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THE INTERNATIONAL FLEET INITIATIVE

We ask our neighbors and nations of earth to join in and contribute to the founding of an International Fleet

I The primary purpose of which will be to defend the peaceful efforts of humanity in space. Including but not limited to scientific research, exploration, industrialization, colonization and the infrastructure and facility construction work required to these ends.

II The secondary purpose of the International Fleet will be the long range manned exploration of our system and scouting for future colony sites plus any scientific research and development required to that end.

In case a hostile force or regime attacks an International Fleet member state, threatining the space assets and capacity to contribute to the International Fleet - the International Fleet Defense Initiative will be implemented and the nation interest will be defended using all resources available to the International Fleet at any means neccesary.

The requirements for entrance under the protection of the International Fleet is a simple & small variable tax rate on your nations gnp that will be dedicated to the development of fleet resources. In adition to this minimal requirement your nation may contribute what physical and intellectual resources it wants to that is aproved by International Fleet Command - which will be a council of representatives of the IF Protectorate - member states.

The second minima for entrance into IF membership is the aquisition of all space assets not dedicated to space exploration and related scientific research - including but not limited to; spaceborne WMD, orbital weapons platforms, combat spaceplanes, orbital combat support stations and/or vehicles.

Securing space from war is the single most important mission in space that most succeed and requires the support of all Space fairing nations. Join us and enter the future.
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International Fleet Member States

-Democratic Union of Asian nations
Greater Beijing - China
Shandong-Jiangsu - China
Zhejiang - China

-Southeast Asian nations
Kanabia - Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos

-Independant Spaceborne nations
Nubrium - Lunar Surface
Luna I - GEO

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Zhejiang dedicates the Capital Conference Centre to the International Space Exploration Conference and the Diplomatic Missions and Embassy's of the Democratic Union of Asia & reserves transportation services for diplomatic personel.
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The Republic of Luna I dedicates the recently completed Orbital Shipyards above the Luna I Copernicus site and the recently launched Naval Experiment 2, our first extended range exploration cruiser, the Cortez to the International Fleet.

The Cortez will move into geosynchronous earth orbit to dock with Gateway station where a fleet of Aerospace shuttles will be available to ferry potential investors and new IF members to the cruiser for talks.
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The Colonial Republic of Nubrium dedicates the new permanent research facilities adjacent to our capital centre on the moon to advance the state of art in biomedical sciences, life support and extended range manned space flight for the robust future exploration of Mars.
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OOC NOTE(this is for serious near future Roleplay only - circa de 2020-2030)

The founding of an International Fleet to maintain a weapons free space environment is probably the single most important development of this century - and well allow humanities pioneering spirit to enter space without the fear of war!

Impossing a tiny tax to finance such a venture is a small price to pay to protect the future generations of explorers and scientist in space!

I think a space fleet is a terrible idea. Not only are the chances of encountering another species in space low, but the chances that they are hostile are even lower. Not only would the IF be a waste of money, but it would be a waste of talent; implementation would require large number of military personel not only in space but in construction facilities here on earth.


Say no to IF

Luna I is already a Nation dedicated to space exploration with the majority of our population at the Copernicus crater site already. The idea of encountering another species was and is not why the International Fleet is needed. The IF is needed to protect those nations whos goal in space is purely scientific from those nations whose goals in space is to exploit it for military reasons. Put plainly the IF is needed to secure the space from become the warzone of the future so that humanity can explore without the threat of war.

The Secondary charter of the IF also ensures that the invested resources will not be a waste in the light of complete success in the Primary charter, Interplanetary security. The member nations of the international fleet view this organization imperative for the future of humanity in continued space exploration.

The region, 'Democratic Union of Asia' is now home of the International Fleet and the International Space Exploration Conference.

uhmm ...bump?! :D

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Hi. You should probably find another crater, as Menelmacar has had a sizable colony in the Copernicus crater for well over a year (realtime).

Just thought I'd mention that. Have a nice day.

Hi. You should probably find another crater, as Menelmacar has had a sizable colony in the Copernicus crater for well over a year (realtime).

Just thought I'd mention that. Have a nice day.

*n00kz teh m00n*
There, many many new craters on the moon now.

I'll stick to my own fleet and colonies, thank you very much.

What can you tell me about your colony besides that its in the same crater. Our initial scans didnt detect anything. Maybe we can share it - but we plan on eventually turning it into a domed city, the entire crater, this would benifit both out colonies.

