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FIFA world cup will start this December, the sign ups will start this Friday, ladies and gentlemen, get ready for an exciting, heart thrilling. Magical competition,

We have one formula for games, and one for our matches simulation, this formula is for only match simulation, it works only if you have the RP bonus for the day and all the components of it have been changed, this is not like NSWC and we have nothing to do with them. We are a separate and better WORLD CUP. Our FIFA organization is also going to have a 3 heads,

They are the following:

1. The president [me]
2. Vice-president [candidates under consideration]
3. Cup organizer [nominated by the vice-president, approved by the president]

In order to stop Confusion before it starts we have decided I have decided to make me the head of the world cup and we have candidates for the vice- presidential seat.

People will fill all this seats and it could be you.


The players below are not allowed to participate in anything we do until further notice to allow them is given.

TnUI
Hiiraan
Liverpool England
Vilita

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Ok, with that done, lets start the questions and the discussion.

Any question you have will be answered and we will answer it to you and.

We can either answer your question here or we can telegram it to you.

It’s your choice.

Question: What has the FIFA World Cup got which the NS World Cup hasn't? What is there in the FIFA World Cup to tempt me to participate in this, an untried, untested project, and not the NS World Cup, which has kept me enthralled for one and a half years now.

Basically, what are your specific reasons for setting up this 'alternative football world cup'. Is it a quarrell with how the NSWC is run? Is it a 'lets get back to basics' idea which hopes to get the NSWC to open its eyes and shift itself back to where it was?

Question: What has the FIFA World Cup got which the NS World Cup hasn't? What is there in the FIFA World Cup to tempt me to participate in this, an untried, untested project, and not the NS World Cup, which has kept me enthralled for one and a half years now.

Basically, what are your specific reasons for setting up this 'alternative football world cup'? Is it a quarrell with how the NSWC is run? Is it a 'lets get back to basics' idea which hopes to get the NSWC to open its eyes and shift itself back to where it was?

Audioslavia: What has the FIFA World Cup got which the NS World Cup hasn't?

Answer: FIFA world cup is basically a better game than NSWC, I will tell you what FIFA world cup has that NSWC does not,

FIFA world cup does not have too much bureaucracy, FIFA world cup does not have a dominating team who wins every match they play in, FIFA world cup does not have all the hassles of competing in 2 tournaments at once, while both require Rping. FIFA world cup does not have one team hosting every cup from WC16 to WC...forever.

I will tell you what FIFA has, FIFA has the works of people who actually play Football, FIFA world cup has Good cups including one for clubs, FIFA world cup has all of the things that NSWC wishes to have but cant since VIL, or TnUI or LE don’t like them. FIFA world cup is open to the general public, WE do not VOTE and tell you the results, we actually show you who voted for who, basically we are secret society, rather an open one with a love for the beautiful game.

Question: What is there in the FIFA World Cup to tempt me to participate in this, an untried, untested project, and not the NS World Cup, which has kept me enthralled for one and a half years now.

Answer:

First of all we are not going to have another world cup when we just finished one, we are going to have actual dates we start things and actual dates we finish things, We are going to have faulty formulas that each one who participates hides, We allow our hosting players and even encourage them to use their own formulas, but one person, the president will check and test every formula before its used, basically we are not going to tell you we have a bad formula right in the middle of the CUP. What will make you participate in this cup are three things.

1. High level of organization
2. What everyone come to a cup for, "FUN"
3. And GOOD cups like the UEFA cup for clubs.

And the other thing we did to make sure you had fun is make a three week separation between every cup, so if the world cup finishes, there will be another 3 weeks before the next one comes, and so on for the UEFA cup and all of the other cups including the MARADONA cup, for newbiees, in the MARADONA cup, players actually have a choice and this cup will not happen the first time around, it will rather happen the next time around.

I hope the above answer your question, any more questions

That sounds fair enough. I'll definately be participating, but its going to take a hell of a lot to get me to stop playing the NS World Cup.

Quick Question: Who are you? and no cryptic answers please :p

I have to say, I'm liking the sound of this. It seems that in NSWC, as I go up the rankings I lose more games, and I getting sick and tired of it. NSWC is dominated by a small group of WCC members, and once you've annoyed one, there's no way back - ever! I may just switch my allegiance, although we'll see how I do tonight. If I don't win against a team ranked 40 places below me, consider me signed up NOW.

