaying.

Tersari is sent along by Enigma to try to check over Mikivity's work in secret and make sure the information is accurate. If she can't do that, she'll try to get Mikivity kicked from the group doing the investigation.

In other words, UN politics at their finest.

Catherine giggles softly, listening to the various delegates. Indeed, Jevah striked her as... Well, somehwat challenged, when it came to his mental capacity, but then, she supposed that this was to be expected from a spacedysnail. And in the end... Lord Atum's position seemed to be reasonable enough, for her ends, anyway.

She barely suppressed a cackle while listening further, to the Telidia delegate.

The environment? There is a war fought between half a dozen nations, half of them being genocidal maniacs in the process of genociding thousands, if not milölions, and he cares about a few FISHES? Dear, how am I supposed to achive world domination with retards like them in the UN...

She muttered darkly, not really listening further, doing exactly what she was supposed to do, in her position as Secretary-General of the UN, as neutral as she could without bursting out laughing.

She could, of course, simply appoint a group of observers (Which she would prolly have to do, anyway, should anyone ask her for it), but where would be the fun in that? No, she waited, watching the mindless babbling, even though she grew slightly annoyed with the Knootians.

Time to remove this annoyance. Staying in the halls without providing ressources. Bastards.

Unfortunately, this was neither the place nor the time to take actual action, but eventually... Perhaps, in the future...

Catherine would have to see.

OOC: No, there is no Secretary General of the U.N. in NS RP. This was decided a long, long time ago. I usually refer to him/her as "Secretary General Schroedinger", and he or she is usually a NPC.

He rose again, shaking his head at the disturbance he obviously had caused. He looked on the ensemble and coughed, then nodded at the Knootian:

"Once again we see how the disease called elf tries to bring strife into the world of humans." He spat on the floor with disgust "We are honoured by all the new people rising to the occasion on this particular subject to prove the axis of evil wrong and clear the proud name of The Reich. However we feel that we need to know more about the three names you have mentioned before we can decide who is going to get vetoed or not. I need time to assess these nations to present them for our benevolent leader so that he may decide if there exist any connections to the harlot and deamonspawn called nephilim! I will bring these names to our leaders and come back with an answer shortly. In my humble opinion you all seem worthy, but who am I to decide such a thing, especially since there seem to be allegations from other parties in here." He looked around on the assembled leaders "To hasten this decision you might want to decide what nation should be harbouring this peacekeeping investigative unit. While our beloved leader gets information about this. So who will lead this unit and where will it be drawn together?" He stepped down and hastened out through the door, ignoring the discussion to come.

OOC: Unless indicated otherwise, the following is in Sarkarasetan.

IC:

"Vegana plays a dangerous game. I have to admire that," Tersari said.

"Yes, they do. You admire him, don't you?" Enigma asked, his voice comming through a transciever hidden in Tersari's earring.

"I think he's good enough to eat," Tersari said.

"Control your virus. I sent you there to do a job, not to kill delegates and drink their blood. If you can't do that, I'll have to replace you," Enigma said.

"Don't worry. My vampirism is under control. So, the next part?"

"You need evidence to prove your case. You have the recordings I gave?"

"Yes. They're here with me. You wish me to plant some evidence in the Mikivity office here as well?"

"No. And no killing the delegate either. Unlike the others, he still does a good job. Also, try not to use your other abilities in public yet. I don't want them knowing exactly what we are capable of yet."

"Understood."

"So, how shall we go about this?" Tersari asked the floor, switching back to English.

The Isaxu representative was amused by the Veganan delegates statement, his smirk widened to lengths deamed unnatural by a normal human, but since when had the Isaxu ever been normal?
He turned to his diplomatic attache, whispering softly so that no outsider could really here.

"These Veganans are hiding something, since when has the accused ever had any choice about whom looks in their own backyard?"

The attache was also amused.

"I must concur, they are so obviously responsible for the 'incident' in the Gulf. Perhaps we could use this to our advantage."

The Representatives left eyebrow raised.

"How?"

"Simple. We merely approach in secret both the representatives of the Veganans and the Chimeans, each at each other's throats. We offer to each that if we are appointed to this investigative board, then we shall seek to 'alter' the biological and chemical data in the favour of the party that pays the most. No one would question Isaxu analysis, we have better biochemical and scientific resources than most nations and we have no apparent political motive for altering the results due to our previous long-standing isolation. The Veganans and the Chimeans would both love to have a supposed 'pawn' to use in their little war so their is little risk in them blocking our entry into the committee. In effect, we can use this plan to extort money out of either party. Analysis by auction."

The Isaxu representative was overjoyed.

"You have my authorisation to approach the delegates, do so with discretion."

OOC: A risky game indeed, because Lady Bryce's people won't accept it. Umm... I can only think of one group of people in 'power' who would, but Lady Bryce have them under her fingers. Blah... if this was the Styles Administration there'd be no problem :p I'll have to think about this. Way to make this complicated, Isax ;)

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Blackwell spread his hands and smiled at the Veganan Ambassador while addressing his remarks to the Assembly.

"Of course, it is the right of the honourable delegate to decide who has access to Vagana territory. However, I'm sure the Syskeyians will have no objection in allowing the investigators into Syskeyian soveriegn territory. Chimaea will do its utmost to protect the U.N. team against aggressive elements which may have illegally invaded Syskeyia, naturally, and I encourage the nations involved to send their own protection. It is, after all, a war zone."

Not having spoken for a little, Lydia watched the debate unfold with interest. Her finely tuned senses was beginning tell her everything was not what it seemed in this debate. Looking round her various colleagues she noticed with interest the amount of ‘back bench’ discussion going on, particularly from the Isaxu corner. She wondered for a while whether she should intervene, but her instincts told her something was amiss.

Lydia rose from her seat, pausing a few moments waiting for the room quiet down a little.

Mr. President, honoured colleagues, the government of Telidia feel we must respectfully object to the inclusion of the Isaxu in this investigation. Whilst we have the outmost respect for their peoples, we simply feel a nation with greater experience of this body should be included. Many of my esteemed colleagues who have presented themselves here have served this body with distinction in the legislative forum. In our humble opinion it is of the outmost importance the laws relating to the accused crime should be fully understood. Who better then, than those who actively participate in the scrutiny of this body’s legislation. Surely no one here would like to see misunderstandings with regard to interpretation of the law, which as we all know could so easily happen.

In addition the honoured member states their advancement in the necessary fields of study to conduct this investigation, yet I do not believe they have shown any proof in this arena. If we are to rely on their technologies and research, surely members of this body have a right to ascertain whether they do indeed posses the appropriate technology, do we not?

"How's this sound for ya. We'll have our ships aim a missile at a city of each nation involved in the conflict. If a nation chooses to attack the UN team, we'll fire the missile aimed at their city. You lose delegates, they lose a portion of their population and deal with radiation problems. The radiation should dissipate before it begins to drift too far. If one involved with the conflict wishes to object, they can go to the DLE capital and try to convince Dictator Enigma or Ministress Orbez they are right. Since we cannot spare any ships at this time, they are on their own. Sound reasonable?" Tersari asked.

Edit:

"I agree with the Telidian on this issue. The UN should check each nation wishing to partake in this and see if they have the technology to do so. I will gladly escort a UN team to Terran to check our technologies and ascertain our capacities, though I notice few question us about it when they see our ships in orbit," Tersari added.

He froze when he heard the Chimaean representant and turned around and met his eyes.

"Well sir, you have our terms for an investigation. Now it is up to this assembly to decide who will lead such an investigation, IF our beloved leader finds no reason to veto these candidates. I wont guarantee the safety of anyone non authorized entering the warzone and we will treat anyone found there as an accomplish to the terrorists. You only show your true ugly face again when you try to drag more people into their death just to please the harlot you serve." He turned around and started to walk towards the exit again, but stopped just a few yards from the door turning around again facing the Chimaean ambassador.

"Oh.. That's right I almost forgot. Thirty minutes ago almost a hundred aircrafts were launched from our vessel the Nephilim Smiter. Their target was your murderous fleet stuck in the so called minefield in middle of the Syskeyian Gulf Mr Ambassador. We will meet your agression inch by inch, feet by feet, trust me on that mr. Ambassador, dont you think we haven't seen your troop gatherings in support for the terrorists. I suggest you tell your Nephilim mistress that this time The Reich is prepared ot go all the way and you will have to pay for your allegiance to the axis of evil in Chimaean Blood. When push comes to shove we WILL shove mr Ambassador. The Reich know no other ways of war than the Total war and you have gone too far this time. Good day sir." He smiled grimly at the Chimaean ambassador and walked out of the room.

