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Current NSWC Related Sporting Links::

Colony Cup 1.1 - RP Thread (Top 8 Qualify for WCQ17) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350728)
Eagle's Cup III (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352262)
Slani Cup 1 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350986)
Melmond Club Invitational 2 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=351420)
Bribery World Cup 1 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352212)
World Cup 16 - RP Thread [WINNER: Eauz] (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342945)
Pre-WC17 Baptism of Fire Cup [WINNER: Eystrck] (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349645)
Cup of Harmony (16) [WINNER: T. Belmore Family] (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349768)
Under 21 World Championships V [WINNER: Rejistania] (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349028)
World Cup | The Discussion Thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=293066)
International Domestic Soccer NewsWires (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288854)




WC17 : Currently Signed Up
1- [1] Eauz
2- [2] Rejistania
3- [3] Bedistan
4- [4] The Eagles Nest
5- [5] Europa Brittania
6- [6] Audioslavia
7- [7] Total n Utter Insanity
8- [8] Kingsford
9- [9] NEWI Cefn Druids
10- [10] Commerce Heights
11- [11] Squornshelous
12- [12] Tanah Burung
13- [14] Iansisle
14- [15] Lovisa
15- [16] Spaam
16- [17] Oglethorpia
17- [18] Svecia
18- [20] Gesamtkuntswerk
19- [21] The Lowland Clans
20- [22] Tadjikistan
21- [23] One Red Dot
22- [24] Cockbill Street
23- [25] Wella
24- [26] Lemmitania
25- [28] Liverpool England
26- [29] The Belmore Family
27- [30] Krytenia
28- [31] Snub Nose 38
29- [32] Giant Zucchini
30- [33] Oaker
31- [34] Turnia
32- [35] Crystilakere
33- [36] Halfassedstates
34- [38] Lykaia
35- [40] Jeruselem
36- [41] The Weegies
37- [42] Melmond
38- [44] NASTIC 2
39- [45] Turori
40- [46] Starblaydia
41- [47] Dance 2 Revolution
42- [48] Raptor Claw
43- [49] Sarzonia
44- [50] Magnus Valerius
45- [53] Dennisov
46- [54] El Cid The Hero
47- [56] Kerla
48- [57] Avenging Altos
49- [58] Haperd
50- [59] The Evil Umpire
51- [61] Spurland
52- [63] The Gulf States
53- [64] Oceaice
54- [65] Ebon Hawk
55- [67] Dead Man
56- [69] Aquiliana
57- [70] Eystrck
58- [71] Northbank
59- [75] Kylaai
60- [77] Slaikau
61- [86] Carthage and Troy
62- [89] Isles of Wohlstand
63- [92] Esth
64- [95] Liechtenistan
65- [96] Qia
66- [102] Adrasuvare
67- [108] Kipto-Mare
68- [116] Omniworld
69- [121] Artoonia
70- [130] Pedriana
71- [130] Pterodactyl
72- [137] Mikele
73- [NR] Big Pimento
74- [NR] Insane Inflation
75- [NR] Kirata
76- [NR] Pure Evil
77- [NR] Ravea
78- [NR] Regia Anglorum
79- [NR] Vorpal Bunnies
80- [NR] Wapahkoneta

81- [14] Vilita
82- [20] Kaze Progressa

Qualifying Information:

--------------There will be 10 Groups of 8 Teams for the 17th World Cup, for a total of 80 teams (Plus the Two hosts). Three teams from each group will advance. Likely, The top 2 will advance and 3rd & 4th will play off, however this is not confirmed. Groups Will be Drawn after the Colony Cup 1.1 Quarter Finals. This date is likely to be in the vicinity of Wednesday, September 8th, with the Cup starting 2-3 Days following the group draw to allow for the completion of Pre-Cup RP's. The Field will be made up of no less than 65 Manually-Signed up nations, 8 Nations qualified through Colony Cup 1.1 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350728), and remaining slots to be filled by a mixture to be decided by common sense and good bribes.

::WC17 Qualifying Schedule::
MD01: 1v5 - 2v6 - 3v7 - 4v8
MD02: 6v1 - 7v2 - 8v3 - 5v4
MD03: 1v7 - 2v8 - 3v5 - 4v6
MD04: 8v1 - 5v2 - 6v3 - 7v4
MD05: 1v2 - 3v4 - 5v6 - 7v8
MD06: 3v1 - 4v2 - 7v5 - 8v6
MD07: 1v4 - 2v3 - 5v8 - 6v7
MD08: 5v1 - 6v2 - 7v3 - 8v4
MD09: 1v6 - 2v7 - 3v8 - 4v5
MD10: 7v1 - 8v2 - 5v3 - 6v4
MD11: 1v8 - 2v5 - 3v6 - 4v7
MD12: 2v1 - 4v3 - 6v5 - 8v7
MD13: 1v3 - 2v4 - 5v7 - 6v8
MD14: 4v1 - 3v2 - 8v5 - 7v6

Guess you guys want these... Matchday 1 TG'd tomorrow


VILITAN REGION
---A
Eauz
Squornshelous
Liverpool England
Dance 2 Revolution

---B
Bedistan

Kingsford
Cockbill Street
Raptor Claw

---C
The Eagles Nest
Spaam
Crystilakere
Turori

---D
Vilita
Total n Utter Insanity
Lemmitania
Kerla
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PROGRESSAN REGION
---E
Europa Brittania
Iansisle
Krytenia
Aquiliana

---F
Audioslavia
NEWI Cefn Druids
The Lowlands Clans
Starblaydia

---G
Rejistania
Svecia
One Red Dot
EL CID THE HERO

---H
Kaze Progressa
Commerce Heights
Melmond
Dennisov

I would wish to sign up please.

I would wish to sign up too sorry i died

Reminder: By Spaam's schedule, the World Cup MUST start Sept 13th.

Sorry to mess everything up, but I no longer wish to take part in the tournament, so you can give my place to somebody else.

Reminder: By Spaam's schedule, the World Cup MUST start Sept 13th.
Shut Up LE

Sorry to mess everything up, but I no longer wish to take part in the tournament, so you can give my place to somebody else.

Doesnt' mess a thing up, just lets someone else get in, very noble of you and you just raised one notch on my "Start to maybe like again one day chart"... Actually, you may have raised two notches. Maybe we'll see you again someday.

WC17 : Currently Signed Up

40- [50] Sarzonia



[OOC: I'm a little confused by the twin rankings. Which one is which? Is the [50] after the CoH? And where did the 40 come in?]

Shut Up LE

((Ah, 'tis like music to mine ears! I could hear those words in that order all day long!

Anyhow, I'm just tagging this to keep track of what's going on in World Cup ...um... world. Don't want to miss the start of the Cup again, like I have so often before. :())

EDIT: Sarzonia, the first number is your 'overall' rank in this World Cup, the second is your world ranking. It's like this: you're ranked 50th, but ten teams which placed higher than you aren't playing/signed up yet, so you get a free +10 (effective) bonus!

Unless, of course, I've drastically misinterpreted this (which is entirely possible, even probable) ;)

((Ah, 'tis like music to mine ears! I could hear those words in that order all day long!

Anyhow, I'm just tagging this to keep track of what's going on in World Cup ...um... world. Don't want to miss the start of the Cup again, like I have so often before. :())

EDIT: Sarzonia, the first number is your 'overall' rank in this World Cup, the second is your world ranking. It's like this: you're ranked 50th, but ten teams which placed higher than you aren't playing/signed up yet, so you get a free +10 (effective) bonus!

Unless, of course, I've drastically misinterpreted this (which is entirely possible, even probable) ;)


Close Ian, it just means that the first number is approximately how your rank compares, so inevitably of the 60ish confirmed teams signed up, you have the 40th best rank, but your rank for scorination is 50th. this is not totally accurate as there are teams that were pending that are now not (The weegies) who are in front of you, so inevitably the first numbers means absolutely nothing and just serves to show how many nations are signed up :)

Doesnt' mess a thing up, just lets someone else get in, very noble of you and you just raised one notch on my "Start to maybe like again one day chart"... Actually, you may have raised two notches. Maybe we'll see you again someday.

Maybe. At the moment I'm going to concentrate on finishing the EPL (and maybe starting on a sequel, which I'm being pestered about doing), and posting solve-it-yourself murder mysteries, which is surprisingly quite difficult, but quite fun.

hmmm Murder Mysteries, interesting.

The Serene Republic of Fallacious Statements hereby submits an application

...Can he be trusted to RP, V?

...Can he be trusted to RP, V?

can YOU be trusted to RP?

*gets out magnifying glass*

How's this, if Fallacious statements has apost count greater than 4 by the time groups are drawn, they are in.

Why not just give them the benefit of the doubt?

(My post count was 2 when i entered my first World Cup.)

Mine was one.

Didn't even read the arguments about whether or not Fallacious Statements can enter/cannot enter. Don't think it's worth the effort.

Let me make one point.

Fallacious States is a puppet.

Of a well known WC participant.

Who wishes to remain unidentified for the moment.