Just so you know, I think one of the main problems with NSWC is that nations are in charge of the competiton rather than people. If you had a named President, like Sepp Blatter, things could probably run a lot smoother, as it means nobody knows who you are and therefore cannot say you are cheating or bribing to win.

as I go up the rankings I lose more games, and I getting sick and tired of it... If I don't win against a team ranked 40 places below me, consider me signed up NOW.

Excuse me, did this bottle fly out of your pram, sir?

Just so you know, I think one of the main problems with NSWC is that nations are in charge of the competiton rather than people. If you had a named President, like Sepp Blatter, things could probably run a lot smoother, as it means nobody knows who you are and therefore cannot say you are cheating or bribing to win.

Yes, becuase we're all actual nations here, not people :headbang:

So who would be behind the 'named president'? A person or, wait... no... a nation?! OMFG! A nation running a committee! Run for the hills!

No, someone called Oceaice stole it without moving!

Anyway, if we don't know which 'nation' is behind the 'person', then the participants can't appeal to the nation's good nature, because for all they know it could be someone that totally despises them. Besides if I win today all this becomes totally irrelevant and I deny it, saying that the WCC is the best thing made by man - until I lose the game after that, after which I come back again.

It seems that in NSWC, as I go up the rankings I lose more games

This made me wonder, if you are losing more and more games, how are you going up the rankings?

It won't be long before the losses are more than the wins and it's back down the rankings again. Besides, I've probably already lost tonight's match after this - never mind the RP (as per usual).

Anyway, if we don't know which 'nation' is behind the 'person', then the participants can't appeal to the nation's good nature, because for all they know it could be someone that totally despises them.

That would get rather stupid, imho. People would (and do, when they need to) check nation log-in times and look for IP addresses to find out just it is. That's without assessing their spelling, grammer and general wordsmithery.

Like some are probably doing with 'FIFA World Cup' right now.




And on a sperate point, how can you be claim to be both 'more organised' but have 'less beaurocracy'? Oh wait, one person making decisions. Gotcha.

I'm going to go now, and I'm not coming back until tomorrow evening, when I will check my scores for today. We'll see how I'm feeling then.

I don't know.... I was attracted to the WC because of the established history behind it. I do agree that we need a longer break between cups. I'm working on a domestic league but I'm trying to figure out just when my international squad will be able to compete.

I guess I wish you the best of luck, but I doubt many nations will enter only your cup and not the WC. I just like to see leagues work together instead of apart. I'm sure you can run your own invitational using whatever methods you like.

I have to say, I'm liking the sound of this. It seems that in NSWC, as I go up the rankings I lose more games, and I getting sick and tired of it. NSWC is dominated by a small group of WCC members, and once you've annoyed one, there's no way back - ever! I may just switch my allegiance, although we'll see how I do tonight. If I don't win against a team ranked 40 places below me, consider me signed up NOW.

Just so you know, I think one of the main problems with NSWC is that nations are in charge of the competiton rather than people. If you had a named President, like Sepp Blatter, things could probably run a lot smoother, as it means nobody knows who you are and therefore cannot say you are cheating or bribing to win.

By that logic, nations like Maserrat would never get out of the 150-rank. because they'd keep losing to nations ranked 110...

I think you generalize how badly you can get out of favor with someone.

TBF been "out of favor" more than one time in the last year, and now he is "in."

That sounds fair enough. I'll definately be participating, but its going to take a hell of a lot to get me to stop playing the NS World Cup.

Quick Question: Who are you? and no cryptic answers please :p

My nation will be revealed after the sign ups are over, we will hold the last place in the in the sign ups,

I welcome any nation who wants to basically have FUN, and nothing more, and the NSWC is now considering banning or taking Rping, wow, they already took out 50% of the FUN and now they are considering removing what makes any world cup FUN, the RP bonus, I cant believe that the NSWC is saying they have NO trust in their players,

I have also spoken to the founder of the NSWC, Arridia , he too. Claims he has been thrown and his cup has been taken over, he recently told me he condemns every NSWC activities when asked why, he quickly replied, the have taken over my piece of property in the NS by the means of a coup,

by the way i hope there are NO cryptic answers.

Audioslavia: What has the FIFA World Cup got which the NS World Cup hasn't?

Answer: FIFA world cup is basically a better game than NSWC, I will tell you what FIFA world cup has that NSWC does not,

FIFA world cup does not have too much bureaucracy, FIFA world cup does not have a dominating team who wins every match they play in, FIFA world cup does not have all the hassles of competing in 2 tournaments at once, while both require Rping. FIFA world cup does not have one team hosting every cup from WC16 to WC...forever.