OOC:I wish there was a registry of Lunar Colonies somewhere.

What can you tell me about your colony besides that its in the same crater. Our initial scans didnt detect anything. Maybe we can share it - but we plan on eventually turning it into a domed city, the entire crater, this would benifit both out colonies.

OOC:I wish there was a registry of Lunar Colonies somewhere.

Well, see, that's the problem. We sort of already domed the crater and there are millions of people living there, and in several nearby craters as well. How you could have missed the colony, we're not sure, really.

Well, see, that's the problem. We sort of already domed the crater and there are millions of people living there, and in several nearby craters as well. How you could have missed the colony, we're not sure, really.

I'm quite sure that smear in the dome might have somthing to do with it... :-)

Are you absolutely certain you're in the Copernicus crater? Perhaps you landed in a different crater by mistake, and there is a malfunction in your colony vessel's guidance systems.

I'll stick to my own fleet and colonies, thank you very much.

The magnitude of what humanity can acomplish together could no doubt ecplipse one nations individual achievments in space. How many capital class exploration/colonial ships do you have and whats the size and location of your colonies presently.

We have one ship, an unlimited fleet of light transports, and 2 space stations, 1 in earth GEorbit and one directly over the Copernicus-Luna I site.

Are you absolutely certain you're in the Copernicus crater? Perhaps you landed in a different crater by mistake, and there is a malfunction in your colony vessel's guidance systems.

Not possible. Is your colony cloaked?

Um... no... it's a quite noticeable crater-size dome with parks and cities and a good-sized lake under it. Not to mention all sorts of shipping and comm traffic. Only way you could have missed it, really, would be if you were flying completely blind, or had landed in an entirely different crater.

Um... no... it's a quite noticeable crater-size dome with parks and cities and a good-sized lake under it. Not to mention all sorts of shipping and comm traffic. Only way you could have missed it, really, would be if you were flying completely blind, or had landed in an entirely different crater.
There really is no need for insults.

Heres what we propose - we will leave the Copernicus crater if you could provide us with the materials we need to build a large self sustaining ringstyle colony in space. At the gravitational nullpoint between Earth and Moon. We could hand over a large portion of our robotics industry to help you expand your colony for this purpose. And we will share any new advance space propulsion and aerospace patents with you to help streamline progress, this will include but not be limited to production rights on the new aeropsace transport which is capable of an independant earth launch to a Lunar landing and return to earth orbit without refueling or docking with a support station, with a full load. In addition we will leave our underground industrial facilities intact from which large scale mining operations were nearing opening readiness - but this would have to be expanded on a large scale to facilitate the material products we would require for Luna I.

If youre at the Copernicus site you have no doubt seen our robotics industries in action - there is no need for subterfuge - if you wish your Colonies precise location in the Copernicus crater to remain a secret we can respect that and leave altogether though, it will be up to you.

But this deal if you accept we believe to be in the best interest of both our nations and to the benifit of a robust lunar economy.

Prime Minister Rivera, Luna I, Cortez

The year is 2030. Maybe that has something to do with it - when did your nation begin its space program?

I'm reading elevated chronoton particles eminating from the southern side of the copernicus crater sir - the signal from Menelmacar is breaking up - chronoton field destabalizing. Maybe those signals came from the future.

:D

OOC(this is for near future - around 2030 serious roleplay only)

OOC:
In the event that two nations have claims/colonies in the same spot, and were or are unaware of each other, do what most folks do; both are valid, seperate areas.

Basicly, Nation A called Crater 1 'copernicus', while Nation B called Crater 2 'copernicus'; hence you both have copernicus crater colonies, they just happen to be different craters with the same name.

Simple, and it avoids situations akin to finding out you've been living in the same house with twenty other guys for three years and haven't noticed befor now.

OOC:thanks but theres only one Copernicus crater.
http://www.lunarrepublic.com

Ill let him conceder the offer and maybe a little RP in the right time(2030)

An IF or space equivalent of a United Nations would be great material for debates and issues. Anybody know anything about current space law?

OOC:thanks but theres only one Copernicus crater.
http://www.lunarrepublic.com

Ill let him conceder the offer and maybe a little RP in the right time(2030)

An IF or space equivalent of a United Nations would be great material for debates and issues. Anybody know anything about current space law?

OOC:
There is only one North America iRL; there are likly hundreds in NS, at the very least. Same goes for most geographical locations.

There is no reason that there can't be more than one Copernicus crater. Logisticly, it's the simplest, and only real practical soloution considering the scope of NS' player community.