I think signing up for WC2 was my first post...actually maybe my second.

ditto, think a sign-up was my first post, my third post being a second round rp

Didn't even read the arguments about whether or not Fallacious Statements can enter/cannot enter. Don't think it's worth the effort.

Let me make one point.

Fallacious States is a puppet.

Of a well known WC participant.

Who wishes to remain unidentified for the moment.


Sign Ups for puppets are closed, sorry, the Colony Cup is already underway. You may sign up for World Cup 18 when the time comes, but you must identify yourself then.

Cute...hoist, as they say, by my own petard.

Forget it. Just a passing thought.

Cute...hoist, as they say, by my own petard.

Forget it. Just a passing thought.

Four posts, no less ;)

Oh, c'mon, let him in. He seems so nice, and we could take bets on whose puppet he is. Mau Slurp's House of Gambling offers the following odds:

Fallacious Snub Nose 4: 3-2
Fallacious Lemmitania: 4-1
Fallacious and Utter Insanity 5-1
Audio-fellaciou-slavia 8-1
Aquilla 10,000-1

Place yer wagers, gennlemen.

Our fine nation wishes to enter your tournament.

His Royal Majesty James of the house of Beauchampe

Didn't even read the arguments about whether or not Fallacious Statements can enter/cannot enter. Don't think it's worth the effort.

Let me make one point.

Fallacious States is a puppet.

Of a well known WC participant.

Who wishes to remain unidentified for the moment.

According to the WCC rules, one nation isn't allowed to submit more than one puppet. Since this rule cannot be enforced with an anonymous puppet-sign-up, I would recommend you to tell it. Other problem: The hosts did already do a tournament, the ColonyCup, to limit the # of puppets in the World cup. I'd say that these facts are reasons against allowing you to sign up... unfortunately, maybe....

Oh, c'mon, let him in. He seems so nice, and we could take bets on whose puppet he is. Mau Slurp's House of Gambling offers the following odds:

Fallacious Snub Nose 4: 3-2
Fallacious Lemmitania: 4-1
Fallacious and Utter Insanity 5-1
Audio-fellaciou-slavia 8-1
Aquilla 10,000-1

Place yer wagers, gennlemen.

What are the odds on TB? Trying to throw us off the scent? Nah, I thought Snub at first.

Our fine nation wishes to enter your tournament.

His Royal Majesty James of the house of Beauchampe


I will put you on a temporary list for now, the remaining spots will be granted first to nations with past world cup entries, IE: Nikea, Ravenspire, etc... Then if spots are still available when the draw is being made, the Zero-Post wonders will be included in order of signup.

Oh, c'mon, let him in. He seems so nice, and we could take bets on whose puppet he is. Mau Slurp's House of Gambling offers the following odds:

Fallacious Snub Nose 4: 3-2
Fallacious Lemmitania: 4-1
Fallacious and Utter Insanity 5-1
Audio-fellaciou-slavia 8-1
Aquilla 10,000-1

Place yer wagers, gennlemen.

My money's on L-FS-E.

What are the odds on TB? Trying to throw us off the scent? Nah, I thought Snub at first.

Hmm, that would be devious. But there are. Enough incomplete sentence fragments. By FS. To make it possible. But not enough semi-colons, methinks.

Added:
Tanah Fallacio-Burung 10-1
Liverpool Fallacious English Statements 8-1

Apologies then, Fallacious - but there WAS the colony cup you had to sign up for.

EDIT: So it isnt me.

C'est tres interesant, mes amis. Est tres drole aussi. Alors, plus de "semi colons" pour mon ami du canada

:::::::

Hmmmm....French....my bet is on our resident Francophone with many Fallacious Statements....Eauz.

Hmmmm....French....my bet is on our resident Francophone with many Fallacious Statements....Eauz.

Good guess. I'd say so too.

Ah, but would Eauz mis-spell the word intéressant? I think: no.

C'est un ruse!

Nevertheless, added:
Eauz 6-1

Und was denks du wenn ich hadt etwas auf Deutsch geschribben?

wait. German? Rejis? ..... Lovisa?

I was thinking Snub at first, but now I'm not quite as sure...

What are Mau Slurp's odds on Fallacious Melmond or Fallacious Kingsford?

LE: I seriously doubt it's Rejis, though I suppose it's not impossible. And no offense to Lovisa (non-native speaker; perfectly understandable), but the English was a bit too good to be him/her.

geschribben? I'm not sure, but isn't that geschrieben?

And isn't Margaret a notorious allemandophile?

The odds narrow.

Bedi's choices are good too, though. And let's add the Fallaciothorpia Wonderstatements.

Mau Slurp's new odds:

Fallacious Snub Nose 38: 5-4
Melmondic Statements: 4-1
Fallacious Lemmitania: 4-1
Fallacious and Utter Insanity: 5-1
Fallacious Kingsford: 5-1
Fallacious Oglethorpia: 6-1
Audio-fellaciou-slavia: 8-1
Liverpool Fallacious English Statements: 8-1
Tanah Fallacio-Burung: 10-1
Fallacious Lovisa: 12-1
Fallaciouslani Rejistania: 15-1
Aquilla: 10,000-1

Odds that Vilita will hit me with a fish for spamming up the thread: EVEN.

plus, Eauz isn't French Canadian. He just learned the language.

Besides, Bedi, you should know better that I would've put it in Spanish before French or German of all languages.

/me bets it's Stalliciousaydia, or Kaze Falliciousia, those gits. Darn British and their inferiority complex.

What about the fallacious Belmorians?

Fallacious Cockbill Streetians?

I went the same way as Beddy, looked like Kingsford...maybe Spaam?

and I think Lovisa is Polish.

Und was denks du wenn ich hadt etwas auf Deutsch geschribben?
Fallacious Abysmalistan!

Sorry, I would be ashamed to mess up my native tongue like that! Even before the morning coffee my german is way better!

Besides, Bedi, you should know better that I would've put it in Spanish before French or German of all languages.

Actually, I think you wouldn't have put it in Spanish first, because it would've probably been a dead giveaway. :P

hehe this is funny.

well, what I know, I don't believe I have a second account with NationStates. I find it hard sometimes to even log into my account, let along others...

Wait, hold on.

It's fallicious statements, so the screwups are on purpose. So that means, for somebody to purposefully screw up, it'd have to be

Commerce Fallicious Heights


Ahaha, I found you out

Do we actually want to work it out, or just keep randomly guessing? Must be an IRCer.

Fallacious Lemmitania: 4-1

Nein. It's probably the Lunatic Goofballs back from the dead.

LG died? I thought he just moved to the General Forum.

I have no idea why I'm still in the Top 50 ... :eek: :p

Pilot to Bombadier. Pilot to Bombadier. Approaching target - stand by.

Bombadier to Pilot - bomb bay doors open. Standing by.

Pilot to Bombadier. Target area in sight.

Bombadier to Pilot. Target spotted. 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - leaftlets away.

"Just a little note to say how much fun it is being a shadowy figure! I'll keep dropping hints, and mis-spelling things, until WC17 starts. Or, maybe longer."

:)

Is it too late to sign up?

Is it too late to sign up?

Nope, You're in.

Nope, You're in.
Objection, your honor.

On what grounds?

The witness was let in without any undue harrassment.

Can you rephrase, counselor?

They picked on me, but not Slaikau.

Over-ruled.

On what grounds, your honor?

Because your an idiot.

ooc - Good luck in WC17 Slaikau. (Just joking, not trying to get Slaikau into trouble).

*puts twenty quid on it being Master Belmore*

Not sure if it's too late, or if I don't have enough posts as of yet, but the Esteemed Commonwealth of Big Pimento would like to send a delegation to the World Cup.

Not sure if it's too late, or if I don't have enough posts as of yet, but the Esteemed Commonwealth of Big Pimento would like to send a delegation to the World Cup.

We would prefer to admit nations that have been around NS for more than a week at this point, but if none signup by tomorrow check back to see if you are included in the group draw.

Not much I guess I can do in that case. Would a sample RP perhaps better my odds of getting in?

I just took a quick look at the first post, where the teams are listed. It says there are still 4 Open Slots, 1 Colony Cup P/O, and 2 Host Selection Entries. I think that means there are 7 spots still unfilled out of 80. But Big Pimento can't play?

:headbang:

Indeed. I think we're getting to the point where this officious-style admittance is intimidating any newbies who want to get in. Come on, when was the last time we had trouble filling a WC?

Not much I guess I can do in that case. Would a sample RP perhaps better my odds of getting in?

Yes, It would. RP a 4-2 Loss at the hands of Turori, Roster available in the colony cup thread :P

I just took a quick look at the first post, where the teams are listed. It says there are still 4 Open Slots, 1 Colony Cup P/O, and 2 Host Selection Entries. I think that means there are 7 spots still unfilled out of 80. But Big Pimento can't play?



4 Open slots means exactly that, 4 Open Slots, where you find 7 I do not know. Big Pimento would have been openly accepted If it were not for Fallacious Statements coming in and throwing a cloud over whether a newly created nation is actually a new nation or not. So because of this, I feel I am within my right to question them before confirming their entry...