Yssandra rose.

"The Conseilin of Enn calls for an immediate ceasefire between all nations involved in this. No UN team could operate whilst a battle is going on. Furthermore, we propose that any breach of this ceasefire shall be taken as an admission of guilt."

The North Star ambassador cheered at the strong words of the Veganan "Heil noble resistance! death to the enemies of God and state! oh and North Star would gladdly lead such a investigation team"

"Oh please," the elf muttered to himself as the suggestions of the delegates became more and more ridicilous. Casting a glance in the direction of the Ennish and North Star delegates he pondered that he could intervene regarding a lot of things being said, but decided not to... for the moment.

Monsignor Hugh de la Morée, Pantocratoria's ambassador to the United Nations, rubbed his forehead, incredulous at some of the more outlandish theatrics of his fellow delegates.

"Mr President, honoured delegates, I ask that some semblence of order be restored here. The absurd threats of the delegates from the Reich, the nonsense which is spewing forth without restraint from the DLE delegate, none of these things are helping one bit!" he protests. "If Vegana and its allies will not submit to an unbiased UN inspection to determine whether or not they are complying with UN resolution #16, then it should be obvious that they are in violation of that resolution. If Vegana is truly complying with the resolution, then let them prove it by inviting inspectors. If they do not, then I call on this assembly to regard them as being in violation of UN Resolution #16, and to take such action as is appropriate!"

OOC: Heh, nice touch. I would have said "arrogant nonsense" myself.

Keep in mind I am FT. The offers, actions, and other items are reflective of an alien culture's view and this person's particular take on it.

And before someone comments about FT vs. MT, I just lost 200 ships in a conflict with an MT nation much smaller than any of the ones involved in this.

Mathieu Vergniaud was fascinated. Thus far, his posting as Ecopoeia's Deputy Speaker to the UN had been something of a disappointment. The junior nature of his rol meant that he was ordinarily involved in making contemptuous remarks about poor quality legislation and covering his superior when she was on a tea break. This, however, was riveting. He nudged the lightly snoring delegate from East Hackney.

"Any idea where I can get some popcorn?"

The Hackneyite stirred a little, mumbled something about not wanting his dinner now, mother, and dribbled. Vergniaud shrugged and turned his attention back to the heated debate. Lydia Cornwall had just sat down. He caught her eye as she gauged audience reactions to her speech and gave her a wink. She smiled back, slightly wanly, he felt. I hope that wasn't too lascivious...

"I object to the Telidian representative's statements regarding a bar of Isaxu membership on the investigative council. In what respect is UN experience worth in an investigation of bioweapons? We need science not politics. UN experience may come in need in a debate such as this but when it comes to hard analysis of the facts, it is useless."

(OOC: Well Chimaea, even if you don't agree; if the Veganans do, then they would deny an investigation unless it contained us in the scientific crux of the investigation...

“Even the Ecopoeians have made it” Lydia thought to herself having caught Mathieu Vergniaud’s eye. “He’s such a jolly chap, always smiling with such enthusiasm.” Deciding a smile back was in order Lydia turned to the Ecopoeian corner and started to do so, but it was at this point the Isaxu delegation came back with a retort to her objection and her attentions switched steely to the matter at hand.

“Very interesting indeed, though a rather predictable response” she thought to herself. Allowing her fellow delegate due time to raise his objection, Lydia rose politely to address his reply.

Mr. President, it is not the attention of the Telidian government to place the Isaxu in any negative light in front of this body and we re-iterate that we hold their peoples in high regard. It is our view though that experience within this body is of the outmost importance to the investigative team. Indeed even the response by the honourable member from Isaxu is an unfortunate testament to their inexperience. Do they honestly believe this body should send inexperienced members in to a war zone? Yes indeed we need appropriate science to prove guilt or innocence, but we also need individuals who will not escalate an already volatile situation. We can hardly send individuals with little diplomatic experience; the potential consequences of doing so could be quite alarming.

I note also the honourable member have not addressed our government's main concern, which is also shared by others in this debate. We only have their word they do indeed have the appropriate resources to conduct this investigation, will they be prepared to prove to their fellow members they can indeed do so?

Vergniaud sat back in his chair, his face a picture of contentment. I'm in there, he thought to himself. His complacent reverie was shattered by the arrival of Varia Yefremova, his immediate superior, as she made her way to a vacant seat next to him, her journey punctuated by the odd muttered "excuse me" and "sorry". She looked at him quizzically.

"You look like the cat that got the cream." Vergniaud sat up, guiltily. Yefremova fixed him with a suspicious gaze, then shook her head with a wry chuckle. "OK, Mathieu, what's going on here?"

"My dear colleague fails once again to understand the complexities of the situation.
I mean, its not like we will be there alone and with other more experienced members accompanying us on our mission, we need not worry about diplomatic consequence. We only desire to analyse within the scientific aspect of the investigation, the Isaxu will leave the diplomacy to the experts.
Anyone with sense can see truth in our words and the Telidian failure to understand can only mean that the Telidian delegate is launching a campaign of malicious and revolting attacks against our attempts to bring clarity to an important matter. They seek to manipulate a potentially dangerous situation for their own vile purposes. Either that or they are incredibly obtuse!"

He smiled, perhaps they were that stupid...

Yssandra rose, and addressed the Assembly as a whole.

"It appears to the Council that the delegate from Isax is threatening Telidia. We cannot allow this to happen. We are here to investigate one conflict, not start another.
"Again, we call for an immediate ceasefire between all nations in this investigation, and call for this to be extended to the investigating nations themselves. I am sure that the representative from DemonLordEnigma can make sure that such a ceasefire is fully obeyed while the investigation is underway."

There, she'd managed to obey the Council's edict of pacifism, while still sneaking in would could be construed as a threat. Still, it wasn't as if the Council needed any help in destroying another nation. It just made it easier if it was DLE doing the actual warring.

"I object to the statements of the Enn representative. The Isaxu Theocratic Order is not seeking and has never sought conflict and these accusations of threats are grossly exaggerated. We merely sought to reveal to the entire assembly the nature of Telidia's arguments against us; they proved to be baseless. Now I may have accused them of manipulating the situation to their 'own vile purposes' but that is hardly a threat. A threat is when I intend to take violent action because of those manipulations. God help me, pray I do not have to explain things further! Cannot people see the logic?"

"I would like to thank the Enn representative for that vote. I would also like to ask the Pantocratoria representative to not accuse people of nonsense unless he actually has something logical to add to the conversation. Refusing to allow inspectors into your nation doesn't mean you have the weapons. If I didn't trust inspectors to do their job without bias, I wouldn't allow them into my nation either. So I move that unless you have some evidence to back up your claim, your movement be denied. And if you wish to continue accusations of nonsense, let us settle this outside of this room in a more traditional method," Tersari said.

She then paused, listening as instructions came in through her earring. Anyone near her could hear the voice and recognize it as Enigma's, for his voice often rang over these chambers in times past and was still present in many recordings sometimes replayed before this council, but they would not be able to understand what was said. She replied with what sounded like an affirmative before continuing.

"DLE forces can easily keep the peace here with our ships, no matter if we are just offering a reason not to interfere with the inspection or keeping all forms of violence from continuing. Of course, you should have a way to monitor our ships to make sure we don't just fire for the fun of it. I'm willing to agree to UN personel on DLE ships and to monitors on Earth watching the ships to make sure that we only fire when it is necessary. Any DLE soldier caught firing before then will be turned over to the UN for trial for commiting war crimes," Tersari announced.

Baroness Bennigsen (OOC: this would be before her trip to Mississipi) slips quietly into the room,and discreetly requests the notes from a UN official. She is known to be the Ambassador to the UN for Lavenrunz, a dark haired woman of unusual loveliness who sits with fingers steepled, quietly listening to the debate.

Blackwell listened to the Veganan Ambassador coldly, and watched as he left the Assembly. Then he leaned to his right and whispered to an aide, who stood, bowed to the President and left the Assembly chamber.

Blackwell spent the next few minutes listening to the arguments from various nations, making a few notes, though it was obvious his mind was elsewhere. He noticed the entrance of the Lavenrunz Ambassador and smiled tiredly at her. It was nice to see a nation who tended to be truly honourable...

Blackwell decided it was time to add Chimaea's comments to the matter.

"I note that there have been noble calls for a ceasefire between nations. However, this is not possible at the moment. The Syskeyian people in Benedictia are suffering from the Reich's invasion and we cannot leave them."

