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01500 hours Friday Dec 3 4050:
2 small fleets and 1 large utility fleet slowly made there way threw a large blue white foggy opening in space. (Worm hole this applies to any one in the North West comer of the galaxy) the sleek large and small ships poured threw arriving moments later at the other end of the wormhole, there distention 3 systems side by side with each other rocky barely habitable systems that wouldn’t be much use to any one , the convoys split in to 3 medium sized groups , there large nacelles and engines revved up as they engaged there warp and slip stream drives towards the systems arriving hours later , on the flag ship of this grate expedition is captain Howard Sandoval. He sat back in his chair sighing as his fellow officers working around him . the ships arrived at there dentations ,

Estimated time until Missile base completions and deployment : 10 ns months

OOC: Ok, im not really interested in your procrastination right now, stop trying to cause a incident. If your looking for a reply, you'll have to wait.

The union government deiced to build 4 more missile complexes in 3 more systems.
The estimated time until completion: 2 ns years

THERE IS NO SUCH TIME UNIT AS AN 'NS YEAR.'

THERE IS NO SUCH TIME UNIT AS AN 'NS YEAR.'
There isint ? hmm i never knew that ..

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.. a year later convoys with IGBM missiles began arriving to 7 distinct missile bases in the gamma sector. Over 50 IGBMS were being deviled at each base Starfleet command had also instructed 8 th fleet to fortify the sector these 7 Missile complexes were located

((OOC ...you make my brain hurt in new and unpleasant ways. If there useing warp drives there NOT Ballistic!!!))

((How does a galaxy have a North West? Aren't North and West defined by a planet's magnetic polarization and rotation? What is the North West corner of the galaxy?))

((How does a galaxy have a North West? Aren't North and West defined by a planet's magnetic polarization and rotation? What is the North West corner of the galaxy?))
OOC: Its an arbitrarily defined direction based off the location of Earth, which is dead south I believe.

OOC:

Wow, so TFU has managed to plan, research, and deploy inter/intragalactic missile systems that can reach other galaxies in a ludicrously minute about of time, and still have enough fuel to manuever, make attitude adjustments, and hit the intended target...

And he/she/it's done this within... two years (Roleplaying time)?

Certainly quite an accomplishment.

I don't care how much trektech you wank into this. No offense, but you're full of shit.

*IGNORED*, and I urge others to do the same.

Warning!
Keep out of reach of children. If you've read this thread, get medical help or contact a Poison Control center right away.

OOC: Okay, I just have to do this.

IC: Taking into account the rapid deployment of these IGM systems, the Space Empire of Foe Hammer is pleased to announce that it has fully planned, researched, built and deployed a full arsenal of Intergalactic Missile Interceptors.

Realizing that TFU will counter with IGMI Interceptors, we have also researched and deployed Intergalactic Missile Interceptor Interceptor Interceptors.

Just as a precautionary measure, we have also deployed Intergalactic Missile Interceptor Interceptor Interceptor Interceptor Interceptors.

....

*sad bump*

((OOC: I'm really sorry, hun. But I think I'm going to have to ignore this thread too. It really is a bit over the top. Sorry.))

Well ok let me clarify there Intra galactic ballistic missiles no inter intra .. witch means basically interstellar only not inter galactic

Well ok let me clarify there Intra galactic ballistic missiles no inter intra .. witch means basically interstellar only not inter galactic

OOC: Still impractical, impossibile, and if I may say so, stupid.

Uhh not really ooc most people are ok with the missiles they just ruin a planets environment

OOC:
So, why not just warp a ship in, launch a few hundred small bombs or fire a planetbuster of some sort, then vanish?
It would be cheaper, and you wouldnt need to develope huge amounts of missiles and engines and stuff.

Uhh not really ooc most people are ok with the missiles they just ruin a planets environment

OOC: Its not the payload, you could have a missile that turns everyone gay for all I care. Its the launching them and hitting a target billions of miles away thats the impossible part. Even if you pull fuel out of your ass there's no way a missile will get to the target in a decent amount of time, if at all.

ooc: TFU, I think the primary problem with this is the fact that you've decided to build and deploy multiple OMG! RAWR! planet killah missiles "complexs" in several arbitrary "systems" in roughly.....9 lines of what could loosely be refered to as "RP". No reason as to why you would want "IGBMs", who they're supposed to deter, or even how you stumbled upon this.....brilliant strategem. Not to mention that such developments, if regarded as acceptable RP at all, would be met with massive amounts of arms race ramp ups; not that NS doesn't already have them.

ooc: TFU, I think the primary problem with this is the fact that you've decided to build and deploy multiple OMG! RAWR! planet killah missiles "complexs" in several arbitrary "systems" in roughly.....9 lines of what could loosely be refered to as "RP". No reason as to why you would want "IGBMs", who they're supposed to deter, or even how you stumbled upon this.....brilliant strategem. Not to mention that such developments, if regarded as acceptable RP at all, would be met with massive amounts of arms race ramp ups; not that NS doesn't already have them.

OOC: To answer one question, their supposed to deter Arenumberg, Bandalok, and myself. However since I'm the only one of the three who haven't ignored him outright, their basically aimed only at me. Not that I would respond to any such attack, since it would require millions of years to happen.

