Vrak
17-09-2004, 07:27
OOC: This is, for all intents and purposes, OOC knowledge. Quite doubtful that anyone would be able to pick up the meeting, unless of course you were disguised as a walrus I suppose...:)
OOC Constructive criticism is welcome.
IC:
Somewhere in Vrak…
Translated from Vrakian.
The High Admiral, along with his staff, sat at the large granite conference table. Its surface was polished and reflected the overhead lights which were not set to maximum illumination. The walrus turned slightly and then said.
-Let’s not be so formal with protocol here. We have to focus on solving some serious issues here before us and so I don’t want to bog things down. That being said, everyone must have their turn.
The other walruses stiffened slightly. Usually the High Admiral was quite strict in address so this did come as a surprise. The High Admiral, sensing the mood, began.
-So, what are the latest figures regarding personnel?
-High Admiral, we currently have a force strength of slightly over 4 million total naval personnel. This does not include the roughly 30% that is subtracted from the annual recruitment totals and has to be adjusted for logistical matters. As well, the way our structure is set up, each type and class of ship requires a different logistical total. For example, a destroyer requires a smaller logistical crew than a battleship but the basic ratio remains the same…
-Yes, yes. I’m familiar with that. What I need to know is how we can best absorb the newly acquired ships. Not just from Ilek-Vaad, since most of those are for the JDF. I’m also talking about the ships from Santa Barbara and Tappee.
-Don’t forget that we recently purchased the production rights for the Frunze-class battleship.
-Yes, but those will take a while to build. I’m more concerned with the ships we have now. How many are there again?
-Err…[A quick tap on a keyboard]…12 “Hamas” class battleships, 12 Dauntless Class Ship
and 6 Aeris Class carriers.
-24 battleships. And the new carriers can hold far more than our current carriers?
-Right. They can hold up to 4 squadrons, or 104 planes. Depends on the size of the plane though. I should add that the Dauntless can act as our new command ships here.
-And how many projection fleets do we have now?
-10. We also have 6 of each type of hunter/killer fleets.
-Okay, so that’s about 724 000 personnel just for the projection fleets. I think we ought to leave the subs alone.
There was a general murmur of agreement.
-We also have a crapload of amphibious assault vessels. Too many if you ask me. We can move a lot of men and equipment but we haven’t used them at all. We should either scrap them or transfer them to the JDF.
-Well, we don’t want to have too few in case we need to do something. After all, the Klatch does have assets not in the FKC proper but also in the acquired land bought by the…who was it again…the Privy Council?
-Land that is basically uninhabited…
-Still, run me some calculations about what the minimum troop transfer projections are. That is, I doubt we need to be able to move an entire HORDE group. But certainly we should be able to move a few divisions if the situation arises. Better talk to the army on that.
-Yes, High Admiral.
-If I may, High Admiral, integrating the new ships is not just about moving around numbers but also the quality of those numbers. Certainly, our Soyuz and Kreml crews should have the least difficulty in moving to the new ships but I worry about the rest.
-What about the reserve/militia? Can we not fast-track them into moving upwards into our regular forces and then transfer the regular crews displaced into the training programs for the ships?
-Well, I think that it might be more prudent to cut down the number of ships in the reserves/militia. Quite frankly, we have too many guardian fleets and too many personnel in the navy in that part of the military.
-Remember that they act more as a coast guard and as a training ground for some that want to re-enlist.
-87 type one fleets, 84 type 2 and 6 type three? I may remind you that I find destroyers on Lake Olympus to be a stupid idea. Our Kravoli craft should be sufficient enough. We are darn lucky that LOW hasn’t sunk any of them yet.
-Fine. If we reduce it to 50 fleets in total, what does that give us?
-If we reduce 62 fleets from type one, 59 from type two, and only keep the Kravoli patrol boats for type 3 on the lake…[some typing could be heard]…about 437743 personnel.
-I prefer keeping as many Kravoli patrol boats and Molniya corvettes in service as possible. They’re good ships and perform most rescue missions adequately. Besides, folding the destroyers and frigates into the regular fleets shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The older ones we can always sell or scrap. I never was in favour of having destroyers in our guardian fleets.
-You are forgetting that the guardian fleets themselves have to perform long range patrols.
