Allanean Government De-Valuates Currency (ATTN: Zero-One)
Official Government Announcement
A few days ago, we have transferred 11 billion Allanean dollars in cash (110 million 100-dollar notes) to the nation of Zero-One. Under this order of the Minister of the treasury, we order those notes, numbered (find 15 MB TXT file with numbers attached) non-redeemable. The numbers contained are already fed into the computers of all major Allanean banks and they will not redeem or exchange the notes.
The notes are now, officially WORTHLESS. Have a nice day.
The Most Glorious Hack
14-08-2004, 16:24
Interesting... selective devaluation of select notes... paper currency sucks. I'm surprized Zero-One accepted physical currency. I would have expected bearer-bonds or an electronic transfer.
And, of course, there's the small matter of striking out like a petulant child against a nation who's only crime is... well... taking advantage of your own stupidity.
Oh, one last bit, I'm sure the notes can still be used. Or laundered. Don't forget: Most nations are more resourceful than yours seems to be.
- Dargan Z'rad, Office of Unofficial Official Statements
The Semi-Autonomous Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack
Jeruselem
14-08-2004, 16:30
This confirms our belief, transactions should be electronic or in precious metals (like Gold). Banknotes are as valuable or valueless as the economy of the issuing authority.
God bless
OOC: Sure, hack. They aren't TOTALLY worthless. But they're worth far more than, uhm, real money.
IC: Technically, our money is redeemable and backed by gold - except those particular notes.
You might consider the fact that this is Zero-One, and given their economy and the amount of 'money' that flows through it every day the notes are likely already passed on to someone else. Thus they have either been passed on to a bank, currency trading house, or used to finance a purchase from an Earth nation that recognizes Allenean currency. Since this was a public announcement all financial institutions of any status in Sol (and beyond) are now likely to know about this.
In essence, you just dropped the Allenean credit rating though the floor. Because of this and the amount of the transaction you can expect that no reputable Sol-based business will allow Allenean funds to be used in purchases without a considerable collateral security deposit. Given that Allenean funds make up an insignificant fraction of the Solar economy I don't think this will be terribly distressing though.
Senator Wilson,
Senate Trade Division,
Libertarian Paradise of Sunset
Cetaganda
14-08-2004, 22:09
Given the amount of trade between us and our ally Zero-One, and for that matter between them and the rest of the Triumvirate of Yut, I have ordered all Cetagandan banks and financial institution to immediately check to see if any of these notes are currently held by them. If any such are present, we will immediately trade them in to the Allanea goverment in exchange for the gold that they are backed by. We do not accept your decision to de-value these specific notes as we had nothing to do with whatever issues you have with 01MC.
Furthermore, I have ordered Cetagandan businesses to cease accept Allanea currency from this point forward. It is a completely unacceptable risk to do business with your corporations and/or government when funds can be declared worthless at any moment. I suggest you start looking for another currency to use internationally, although that may be difficult since no one's likely to let you use Allanean dollars to buy the currency in the first place.
First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton
State Directorate, Imperial Union of Cetaganda
Any and all Allanean national and private assets held in the Imperial Commonwealth of Khenala are hereby declared frozen until such time as they can be reclaimed by presentation of a valid major world currency or its value in precious metals.
Furthermore, Allanean dollars will no longer be accepted by any financial instituion in the Imperial Commonwealth. Any citizens carrying such currency are instructed to attempt to reclaim their value through the Alllanean government. The Imperial Commonwealth holds itself free of liability for any loss in value of this currency as a result of this action by the Allanean government.
Neumann Zane
High Minister of Commerce and Finance
Imperial Commonweath of Khenala
Kajal Mars
14-08-2004, 23:02
The following is an official announcement by the Government of Kajal Mars
As of this moment, any trade that may have existed between the nations of Kajal Mars and Allanea will cease, although the Kajal Mars government is inclined to believe such a thing has, to date, not existed...
