NationStates Jolt Archive

The longest-running sports-competition in NationStates reaches its 19th installment: the soccer/football world cup. If you want to kn ow what the world actually IS, you can check the entry in the Wiki: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/World_Cup . If it does not answer your questions post here and one of the regulars will answer them. Remember: there are no stupid questions, just stupid users (just kidding). Please do specify wether you participated before. If you are new to this competition, you will be able to take part in the preliminary competition Baptism of Fire (In the wiki, it is explained here: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Baptism_of_Fire ).
Puppets have to post with their nation and identify their master.

Hosts:
Turori/The Belmore Family

Participants (80):
Rejistania
Maserrat
The Weegies
Sarzonia
Starblaydia
Shonar Bangla
Anglevia
Fmjphoenix
The Immaculate Youth
Legalese
Aquiliana
Big Pimento
Liverpool England
Oddslavo
Bedistan
Villapange
Total n Utter Insanity
Iansisle
Melmond
Cockbill Street
7JM
Gaziantep
The Eagle's Nest
Jeruselem
Remich
Nova Britannicus
Audioslavia
Tadjikistan
Huahin
Vilita
Raptor Claw
EL CID THE HERO
Turori
Hiiraan
Kylaai
Kaze Progressa
Lethislavania
Oaker
Squornshelous
Haperd
Gallistien
Lykaia
The Lowland Clans
Munchkinloopa
NEWI Cefn Druids
Druida
Spaam
The Belmore Family
The Evil Umpire
Nastic
Svecia
Krytenia
Antixilian Fatwah
Dance 2 Revolution
Zvarinograd
Hisam
Phazania
Lennon Marx
Pterodactyl
Chonchland
Crystilakere
Commerce Heights
Esth
Dead Rockstars
Snub Nose 38
Hammerund
Adam Island
Middle March
Lovisa
Finrods
Wella
Sliponia
Runaway Moose
Vorpal Bunnies
Piquantrax
Slaikau
Kipto-Mare (over TG, pending post)
One Red Dot
Oceaice
Laxmarak
Giant Zucchini
Eauz

Newbies (18):
Shonar Bangla
Anglevia
The Immaculate Youth
Villapange
7JM
Gaziantep
Huahin
Lethislavia
Gallistien
Munchkinloopa
Zvarinograd
Antixilian Fatwah
Hisam
Phazania
Chonchland
Dead Rockstars
Hammerund
Adam Island
Middle March
Sliponia
Laxmarak (signed up after BoF)

Puppets (8 (11)):
Oddslavo (Liverpool England)
Nova Britannicus (Starblaydia)
Turori (Vilita)
Pterodactyl (Raptor Claw, pending puppet post)
Druida (NEWI Cefn Druids)
The Evil Umpire (Melmond)
Antixilian Fatwah (Krytenia)
Oceaice (Crystilakere, pending puppet post)
Dead Rockstars (Audioslavia)
Finrods (Lovisa, pending puppet post)
Vorpal Bunnies (The Eagle's Nest)

On request of Snub Nose 38 (although late):

WCC Reference Book (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=323682)

The Orange-Blues sign up again!! (of course we participated before)

I'll be the second to sign up for the prestigious tournament, and hope to do better than we have done in WC18 (assuming we don't qualify, which is highly likely).

I'd like to sign up.

Although I've had a terrible writer's block recently, which is the main reason I haven't been RPing. Sorry about that.

Sarzonia would like to sign up for World Cup 19. We have participated in the last three World Cups... coming one match short of the World Cup finals in each *GRRRR*

Starblaydia will sign up gladly, and my lil puppet too, once jolt logs me out *shakes fist*

Sorry for this:

Somalialand Wishes to compete in this Great compatation

Aah, the old tradition continues...

The Secular Nationalists of Shonar Bangla would like to participate. First time participation

Anglevia will proudly line up for the first time!

THe Fmjphoenix Vikings will be glad to represent in World Cup XIX.

The Dominion of The Immaculate Youth would like to participate in this tournament.

Legalese shall return as well.

Aquiliana graciously accepts your challenge.

Big Pimento refuses to calm the eff down with big blue titles and signs up for another go at the World Cup!!

Stop the big blue text. Everyone.

LE sign up, and Oddslavo as well.

Bedistan will certainly give it a fifteenth go.

Oh yes! What nation is hosting the event?

