NationStates Jolt Archive


Human Rights Council to be Formed

New Genoa
23-08-2004, 23:28
SENTIENT RIGHTS ABUSES/VIOLATIONS ARCHIVE (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=351564)

In New Genoa, atrocities committed against any sentient life (be it human, elf, dwarf, AI, Klingon, or any other life form that possesses sentience) are decreed as "abhorrent," and are looked down upon with great scorn. It is quite evident that in this world in which live that there are innumerable crimes against sentient life. Torture, cruelty, and sham trials among others run rampant while the rest of the world turns the other cheek and ignores these offenses. And thus it is our intention to form an organization that will document and archive such offenses for public display. Using this archive, nations of the world will be able to see, first hand, the atrocities and monstrosities committed.

The intention of this "Sentient Rights Council" is simple. We do not plan on invading or attacking sentient rights offenders. We do not plan on placing economic sanctions or instigating economic wars. We do, however, plan on archiving these offenses for all to see and to encourage or urge others (or the nations committing the offenses) to put an end to these abominations. It is our intent to peacefully put an end to sentient rights attacks and offenses or at least slow down the occurrences of them. In addition to documenting sentient rights offenses, we plan on sending out investigators to various nations to check for sentient rights violations. However, it is the nation's choice to allow the investigators to enter; be reminded, though, that nations who refuse to allow investigators to enter will be looked upon suspiciously. If you want to keep your record clean, allow the investigators to enter.

To apply, any nation willing to join this esteemed organisation must send a letter of formal requisition. Any nations willing to join must submit to an inspection by (at this time, New Genoese) Head Committee Members. Once a full inspection has been completed and few to no sentient rights abuses are to found, then the Head Committee will vote to allow the applying nation to join this organisation. If at least four Head Committee Members vote to allow the applying nation to join our organisation, they will be admitted and asked to join one of the above committees.

Headquarters will be established in New Genoa, New Genoa in our eastern district. Further meeting centers will be founded once more members are admitted. Meetings will be held five days a week, Monday through Friday until further changes are made.

The following nations are members of the "Sentient Rights Council."


-New Genoa
-Tanah Burung
-Lunatic Retard Robots
-Knootoss
-Celack
-P4lladia
-Feline

Pending
-Arenumberg
-Mchealioeag
-Neo-Tiburon
New Genoa
23-08-2004, 23:30
Human Rights Offenders

Nation:
Offense:
Archived:
New Genoa
23-08-2004, 23:33
<OOC:

OOC Requirements:

Head Committee: Superb civil rights; clean record; three examples of you participating in a good a roleplay and roleplaying well.

Lower Committees: Average civil rights or on the verge of improvement; fairly clean record; one example of you participating in a good roleplay and roleplaying well.

You can be denied entrance into this organisation based on roleplaying abilities. A telegram will be sent to you from my puppet, New Genoa 2, concerning your admittance and status as a member. Please telegram any questions to New Genoa 2 or New Genoa Peacekeepers, I do NOT want my telegram inbox flooded.

The forum can be found here (http://s4.invisionfree.com/the_council_forum/).

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Forum Feline
23-08-2004, 23:35
The Democratic Arcologies of Feline is known for its commitment to sapient rights. We would not be fulfilling that commitment if we did not apply to join this organization and offer to serve on whatever committee we are needed on.
New Genoa
23-08-2004, 23:43
Feline's application has been noted and its status has been updated to Pending awaiting inspections from New Genoese officials.