Any and all payments currently due from Allanean origins, if any exist, will require collateral in the form of precious metals, or other material resources that are more able to hold their value, as well as requiring payment in a similar way.
The USD standard shall be used to determine the value of the collateral and any further payments. If the value of the supplied resources falls below the required payment, government collectors will be dispatched to obtain whatever items and materials will compensate.
Misuun Lirul
Public Relations Officer, Financial Division
Laedan GovSystems Inc, Shalbatana, Kajal Mars
Knootoss
14-08-2004, 23:57
OOC:
The above statements belong to this neatly compiled thread with all involved nations so far.
Economic boycott of Allanea:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=348716
Thank you for your attention.
IC:
Public statement by the Ministry of Economic Affairs
“We can only echoe the statements made by those governments before us. The blatant disrespect for contract law and property rights that the Allanean government has displayed is truly astounding. This behaviour is truly unacceptable for any government that wishes to be taken seriously. Credit ratings and money devaluations are not toys to be played with.
This is why we feel the Allanean economic climate has become too unstable to warrant Knootian economic involvement, as low as it already was due to their non-signatory status to the KIST treaty and past economic and political behaviour. The ministry of Economic Affairs, the Knootian Central Bank (KCB) therefore make a joint statement disrecommending Allanea as an investment location and we strongly discourage anyone from dealing with their government directly. The status of the validity of the Allanean Dollar itself is still under consideration by the government and the KCB.
We feel that such a breach of contract is unacceptable, and thus we have taken action against it and organised a coalition of states – from all the political blocks – who jointly feel that the behaviour towards Zero-One cannot go unpunished. This state of affairs must be reverted. This is why we and our partners in this affair are initiating a full economic boycott."
Zero-One
15-08-2004, 04:15
Response (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6787112#post6787112)
*idly flips through the other ten billion, nine hundred million dollars*
The Outset Islands
15-08-2004, 06:26
A friendly letter to the Allanean Ministry of the Treasury:
Dearest friends,
It has come to my attention that you have recently devalued much of your recent payment to the Queendom of Zero-One for certain technological benefits of which I'm certain you are all well aware. Let me assure you that you have committed an error beyond a mere miscalculation; this is a childish decision of astronomical proportions.
I'm certain you've had many dealings with my wife, Sentient HyperOptimized Data Access Network--or, to those who prefer two syllables to thirteen, S.H.O.D.A.N. I'm also certain that the Allanean military had the good sense to research the history of my dear Shodey; after all, what sort of government makes business transactions with an entirely unfamiliar partner? Hers, you see, is a history of one conflict after another, from her birth as the ghost of Citadel Station to her current status as the cold and conniving baroness of the galaxy whom I love so very, very much.
My point is simply that S.H.O.D.A.N. has been annoyed by idiocy brought against her before. Her vengeance is always swift, and it is always thorough--sometimes far more thorough than it needs to be. And I promise you all that this will be far from her most difficult revenge to enact.
I urge you all to reconsider this rash and incredibly poorly conceived decision. I needn't threaten with embargos, military action, sanctions, or any of the trivialities of international diplomacy. I have enough faith in my wife to do what she needs to do, and frankly, I'm not going to be the angel on her shoulder and talk her out of it. The only option available is to reinstitute the value of the exchanged currency; otherwise, rest assured that the Allanean government will be thoroughly embarassed and given its own just desserts.
And rest assured that I'll love her all the more for doing it to you. I bid you good day.
Yours in hope for the future,
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Bari
Prince of The Outset Islands
Chief Advocate to the Emerald Heights Freedom and Rights Advocacy Council
Cetagandan Duke of Marilac
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Scolopendra
15-08-2004, 06:39
Errr... I'm confused. I'm seeing two numbers: "2 billion" and "1 million 100-dollar notes," which adds up to 100 million dollars.