OOC:
There is only one North America iRL; there are likly hundreds in NS, at the very least. Same goes for most geographical locations.

It's similar here-there are two Galactic Empire-style nations. me and Imperial Forces. But we ignore that and treat ourselves like totally different nations. Then again it's not a problem now... i mean, his government turned out totally different from mine.

The magnitude of what humanity can acomplish together could no doubt ecplipse one nations individual achievments in space. How many capital class exploration/colonial ships do you have and whats the size and location of your colonies presently.

We have one ship, an unlimited fleet of light transports, and 2 space stations, 1 in earth GEorbit and one directly over the Copernicus-Luna I site.

Imperial Armada

10 Juggernaught-class Battlecruisers

20 Doomseeker-class Heavy Cruisers

40 Helios Light cruisers

100's of thousands of Imperial Fighters, Bombers, and Interceptors

5000 Imperial D-29 Dropships

In a time of non-war, The Imperial Navy only has 50% of it's fleet out on patrol, to keep maintinence costs at a minimum. In times of war, the Armada can summon the whole fleet into action. However this requires a great deal of manpower, so regular people are trained in a national service, then allowed to carry on with their lives until needed. The Imperial Armada is always ready for conflict.

Imperial Space Installations

Baltor Shipyard-one of the three Shipyards orbiting Tydus prime, the main Colony of The Imperial Navy. This Shipyard can build 10 Light cruisers in 1 year when needed. However at the moment it has a skeleton crew, as many are at the shipyard at Gaton Prime, working on a new project that is explained below.

Kothlis Shipyard-The second Shipyard of Tydus Prime, this shipyard produces Heavy Cruisers at a rate of 2 a year. This is also mainly empty as they are working at Gaton Prime.

Delta Prime Shipyard-The main shipyard of Tydus Prime, this is the only current full-manned shipyard in Tydus Prime. They are building an order of battleships at 1 every one and a half years, but with an order for 10 of them, this is one of the busiest shipyards. Costs are minimised by gathering supplies direct from the planets surface, instead of importing them.

Imperia 1-Defence battlestation for Tydus Prime, and Equipt with over 300 Different cannons. there is a cannon covering every arc of the stations fire, and has the ability to launch fighters, this is one of the Imperial Navy's most powerful non-mobile installations. Manned by a crew of 3000, maintinence is a constant chore. A similar type of station orbits all colonies, but of them all, this one is the most powerful.

Hellfire ShipyardA brand new Installation orbiting the lesser colony of Gaton Secondus, This shipyard is under heavy guard, as it is producing the new Doomsday-Class Heavy Battleship. Details of this ship are classified, but suffice to say it will be the most powerful ship in the fleet. It will be the Grand admirals flagship, as well as Transport for the Emperor to special occasions. A Massive shipyard, it has almost every shipbuilder in the Armada working on it. Gaton Secondus has been Training it's willing citizens on how to build ships, before sending them to help. Everyone building this ship will be getting a big bonus of Imperial Credits, meaning that this ship is both Costly and powerful.

Tracker-Class listening posts-These are staioned in orbit of Every colony of the Imperial Navy. Lightly armed and with limited fighter capabilities, they are not ready for battle, but they are always there to alert the Armada in times of need. Advanced scanning systems and boosted communication power mean they can see a threat from Trillions of miles away. But we do get our fair share of false alarms.... that turn out to be merchants. A new scanning system is currently under research.

Freeport 3-The newest trade Station to be under construction, it is 30% complete. Freeports 1 & 2 had to be scrapped after they proved obsolete and dangerous, this new station will be the center of Imperial Trade. Due to increasing pirate threat however, This trade station will be armed and guarded. Smugglers beware.

Yuri Mining Platform-The moon of Tydus Prime, Tydus Minor Is being mined by the Imperial Navy to get at the large pockets of Tibana gas near it's core. Tibana gas is a chemical we use in our weapons to increase firepower. Mining operations like this are set up all over our territories, but we take care not to upset nature. We do not mine all the gas, as this could have repercussions on the Enviroment of Tydus Prime, as lunar activity drives the tides, and a hollow moon will not do much. When we have mined enough we will move on.

Colonies

Tydus Prime-Primary Colony of The Imperial Navy, this is home to over 10 Million of our citizens. Commerce and trade cause a ripe bustling of activity all across the planets surface, as traders from other nations come to sell their wares. This Colony has generated great revenue for The Imperial treasury, and has proved to be a good choice of planet to settle down on. Job oppertunities lie in wait on Tydus prime for those who want them, from ship builders to traders.

