NationStates Jolt Archive

Hello, and thank you for listening. This is a desperate plea for help. Samtonia is threatened by the forces of a nation whose technological virtues are far in excess of our own. We need help. Ma-Tek will not be stopped by reason or compassion.

As such, Samtonia is willing to listen to any bid, any offer, any deal. Anything. We are willing to pay almost any sum, honor almost every request. But we need more advanced tech. Space travel is a plus, as Ma-Tek threatens us from the stars, as are land based planetary defenses. And allies are even more helpful.

Please, help Samtonia remain free. Fight the imperialistic aggression of Ma-Tek. Save a free Samtonia. And hey, you might just pick up some preferential trade deals, large amounts of cash, or other beneficial objects your nation desires in the process.

Please. Help us.

Ma-Tek will probably make claims that we wish to “destroy our people” that our fairly elected government is “not in the best interests of the Samtonian people.” Indeed, they have already called us a tyrannical power for threatening to use nuclear weapons, the only weapon we have capable of inducing fear even into their hearts, if we are again threatened by forces we cannot even touch with our technology.

We love the fact that a nation that gets its jollies out of launching missiles into Samtonian hospitals decides to attempt to call us the tyrannical power.

Yes, for that is why the standoff has begun. This power with advanced weaponry has seen it just to stick its glorified nose into a nation's sovereign right to do as it pleases, use that power it has because of its advanced weapons to laud its "superiority" over every other nation on the planet as well as the entire human race, and then react to Samtonia's promise to use the only weapons we have that rival theirs as a deterrent to an attack on Samtonia by promising to exterminate, in essence, humanity, and certainly every Samtonian on the planet.

Because don't think for a minute Samtonia chooses to use WMDs as a first resort; indeed, we sent out this cry for help so we might adequately defend ourselves without having to use WMDs. But Ma-Tek shows their true colors by attempting to threaten any nation who aids us, as matters in the past have shown. If Ma-Tek truly did not want WMDs used, truly did not want harm to befall Samtonian citizens, they would not embark on their course of action.

If the nation of Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they never would have attacked Samtonia. If Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would have offered reparations to the victims of their callous attack. And if Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would have apologized. They would have stood down their advanced vessels of war that even now remain in orbit in space above Samtonia. They would have never threatened to wipe out every Samtonian if any rightfully obtained weapon that happened to rival theirs in power was used. And if Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would never have violated Samtonia's sovereignty.

If your country cares at all for the decision making process it currently has, if your government at all cares about the freedoms all countries deserve, and if your country at all cares about the ideals espoused by every philosopher, poet, and reactionary in history, it is time for a stand.

Time for a stand against a jack-booted dictatorship attempting to assert its will over any country not strong enough to stand against it alone. Time for a stand against the murderers of thousands of innocent Samtonians, lying sick in their hospital beds. Time for a stand against the lies, hate, and pure and blind idiocy of Ma-Tek.

Citizens of the galaxy, whatever your race, whatever your allegiance, whatever your creeds. If you want a galaxy and a Terra where countries can make decisions based on the will of their governments and the people in them, you are automatically Samtonia's ally. If you believe a nation who has been attacked has a right to defend itself, you are Samtonia's ally. And if you believe for a minute that none of the things we have said apply, then you are an ally of Ma-Tek and an ally that we wouldn't have anyway.

The choice is clear. Please, for the safety, well-being, and sovereignty of Samtonia, aid us. Unless you want to see yet another nation absorbed into the growing and ever-hungry maw of Ma-Tek. A maw that, when sated by small countries such as our own, will surely turn to "intervene" in your affairs and assimilate you as well.

Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Offer rescended

Bump for innocent Samtonians

"What utter piffle. We have issued no threats against Samtonia, and continue to stand back and watch with great amusement as that state strives ever and anon to hurl itself beyond the rim of a sheer rockface of its own making.

"For Samtonian lies have built this entire event into something it is not; military targets and military targets alone were fired upon during careful surgical strikes - originally intended to be the prelude to a larger campaign to 'persuade' warring parties to cease their aggressive movements against each other, in which situation Samtonia through what may or may not have been happenstance was intertwined.