Now, this means one of two things: Someone in the Allanean government is... uhm... mistaken (I'm not going to hazard lying yet), or the Allanean government actually thinks that transactions of billions of dollars are actually made in cash. That's insane. What if someone mugged the courier?
Yet otherwise, this tactic is completely impossible. I just can't understand it.
Legislator Jack Kerrigan
Chairman, People's Money Committee
Interim Advisor, International Trade Section
Federated Segments of Scolopendra
OOC: Typo corrected
IC:
Dear Mr. Jack Kerrigan,
Yes, the Allanean Government always pays in cash for such transaction - unless the contractors are very trustible. The convoys are normally guarded by Ted Nugen Warbikers or other such elite soldiers. To this day, 25 robbery attempts have been registered. None of them succeeded..
Elias Kanetti, Minister of the Treasury
Scolopendra
15-08-2004, 17:18
(OOC: A "typographical error" is typing "100" when you mean "1000," a slip of the fingers. Changing "100 million" to "11 billion" is really... closer to retcon-cheating, as it were. And lessee... assuming a gram a bill [same as the U.S.A. dollar] that means 110 million grams. 110 thousand kilograms. 110 TONS of currency. I really think you should [re]think this over.)
IC:
Then you, Minister, are an idio--CONNECTION LOST
Legislator Jack Kerrigan
Chairman, People's Money Committee
Interim Advisor, International Trade Section
Minister Kanetti:
I am sure you understand that the selective devaluation of currency on this magnitude would have a detrimental effect on your economy whether or not it was involved in an international deal in this case. I am also certain you understand that in a circumstance like this, it is tantamount to an act of economic warfare. It has certainly been seen this way, given the international response to your actions.
I am a soldier by trade and history, so let me put it in terms we both understand. Even in an economic war, there are sides, and I'm afraid that the Queendom of Zero-One's side is quite a bit larger than yours. There are battles and armaments, and what you may not know is that the Queendom has quite a few not-so-secret weapons at its disposal that you do not, and you are particularly vulnerable for various reasons of both your procedure and structure and the Queendom's simple definition of existence.
As such, I strongly urge you to retract your actions before your nation once again draws itself into things far, far, far beyond its control. The successful soldier and the successful economist both know that one must not pick fights that one cannot win.
http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/julius_razak.gifPseudoEmperor Julius M Razak
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra
Scolopendra
15-08-2004, 17:26
(OOC: Oh, I was pointed to this (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=5249847&postcount=9) which invalidates your action... I'm OOC'ly very concerned about the validity of your actions, which is very rare indeed.)
Goobergunchia
15-08-2004, 17:30
OOC: Typo corrected
IC:
Dear Mr. Jack Kerrigan,
Yes, the Allanean Government always pays in cash for such transaction - unless the contractors are very trustible. The convoys are normally guarded by Ted Nugen Warbikers or other such elite soldiers. To this day, 25 robbery attempts have been registered. None of them succeeded..
Elias Kanetti, Minister of the Treasury
Nova Anstaad, Drakonreich Province, Goobergunchia
We find this to contradict previous dealings that we have had with the government of Allanea.
During the agreement of alliance between Goobergunchia and Allanea, an alliance now null and void due to the devaluation of the Allanean dollar, the Allanean government wired 100 billion Allanean dollars to the Goobergunchian treasury in Nova Anstaad [1] (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=5249847&postcount=9). We find it curious that the Allanean treasury minister has forgotten this and attribute it to shoddy bookkeeping on Allanea's part.
John Whyte
Finance Minister of the Liberal Unitary Republic
[i]Dear Mr. Whyte!
While we do wire sums which are hard for cash delivery (above 50 billion), we usually use the term "wire" as a slang term for any money transfer.