I will tell you what FIFA has, FIFA has the works of people who actually play Football, FIFA world cup has Good cups including one for clubs, FIFA world cup has all of the things that NSWC wishes to have but cant since VIL, or TnUI or LE don’t like them. FIFA world cup is open to the general public, WE do not VOTE and tell you the results, we actually show you who voted for who, basically we are secret society, rather an open one with a love for the beautiful game.

Question: What is there in the FIFA World Cup to tempt me to participate in this, an untried, untested project, and not the NS World Cup, which has kept me enthralled for one and a half years now.

Answer:

First of all we are not going to have another world cup when we just finished one, we are going to have actual dates we start things and actual dates we finish things, We are going to have faulty formulas that each one who participates hides, We allow our hosting players and even encourage them to use their own formulas, but one person, the president will check and test every formula before its used, basically we are not going to tell you we have a bad formula right in the middle of the CUP. What will make you participate in this cup are three things.

1. High level of organization
2. What everyone come to a cup for, "FUN"
3. And GOOD cups like the UEFA cup for clubs.

And the other thing we did to make sure you had fun is make a three week separation between every cup, so if the world cup finishes, there will be another 3 weeks before the next one comes, and so on for the UEFA cup and all of the other cups including the MARADONA cup, for newbiees, in the MARADONA cup, players actually have a choice and this cup will not happen the first time around, it will rather happen the next time around.

I hope the above answer your question, any more questions


These sound like good ideas, but what exactly are the improvements you're talking about? What 'choice' would a newbie have in the MARADONA cup that is lacking in the Baptism of Fire? What rules do you have that are more fun? What makes the UEFA cup so good? What are you implementing that "VIL, or TnUI or LE" don't like?

I don't mean to be interrogative, I'm just trying to figure out what this is all about. I hate to say it, but it sounds a lot like you're just making this tournament because you had a fight with the WCC over something. I'm toying with the idea of a baseball tournament in the future, so I'd like to know what sort of issues come up and what solutions people think of.

I have also spoken to the founder of the NSWC, Arridia , he too. Claims he has been thrown and his cup has been taken over, he recently told me he condemns every NSWC activities when asked why, he quickly replied, the have taken over my piece of property in the NS by the means of a coup,

by the way i hope there are NO cryptic answers.

Prove it. By the way, telegrams will not be taken as proff as they can be faked. I want Arry to post here.

Quite honestly, I see the current attempt in setting up a rival NationStates Footballing Federation is making role playing less fun. It seems that FIFA wants to bring back the "fun" of it all, but creating this schism is sucking out all the fun of the World Cup. The World Cup is supposed to be the premier NS sporting event where all the best teams in the World are to fight for the greatest prize. With this world cup, you have some great teams one place and some great teams other places...therefore you do not have a true World Champion. Sure there is bureaucracy and such, but if you want the organization you plan, unless its going to be run like a dictatorship, you are going to have bureaucracy as well. I just ignore the bureaucracy and play it. I once was out of favor for my bungling of the Cup of Harmony after World Cup 13...but time healed all things and now i am in favor. We go in and out all the time, but no one is denied a seat of participation as only the game mods toss nations out. As for scorination, every host does it differently, and I feel that takes away the generalizations one makes by saying that there is one dominant side. It is checks and balances.

Either way, usually I am quite the diplomatic type, but I want to say what i see this is, personal vendetta. You don't like the current system for some reason, so you are going to try and cause a split by creating a rival tournament. Your reasons behind this are clearly a smokescreen. Just play the game and realize the scorination will change for the next cup. Please don't spoil the beautiful game for the rest of us!

That said, Melmond and the Melmondic Nations want no part of this tourney.

Questions answered

To Adams island:

The improvements I am talking about are, improvement made not by the players, a lot of players are tired of making unrecognized changes for the better. The players seek to have the basic thing they came for, they came for the basic thing we have a world cup for, they are the not as to say have to change, The organization, the heads of the actually laws and the system must make changes to satisfy all and the majority.

Changes

Ranking

Pure ranking is only for the world cup, you see, that would make us better and it would make us not care about other cups, well just like real life we will have some amounts of the Maradona cup count, but it will be so little you wont even notice it.

