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Non-Human comrades – take heed!

The Non-Human Union is a well-respected and established organization interested in presenting the concerns of non-human nations in the anthropocentric structure of NationStates.

How often do you read United Nation charters exclusively discussing the affairs of “human beings” at the detriment of non-human sentients and non-human nations!?

How often are your people arrested, detained, denied legal rights or citizenship based on their species, rather then their individual merit as capable and co-equal to fellow humans?!

How often are your people persecuted, used for secret medical and military research. Worked to death in extra-legal slave camps or suffer a grisly and silent genocide covered-up by ignorant and frightened Homo Sapiens.

Too Often!

The NHU is not ideologically allied to any particular economic or political structure. The only requirement is that civil and political rights fall no lower then “some”. We provide a central region in NationStates with a map available to establish nations ---> http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/ The only requirement is that no nation moving to the region have Weapons of Mass destruction.

The benefits of membership are at your discretion. Various committees are available to participation for members covering areas such as environmental protection, nuclear power and medical research etc.

We also have a constitution available at our online forum ---> http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_Non_Human_Union/index.php?showtopic=101 The constitution allows all members a say in the operating of the NHU, regardless of economic or military strength. Our forum ---> http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_Non_Human_Union/index.php provides links to the various different areas of the NHU and welcomes all members or just those interested in affiliating or maintaining relations with the NHU.

The Non-Human Union also has a joint-currency, operated much like the RL Euro. The joint currency was instigated to provide economic certainty to developing nations as well as enhancing trade between member nations. The Union Paw remains a strong currency and nations considering joining the region, Greenfields, while not required to adopt the currency and strongly encouraged too. All nations that adopt the Union Paw are given a seat in the Central Market.

The Non-Human union is an alliance for the protection and enhancement or Non-Human nations and people in NationStates. Human nations are also welcome to join the association and several and members of the region however our primary concern is with Non-Human nations. The NHU is both a political, economic and military relationship, but the emphasis of these three branches is at each member’s discretion.

Finally, the NHU has a five point Mantra of which all nations must abide by
Universal Declaration of the NHU:
All non-human species have the right to live their lives with the rights all humans have as covered in the UN human rights charter.
No sentinent being will be eaten
All non-humans and humans are equal
All non-human species have the right to self-determination

Some members you my recognise are… Biotopia, Hell Bovines, Wandering Argonians, Aqua Nation Atlantica, Slagkattunger and Feline.

So please, check us out, direct your questions to the Federal Republic of the Non-Human Union, join our forum our request the regional password from our delegate and join!

Although Humanoid, we consider ourselves more than a human being. Enlightened and wise, we take little notice of the lowly humans for anything other than trade.

We try not to institutionalise values that encourage ideas of one species being "superior" or "inferior" to another, far too much has been lost then gained with such thinking. However you are still more then welcome to join the Non-Human Union.

Oh we don't insult them or make jokes of them, nor do we treat them with any less respect than we give ourselves... we just consider ourselves much more enlightened. we don't look for any excuse to take over land... we colonise uninhabited worlds instead.

ah, what tech level do you present yourself as?

ah, what tech level do you present yourself as?

rather futuristic.

OOC: The Dinosaurian Sskiss are a non-humanoid species (actually a collection of related species). Although we are probably too territorial and insolationist to freely mix with other species on a daily basis. We also possess no real currency, but do appear to have a concept of "trade" or "exchange". We also currently have no populations on Earth, however.

I'm really new and therefore don't really have a clue as to whats going on, but can I join

Greetings to the Sskiss

As mentioned each members level of participation is at your discretion and we already have two non-currency nations in the NHU so we have had previous experience with such economies. The NS Earth is quite large, as too is our region, perhaps you would be interested in 'moving' to one of the more isolated allotments in the region? Otherwise only your representative to the Senate need ever be present in the region.

I'm really new and therefore don't really have a clue as to whats going on, but can I join

This is the reqruitment thread at our forum ---> http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_Non_Human_Union/index.php?showforum=210 all you have to do is sign up and then announce you are a member. Please be aware that not all the information in the FAQ is up to date.

Would you like to see a list of all the things TIN owns?

sure, you might also like to add it to the NHU forum

http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_Non_Human_Union/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=758225

for your viewing pleasure [tag]

*Biotopia is the sub-contental one in the north east

Dronios would like to join so this is a kind of [TAG].

sure, you might also like to add it to the NHU forum

I'm afraid i'm a bit busy right now, so i'll just put it in here.