Foreign Affairs

<OOC: OOC requirements -- thread example needed. I may change the OOC rules for lower committee members, but as of now, only fairly good RP'ers will be allowed in.>
Forum Feline
23-08-2004, 23:52
(OOC: Thread? I'm not iin the mood for digging, so here is my latest RP. Anyway, if you sent a TG, re-send it. My inbox was full.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=329975)
Knootoss
23-08-2004, 23:53
OOC: Well... I'd like to join. But do you need the examples? We've known eachother for an uberlong time now no? Technically, we are still allies though the BDI. :)
~Lazy Knoot
New Genoa
23-08-2004, 23:57
<OOC: alright, I've found that you are capable of good roleplaying. you're going to be placed into the inspection committee for now, Feline. Knoot, the Order of the Invisible Hand is good enough evidence for me; you'll covering genocide right now. a proper forum will be set up once we have at least ten members.>
Knootoss
24-08-2004, 00:04
((Ah, well, you know that thread. Can't I do "Torture of Prisoners of War" then? I'm fairly good at that. Oh, wait. Nevermind. :p))
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 00:07
<OOC:

1: added descriptions of the current committees in two short paragraphs.

2: genocide is one of the most fairly common offenses committed on NationStates and thus we need someone to cover it early on.

3: I will be starting an official archive thread (of offenses). The process for submitting a report will be clarified soon. There's still much to be done.

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Knootoss
24-08-2004, 00:12
May I suggest a procedure that allows for certain reports to be vetoed in some way? You know... just to prevent certain, uh, biased reports from being adopted.
Forum Feline
24-08-2004, 00:18
We would oppose such a measure. All members of a commitee could not have the same unfair bias against a nation, but one could have an unfair bias for a nation.
Knootoss
24-08-2004, 00:29
We would oppose such a measure. All members of a commitee could not have the same unfair bias against a nation, but one could have an unfair bias for a nation.

At least there should be a procedure, in our opinion, to guarantee the quality of decision-making. A vetoe or at least the possibility of objections to certain reports should exist.
Tanah Burung
24-08-2004, 00:31
Tanah Burung would be pleased to support this organization and serve wherever needed. Our borders are, of course, open to inspectors who will find our human rights standards more than adequate.
Arenumberg
24-08-2004, 00:39
The Socialist Confederacy will be more than happy to lend its support and dedication to such a Organization, as we beleive the world has gone too long without it.
Celack
24-08-2004, 00:50
i would like a possition on the Head commitee. I was in old NATO with you and I am in APTO. 3 good rp examples

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339901
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345242
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=326977
and a fourth in case one isn't valid
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=292983&page=2&pp=15
Tarasovka
24-08-2004, 01:30
"Just a question, if I may? Yes, thank you. Andrey Slanderov of the Vigvar Daily. In the declaration of purpose you state that the organisation will defend the rights of all sentients? Am I correct? If it is so, why is the organisation called 'Human Rights Council'? If I am not mistaken, the name of the organisation should reflect the declaration of purpose of that same organisation. However, here we assist at a case of outright hypocrisy! Do you think that people will bother reading? I already see elves turning their backs on a 'Human Rights Council' since it does not represent their own interests! I can hardly imagine a machine falling under the category of 'human' and especially under the category of 'life form'! Yet again, we assist a blatant example of the liberal hypocrisy! And yet again... yet... just a second, please, my phone is ringing...

Slanderov on the line. Yes... yes, sure... of course I did... what do you mean by 'fired'? Me? The great Slanderov fired? Yet again we assist a blatant example of conservative hypocrisy!"

[OOC: Elaborated tag. Interesting to see what comes out of this 'Human Rights Council'. Nothing effective for sure... ]
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 02:35
All final reports will first be reviewed by a Head Committee Member. The name "Human" Rights Council is more of a blanket term -- Human Rights is the common term used and thus this is why we chose it. The organisation protects all sentient life as stated earlier. A name change is not a top priority at the moment. Current applications will be reviewed.

Foreign Affairs
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 02:43
<OOC:

1: Celack, while you have 3 good examples of good RP'ing, your civil rights are too low for a Head Committee Member. You'll be accepted as a Low Committee Member.

2: The name "Human Rights." It's a common term used.

3: There will be procedures to make sure no one writes up a faulty report. Sources will need to be provided and so forth.

4: Everyone else who has applied -- thread links please. Otherwise, you're still on pending.