Big Pimento refuses to calm the eff down with big blue titles and signs up for another go at the World Cup!!


I suggest you stop it, Mine is original, yours is copying so there is big diffrence okay, better stop copying me

[Just playing]

I suggest you stop it, Mine is original, yours is copying so there is big diffrence okay, better stop copying me

[Just playing]

OOC - First of all, this is the WC19 sign-up thread, so any posts not pertaining to signing up for the World Cup should go in the discussion thread. This is why this rebuttal will be my first and last in this thread.

Secondly, when exactly did satire lose its value?

I'd like to sign up.

Although I've had a terrible writer's block recently, which is the main reason I haven't been RPing. Sorry about that.

I'm not sorry about my lack of RPing, after 17 cups you don't have much to write about.

This post is the Insanicians signup for World Cup 19

Villapange: Nations bid to host. First timers cannot bid, neither can puppets.

The Ians, as always, are game for another shot!

Melmond is certainly in...and which puppet I will enter is undecided as of now...

Vote Badnarik!
Vote Libertarian!

What is the criteria for being able to bid for hosting? Also, f I am able I would like to bid for hosting World Cup XIX.

What is the criteria for being able to bid for hosting? Also, f I am able I would like to bid for hosting World Cup XIX.

You need to have a concept of scorinating, you need to know either Excel, a programming language or leagion (in the later case, you can ask me to edit the scorination formula for your needs), you need to have enough time for calculating the RP-bonus and scorinating, you must not have a life (due to the time for hosting) and you need to be in the IRC (every single host since world cup 11 was an IRCler).

****bill Street is in. For another qualification failure, I might add.

Updatified and bumpified!

Well then, I will not be able to host as I cannot get on IRC as the firewall I am behind in my school dorms will not allow me to conect to it. If I am able to reconnect to IRC anytime soon, I will put in my bid again as I can use Excel, but I think I would ask you to edit the scorination you have for my useage.

7JM will enter for the first time.

Usually as I write What i need

Somalialand has now changed its name from somalialand to -Somalia-

I also suggest you add me to the list

I am confused, that is my Puppet

And yeah dont add him to the list Just add me

The Sultanate of Gaziantep will glady send a delegation to the WC 19 the team will be nicknamed the Jackals

The Eagle's Nest will play.


Vorpal Bunnies is retired from international play and as such will NOT be playing.

We're back into the World Cup again!
We're suckers for disappointment.

I guess Remich will participate, we enter the Ravens as our team

The Navy-Blues of Nova Britannicus, a puppet of Starblaydia, would like to sign up.

Well then, I will not be able to host as I cannot get on IRC as the firewall I am behind in my school dorms will not allow me to conect to it. If I am able to reconnect to IRC anytime soon, I will put in my bid again as I can use Excel, but I think I would ask you to edit the scorination you have for my useage.
No need to stop bidding due to lacking IRC-access. I just told that since WC11 the hosts were IRClers, but that is no requirement (maybe find a reg as co-host ;) ).

Audioslavia will sign up again :)

Tadjikistan would like to sign up for WC19 :)

I'd like to enter too.
Bring on the Baptism Of Fire.

Vilita & Turori

Vilita will be submitting a hosting bid

Turori

No need to stop bidding due to lacking IRC-access. I just told that since WC11 the hosts were IRClers, but that is no requirement (maybe find a reg as co-host ;) ).

okay, well I would still like to host or co-host, so if someone wanted to, I would be glad to co-host with them. If not, I will bid for hosting.

I would be willing to co-host with you. I have a good understanding of Excel, and have my own special scorinator. Hopefully nobody else bigger/better comes along!

I ... have my own special scorinator

The same scorinator that put you at the top of an international league right before you changed to format to a Top Vs Bottom knockout competition?

Riiiight ;)

That was a meagre attempt at a scorinator. Anyway, my plan is that each host would do four groups in the finals each, one of which would contain the other host, and vice versa. That way, a host does not make score for their own games, and thus eliminates this problem.

Anyway, my plan is that each host would do four groups in the finals each, one of which would contain the other host, and vice versa. That way, a host does not make score for their own games, and thus eliminates this problem.

Hosts generally don't do their own scores in the WC Finals anyway, and as there's always 2 hosts, the problem doesnt arise.