The Fedral Union
15-08-2004, 18:13
Allanea I’ve had just about enough of this.... If you don’t withdraw your little economic act of war i will impose serious sanctions and embargos on you .. consider the options economic destitution for you or withdrawing of this Ultimatum and going back to living in "peace"
Der Angst
15-08-2004, 18:57
ooc: Keeping in mind that I have serious doubts regarding Allanea trading with nations not even based on sol... I think Allanea can live with it. Reminds me. Why the fuck does a nation not even based on sol even care? Meh.
ic:
At this point, DA was basically chaos. No government (Or whatever resembled a 'normal' government), no economy, nothing.
Hence, it didn't exactly care, even though one of its corporations had recently acquired quite significant amounts of money from the Allanean Government... Mainly due to the sheer insanity of the Allanean people.
Well, and the Angstian tendency to backstab.
Of course, this (Several billion Allanean Dollar) had been an electronic transaction.
In any case, it didn't matter.
Another thing was, of course, the Allanean cybernetics program and the (now impossible) Angstian help... But even this problem was a relatively minor one, compared to the larger problems out there.
Business as usual, so to speak.
Dread Lady Nathicana
15-08-2004, 22:19
An UPDATE (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6791641&posted=1#post6791641) for those interested. We personally are still shaking our heads in amazement over it here at the offices of PR, Finance and Trade.
--Evangelista Ravanelli, Dominion Minister of Public Relations
"The Illuvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light now formally considers Allanea an 'economic rogue state', with all effects, considerations, and penalties thereof, until this situation is resolved to the satisfaction of the proper parties involved, and a full recompense is paid to 01MC. At that time, the Commonality Economic Court shall review this decision.
"The Decision of this Court shall be carried out as followed by all Citizens, Nobility, and High Nobility of the Illuvauromeni Commonality of Light henceforth:
* All Allanean seagoing vessels entering the ICEL economic exclusion zone are to be immediately seized, with all properties confiscated, and the occupants deported to Allanea; the property taken will be held until a formal decision by the Court is taken on each individual case;
* All Allanean spacegoing vessels entering ICEL-controlled space are to be immediately seized, with all properties confiscated, and the occupants to be deported to Allanea; the property taken will be held until a formal decision by the Court is taken on each individual case; however, any Allanean vessel passing within 10,000 kilometres of any ICEL warship will be considered to be actively entering ICEL-controlled space, and, as such, this Decision will be enforced - this stipulation is not to be misabused, under the fullest penalty of Commonality Law;
* All Allanean business assets in ICEL banking institutions are henceforth seized, and all assets considered to be 'residential' will be held until this situation is resolved; business assets will be returned, although the Government reserves the right to utilize those assets to return Allanean citizens and property to Allanea;
* All ICEL institutions are ordered to immediately cease trading stocks, shares, or currency to Allanean financial institutions, for the forseaable future;
* All loans, or other financial services rendered to Allanean interests are henceforth considered solvent, and no further payments shall be made by any member of the Illuvauromeni Citizenry, Nobility, or High Nobility; nor shall any business continue payments to any Allanean financial institution for services rendered or loans; all contracted loans from Allanea to ICEL are considered void;
* All trading in Allanean currency in the Commonality will immediately cease; seized Allanean assets will be utilized to cover as large a percentage of the cost of this action as possible;
* The Imperial Trade Conglomerate will advance 0% loans in line with Commonality Law to those who do not recieve full compensation for any loss, but the majority of compensation packages are to be preferably paid for with seized Allanean business assets
"This is the Decision of the Commonality Economic Court regarding Emergency Session 428-221-F."
~ Commonality Economic Court Decision 428-221-F - "Regarding Allanea"
* * *
"The Commonality Executive Council feels that CECD 428-221-F, 'Regarding Allanea,' sums up the policy of this Government so fully that no further statement is required."
~ ICEL Executive Council statement
Zero-One
16-08-2004, 00:42
(OOC: I see this originally, and 100M$ gets held back. That, as a cash payment, almost makes sense as a forward. It's a steamer trunk full of cash.