-I have a better idea for that…
-Now is not the time. The current configuration will be kept for type one and two with type three assets being reduced to the Kravoli vessels. But submit to me your ideas on a possible revamp of our guardian fleets.
-Yes, High Admiral.
-Anyhow, nearly 440 thousand that could be moved over…
-Keep in mind, that doesn’t mean they can all run battleships. I think the fact that we have more Kreml crews than the newly purchased Aeris carriers means we shouldn’t run into too many problems there. And some of the destroyer and frigate crews can easily be folded. Running these battleships is what I worried about.
-Indeed. It comes down to the expense of either retraining the old crews or starting off the new recruits on the new equipment.
-Right. I don’t think the readiness levels will be adequate in transferring even our existing crews over, at least for a short duration. Obviously, a phased approach is best. Even though we have more personnel than ever, we are faced with a quality shortage. How long will it take to train these new crews – irregardless of where they come from?
-At least 6 months, most likely one to one and a half years.
-So, we gradually phase out the Soyuz III here. Can we at least man some of the new battleships?
-Certainly, High Admiral. Some Soyuz III crews will move to the Dauntless-class since those will be the new command vessels. The rest will take about a year. Six months is, well, optimistic.
-I mean 6 months from our existing crews. The other total refer to new recruits or those from the reserve/militia. Certainly the support numbers can be more easily moved to the new ships rather than the actual crews themselves.
-And so our new configurations will then revolve around the Aeris carriers and Dauntless battleships. Then the Hamas and Frunze-class battleships can be added on. I don’t want to get rid of all our Kreml carriers. I still see a role for them.
-We may not have too. As well, we can perhaps look into either constructing more Aeris carriers or a new design. After all, a more agile fleet is what we want here. Still, if we reduce our Kreml carrier numbers, then they would be cast in a more ‘rapid response’ role rather than our heavy hitting Aeris carriers. Ultimately they can be phased out.
-Agreed. So, if we reduce our projection fleets down to 4…
There was a collective gasp. Sure the High Admiral must be mad. Detecting the shock, the High Admiral boomed.
-We have to take drastic measure to integrate the fleets. Four projection fleets along with twelve hunter/killer fleets and 50 guardian fleets certainly can defend our lands. Besides, there are few avenues of attack, considering our geography. We are relatively safe since North Germania lies to our west and Dukratus to our south. And any attacker would have to come past them first. Not to mention the newly laid SOSUS-style net. And I don’t believe that any attacker will be coming across the North Sea anytime soon. If they do, it will be in the manner that Dozle did. Our costal defenses are more than up to the task of defending against a North Sea attack. Besides, they won’t be using ships, but most likely drop ships or other manner of aircraft. The sooner we make the cuts now, the easier it will be to bring in the new ships. How is the current training going on now?
-Well, lately we’ve been concentrating more on battleships as per your orders. Assuming the rest of the cruiser, destroyer, frigate ratios remain the same and with our current recruitment levels…[more tapping]…let’s see, about 35000 personnel per 100 million level…105 000…usual ratios…
-No. Forget the usual ratios. How many battleships can we man with what we have in the pipeline now?
-Err…roughly? About…9 Dauntless-class. I’m extrapolating here from the Soyuz III. The Dauntless crews are a bit smaller. The Hamas and Frunze are comparable in size. I’m assuming here that the crews from the Soyuz III transfer to the Hamas class. So we can man 6 Hamas class with crew transfer and 9 Dauntless in the pipe within, say about 6-12 months. As well, the Aeris carriers are about twice as much as our carriers in regards to manpower. So…that roughly works out to about 3 Aeris being manned within a year with about 2 more after that, assuming all the Kremls are phased out. That leaves 3 more Dauntless class.
-We have to re-evaluate our long-term training regimes and fleet configurations. We can integrate the ships but, frankly, it is quite a lot to absorb.
-Training the reserve/militia may be able to take on the rest of the ships. That is, as we discussed earlier, some existing crews now could probably be retrained for the remainder of the ships and the upcoming Frunze class without sacrificing the current ratios of destroyers, cruisers, and frigates.
-I trust that all of you can rise to the challenge. I want those new ships in service as soon as possible without too much sacrifice in regards to readiness. I’d rather have a well-manned destroyer than an ineptly-run carrier.
-As you command, High Admiral.