(Former somalialand)
I am signing up for this world cup and take part in the BoF

I was there before with somalialand but this time it should be breeze, At least that is what i hope for as for maserrat, You are lucky somalialand was deleted because i would have taken the 3rd lace finish now we shall witness what you have, ohhhhh i forgot you are on your way out And properly competing the Harmony cup with me, I guess i will see you there

Raptor Claw will signup and also wish to host if Vilita or Fmjphoenix or the others wish to co-host with Raptor Claw we have before hosted Cup of Harmony

Also to sign up Pterodactyl for the puppet.

i am back

signup the Cup of Harmony winners

This is a signup.

Specifically, a Progressan signup.

Lethislavania would like to field their national team for the first time.

The Oaker Sharks will compete again

Squornshelous signs up.

We have participated in a few of these *cough13cough* ;)

Haperd will return hopefully if we are accepted

I would be willing to co-host with you. I have a good understanding of Excel, and have my own special scorinator. Hopefully nobody else bigger/better comes along!

THat sounds good to me. I would co-host with you. Once I see how your scorinator works, I can do it without much problem. I am pretty good with excel, I am even taking my second class on microsoft applications(very easy stuf)

A newbie here, I will enter WC 19

sign up

Vil, I hate to say this and I know you'd take my head out, but ALL ex-hosts use 3 cups difference as a margin between hosting bids (Rejis, WC13 and 16; Eauz, WC15 and 18). [IRL, the difference has been 4 cups - Mexico '56, '82]

That said, Liverpool England is NOT making a hosting bid.

The Allied States sends wishes to send a team to the World Cup 19.

[IRL, the difference has been 4 cups - Mexico '56, '82]

Mexico hosted it in 1970 and 1986, with three cups in between.

Vil, I hate to say this and I know you'd take my head out, but ALL ex-hosts use 3 cups difference as a margin between hosting bids (Rejis, WC13 and 16; Eauz, WC15 and 18). [IRL, the difference has been 4 cups - Mexico '56, '82]

That said, Liverpool England is NOT making a hosting bid.

I'm not going to take your head out, I just laugh that you are always the one to point these things out, but theres no rule so why not

(Former somalialand)
I am signing up for this world cup and take part in the BoF

I was there before with somalialand but this time it should be breeze, At least that is what i hope for as for maserrat, You are lucky somalialand was deleted because i would have taken the 3rd lace finish now we shall witness what you have, ohhhhh i forgot you are on your way out And properly competing the Harmony cup with me, I guess i will see you there

Once again, I choose not to respond (even though there's so much I can say). Is it allowed that Hiiraan play in the Cup Of Harmony, seeing as technically they have never played in the WC?

Fmjphoenix, I accept your offer. It looks like we are putting in a bid to host then, doesn't it? :)

we'll sign up. we're only little, but we're hard

Hiiraan will not be invited to the CoH, as has been said by host Bedistan.

OOC: Why does the sign up thread always seem to start when I go away for a few days? Coincidence? Uh, well, probably...

Anyway, NEWI Cefn Druids signs up for World Cup 19...

...and so does Druida, with a pure hatred for our Druidish neighbours/ puppeteers.

Spaam is in

I'm not going to take your head out, I just laugh that you are always the one to point these things out, but theres no rule so why not

It's more an unwritten rule, Rejis actually broke it by hosting so close together and then that became the unwriten rule.

Alright! Maserrat and I shall bid to host World Cup XIX.

Squornshelous signs up.

We have participated in a few of these *cough13cough* ;)

Squorn, you n00b. TBF sign up for their 15th cup. :P

That said, Liverpool England is NOT making a hosting bid.

5 to 1 that statement's not valid by the end of this week.

we'll sign up. we're only little, but we're hard
I really hope that wasn't meant to be a sexual innuendo

We shall continue our evilness in the World of Footballing by posting slani RPs or no RPs at all...mwhahahahaha!

Love,
8-Bit Ruler of All

(technically a puppet of Melmond)

Nastic will again take part in our 11th straight World cup.

Svecia will return and we have obviously participated before.

World Cup N-N-N-N-Nineteen?

Yes, we would like to play. Thanks.

As would our friends, ANTIXILIAN FATWAH.

Puppet in 1st WC btw, replacing Northbank. I fancy a change.

Dance 2 Revolution declare their signup for the 19th World Cup Competition

For the first time in the team's and the country's history, the Zvarinograd Russkies will be signing up for World Cup 19 under the management of Councilor Bogdan Esengiurin syn Baikishev who is currently tasked as the cultural advisor to The Council as ordered by the First Councilor.