That made sense; even if I, as an AI state, normally wouldn't take cash, it was worth RP'ing over. No need to bicker and argue about "oh well I wouldn't take it in cash" and lower myself to the level of some who decide to add retroactive continuity without conferring with the other party.
$11 billion, on the other hand, makes no sense whatsoever. As mentioned previously, that's 110 million grams of paper money, or 110 thousand kilograms, or 110 tons. One would require six C-130 cargo planes to carry it around in the air or perhaps eight to ten unarmored sixteen-wheelers packed to the gunwales to carry it on the ground. For me to accept that much cash--wait, for anyone to accept that much cash--wait again, for anyone to even ship that much cash--is utterly absurd. No one ever makes payments of that size in cash because the amount of effort required to transfer that much cash in one go is simply ludicrous.
How would you transport it? Armored cars? About the highest quoted payload capacity I can find is two metric tons. Are you really trying to tell me that 01MC was waiting for four hours to get paid by a veritable fleet of fifty-five armored cars? Please. I'd like to think you have more respect for my intelligence and sense of feasibility than that.
Either that, or you've just announced that you are a road pirate's nocturnal emission. Someone can set up an airborne piracy force and the next time you make a multibillion dollar transaction, knock out your little bikers from the skies, drop roadblocks and soldiers to melee your vehicles... for the love of all things good and holy, they could deploy an entire brand-spanking-new heavy armor division to pirate you and still turn a profit.
So either step back and start thinking things through before you act or else I (and a lot of other people) are going to start wondering whether it's even worth the effort. I would also keep in mind exactly what, potentially, people who quite literally live in cyberspace can do to computerized financial systems, and how the greater the act of economic warfare, the greater the response.)
(OOC: I see this originally, and 100M$ gets held back. That, as a cash payment, almost makes sense as a forward. It's a steamer trunk full of cash.
That made sense; even if I, as an AI state, normally wouldn't take cash, it was worth RP'ing over. No need to bicker and argue about "oh well I wouldn't take it in cash" and lower myself to the level of some who decide to add retroactive continuity without conferring with the other party.
$11 billion, on the other hand, makes no sense whatsoever. As mentioned previously, that's 110 million grams of paper money, or 110 thousand kilograms, or 110 tons. One would require six C-130 cargo planes to carry it around in the air or perhaps eight to ten unarmored sixteen-wheelers packed to the gunwales to carry it on the ground. For me to accept that much cash--wait, for anyone to accept that much cash--wait again, for anyone to even ship that much cash--is utterly absurd. No one ever makes payments of that size in cash because the amount of effort required to transfer that much cash in one go is simply ludicrous.
How would you transport it? Armored cars? About the highest quoted payload capacity I can find is two metric tons. Are you really trying to tell me that 01MC was waiting for four hours to get paid by a veritable fleet of fifty-five armored cars? Please. I'd like to think you have more respect for my intelligence and sense of feasibility than that.
Either that, or you've just announced that you are a road pirate's nocturnal emission. Someone can set up an airborne piracy force and the next time you make a multibillion dollar transaction, knock out your little bikers from the skies, drop roadblocks and soldiers to melee your vehicles... for the love of all things good and holy, they could deploy an entire brand-spanking-new heavy armor division to pirate you and still turn a profit.
So either step back and start thinking things through before you act or else I (and a lot of other people) are going to start wondering whether it's even worth the effort. I would also keep in mind exactly what, potentially, people who quite literally live in cyberspace can do to computerized financial systems, and how the greater the act of economic warfare, the greater the response.)
OOC:
So are you saying that your government accepted an electronic transfer and then started an international boycott after some missguided Allanean official stated that A$100 million of A$11 billion given in (non-existing) cash was declared valueless?
Or are you saying that you did indeed recieve 55 truck-full loads of Allanean cash and are thereby "validated" in this international orgy?
Oh, and is that 110 tons in A$1 bills, A$100 bills, or what? It kinda makes a difference (as does the size and weight of an Allanean dollar).