The walruses filed out, leaving the High Admiral alone in his thoughts. Soon, he sketched out something on a bit of paper...
OOC Constructive criticism is welcome.
IC:
Somewhere in Vrak…
Translated from Vrakian.
The High Admiral, along with his staff, sat at the large granite conference table. Its surface was polished and reflected the overhead lights which were not set to maximum illumination. The walrus turned slightly and then said.
-Let’s not be so formal with protocol here. We have to focus on solving some serious issues here before us and so I don’t want to bog things down. That being said, everyone must have their turn.
The other walruses stiffened slightly. Usually the High Admiral was quite strict in address so this did come as a surprise. The High Admiral, sensing the mood, began.
-So, what are the latest figures regarding personnel?
-High Admiral, we currently have a force strength of slightly over 4 million total naval personnel. This does not include the roughly 30% that is subtracted from the annual recruitment totals and has to be adjusted for logistical matters. As well, the way our structure is set up, each type and class of ship requires a different logistical total. For example, a destroyer requires a smaller logistical crew than a battleship but the basic ratio remains the same…
-Yes, yes. I’m familiar with that. What I need to know is how we can best absorb the newly acquired ships. Not just from Ilek-Vaad, since most of those are for the JDF. I’m also talking about the ships from Santa Barbara and Tappee.
-Don’t forget that we recently purchased the production rights for the Frunze-class battleship.
-Yes, but those will take a while to build. I’m more concerned with the ships we have now. How many are there again?
-Err…[A quick tap on a keyboard]…12 “Hamas” class battleships, 12 Dauntless Class Ship
and 6 Aeris Class carriers.
-24 battleships. And the new carriers can hold far more than our current carriers?
-Right. They can hold up to 4 squadrons, or 104 planes. Depends on the size of the plane though. I should add that the Dauntless can act as our new command ships here.
-And how many projection fleets do we have now?
-10. We also have 6 of each type of hunter/killer fleets.
-Okay, so that’s about 724 000 personnel just for the projection fleets. I think we ought to leave the subs alone.
There was a general murmur of agreement.
-We also have a crapload of amphibious assault vessels. Too many if you ask me. We can move a lot of men and equipment but we haven’t used them at all. We should either scrap them or transfer them to the JDF.
-Well, we don’t want to have too few in case we need to do something. After all, the Klatch does have assets not in the FKC proper but also in the acquired land bought by the…who was it again…the Privy Council?
-Land that is basically uninhabited…
-Still, run me some calculations about what the minimum troop transfer projections are. That is, I doubt we need to be able to move an entire HORDE group. But certainly we should be able to move a few divisions if the situation arises. Better talk to the army on that.
-Yes, High Admiral.
-If I may, High Admiral, integrating the new ships is not just about moving around numbers but also the quality of those numbers. Certainly, our Soyuz and Kreml crews should have the least difficulty in moving to the new ships but I worry about the rest.
-What about the reserve/militia? Can we not fast-track them into moving upwards into our regular forces and then transfer the regular crews displaced into the training programs for the ships?
-Well, I think that it might be more prudent to cut down the number of ships in the reserves/militia. Quite frankly, we have too many guardian fleets and too many personnel in the navy in that part of the military.
-Remember that they act more as a coast guard and as a training ground for some that want to re-enlist.
-87 type one fleets, 84 type 2 and 6 type three? I may remind you that I find destroyers on Lake Olympus to be a stupid idea. Our Kravoli craft should be sufficient enough. We are darn lucky that LOW hasn’t sunk any of them yet.
-Fine. If we reduce it to 50 fleets in total, what does that give us?
-If we reduce 62 fleets from type one, 59 from type two, and only keep the Kravoli patrol boats for type 3 on the lake…[some typing could be heard]…about 437743 personnel.
-I prefer keeping as many Kravoli patrol boats and Molniya corvettes in service as possible. They’re good ships and perform most rescue missions adequately. Besides, folding the destroyers and frigates into the regular fleets shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The older ones we can always sell or scrap. I never was in favour of having destroyers in our guardian fleets.
-You are forgetting that the guardian fleets themselves have to perform long range patrols.
-I have a better idea for that…
-Now is not the time. The current configuration will be kept for type one and two with type three assets being reduced to the Kravoli vessels. But submit to me your ideas on a possible revamp of our guardian fleets.
