NationStates Jolt Archive

Are you tired of tiny nations trying to n00k u-al1? Are you tired of wars that seem to have devolved into a WW1, with massive fleets of super-dreadnoughts somehow appearing halfway around the world and destroying entire navies and millions of men being sent to their death in broad, vague attacks? Are you tired of wars being decided by which nation is larger? Are you tired of being accused of Godmodding for using tactics and being creative?
If you answered "yes" to any of these, and are a good RPer, you could find your place in the TGC. (Tactical gaming community)
The first phase, is finding a few reputable RPers to help organize it. If you are interested, let me know.

Very interested, oh and I am modern tech.

Could I become involved in creating a future-tech version of this faction?

I'm game.

My intrest be noted.

Sounds like a good idea.

I am glad to see good interest. This will be the planing thread. This will be open to all tech levels. (Just state which one when you apply) I have seen all of you RP so far, so this looks like a good group to start with.
Our first goal, is to devise some testing scenarios to run new applicants through. These would be artificial incidents in which the applicants will RP a reply to. These applicants are then graded and we decide if they make it or not. If anyone wishes to submit a scenario, that would be great.

OOC:I'm interested. I'm not reallly a reputable RPer though... Sounds like an excellent idea though. I always wonder how someone can send a "uber" 1 Million Man army in a matter of well minutes. Then continue to attack the minute they arrive.

Oh and I'm modern

I am glad to see good interest. This will be the planing thread. This will be open to all tech levels. (Just state which one when you apply) I have seen all of you RP so far, so this looks like a good group to start with.
Our first goal, is to devise some testing scenarios to run new applicants through. These would be artificial incidents in which the applicants will RP a reply to. These applicants are then graded and we decide if they make it or not. If anyone wishes to submit a scenario, that would be great.

Well, we will probably need multiple scenarios. My suggestion would be a small group senario ie: Spec-Ops/Spy, a naval battle, and a land battle, which will require very distinct troop movements and positions. Maybe an air battle, but that is not so clear, if you know what I mean. So those are my suggestions. I am personally a Spec-Ops/Spy guy.

I am glad to see good interest. This will be the planing thread. This will be open to all tech levels. (Just state which one when you apply) I have seen all of you RP so far, so this looks like a good group to start with.
Our first goal, is to devise some testing scenarios to run new applicants through. These would be artificial incidents in which the applicants will RP a reply to. These applicants are then graded and we decide if they make it or not. If anyone wishes to submit a scenario, that would be great.

why not just have people sumbit work. It is easy to write, the true test of an RPer is the abilty to feed off what others have wrote.

why not just have people sumbit work. It is easy to write, the true test of an RPer is the abilty to feed off what others have wrote.

That is an excellent idea. Because that way, a flaw in the scenario could not mess anyone up.

I'm interested, as much as I love WWI tactics. They're so beautifully simple.

That is an excellent idea. Because that way, a flaw in the scenario could not mess anyone up.

we form a panel, the panel then would review all applications. the panel could even RP with the applicant

I'm interested, as much as I love WWI tactics. They're so beautifully simple.

Bah ignore him! GE is a very good RPer.

i'm interested. though i will warn, i'm only on maybe once or twice a day.

You know you are n00b when you have a smilie in your signature.

:) :mad: :headbang: :rolleyes: :sniper: :cool: :mp5: :p :gundge:

You know you are n00b when you have a smilie in your signature.

:) :mad: :headbang: :rolleyes: :sniper: :cool: :mp5: :p :gundge:

Actually, it's pretty clever. You know: 'bite the bullet.'

I wish to enter, preferably a land battle as my trial. It's about time we had some decent fighting. Everything's all "Who can hit who with a bigger hammer?"

I'm interested even though my rp record isn't the greatest if you want i can submit a piece of work to you

Actually, it's pretty clever. You know: 'bite the bullet.'

I get the intended meaning. But smilies give any RPer a bad reputation.

Well, my view is this: It's a good idea, but it can't be an real, IC alliance, but would have to be an OOC group that planned good IC battles. If it was IC, it would be attack by numberwankers, etc., and messed up. Also, being IC would mess up other alliances. I would be interested if this was set up as such.

I never use Smillies in a RP, it well just looks stupid.

Well, my view is this: It's a good idea, but it can't be an real, IC alliance, but would have to be an OOC group that planned good IC battles. If it was IC, it would be attack by numberwankers, etc., and messed up. Also, being IC would mess up other alliances. I would be interested if this was set up as such.

I agree it wood have to be stricktly ooc

I like the signature, but it is a tad cliche. It flavors up the cliche though, which is good.