Indeed. I think we're getting to the point where this officious-style admittance is intimidating any newbies who want to get in. Come on, when was the last time we had trouble filling a WC?

I think an easily-decipherable information post is needed each time there's a sign-up thread, as when I signed up for my debut WC15 I didn't realise about the BoF or similar tournaments and their rules/connections with the WC.

I think an easily-decipherable information post is needed each time there's a sign-up thread, as when I signed up for my debut WC15 I didn't realise about the BoF or similar tournaments and their rules/connections with the WC.

I didn't run the signup thread but I linked to every known related resource up in the top of this one :)

I didn't run the signup thread but I linked to every known related resource up in the top of this one :)

That you have, which is good. Though TnUI's sign-up wasn't exactly, uh, user-friendly.

Slaikau has a join date of April 2004.

And 4 posts.

Here they all are:

1. April 27th, in the Sign-Up thread for WCXV: "Is there room enough for us?"

2. June 4th, in the Sign-Up thread for WC16"
"NATION NAME: Kaze Progressa
AM I A PUPPET?:Slaikau
IF SO, WHO OF?: N/A
AM I MAKING A BID TO HOST THIS CUP?: No
IF SO, WHO WITH?: N/A"

3. August 8th, in a thread selling a nation to the highest bidder: "I Shall Pay $9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,021.10 More than any other bidder."

4. Today, in this thread: "Is it too late to sign up?"

How is that better than Big Pimento?

If you don't want Fallacious Statements because I won't identify myself - tough - I won't, and if that means I can't play, then I can't play.

But don't use me as an excuse for discriminating between people who want to play when you've got spots left.

4 Open slots means exactly that, 4 Open Slots, where you find 7 I do not know. Big Pimento would have been openly accepted If it were not for Fallacious Statements coming in and throwing a cloud over whether a newly created nation is actually a new nation or not. So because of this, I feel I am within my right to question them before confirming their entry...
What does "Host Selection Entry" mean?

What does "(Colony Cup P/O)" mean?

I will put you on a temporary list for now, the remaining spots will be granted first to nations with past world cup entries, IE: Nikea, Ravenspire, etc... Then if spots are still available when the draw is being made, the Zero-Post wonders will be included in order of signup.

The Minister of Sport enquires does this mean we are in or we are in if previous entrants dont enter?

PS how do we compete, what are the rules etc?

If you don't want Fallacious Statements because I won't identify myself - tough - I won't, and if that means I can't play, then I can't play.This game you've been playing has gotten extremely tiresome. I wouldn't be surprised if rules weren't put in place to tighten restrictions on puppets playing because of this stunt.

If you don't identify yourself, you don't DESERVE to play.

This game you've been playing has gotten extremely tiresome. I wouldn't be surprised if rules weren't put in place to tighten restrictions on puppets playing because of this stunt.

If you don't identify yourself, you don't DESERVE to play.Originally, I just decided I wanted to play as a brand new nation, without the advantage of having been in ump-teen cups. Just a fresh start to see how it went. We've had plenty of "newbies" turn out to be puppets in the past. Then, I got a little ticked-off when I was told I wasn't qualified to play. Never mind the reason, because I don't accept any reason except "FULL" - and that ain't the case. Decided to play along with TB's (excuse me "Mau Slurp's") game.

Now, I'm a bit fed up with the whole "exclusive club" thing.

Don't DESERVE to play? What crap.

Don't WANT to play if that's how it is now.

Bye.

Is this the right place to post pre-tournament RPs? I.e. team roster, team uniforms, etc?

Would whom ever is in charge of the event (Villita??) please send me a telegram to remind me before the tournament begins?

Slaikau has a join date of April 2004.

And 4 posts.


How is that better than Big Pimento?


Because We know that Slaikau was not created Today, or yesterday by a team already entered because of your little stunt.(Not saying that I dislike the stunt, I think it's fun) And we can figure that they will be around for the whole cup if they choose to RP.

What does "Host Selection Entry" Mean?


I put it there in the case that the cup was overbooked, with nations like Spaam/Svecia outside of the "booked" nations, as in WC16. This way, again, the teams that were not created Today would have some sort of security over the mass of nations that exist for one week, sign up, and then die.

What Does "Colony Cup P/O" Mean?


If you ARE a member of NSWC already, and cannot figure this out, either by reading this thread, or the Colony Cup link at the top of the thread, OR by clicking the text that you just copied, then I'm afraid I can't help you :) Alright it's a joke, as for the answer, It means the Winner of the HypercapitaliZm v. Insane Inflation match that will take place before Group Draw.


As for Sarzonia's Comments, please note that they are Sarzonias and not mine, or anyone elses specifically. I would have loved to have had you in the Colony Cup, but I stated in our Bid that signups would be closed once World Cup 16 ended. Since there were a few spots, I figured I could open a general thread, this one, but stated that just by responding would not guarentee that you get in, that it would be selective, and thats the way it is. As for puppets, I can't go back and start the Cup over just because a new one has signed up. This is the reason I stated in my bid that Signups would be settled at the end of World Cup 16. There were originally Two open spots, but With SN38's retirement and Braz & a couple others Ceasing, A few more opened up. In past world Cups, these nations were just given a penalty after qualifying for ceasing, I wanted to keep track of them and let existing nations in, but again, selectively as signups were already closed.

I welcome you to signup for the next Colony Cup as It is apparent you would be a great contributor.

Is this the right place to post pre-tournament RPs? I.e. team roster, team uniforms, etc?

Would whom ever is in charge of the event (Villita??) please send me a telegram to remind me before the tournament begins?

C&T, this is not the correct place, the thread will be open tomorrow night and you will receive a telegram. This is just On-Topic Discussion

Starblaydia's Totally Unofficial Guide to NationStates World Cup Football and associated matters
For all players, particularly new and potential Nations.

The NSWC is a tournament for any NS nation who signs up. This World Cup is about to Start its 17th competition, and there are, at the time of writing, four places still available for 'main' nations (not puppets) who want them.

Every team is given a rank based on their performances in previous Cups, and the starting rank is 200 (the Current 'best team in the world' is Eauz, with a rank of 1)

Scores are generated using either a Java program called Leagion or through various or MS Excel sheet 'scorinators' which use random numbers, modified by rank, RP bonus and just plain luck, to produce the scores.

It is encouraged for Nations to RP - roleplay - their matches, team rosters, players and such. Good RPs will help raise your chance of winning (especially in the Baptism of Fire and Colony Cup). Please note: A lot of RPs does not guarantee goals or wins, but your chances are improved or this happening

e.g. Two debutant, Rank 200, nations play each other. One has RP'd a few times, the other has not. Theoretically the RPing nation should have the better chance of victory. That's in theory, at least.

RPs can be Team Roster announcements, fan comments, press conferences, media stories, anything about the game, as long as you've kept to the score as posted or TGd to you by the host/scorer.


NSWC Tournaments:

The World Cup: This is the big one, to decide the World Champions. The premier NS sporting event. This consists, usually, of Group Qualifying matches and the finals stage. Puppet Nations (a 'second' nation owned by a nation) can enter, but must qualify through the Colony Cup (see below)
Current Champion: Eauz

The Under-21 World Cup
A sub-competition for 'main' nations where all players are Under the age of 21 (clever, ain't it?), which helps to boost your World Cup ranking.
Current Champion: Rejistania

The Cup of Harmony
An Invitational Tournament for Nations that don't make it through the Qualifying rounds of the World Cup, but have demonstrated a high degree of interest in the competition through many or quality RPs.
Current Champion: The Belmore Familiy

The Baptism of Fire
A pre-World Cup tournament specifically for debutant Nations, in which RPing allows them to increase their ranking bonus (quite heavily) to promote RPing in the World Cup.
Current Champion: Estryck

The Colony Cup
A tournament specifically for 'puppet' Nations, which is held before the World Cup proper, which decides which Puppet Nations get through to the World Cup. This prevents one nation signing up their main nation and all their puppets to give them a better chance of winning something.
Current Champion: Being decided at the moment

The Minister of Sport enquires does this mean we are in or we are in if previous entrants dont enter?

PS how do we compete, what are the rules etc?

It means that you are in unless Nikea, Arriddia, Ravenspire, Snub Nose 38 and Brazillico sign back up. (Not Inclusive, just providing an example)

p.s. - I hope Starblaydia's above post helps a little.

Update:

I have finally gotten a response from the inactive Nation of "Munsen" who has indicated that they do not wish to participate in the Cup. Therefore there is another opening. This moves the Number of Open Spots to Five. It is likely with the current signup rate, that 3 of these will be granted to the Colony Cup Placement Match Winners, bringing the total number of puppets from 8 to 11. These would leave 2 spots to be divvied up between Big Pimento and any other new signups.

:fluffle:

Which roughly translates as "Sorry - even though i still disagree with you - sorry to have caused any disruption."