"Yet they utter lie upon lie and expect those lies to be ignored. Our honour is at stake, and honour is held to be one of the Three Central Tenets of our society and culture. Yet still we stay our hand; is this behaviour not Just? Is this lack of action not resolute to our ever-stated self-set task of stability, harmony, and justice for all?

"Are we not merciful beyond words when we allow our name to be tarnished by foul-speaking persons who do nought but prove themselves to be barbarous, uncivilized? Are they not children, striving to throw sticks and stones and evil words at the older one which seeks only to end their disagreement with their peers?

"The Samtonians name us a dictatorship, yet never has any greater lie been spoken. Our constitution is open to the reading of all: in that constitution the freedoms and obligations of the people are balanced and fair; and the constitution was accepted by a vast majority of the population - nay, a vast super-majority! Is that not democracy?

"Previous to the threats of the Samtonian government, the citizens of that state were utterly free to enter the Commonality; I do not have figures to hand, but I do not doubt that tourists from Samtonia who have seen our pleasant land are finding themselves confused at the actions of their government: and millions of people worldwide who have visited Iluvauromen share this feeling, I have no doubt. For the Commonality is a shining beacon of freedom and democracy, where all citizens are equal regardless of status, and all may climb to the very highest echelons of society; where housing is expected, where healthcare is never withheld but given freely as a matter of course; where each and every citizen will partake in the direct governance of their homeland at some stage in their life, and as their land serves them they must serve it; this is the democratic partnership of Individual and State: this is True Democracy.

"How then, are we a dictatorship? I hear none but the Voice of the People dictating, from the hallowed halls of Imperial House and People's House - for if we are a dictatorship, it is a dictatorship lead by billions.

"And as for a claim of our intentions to wipe out Humanity: we are Humanity. The vast majority of the population is Human. Why would we seek to destroy ourselves?

"To those who would aid Samtonia, I say this; there is no war. We do not seek conquest; why would we need to conquer Samtonia? Believe us when we say that, were that our goal, Samtonians would not be in a position to be asking for aid. If we willed it, we could block all electromagnetic transmissions in or out of Samtonia under a blanket of white noise and radio signals transmitted from a fleet of warships; and if we willed it, our forces would already be marching through the streets of Samtonia, occupying her.

"There would be no time for resistance, were we conquerers, and were we attacking that land. We are not. We do not have warships positioned in orbit above Samtonia, either. We have not pierced space that is Samtonian 'owned' under our interpretation of the Law - that is space directly above Samtonia. Free Earth Space - space not owned or controlled by any power - is for the use of all of the citizens of this world, and our ships will go where they please therein. The sovereignty of Samtonia, therefore, has not been breached in that manner.

"'Fear' nuclear weapons? We do not fear nuclear arms. We abhor them; but we do not fear them. Why should we? We are nigh on impenetrable to their attack. None have ever succesfully struck Iluvauromen soil with a weapon of that type - and some have indeed tried. Those who use weapons of mass destruction, however, must be punished. The international community surely understands that need.

"Therefore, if Samtonia were to deploy such weapons against us, we would be forced to respond - whether or not the attack was successful. The willingness of a government to deploy such weapons is a sure sign that that government is a danger to both its own people - and the people of every nation in the world. For if Samtonia is willing to use such weapons against us...why not any other high-tech state?

"We are sure our point is clearly made.

"However, it is my duty to warn that the People of the Commonality will not accept any attack upon them. Such an attack against the Contiguous Commonality would be considered an act of war, and would require by law the full use of lethal arms rather than the usual bias towards non-lethal arms. We would be forced to defend ourselves to the fullest degree: thus, in the interest of the well-being of all people, we urge Samtonia to stand back and end its current course - and those who would aid her to look elsewhere for more just and noble causes."

~ High Lord Commodore Aglar ux-Rihad, High Lord of the Sol Orbital Colony of Vilya Elenosto/First Minister of the Iluvauromeni Space Administration

This does not describe the Ma-Tek that we know, love and dream of having snuggle-bunnies with...