For the first time in the team's and the country's history, the Zvarinograd Russkies will be signing up for World Cup 19 under the management of Councilor Bogdan Esengiurin syn Baikishev who is currently tasked as the cultural advisor to The Council as ordered by the First Councilor.

* LE considers fainting.

Ren? You? World Cup? No. No link in my head. :P

EDIT: BoF you're joining, I assume?

The nation of Hisam would like to send its team...We hope to put in a good showing...

Whoever updates the signup list; if Pterodactyl (no puppet post yet) is on the main list, Oddslavo should be too.

Mexico hosted it in 1970 and 1986, with three cups in between.

Screw my maths. And my RLWC history.

Phazania would like to participate on this event.

Chonchland Would be honored if thou would invite us to play sport? We have not entered before, but are expecting ourselves to play well.

Billy Bags-up
Head Sportmaster
CHONCHLAND

The Lennon Marx Green Leopards wish to return to the World Cup after a fairly lengthy hiatus due to some pressing matters at home (and the collapse of our National Governing Body. But all is good now and we look forward to getting another go

Cheers all
Lennon

The Lennon Marx Green Leopards wish to return to the World Cup after a fairly lengthy hiatus due to some pressing matters at home (and the collapse of our National Governing Body. But all is good now and we look forward to getting another go

Cheers all
Lennon

WELCOME BACK! My U21 team played you in our first game ever

Crystilakere & Puppet Oceaice for another Cup

Whoever updates the signup list; if Pterodactyl (no puppet post yet) is on the main list, Oddslavo should be too.

Duly noted and corrected.

The Capitalizts sign up for their 13th WC.

Hosting Bid ::

Turori & TBF (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7434936#post7434936)

Esth signs up for the WC19

Here is the link to Maserrat and Fmjphoenix's Hosting Bid:

Maserrat/Fmjphoenix WC19 Hosting Bid (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372270)

The Fatwah sign up.

No Xile? Damn.

Oh well, we'll have to be Anti everyone else.

When do you plan to start the vote for hosting?

Dead Rockstars would like to sign up as a puppet of Audioslavia :)

Message from the ACTING president: the voting booths are open now and the voting machines ready to miscount the votes you TGed to "A violent majority" (a puppet of mine, which I regularily use for TGs since my own TG-box is always full). Remember that you might need a ID-card, your voter's registration, a certificate confirming your literacy, a knitting needle (to make sure that the punch card has a real hole in it and is not just scribed) and in certain cases a right decision of the supreme court to have your vote counted. The ACTING president did not allow the UN, OSCE or other organisations to monitor the elections.

The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages for the Frost-Free Borderlands of Snub Nose 38 is so busy supervising the sign painter that is trying to fit his title on the door of his new office that he forgot to sign the Hooligans up for WC19.

However...as usual...Margaret remembered in time, and sent in the application, so the Hooligans will participate in their 17th consecutive World Cup.

The Holy Empire of Hammerund would like to participate in this tournament.

However...as usual...Margaret remembered in time, and sent in the application, so the Hooligans will participate in their 17th consecutive World Cup.

EDIT: Thanks to Vilita who signed SN38 up for WC17 despite the hooligans withdrawing from World Cup and then making a big stink through an Undeclared Puppet....

But sure, It's easy to forget that little fact and hate me anyway, yup

The Republic of Adam Island would like to participate in the World Cup. This is our first venture, so the 'Baptism of Fire' competition would probably be appropiate.

Middle March Borderlands Iron Fist Socialists will sign for this Kup and proudly show how a Peoples Demokratick Republick can play The Beautiful Game

EDIT: Thanks to Vilita who signed SN38 up for WC17 despite the hooligans withdrawing from World Cup and then making a big stink through an Undeclared Puppet....

But sure, It's easy to forget that little fact and hate me anyway, yupDid you ever hear the expression, "Let sleeping dogs lie"? Or "Stop beating a dead horse"?

Let's examine them from the literal and the metaphoric, shall we?

Literally, the first means if you go around poking, or otherwise annoying, a sleeping dog, it is almost surely going to wake up, bite you - perhaps several times - and then go back to sleep while you go patch yourself up.

Metaphorically, it's a suggestion to let something that has died out of it's own accord stay dead, and not continually drag it back up. A suggestion, if you will, to stop picking at scabs - to leave healing wounds alone so they will heal.