But, bye, never the less

NSWC Tournaments:
The World Cup:
The Under-21 World Cup
The Cup of Harmony
The Baptism of Fire
The Colony Cup


entry rules = blah blah blah

No offence folks but this is all getting wayyyyy to complex. 5 different comps that affect the ranks - ranks that last for 3 or 4 cups (cumlative!) folk being refused entry because they aren't known!

personaly i feel that the cup is becoming more and more daft and less the cup of old that attracted my attention in the first place. i understand that some of you put a heck of a lot of effort into the rp's, and they are good, but some of us just dont have the time to go in depth with 5 or 6 teams - and unless you have the time to do that there is no chance of getting far. The mystery is gone. Forget the ranking system, go back to the old ways and lets all rely on Margaret, the voodoo dice or whatever it may be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because We know that Slaikau was not created Today, or yesterday by a team already entered because of your little stunt.(Not saying that I dislike the stunt, I think it's fun) And we can figure that they will be around for the whole cup if they choose to RP.

I think you're looking at that the wrong way. A person who signed up who only had 4 posts since April is not likely to be a consistent poster on the forums, and therefore, not a consistent RPer.

Again, I stand by what I said. We're getting too rules-obsessed and too officious, and it's scaring newbies away.

And deep down, don't we all enjoy a non-RPing newbie to roll over and trounce? ;)

<snip> folk being refused entry because they aren't known!

Whoever Fallacious Statements is has caused some unnecessary mis-trust issues with the under-a-week-old nations who are signing up.

personaly i feel that the cup is becoming more and more daft and less the cup of old that attracted my attention in the first place. i understand that some of you put a heck of a lot of effort into the rp's, and they are good, but some of us just dont have the time to go in depth with 5 or 6 teams - and unless you have the time to do that there is no chance of getting far.

The World Cup, The Under-21 World Cup, The Cup of Harmony, The Baptism of Fire and The Colony Cup (5 competitions) are not all happening at the same time. If you're not a debutant nation, you're down to (4), if you dont enter puppets for football, that's (3). After World Cup Qualification you're either in the World Cup Finals, so discount the Cup of Harmony (2) or your RPs have got you into the CoH, but you're not in the World Cup (2). Even then you don't *have* to have an Under-21 Team. Which leaves just (1) tournament every 48 days or so.

The mystery is gone. Forget the ranking system, go back to the old ways and lets all rely on Margaret, the voodoo dice or whatever it may be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without ranks, for instance, the oldest of nations with the greatest footballing 'history' who's won X-amount of competitions would then fall to a day-old nation. I, for one, wouldn't bother with a Cup like that, as I like to think any effort I put in is bringing me some results.

I wonder what odds Mau Slurp is giving now? :p

(opps - forgot to mis-spell sumthing)

I think you're looking at that the wrong way. A person who signed up who only had 4 posts since April is not likely to be a consistent poster on the forums, and therefore, not a consistent RPer.
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And deep down, don't we all enjoy a non-RPing newbie to roll over and trounce? ;)

First of All, Is that a contridiction or am I seeing something wrong? You're saying I'm wrong to let Slaikau in, but that you'd love playing someone like him?


<snip>Nations being refused entry...


Second of All, Did you, or halfassed states for that matter, read everything I wrote? Or did you simply look at the part that directly contained your name? I explained very detailed how signups closed a long time ago and that these openings are courtesy of Nations Ceasing to exist, blah blah blah, I really dont think I should have to say it again after I just did...

Well, firstly that last part was written half-jokingly, and secondly I was writing the first part from your point of view, i.e. denying someone getting in because of supposed/actual lack of RP. To be honest, I really don't mind who plays in the World Cup.

Well, firstly that last part was written half-jokingly, and secondly I was writing the first part from your point of view, i.e. denying someone getting in because of supposed/actual lack of RP. To be honest, I really don't mind who plays in the World Cup.

Alright, that's fine, I'm just trying to get people to read what I've already written, in that signups were closed when the WC Final was TG'ed out. I created this thread after we had a couple of dropouts and a couple ceases that put us below the 80 mark, but stated specifically that Just by posting that you wanted in, did not mean you were in.

Now there's a big arguement about being "Selective" in who gets in, but thats the whole point, Signups are closed, If you wanted to sign up you should have signed up before Signups Closed, luckily, for whoever wasn't signed up, IE: Isles of Wohlstand, we had some spots open up, but like I've said 57 times before, Just by saying you want them isn't going to get you them, as Signups are closed.

Are sign-ups still open?

And deep down, don't we all enjoy a non-RPing newbie to roll over and trounce? ;)

Yes. Oh yes. Oh, oh, oh, God yes!

*lights cigarette*

Oh, and i think the Mau Slurp bit has annoyed enough people that i knocked it off a couple of pages back. (Even though you know i love you, Fallacious Statements! Damn, where's the kissy-faced emoticon?)

My only serious suggestion is that rather than blame each other, let's all try to not post suspicious or hostile comments after a sign-up post. When addressing a newbie, please use your company manners. Words like "welcome" and "thanks" (and "reserve list" if necessary) are so much nicer. Now let's all hold hands and sing about world peace.

- Miss Manners

It had all the makings of an absolute blowout. The experienced side from Turori was running up the scoreline, tweaking their tactics and preparing for their bid to qualify for the upcoming World Cup. Big Pimento’s introduction to international football appeared as though it would be a sad one, but some late-game heroics changed all that.

It looked as though the Turorians had put it in the cruise control, gingerly passing the ball amongst each other, ready to pop the bubbly in recognition of a big win. Kiatin Likao was feeling a bit too snug and made a soft pass across the pitch which got intercepted by the Pimento’s Pierre Poivron. The speedy Poivron sprinted towards net, cutting hard to the left to evade a sliding Martika Ecspo and releasing a stiff, low shot. Slietah dove hard towards his right extending his arm, but his faint touch on the ball was in vain as the ball careened into the back of the net.

Poivron turned around and began dashing towards the corner of the field as he grabbed his jersey and kissed his number nine. Team mates swarmed around Poivron and the fans found their voices again, as the insurmountable deficit of four was reduced to a potentially manageable in case of a miracle deficit of three.

Lady luck struck once more for the peppers as Poivron made another foray into the Turorians box, this time getting tackled by Likao before he could do any damage. But the damage was self-inflicted, as Likao didn’t quite get the entire ball and the ref pointed to the spot as a result. Definitely not a game to remember for Likao.

The Pimento’s captain, Jalapeno Lewis, coolly stepped up the ball and potted one into the left side of the net, fooling the opposing goalkeeper who appeared to have lead in his boots on the play. The crowd at Big Pimento National Stadium increased the decibel level once more as the deficit was reduced to an almost manageable deficit of two. Was the miracle taking place?

Unfortunately for the Pimentos, that was as close as they could get as the much stronger Turorian side recomposed themselves. A good inaugural effort on the whole for Big Pimento, who will hopefully able to draw on some of the positives achieved at the close of the match to build on. The jury’s still out on whether this effort will be good enough to ensure the Pimento’s berth into the qualification for the World Cup, which would be a huge accomplishment in itself for a nation of such a young age.

V, from my neutral point of view, that's a great RP. Let Pimento in. Slaikau....... is a different matter, just remind me, Rejis and NEWI who are the finalised entrants.

Hey, Hey! Vilita has 2 puppets in the cup? That is not right.

Big Pimento, keep it up!

Hey, Hey! Vilita has 2 puppets in the cup? That is not right.
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Hey, Hey! Vilita has 2 puppets in the cup? That is not right.

If you've got a problem with it, then that's fine bring it up and take a vote, kick it out and we'll have less teams. Just remember you wouldn't be complaining had Oddslavo & Chacor both qualified for the World Cup.

hello I would be interested in joining again

Chacor'd never qualify. Oddslavo, though, well each team gets 1 puppet in. Not two.

Chacor would likely have qualified as well if you had RPed. Marligantis is not the only 200+ Rank that made it as far as the playoff, and is not even the only one to have won the playoff.

Chacor'd never qualify. Oddslavo, though, well each team gets 1 puppet in. Not two.

Just for the record...

Vilita will have 3 sides in WC17 - 2 puppets in the qualifiers, because they "qualified", and then Vilita itself in the WC...along with both, one, or neither of the puppets, depending on how the REAL qualifiers go.

Fallacious Statements will have NO sides in WC17, because...well, it seems because Vilita says so.

That seems fair.

Doesn't it?...

FS.... if you didnt enter your main nation, you should be allowed in, in my view.

That's it, I'm had it up to here with you lot bickering

*holds hand up at head height*

LE - Shut Up and stop being an ass. Had Chacor and Oddslavo both qualified you would not be complaining, now go away.

FS - Whoever you are, I have no idea, stop being an ass. FS is a puppet of somebody. Puppets qualify for the World Cup through the Colony Cup, which FS has not done, so FS does not compete in WC17, thems the rules. Sorry, try again next time.

Vil - Stop being an ass. Big Pimento did not need to RP, though they kindly did, it proves nothing, particularly any suspicion they might be a puppet.

[/me laying the smack down]

Now let's have some fun, for crying out loud.