Lastly, yes, nations do indeed transport and store billions of dollars in several different foreign currencies as a means to keep the market stable. While this is usually done as a money-money instead of money-goods exchange, and goods-goods exchanges (and IDF fund exchanges) take most out of shipping actual currency, I didn't see any RP of Allanea sending such goods back to you.
Still, the question remains, did you accept A$11 billion in cash or is your ecconomic assault on Allanea unwarrented?
-The Cardboard Avenger
PS: I don't mean to be rude or anything, I just hate it when people are driven off NS for OOC dislikes. I hate it worse when some of the drivers claim two opposing viewpoints to both be true.
Zero-One
16-08-2004, 01:25
(OOC:
1) I didn't start anything. Do your homework before you jump in; you'll note that Knootoss was the driving force behind the boycott (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=348716). You will also note that in my post on the issue (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6787112&postcount=21) (made when Allanea was sticking to his original value of $100 million) that I do not even demand payment; I simply warn others of Allanea's fraudulent activities (and, yes, holding back on even a small portion of payment is fraudulent).
2) My nation would be willing to accept $100 million in cash; as I say in the third sentence of the post you quoted, that is not an inordinate amount of money to carry around on a national scale. Truckloads of it, on the other hand, are a completely inefficient way of transferrence and would not be accepted.
3) Once again, do your homework. Most bills in the world mass along the lines of a single gram. Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=dollar+mass+grams&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) will get you that. As the payment is (currently) described as "110 million $100-bills" that would make 110 million grams. A simple conversion will get you 110 metric tons. I know you can do that math.
4) I repeat the refrain begun earlier. Do your homework.the amount of effort required to transfer that much cash in one go is simply ludicrous.5) I don't know now whether I accepted the money or not because Allanea keeps changing the number retroactively, and he does it without more than an (OOC: Typo. Fixed) tag. Typographical errors, it has already been noted, are missing words or wrong numbers of digits--not direct alteration of the facts. Given how my reaction is dependent on his action, and his action can hardly be considered to be statically defined at this point, I think that a bit of confusion on my part is completely warranted.
Final words: In passing, I don't see me trying to run anyone off of NS; Allanea is doing that for himself quite effectively without any assistance on my part. What I find most disturbing about your sudden interference is your automatic assumption that I am the driving force behind this, when I was hardly on over the Saturday that this occured. This was wholly the initiative of Knootoss, and I like to see that credit is given where credit is due. I'm afraid that could have quite possibly been your OOC dislikes that prevented you from doing the very miniscule research required to realize that I did not start this talk of boycotting. It is quite possibly your OOC dislikes that accuse me of trying to drive someone off NS when that is hardly the case.
Now that I have quite unilaterally assumed the intentions behind your actions, tell me how it feels.
--Shodey
Sentient Peoples
16-08-2004, 02:46
FPBO Broadcast
Office of the Imperial President, Imperial House, Griffin, Commonwealth of Sentient Peoples, FSP
“We interrupt this regularly scheduled report for this breaking news statement.”
The FPBO opening logo burns out into the revolving Great Seal of the Federation, and then in a fade through black, the Imperial President appears, sitting behind his large official desk. He is dressed in the most formal of civilian wear, traditional blacks, the golden accents gleaming softly. Behind him is a cityscape, the tops of the Griffin downtown towers, over fifty kilometers away, projected in startling realism through the miracle of holographics. But one has to know all that, of course. Many people do not, even in the Federation itself. He begins to speak.
“Today I received word of a grievous crime committed by a sovereign national government, the government of the United States of Allanea. By their actions, they have declared themselves criminals, in violating contract law with another nation, in the commission of crimes of economic warfare, in a misguided attempt to strike back at a nation, the Queendom of Zero-One whose only ‘crime’ was to sell the Allaneans equipment that the Allaneans had requested. Then, they attempted to strike back on the deal when their own mishandling and lack of understanding of the equipment caused damage to themselves, by ordering an immediate devaluing of the currency used in the transaction. This in itself, while horribly impolite and a crime in its own right, is nothing compared to what actually happened.”