As to the second - literally, it means to continue to try to get a horse to do something you want it to do by beating it loses any meaning once the horse has actually died.

As a metaphor, it suggests that once something is over, it's over, and we should let it be over.

Or - we could continue to bicker about this until hell freezes over.

My preference is to stop beating the dead horse, and let the sleeping dog lie.

The horse is dead, long live the horse!

Neigh!

Lovisa and my puppet Finrods

wella

Liverpool England will withdraw it's statement about not hosting.

HOSTING BID: Liverpool England/Rejistania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372648)

Liverpool England will withdraw it's statement about not hosting.

HOSTING BID [Bid thread soon]: Liverpool England/Rejistania

Xe've jilih. I confirm this.

Current Signups: 69 [+3 pending puppet post] = 72

Sliponia has returned from isolationism and would like to enter it's team into the World Cup once again, if there is room.

Sliponia has returned from isolationism and would like to enter it's team into the World Cup once again, if there is room.

Welcome back, Sliponia!

That said, Liverpool England is NOT making a hosting bid.

5 to 1 that statement's not valid by the end of this week.

Liverpool England will withdraw it's statement about not hosting

*Reals in the money* ;)

Confirming puppet signup.

This is confirmation of Maserrat's bid to co-host the pre-WC19 Baptism of Fire Cup with Vilita.

So, hoping I'm posting correctly... is there space for a phoenix like return? If not perhaps in the 20th?

Nah, but if you like you can be insulted a lot.

U21 World Cup 8 Signup (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371375&page=2)

So, hoping I'm posting correctly... is there space for a phoenix like return? If not perhaps in the 20th?The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages is pleased to note the return of fellow Astroidians Runaway Moose to the World Cup stage.

World Cup XVIII is currently underway (*sort of) - and we believe there's still some space in WC XIX. By our count Runaway Moose should be the 72 to sign up.

U21? Was that directed at me?

Nah it was at late signups...I guess yeah it was then. Still need 4 more teams.

fair enough... am i in then?

Well signup for the U21 World Cup is different to the normal World Cup, you need to choose a style...so no.

Can you tell me the difference? I'm 22, does that matter?

Yes, the Runaway Moose Player can't play in the Cup, but anyone else from Runaway Moose who is under 21 can play.

Vorpal Bunnies, my puppet has changed it's mind. It will play in WCXIX.

Puppet Confirm.

The People of Piquantrax are proud to announce that they will be sending their best competitors in the game of football (soccer).

Well, I'd rather play in the regular good old cup, so if XIX is full, I'll train a team for XX and keep an eye out for signups.

Well, I'd rather play in the regular good old cup, so if XIX is full, I'll train a team for XX and keep an eye out for signups.

19 isnt full yet, RM. Welcome back.

Most people seem to find choosing a style difficult as well. Anyway good luck on your 3/4 Cup rise to the 20/30s.

We would like to sign up and we further wish to be known as The Flying Serpents

The Draw for the Baptism of Fire Cup will take place in approximately One Hour (07.15 PM EST) - 00.15 GNT(?) on IRC. The server we use is irc.esper.net and the channel is #sport. You can use mIRC (http://www.mirc.com) or any other IRC agents to access the draw.

Thanks LE, it's good to be back.

am i not too late???

if im not, then One Red Dot is in for WC19

GZ is getting resurrected... so is there a place for him? there better be...or else......the sentent veggies are hungry

Plenty of space. Of course, we'd need GZ to post here himself. EDIT: GZ has been revived.

I am very confused. How do you play? I took a look at the wiki site, um... yeah. Clueless, but it sounds like fun.

I am very confused. How do you play? I took a look at the wiki site, um... yeah. Clueless, but it sounds like fun.

You sign up, sit back, wait for the results to come in and then RP! Although you'll have to miss the traditional newbie-cup, which has already started.

lexmarak would like to join. :cool:

"...Yes, you heard me right. The once great and mighty Giant Zucchini is BACK IN ACTION! After 8 years in the wilderness (well, yeah, we were always a wilderness, but I digress...) the Zucchinis are back in the WORLD CUP! And therefore, we the representatives of the Giant Zucchini Broadcasting Corporation, have the pleasure of disclosing our latest range of programmes..."