He paused for a moment, tapping his pen against his noted. "The Veganan Ambassador's comments speak for themselves. The Reich is fully prepared to escalate this conflict. I fear there are dark times ahead for the world, not just Syskeyia... We must stop this bickering and present a united front against those who seek to tread our Charter to the ground." he gestured at the facsimile of the Charter which faced the Meditation room of the General Assembly chamber.

"With this in mind I withdraw my last call for a limitation on the number of representative nations which shall investigate this matter. I echo other's suggestions that a committee be set up as part of this Assembly, where Chimaea and our allies will present evidence of Reich war crimes to the world. Though I fear that soon, these war crimes will be in the open anyway."

Baroness Bennigsen rises and says in a calm but very clear voice, "I should like support the Chimaean Ambassador's words: quarreling and chest beating does not befit such an assembly. However it is still to be hoped that a means for peace can be found, and Lavenrunz will support such aims."

Listening intently and taking notes of her colleagues various responses, Lydia was beginning to feel guardedly comfortable in the direction the debate was taking and also humbled at the support from some of her colleagues. The forces that were trying to steer the debate in a direction she disapproved of had been placed in a tenuous position she felt. Hopefully her colleagues would now be able to exert a measure of control over them.

Politely nodding and smiling to the good Lavenrunz Baroness as she completed her speech, Lydia rose from her seat to make a statement.

Honoured members, Mr President the government of Telidia echo many of my esteemed colleagues sentiments. Certainly for a body devoted to maintaining peace throughout the world, it should be our first priority and long-term goal to end this conflict as a whole. However, in the short-term we must also act on the responsibilities placed before us with regard to the resolutions passed by the member body. To that end we welcome the honourable Chimaean representative’s call for a lift in the limitation of investigatory nations. We previously stated the Telidian government’s willingness to aid in this investigation and should this member body accept our inclusion, we would be more than willing to work with others represented here.

We maintain our view that individuals with strong diplomatic skills and a good knowledge of this body’s laws should be sent in addition to those with strong scientific skills. We would therefore even welcome working with the Isaxu, since they have agreed to limit their involvement to the scientific part of the investigation only. Our preference would still be for those who will take part in the scientific investigation to prove their ability to accurately conduct the investigation and we strongly recommend my fellow members give due consideration in this regard.

May we also suggest in the interest of fairness all investigatory nations participate in the scientific investigation and each take their readings independently of each other? This will ensure that accidental inaccurate readings are minimised as much as possible and allowing the investigatory committee information from more than one source. We feel strongly that if a member of this body is to be potentially charged for breaching resolutions, information from various sources to prove guilt or innocence is in the best interest of due process.

"Fellow representatives, the Conseilin of Enn agrees with the Telidian position. Scientific investigation must remain independent," Yssandra said. Personally, she wasn't happy with the Council's position, but she wasn't about to lay her life on the line by defying them. Not yet, at any rate.
"I believe that we need to finalise the scientific and investigatory members as soon as possible. Again, I volunteer Enn as an investigatory nation. We have knowledge of the working of the United Nations."

"Take it outside? I beg your pardon!" Monsignor Hugh de la Morée exclaimed from his chair, incredulous at the DLE delegate's words. When his turn to address the house came again, he stood to his microphone.

"Honoured delegates, the nonsense to which I previously referred was the idea that there should be further bloodshed in the form of the DLE delegate's military firing missiles at cities on both sides of this conflict. The United Nations has never condoned, nor should it ever condone, an attack on civilian populations as a guarantee of compliance with one of its resolutions, or a ceasefire, or any other treaty. Pantocratoria would welcome a ceasefire for inspections to be allowed. We demand that UN inspectors be allowed to investigate all sides for compliance with Resolution 16, in fact. It is not the position of my government, nor any other reasonable government, I should hope, that such investigation involve the threat of destruction at the hands of UN missiles!" he said angrily.

"The United Nations has passed a resolution forbidding the weapons Vegana stands accused of using. If any of the UN's resolutions are to mean anything, there must be penalties for refusal to comply with them! If Vegana refuses to admit the UN's inspectors, whether they have banned weapons or not, they must be regarded as in breach of the resolution, because they are failing to submit to inspection. The UN must therefore take action against Vegana, I believe by expelling it from the United Nations, if its government will not submit to UN inspection." the Monsignor continued. "And for the benefit of the DLE delegate, I am not implying that refusing to admit UN inspectors to test compliance with resolution 16 means that Vegana has weapons banned by resolution 16. I am stating, clearly and unequivocably, that Vegana refusing to admit inspectors constitutes a breach of resolution 16 in and of itself, and should have penalties!"

Blackwell nodded in agreement. "Ambassador de la Morée comments regarding the DLE delegate's threats of missile are quite right, such an action would be in conflict with this organisation's principles of human rights.

"We also most strongly condemn Vegana's blocking of any UN inspections for evidence of the manufacture of bio weapons in that nation. Their use of bio weapons are clear and there is no doubt at all as to their existance. We have documented them in action over the past two days and we will gladly present this evidence for the United Nations."

Tersari busted out laughing at the comments of the last two ambassadors about the resolution. She had reviewed it many times before today, and knew she had them. They had just given her what she needed.

"All of this commenting about them being in violation of the resolution were nice, if you had evidence to back it up. The entirety of the resolution says, and I quote, 'Biological weapons, if used during warfare or covertly, represent an enormous risk to the well-being of not just the target of said weapons, but potentially everyone on the planet. It is therefore imperative that nations eliminate these heinous weapons.' Nowhere does it say anything about inspections, failure to allow inspections, or even that inspections are possible. You're thinking of the Eon Convention on Genocide," Tersari paused, listening to her next orders.

"Ladies and gentleman, I move we ignore the comments by the Pantocratoria delegate due to his not bothering to read the resolution that applies to this meeting. He's adding words and clauses that do not exist in the actual resolution. If a delegate cannot be bothered to know the piece of legislation he is using as evidence, then how can be provide worthwhile advice on the subject he is discussing? They can't. So it makes sense to not take their advice on the matter," Tersari paused for a moment, allowing these words to sink in.

"Now, my threat of missiles is, as some would say, a violation of the UN's view on how to handle civilians. But, how are we going to guarantee the safety of the inspectors? Are we going to ask the nations involved to play nicely and allow them in? If Vegana has really used bioweapons, how are we to say they won't take an opportunity to kill or threaten the inspection team? If we don't provide some means of coercing the nations involved to not interfere, the result could be far more bloodshed than one of my missiles fired into a city will ever cause. If you wish, I can order my ships to target military bases instead and use less weapons that don't have a radiation spread on those. Or I can target the government buildings. Or something else in each nation that is agreeable to you and would cause each nation a significant loss. And my offer of letting the UN monitor the whole event, both on land and on the ships, still stands. In fact, I'll allow you to provide armed escort for the UN members on the ships to make sure my nation attempts no treachery. If we fire without the inspection team is harmed or, if the UN agrees, the ceasefire broken, then it will be by my order and I will be here on trial for breaking the Eon Convention," she paused, allowing them to consider that.

"What have you got to lose? If a war does happen, it will be entirely my country doing the fighting, as we will claim independant actions from the UN. If no firing of missiles occurs, then the threat worked and the inspection team goes unharmed. In either case, the UN itself is not involved in a military action and the UN has something to convince the nations involved that attacking the inspection teams will result in consequences," she said, sitting down.

OOC: Last two Ambassadors? Methinks you need to read what Blackwell actually said :p I'd like a correction, please. I did indeed check the resolution before posting anything on it. Gebus.

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Blackwell shrugged, knowing the Resolution did indeed fail to mention any penalties or inspections. "I note that the spirit of what Ambassador de la Morée said still stands; Vegana is still blocking a U.N. investigation into the alleged illegal weapons. Chimaea's condemnation stands.

"I also note that we do indeed have evidence of the violation of Resolution 16 as it stands at present. It is ready to be presented to whatever investigation will eventuate. Therefore, nit-picking about the resolution is largely academic; on the strength of our condemnation we still have the ability to act.

"Furthermore, we cannot afford any U.N. party to hold a threat over any other nation. I feel that another possible war or an escalation of this already violent conflict is not something that is within the U.N.'s aims.

"There exists enough evidence to prove that bio-weapons existed and still exists within the Gulf of Syskeyia. We do not have to risk the safety of a U.N. team in the major ground conflict in Benedictia. Chimaea and Syskeyia shall present further evidence of war crimes committed on the ground once we have complete access to Benedictia, and a U.N. team could safely operate in the area."