...methinks the Samtonians are a wee bit paranoid.

I've never heard bad things about Ma-Tek, in fact, I was led to believe he is one of the more benign forces out there, as well as a heckuva good RPer...

This does not describe the Ma-Tek that we know, love and dream of having snuggle-bunnies with...

...methinks the Samtonians are a wee bit paranoid.

[OOC: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Not sure how to take the first part...

...but the second can't be disagreed with. Nosiree. Except, of course, ICEL is kinda (quite openly) watching them with orbital assets... So... um. Anyway-]

I've never heard bad things about Ma-Tek, in fact, I was led to believe he is one of the more benign forces out there, as well as a heckuva good RPer...

[OOC: Thanks! IC support would've been more useful, though. In both cases. Lets not clutter Samtonia's thread with OOC chit-chat, though. :)]

We have rescended our offer to Samtonia.

Hello, and thank you for listening. This is a desperate plea for help. Samtonia is threatened by the forces of a nation whose technological virtues are far in excess of our own. We need help. Ma-Tek will not be stopped by reason or compassion.

As such, Samtonia is willing to listen to any bid, any offer, any deal. Anything. We are willing to pay almost any sum, honor almost every request. But we need more advanced tech. Space travel is a plus, as Ma-Tek threatens us from the stars, as are land based planetary defenses. And allies are even more helpful.

Please, help Samtonia remain free. Fight the imperialistic aggression of Ma-Tek. Save a free Samtonia. And hey, you might just pick up some preferential trade deals, large amounts of cash, or other beneficial objects your nation desires in the process.

Please. Help us.

Ma-Tek will probably make claims that we wish to “destroy our people” that our fairly elected government is “not in the best interests of the Samtonian people.” Indeed, they have already called us a tyrannical power for threatening to use nuclear weapons, the only weapon we have capable of inducing fear even into their hearts, if we are again threatened by forces we cannot even touch with our technology.

We love the fact that a nation that gets its jollies out of launching missiles into Samtonian hospitals decides to attempt to call us the tyrannical power.

Yes, for that is why the standoff has begun. This power with advanced weaponry has seen it just to stick its glorified nose into a nation's sovereign right to do as it pleases, use that power it has because of its advanced weapons to laud its "superiority" over every other nation on the planet as well as the entire human race, and then react to Samtonia's promise to use the only weapons we have that rival theirs as a deterrent to an attack on Samtonia by promising to exterminate, in essence, humanity, and certainly every Samtonian on the planet.

Because don't think for a minute Samtonia chooses to use WMDs as a first resort; indeed, we sent out this cry for help so we might adequately defend ourselves without having to use WMDs. But Ma-Tek shows their true colors by attempting to threaten any nation who aids us, as matters in the past have shown. If Ma-Tek truly did not want WMDs used, truly did not want harm to befall Samtonian citizens, they would not embark on their course of action.

If the nation of Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they never would have attacked Samtonia. If Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would have offered reparations to the victims of their callous attack. And if Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would have apologized. They would have stood down their advanced vessels of war that even now remain in orbit in space above Samtonia. They would have never threatened to wipe out every Samtonian if any rightfully obtained weapon that happened to rival theirs in power was used. And if Ma-Tek really cared about Samtonian citizens, they would never have violated Samtonia's sovereignty.

If your country cares at all for the decision making process it currently has, if your government at all cares about the freedoms all countries deserve, and if your country at all cares about the ideals espoused by every philosopher, poet, and reactionary in history, it is time for a stand.

Time for a stand against a jack-booted dictatorship attempting to assert its will over any country not strong enough to stand against it alone. Time for a stand against the murderers of thousands of innocent Samtonians, lying sick in their hospital beds. Time for a stand against the lies, hate, and pure and blind idiocy of Ma-Tek.