Finrods aplly (a puppet of Lovisa)

"...Yes, you heard me right. The once great and mighty Giant Zucchini is BACK IN ACTION! After 8 years in the wilderness (well, yeah, we were always a wilderness, but I digress...) the Zucchinis are back in the WORLD CUP! And therefore, we the representatives of the Giant Zucchini Broadcasting Corporation, have the pleasure of disclosing our latest range of programmes..."
Welcome back, GZ!

Welcome back, GZ!

Pleasure mates! It's been a rough and busy few months for me, but I'm back until at least the end of December, then I'll see how busy the new semester is going to be. Hopefully I won't need to disappear again ;)

"...Yes, you heard me right. The once great and mighty Giant Zucchini is BACK IN ACTION! After 8 years in the wilderness (well, yeah, we were always a wilderness, but I digress...) the Zucchinis are back in the WORLD CUP! And therefore, we the representatives of the Giant Zucchini Broadcasting Corporation, have the pleasure of disclosing our latest range of programmes..."The Minister of Athletics, Olympics, and Alcoholic Beverages is pleased to note the ranks of sentient vegetation participating in the World Cup once again include Giant Zucchini.

...list...

On request of Snub Nose 38 (although late):

WCC Reference Book (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=323682)Thanks

If GZ is elligble for the BoF tournament and wants to play, i'd be happy to pull out my puppet Dead Rockstars so he can participate, i'd like to see GZ get within striking distance of WC19 :)

welcome back dude

p.s. If youre wondering where Urk went, he played for Druida in WC18 along with Thunk as part of the 'amnesty for homeless footballers' programme. Might want to get your lawyers out to try and get them back to GZ :)

p.s. If youre wondering where Urk went, he played for Druida in WC18 along with Thunk as part of the 'amnesty for homeless footballers' programme. Might want to get your lawyers out to try and get them back to GZ :)

and if you're short a few lawyers, I think we can spare them for your efforts :)

Aargh! The lawyers! The penalties!

No!

NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[/flashback]

Official Announcement

And the voting is now concluded! The World Cup will be hosted this time round by...

THE BELMORE FAMILY & TURORI!

Congratulations! Should you be unable or unwilling to host, hosting duties will fall to Rejistania and Liverpool England.

Official Announcement

Official Complaint

Puppets should not host tournmanets.

End Official Complaint

Official Announcement

And the voting is now concluded! The World Cup will be hosted this time round by...

THE BELMORE FAMILY & TURORI!

Congratulations! Should you be unable or unwilling to host, hosting duties will fall to Rejistania and Liverpool England.

Official Announcement
TBF!! Finally!!

TBF!! Finally!!

Snubby, please clarify rules on puppets hosting cups.

Telegrams have gone out to respective nations in charge of the Cup rules (SN38) and cup voting (Arry). I really feel like crying now, to put so much hope into my bid for once, thinking it would win.... and to see your bid beaten by a guy who uses puppets to get around the unofficial unwritten 3-cup rule..... :mad: I have also taken the liberty of putting the FHWC on hold - this is really serious... to have my hopes of finally hosting a WC crushed by SOME GUY WHO HOSTED 2 CUPS AGO!!!!!! :mad:

Snub Nose 38, please clarify rules on puppets hosting cups. Thank you.Nothing in the current World Cup rules prohibits a puppet from being a co-host. The only mention of puppets in the rules is in rule 32:

RULE 32: One puppet per "main" nation is allowed - no more. When signing up a puppet, the "main" nation must sign up AS the puppet, and identify who they are a puppet of - this is on the honor system. If there are more nations signed up than there are available spaces for participants, the last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the first nation on the "waiting list", then the next to last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the next nation on "waiting list". This process continues until either all the nations on the "waiting list" are moved to the participants list, or all the puppets who signed up are gone.

Since it isn't prohibited, a puppet nation can bid and, if voted in by the WCC in accordance with our rules, is a valid co-host.

If you want to have discussion, and/or propose a rule against it, that would be fine.

Personnaly, it doesn't bother me as long as the puppet is a regular WC participant - same as any other potential co-host. I do see the possibility of scorinating for "yourself" - for instance if I still had a puppet, and it co-hosted, it should not scorinate for Snub Nose 38. The rules state that a co-host cannot generate it's own results, perhaps that should be expanded to include not generating results for it's own puppet(s), or as in this case, it's own "main" nation.

I can see how it could upset you, LE, as it comes at a time that prevents you from hosting. Try (I know it's hard sometimes) to see the cup as half full - TBF has been trying to host for ages, too.