I'm very interested in this, it always annoys me how logistics get left out of the equation. How can an army rampage through a country with no gas, food, water, or ammunition? I think it would be big step forward in RP'ing.

I agree it wood have to be stricktly ooc

Amd harv teh memonum zpejjin' rekiremants.

Amd harv teh memonum zpejjin' rekiremants.

sorry if I don't take the time to spell check all my post, like some people. all my RP post are written in word. as for little post like this I could fucking careless about typo's

JJR's just upset 'cause he's a numberwanker and feels threatened :-P

Naw, I'm kiddin'.

I'm interested, but I think I need to learn a lot.

Gronde, I consider myself an excellent roleplayer and generally have a good reputation and standing in the future tech community - at least among ESUS members and a few others. I'd consider playing within a future tech faction. Btw, this is good idea on your part.

Well, my view is this: It's a good idea, but it can't be an real, IC alliance, but would have to be an OOC group that planned good IC battles. If it was IC, it would be attack by numberwankers, etc., and messed up. Also, being IC would mess up other alliances. I would be interested if this was set up as such.

This is not an ic alliance. This is an alternate gaming community. Chances are, most other alliances wont even exist here, not for a while at least. It's a fresh start, in a sense.

Sign me up!

I'm interested. I haven't done much on jolt, but as a reference take a look here: http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=727 It's a fairly long battalion-scale RP.

Ok, Peace and terror, your in. I would love it if you would help me organize this. I am starting a new thread, for signup, application submition, and registration. This will also contain a roster. Sort of like an RPing guild. Depending on how well you score, will determine your "rank". If you score low, do not worry, I will be starting a training class, once you pass that, you can try to get accepted again. I wont go into more details just yet.

Go here to try out: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6957995

[OOC: What's the ideological bent of this? Fascists? Democracies?

One man's numberwank could be another man's explanation post of how much force is in a theatre.

I would like more information before I make any decisions but I am intrigued.]

[OOC: What's the ideological bent of this? Fascists? Democracies?

One man's numberwank could be another man's explanation post of how much force is in a theatre.

I would like more information before I make any decisions but I am intrigued.]

Listing forces OoCly isn't the number wanking we're worried about, it's the "I have twenty million men and they all shoot their guns at you and your men died!!!"

Listing forces OoCly isn't the number wanking we're worried about, it's the "I have twenty million men and they all shoot their guns at you and your men died!!!" Ok. I usually say something like "I'm sending the Third and Fourth fleet" then I give detailed compositions of the fleet (classes of ships sent, numbers of aircraft each carrier holds, etc). It seems that some people even call *that* "numberwanking."

What you describe sounds like simple Godmodding.

Listing forces OoCly isn't the number wanking we're worried about, it's the "I have twenty million men and they all shoot their guns at you and your men died!!!"
More or less, lol. Also, it is one nation having this huge army that attacks my capital, somehow. We are trying to bring tactics back into the game. This is the thread that we define it as well.

Yeah, I actually had a planning session for a war I was going to be in. It went pretty good, we made a nice plan for defeating a force that both out numbered us and was more advanced technologically. I would have given it a roughly 80% chance of succeeding.

However, the damned tech-wankers had to bring in nanites and nova-bombs which just ruined the RP for me, and I left it.

I would have loved to play the RP with the plan going, and having the opponent have a counter-strategy in store, having to use battlefield tactics and quick-decisions to counter a manuever of the enemy...

But no, they just launch a bomb into the sun and make it go nova.

Bleh.

Every war RP that I have taken part in the outcome had already been decided. We just had to RP how we actually got there, it prevents RP from becoming nothing more then a giant pissing contest.

Hell, I don't see any downside to joining this, so I'm interested. I've also always wondered how I'd "score" on an RP test.

Grounde, some of my RPing can be found here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344859

and here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343222

Hope you like it and if you have any questions, just ask.

I was the one fighting P&T... I'm in if you'll have me.

Are you tired of being accused of Godmodding for using tactics and being creative?

If having Space Marines, Eldar and Necrons mixed all up together is "being creative", I guess you fit the description. Most people who have any knowledge of WH40K would think it to be either godmodding or just blatant rape of the WH40K universe.

If having Space Marines, Eldar and Necrons mixed all up together is "being creative", I guess you fit the description. Most people who have any knowledge of WH40K would think it to be either godmodding or just blatant rape of the WH40K universe.

Ermor, if you like creativity, check the links I gave ealier (under Sskiss) I think (or at least hope) you will enjoy my unique style of RPing. My race is entirely my creation based on my knowledge of evolutionary biology, paleontology and animal behavior.

