NationStates Jolt Archive

As some of you might, or might not, know, Klonor is partly Elf populated. It started back in August of '03 when some n00b (yes, I know I was one, too) started a "Kill all the Elves!" thing (they were quite common for a while) and threatened world wide Elven extermination. I, having just gone space with a population of something like 50 million (I think) and four empty solar systems that I needed to fill, offered to take the Elves of his hands (so did a bunch of other nations). I gave them a planet in the Epsilon Pegasi system and everything has been happy since then.

Now I am faced with a problem: I have no idea what to do with them. In the past I've had Epsilon Pegasi fall into a Human/Elven Civil War, had some Elves steal a ship and try to go back and eliminate that original "Kill all the Elves!" nation (I think he'd been deleted already), and that's pretty much it. I have no idea how Elves should or do act, their culture is a mystery to me. All I know is they have point ears and live a long time.

Any ideas for an RP that I could do involving them as Elves, and not merely as Klonorians?

Interesting, perhaps a dissent movement, The elves seeking to return to their ancestral homelands, not just this nation that threw them out, but the more hardcore elven nations like Thelas and Menelmacar?

Nah, that's what that Elven/Human Civil War was about. Well, it was actually that they wanted Klonor to go and conquer all their ancestral homelands so they could move back, but it's close enough.

Mm hm, well, are you looking for a large scale or small scale RP?

I'm just for an RP, I don't really care if its big or small

Well, there's always the archaeology way out, have your elves find somekind of old elven habitations that prove that once long ago elves did indeed live in Klonor, and for that reason you can become a more stable and peaceful country, or they might find some technology from an ancient alien raceallowing you to do something cool

Interesting, perhaps a dissent movement, The elves seeking to return to their ancestral homelands, not just this nation that threw them out, but the more hardcore elven nations like Thelas and Menelmacar?

Chances are that they are *not* Tolkienite Elves.
Thus, you probably shouldn't treat them as such.

For all intensive purposes, they may be Gygaxian Elves.
There's very little research concerning how Cross-Genre Elves interact with each other.

Considering the snobbish and arrogant behavior that most elves subconsciously exude, I doubt it'd be a well-mannered affair. Their superior attitudes towards everything would tend to clash, and it'd most likely end in an uproarious War of Elven Ascension to decide who's the most Elven Elf of the Elves.

It's really up to you to decide *what species* of Elf you're carrying. Then you can see what you can do. Or, you can just make up your own brand and be creative. Make up your own rules, abolish immortality and break free from Tolkien's lame mold. Give them more pathos and less logos. Teach them humanity.

It's really all up in the air.

Have a crazy elf assassin try to kill your leader, yet fail horribily and bring on massive reprisals. Eventually you can forcibily eject all the Elves. Thats what I did, though no one except The C'tan noticed the thread, and that was only towards the end. I suppose its all for the best though, since Skeelzania would of been glassed by Menelemcar if she found out.

Any other ideas?

How about, in an outlying world some Humans uncover a weapon/item/temple/thingy with either Elven origins or Elves as guardians/watchers or such. The type of item that could destroy the planet/system/galazxy/universe/etc!

So the Elves have to step in and strike to stop it falling into the wrong or unknowing hands, which can either kick off something large or something small.

High Orcs, for once can you drop the condeseding tone, if you don't mean it, it really comes across that way...

Really though.... how about just the life of an elf in your nation?

Or maybe even try having elves take over your nation to institute a racialy segregated government....

You could also try having an increase in anti-elf sentiment, resulting in a string of rapes and murders, that get other elven nations to send investigators, and then you could RP the investigations, including having one nation (Thelas *hint hint*) plot to bring down the Klonor government so that a puppet government could be introduced.

Jitano, thanks for mentioning me by the way.

The "Elf Life" thing wouldn't work, they've lived in Klonor for more than 200 years and are pretty much completely absorbed into the lifestyle. Still a genetically different species, but not many cultural differences (Hence why I'm having so much trouble thinking up an Elf RP). But it does give me an idea for a different RP.

The rising anti-Elf hatred thing has possibilites, but might be hard to pull off. Ever since that Elf/Human Civil War I mentioned the two sides in Epsilon Pegasi have pretty much lived in abject terror. Not any remaining hatred (neither side won) but they're both terrified of a recurrance. I don't think it was the war itself, but rather that the Civil War paved the way for Taka, Vernii, and Valinon to move in and annex the system with zero resistance. Then Epsilon Pegasi became Taka's home system and a whole new set of problems came up. It cost me a freaking forturne to buy it back from him.

Have something large and heavy crash into the planet and evacuate the elves or such. Or maybe just leave them there and roleplay a post-apocalyptic elven society.

Edit: Unless, of course, you're looking for an RP that could only be done with elves. But your elves sound pretty much like humans with pointy ears and a long life, so hey, mass random death is always a fun subject.