The other thing I have said I will change in this better version of the world cup is not to have a KPB or any other system of Pure ranking, I will rather do that on my own or whoever is hosting it and then post the their former ranking, Then post the new ranking and that would be the only thing you will but you will also see the UP and down points.

For example:

Nation rank Former rank U/D Points
R+B 5 6 +1
UF 17 9 -8
all of the above are example table ranking

So you can see that example nation is R+B is rank fifth and used to be in the 6th spot, so it went up by one point and you can also see that example nation 2, UF is 17 but used to be 9, which means he is -8 spots down.

I think this is way better than showing just raw numbers of your rank, they raw numbers are boring and will not be shown in this cup, unless requested.

Ok, now lets go to Melmond:

Melmond, what you said is true but you have to see that no one can stand and no want to see to play a cup that has been abducted and taken over by some freaks who actually think they are doing good. They first of all forgot three things that happen in football.

1. Rankings of the National team is not incorporated or added to the rankings of the U21 team

2. Player made cups should not count for in the overall cup in a heavy way; for example, it would not take beyond +1 up or down

3. Invitational cups are not made by the Host, the host should be able to invite people, rather, inviting people should be made a standard, for example, the FIFA world cup system's of inviting is this,

To be invited to any of our cups, you must had been rping at least for one full cup

You must RP in the actual cup you are invited to

And lastly you must play fair and so on, [no godmodding/flaming/accusing/]

So imagine invitational by this system rather than an old system of whoever is in the IRC is invited, I take this from the CoH.

1. Rankings of the National team is not incorporated or added to the rankings of the U21 team

2. Player made cups should not count for in the overall cup in a heavy way; for example, it would not take beyond +1 up or down

3. Invitational cups are not made by the Host, the host should be able to invite people, rather, inviting people should be made a standard, for example, the FIFA world cup system's

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an old system of whoever is in the IRC is invited, I take this from the CoH.

1. What do over-21 players have to do with the Under-21 team? NAtional Rank has nothing to do with U21 rank, though U21 Rank is a measure of how well your Senior team might perform in the future.

2. Player-made cups? I assume you mean like the Eagle's Cup, with uses KPB rankings but doesn't affect them in any way.

3. What? Inviting people to come and compete is different to... inviting people to come and have to RP?

...

The CoH invites anyone who has shown enthusiasm or a high quality of RPs and hasn't made it to the World Cup. And the Channel Record for Users on #sport is 14, which isn't enough to fill the CoH even if everybody failed to qualify.

Appointments:

As I have said before, its time to name names, and name names for the 3 Big seats in the FIFA committee, the only committee that actually exists in the FIFA world cup system, anything that needs to be done are don’t by those three and not to complicate things we do not want any hosts to be part of this committee and have actual power in and influence in this three, but we want our hosts to be part of the of the FIFA host's Club,

The club is for former nation that actually hosted a world cup; this club has some little more seniority that a regular nation, maybe this is because they have been here longer than un-hosting nation.

For whatever reason it is, the Host's club is per say an idea group, recommendation and a group that has no power at all, NO voting power by they have the power to ask for things/recommend changes.

They too. Also listen to what matters, they actual nations who play our cups.

Today I am going to announce one thing, the first is to fill the vice presidents seat and I will announce three candidates for the job, whoever they are they will be announced today.

And once they are announced and they fell they don’t want to be a vice president then they can ask to be dropped as a nominee for vice president.

Here are the three c candidates/nominees for vice president:

Drum rolls:

1. Snub Nose 38

2. Maserrat

3. Audioslavia
Those three ladies and gentleman deserve to be named vice presidents and all are candidates. However the vice presidential seats fits only one person and that person will be chosen today if possible, tomorrow if necessary.

The last seat's candidates will be named as soon as this is over.

Appointments:
Drum rolls:

1. Snub Nose 38

2. Maserrat

3. Audioslavia
Those three ladies and gentleman deserve to be named vice presidents and all are candidates. However the vice presidential seats fits only one person and that person will be chosen today if possible, tomorrow if necessary.

The last seat's candidates will be named as soon as this is over.

Whew! All three of them can spell and use good grammar, so they can finally tell me what's going on with all this in a way I can understand.

1. What do over-21 players have to do with the Under-21 team? NAtional Rank has nothing to do with U21 rank, though U21 Rank is a measure of how well your Senior team might perform in the future.