This seems interesting... since there is the possibility for considering the aspects of war usually discarded in RP wars. But have you ever noticed that almost ALL RL training for war has the basic theme of "You will win, you will kill enemy, none of you will die." Oh, and that smilie of the sniper thing is inherrently wrong. I can't be bothered to explain why now... But the TGC does interest me...

I had the longest post of my life written out, and it was ALL ERASED BECAUSE I WAS THE COMPUTER LOGGED MY FUCKING OUT!!!

So here is what I had saved. Tell me if it is enough.

[OOC - Okay, here is my scenario. This is a land war in modern tech. I will give you some basic background info in this OOC, which I do not expect you to grade... Please. This is between two nations, one is me of course, the other is a made up one called Quivlen. We have comparable size, economies, land area, population, money, technology, etc. Because I do not like the idea of trashing my own region, I will be the one invading. I will be forced to do some numberwanking, like the following: THe two armies will each have 200,000 men and appropriate support, around 600,000 logistics. The reason for my low logistics number is that I am highly mechanized and use computers to replace personnel. I will be using my Heavy Divisions, which consists of the following:

Heavy Infantry Division: 20,000 Infantry; 1,000 M120 Mortars; 50 M109A6 Paladin Howitzers; all mounted in M113A3 Armored Personal Carrier

So obviously, there are 10 Heavy Divisions. I will not use tanks, and air support will be strictly helicopter based. This is so I can get into the heart of the ground battle, and not have a twenty page post describing tank movements too.

So that is all you need, you can infer everything else. Now for the (OOC) IC, if you know what I mean.]

0600 Hours; Skinve Valley; Quivlen Claimed Territory

In the quiet morning, the fog covered the mountain. General Derrick Velherv stood, stretching in the cool dawn air. The man, massively built, stood like a rock, looking up toward the mountain. He tried to make out the pass through the blurrly grey air. Straining his eyes revealed little more however. He thought to himself about that pass. That damn pass. He turned around and walked into his makeshift quarters, where a map lay on an aluminum table. His eyes gropped the map, looking for some minute detail, overlooked in the heat of battle. But the map had not changed in the night. On one side was Grenval, with her north-western border covered in mountains. On the other side, Quivlen, with Skinve Valley in between. Velherv knew that he must drive Quivlen from the valley. But to do that would be nearly impossible. Quivlen occupied both the pass and the mountain slope, and if Velherv cut straight through, the remainder of the Quivlen army could storm the Bafringh Region of Grenval unopposed. To win this war, Velherv had to kill every last Quivlen soldier in this valley.

0800 Hours; Skinve Valley; Quivlen Claimed Territory

Sergent Greg Derwhenick ordered his squadron forward. The men creeped up from behind a line of trees, into the clearing of a small forest. There was a sudden, unnatural movement in the trees to the squadron's right. Privet Mick Johnson opened fire upon the area. The squadron heard a short scream, then the sound was cut off, as if the blood had bubbled up into the throat of the person dying.
As Johnson walked over to the enemy soldier, he realized, that indeed, the blood had. He looked away quickly, closing his eyes, and throwing up his breakfast into a greenish pile upon the dead leaves. Wiping his mouth with his glove, Johnson walked away, pale and badly shaken. After a minute or so, Derwhenick ordered the squadron further up the mountain.

0820 Hours; Skinve Valley; Quivlen Claimed Territory

Private Carlos Ferveneva swallowed the last of cereal slowly, knowing what was to come. He raised himself up from the table, his eyes closed, trying to savor this time, this time before the battle. Ferveneva had never killed a man in his life, but that was destinied to change.
A captain came into the mess hall, barking out orders. Ferveneva heard 2nd Heavy Infantry Divsion, and followed the captain's hand, which was pointed to the east. Ferveneva walked outside, looking east into the rising sun. Squinting in the light, he saw his division, twenty thousand strong, assembling for battle.

General Velherv rode up to the 2nd Heavy Infantry Division in his humvee. He spoke breifly, giving the final order, the order to move out. Ferveneva tugged his glove onto his hand. Now fully suited up, he was ready to die.

They marched for what seemed like hours, every footstep bringing them closer to their death. Ferveneva struggled to keep down his breakfast, which he had tried so hard to savor. Although lasting for hours, the division reached their position in roughly twenty minutes. Their post was behind a low, green roll in the valley, where they were to flank the enemy and round up any survivers.

0910 Hours; Skinve Valley; Quivlen Claimed Territory

General Velherv was ready. He had been in control this entire time. He had choosen the battle ground, he had positioned his troops. The Grenvali Army was in the lead, and they would be victorious. The 1st and 2nd Divisions were to be flanking the sides of the oblong valley, ensuring that Quivlen troops could not invade into Grenval.