Question: I should probably know this, but what is the FHWC?

DIDNT YOU READ MY GODDAMN POST!!!!? About Vil hosting WC17!!!!?

Eff it man, if this is the way things are gonna go, letting a person host by using a puppet to avoid some unwritten rules, I'm gonna have to withdraw myself AND Oddslavo from the WC. I'll also step down from both Committees I'm in. Had a great time in the WC. :(

p.s. If youre wondering where Urk went, he played for Druida in WC18 along with Thunk as part of the 'amnesty for homeless footballers' programme. Might want to get your lawyers out to try and get them back to GZ :)

Oh, you haven't heard what I have come up with! ;) :p

The story will be unveiled...in the WC 19 Pre-WC thread...when it gets set up of course!

okay, lemme clarify things:

There is no rule against puppets hosting, however, I do not want them in the WCC. I think a rule should be passed that if a puppet hosts, it should not get a place in the WCC:


If a puppet becomes elected co-host of a tournament, it will not gain a place in the WCC unless its master nation has no place there.



The other thing is the unofficial three cup rule. It is unofficial, and cannot be enforced. TBH: I do not *want* it to be enforced at all. To use an RL example: Let's say Germany falls into Civil war and cannot host WC2006, let's further say the only nations willing to host are Zimbabwe and Japan/South Korea (same bid as WC2002). I would prefer the experienced hosts over the LDC, which has no decent fascilities and it ruled by the army (sorry, Zimbabwe if I got things wrong here). The facilities in NS are the amount of time and the scorinators.

However, I see that there is a substantial number of nation favoring a time limit before hosting again. Instead of going with the easiest solution and proposing the 3 cup rule into WCC legislation, I want to propose something we all can agree on:


No nation can bid for a world cup when it is currently hosting a World Cup. This rule must not be trespassed by using a puppet.


~Rejis, ACTING WCC president

TBF!! Finally!!
Thanks Snub.

This might be a good time to mention that Tuori will not accept a place on the WCC, as stated throughout the bid.

AT THE RISK OF OFFENDING VILITA, USING BOLD CAPS TO GET EVERYONE'S ATTENTION (joke, vil)

Proposed solution:
1. TBF & Turori host WC19
2. LE & Rejis host WC20 - If and only if their bid received the 2nd highest vote total. If their bid did not, then WC20 host/co-host will be selected in the usual manner.
3. The following new rules be adopted.

RULE: No puppet may host or co-host the World Cup. Puppets may, however, host or co-host Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments. No puppet, including Turori, may hold a seat or have a vote on the World Cup Committee

RULE: Once someone has hosted/co-hosted a World Cup, they may not bid to host/co-host again until two cups have passed. They may bid to host the third cup. This does not apply to Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments.In the interest of reaching a compromise position that all can agree on, the 2nd proposed rule above is modified to be similar to the one proposed by Rejis:

RULE: Once someone has been selected to host/co-host a World Cup, they may not bid to host/co-host again while they cup they are hosting is underway. They may bid to host/co-host again during the next "round of bidding" for hosts/co-hosts that takes place after the Cup they are hosting is completed. This rule does NOT apply to hosting/co-hosting Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments.

to clarify - these are PROPOSED rules...according to the precedent we have set, rules are first proposed, then discussed, and finally adopted (or not) by the President.

who is president? did we resolve that? is it KP, or Rejis, or TnUI?

akaik The President is Rejis.

How WC19 will be run:
Qualifying Format:

The Qualifying format will be:
10x8 (80 Teams) Top 3
2 more nations are needed


Determining Qualifying Groups:

* Group Draws will have pots, they will be done using ranks after WC18


Scores Generation:

The scores will be generated in Excel using the formula:

=A RANDOM NUMBER (between 0 and 1)*1000-(700+(Your Rank /2)-((Their Rank/4)-150))+(75 if at home)

If that is above 0 then a goal is scored. You get 14 attacks.

RP Bonus:

While we don't want to announce to the world what our RP Bonus system is as we would like to encourage quality RP's because people want to contribute to the cup, and NOT because they want to simply earn points by appeasing to the hosts guidelines, We will tell you this much.

There could be a slightly higher "first" RP bonus, where a team would get a bonus for the fact that they have contributed a quality RP to the competition, in addition to any bonus the RP itself earns.

In short, we want you to make us feel special by participating in our cup.