OOC: She was addressing the particular delegate she asked the UN to ignore. The part about "last two delegates" should reveal something about who is doing the real talking. She's just a living puppet, obeying the will of her distant master.

The last part of this is how I ICly explain threads on the website. What better way than to say it is being recorded?

IC:

"And you're knowledge of the resolution goes unchallenged, Blackwell. I would like to remind you that the majority of the DemonLordEnigma Empire is not in the UN. Just a single territory of it. Our ships are from a territory not part of the UN, despite the fact the entire empire obeys UN rules, and as such an arguement can be made for this being a nation not part of the UN interfering. And I would like to remind you that not only have UN nations threatened each other, but that recently there's been a rash of murders of UN delegates by an as-yet undetermined UN delegate and that UN nations have actually directly attacked others over proposals in the past. At this very moment, one UN member is having his nation bombed by another in response to his proposal, with every missile fired on him being equal in number to the endorsements his proposal recieves. Despite the UN's official stance, unofficially its members use violence and bloodshed when it suits them. This war we are discussing is a prime example of that," Tersari replied.

"Also, while I think your evidence should be considered, I must point out you are the farthest from a neutral party in this, as you are the one who brought this up. While I do not question the validity of your evidence, in order to make a just decision we will need to confirm it using neutral parties. Otherwise, a successful repeal of the decision can be based on the fact the evidence comes from a biased source, and that we cannot afford in this case," she said.

"Also, I would like to remind all delegates present that everything we say and do in here is recorded. Including whispers. It's part of the system that allows future bodies to check how we came to these decisions," she said, directing herself to certain candidates.

Caliph Suleman ben Ghaziri al-Din looked up calmly from his waterpipe, exhaled a cloud of bluish smoke, and gave a gentle smile to the delegation.

He did not stand.

"If Vegana wishes to stand against the entire of the UN in its attempt to do as it will, and disregard the spirit of the passed resolutions, so be it. Vastiva will be moving a fleet into the area to conduct preliminary testing of the waters, and will make recordings of the ocean, in order to spot these 'biomines'. If they are there, Vegana is in violation, and should be bombed out of existance with nuclear weapons, just to be sure."

Another puff escaped his lips.

"Many apologies, was that aloud?"

"Thanking the... honourable DLE delegate, but I am perfectly familiar with the text of Resolution 16." Hugh de la Morée replied angrily. "It is apparent to me and anybody who believes in the United Nations as a real entity rather than a debating club that failure to demonstrate compliance with Resolution 16 through admitting inspectors is in fact a breach of the spirit of the resolution. It is also apparent to me that in the face of evidence presented by Ambassador Blackwell, biased and untrustworthy as the DLE delegate may have you believe, Vegana should be leaping at the chance to demonstrate its compliance by inviting inspectors."

"Now I ask the DLE delegate, and all honoured delegates, is the United Nations to be toothless? Are United Nations resolutions to be unenforcable? It is true that the text of the resolution omits a clause about inspections. But all United Nations members MUST comply with all United Nations resolutions. Simply because there is no clause in the resolution's text about inspections, should that mean that the United Nations is powerless to do anything about failure to comply with its resolutions?" de la Morée continued. "No, of course not! Resolution 16 stands, and all members must demonstrate their compliance with it! In the case of Vegana we have one UN member claiming to have evidence of Vegana violating a UN resolution. Surely in the face of this evidence, however dubious some would have you believe it is, Vegana should now be called on to demonstrate their compliance with the resolution? To do otherwise is a violation of the spirit of the resolution, and of the spirit of the United Nations!"

I would like to remind you that the majority of the DemonLordEnigma Empire is not in the UN. Just a single territory of it.

Inside the web of time and space.

It was a soft touch the child of the child's pet felt, nothing big, just a random dissonance in the web of sanity.

It did something a mere mortal would have considered a giggle, despite it being, by definition, incomprehensible, and far beyond (or above) such a simple, almost obscene expression.

Really, odd delusions, out there. Ought to keep an eye on it, it might prove to be... amusing.

With that, it was content, and decided to watch some GRBs nearby. It was used to them, naturally, but still, they tickled, and it enjoyed this, one of the few real distractions the universe had to offer.

F*p vs. F*p

"The Isaxu are willing to work with willing others in the scientific investigation however we ask that independence will be maintained."

The representative gave no facial indication that he had been beaten by the Telidian calls for another independent force on the scientific team. The feeling of defeat was irrelevent to him anyway since if the Isaxu results and conclusions were different from those of the other parties, then they could call the other analysis a bribed sham. Isaxu science was universally prized, when accurate.

OOC: You just set yourself up, Pantocratoria. This isn't meant as an OOC attack, but that you left open an opportunity and now Tersari will take it. I had hoped she would at least have to argue from a new direction and fight her way back up.

IC:

"So not only is the delegate from Pantocratoria not bothering to look at the resolution at hand for his arguements, but he is also not listening to the words of the same people he is trying to argue against. Can we really trust the advice of a man who has shown he cannot even state the truth of what another delegate has said?" Tersari asked.

"Now, I call upon all of you to stop and think about this. If you didn't trust inspectors to come to an unbiased opinion, would you let them into your country? And does that mean you have committed any crimes? No. All we have seen from the Vegana delegate is that their nation does not trust the UN to send an unbiased team to investigate. There is no evidence from their refusal to let inspectors in that they have violated the resolution any more than there is evidence from my sitting here that humanity will conquer the stars. What we have is a delegate drawing conclusions from actions that the actions do not necessarily support. It's about the same if one of you were accused of using bioweapons and you were being made out to be the bad guy and did not entirely trust the UN to send in unbiased inspectors. If you were in that position, would you let the inspectors in?" she asked, smiling internally at how this was going.

"Now, since the delegate from Pantocratoria did not bother to listen to what I actually said, I will remind this council that the reason I said the evidence cannot be trusted is the fact that Blackwell is the person who brought this to our attention, which automatically makes him and everything he comes up with biased. The truth of it doesn't matter. If we rely entirely on his evidence, Vegana can repeal our decision just by pointing that out and using the source being biased as evidence. Can we risk having all of our work in this chamber amount to nothing just because we decided to take the easiest evidence to find? No, we cannot. There are risks in this we cannot take without damaging the credibility of the UN, and the Pantocratoria delegate would have us taking those risks," she paused, regaining a bit of her breath before continuing.

"Now, I note everyone who has listened to what I have said, which seems to exclude the Pantocratoria delegate, should have noted that I am not opposed to the inspections and investigate. I am opposed to just convicting someone based on actions that don't necessarily indicate a violation or evidence that comes from a source obviously biased. That is also against the spirit of such UN resolutions as the Eon Convention and the one we are discussing today. The spirit was equality and justice, not just kicking people out just because they don't trust us enough to do a fair job," she paused again, listening for her next arguement.

"One of the things I find ironic is how the Pantocratoria delegate calls for us to have teeth in our resolve, and yet opposes the idea of using military might to keep this investigation from being tampered with. I ask of you this: How are we going to have teeth without the military? Are we going to put economic sanctions on them? They'll just go outside the UN to trade. Are we going to institute a blockade? Wait, we can't, as that requires the military. What we have is a delegate who calls for us to have teeth, and yet won't support the advice presented that actually gives teeth! And worse, his suggested actions have us acting without evidence from an unbiased source, which may damage the credibility of the UN as a whole. So you tell me if we are willing to endanger the credibility of our entire organization based on the advice of one delegate," she paused again, her final arguement prepared.

"As mentioned by the Pantocratoria delegate, this debate is getting us nowhere. But unlike him, I'm not going to suggest ideas that will keep us deadlocked until long after all unbiased evidence is gone. I'm offering a military force to add teeth which will claim independant action from the UN and a chance to let the inspectors do their jobs. It's simple, effective, and allows us to get past the distraction the Pantocratoria delegate has thus far provided and on to the business of who will be doing the inspections. Would you rather go with an option that keeps the UN unblamed, or would you rather go with an option that will keep us tied up here for months as we try to figure out exactly how to add teeth to our threats in a way that doesn't use military force?" she asked, sitting down again to let them consider.

Yssandra smiled. Despite everything the Council said about peace, she quite enjoyed conflict. Provided she was very careful about how she phrased her language, the Council would be none the wiser about what happened. Well, she hoped that that was the case.

After all, hadn't Stephanie Fulton got away with just about everything?