Gaton Secondus-A thick, natural smog covers the surface of Gaton Secondus, but life can survive here. Terraforming has made it possible for even this planet to sustain life, provided they live in biospheres. Gaton secondus is a fully Industrail world, mining precious metals and diamond to be used in ship constuction, as these are merged in heat almost as great as a star to make the almost unbreakable metal Deterium, a compound of Titanium and Diamond. Life here is harsh, but in an attempt to calm the populace, workers are given as much free time as possible, and are given all the entertainment comforts of home. Automated machines do most of the work, so recently things have improved much. Also happening recently, workers are being trained to build ships, and then help in the constructions of the Doomsday-class heavy battleship.

Raltir II-A Frozen world recently occupied by The Imperial Navy. CLASSIFIED. LEVEL 2 CLEARENCE OR HIGHER REQUIRED.

Raltir III-A Desert world recently occupied by The Imperial Navy.
CLASSIFIED. LEVEL 2 CLEARENCE OR HIGHER REQUIRED.


Need any more info? i'd be glad to type it.

estimated time on earth in your roleplay?

estimated time on earth in your roleplay?

i think it's now about the year 3023 in my nation. way ahead of most. some still role play with me though.

i think it's now about the year 3023 in my nation. way ahead of most. some still role play with me though.

Ah ha - then allow me to refresh your memory ;)

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OOC(this is for near future - around 2030 serious roleplay only)

Get the hell out of here so we can get back on topic - unless youre capable of some creative way of reducing your technology to an entrance level space program for a nation of a few billion, what, no? Okay - thanks anyway :D

OOC:Isnt there anybody outthere interested in roleplay at this level?

Greetings. Today on "Don't folks do the funniest things?" we would like to talk about the most recent controversy to come from Earth. Quite amazingly, the Earth's moon is the centre of this one. The well established Menelmacari lunar colony has recently had a squatter problem. A nation called Luna I has moved in, and seems intent on using the opportunity to extort money out of Menelmacar to leave. Most of us find this highly amusing given the capacity of our friends in the Noldorin empire to evict such squatters...

"The Commonality suggested this some time ago, with little interest. We would say we are interesting in contributing, but frankly, the proposal is too restrictive. So, we're not interested. Which would make saying we are quite, quite dishonest.

"And nobody likes dishonesty. Do they?"

~ Junior Ambassador Eleth

Greetings. Today on "Don't folks do the funniest things?" we would like to talk about the most recent controversy to come from Earth. Quite amazingly, the Earth's moon is the centre of this one. The well established Menelmacari lunar colony has recently had a squatter problem. A nation called Luna I has moved in, and seems intent on using the opportunity to extort money out of Menelmacar to leave. Most of us find this highly amusing given the capacity of our friends in the Noldorin empire to evict such squatters...

Never heard of the Noldorin empire - how long have you conducted a space program?

OOC: Once again I would like to refer you to the note at the strat of this thread - for serious near future 2030 serious roleplaying only.

"The Commonality suggested this some time ago, with little interest. We would say we are interesting in contributing, but frankly, the proposal is too restrictive. So, we're not interested. Which would make saying we are quite, quite dishonest.

"And nobody likes dishonesty. Do they?"

~ Junior Ambassador Eleth

Its the only way to consolidate the allainces resources effectively. If everynation decided to build thier own space security agencies and outfit them with different ships and weapons then youd end up with an irregular force and an inefficient production economy that would eventually lead to more friction than what we need.

Conceder how much stronger a force the IF would be if the IF Council decided on which capital class ship designs and stations to build and then leavied all of our resources to those projects.

Now I'd ask you to reconceder - and tell me how would you want to amend the charter if you decided to join the league?

By default - of course the Pacific Nation of China that gave birth to Luna I will sign up for the International Fleet.

Signing to take place at 0900 Hours tomarow aboard the IFS Cortez in GEO.

Never heard of the Noldorin empire - how long have you conducted a space program?

OOC: Once again I would like to refer you to the note at the strat of this thread - for serious near future 2030 serious roleplaying only.

OOC: Menelmacar, Eternal Noldorin Empire of. See the game mod who posted above.

Get the hell out of here so we can get back on topic - unless youre capable of some creative way of reducing your technology to an entrance level space program for a nation of a few billion, what, no? Okay - thanks anyway :D

It's a temper like that that will lose you friends. be a little more polite in future, or i may choose to hate you. for now, meh.