Well, that was an impressive little show of...something.

For the record, I think Vilita is a great WC participant - good RPs etc.

Fallacious Statements withdraws all attempts to participate in WC17. FS is out, and knows there out, and won't stick their nose in again. (they're...spelling has been my downfall, in any language, for ever)

Fallacious Statements was created because, having withdrawn due to time constraints, SN38 found that time wasn't going to be all that constrained - but sign-ups were over. Then, well, it seemed they weren't quite over. And on a whim (I love being on a whim, although it's easy to fall off a whim - case in point, this whole mess) SN38 decided to enter as an unknown newbie. To see what that would be like.

It's crappy.

So. I'm out. Fine.

Here's a couple of thoughts from a vet of WCs 3 through 16, all 3 (4?) of the GESFL competitions, and winner of the one and only Founding Nations Cup (Spaam, the Founding Nations Cup can be found wrapped in burlap, in the broom closet just to the left of the lavatory doors in a little Pub called "Half Pint's Joint" on the corner of Remington Avenue and 8th Street in Sten, should you ever decide to run another Founding Nations Cup).

1. TOO COMPLICATED

2. Qualifiers should be the only qualifiers.

3. TOO COMPLICATED (won't do that again - but, really...)

4. Sign ups should be open, or closed. Not "open a little".

5. No one should have to PROVE themselves to get in. First come, first served, until full. Period.

6. This one is hard to write without sounding like a pompous ass - but, what the hell. SOMEONE spent a LOT of time writing up a set of rules, and then we all discussed them, and then there was editing, and then VOILA - a set of rules to run the WC by - along with a list of WC competions. Where is the rule that says Hosts can create or change the rules? Where is "The Colony Cup" on the list of WC competions?

7. The Weegies, and others I think, said this already. The way this is being run is intimidating to newbies. Hell, it's intimidating to vets.


TB - Very funny with the Mau Slurp, very good with the Miss Manners.

Tanah Burung for President.

FS.... if you didnt enter your main nation, you should be allowed in, in my view.
Last word from me. LE, thanks. Changed my mind again...

Vil - Stop being an ass. Big Pimento did not need to RP, though they kindly did, it proves nothing, particularly any suspicion they might be a puppet.


I never said that the RP was required. They offered to do an RP and I gave them a situation to RP, never did I say that would have any effect on their chances of entering the cup.


4. Sign ups should be open, or closed. Not "open a little".


Sign-Ups closed already, end of story. Now, unlike past cups, I thought it would be a good idea to contact some of the nations that signed up, but are completely utterly inactive, and ask them if they actually wanted to be in the Cup. To my surprise, 4 of them have responded and said "No, I really don't want to be, you can take me out". So I did. So now there are empty spots, although sign ups are closed I figured it would be best to let nations in who hadnt had a chance to sign up within the deadline, Nations that have participated before like Isles Of Wohlstand, to replace these. Other Nations, such as Snub or Brazillico would also get these spots as they were signed up before backing out. The spots are still theres, and if they return, they go right back in. But if they do not, then we need new nations. This is why Sign Ups are closed, but nations are allowed to request entry. Again, like I've already stated.

5. No one should have to PROVE themselves to get in. First come, first served, until full. Period.

No one has had to prove themselves to get in. Although I disagree about First Come-First Serve. Maybe it works for main nations, but not for Puppets. In this world cup, there were somewhere around 10 puppets signed up in the first day of the signup thread being open. Most of them n00b puppets, which in First-Come First Serve, would leave out puppets that have been participating for many cups, and have been RPing for many cups, unlike other puppets that sit around and do nothing. First Come First Serve works to an extent, but there has to be away around it, at least in a small means.


FS should be allowed in if it is SN38 puppet


Yes. FS would be allowed in as It's master is not signed up, so it would assume the Master position. FS can sign up.

I said no such thing, V! Don't mess up my statement! ;)

Haaa, sorry I had enough things to quote I figured close would be enough in this case:)

I said no such thing, V! Don't mess up my statement! ;)

Meanwhile, in a discreet corner, a representative of the Ariddian National Football Association watches on...

Hello there! Good to see the World Cup is still going strong. It's a long time since I've been active in NS, and I'm getting back into it slowly... Just wanted to wave a quick friendly hello and wish all participating teams the best of luck. ;)

Hejida again...

Problem is exactly the thing which was mentioned at first when WCC-rules were created: What if an innovative host comes and makes a quite deciding change? I am split evenly on how to consider this. At first: it is a violation of WCC rules. Clearly and simply. Especially the fact that there were 2 puppets allowed was a breach of WCC-rules. But at the same time it was a pretty innovative idea and I like innovative ideas. I recommend the following compromise: The Colony Cup will be allowed as alternative to 'first come, first served'. It is allowed to have two puppets in the Colony Cup. However (and now comes the deciding thing): only one of these puppets is allowed into the world cup. If two qualify, either the hosts or the puppeteer decides.

BTW: This belongs here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=293066

Va'il veka,

Rejistania
~ACTING president of the WCC~

only one of these puppets is allowed into the world cup. If two qualify, either the hosts or the puppeteer decides.


Agreed Rejis, As this is the way the rule stands currently, and Only Turori will be entered into World Cup 17, as I think it is only fair to be the Puppeteer's decision, unless they make no decision, at which point it should be the discretion of the host.

When an organisation/country/whatever draws up a set of rules, it is only fair that everybody should follow them, regardless of who is in power or who are the hosts.

Although it is too late to say this, but just because whoever is the host does not give them the right to change the regulation as they see fit. They should be followed regardless.

Arry, the WC Founder, actually setup the cup so the hosts would have complete control over the cup. I thought this was a bad idea, and tried to exert control over the cup and standardize it, which of cause no-one liked. The rules evolved from that attempt. Maybe we should change them into a guideline.

When an organisation/country/whatever draws up a set of rules, it is only fair that everybody should follow them, regardless of who is in power or who are the hosts.

Although it is too late to say this, but just because whoever is the host does not give them the right to change the regulation as they see fit. They should be followed regardless.

In our bid thread, that was approved by the WCC, we stated that "First Come, First Serve" would have no bearing on the signups. Other than that rule, which i believe is for puppets anyway, I don't see any regulations that have been changed. Signups are closed, and we are selecting the nations to replace those who ceased. There was no "Alternate List" when signups were closed, so there is no precedent on how these nations should be selected. So Again, I don't see the problem.

Sign Up list updated. Everyone Make sure you are listed, if you wish to be in the Cup. Group Draw will take place tonight around 6:00 PM EST on IRC

IRC INFO:

irc.esper.net
port: 6667
Chan: #sport

Tanah Burung for President.

Augh, dear god no. As if voodoo curses weren't bad enough! Get back, man!

Hi Ariddia, how's things been? Remember when it was hard to get 32 entrants?

Big Pimento, you're wonderful. Welcome to the Cup, it gets much more fun and relaxed from here on in.

Really hate doing this.

Just read the rule on puppets that *gack* I wrote. It clearly states that while puppets must sign up as puppets, they are required (on the honor system) to identify who they are a puppet of.

...

I didn't do that.

I was wrong, and I apologize.

Hope WC 17 is as fun as it ought to be for all participants.

(TB for something other than president)

Really hate doing this.

Just read the rule on puppets that *gack* I wrote. It clearly states that while puppets must sign up as puppets, they are required (on the honor system) to identify who they are a puppet of.

...

I didn't do that.

I was wrong, and I apologize.

Hope WC 17 is as fun as it ought to be for all participants.

(TB for something other than president)

Should I bring up the thread that you started that was a list of all NSWC Puppets and their creators, or should I leave that to be discovered later? :)

Anyway, will you be entering the cup with SN38, or another nation? I've still got a spot reserved for you if you do.

Should I bring up the thread that you started that was a list of all NSWC Puppets and their creators, or should I leave that to be discovered later? :)
Ummm...no, don't bring that up. (anywho, registering your puppet(s) on that thread was voluntary - and very soon died a quiet little death) ;)

Anyway, will you be entering the cup with SN38, or another nation? I've still got a spot reserved for you if you do.If no other nation has asked for that spot, then the Hooligans would be honored to accept.

Ravea wishes to sign up, despite our dismal preformance in the last world cup we participated in.

Ravea is in. 4 Hours until group draw.

Some World Cup 17 Stats..... The MASSIVE Group Table...