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Forum Feline
24-08-2004, 02:47
Two things:

1. We would support allowing dissenting opinions to be written, much as they are in the high courts of many nations.

2. We would support re-naming the group to "Sapient" rather than "human."
Celack
24-08-2004, 03:34
1. Whoopsie! Iv'e been ignoring my issues.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-08-2004, 04:28
LRR would very much like to join the international human rights council. We believe that LRR would be a valuable asset to the council. We have a history of keeping our human rights record spotless, and even after major population centers were flattened in a nuclear first-strike, we did not hit back.

We believe that we can be very impartial, belonging to no alliances, and the large amount of signals intelligence ships, aircraft, and sattelites can help the council detect signs of atrocities for investigation.

An example of an RP I was in:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=330685

Some more, for the record:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=335088

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=324348
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 04:29
<OOC: The forum can be found here (http://s4.invisionfree.com/the_council_forum/).>
Tanah Burung
24-08-2004, 06:05
World's slowest RP: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=333648

Fun with Catholicism: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=326832

Very long election thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=310297
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 18:19
Tanah Burung has been accepted into our organisation and has been appointed as a Torture of Political Prisoners lower committee member. Once further inspections have been completed and such, we will make the decision concerning Tanah Burung's entry as a Head Committee Member. However, we feel that a meeting among this (and henceforth known as) Sentient Rights Council is required before any nation is promoted to the Head Committee.

Lunatic Retard Robots has also been admitted as a lower committee member -- Torture of Prisoners of War lower committee to be specific.

Foreign Affairs
Automagfreek
24-08-2004, 18:43
I can see we're going to butt heads on this one.......
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 18:46
<OOC: be reminded this is not a military organisation. :)>
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-08-2004, 22:29
Tanah Burung has been accepted into our organisation and has been appointed as a Torture of Political Prisoners lower committee member. Once further inspections have been completed and such, we will make the decision concerning Tanah Burung's entry as a Head Committee Member. However, we feel that a meeting among this (and henceforth known as) Sentient Rights Council is required before any nation is promoted to the Head Committee.

Lunatic Retard Robots has also been admitted as a lower committee member -- Torture of Prisoners of War lower committee to be specific.

Foreign Affairs

Thanks for admitting LRR. So...do you want us to register on the council forum?
New Genoa
24-08-2004, 22:32
<OOC: yes, please. the forum is where everything will be organised to be published.>
New Genoa
25-08-2004, 20:52
<OOC: Bump.>
Ilek-Vaad
25-08-2004, 21:24
The Free Republic certainly supports this organizations work, However the Free Republic as a rule does not take any positions of interest or control in international organizations. We will simply register our support but we will not ask to be added to any committes.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad
Knootoss
30-08-2004, 23:13
So, uh, whats next?
New Genoa
31-08-2004, 00:53
Did you join the forum? We need more members before anything is done.
Lunatic Retard Robots
31-08-2004, 01:13
Yeah, we need those subcomittees filled up.
Weyr
31-08-2004, 01:14
OOC: What about cases like the WCV? The Weyrean Field Marshall ordered a carped bombing of a major population center, which killed over two hundred thousand rebel and noncombatant men, women, and children still stuck in or refusing to leave Southport City. However, the Rebels who are currently using the said city as a fortress gassed a dozen million Weyrean citizens. Then there are the refugees who died from exposure due to a huge logistical mess.....

Who gets the stick of this committee? The Field Marshal who effectively gave three days for people to leave the city before glassing it; the rebels for murdering their 'fellow' Weyreans; or no one because they simply did what they believed to be right?
New Genoa
31-08-2004, 02:04
<OOC: both would be documented and archived.>
Lunatic Retard Robots
31-08-2004, 04:08
OCC: As I understand it, this council has no stick. It's more of a shame type punishment. And I certainly won't sell the offender anything.
Neo-Tiburon
11-09-2004, 18:53
The Republic of Neo-Tiburon, representing the United Republics of Tiburon (Tiburon, Altea, The Forgotten Land, Neo-Tiburon) in the international community, requests admission to this noble organization.