Imperial Armada

10 Juggernaught-class Battlecruisers

20 Doomseeker-class Heavy Cruisers

40 Helios Light cruisers

100's of thousands of Imperial Fighters, Bombers, and Interceptors

5000 Imperial D-29 Dropships

In a time of non-war, The Imperial Navy only has 50% of it's fleet out on patrol, to keep maintinence costs at a minimum. In times of war, the Armada can summon the whole fleet into action. However this requires a great deal of manpower, so regular people are trained in a national service, then allowed to carry on with their lives until needed. The Imperial Armada is always ready for conflict.

Imperial Space Installations

Baltor Shipyard-one of the three Shipyards orbiting Tydus prime, the main Colony of The Imperial Navy. This Shipyard can build 10 Light cruisers in 1 year when needed. However at the moment it has a skeleton crew, as many are at the shipyard at Gaton Prime, working on a new project that is explained below.

Kothlis Shipyard-The second Shipyard of Tydus Prime, this shipyard produces Heavy Cruisers at a rate of 2 a year. This is also mainly empty as they are working at Gaton Prime.

Delta Prime Shipyard-The main shipyard of Tydus Prime, this is the only current full-manned shipyard in Tydus Prime. They are building an order of battleships at 1 every one and a half years, but with an order for 10 of them, this is one of the busiest shipyards. Costs are minimised by gathering supplies direct from the planets surface, instead of importing them.

Imperia 1-Defence battlestation for Tydus Prime, and Equipt with over 300 Different cannons. there is a cannon covering every arc of the stations fire, and has the ability to launch fighters, this is one of the Imperial Navy's most powerful non-mobile installations. Manned by a crew of 3000, maintinence is a constant chore. A similar type of station orbits all colonies, but of them all, this one is the most powerful.

Hellfire ShipyardA brand new Installation orbiting the lesser colony of Gaton Secondus, This shipyard is under heavy guard, as it is producing the new Doomsday-Class Heavy Battleship. Details of this ship are classified, but suffice to say it will be the most powerful ship in the fleet. It will be the Grand admirals flagship, as well as Transport for the Emperor to special occasions. A Massive shipyard, it has almost every shipbuilder in the Armada working on it. Gaton Secondus has been Training it's willing citizens on how to build ships, before sending them to help. Everyone building this ship will be getting a big bonus of Imperial Credits, meaning that this ship is both Costly and powerful.

Tracker-Class listening posts-These are staioned in orbit of Every colony of the Imperial Navy. Lightly armed and with limited fighter capabilities, they are not ready for battle, but they are always there to alert the Armada in times of need. Advanced scanning systems and boosted communication power mean they can see a threat from Trillions of miles away. But we do get our fair share of false alarms.... that turn out to be merchants. A new scanning system is currently under research.

Freeport 3-The newest trade Station to be under construction, it is 30% complete. Freeports 1 & 2 had to be scrapped after they proved obsolete and dangerous, this new station will be the center of Imperial Trade. Due to increasing pirate threat however, This trade station will be armed and guarded. Smugglers beware.

Yuri Mining Platform-The moon of Tydus Prime, Tydus Minor Is being mined by the Imperial Navy to get at the large pockets of Tibana gas near it's core. Tibana gas is a chemical we use in our weapons to increase firepower. Mining operations like this are set up all over our territories, but we take care not to upset nature. We do not mine all the gas, as this could have repercussions on the Enviroment of Tydus Prime, as lunar activity drives the tides, and a hollow moon will not do much. When we have mined enough we will move on.

Colonies

Tydus Prime-Primary Colony of The Imperial Navy, this is home to over 10 Million of our citizens. Commerce and trade cause a ripe bustling of activity all across the planets surface, as traders from other nations come to sell their wares. This Colony has generated great revenue for The Imperial treasury, and has proved to be a good choice of planet to settle down on. Job oppertunities lie in wait on Tydus prime for those who want them, from ship builders to traders.

Gaton Secondus-A thick, natural smog covers the surface of Gaton Secondus, but life can survive here. Terraforming has made it possible for even this planet to sustain life, provided they live in biospheres. Gaton secondus is a fully Industrail world, mining precious metals and diamond to be used in ship constuction, as these are merged in heat almost as great as a star to make the almost unbreakable metal Deterium, a compound of Titanium and Diamond. Life here is harsh, but in an attempt to calm the populace, workers are given as much free time as possible, and are given all the entertainment comforts of home. Automated machines do most of the work, so recently things have improved much. Also happening recently, workers are being trained to build ships, and then help in the constructions of the Doomsday-class heavy battleship.