"I agree with what the DemonLordEnigmatic representative. Threats with no teeth are worth nothing, and all she is promising are those teeth
"The Council also welcomes the actions of Vastiva in this matter. The investigation must be underway as soon as possible so that any evidence does not 'disappear'. But we must also make sure that the evidence was there to start with. Action without proof is worse than appaling."

The Isaxu representative countered....

"I move that Tersari be ejected from this pre-investigatory meeting. She asks that we trust our security into her hands when she can barely control her own hunger for our collective flesh."

He stared at Tersari, eyes gleaming and the devilish smirk returning.

"Why are they even here for this session? What possible benefit can they offer to our investigations? None I say! They seek merely to waste our time!"

Tersari smiled at the Isaxu. He would make an excellent dish, and she was beginning to get hungry. She just hoped no one noticed the predatory look in her eyes.

"If the Isaxu delegate would remember, I'm not actually asking you to trust me entirely. Otherwise, I would not have offered the minitoring of DLE ships present to help provide the teeth I offer. I've also offered to allow armed escorts onto our ships to monitor what is going on there. And my medical condition is none of your concern as long as it doesn't dominate my actions," she growled.

"Now, you mentioned benefits. We do benefit very much from this. We do have... certain territories on Earth we've annexed. Having biological weapons in the water is, despite our lack of attention to those territories, a great concern to us. We cannot afford the chance such pollution will come in contact with those territories," she finished, having revealed something DLE generally didn't.

Blackwell smiled and responded to the DLE Ambassador. "On the contrary. Vegana's only solid response to this discussion is to remind the Assembly that they are attacking the Chimaean Fleet with one hundred aircraft, then storming away. That nation chose not to remain and influence our discussions, to have a part in chosing some of the inspectors so that they may be certain of an unbiased opinion. Chimaea has never attempted to chose all of the investigation team--we have only at one stage sought to limit the number with the intention of speeding up the process, something Vegana agreed to at one stage, though we have taken back that call since. We have indeed criticised some of the offers but this is our right.

"Is our evidence biased? That is for the investigative team to decide. I remind the Assembly that we do not need Vegana to admit that our findings are unbiased and fair. In fact, whatever we find, I have a feeling that no Reich power will accept our findings. That point is moot, ladies and gentlemen. What remains is a lot of evidence including testimony, readings from various sensors and machinery, damage reports, photos, video, satellite corroboration... the list goes on. It is up to the investigation to determine whether these are true or fake and this can be done well enough to everyone's satisfaction--everyone but the Reich, naturally.

"Lastly... we can have teeth without holding nations hostage to missiles. I must remind the DLE Ambassador that in this day and age nearly all nations have counter-measures in place against missile strikes. You would need a lot of missiles to get past some of these missile shields, especially the ones in the Reich. The idea just isn't feasible. We can have teeth without resorting to missiles, though I fear that a military action may be inevitable, though I would infinitely prefer a peaceful alternative.

"Remember, finally, that the most important action we can take is the PR action--winning the hearts and minds of world opinion. If that is won, then it is more powerful than a billion nuclear warheads."

"Unless I heard wrong, they said they were leaving this assembly to choose the inspectors unless their leader vetoed them. What that means is they won't let in people they do not feel can do the job. Which means we may need to use threats to get them to accept the chosen team, and that means you need a nation willing to take the PR fall. My nation has never had strong ties with Earth anyway and our history has a few things now frowned upon by the UN in it. Our PR for this planet is pretty much shot. What I'm suggesting is you let us be the teeth and, if the karlot hits the fan, let us take the fall. Hell, feel free to condemn us for it publically. We can always seal certain parts of this record to not be public. Call it national security of the nations involved in the conflict. The UN comes away with its hands clean, the only nation who gets any blame is willing to accept it, and the inspections are accomplished with teeth to back them," Tersari said, pausing as she listened for instructions.

"Now, I have no doubt your evidence is unbiased. But, the problem is the fact you are the accuser in this case. That makes you biased. Thus, why I want to wait until the investigators confirm it. That way, if he calls your evidence biased, we can point out an unbiased source that obtained the same evidence and same conclusion. That, in turn, makes you look even better afterwards because your evidence was accurate and backed up by the investigators. In the end, you come out looking better for it," she paused, hearing the next part of her arguement.

"Now, you mentioned missile shields. Those are nice, but we find they don't work as well when the missiles are comming from directly above. But missiles are not our only weapons, and we don't have to target cities. We can target just about anything as long as the sky around it is not full of fighting. If you wish, we can target an important military base or even the government building, and the best missile shield in the world won't block energy weapons. And even if we did use missiles, these are not your garden-variety Earth nukes. These missiles explode on impact, and I mean any impact. If they did target these, the only difference is less buildings would be destroyed and the radiation spread would be bigger," she paused again.

"Part of this game is you need a very real threat that they cannot ignore and a way to distance the UN from it to make the UN look better. I'm offering that and offering to let you monitor my ships to make sure they fire only when the time warrants it. If the investigation goes ahead as planned and no interference happens, you make a big spectacle out of us 'disobeying' the UN in our involvement and hit us with sanctions for a couple decades. If something does happen, everyone here can distance themselves or join in as they wish. Afterwards, you can still throw in sanctions in response to our involvement and the resulting war. The PR campaign has you winning every time, and our goals are accomplished. In all cases, the UN walks out ahead. Or, do you really want to spend the next few days here, trying to come up with another solution?" she leaned back, hoping her point was made.

Yssandra sent a personal message to Tersari.

'Why bother with missiles at all? Surely all you would need to destroy cities would be a volley of heavy, heat-resistant material dropped directly over the target. The kinetic energy alone would wipe out just about anything.
And it isn't exactly easy to intercept something accelerating at 9.6 m/s/s.
Plus, it would avoid that nasty radiation business. Unless you hit a nuclear power plant or something along those lines.

Yssandra'

She awaited the reply.

Yefremova shifted uneasily in her seat. She leaned over to speak to Vergniaud. "Doesn't it strike you as a little ... odd ... that certain nations here are taking such a keen interest in affairs that, on the surface, have little to do with them. The lengths to which some people are indicating they would go to just to preserve the good name of the UN... I can't believe this all down to altruism." Vergniaud nodded hesitantly, wondering where she was going with this. Yefremova frowned, then came to a decision.

"Mathieu, see what you can find out about the political situation in Enn, please."

"I reiterate to the honourable DLE delegate, who seems incapable of grasping what I thought was a rather simple concept," snapped Monsignor de la Morée, now losing his temper with whatever the DLE's agenda was in the war in Syskeyia. "That Resolution 16 stands. Under the rules of the United Nations, all member states must comply with all resolutions. This assembly is fully empowered to demand that Vegana demonstrate its compliance in whatever manner this assembly sees fit, irrespective of whether Vegana feels our inspectors are biased, incompetent, stupid, lazy, ugly, fat, or exceedingly annoying, this assembly is entitled to specify the terms underwhich Vegana must demonstrate its compliance. If the shoe were on the other foot, and the United Nations was proposing to send inspectors into Pantocratoria to investigate the Empire's compliance with Resolution 16, even if my government believed the UN's inspectors to be biased or untrustworthy, our feelings on the matter would be entirely irrelevant. It is up to the United Nations to specify how compliance is to be demonstrated."

"I would further add that just because the honourable delegate didn't have anything worth saying doesn't mean that I didn't listen to her. She, on the otherhand, clearly isn't listening to me. Her argument, while all very well and good, is irrelevant. I agree, refusing to admit inspectors doesn't mean that Vegana is guilty of using biological weapons. That isn't the point. That isn't what I was saying." continued the priest. "What I am saying is that Vegana is required to comply with any and all UN resolutions, and that the United Nations is within its rights to demand the demonstration of such compliance by whatever means it deems reasonable."

"The fact that Ambassador Tersari is seriously suggesting using the threat of destroying the cities of those involved in the Syskeyian-Reich war demonstrates her utter disdain and fundamental misunderstanding of the United Nations." concluded the ambassador. "When I say that the United Nations should have the strength to enforce its resolutions, I am not for a moment suggesting that the United Nations should start bombing cities. The United Nations is supposed to improve the lot of the people of the world, not blow them up! The appropriate remedy would be for the United Nations to expel Vegana if Vegana fails to demonstrate compliance with Resolution 16 in a manner deemed reasonable by this assembly. Now, we've wasted quite enough time with talk of bombing each other's civilians in the furtherance of whatever the honourable DLE delegate's hidden agenda is, can we get on with the process of specifying how compliance should be demonstrated?"

Elsewhere....