The "Elf Life" thing wouldn't work, they've lived in Klonor for more than 200 years and are pretty much completely absorbed into the lifestyle. Still a genetically different species, but not many cultural differences (Hence why I'm having so much trouble thinking up an Elf RP). But it does give me an idea for a different RP.

Perhaps if there was an elf-supremacist group (kinda like an elf KKK), you could do more with elf culture. This would work well with the typical elf's personality. They tend to dislike humans or other lesser species, easily leading to elvin racists.

As for general info about elves, I can help. About 10% of my population are elves, including most of my RP characters. Akatani elves tend to have a fair degree of skill in the arcane arts (magicks, psychic powers). They are usually about 6 inches taller than a human and move in a very graceful way. They often have very bright (sometimes glowing) eyes, and unusual hair color.

If you want elf history, look to a nation with more experience with Tolkienite elves, I really don't know much about it.

I have to agree with High Orcs to a point.

There are many kinds of elves from many different books, movies, series, RPGs, games, etc. etc. You could take your basic mold from any of them.

Regardless of the source, it seems as if all elves have one thing other then pointy ears in common, attitude.

Every mention of elves I have ever come across has shown them to feel superior. I mean hey, they live longer, don't get sick easy, generally have a natural magic talent, are fair in appearance, etc. etc. etc. Why shouldn't it get to their heads? This doesn't mean they don't like humans (or EIs or aliens or whathaveyou), just that they feel superior.

That superior attitude would likely get them caught up in powergames.

I find it likely that elves would seek positions of power within your nation. What better person then an elf to command an army, run a company, or govern a nation? I mean, they are obviously superior! Or at least they think so.

An internal power struggle for your nation or some of it's major public/private entities could lead to a number of spinoff RPs that could be open for anyone. They don't even need to be violent.

I have to agree with High Orcs to a point.

WHOO! Back-up!

See? I'm not just blowing smoke up your asses.

My 8 years of roleplaying games (table-top ones) have actually taught me a thing or two!

I think the reason that there are more Tolkienaic elven nations than, say, D&D ones is because most post-Tolkien elves tend to be either shallow, one-dimensional copies of Tolkienaic elves, or taken from the Irish Sidhe, who are rather crazy and not all that easy to RP with, particularly given the fact that you can kill them by tossing nails at them.

Having said that, I think there's much more room for elven nations in the Tolkienaic mythos; most of them seem to be pretty standard. One needs to think about the fact that the elves are supposed to have faded from the world millenia ago, and that they breed much slower than humans; how does an elven nation solve these problems? There's room for RP there, and solutions which the major elven nations don't seem to have considered.

However, none of this much helps Klonor, who seems to have an elven population fairly well integrated with his human majority, which kind of eliminates most culture clash scenarios, at least on the human side of things; two hundred years isn't all that long to an elf.

However, none of this much helps Klonor, who seems to have an elven population fairly well integrated with his human majority, which kind of eliminates most culture clash scenarios, at least on the human side of things; two hundred years isn't all that long to an elf.

But time is relative. Even Aragorn was in his 80's when he stormed the Gates of Mordor. The orbital revolution of MIddle Earth was extremely short.

OOC: That whole, having long life due to being descended from the Numenorians and other humans tending to be dead by their eighties slipped over your head then?

OOC: Nobody ever accused High Orcs of being intelligent.

Anyway, Klonor, there have been a lot of really great ideas in this thread, and I'd be happy to 'consult' for you on Elves once you decide on a basic plotline.

I like species-threatening virus stories. It could be natural, or man-made as part of a bigger plot...

So many RP's, so little time. Well, I actually have lots of time, but that's beside the point.

I think I'm gonna go with a little blending, I see quite a few great ideas here. I'll post a link here once it's made and you guys & gals can view (or participate) if you want to.

And keep the ideas coming!

I think the reason that there are more Tolkienaic elven nations than, say, D&D ones is because most post-Tolkien elves tend to be either shallow, one-dimensional copies of Tolkienaic elves, or taken from the Irish Sidhe, who are rather crazy and not all that easy to RP with, particularly given the fact that you can kill them by tossing nails at them.

Having said that, I think there's much more room for elven nations in the Tolkienaic mythos; most of them seem to be pretty standard. One needs to think about the fact that the elves are supposed to have faded from the world millenia ago, and that they breed much slower than humans; how does an elven nation solve these problems? There's room for RP there, and solutions which the major elven nations don't seem to have considered.

However, none of this much helps Klonor, who seems to have an elven population fairly well integrated with his human majority, which kind of eliminates most culture clash scenarios, at least on the human side of things; two hundred years isn't all that long to an elf.

Indeed 200 Years for many races of elf is easily within the lifespan of the Middleaged Elves. To be honest the reason that Tolkien Elves are the most popular here is I think simply because they have a set place these day, Since Siri was the first, and then we got Melkor, theres a place for them to slip into NS right away.

Other Elves can be left looking for a place...