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OOC:Sorry m8 - no temper though - nothing but love for you baby :D

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We are 3 Nations.

OOC : I should List those 3 as signing the Initiative on the proposal huh? Need more giblets! :D

Its the only way to consolidate the allainces resources effectively. If everynation decided to build thier own space security agencies and outfit them with different ships and weapons then youd end up with an irregular force and an inefficient production economy that would eventually lead to more friction than what we need.

Conceder how much stronger a force the IF would be if the IF Council decided on which capital class ship designs and stations to build and then leavied all of our resources to those projects.

Now I'd ask you to reconceder - and tell me how would you want to amend the charter if you decided to join the league?

"Frankly, we don't see the need. The Commonality Space Force is perfectly capable of dealing with threats to our own shipping, and we never ignore a distress call. Indeed, CSF warships are constantly orbiting the Sun at the prerequisite velocity to make a series of Transitions to any point in the Solar System, if needed. We are sure we're not the only ones to never refuse a distress call, either. We would far rather that nations co-operated loosely to ensure the safety of all, rather than potentially giving up military secrets to others to ensure said safety."

~ ~ Junior Ambassador Eleth

Military Secrets would not be needed between International Fleet member states - infact if all space security concerns were tacled by the combined resources of the memberstates of the IF any distressing situation could be prepared for in advance in the future exporation of the solarsystem.

The IF does not have dedicate warships in security division but we have a few plans on the table we would really be apreciative if a representative from Ma-tek could look over our plans.

OOC:how long have you been in space and whats your nation of origin?

"Frankly, we don't see the need. The Commonality Space Force is perfectly capable of dealing with threats to our own shipping, and we never ignore a distress call. Indeed, CSF warships are constantly orbiting the Sun at the prerequisite velocity to make a series of Transitions to any point in the Solar System, if needed. We are sure we're not the only ones to never refuse a distress call, either. We would far rather that nations co-operated loosely to ensure the safety of all, rather than potentially giving up military secrets to others to ensure said safety."

~ ~ Junior Ambassador Eleth

How many nations are part of this commonality? How have you mustered the resources for a standing fleet of warships?

"To Luna 1: the Commonality of Everlasting Light is composed of two Provinces, Ma-tek and Ax-turath, one city-state, Ma-Nenya, and the Sol Orbital Colony of Vilya Elenosto and Associated Powers. We muster enough resources by buying them, or mining them, or manufacturing them. These are simple processes: wherein you give people funds, and they give you resources, or wherein you dig a big hole, and extract minerals from the ground. Or, if you do as we do, then you don't actually dig a big hole - but I digress. Further, we have mining facilities in Vilya Elenoston Space, where we've dragged several asteroids from the inner belt. Manufacturing is where you make things out of other things, just to be utterly clear.

"I'm sure you're asking 'how do you afford it'. Well, tax. Two billion people generate quite alot of income, you know.

"To Zhejiang: we would be glad to offer military advisement, but we do not have any active diplomatic ties to any of the current IF members. Therefore, any such advisement would be impossible."

~ Ambassador Neurat

[OOC: How long in space? Hrm. Since January 2003, and the launch of our first atmospheric/spatial superiority interceptor, the M#. The first actual warship was launched about six months after that, if I recall correctly. I'm not sure what you mean by 'nation of origin', though...]

Youre welcome to the Cortez and gateway station in GEO above Zhejiang anytime for talks - I will host your diplomatic mission free of all cost to you.

We currently have mining operations on the Moon at the Nubrium plains and at the Copernicus site. Our space fleet consist of 1 Exploration Cruiser, the Cortez and 3 light carriers supporting Aerospace operations above Zhejiang since hostilities are immenant there.

We are looking to expand our mining operations as you have and would apreciate any advice you could have on the challenges of towing/boosting asteroids into stable orbits.

Signs up - no space program - but our new university system needs access to world class research facilities.

And the protection of the International Fleet at the moment is probably essential to maintaining our independance from China.

-Sun

Same here.

We can manage the taxes inturn for garunteed protection - probably essential to maintaining the Democratic Union of Asia independant from Chinese large scale insurgency.

we are in Long live the Fleet!

WOHOOO we are 6 with the addition of Kanabia of South East Asia.

I believe this addition to be the begining indication of larger International cooperation. We expect a larger turnout in Zhejiang this year for the International Space Exploration Conference.