Citizens of the galaxy, whatever your race, whatever your allegiance, whatever your creeds. If you want a galaxy and a Terra where countries can make decisions based on the will of their governments and the people in them, you are automatically Samtonia's ally. If you believe a nation who has been attacked has a right to defend itself, you are Samtonia's ally. And if you believe for a minute that none of the things we have said apply, then you are an ally of Ma-Tek and an ally that we wouldn't have anyway.

The choice is clear. Please, for the safety, well-being, and sovereignty of Samtonia, aid us. Unless you want to see yet another nation absorbed into the growing and ever-hungry maw of Ma-Tek. A maw that, when sated by small countries such as our own, will surely turn to "intervene" in your affairs and assimilate you as well.

Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Samtonia you know we have helped you in the past. Let us help you again....
Back Off .... Ma-Tek is not someone whom you wish to make an enemy of. The cunning warrior picks his battles, this is a battle that we dare say both of us together couldn't win. If you will do this we offer you economic aid to rebuild your country.

"The Commonality will again state firmly that it has no intentions of conquest of any sovereign state, unless the situation were to merit it; the only said situation considered legal by Commonality Law is a situation wherein the population itself (and not the government, the wishes of which are in all cases irrelevant unless supported by the population) gives a clear sign that it desires freedom from some form of oppression or tyranny. In that instance, the Executive Council might win the backing of the Unified Commonality Government regarding a potential war of liberation; but that is not altogether certain, and almost always depends on the whims and wishes of the People of the Commonality more than the whims and wishes of the executive branch of government.

"Were the Commonality to invade Samtonia 'aggressively', with 'aggression' in this case defined entirely in opposition to in a war fought in defence of the homeland, that invasion would only happen at the clear request for freedom by the people of Samtonia. As no such request has been made and no such request appears impending, we can state with all certainty that no invasion is to take place.

"However, under Commonality Law surgical strikes in a warzone are legal so long as appropriate declarations have been made prior; all participants in the Dregrukian Incursions - willing or unwilling - were rightly forewarned and peaceful measures were required to be sought, or the Commonality would be forced to make the effort to bring about cessation of hostilities by other means.

"As no such efforts have been made to the satisfaction of the Unified Government, precision strikes - carried out entirely with non-lethal 'stun' missiles - were launched from a naval taskforce stationed in the Atlantic Ocean against military targets in Samtonia.

"Evidence strongly suggests that a portion of the entirety of missiles launched had targets verified for them during phase-two - the target acquisition phase, controlled by automated satelites operating in free space above the Earth - and these missiles all found those targets with the precision expected of Iluvauromeni targeting systems, as was the inevitable result.

"Those missiles which were not assigned targets continued out of the atmosphere, as pre-programmed, and attained pre-designated orbital positions designed to ensure their slow breakup upon re-entry. Additionally, we have confirmation images of the missiles breaking up in the upper atmosphere, aided by the release of energy from their battery packs as guided by observing satelites. Those images are already circulating the Iluvauromeni press.

"None of the areas targeted were near to the hospital in question. Nor does our satelite observation notice any clear indication of an increase in temperature in the vicinity of the hospital at the time of the impacts of the other missiles; this clearly suggests that, if missiles did indeed strike the hospital, they were not Iluvauromeni-launched. All of our missiles are m-wave guided - that is, guided by microwave beams - and the fact is that a targeting beam produces a distinctive variation in atmospheric temperature. Our records - largely from civilian weather observation gear mounted aboard the MISATs - do not show any such variation in or around the area supposedly hit by stun missiles.

"Therefore the Commonality will continue its previous policy: we are not responsible for the damage caused to the hospital, and so we will not accept responsibility.

"The Commonality also notes its dismay at the racist attitudes portrayed by the Samtonian government with regards to our esteemed Citizen, Sarah, the Artificial Semantic Intelligence responsible for ensuring that the missiles properly reached the correct target. Their insinuations that digital intelligence is worth less and less trustworthy than organic intelligence are declared utterly vile by this government."

~ Unified Commonality Government statement

We're quite finished with any entity of the ICEL for the time being. As of this point forward, all transmissions, diplomatic or otherwise, are to be severed from our countries.