Still a day out from the conflict zone, the Vastivan wolfpack remained submerged, on silent running. Normally designed for covert insertion, the fleet's "flagship" boasted a wet-dry chamber, now converted for easy sample taking, and certainly to be converted again - such being the advantage of modular design.

In all the other vessels, Captains thru swabs wondered as to their purpose, what they would be called on to do. These were ships of war, sent on a fact finding mission. The presence of NBC gear and protective protocols merely heightened the tension, answering no questions.


Elsewhere, the Caliph sat back, smoking on his waterpipe, watching the delegates - who said what, and to whom. There were always patterns to be observed. The tension would only serve to make the patterns more apparent.

OOC: Excuse the following, but this is the only way to get it to move on. And, frankly, it's exactly what I think a Secretary General would do at this point. I know just about anyone else would. If we are to keep this realistic (as realistic as we can, considering who all is present), then iit would make sense for this to be done.

Edit: If you disagree with this, I'll delete the post and go with my other reply.

Edit2: Editing a few items to make it more realistic.

And, yes, it's been established that I donated the guards. Want to see the thread?

IC:

"I must call question on the mental and physical health of the representative of Pantocratoria. He has shown several times that he either refuses to listen or actually cannot hear what is being said. All of you present know I have stated no opposition to the idea of inspections and have actually offered a way to add force to them to protect the lives of the investigators and the integrity of the investigation. All of you also know I have twice offered alternatives to the bombing of cities in how DLE can help. So what we are facing is someone who either has a physical hearing problem, a serious mental problem, or is practicing what can only be termed willfull stupidity by not bothering to listen to what was actually said. On all accounts, the questionable state of the delegate's health should be enough to have him forcibly removed from these chambers and replaced with someone more capable of doing the job," Tersari said, pausing to think of her next move.

"I've heard enough. I'm ejecting Tersari and Monsignor de la Morée from these chambers. Their nations are allowed to send in replacement representatives, but only if those representatives are less combative and more respectful of these chambers," the Secretary General said.

Tersari walked over to the door, taking off her earring. As she openned the door, she handed the earring to the woman she had dismissed earlier and marched off, the woman giving a worried look as though thinking Tersari was going to kill someone. Then, the woman put on the earring and walked into the room, taking Tersari's seat. She picked up the note before her that was set by an aide of the Secretary General, reading it to familiarize herself with what had been going on.

"I'm Tormet of the DemonLordEnigma Empire. I am glad to have this chance to add my voice to the UN," she said, giving a small bow.

Well, that certainly spiced things up. However, Yssandra was less sure of her position now. Who knew how this Tormet would react? But she had to carry on with her facade.

"I thank the leadership of this chamber for acting in this matter. The last thing we want is a war between the very nations intending to investigate the Veganan issue. For that matter, would it be possible to call a Veganan representative back to this chamber to discuss this matter?"

OOC: I do think it is pretty over the top actually DLE. The guards wouldn't be provided by DLE. The president wouldn't make comments about de la Morée not being able to hear (which he clearly can - he simply disagrees with Tersari), or about Tersari being a vampire (since there are so many countries which send vampires along to these things). Let's change that so that the secretary general expels us without comment, as would be appropriate for a house speaker to do. Mentioning the guards is quite unnecessary.

IC:

Monsignor de la Morée was replaced by the elderly Sir Pierre Phocas, another former leader of Pantocratoria's now defunct United Christian Front party. The old man took a very long time indeed to make his way to his seat.

"Honoured delegates, Monsieur President," he said. "For the record Pantocratoria lodges a formal protest against the removal of its ambassador to the United Nations, Monsignor Hugh de la Morée. Moving on from that, I ask the honoured delegates, especially Ambassador Blackwell, to pay no further heed to the delegates from the DLE. Clearly the DLE has its own agenda; every nation does, certainly, but few have gotten so involved in this debate who are not directly involved in the Syskeyian-Reich war. I ask Ambassador Blackwell to continue to present his case and to suggest an appropriate course of action for the United Nations, and to do so ignoring Madame Tormet, the DLE delegate. It is the position of the Pantocratorian delegation to the United Nations that these discussions will not progress further while we allow ourselves to be sidetracked by the DLE delegation. If Ambassador Blackwell's charges are true then every minute that is wasted in this debate is another minute in which soldiers and civilians in Syskeyia could be exposed to biological weapons; we don't have the time to waste continuing to humour the DLE delegate, and this will be the only time I address anything Madame Tormet has to say."

With that, Sir Pierre gingerly sat down, and slowly sipped at a glass of water.

OOC: DLE, do you have much experience in NS RP, or are you mainly active in II? It just occured to me that you might not be aware of a few things... for example the Reich, and Metus in general have spacefaring future-tech nations. Your technology is nothing new and after all that Mars stuff, they'd definitely have defences against it. RPing the UN SG is fine with me, but DLE guards? Just a mite arrogant, maybe :p there aren't guards within the General Assembly, though I suppose there may be staff. Security would be administered by a few nations at once, being the UN. There are several vampire nations in the UN and in the general international community and the SG certainly wouldn't make comments about the accusations of either party. And finally--the S.G. is not the chairman of the General Assembly! Arrgh! That's the President of the Assembly, something I've taken pains to point out lol

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Blackwell raised his eyebrows as events unfolded, then as order was restored, he nodded at the new Ambassadors before commenting.

"To address the matters put forth by the the DLE Ambassador... Firstly, by leaving the Assembly as the discussion is in progress is in contempt and has a very clear signal that Vegana is not willing to be part of this process.

"Secondly, I do not believe threatening any nation will achieve the desired effects. Threatening so many power blocs at once will invariably have negative effects. No, as I said earlier, the course open to us is clear: Chimaea will present our evidence to a U.N. investigation and a U.N. team will be dispatched to the Gulf of Syskeyia, under heavy protection, where they will be able to see the bio-weapons in action. The U.N. investigative committee will then publish their results and the Assembly will vote on a resolution--this is where we shall show our teeth and let the Reich know that however closed their iron curtain is, the world is always watching.

"As for the DLE's disdain of the defensive technology of the Reich, I wouldn't underestimate them. The Reich has demonstrated their technological prowess before now.

"The biggest threat we have in our grasp is the truth. The Reich will do anything to keep the truth from the world and from their own people, because their control is spread by misinformation and propaganda. The United Nations is the single largest organisation in the world and we have the capability to say 'no'--we just need the reason and the driving force.

"Let those nations interested investigate the matter. Let them uncover the sordid truth that lies in the depths of the Gulf of Syskeyia. Then we shall draw a line and know that there are limits to what the world is willing to take."

OOC: I do think it is pretty over the top actually DLE. The guards wouldn't be provided by DLE. The secretary general wouldn't make comments about de la Morée not being able to hear (which he clearly can - he simply disagrees with Tersari), or about Tersari being a vampire (since there are so many countries which send vampires along to these things). Let's change that so that the secretary general expels us without comment, as would be appropriate for a house speaker to do. Mentioning the guards is quite unnecessary.

OOC: I thought as much. But it was interesting to take out my frustrations on my own character. I stayed in character despite disagreeing with what she was saying OOCly in more than a few cases.

I threw in the vampire comments because DLE vampires are basically like Tersari. Very combative, overly arrogant, and always looking at you as though they are trying to decide what type of wine your heart would go with. Combine that with an inner frustration at the fact they are viewed as being diseased, and you know how people can get about diseases. Not a pretty site when they go off.

I find your idea to be better. I'll edit after this post to reflect changes.

OOC: DLE, do you have much experience in NS RP, or are you mainly active in II? It just occured to me that you might not be aware of a few things... for example the Reich, and Metus in general have spacefaring future-tech nations. Your technology is nothing new and after all that Mars stuff, they'd definitely have defences against it. RPing the UN SG is fine with me, but DLE guards? Just a mite arrogant, maybe :p there aren't guards within the General Assembly, though I suppose there may be staff. Security would be administered by a few nations at once, being the UN. There are several vampire nations in the UN and in the general international community and the SG certainly wouldn't make comments about the accusations of either party. And finally--the S.G. is not the chairman of the General Assembly! Arrgh! That's the President of the Assembly, something I've taken pains to point out lol

Me? I'm mainly active on the UN board. II RPing comes second, with this place third.

OOCly, I'm quite aware of what then Reich has. ICly, I'm too arrogant to bother checking right now. After all, they mostly deal with MT nations on Earth. The nation is arrogant to the hilt and very fun to watch it squirm when that arrogance gets it into trouble. The guards comment was just added insult to Tersari and is going to be removed when I edit that post. Although, I'm leaving it up to you to wonder how much of that claim of providing the guards is IC arrogance over multiple posts and how much of it is truth.