Turori Stadiums:

http://dirt-racing.com//3wide/sites...vn/kpv/s-al.gif

Details on the Cednia Beach Center, Kionao Park and the other stadiums coming soon...

TBF Stadiums:

Mussex United Stadium:
Name: Flavento (Belmorian for Panther) Stadium
Cost 59,000,000
Seats: 103,000
Completed: January 3rd 2004

The All new Mussex United Stadium purposely designed or great all round viewing. With the circular design and perfectly angled seats no-ones view will be compromised. Filled with 40 commentary boxes all around the stadium this stadium will provide stunning TV moments.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadiu...o_maracana1.jpg


Alan City FC Stadium:
Name: Belmorian International
Cost 89,000,000
Seats: 100,000
Completed: January 11th 2004
Belmorian International is a real feat of design. Holding 100,000 citizens it creates a great atmosphere and will lead teams to glory as it hosts the World Cup. To the North of the stadium is a giant roster, purposely built to hold the World Cup.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadiu...ing_olympic.jpg


Faci FC Stadium:
Name: Winter Wonderstadium
Cost 49,000,000
Seats: 85,000
Completed: September 17th 2003
Located in the most Northerly region of TBF, Faci is one of the most spectacular areas for football. Consistently covered in ice of snow, the ball zips off the top testing the keepers to extreme. A place great for the stars but naf if your only average as many players found out in the BPL last season.
http://www.stadiumguide.com/espanolnew1.jpg


The Datelian Flaventoes Stadium:
Name: Alan Belmore Tribute Stdium
Cost 26,000,000
Seats: 74,400
Completed: November 13th 2003
Located in the most Southerly region of TBF right on the border with Belmorian Scandinavia this ground is punishing on the athletes taking part. With temperatures reaching up to 40 degrees Celsius lasting the whole 90 minutes is tough. With the Datelian Flaventoes being promoted to the premiership for the new season the crowd will be already to see some stars in action.
http://www.stadiumguide.com/newoaka.jpg

Alan City Grippas (Belmorian for Gecko) Stadium:
Name: Grippa International
Cost 30,000,000
Seats: 70,000
Completed: March 29th 2003
The oldest Stadium in The Belmore Family, located to the east of Alan City in the Belmorian desert. Surprisingly enough the teams that that have to endure this stadium will be treated in luxury despite being miles away from civilization.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadiu...ser_moubark.jpg

Re-enter LE and Oddslavo.

Oh Alas, LE must have brainwashed me when I was talking to him, and I completely forgot to signup... Or... nations of the World Cup are jeleous of Eauz and didn't want to see him participate!

Alas, whatever the reason, I have decided to sign up and fight for my Country against evil TeRR0RiZtZ! (This is the draft sign up for the military right?)

*Eauz will participate in WC19

TBF posting as NS World Cup-

The WC!9 participants will be:

Rejistania
Maserrat
The Weegies
Sarzonia
Starblaydia
Shonar Bangla
Anglevia
Fmjphoenix
The Immaculate Youth
Legalese
Aquiliana
Big Pimento
Liverpool England
Oddslavo
Bedistan
Villapange
Total n Utter Insanity
Iansisle
Melmond
Cockbill Street
7JM
Gaziantep
The Eagle's Nest
Jeruselem
Remich
Nova Britannicus
Audioslavia
Tadjikistan
Huahin
Vilita
Raptor Claw
EL CID THE HERO
Turori
Hiiraan
Kylaai
Kaze Progressa
Lethislavania
Oaker
Squornshelous
Haperd
Gallistien
Lykaia
The Lowland Clans
Munchkinloopa
NEWI Cefn Druids
Druida
Spaam
The Belmore Family
The Evil Umpire
Nastic
Svecia
Krytenia
Antixilian Fatwah
Dance 2 Revolution
Zvarinograd
Hisam
Phazania
Lennon Marx
Pterodactyl
Chonchland
Crystilakere
Commerce Heights
Esth
Dead Rockstars
Snub Nose 38
Hammerund
Adam Island
Middle March
Lovisa
Finrods
Wella
Sliponia
Runaway Moose
Vorpal Bunnies
Piquantrax
Slaikau
Kipto-Mare
One Red Dot
Oceaice
Laxmarak
Giant Zucchini
Eauz

With that done, all of you are invited to RP in the Pre-World Cup !9 thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375076

The draw will probably be done tonight on IRC, probably around 9PM GMT