---WC ALL Group----
1:: [1] Rejistania 7 6 1 0 22-4 19
2:: [1] NEWI Cefn Druids 7 6 1 0 19-4 19
3:: [1] Commerce Heights 7 6 1 0 20-6 19
4:: [1] Squornshelous 7 6 0 1 21-6 18
5:: [1] Spaam 7 6 0 1 22-9 18
6:: [1] Bedistan 7 6 0 1 17-5 18
7:: [2] One Red Dot 7 6 0 1 12-4 18
8:: [1] Kingsford 7 5 2 0 21-3 17
9:: [2] Liverpool England 7 5 2 0 16-3 17
10:: [1] Total n Utter Insanity 7 5 2 0 15-6 17
11:: [2] Lovisa 7 5 1 1 20-8 16
12:: [1] Svecia 7 5 1 1 15-4 16
13:: [1] Raptor Claw 7 5 1 1 19-10 16
14:: <3> Iansisle 7 5 0 2 18-8 15
15:: [2] El Cid the Hero 7 5 0 2 14-7 15
16:: 5- Sarzonia 7 5 0 2 12-7 15
17:: [2] Cockbill Street 7 5 0 2 13-10 15
18:: [2] Melmond 7 4 2 1 16-7 14
19:: <3> The Eagles Nest 7 4 2 1 15-7 14
20:: [2] Kerla 7 4 2 1 15-10 14
21:: [2] Starblaydia 7 4 1 2 19-9 13
22:: [2] Crystilakere 7 4 1 2 18-8 13
23:: [2] Lemmitania 7 4 1 2 17-8 13
24:: <3> Eauz 7 4 1 2 16-10 13
25:: <3> The Lowland Clans 7 3 4 0 12-6 13
26:: <3> Audioslavia 7 4 1 2 15-10 13
27:: <3> Tanah Burung 7 4 1 2 15-10 13
28:: <4> Lykaia 7 4 1 2 11-7 13
29:: <3> Dennisov 7 4 1 2 10-7 13
30:: <4> The Belmore Family 7 4 1 2 11-9 13

31:: <3> Gesamtkuntswerk 7 4 0 3 17-10 12
32:: <3> Oglethorpia 7 3 3 1 14-10 12
33:: <3> Dance 2 Revolution 7 4 0 3 12-8 12
34:: <4> Halfassedstates 7 4 0 3 11-7 12
35:: <4> Eystrck 7 4 0 3 14-11 12
36:: <4> The Evil Umpire 7 4 0 3 14-12 12
37:: <4> Giant Zucchini 7 4 0 3 12-13 12
38:: <4> Jeruselem 7 4 0 3 11-12 12
39:: 5- Krytenia 7 3 2 2 12-8 11
40:: 5- Europa Brittania 7 3 2 2 13-11 11
41:: <4> Kylaai 7 3 2 2 10-8 11
42:: 5- Snub Nose 38 7 3 2 2 12-11 11
43:: <4> Ebon Hawk 7 3 2 2 9-12 11
44:: 5- Tadjikistan 7 3 1 3 14-9 10
45:: 6- NASTIC 2 7 3 1 3 10-10 10
46:: 5- Slaikau 7 3 1 3 8-14 10
47:: 6- Dead Man 7 3 0 4 9-9 9
48:: <4> Turnia 7 3 0 4 7-10 9
49:: 5- Turori 7 2 2 3 11-8 8
50:: 5- Wella 7 2 2 3 12-10 8
51:: 6- Oaker 7 2 2 3 11-9 8
52:: 5- Aquiliana 7 2 2 3 9-16 8
53:: 5- The Weegies 7 2 1 4 8-9 7
54:: 6- Pedriana 7 2 1 4 12-15 7
55:: 6- Spurland 7 2 1 4 6-9 7
56:: 6- Magnus Valerius 7 2 1 4 6-12 7
57:: 7- Haperd 7 2 0 5 7-11 6
58:: 7- Omniworld 7 2 0 5 9-15 6
59:: 6- The Gulf States 7 2 0 5 6-12 6
60:: 7- Carthage and Troy 7 2 0 5 12-19 6

61:: 6- Avenging Altos 7 2 0 5 8-16 6
62:: 7- Isles Of Wohlstand 7 1 2 4 10-14 5
63:: 7- Kipto-Mare 7 1 2 4 9-16 5
64:: 7- Artoonia 7 1 2 4 5-14 5
65:: 7- Insane Inflation 7 1 1 5 8-16 4
66:: 6- Northbank 7 1 1 5 8-17 4
67:: 7- Esth 7 1 1 5 6-15 4
68:: 7- Liechtenistan 7 1 1 5 6-15 4
69:: 8- Big Pimento 7 1 1 5 4-13 4
70:: 8- Regia Anglorum 7 1 1 5 6-16 4
71:: 8- Wapahkoneta 7 1 1 5 6-19 4
72:: 6- Oceaice 7 1 0 6 7-14 3
73:: 7- Adrasuvare 7 1 0 6 5-17 3
74:: 8- Kirata 7 1 0 6 5-19 3
75:: 8- Qia 7 0 1 6 7-25 1
76:: 8- Pure Evil 7 0 1 6 6-28 1
77:: 8- Pterodactyl 7 0 0 7 3-22 0
78:: 8- Vorpal Bunnies 7 0 0 7 4-25 0
79:: 8- Mikele 7 0 0 7 3-25 0
80:: 8- Ravea 7 0 0 7 3-35 0



Ravea Signs Up, Despite our dismal performance in the last cup....
hmmm.... guess we know the state of the game in Ravea, In need of Defense... Or offense... or... both :)

Hi Ariddia, how's things been? Remember when it was hard to get 32 entrants?


Well, well, thank ye... My economy is still hanging in proud tatters.

Yes, I remember... Though eventually I had to turn down everyone after the 32nd applicant (there were no qualifying stages back then). That's one of the reasons why there was a World Cup 2: so that those who had signed up too late the first time could take part...

The group pairings for WC17 playoffs have been made. Third in one group in the pairing will be at home to fourth in the other, with the winner winning their slot in the finals.

paired groups

7 and 10
9 and 6
4 and 2
1 and 3
5 and 8

ok, even I have to say the goals are getting scored too much. 7-0 occasionally against a newb...yeah believeable. happened once in WCXV. TEN GOALS? and I can't score more than 4?

Can I see the equation when the cup is over?

Like to do some statistical anaylsis on it. It almost seems like the chance to score a goal is too high, where some said mine was too low. in certain situations.

math teacher and all. :)

ok, even I have to say the goals are getting scored too much. 7-0 occasionally against a newb...yeah believeable. happened once in WCXV. TEN GOALS? and I can't score more than 4?

Can I see the equation when the cup is over?

Like to do some statistical anaylsis on it. It almost seems like the chance to score a goal is too high, where some said mine was too low. in certain situations.

math teacher and all. :)


Personally I think there arent enough. We are pitting Top 10 ranked nations against teams ranked in the high 100's and 200. In real life, these matches do not take place, but, in Oceania, Occasionally Australia, a 50th rank team, comes up against these teams, and scores anywhere between 8 and 33 goals per match. :P So imagine what Brazil could do...

i would like to sign up please! :)

Personally I think there arent enough. We are pitting Top 10 ranked nations against teams ranked in the high 100's and 200. In real life, these matches do not take place, but, in Oceania, Occasionally Australia, a 50th rank team, comes up against these teams, and scores anywhere between 8 and 33 goals per match. :P So imagine what Brazil could do...

Well here is my take. There are lots of NS nations. Only the best get to the WCQ. There should be several unRPed Qualifying Rounds before the final one to route out all the teams that would get beaten 30-0. I'd say teams like that would be ranked near 1000 and never make the WCQ. I think that makes sense, but if it doesn't tell me and I'll come back and try and make some sense of it for you. Oh and this is sort of agreeing with TEN.

i would like to sign up please! :)

The signup for World Cup 18 is just a couple of threads down. I just bumped it.

Personally I think there arent enough. We are pitting Top 10 ranked nations against teams ranked in the high 100's and 200. In real life, these matches do not take place, but, in Oceania, Occasionally Australia, a 50th rank team, comes up against these teams, and scores anywhere between 8 and 33 goals per match. :P So imagine what Brazil could do...

IMO England v San Marino comes pretty close to Rejistania v Ravea...

Let's face it, in all regions of the RL World Cup you do get the odd spanking, even in UEFA (which is most like NSWCQs). The fact is, when the big nation comes up against a minnow of minnows, then there will be goals. Usually.

Is the system perfect? No. But by 'eck it's fun.