Raltir II-A Frozen world recently occupied by The Imperial Navy. CLASSIFIED. LEVEL 2 CLEARENCE OR HIGHER REQUIRED.

Raltir III-A Desert world recently occupied by The Imperial Navy.
CLASSIFIED. LEVEL 2 CLEARENCE OR HIGHER REQUIRED.

telegram me if you want any more details. i'll get back to you when i can.

How can you think that by avoiding humans and isolating yourselves that you will ever be considered equal them? It is good to refrain from attempting to determine who is superior or inferior, but wouldn't it be better for you to increase diplomatic relations with human nations in an attempt to find some sort of middle ground? If you really tried, humans and non-humans could live togethor in peace. If this sounds a little "Prof. Xavieristic", or idealistic for your tastes, well then you need find hope and try to work things out with those narrow-minded humans. We can find peace.

-The Infinitely Powerful Being of The Dark Lord Chaos

Moles are non-human, however we are not persecuted. Mainly because we don't LIVE on earth, but...

Finally, the NHU has a four point Mantra of which all nations must abide by
Universal Declaration of the NHU:

All non-human species have the right to live their lives with the rights all humans have as covered in the UN human rights charter.
No sentinent being will be eaten
All non-humans and humans are equal
All non-human species have the right to self-determination
All non-human species have the right to live their lives with the rights all humans

Odd... I count five points. Furthermore, I always have to question a group or organization that defines itself by what it isn't. Isn't that really an admition of your own feelings of inferiority?

And I won't even get into the blantantly racist implications in your manifesto implying that all humans simply wish to enslave sentients of other species.

- Darggan Zarad, Office of Unofficial Official Statements
The Semi-Autonomous Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack

""This is David Webster reporting on the increasingly sensitive issue of the Non-Human Union.

How would the powers within the Non-Human Union respond to the apparently widespread allegations that far from being an organisation to foster relations between humans and non-humans and overcome racial prejudices it is actually an excuse and mechanism for Non-human species to isolate themselves, both physically and militaristically from their human counterparts and foster feelings of superiority over the human race as a whole?"

How can you think that by avoiding humans and isolating yourselves that you will ever be considered equal them? It is good to refrain from attempting to determine who is superior or inferior, but wouldn't it be better for you to increase diplomatic relations with human nations in an attempt to find some sort of middle ground? If you really tried, humans and non-humans could live together in peace. If this sounds a little "Prof. Xavieristic", or idealistic for your tastes, well then you need find hope and try to work things out with those narrow-minded humans. We can find peace.

-The Infinitely Powerful Being of The Dark Lord Chaos

Dear Dark Lord Chaos

Upon reading you communiqué I regrettably suspect that you have either not visited the forum site linked or misinterpreted the information provided. The NHU has no isolationist agenda. The purpose of the Non-Human Union is to open non-human nations to one another and provide resources, trade, cultural exchange and military protection. As emphasised the NHU does have human member states, however this broadsheet was designed to primarily recruit non-human nations as they are our primary concern. However I am encouraged by your optimistic tone and are happy to report that within the NHU there is a strong sense of non-human and human harmony working together in the central administrational institutions.

I invite you to become a “friend of the furies” on our forum site, simply join and I will adjust your membership to such. Unless you wish full membership…

Yours Humo Ljake
NHU International Relations

Odd... I count five points. Furthermore, I always have to question a group or organization that defines itself by what it isn't. Isn't that really an admition of your own feelings of inferiority?

And I won't even get into the blatantly racist implications in your manifesto implying that all humans simply wish to enslave sentients of other species.

- Darggan Zarad, Office of Unofficial Official Statements
The Semi-Autonomous Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack

Dear Darggan Zarad

Unfortunately you have fallen for the same fallacy as those that charge the Non-Human Union as being anti-human. Far from it, the only way we can achieve inter-species harmony is to embrace the recognition that all sentient species contain the capacity and will for compassion or ‘humanitarianism’.

The NHU does not institutionalise racism, we define groups by species and within species ethnic identification. The NHU can hardly be accused of racism when we are dealing with cross species issues. As for your allegations history has proven that non-humans are just as capable of bigotry, specisim and even genocide as humans.