-Yes, High Admiral.
-Anyhow, nearly 440 thousand that could be moved over…
-Keep in mind, that doesn’t mean they can all run battleships. I think the fact that we have more Kreml crews than the newly purchased Aeris carriers means we shouldn’t run into too many problems there. And some of the destroyer and frigate crews can easily be folded. Running these battleships is what I worried about.
-Indeed. It comes down to the expense of either retraining the old crews or starting off the new recruits on the new equipment.
-Right. I don’t think the readiness levels will be adequate in transferring even our existing crews over, at least for a short duration. Obviously, a phased approach is best. Even though we have more personnel than ever, we are faced with a quality shortage. How long will it take to train these new crews – irregardless of where they come from?
-At least 6 months, most likely one to one and a half years.
-So, we gradually phase out the Soyuz III here. Can we at least man some of the new battleships?
-Certainly, High Admiral. Some Soyuz III crews will move to the Dauntless-class since those will be the new command vessels. The rest will take about a year. Six months is, well, optimistic.
-I mean 6 months from our existing crews. The other total refer to new recruits or those from the reserve/militia. Certainly the support numbers can be more easily moved to the new ships rather than the actual crews themselves.
-And so our new configurations will then revolve around the Aeris carriers and Dauntless battleships. Then the Hamas and Frunze-class battleships can be added on. I don’t want to get rid of all our Kreml carriers. I still see a role for them.
-We may not have too. As well, we can perhaps look into either constructing more Aeris carriers or a new design. After all, a more agile fleet is what we want here. Still, if we reduce our Kreml carrier numbers, then they would be cast in a more ‘rapid response’ role rather than our heavy hitting Aeris carriers. Ultimately they can be phased out.
-Agreed. So, if we reduce our projection fleets down to 4…
There was a collective gasp. Sure the High Admiral must be mad. Detecting the shock, the High Admiral boomed.
-We have to take drastic measure to integrate the fleets. Four projection fleets along with twelve hunter/killer fleets and 50 guardian fleets certainly can defend our lands. Besides, there are few avenues of attack, considering our geography. We are relatively safe since North Germania lies to our west and Dukratus to our south. And any attacker would have to come past them first. Not to mention the newly laid SOSUS-style net. And I don’t believe that any attacker will be coming across the North Sea anytime soon. If they do, it will be in the manner that Dozle did. Our costal defenses are more than up to the task of defending against a North Sea attack. Besides, they won’t be using ships, but most likely drop ships or other manner of aircraft. The sooner we make the cuts now, the easier it will be to bring in the new ships. How is the current training going on now?
-Well, lately we’ve been concentrating more on battleships as per your orders. Assuming the rest of the cruiser, destroyer, frigate ratios remain the same and with our current recruitment levels…[more tapping]…let’s see, about 35000 personnel per 100 million level…105 000…usual ratios…
-No. Forget the usual ratios. How many battleships can we man with what we have in the pipeline now?
-Err…roughly? About…9 Dauntless-class. I’m extrapolating here from the Soyuz III. The Dauntless crews are a bit smaller. The Hamas and Frunze are comparable in size. I’m assuming here that the crews from the Soyuz III transfer to the Hamas class. So we can man 6 Hamas class with crew transfer and 9 Dauntless in the pipe within, say about 6-12 months. As well, the Aeris carriers are about twice as much as our carriers in regards to manpower. So…that roughly works out to about 3 Aeris being manned within a year with about 2 more after that, assuming all the Kremls are phased out. That leaves 3 more Dauntless class.
-We have to re-evaluate our long-term training regimes and fleet configurations. We can integrate the ships but, frankly, it is quite a lot to absorb.
-Training the reserve/militia may be able to take on the rest of the ships. That is, as we discussed earlier, some existing crews now could probably be retrained for the remainder of the ships and the upcoming Frunze class without sacrificing the current ratios of destroyers, cruisers, and frigates.
-I trust that all of you can rise to the challenge. I want those new ships in service as soon as possible without too much sacrifice in regards to readiness. I’d rather have a well-manned destroyer than an ineptly-run carrier.
-As you command, High Admiral.
The walruses filed out, leaving the High Admiral alone in his thoughts. Soon, he sketched out something on a bit of paper...