OOC: My threads- every single one of them- have been annihilated when the server moved. But we fought together in the NATO war, right? That's all I have... sorry...
P4lladia
11-09-2004, 20:38
The Palladian Technate would like to express our interest in joining your organization. Human rights are of supreme important to us, and on several times have we defended the rights of others. We will leave it up to you to find us a place, as we strongly believe that we can do good managing genocide, war crimes or anything in between. Many thanks to you in advance, and we wish you favorable probability in assembling a successful member base, which we hope to soon be part of.
-Director Gaikoukan Joshu, Foreign Relations Sequence

OOC
Here are three RPs that I have been involved in, in case you find us acceptable to place in the Head Commitee. I'd be happy anywhere, though.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=311637 - strange, unresolved fantasy RP from a long time ago.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=333754 - Palladia protects religious rights!
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349238 - in-progress dealings with a separatist group...
EDIT: In the second thread, I notice, a Palladian officer commits what may be seen as war crimes. "Shogun Kitai" is established as being criminally insane and operates contrary to the Technate's war policies. I was planning a side plot with that (including disciplinary actions and reconstruction) but the thread ended abruptly. Don't think of that as standard operating procedure.
New Genoa
11-09-2004, 22:55
Neo-Tiburon has been placed on the pending list, pending further inspections. Palladia has been accepted; Head Committee membership will be considered once further inspections are conducted. As of this moment, Palladia may wish to send several delegates to assist with the documentation of sentient rights offences. The description of this committee is described in the first memorandum sent out to the international community.

Daniel Rammestein
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs-
New Genoa
11-09-2004, 22:57
<OOC: forum accounts have been approved for Knootoss.. awaiting Tanah Burung to confirm their email.>
Tanah Burung
12-09-2004, 01:39
Oops, sorry. Done now.
New Genoa
12-09-2004, 01:42
OOC: please, after you join (excluding everyone who's registered already) the forum, PM me with the committee you've been assigned to so I can easily change your member group accordingly. thank you.
The Water Cooler
12-09-2004, 01:51
Official Communication

Dateline: Sunday, 12 September 200x, Sohi City, Early Morning
Classification: None

Authorisation Code: Sd.34.39.9.gr

Sir,

The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler formally condemns this organisation.

We are sure this organisation will just be a façade to cover up the gross and cruel manipulation of national sovereignty of nations that do not meet up to the supposed ‘standards’ of this group.

We shall be watching you closely.

Sincerely,
Lord Hizen Barden,
Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler
New Genoa
12-09-2004, 02:04
There's a fine line between dignity and inherent freedoms and "national sovereignty." This organisation serves as a role to publicly exploit these offences. National sovereignty does not mean a nation can cruelly feed its populace to a tank full of white sharks.

Daniel Rammestein
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs-
P4lladia
12-09-2004, 03:17
Lord Barden,
Would disturbing the soverignty of a nation not be considered a violation of human rights? We in Palladia are strong believers in a nation's right to govern itself, and we have complete confidence that the intentions of New Genoa and other member nations are nothing but the most noble. I see the Council doing far more to protect soverignty than to end it.
-Director Gaikoukan Joshu, Foreign Relations Sequence
Joshu
12-09-2004, 22:38
The Technate of Joshu would like to voice interest in and support for the Council. For the same reasons that were highlighted by P4lladia, we would like to take part in this cause, and are prepared to fulfill any role necessary.
Knootoss
25-10-2004, 02:03
Wikified:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Human_Rights_Council
Neo-Tiburon
26-10-2004, 02:19
The Republic of Neo-Tiburon would like to know how it can move from the pending list to the fully-fledged member list.
Vrak
26-10-2004, 02:46
To: Council Members
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps

We shall monitor this organization closely. Attempts by this organization to meddle in the affairs of the Klatch shall be dealt with accordingly.
Forum Primus
26-10-2004, 15:32
Before the Free Market Republic of Forum Primus even begins to consider joining the Human Rights Council, we would like a definitive list of all the human rights drawn up for reference. Without definition, committee members may be unable to determine conclusively, whether or not documented nations are in fact violators and/or whether member nations themselves are abusing human rights.
Consider our suggestions as gifts.