Where you aware that the NHU funds a mandatory 10% of its income into foreign aid or $28,539,201,379,500 [UP]? The United Defence Forces receive only 2.35% more funding and the Universal Health Organization receives the most funding at $77,969,098,168,794 or 27.32% of funds available? Perhaps not.

Yours Humo Ljake
NHU International Relations

I have a question about my species and whether or not they are truly non-human. Inhabitants of the Okyton Empire can be described thus...

Post-Humans:

Tall and virtually indestructable androids, physically and mentally superior to humans in almost every way. Of the 2.3 billion that inhabit the Empire, at least 2 billion are suffering from extreme mental trauma after their fall from paradise, with the result that only a few hundred are actually active.

In short, they are humans who have tasted the paradise of an infinitly malleable universe, and now reside in artificially constructed bodies. Are the non-human because they look and think profoundly differently, or are they still human because thats what they started from?

We were persecuted by humans once, only once mind you. The primitive savages bludgeoned our initial expedition party to death, when we first landed on Earth 2,000 years ago. We destroyed their settlement and took control of their island in return. Since then we have had no direct contact with them.

Now that we are an Imperium once again, we will make no efforts to contact them, nor treat them as 'equals', which they clearly are not. They can live their lives without our interference as they are of no interest to us, and as such we see no need to join such a union. We wish you well, however, even if we don't comprehend your motives.

Aside from the NHU's worrying racist undertones, the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar would also warn all nations of the inherently socialist nature of the NHU, what with its involvement with IFTA (otherwise known as the Unconditional Surrender Treaty) and its close relations with the communistic econoterrorist bloc known as CACE. Lovers of freedom will find no solace with the NHU.

~Lord Túrelio nos Fingolfin
Prefect of State (aka Prefect of Statements that are Horrifyingly Blunt but Quite Cheerfully Official Nonetheless)
Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar

are they still human because thats what they started from?

Are Biotopians or Greater Bears still to be considered fish because somehwere along the evolutionary line they evolved from such organisims? Certainly not.

Are Post-Humans still able to produce fertile offspring with the average human? - this is one of the more enjoyable ways to investigate who belongs to the same species.

Dear Lord Túrelio nos Fingolfin

How pleasing it is to hear from our comrades of Elven solidarity in Menelmacar. It would appear that likewise your Lordship has either misread the information provided or is perhaps under the sway of that well-known assault on the senses, Menelmacar ideology. How can the tension between two or more species be called “racism” when “race” is not the issue or doesn’t even have a presence?

As for the near-liable allegation of the “inherently socialist nature of the NHU” I can understand no basis for this. Perhaps your Lordship has been spending too much time recently inventing new styles of wit to read the newspapers, if you have those. Biotopia, the only CACE member I am aware of has quit the CACE is being formerly expelled from the IFTA and has suspended its relationship with the NHU while it develops into a Free-For-All consumerist paradise.

The only IFTA member currently is Hell Bovines, one of the poorest nations in the NHU, this hardly constitutes a great socialist attack on the foundations of capitalism. Also imposing minimum civil and political rights and providing an open forum for debate seems like a light-year leap in comparison to the organization of some non-humans.

Yours Humo Ljake
NHU International Relations

B to the U to the M to the P

Bump

Another benift of joining is the fact my people limit their activities to practical jokes & other minor activities within your nation ^_^

PS for those who haven't met me before my people are about 13 cm tall with wings, a common misconception is that we are fairies.....this is wrong fairies are evil shapeshifters who assume our shape to lead innocent humans & other races into fairy rings to steal their souls. If you see pigeons then there are Winged Gremlins around.......I'll say this now "Sorry!" (In referance to the saying "Must be the Damn Gremlins again!").

Interesting. I shall keep you in mind, though I do not wish to join at this time.
-Princess Magrat of Magi Maru.

(OOC: The inhabitants of Magi Maru are intelligent felines with a certain amount of shapeshifting ability- they can take on human form, or a form in between cat and human, and a few have mastered additional forms as well. In personality, however, they are utterly feline...)

Emperor Gorrm has outlined our traditions and culture to your union once, to illustrate how our two entities, in a broad sense, would not be compatible. This is not to say that perhaps some manner of treatise could not occur. Currently, trade reforms are underway in the Empire. Agreements that no longer serve their original intent are being swept off the table, or re-assessed. New treaty proposals are being given scrutiny.

In this spirit, it is reccomended that perhaps we begin trade talks?

CEO Kargaah
Imperial Trade Minister
Hreer Weapon Works