2. Player-made cups? I assume you mean like the Eagle's Cup, with uses KPB rankings but doesn't affect them in any way.

3. What? Inviting people to come and compete is different to... inviting people to come and have to RP?

...

The CoH invites anyone who has shown enthusiasm or a high quality of RPs and hasn't made it to the World Cup. And the Channel Record for Users on #sport is 14, which isn't enough to fill the CoH even if everybody failed to qualify.

Starblaydia [hope I am saying it right], you are confused what I meant by invitational, when invited to cup, a player has to show that he cares and he wants to be invited to that cup, and the reason we impose the HAVE TP RP is because we do not want hosts feeling there hosting time is not respected. So we want any nation who is invited to RP at least once or twice, so I am seem confusing on that one but actually that kind of system is better, that where the host invites player/nations.

Starblaydia, I do not know about you very much and heard from Hiiraan that you are the best knowledgeable people in the NSWC, I happily invite you to come to the FIFA WORLD CUP as its much better and much flexible than a three rule all system.

You are truly welcome to be part of the FIRST world cup, which actually resembles and play like FIFA. If you are a soccer player in real life then you wont miss this.

I am currently planning or choosing nominees for the 3rd seat and I am currently making you a 1st nominee and I wish you accept this better system.

Whew! All three of them can spell and use good grammar, so they can finally tell me what's going on with all this in a way I can understand.

Adams Island, They don’t know much of it, they know as much as you know about this system, WHY? Because I have not yet described to them one-on-one this new system which could be considered radical

By the way as newbiee and a Good nation/player, I want you to be a nominee for something if you accept. Its the most important job and you will stand shoulder to shoulder with others who I think will help you with a lot.

I congratulate you for getting into the Nomination bloc.


by the way, What dont you understan that they do?

Adams Island, They don’t know much of it, they know as much as you know about this system, WHY? Because I have not yet described to them one-on-one this new system which could be considered radical

By the way as newbiee and a Good nation/player, I want you to be a nominee for something if you accept. Its the most important job and you will stand shoulder to shoulder with others who I think will help you with a lot.

I congratulate you for getting into the Nomination bloc.


by the way, What dont you understan that they do?

The Republic of Adam Island thanks you for the compliments, but must respectfully decline the nomination. We do not feel we have enough experience, time or know-how to be an effective leader in a major sporting event as of yet.

Also, we are concerned with the secrecy behind these 'radical' new ideas. So far the only two reforms stated are how other tournaments affect the ratings and the scheduling conflicts, both of which are already being addressed in the other World Cup.

BTW, do Snub Nose, Maserrat and Audioslavia even known they're nominated?

You are truly welcome to be part of the FIRST world cup, which actually resembles and play like FIFA. If you are a soccer player in real life then you wont miss this.

I am currently planning or choosing nominees for the 3rd seat and I am currently making you a 1st nominee and I wish you accept this better system.

No thankyou, I'd rather help the NSWC evolve in the right manner than join this one.

And I play Football. Not Soccer.

The Republic of Adam Island thanks you for the compliments, but must respectfully decline the nomination. We do not feel we have enough experience, time or know-how to be an effective leader in a major sporting event as of yet.

Also, we are concerned with the secrecy behind these 'radical' new ideas. So far the only two reforms stated are how other tournaments affect the ratings and the scheduling conflicts, both of which are already being addressed in the other World Cup.

BTW, do Snub Nose, Maserrat and Audioslavia even known they're nominated?

They sure do Adams Island don’t worry about them,

I have not offered or nominated you yet, we just put you in the nomination bloc, a bloc for potential nominee's.

But its ok if you get out of it, you will be replaced, I hope you can join us in FIFA and become a nation to be reckoned with in the future, ADAM, I know you have not experienced the bad of the NSWC, we did, trust US, we actually want you to come this better world cup, and by the way, when I said RADICAL, I meant considered RADICAL by the three who control every thing you do in NSWC, they considered it radical, this standard/rules are not in anyway radical, its rather to make us a perfect cups with all the fun.

When the FIFA world cup starts, you will actually want to participate rather than not participate, as it’s the case for player who have played more than one cup.

No thankyou, I'd rather help the NSWC evolve in the right manner than join this one.

And I play Football. Not Soccer.


I play Football too. I thought you lived in America, so I did not want to confuse you with the Football they have it in America and the Football we have in the rest of the world.

By the way, I call it Football and so as Hiiraan and everyone I live with

They sure do Adams Island don’t worry about them,

I have not offered or nominated you yet, we just put you in the nomination bloc, a bloc for potential nominee's.