Skeez they have FTL drives? im only going to have 1500 of them max and only like 16 in the gamma sector

Skeez they have FTL drives? im only going to have 1500 of them max and only like 16 in the gamma sector

The Milky Way galaxy, IIRC, is something like 100,000 light years across. Skeelzania is located about 25,000 LYs in from the 'border', and 40,000 LYs from Sol. For your missiles to hit me in a reasonable amount of time (i.e., before my fleets smash you) they would need to be traveling at tremendous speesd far in excess of that of light. If their FTL drives have them remain on this physical plane (as their name, 'missile' implies),then the missiles would probably break apart under the stress of traveling at greater-than-light speeds, unless you sent them through hyperspace but then you lose any hope of them actually popping up in the right place. And if you are firing them through hyperspace then what the hell is the god damn point of even having missile complexes since you could just warp in a bomb from your homeworld.

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1. An FTL missile is not ballistic, as Doc (Zepplin) said it before.

2. If ships can travel this vast distances, why shouldn't missiles be able to do it? Sure, they will be big, for fuel and shit, but still.

Thus, I fail to see Skeelzania's point. If a spacedyship can do it (And it can, or at leats his can), why not a missile (Which is, basically, an unmanned aerial or spacedy vehicle)?

So, the problem is not that it is possible. When you have spacedyships crossing significant parts of the galaxy, then it is possible.

The same goes for navigation. If you can navigate your spacedyships, you can navigate your missiles. No problem there.

Furthermore, I sincerely doubt that, say, Skeelzania RPs, uh... the construction of every ship in his fleet (And there really is no reason to do it), so I don't see why TFU should be forced to do it with mere missiles.

So, in essence, the problem is merely a problem of designation (Intragalactic Ballistic Missile being wrong, Interstellar Strategic Missile being correct) and a few points about continuity (Why constructing them bases etc), that can be solved with a 'ok, so TFU engineers prefer the complex solutions over the simple ones'.

Boys, really... Just because TFU does a lot of stupid things doesn't mean you can immediately consider everything he does as ignorable... Without thinking.

Boys, really... Just because TFU does a lot of stupid things doesn't mean you can immediately consider everything he does as ignorable... Without thinking.

Sure it does.

Sure it does.

Then what are you doing in one of his threads, posting?

Its cleared up and for the love of god stop NIT PICKING ON THE NAME.. NIT PICKING ON THE NAME IS SILLY its un productive .. skeez is main designed as a siege weapon ... some of my tactical torpedo destroyers carry a pair or 2.. any way ignore it if you want .

Thus, I fail to see Skeelzania's point. If a spacedyship can do it (And it can, or at leats his can), why not a missile (Which is, basically, an unmanned aerial or spacedy vehicle)?

I agree with you in part, Der Angst. I don't want eight pages of RP about building an unmanned spaceship loaded with explosives. However, I, and many others, would like something bigger than a small paragraph. TFU put absolutely no thought into it. Saying "okay i now have these and im building them" just doesn't work like it did back in the day, especially when you've misspelled easy words in the single paragraph.

And what happened to the research? Certainly they aren't researching it while they're BUILDING it. You can't just draw up a design for an interstellar missile on a piece of graph paper and begin to build it. It takes many years, if not decades, to research design possibilities, acquire funding, DESIGN the damn thing (figuring where you're going to store the 10037475872837547587297389327 bajillion gallons/liters of fuel you'd need, because it's horribly unproductive to have to refuel a missile in mid-flight :P) and other long, expensive tasks.

I'd have no problem with an interstellar missile. I, and many others, just want more effort from TFU. Saying "okay i have thes n u r skrewd n im bilding them" is practically- nigh, it IS wanking. How stable is cardboard at past-lightspeed? Hmm... I'll go ahead and do the math on that one, as it appears that TFU doesn't like doing the math.

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"It's an Archer rocket!"
"It's an interstellar missile!"
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I'll take eight. I can afford them thinks to my neutronium mines in the eight galaxies I control with the fleet of Death Stars I designed, built, and employed yesterday afternoon.

Wombat News Report (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7633645#post7633645)

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"Predident Kowalski, on the note of TFU's building intergalaxy missiles, simply laughed and said, 'Those idiots couldn't build that in two hundred years, much less two. Our military will probably ignore the possibility of them.' "

And what happened to the research? Certainly they aren't researching it while they're BUILDING it. You can't just draw up a design for an interstellar missile on a piece of graph paper and begin to build it. It takes many years, if not decades, to research design possibilities, acquire funding, DESIGN the damn thing (figuring where you're going to store the 10037475872837547587297389327 bajillion gallons/liters of fuel you'd need, because it's horribly unproductive to have to refuel a missile in mid-flight :P) and other long, expensive tasks.

Mistel didn't take 'many years if not decades.' Or did you forget you can build a simpilistic missile just by removing the front of an aircraft [or spacecraft] and replacing it with a large warhead? It wouldn't be particularly taxing to perform a similiar operation on an existing starship body to create a missile [hell, those Fed warp-capable fighters would be perfect], the only real challenge would be guiding it.

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"Predident Kowalski, on the note of TFU's building intergalaxy missiles, simply laughed and said, 'Those idiots couldn't build that in two hundred years, much less two. Our military will probably ignore the possibility of them.' "
Don’t make me slag your home world. (mr ignored by most people)

Also :GMC your pretty right it is easy to make a missile i don’t know why people are so bent out of shape because of this I mean its just a missile

Look, I've only been ignored thrice, and I fixed that a month ago. You, however, are ignored by almost everyone including Sephiroth and old Hataria. So as to keep this from being a flame fest, I shall withdraw from this discussion.