Although we don't trust their word, we'll take it at face value and stand down any troops prepared to have to react to an invasion. However, our other terms still stand. WE still request allies, in the event anything....odd happens. We will still seek more advanced instruments of war and peace. We will still seek ways to protect Samtonia.

And although we aren't going to reply any more to anything their government says, we leave you with one final thought. All of our data given to nations backs up our ponts entirely. The ICEL ordered an attack on Samtonia and it was carried out, with the results of that attack causing the deaths of hundreds, if not tohusands, in a Samtonian hospital. We gave the math, the science, the hard facts that proved that Ma-Tek launched those missiles and their missiles hit the hospital.

Their reply? Their "evidence" shows no sign of this. Their "records" say the hospital wasn't hit. Look at the raw math. Look at the raw calculations that show that the missiles, launched by Ma-Tek, hit the hospitals. And look at the evidence that those missiles could and did cause the injuries and deaths of Samtonian civilians.

Look at the facts, study them yourselves, and see exactly how our "inferior" scientists could discover who launched those missiles that hit us. Or just blindly trust the ICEL, who we don't believe for a minute would not have changed official logs or given blatant lies as to weapons capabilities to protect their image. Trust blind promises or trust true facts. This is your decision. We just ask you to think about it. And with that, we bid you adieu.

Samtonian Council of Thirteen

"Our responses to this matter, beyond the basic refusal to accept responsibility for the action which was not committed by our military, in the face of unfounded allegations built on hot air, have not been directly related to Samtonia. The Commonality is instead attempting to maintain its perfect record regarding matters of honour.

"We do not believe in lying. We tell the truth - even when the truth might harm more than a lie. We told the utter truth when we were members of SATO; we felt that SATO was sluggish, slow to respond to a dynamic geopolitical structure that ever teeters on the edge of chaos, slow to respond to its own internal difficulties. We said so, even though we were indeed a part of that very difficulty. SATO exists no longer, but we are sure our honest reputation stands still.

"When the nation of All Elves was vilely attacked by the forces of Dor Daedoloth - more often known to the world as Melkor Unchained, or the Five Kingdoms - we intervened alongside other states, even though there was little chance of success. Even though our soldiers would die for a hopeless cause, our honour demanded that we aid our kin; we did so. Honesty and honour walk hand in hand; without honesty, there is no honour. Just the same, without honour, there is no honesty.

"As a democratic nation, we do not control the population. They do not speak the words that the government puts in their mouths; rather, the government speaks the words that the People put in our mouths. Civilian observation proves beyond all possible doubt that there were no microwave targeting beams fired in the vicinity of the hospital. As the missiles fired were not self-guided, and there were no air assets inside Samtonian airspace belonging to the Commonality, the lack of targeting beams distinctly proves that we are telling the truth: no ultrasonic missiles were fired at a hospital in Samtonia. Nor were kinetics utilized against any installation in Samtonia. Nor were precision E-cannon strikes enacted from orbit by Commonality Space Force warships. Nor has any military asset, beyond the missiles, attempted to enter Samtonia.

"How, then, did this incident occur? We do not know. Only Samtonia knows the truth - the real truth, not a truth concocted by power-hungry people seeking to expand their sphere of influence by the staining of the good name of a benevolent force working ever for the gain of others.

"So, then. As Samtonia is unwilling to reveal the truth, so too are we unwilling to make any effort to send them aid - aid which they have refused, unless we are willing to send our people into Samtonia with no hope of support in the face of hostility. What government would send personnel into hostile territory without protection? Certainly not this government.

"The conveyance sent to Samtonia, carrying a peace delegation as well as doctors who specialize with the recovery of comatose patients, will be recalled. All unnecessary contact with Samtonia is henceforth severed; the Commonality will make contact with Samtonia in one hundred years, when, perhaps, that nation will be ready for the contact. Any attempt by Samtonia to contact the Commonality before that time will be recorded, but no response will be forthcoming.

"May Samtonia find peace and prosperity in all that it does."

~ Empress the Supreme Commander Rialla ux-Rihad II