But its ok if you get out of it, you will be replaced, I hope you can join us in FIFA and become a nation to be reckoned with in the future, ADAM, I know you have not experienced the bad of the NSWC, we did, trust US, we actually want you to come this better world cup, and by the way, when I said RADICAL, I meant considered RADICAL by the three who control every thing you do in NSWC, they considered it radical, this standard/rules are not in anyway radical, its rather to make us a perfect cups with all the fun.

When the FIFA world cup starts, you will actually want to participate rather than not participate, as it’s the case for player who have played more than one cup.

Um, its 'Adam Island,' not 'Adams Island.' If you're Hiiraan like I think you are, you've been competing for as long as I have.

When you figure out what these reforms are going to be and actually start the tournament instead of just this boring bureaucracy WCC protest, I'll come back and check it out.

Um, its 'Adam Island,' not 'Adams Island.' If you're Hiiraan like I think you are, you've been competing for as long as I have.

When you figure out what these reforms are going to be and actually start the tournament instead of just this boring bureaucracy WCC protest, I'll come back and check it out.


HIIRAAN!!!!, you mean khallid, What are you talking about, I am his friend AHMED< i have talked to rejis, and LE, both, were good as i said before and after risking a banning Hiiraan from his WCC friends i left and i have told them they will never see me there, the reson why Hiiraan anly come to the #sport.

and by the way, if you want to see my nation, go to my region and guess my nation and yeah Hiiraan is also not new.

To do list for tomorrow.

1. finish the 3 people [ choose them ]
2. Post about the how our fomula, and so on are, [ explain stuff basicially. ]
3. TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE "press confrence in #FIFA" [ you can ask me what you want, it will be live and I hope you guys make #FIFA an optional meeting place,and again i re-emphasize that, an OPTIONAL meeting place, you dont have to be there all the time, you can just come in anytime you want, or you can not just come, it does not matter to me. ]

and lastly


Inform people of the saturday sign ups.

If choosen we will enact first FIFA RULES for games/ players. and for the nations/players.

Inform players they can host or BID for the hosting job.

FLOF is feckin' ready tae play. The Free Lain ay Overt Flatulence has hud its national team in secrit trainin' fur th' lest year an' we ur prepared tae unleash uir side upon lae ay th' feckin' warld the-day!

Uir team has bin fed a special diit consistin' ay bananas, swally an' a special mashed bean paste gart frae some ay th' most noxioos fart producin' beans groon oan earth.

We wear uir national colors ay broon an' yella' wi' pride, content in th' feckin' knowledge 'at uir cuttie stains will be weel hid frae fans an' tele alike.

Brin' oan th' warld, th' Swampgas Wee Jimmies ay Overt Flatulence ur ready.


Phineas Flogg
Head Coach
National Side - Free Lain' ay Overt Flatulence

I have also spoken to the founder of the NSWC, Arridia , he too. Claims he has been thrown and his cup has been taken over, he recently told me he condemns every NSWC activities when asked why, he quickly replied, the have taken over my piece of property in the NS by the means of a coup,


I never said any such thing. Matter of fact, I've hardly spoken to anyone at all from NS in private recently. The reason I'm not very involved in WC matters is essentially the same as why I stopped participating in WCs: simple lack of time in real life.

I would thank you not to spread lies to further your cause. It's a despicable tactic.

(Thank you to the person who pointed this out to me, by the way.)

It's weird how your 3 nominees are the 3 who had good things to say about this idea...

Anyway, Maserrat is no longer in action, and has been replaced by me, South Osettia, who wants no part in this feat anymore - I'd rather concentrate on WC20, when hopefully Starblaydia and Druida can sort it out (we're rooting for you over here).

I never said any such thing. Matter of fact, I've hardly spoken to anyone at all from NS in private recently. The reason I'm not very involved in WC matters is essentially the same as why I stopped participating in WCs: simple lack of time in real life.

I would thank you not to spread lies to further your cause. It's a despicable tactic.

(Thank you to the person who pointed this out to me, by the way.)

Thanks for clearing that up dude :)

And thanks for the nomination FIFA World Cup, but i'm not a leader, im a soapboxer

FIFA world cup sign ups will be soon, although there have been less time and more thinking the time for the sign ups that will go on for 1 to 2 weeks will begin today but before the sign ups there will appointments.