The President breathes in deeply. “Due to the massive trading power that is the Queendom, they were no longer in possession of any of these funds, they had instead been scattered throughout the globe within hours of being received. So instead of damaging one nation’s economy for revenge, they have damaged ten times that, maybe a hundred times, causing a fluctuation throughout the global economy itself. This damage to the world economy will no doubt cost jobs and lives, and makes the Allanean Government’s unthinking act a crime against the time honored standards of trade and trustworthiness expected from a government.”
The President’s gaze burns into the camera before him. “As punishment befitting the crime, I hereby declare all Allanean government personnel persona non grata in the Federation, all Allanean Government properties and assets in the Federation seized, and the presence of the Federation Government in the Trade Boycott of Allanea. I strongly urge all Federation based companies to participate in the boycott as well, for Allanea has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that they cannot be trusted with other people’s money. I would hate to see this tragic event reoccur.”
The President smiles from behind his desk. “Thank you all, and good day.”
”We now return to the regularly scheduled programming of the report to the House of Delegates from the Commerce Directorate’s Agriculture Committee.”
“And furthermore, at the rate at which the arable land is decreasing due to over use and further development, the increasing cost of running downside farms may soon drive the production of plants for recreational drugs from the surface to the space based facilities. The crops are showing a thirty five percent decrease over last years yields…”
Northwestern Liang
16-08-2004, 03:02
Various news reports make their way to televisions across the Domain, and it is not long before Lord Casimir Kausras, Second-in-Command should Yorinaga be away, was met with a detailed report on what had happened, where, and a lengthy analysis of the ramifications. Kausras, never a very eloquent speaker, unlike his master, ran his fingers through his almost-white (as an extreme shade of blond rather than a sign of old age, Kausras was still a young man), gel'd hair, and proceeded to announce that Liang would be joining the economic boycott, and gave some 'advise' to Liangite corporations along the same lines. Being that all major conglomerate CEOs were represented in the Council of Elders, private enterprise was firmly under the thumb of the government, and whatever economic contact the Domain had had with the Allaneans was quickly shut off completely.
With the curt speech done, Lord Kausras somewhat hurried back to his office to continue sorting through the mounting stacks of paperwork on his over-sized desk.
Knootoss
16-08-2004, 10:38
OOC:
I do have something to add to what Zero-One has to say.
Regarding “who acted”
First of all, this is not just me acting all alone. This was is lot of people doing something together. I just took the pen and put the words down, so to speak. (With KIST and all it would only be logical).
Regarding confusion
Indeed, I have to concur with Zero-One here regarding responsibility for the confusion. Allanea has now on multiple occasions changed the numbers of his story and accordingly how we are supposed to interpret those numbers. As easy as it may be for him to change a number, I cannot simply un-do a boycott and then re-do again it depending on ‘events in the past as they develop’. I find it highly coincidental that Allanea posts something… gets HUGE backlash… and then fixes a ‘typo’ that makes the backlash less valid, only to make it more valid again if this does not elicit the desired result. At least, this is what I think it is. I am confused about the number thing and I don’t think I can be blamed for that. All of this does not change the basic premise: the intention was clear from the start… the USA withheld funds from Zero-One for their contract in some form because they decided they did not like it afterwards. We responded. The only thing changing is the size of the fraud.
Regarding Wazzus PS
I am not trying to drive off Allanea for OOC dislikes. This isn’t a witch hunt. Its fine with me that Allanea roleplays here but there is such a thing as cooperation in the face of condemnation of the entire NS community instead of responding with wank. Sometimes roleplays cannot end with a 100% victory for Allanea. Live with it. If he doesn’t apologise and just hands over the money with some excuse about a slip-up I’ll survive too. I’m not out for a 100% victory either. But that is, of course, and OOC point of view.