Teams Qualified Outright
Group 1
[1] Total n Utter Insanity 12 9 2 1 26-10 29
Group 5
[1] Kingsford 12 10 2 0 35-5 32
[2] Liverpool England 12 9 3 0 29-9 30
Group 7
[1] NEWI Cefn Druids 12 10 1 1 30-8 31
Group 10
[1] Rejistania 12 10 2 0 40-7 32

Teams Guaranteed At Least Playoff Spots
Group 1
[2] Lemmitania 12 7 2 3 30-13 23
Group 2
[1] Svecia 12 8 3 1 27-10 27
Group 3
[1] Eauz 12 9 1 2 35-14 28
[2] Melmond 12 7 2 3 29-12 23
<3> Oaker 12 7 2 3 24-15 23
Group 4
[1] Squornshelous 12 9 2 1 29-9 29
[2] Cockbill Street 12 9 0 3 26-13 27
<3> Audioslavia 12 7 3 2 24-13 24
Group 6
[1] Crystilakere 12 9 1 2 30-9 28
[2] Tanah Burung 12 8 1 3 28-15 25
<3> Raptor Claw 12 8 1 3 26-14 25
Group 7
[2] The Lowland Clans 12 7 5 0 27-10 26
Group 8
[1] Bedistan 12 10 1 1 37-9 31
[2] Lovisa 12 8 3 1 32-14 27
<3> Krytenia 12 8 2 2 33-11 26
Group 9
[1] Iansisle 12 10 0 2 37-12 30
[2] Commerce Heights 12 8 3 1 37-14 27
<3> Starblaydia 12 8 1 3 29-13 25

Teams Only Able to Reach Playoffs
Group 1
5- NASTIC 2 12 4 3 5 18-16 15
6- Kylaai 12 4 2 6 14-19 14
Group 3
5- Slaikau 12 5 1 6 16-23 16
Group 4
5- Ebon Hawk 12 3 2 7 10-25 11
Group 5
5- Aquiliana 12 3 5 4 16-23 14
Group 6
5- The Belmore Family 12 5 3 4 17-15 18
Group 7
5- Kerla 12 4 5 3 20-22 17
Group 8
5- Dance 2 Revolution 12 5 1 6 21-23 16
Group 9
5- Giant Zucchini 12 6 0 6 21-22 18
Group 10
6- Pedriana 12 4 2 6 21-25 14

Teams Eliminated Outright
Group 1
7- Artoonia 12 3 3 6 12-26 12
8- Pterodactyl 12 0 1 11 6-39 1
Group 2
6- Northbank 12 2 3 7 14-26 9
7- Esth 12 2 1 9 13-28 7
8- Wapahkoneta 12 1 1 10 11-32 4
Group 3
6- The Evil Umpire 12 4 1 7 17-27 13
7- Insane Inflation 12 3 1 8 16-29 10
8- Qia 12 1 2 9 15-38 5
Group 4
6- Magnus Valerius 12 3 1 8 8-23 10
7- Isles Of Wohlstand 12 2 3 7 14-22 9
8- Big Pimento 12 1 5 6 11-22 8
Group 5
6- Avenging Altos 12 3 1 8 14-26 10
7- Regia Anglorum 12 2 1 9 13-32 7
8- Kipto-Mare 12 1 2 9 10-32 5
Group 6
6- Dead Man 12 4 1 7 13-22 13
7- Omniworld 12 3 1 8 13-26 10
8- Mikele 12 0 0 12 4-39 0
Group 7
6- Kirata 12 2 2 8 15-34 8
7- The Gulf States 12 2 1 9 9-23 7
8- Adrasuvare 12 1 1 10 9-30 4
Group 8
6- Spurland 12 2 3 7 12-23 9
7- Carthage and Troy 12 3 0 9 16-28 9
8- Vorpal Bunnies 12 0 0 12 9-51 0
Group 9
6- Oceaice 12 2 2 8 13-21 8
7- Liechtenistan 12 2 1 9 14-31 7
8- Pure Evil 12 0 1 11 8-56 1
Group 10
7- Haperd 12 3 0 9 12-23 9
8- Ravea 12 0 0 12 5-59 0

Playoff Matchups:
Lykaia vs One Red Dot
Eystrck vs Kerla
Tanah Burung vs Starblaydia
Sarzonia vs Europa Brittania
EL CID THE HERO vs The Weegies
Audioslavia vs Halfassedstates
Tadjikistan vs Spaam
Oaker vs Lemmitania
Oglethorpia vs Dance 2 Revolution
Lovisa vs Aquiliana
(home team listed first)

Playoff Matchups:
......
Audioslavia vs Halfassedstates

(home team listed first)
Ahhh NUTS!

The fact is, when the big nation comes up against a minnow of minnows, then there will be goals.

it doesnt even have to be a minnow

27/03/1999 - Valencia, Spain

SPAIN 9-0 AUSTRIA

thats the same Austria who had recently qualified for France 98 and were then ranked a respectable 20th in the world.

Also lets not forget the exploits of San Marino (0-10 vs Norway in 1992, 1-10 vs Belgium in 2002, 0-7 Vs Austria in 1999) and England roasting Turkey 8-0 twice in the 80s.

as confucious never said, shit happens to shit teams

Does this mean you're expecting to beat me and TLC 9-0 in our group, AS?

1v4 and 2v3.: 1v2 and 3v4: 1v3 and 2v4.
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Group 1:
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Matchday 1:
Eauz v. Dance2Revolution
The Shultis, Lonngeylin, Vilita
Referee: Siki Rej [9,7] Rejistania

Matchday 1:
Squornshelous v. Liverpool England
Turoki National Stadium, Turoki City, Vilita
Referee: Devon Parker [6,7] Bedistan


Matchday 2:
Eauz v. Squornshelous
Turoki National Stadium, Turoki City, Vilita
Referee: Ben McKellan [3,8] Soundgardia

Matchday 2:
Liverpool England v. Dance2Revolution
The Shultis, Lonngeylin, Vilita
Referee: Jesson Muldoch [7,8] Vilita


Matchday 3:
Eauz v. Liverpool England
The Shultis, Lonngeylin, Vilita
Referee: Jutaoi Linuao [4,7] Vilita

Matchday 3:
Squornshelous v. Dance2Revolution
Turoki National Stadium, Turoki City, Vilita
Referee: Kellun Hodges [4,8] The Lowlands Clans
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Group 2:
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Matchday 1:
Bedistan v. Raptor Claw
Lirai Asku Castle, Yeaddin, Vilita
Referee: Jutaoi Linuao [4,7] Vilita

Matchday 1:
Kingsford v. Cockbill Street
Jlinal Cove Complex, Jlinal, Vilita
Referee: Jesson Muldoch [7,8] Vilita


Matchday 2:
Bedistan v. Kingsford
Lirai Asku Castle, Yeaddin, Vilita
Referee: Siki Rej [9,7] Rejistania

Matchday 2:
Cockbill Street v. Raptor Claw
Jlinal Cove Complex, Jlinal, Vilita
Referee: Trevor Korsov [2,7] Squornshelous


Matchday 3:
Bedistan v. Cockbill Street
Jlinal Cove Complex, Jlinal, Vilita
Referee: Ben McKellan [3,8] Soundgardia

Matchday 3:
Kingsford v. Raptor Claw
Lirai Asku Castle, Yeaddin, Vilita
Referee: Milaibao Toibna [3,6] Turori
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Group 3:
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Matchday 1:
The Eagles Nest v. Turori
Almintora National Stadium, Almintora, Turori
Referee: Devon Parker [6,7] Bedistan

Matchday 1:
Spaam v. Crystilakere
National View Stadium, Morata Valley, Vilita
Referee: Kellun Hodges [4,8] The Lowlands Clans


Matchday 2:
The Eagles Nest v. Spaam
National View Stadium, Morata Valley, Vilita
Referee: Jutaoi Linuao [4,7] Vilita

Matchday 2:
Crystilakere v. Turori
Almintora National Stadium, Almintora, Turori
Referee: Jesson Muldoch [7,8] Vilita


Matchday 3:
The Eagles Nest v. Crystilakere
National View Stadium, Morata Valley, Vilita
Referee: Siki Rej [9,7] Rejistania

Matchday 3:
Spaam v. Turori
Almintora National Stadium, Almintora, Turori
Referee: Trevor Korsov [2,7] Squornshelous
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Group 4:
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Matchday 1:
Vilita v. Kerla
Tivali Ring Stadium, Alikki-Corra, Vilita
Referee: Ben McKellan [3,8] Soundgardia

Matchday 1:
Total n Utter Insanity v. Lemmitania
Marine World Park, Crosaibi, Vilita
Referee: Kellun Hodges [4,8] The Lowlands Clans


Matchday 2:
Vilita v. Total n Utter Insanity
Tivali Ring Stadium, Alikki-Corra, Vilita
Referee: Devon Parker [6,7] Bedistan

Matchday 2:
Lemmitania v. Kerla
Marine World Park, Crosaibi, Vilita
Referee: Trevor Korsov [2,7] Squornshelous


Matchday 3:
Vilita v. Lemmitania
Tivali Ring Stadium, Alikki-Corra, Vilita
Referee: Kellun Hodges [4,8] The Lowlands Clans

Matchday 3:
Total n Utter Insanity v. Kerla
Marine World Park, Crosaibi, Vilita
Referee: Milaibao Toibna [3,6] Turori

GROUP E:
DAY ONE: Europa Brittania v Aquiliana | Archway Stadium, Farela, Kaze Progressa | ref: Amy Segora [8,7] [The Eagles Nest]
Krytenia v Iansisle | The Kick Arena, Paninara, Kaze Progressa | ref: Sergeit Ivanov [8,9] [Tadjikistan]

DAY TWO: Europa Brittania v Iansisle | Archway Stadium, Farela, Kaze Progressa | ref: Sergeit Ivanov [8,9] [Tadjikistan]
Aquiliana v Krytenia | The Kick Arena, Paninara, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Castellani [5,8] [Esth]