Oh, I wish everyone to notice how different this delegate is.

IC:

"I would like to say to the UN that I am not my predecessor. I have no intentions of wasting lives and firepower in a case where they are not needed. I do not see them as needed in this case unless the lives of the investigators become imperilled. I admit to being new to this conversation and not fully aware of everything my predecessor said, so please be patient with me if I ask questions that have already been answered. While I do have recommendations, I wish to hear the evidence offered before I make my recommendations, as it is better to be making an informed guess than spouting uninformed opinions and my recommendations may be changed by what I hear. Please, Mister Blackwell, do not let my predecessor's comments on this floor prevent you from presenting your evidence," Tormet said, taking a seat after saying her piece and looking attentively.

OOC: This is my get-out-of-jail free card - this RP is going to clash with one of my own, which needs Yssandra in place in Enn. Sorry about that. Will keep up with the thread, though, and if there is a chance to comment as a non-investogating nation, will do so.

IC:
Yssandra stared in dismay at the message that she had just received from Enn.
"Why? Why does this bloody revolution have to be happening now?" she muttered to no-one in particular. "I'm not ready for it yet!"

She then rose, with a deliberately calm expression on her face.

"Fellow delegates," she began. "I am extremely sorry to say that, due to... internal difficulties... the Conseilin of Enn will have to withdraw its offer to take part in this investigation. The Council has asked for all Ennish citizens to return to Enn by Wednesday next week. Unless this matter is resolved by then, and it does not appear that that will be the case, we cannot take any major part in this affair.
"We hope to be able to observe what is going on here, but our own problems take greater priority."

-"This is highly irregular!" A small voice from the backbench where the observers were seated shouted. Coming forward was a short grey man with his reading glasses placed far down at his nose:

[-i]"We ask for a short break so we can deliver the different participants to our leader and while our delegate is away people are getting thrown out and one of the potential delegates are called back for a civil war? Not only do the Chimaeans come filled with lies together with the Pantocratorians. Where they say that just because the honest Veganians want time to review the delegates they are criminals?! What do they not prove with wanting this to be in such haste? Once again they show the strings that are attached to their Nephilim masters. The Chimaeans even say that we run away from the truth! WE are grateful to the DLE participants for telling the people the truth, at least they seem to be able to listen.

"[/i] With this he nodded to Tersari "The nephilim puppets are only interested in the Destruction of the Reich which they have proved over and over again in this discussion! I demand that we postpone a decision until the delegates has been reviewed and the civil war, that occured so conviently for the Nephilim slaves, is being resolved! This way there is no chance that we can have an objective investigation!

Baroness Bennigsen rose and said quietly, "It is the opinion of Her Teutonic Majesty's government that an investigation might not be the wisest thing at this time." she bowed politely in the direction of the Veganan who had spoken. "However, we do believe that some form of mediation must begin. First of all: if this body prefers to lean towards investigation of claims of irregularities, the International Mediation Council would surely be willing to attempt to find a means of resolution outside of war. However, I think this is an opportunity for us to attempt that here. The Empire of Lavenrunz will be seeking a resolution which supports the sovereignty of Syskeyia, by the best means necessary. Her Teutonic Majesty would prefer to do so by means that also are generous and good towards the Benevolent Jaar."

Blackwell shook his head impatiently at the Veganan Ambassador. "This would make sense, sir, if we had finished nominating the investigative committee. To leave in the middle of proceedings makes little sense and a clear statement."

He listened to the Lavenrunz Ambassador thoughtfully, made a note and replied, "We would prefer a peaceful resolution to the crisis, of course, but Chimaea cannot accept anything but a complete cessation of Reich operations in Syskeyia and a withdrawal of forces as soon as possible. Whatever strange and supernatural crimes the Reich accuses Syskeyia of committing has more than been repayed when they took the lives of, we estimate, more than a million people in St. Peter Island. An act that will no doubt live in history.

"However, recognising that we are discussing just one aspect of the conflict at the present time, that of the existance of bio weapons being used against Chimaean and Syskeyian forces in the Gulf, we welcome to help of the Mediation Council, if Vegana is suitably disposed to this. The truth will out, fellow nations, whatever way we do this."

"Monsieur President," started Sir Pierre. "I move that the assembly votes on whether to send inspectors to determine Vegana's compliance with Resolution 16! Vote now, and let's move past this debate!"

"I do not understand why we should vote now when we have not even heard the evidence offered," Tormet asked, her eyes falling upon the delegate.

Lydia had been watching the debate unfold before her with some concern, at this rate nothing will ever be done regarding those weapons. With the DLE representative completing his comment, she rose from her seat.

Mr President, it is clear this debate has stirred some strong emotions between our various colleagues and rightly so. The concern regarding biological weapons is of great concern to us all. With that in mind the government of Telidia would like to propose a sequence of events that may help to move this matter forward. We agree with the DemonLordEngima delegation’s previous statement, we must first hear the evidence the Chimaean delegation speak of. If we do not, how does this assembly know what duties to charge the investigatory committee with?

We therefore propose the Assembly provide an opportunity for the Chimaean delegation to present the evidence they claim to have, followed by an official response from the Veganan delegation. Thereafter we propose the assembly agree on the exact mission of the investigatory committee, with clearly defined goals and a delivery time for their findings. The next phase we feel should then be a final opportunity for nations who wish to conduct the investigation to announce themselves and state why they are best suited for undertaking the goals as defined by the assembly. Once this is completed, the Assembly move quickly to a vote on each of these willing nations and all those elected will be charged with execution and delivery of the goals as previously defined.

His Majesty’s government sincerely hopes, our honoured colleagues will agree to this proposed plan, so this matter may be moved forward. We welcome the comments of our esteemed colleagues with interest.

Nodding in the direction of the President indicating she had finished, Lydia sat down wondering if anyone would even pay attention to the plan.

Blackwell nodded at the Telidia Ambassador. "This seems the best course, Mr. President, and Chimaea is ready to present at least enough evidence to brief the Assembly on the matter."

He looked around the Assembly Chamber and smiked. "Well, shall we take a look at what the Reich are really up to in the Gulf of Syskeyia?"*



*Ripped from Adlai Stevenson during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I hope he forgives me x_x

OOC: I expect that changin people and banning people cant be done over a few hours... So I let the old man that sits on the backbenches talk again until my ambassador is back

-"Yes, by all means, present the evidence while our UN-embassador is away to present the delegates to our leader. That is so typical of you Chimaeans. This already has drawn out over days, why cant we wait a few more days so our ambassador is back? Or are you afraid of the proof that HE may bring from our side? It is So obvious that the Nephilim Pets try to send in their puppies into this, why should they else move with such haste? Shouldn't we get a analysis well constructed, why the haste? What are you Chimaeans up to?! What are you afraid will come up if we take proper time to do a thourough investigation?!

"With all due respect," said Sir Pierre. "The Veganan Ambassador intentionally withdrew mid-way through these proceedings, fully aware of what was pending. If he is not here, it is through his own fault and design. Let us not fall for Vegana's delaying tactics. Let us hear the evidence and vote on the issue of inspectors now!"

-"So he did, and he also fully explained to the esteemed council exactly why. I think everyone with a mind of their own could grasp how important it is for this investigation to be fair and well performed?

Shame on you Pantocratoria! Once again the filthy elven snout shows through your puppet words! This goes to show how unimportant it is for you for the truth to come out! This goes to show how much you respect an objective delegation! Obviously your fear for this being a fair investigation is so big so you clearly is hiding something! How much are you paid by the elven Harlot to throw these lies at the Proud Reich?! More than the thirty silver pennies she gave as an interestfree loan to another once proud nation that has fallen under her dark looming shadow i hope?

I once again humble asks for postponing any decisions until the ambassadors are here"

"I ask that the Veganan representative to please not speak of the Nephilim when his nation has no experience with the species that I have seen evidence of. They have not plagued this galaxy since their extermination by Sarkarasetan hands millions of years ago. If any of them are left, they certain wouldn't be on a planet that used to be so deep in Sarkarasetan territory, as we would have detected them long ago. If you really wish to accuse people of being nephilim, I can order a scan that takes five minutes and would let you know whether any are on this planet or not. After all, who would know more about how to find them than the descendants of the people who exterminated them? So, please, let us hear the evidence and then, if you wish, I can have the nephilim scanned for," Tormet said.