__________________________________

Senator Gaius Frederickson
Human Rights Ministry (HRM) Representative
The Free Market Republic of Forum Primus
Knootoss
28-10-2004, 23:28
((OOC: I'd say it is up to New Genoa what to do with this.))
New Genoa
31-10-2004, 21:56
<OOC: bump, reactivating this. I'll need someone to help me get this organization organized and ready to go since no one seems to like to listen to me.>
New Genoa
31-10-2004, 21:57
The Republic of Neo-Tiburon would like to know how it can move from the pending list to the fully-fledged member list.

<OOC: you'll need to meet the OOC and IC requirements listed in the first post. post 'em, and you're in.>
Neo-Tiburon
03-11-2004, 01:38
The only requirements that I haven't posted are the RPs... and all of them were crushed like an ice cube supporting the weight of a nuclear submarine. The one RP that I know that you know that I was in was the NATO war against N0rth Korea. I'm starting more up soon, but until that does, will the war suffice?

And Neo-Tiburon is not applying. Tiburon is. I still have to work on increasing the civil liberties and political freedoms of Neo-Tiburon slightly...
Kerla
04-11-2004, 09:16
The Socialist Union of Kerla would like to formally apply for membership in the Human Rights Council. We feel that we have a good record and meet all requirements.

Stephanie Rosen
Premier
Socialist Union of Kerla
New Genoa
05-11-2004, 12:53
<OOC: updates to membership will be made once I come back from school>
Sanctaphrax
05-11-2004, 13:03
Sanctaphrax have long been against human rights abuses, we would gladly participate in such a council. We will monitor ABC weapons (Atomic, Biological and Chemical) if the post is still open. (I haven't read the entire thread)

OOC: I normally post in the II forum but am starting to move into NS.
Iuthia
05-11-2004, 14:19
While we are not interested in being a member of this organisation due to the fact we like to keep our options open these days, we will offer some of our resources to help you're cause.

Here is a link to one of my previous and somewhat old attempts to log nuclear weapon usage, along with my methods which can be copied should you feel that they are effecient enough to be used by your selves.

INOC Archives (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=308521)

(Note the links no longer work due to the age of the thread (pre-Jolt))

We are also willing to help you're organisation log Human Rights abuses by pointing them out from our circles of influence around the world (OOC: I can point out a million cases in International Indicents and probably have some background on them too).
Iraqstan
05-11-2004, 14:39
Transmission Commencing
Sender: Führer Carlos Quil'Raya
Recipient: Leader of humanrights Council
Re: Application for membership

Greetings,

It is with great honour that the National Socialist Union of Iraqstan do humbly request to add it's mighty presence to the cause of this council. We find the use of inhumane actions against sentient beings to be the basis of evil and seek to reveal the core of evil to the surrounding world in our hopes of furthering the path of peace and unity.

We are a nation of honour and human values and in this we find the layout of the HRC to be perfect for what we wish to express to the world and seek to gain admittance to this honourable organisation. In this I humbly await your response.

Regards,
Carlos Quil'raya
Führer of Iraqstan.
Sending........................Transmission Sent

An example of my RP can be found here.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341043
Knootoss
05-11-2004, 20:54
OOC: Heh. Iraqstan joining. Good one. Anyway, I posted a proposal for organisational reform in the forums.
Tanah Burung
05-11-2004, 22:37
(ooc: still interested, but i'm going to be away for the next 2 weeks. Knoot, you have a telegram.)
New Genoa
06-11-2004, 19:53
<OOC: is the Um Lizaa affair public? sorry, I haven't followed this stuff. and the council has been reformed which is why the first post is alot shorter. all committees have been abolished and we'll all be working together instead. elections for presiding officer and such will be held later.>
Iraqstan
07-11-2004, 05:04
OOC: uh...about as public as hundreds of artillery units bombarding two cities with the help of naval forces can be..... what most people dont see is the fighting on the ground..