DAY THREE: Europa Brittania v Krytenia | Archway Stadium, Farela, Kaze Progressa | ref: Nuji Beili [5,9] [Kaze Progressa]
Aquiliana v Iansisle | The Kick Arena, Paninara, Kaze Progressa | ref: David Solomon [6,9] [Jeruselem]

GROUP F:
DAY ONE: Audioslavia v Starblaydia | Gateway Arena, Taqizerr, Kaze Progressa | ref: Nuji Beili [5,9] [Kaze Progressa]
The Lowland Clans v NEWI Cefn Druids | Read or Dead Arena, Pageas, Kaze Progressa | ref: Faré Garaliga [3,8] [Tingitana]

DAY TWO: Audioslavia v NEWI Cefn Druids | Gateway Arena, Taqizerr, Kaze Progressa | ref: Amy Segora [8,7] [The Eagles Nest]
Starblaydia v The Lowland Clans | Read or Dead Arena, Pageas, Kaze Progressa | ref: Jaulti Barrnu [8,8] [Kaze Progressa]

DAY THREE: Audioslavia v The Lowland Clans | K-Cheese Frizkao Arena, Frizkao, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Bindschädler [6,8] [Liechtenistan]
Starblaydia v NEWI Cefn Druids | Gateway Arena, Taqizerr, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Castellani [5,8] [Esth]

GROUP G:
DAY ONE: Rejistania v EL CID THE HERO | Progressair Stadium, Kaza, Kaze Progressa | ref: Jaulti Barrnu [8,8] [Kaze Progressa]
One Red Dot v Svecia | K-Cheese Frizkao Arena, Frizkao, Kaze Progressa | ref: David Solomon [6,9] [Jeruselem]

DAY TWO: Rejistania v Svecia | K-Cheese Frizkao Arena, Frizkao, Kaze Progressa | ref: Faré Garaliga [3,8] [Tingitana]
EL CID THE HERO v One Red Dot | Read or Dead Arena, Pageas, Kaze Progressa | ref: Nuji Beili [5,9] [Kaze Progressa]

DAY THREE: Rejistania v One Red Dot | K-Cheese Frizkao Arena, Frizkao, Kaze Progressa | ref: Faré Garaliga [3,8] [Tingitana]
EL CID THE HERO v Svecia | Read or Dead Arena, Pageas, Kaze Progressa | ref: Jaulti Barrnu [8,8] [Kaze Progressa]

GROUP H:
DAY ONE: Kaze Progressa v Dennisov | Progressair Stadium, Kaza, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Bindschädler [6,8] [Liechtenistan]
Melmond v Commerce Heights | Westside Stadium, Gauralan, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Castellani [5,8] [Esth]

DAY TWO: Kaze Progressa v Commerce Heights | Progressair Stadium, Kaza, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco Bindschädler [6,8] [Liechtenistan]
Dennisov v Melmond | Irafma Lakeside Arena, Quarua, Kaze Progressa | ref: Marco | ref: David Solomon [6,9] [Jeruselem]

DAY THREE: Kaze Progressa v Melmond | Progressair Stadium, Kaza, Kaze Progressa | ref: Amy Segora [8,7] [The Eagles Nest]
Svecia v Commerce Heights | Irafma Lakeside Arena, Quarua, Kaze Progressa | ref: Sergeit Ivanov [8,9] [Tadjikistan]

Also lets not forget the exploits of San Marino (0-10 vs Norway in 1992, 1-10 vs Belgium in 2002, 0-7 Vs Austria in 1999) and England roasting Turkey 8-0 twice in the 80s.

as confucious never said, shit happens to shit teams
So I don't have a chance at all, do I? ;)

So I don't have a chance at all, do I? ;)

Does this mean you're expecting to beat me and TLC 9-0 in our group, AS?

No, because you arent shit teams, i predicted Starblaydia to go through against TB didnt i? :p (ok so i thought Aquiliana would get hammered 4-1 by Lovisa but if it makes you feel any better i was willing Aquiliana to win :p)

anyway, heres some feelgood statistics for those ranked the wrong side of the top 40, and some reality checks for you "hey i have divine right to win everything because im in the top 10" people.

RL
Italy (9) 0-2 Iceland (80) - 2004
Spain (15) 2-3 Cyprus (83) - 1998
Brazil (2) 0-2 Honduras (49) - 2001
Euro 2004 Champs: Greece (34)
Euro 1992 Champs: Denmark (before rankings were introduced but about 40, if that)

NS
TnUI (top 20 ish) 1-5 Lanky Dude (200) - WC11
Audioslavia (11) 0-4 Squornshelous (100) - WC5
Errinundera (1) 2-3 Endray Island (150) - WC8
WC4 Champs: Dennisov (45)
WC8 Champs: Liverpool England (28)

NS
Audioslavia (11) 0-4 Squornshelous (100) - WC5

Actually, Squorn was #45. WC5 is the only one I know of that featured "rank compression", where ranked teams not participating were thrown out of the rankings, and even n00b teams like Squornshelous (and myself) were moved up accordingly. New teams were ranked #45 in WC5, which would explain how about a dozen of us (including myself) qualified on our first attempt. :D

WC8 Champs: Liverpool England (28)

Over host Bedistan (5)...three to one...in other words, not a match that should be brought up at any time, capice? :D

RL
Italy (9) 0-2 Iceland (80) - 2004
Spain (15) 2-3 Cyprus (83) - 1998
Brazil (2) 0-2 Honduras (49) - 2001
Euro 2004 Champs: Greece (34)
Euro 1992 Champs: Denmark (before rankings were introduced but about 40, if that)

NS
TnUI (top 20 ish) 1-5 Lanky Dude (200) - WC11
Audioslavia (11) 0-4 Squornshelous (100) - WC5
Errinundera (1) 2-3 Endray Island (150) - WC8
WC4 Champs: Dennisov (45)
WC8 Champs: Liverpool England (28)

You forgot:
Austria 0-1 Faroes (1990)

Over host Bedistan (5)...three to one...in other words, not a match that should be brought up at any time, capice? :D

Ok.. how about...

World Cup 7 Semi Final
Bedistan 1-2 Errinundera

World Cup 9 Semi Final
Bedistan 0-1 Ravenspire

World Cup 13 Semi Final
Bedistan 0-3 Eauz

any better? :)

You forgot:
Austria 0-1 Faroes (1990)

i remembered that actually, but i thought the others were more instantly impressive

Ok.. how about...

World Cup 7 Semi Final
Bedistan 1-2 Errinundera

World Cup 9 Semi Final
Bedistan 0-1 Ravenspire

World Cup 13 Semi Final
Bedistan 0-3 Eauz

any better? :)

You know I don't have the sense to keep my mouth shut. :p

You know I don't have the sense to keep my mouth shut. :p

And we haven't even mentioned Pedriana yet...

ok orignal complaint removed.


however, I STILL want to see this equation that was used to score when the cup is over. too many fishy scores.

Will there be a Cup of Harmony this time around? I see that there is a shortage of hosts wanting to do so.... Quite possibly should someone contact a nation like Sarzonia or The Belmore Family to host or possibly have a puppet of a qualified nation do the honours? Just a thought.

If I had a scorinator that was Mac compatible, I'd be willing to host the Cup of Harmony...

If I had a scorinator that was Mac compatible, I'd be willing to host the Cup of Harmony...

Nema Problema: Leagion runs on every system, which has a JRE.

How would I get Leagion then?

How would I get Leagion then?

You give Rejis your email addy after asking nicely

You give Rejis your email addy after asking nicelyDone.

Also LD wasn't 200th - they started in WC9 with their illogical good form, and WC11 was their third cup of terror. I think they'd have been around 50th. But still, 5-1...

Also LD wasn't 200th - they started in WC9 with their illogical good form, and it can't have been WC11 as TnUI hosted it. (WC10 rings a bell, I know it wasn't WC12 as LD weren't in that or future Cups). I think they'd have been around 50th. But still, 5-1...

Will there be a Cup of Harmony this time around? I see that there is a shortage of hosts wanting to do so.... Quite possibly should someone contact a nation like Sarzonia or The Belmore Family to host or possibly have a puppet of a qualified nation do the honours? Just a thought.

I just got Leagion last night and I plan to install and run it tonight. I might like some help determining the teams I'll invite to the Cup of Harmony.

The way I'm looking to structure it, the teams will likely be a combination of the active RPers and the quality just-missed sides. Right now, I'm looking at 16 teams and four groups of four teams each, three group stage matches, and then the knockout rounds. The top two teams from each group will advance to the quarterfinals.

Once I get a mock tournament going, I'll post information and send invites to some of the teams I think would be the most interesting to have. Some of them may not have high rankings in the world, but may be added for their RP ability (like Big Pimento).

If someone would like to help out, I'd appreciate it.

Also LD wasn't 200th - they started in WC9 with their illogical good form, and it can't have been WC11 as TnUI hosted it. (WC10 rings a bell, I know it wasn't WC12 as LD weren't in that or future Cups). I think they'd have been around 50th. But still, 5-1...

WC10: Lanky Dude (53) vs Total n Utter Insanity (29)