It was, of course, a lie. The word "nephilim" was one of the oldest in Sarkarasetan, have predated both the language and species by millions of years. During the height of the Two Sarkarasetan Empires, the word was used to indicate creatures that existed outside the normal rules of space, creatures of madness that had such names as "Azatoth" and "Yug-Sototh." The empires never found evidence they existed, but some of the records left behind said they found strong evidence to suggest such beings did exist and were best left undiscovered. The result is one of the many mysteries of the Sarkarasetan past, as for some reason they destroyed what evidence they found and never continued, or recorded, the experiments that led to those discoveries. The only thing even hinting at them doing experiments was a strange warning to leave the higher dimensions of the universe as unexplored mysteries, something that puzzled DLE scientists ever since reading it.

In the end, however, DLE scientists did determine that such beings would not be able to exist in this realm without bending the fabric of reality. Such a bend would be noticeable to many types of sensors available. Of course, this assumed such beings exist in the first place.

"All right," Blackwell said, wearily. "I can see this is not getting us anywhere. As we speak, there are soldiers of the Commonwealth losing their lives to the cause... Frankly, there is a single course of action left to Chimaea. It is clear now that the U.N. will take time to investigate the matter. I will also chose to ignore the hysterical efforts of the Veganan representatives to delay these proceedings."

He whispered to an aide, who stood, bowed to the President and left briefly. Half an hour he was back from the Chimaean offices with a briefcase, followed by a U.N. guard who stopped at the door.

The aide opened the briefcase and started to upload several small disks of high-intensity information to the computer system that linked every Ambassador's section in the Assembly. Blackwell nodded at his screen. "In a moment you will have the basic evidence of the existance of bio-mines within the Gulf of Syskeyia. This evidence consists of data that has been gathered by Chimaean forces in the area, both military and scientific. There is a small amount of video evidence, more can be provided as they are declassified. Photographs, radar readings, satellite deep imaging and readings from other sensors located both on the ships and on probes we sent after our first encounters. There is written testimony from officers of the Chimaean Navy, and a small amount of damage reports. Due to the highly sensitive nature of this information, of course, the sheer volume of evidence to be compiled and the fact that a war is progressing right now, I regret that I cannot provide more in this brief... but what you have on your screens should be more than enough."

"I would like to thank Ambassador Blackwell for presenting this evidence. I propose that these proceedings be suspended for a brief period to allow each nation's experts to examine the evidence. I would remind the honoured delegates that the point of such an examination isn't to determine whether or not Vegana is guilty of violating resolution 16, but merely to determine whether an inspection is warranted." suggested Sir Pierre.

Tormet had merely pressed the forward button as soon as she got the information. But she was quite surprised when she got a reply before the presentation had even concluded. So she instead read through it rather than listening to the presentation. And the results were quite surprising.

Okay, as soon as I recieved this I ran a basic scan on the evidence presented. I got a hit on the very first item on the list, and a very high one at that. Biological weapons are definitely present and investigation should go forward.
But, I must question whether this evidence is doctored or the results of massive use of bioweapons. We normally only get this high of a hit on areas where massive numbers of weapons have been used.
If this is real, I recommend immediate termination of all investigators after they present their evidence and anyone they come in direct contact with. Quarantine them immediately afterwards. And find whoever it was that gathered this evidence and terminate them as well. These levels are too high to risk allowing someone potentially exposed to the bioweapons to survive.
-Doctor Norbeth


As soon as a recess was called, Tormet motioned for Blackwell to come towards her, indicating he should read this. She quickly wrote down an English translation of the Sarkarasetan communication for him to read. This he would not like.

The Iesus rep to the UN , sat at the back toddling on a piece of paper...Iesus not even being in the UN send a envoy simply out of respect..sometimes...now being one of them...he decided to speak...
The honourable Kurt Willian-Iesus Christi
"Nephilim lies! Lies made by whores and harlots! I spit on the lap dogs of the metahumans!
You all talk and talk..yet you never listen, oh noble Vegena is hounded by you dogs even as he puts forth motions for peace! How can anything occur if the primary party disagrees!
You know absolutely nothing about the Reich, nothing except fear of it...I know Vegena to be innocent of these viles Nephilim LIES...oh God will judge here soon but if these threats continue to fly at us...we will bring down upon the warmongers, horrors a thousand times worse than what you accuse us of today!"

OOC: The following is exactly how I would respond on the UN forum.

IC:

Tormet merely tapped her earring three times. As soon as the Iesus Christi delegate steps outside, he'll be approached by two DLE soldiers dressed as though they are from the Reich, who will claim they have evidence of Nephilim activity they need him to see, evidence which will disprove the arguement against Vegana. Of course, the only evidence they'll be presenting is evidence of the delegate's "accidental trip" that sends him plumetting to his death. While she was nice, Tormet was actually far more ruthless than Tersari would ever be.

As soon as the Iesus Christi rep stepped outside, he was approached by two Reich soldiers. They solluted (sp?) and stepped up to him immediately. It was apparent from their manner that something was very urgent and normal protocol would take too long.

"We have evidence of the Nephilim conspiracy. While these snarling scoundrels won't believe honorable Vegana, you presenting the evidence will convince them of the black shadows that cloud their eyes. It is on the roof and best if you look at it before presenting," one of the guards said.

"Monsieur President, as a point of order I believe that all envoys from nations which are not part of the United Nations should be forbidden from participating in this debate." said Sir Pierre, rolling his eyes.

OOC: DLE, you can't just kill off an Iesus representative. And Iesus guards wouldn't be allowed in the UN. That just doesn't ring true...

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Blackwell peered at the translated message that the DLE Ambassador was showing him. His brow wrinkled and he regarded her sceptically. "I'm not entirely sure if these people have their facts in order... We have not come across any evidence of contagious biological weapons in the Gulf, or anything requiring quarantine. I don't believe the Reich would attempt anything so obvious at this stage of the war... There's just bio-mines which are a threat against shipping and I assume the local marine life."

OOC: Check the prostitution repeal thread in the UN forum. The UN Pruner struck again. You'd be surprised how many delegates I kill off monthly.

In this case, I assumed it wouldn't strike true. Those guards are really DLE soldiers in disguise. Of course, Tormet will simply write them off as Merlyns rebels trying to make the Empire look bad and have them arrested if they get caught or found out. It's simply a case of playing the character of the nation. Part of why I had them approach immediately is so that if he tries to run, he'll be running into the UN chambers and Tormet will be forced to take action against the very people she ordered after him to save face. I play very, very dirty politics ICly.

IC:

"This was just a base scan. Low reliability on the results of the amount. The real results are likely a tenth of what he found. But the fact we found it in your evidence so easily is quite alarming. This means you have my support, but I advise precautions. We don't know how those mines are rigged, and even a tenth of the amount found by the scan is very dangerous," Tormet said.

Two S-POD teams returned to the point submarine. Of the five sent, this was considered good odds - that none of the missing S-PODs responded to ELF sends was considered sufficient to list them as "missing in action, presumed dead".

The S-PODs docked in the wet/dry chamber, where they were sealed in first, then given full exterior treatments - nothing living could survive a "final wash".

The submarine turned and headed towards the laboratory works, the rest of the wolfpack dispersed to head off any sort of pursuit. The results would be known, classified, and most importantly owned by Vastiva in the very near future.

At his seat, the Caliph continued to watch. And occasionally, to puff.

OOC: DLE, think you need to chill down a little on that. You're already pushing it with throwing out people from the UN.. ;)

BTW, you guys DO know that those mines are constructed to look like jelly fishes and will dissolve eventually...Thats why I'm trying to stall this.. I'm also having trouble with people trying to grab them since the only way to touch them after activated is blowing them up... IF you want to do things with them please T-gram me first so you can know what you can do with them and not..

IC:

-"Nice pictures..." He threw them on the desk in front of him. "A school of Jelly fish and some boats with their old hulls leaking.. This proves what?

OOC: I just TGed you about that.

Edit: I know the risks I'm taking. And I know the IC outcome. There is a method behind my madness, and you will see it manifest shortly.

Yefremova shook her head in dismay. I'm getting way out of my depth here. A thought struck her. She hesitated, then decided to take the plunge.

"Mathieu."

"Humph?" Her deputy sat upright in his seat, a guilty expression on his face and sleepy eyes betraying his lack of attention. Yefremova sighed.

"Go and have a word with Ms Cornwall, see what she has in mind and whether we can be of any assistance."

"With pleasure." Grinning, he left his seat.

She sighed. Poor girl. I hope I'm not feeding her to the wolves.