Appointments for the Vice president:

Nominee selected is AUDIOSLAVIA but if he does not want to hold the post he will be replaced by the CUP commissioner who is now Maserrat, Maserrat is now a high level and a respected member of this group although I have chosen to make myself the president to minimize the confusion and minimize the time it takes to start this cup up with smooth transition. And I also we want to announce the SN38 has been removed from nomination and has been given a spot at the table, he is now given the position of CO-president of FIFA, this was done in order to minimize the abuse of power by one member.

President: ME CO: Snub nose 38
Vice president: Audioslavia
COC: Maserrat

The nomination bloc will be filled and I want to give out a notice that that all this seats above will be re-filled again in a new election that is going to be held every 6 months, it was originally every 3 months but I was informed that that is too little of a time.

The appointments are now over and what begins next is setting up the sign up thread.

I now go to the TG to inform others.

COC= commissioner of CUPS

I never said any such thing. Matter of fact, I've hardly spoken to anyone at all from NS in private recently. The reason I'm not very involved in WC matters is essentially the same as why I stopped participating in WCs: simple lack of time in real life.

I would thank you not to spread lies to further your cause. It's a despicable tactic.

(Thank you to the person who pointed this out to me, by the way.)


FIFA World Cup, you just lost any respect I might have had for you at all.

All i have to ask is this. Why be part of a cup ran by someone who lies to try to make his idea sound more important, and won't even let anyone know who he is?

FIFA World Cup, you just lost any respect I might have had for you at all.

All i have to ask is this. Why be part of a cup ran by someone who lies to try to make his idea sound more important, and won't even let anyone know who he is?


Eagles NEST, I feel quit sorry to hear that, I believe that reason arridia is saying this is because he properly thinks I am the person who spoke to him, I spoke to him through a nation that is not ME [as FIFA world CUP]. And I will reveal my nation as SOON as finish up they sign ups.

Eagles nest, I hope you sign up in FIFA world cup and quit honestly I think you will do good, by the way, nice meeting you [my first time talking to you.]

Lie one, shame on you. Lie twice. shame on me.

Ariddia will be approached to see if this is true.

and i assure you, the truth will be posted here...one way or another. and not by someone who hides behind a name.

Lie one, shame on you. Lie twice. shame on me.

Ariddia will be approached to see if this is true.

and i assure you, the truth will be posted here...one way or another. and not by someone who hides behind a name.

I have clearly informed you of my Intentions to reveal my nation Eagles nest, please do not worry. At this point we have to focus on the challenge of defeating this NSWC thing, they have corrupted and gave a bad name to all of sports RPing, you know why I know that, because every BAD NSWC stuff is in every SPORTS RP out there.

Moderators will be called in. Thank you for clearing that up, Arry.


MODS?......... I think you are something Liverpool ENGLAND, you may have terrorized a lot of newbies but this is FIFA, and you are exactly what we are trying to avoid, please subscribe to this forum, this rule applies to you, Vilita, and TnUI.

MODS?......... I think you are something Liverpool ENGLAND, you may have terrorized a lot of newbies but this is FIFA, and you are exactly what we are trying to avoid, please subscribe to this forum, this rule applies to you, Vilita, and TnUI.

I am already talking to one this very instant. Because that is pure impersonation.

Lie one, shame on you. Lie twice. shame on me.

Ariddia will be approached to see if this is true.

and i assure you, the truth will be posted here...one way or another. and not by someone who hides behind a name.

TEN: I was the one who first told Arry of that bit. And he has since said it isnt true. No need to ask a second time.

Eagles NEST, I feel quit sorry to hear that, I believe that reason arridia is saying this is because he properly thinks I am the person who spoke to him, I spoke to him through a nation that is not ME [as FIFA world CUP]. And I will reveal my nation as SOON as finish up they sign ups.


Just to clarify, I never said it to anyone, nor do I believe it to be the case. While I was happy to host the first World Cup, I had no objections to handing over the bulk of responsabilities after that to those who had more free time (and more enthusiasm for the technical aspects) than I had. (On the contrary, I've always been truly glad that the WC developed into something so far beyond what my expectations were when I started it.) Why do you think I never expressed a wish to host a second time? I just wouldn't have free time enough to see to it.

FIFA World Cup, I don't know who you are, but as I said I've spoken to very few people from NS recently, and to none of them have I said anything like that. Quite frankly I find your lying tactics offensive and disgusting. All the more so since they were absolutely not necessary to your cause.