I want to cry. I had so much more. I had a division sweep up the mountain and fall to their death, I had the enemy camp surrounded, and I had ten men take out nearly two thousand before dying. And I managed to make it so that I broke through the pass, but the enemy broke through into Grenval. It was beautiful! And it is gone!

If having Space Marines, Eldar and Necrons mixed all up together is "being creative", I guess you fit the description. Most people who have any knowledge of WH40K would think it to be either godmodding or just blatant rape of the WH40K universe.

I can confess to doing that, sort of. I really didn't combine tech, i just like the pictures, and I mearly made the ships capabilities coherant with the pics. Either way, when dealing with a community where your enemies always have supreme uber-tech, it drives even good RPers into godmodding. That's why I decided that an alternate community was the only way to save RPing. This way, all of the numberwanking, godmodding, and uber-teching nations would be removed from the picture. Obviously, we still need to define exacty what all of these things are, but I, and many others, feel that this is a step in the right direction. This will also provide a place to file "complaints" of sorts, where outside parties can review something and detirmine wether it is godmodding or not without that player having to revield his/her entire plan to the enemy. This will also prevent problems.

Also, please, post all submitions in the sign up thread. Here is the link again.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6957995

I can't keep track of them on both threads. Thank you.

Grenval: I read through yours, quite good. However, if you have an example of where you RPed with another person, that would be more accurate.

I've been accused of number wanking forl isting whats in my army in the OOC threads for wars I've been involved in.

I'm very interested in this whole idea, although I feel it might fail due to the fact that a lot of people don't actually understand tactics.

I'm very interested in this, it always annoys me how logistics get left out of the equation. How can an army rampage through a country with no gas, food, water, or ammunition? I think it would be big step forward in RP'ing.

I'm game. Just whacked two huge nations on account of their screw-ups in logistics, and was told "it didn't happen" as a result. Bah - you FUBAR, you suck it up.

Amateurs think in tactics, Generals think in logistics.

Amateurs think in tactics, Generals think in logistics.

Elegantly put. I couldn't have said it better.

Damn you all! you've piqued my curiosity with this!

I'll have to see how it goes!

I am extremely interested (as you could see in the "What Happened To Tactics" thread. I am modern/future tech (Sort of in between....modern weapons....sort of futuristic computers and such). I would be honored to join. Thank you.
-Ybronneb

For members, I will be holding a "stake you claims" type thread, so everyone knows the location of other nations. It will be for modern, but space will come later. (space tech territory is a bit more complicated) I will post the link when it is ready.

For members, I will be holding a "stake you claims" type thread, so everyone knows the location of other nations. It will be for modern, but space will come later. (space tech territory is a bit more complicated) I will post the link when it is ready.

Problem with this would be that the NS "world" is a multiverse, ala Amber. So you can have seventy-five people all claim North America, they're just on different "planes of reality".

Problem with this would be that the NS "world" is a multiverse, ala Amber. So you can have seventy-five people all claim North America, they're just on different "planes of reality".
I know this. The TGC is its own plane of reality, because the number of people involved is smaller. Thus, wars become easier to deal with because maps can be made, and locations of colonies, cities, etc. . .will be known. Lack of maps is one of the main problems with normal NS wars.

I know this. The TGC is its own plane of reality, because the number of people involved is smaller. Thus, wars become easier to deal with because maps can be made, and locations of colonies, cities, etc. . .will be known. Lack of maps is one of the main problems with normal NS wars.

Might I suggest a flexable mapping system? As many of us are in various locations and a complete "globe" would be impossible to maintain convincingly.

Heck, my main colony is about the size of Earth... (first, you suspend disbelief of the strange and whacked...).

However, I would enjoy RPing with the TGC members more often because I wont get the "I lunch 50 bazillion demonkillsuperninjastealth n00ks at j00! i pwn j00!" garbage from them.

I have yet to fight a war...in fact, I may never do so.

BUT if I ever did participate in a war RP, I want it done right...and most of you sound like you know how to "do it right"

I'm in.

The TGC world is separate from the others. You can still have your colonies for other RPs, but keep another version of your nation in the TGC world for TGC RPs. You could still RP with only TGC members in whichever "earth" you are using. But I really want to make a TGC only Earth. Now that I think about it, territory claims in Space tech will be much easier.

I'm interested, as much as I love WWI tactics. They're so beautifully simple.

Hehe. Well done.

So what happens now that we've been accepted?

So what happens now that we've been accepted?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7049232

Go there.