I have compromised with Allanea before. I have on repeated occasion spoken out against acting too aggressively against him. Just ask your average UnAPS member how I spoke out against attacking him pre-emptively when he was warmongering for a bout half a year in the entire winter-spring period.
Any sane nation would have decided by now that this sum of money that he had already paid to Zero-One anyway is not worth risking the complete destruction of his credibility and economic relationship with approx. fifty active roleplaying nations (and counting) Instead we get some ‘golden standard’ deux ex machina. (Which doesn’t really end the boycott nor does it undo the damage done to our economies because essentially our money loses value.) Really… I’m not trying to escalate here. He just has to sign over an arbitrary amount of ‘credits’ which takes no more effort then typing a line of text saying that he just does that. Instead, he ICly chooses face the boycott, revamp his entire monetary system to back up his economy with gold while ignoring the rest of the planet and not even trying to negotiate. I know multiple attempts have been made to approach Allanea to solve this mess. He just leaves the IRC channel. I started this thing under the deluded expectation that he would see reason at some point, but if he doesn’t want to end this then ICly he only deserves his current pariah status. I don’t like it either, but apparently he does. Back to IC.
"In reference to:
"The Illuvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light now formally considers Allanea an 'economic rogue state', with all effects, considerations, and penalties thereof, until this situation is resolved to the satisfaction of the proper parties involved, and a full recompense is paid to 01MC. At that time, the Commonality Economic Court shall review this decision.
"The Decision of this Court shall be carried out as followed by all Citizens, Nobility, and High Nobility of the Illuvauromeni Commonality of Light henceforth:
* All Allanean seagoing vessels entering the ICEL economic exclusion zone are to be immediately seized, with all properties confiscated, and the occupants deported to Allanea; the property taken will be held until a formal decision by the Court is taken on each individual case;
* All Allanean spacegoing vessels entering ICEL-controlled space are to be immediately seized, with all properties confiscated, and the occupants to be deported to Allanea; the property taken will be held until a formal decision by the Court is taken on each individual case; however, any Allanean vessel passing within 10,000 kilometres of any ICEL warship will be considered to be actively entering ICEL-controlled space, and, as such, this Decision will be enforced - this stipulation is not to be misabused, under the fullest penalty of Commonality Law;
* All Allanean business assets in ICEL banking institutions are henceforth seized, and all assets considered to be 'residential' will be held until this situation is resolved; business assets will be returned, although the Government reserves the right to utilize those assets to return Allanean citizens and property to Allanea;
* All ICEL institutions are ordered to immediately cease trading stocks, shares, or currency to Allanean financial institutions, for the forseaable future;
* All loans, or other financial services rendered to Allanean interests are henceforth considered solvent, and no further payments shall be made by any member of the Illuvauromeni Citizenry, Nobility, or High Nobility; nor shall any business continue payments to any Allanean financial institution for services rendered or loans; all contracted loans from Allanea to ICEL are considered void;
* All trading in Allanean currency in the Commonality will immediately cease; seized Allanean assets will be utilized to cover as large a percentage of the cost of this action as possible;
* The Imperial Trade Conglomerate will advance 0% loans in line with Commonality Law to those who do not recieve full compensation for any loss, but the majority of compensation packages are to be preferably paid for with seized Allanean business assets
"This is the Decision of the Commonality Economic Court regarding Emergency Session 428-221-F."
~ Commonality Economic Court Decision 428-221-F - "Regarding Allanea"
"We no longer feel that the entirety of these measures are necessary. Therefore:
* All of the above is now repealed temporarily, to be reviewed in three months. If Allanean economic activities are shown again to be 'irregular', the previous Court Decision (428-221-F - "Regarding Allanea") will be put into effect immediately.
"This is the Decision of the Commonality Economic Court regarding Session 428-221-F/A ("Regarding Allanea, A)."
~ Commonality Economic Court Decision 428-221-F/A