Lying about a player's past actions to discredit them is not acceptable. Stop it. Now.

Notice: Thank you for the honor, but I must decline the offer of Co-Presidency

Maserrat has the same stance.

Appointing people to positions without even asking them first? Appointing a nation that is not even in use anymore? Heck, keep this thread going it's a great laugh :)

To FIFA World Cup, or whoever your master nation might be, I've gone through all your messages. All text in double quotation marks are quoted from you.

#1 "exciting, heart thrilling,. Magical competition. We are a...better WORLD CUP"
This is a very high promise to live to. All new Sport RPs, even the NSWC, are unable to work out such high standards in the first few tournaments. The NSWC is very fortunate to have the support of a dedicated team, otherwise it would never have survived for almost 1 year and 8 months (if I'm not wrong).

#3 "does not have a dominating team who wins every match they play in"
This may be correct, but ONLY to a moderate degree. The fact that there is a random function is to ensure that even the best teams MAY lose. It is neve a certainty.

"we...vote and tell you the results"
This is also true of the NSWC Everybody is quite transparent about who voted who, as far as I know. It's just that there is really no point knowing who voted who.

"we...even encourage them to use their own formulas"
This is also true of NSWC, we can use any formula we want, provided it is fair to all players and provides the random function to ensure high-ranking teams don't win all the time. If you feel that Leagion is something that is compulsory, then that is also a misconception. Leagion is just an easy way out for hosts if they don't want to come up with a formula and be bogged down with tables work.

"a 3 week seperation between every cup"
If 'cup' is defined as any tournament conducted, then 3 weeks is a very long time as interest will wane.

#15 To be honest, the RP bonus does not at all contribute to FUN. The RP bonus only serves to reward players with a higher POSSIBILITY of victory.

#19 Contrary to what you feel is a "pure ranking", the KPB ranking system is an effective method and I applaud KP, Beddy and whoever that had improved this system considerably. What might be at 'fault' would be the formulae used, given the fact that there is a random element.

"an old system of whoever is in IRC is invited, I take this from the CoH"
This is not true. I did not qualify for WC12, and was invited by TG, not IRC, so don't generalise. It only seems that way because most avid RPers are on IRC often. Starblaydia has also adderssed this as well.

#23 "impose the HAVE TO RP"
Compulsory RPing does not sound very fun to me.

"host invites nations"
It is almost impossible to find 32 dedicated and interested RPers at any one instant. It took us 18 cups, and continuing, to find such a large pool of dedicated RPers.

#31 "make #FIFA an optional meeting place"
#sport, by the way, is ALSO an optional meeting place

#36 Your suggested committee consists of only 2 top members. So instead of one power-abusers, there are two. Doesn't really help the cause does it?

And finally, I return to #15. Your lie about Arridia. This alone will make everyone lose ALL trust in you. And note, you had not offended a high-power player. You had insulted a player that presently has very little involvement in the NSWC, so your points (in other threads) about 'offending a high-power member and you are out' does not hold at all.

I don't think anything you do can salvage the situation.

I'm only saying this because I feel that it is ridiculous to continue any further. The moment your lie was revealed, what hope you had to overturn the NSWC was instantly lost. I don't mean to sound sarcarstic, but the only constructive thing you have done is to add to our controvery-filled history.

Appointing people to positions without even asking them first? Appointing a nation that is not even in use anymore? Heck, keep this thread going it's a great laugh :)

I have mailed each one of them before i even considered it.

I have mailed each one of them before i even considered it.


Apparently you didnt wait for any acceptance of the position, as they are all denying here on the forum.

Just to clarify, I never said it to anyone, nor do I believe it to be the case.

*snip*

FIFA World Cup, I don't know who you are, but as I said I've spoken to very few people from NS recently, and to none of them have I said anything like that. Quite frankly I find your lying tactics offensive and disgusting. All the more so since they were absolutely not necessary to your cause.

*crosses arms*

Point made.

FIFA, you are a liar. and i will not nor ever join your "attempt" to make a new cup..just like I didn't join Hiiraan's idea, I will not join yours either. The two (or one) of you need to just accept that your lies, manipulations, and boldface untrue/uninformed accusations have done nothing but made your attempt a lost cause.

Congratulations.

*permanetly stays in lurker form to read this thread only for the humor value*

FIFA, when i said 'im not a leader, im a soapboxer' i was saying that i wasn't interested in being Vice President, sorry dude