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Calling all Anti-Catholic Nations/Supercorporations (THIS IS OOC!!!!)

Derscon
02-08-2004, 00:58
THIS IS AN OUT-OF-CHARACTER-ish POST

Okay, I have been thinking of this for awhile.

After pondering this for about a month (and reading Angels and Demons five times), I am calling for a resurrection of the Illuminati.

This is what the Illuminati's goals are:

1) The uniting of the brightest minds across the globe to stop the Catholic oppression of science

2) The Infiltration of banks, corporations, and governments to gain money and power

3) The total destruction of the Vatican

REMINDER-THIS IS AN OOC POST

The Illuminati will not be a coilition of nations, but rather important people in nations/megacorporations/corporations/scientists gathering to stop the Papal oppression and blasphemy.
Kamphstadt
02-08-2004, 01:04
Interesting thought. Go for it.
Imitora
02-08-2004, 01:57
OOC: Definately count me in on this one. Even though Imitora is a Catholic nation (were talking pre Vatican I, Spanish Inquisition, all Mass is in Latin type Catholic), I know many people in my nation would find this very intresting.
Oceania Airstrip 1
02-08-2004, 02:05
I always thought the illuminatii were a Catholic organisation dedicated to world domination. I really don't know anything about them (No one really does) Why call an anti religious organisation Illuminatii. Why not call is Project anti neo Eden.

"Religion is the opium of the masses."
Aerion
02-08-2004, 02:09
Actually the Illuminati is beginning to be conceived as rather the way described here, as a global conspiracy theory, and the Vatican is its own power faction separate from the Illuminati since the Illuminati and Freemasonry are often connected, which the Catholics have condemned Freemasonry (presumably now explained in Angels and DemonsI think or the DaVinci Code as because the Illuminati managed to infilitrate the highest levels of Freemasonry).
Derscon
02-08-2004, 23:07
Okay. Remember -- the Illuminati is not an alliance, it is a secret society, headed by people of major importance, such as world leaders (VP's, Ministers, Department heads, Head of States, Congressmen, Generals, etc.), major VIP's (corporation owners, mostly), and SCIENTISTS.

Imiorta, if you could, give me a list of people that might be a member of the Illuminati.

Also, a Dersconi will be the Grand Master of the Illuminati. You will never get to know who, though!! :D
Soku
02-08-2004, 23:48
An interesting thought... It would be a shame to have a group intent on destroying one of the most secretive places in the world without someone in Soku's hierarchy in it. *ponders*
Chellis
03-08-2004, 00:01
On II, I already carpet bombed and leveled the vatican, just as a heads up.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 00:45
On II, I already carpet bombed and leveled the vatican, just as a heads up.


link?
Ketosis
03-08-2004, 00:54
pleanty of people in my nation would be interested in this.
Teritora
03-08-2004, 01:12
Hmm, I figured something like this would come up, it was only an matter of time as theres already an alliance of catholic nations that some evil organization would be in the works sooner or later.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 01:32
Actually, the Illuminati was founded by Galileo Galilei (sp?), and he thought that both science and religion sought the same thing. THe Catholic church didn't believe that. Galileo then united the brightest minds in Europe to counter the Catholic Church.
Teritora
03-08-2004, 01:56
Ah, but still Papal oppression and attacks on science? sounds like this organization would be living in an pre twentieth century world with some crazied geniuses in it.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 02:03
Okay, you know what?

Fine.

I want the Illuminati founded to finally and totally destroy the Catholic Church.

Not only for its attempted monopoly of the Truth, but for its dogmatic and blasphemic practices.
Teritora
03-08-2004, 02:06
Hmm, I am not saying it wouldn't be interesting especially to go up against. Nice Cloak and Dagger RPing. dogmatic and blasphemic practices?*Shrugs*
Derscon
03-08-2004, 02:09
You wanna join up?

Or do you want to try and fight it?
Teritora
03-08-2004, 02:15
Fighting it of course. Teritora National, social and cultural view point would see it as an evil secret organization out to destroy their faith.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 02:18
Okay, so be it. Of course, you would have no idea it existed until it was decided that the Final Revenge would be executed.
Teritora
03-08-2004, 02:31
Unless an mistake is made by said evil organization like approaching the wrong person for recruitment, some lone indival nobody will belive gets wind of said organization and attempts to stop it himself and other things that can go wrong but what ever happens should be intresting in this AU setting.
East Coast Federation
03-08-2004, 02:35
On II, I already carpet bombed and leveled the vatican, just as a heads up.

OCC: Your a stupid moron.
Why would you bomb a defenseless and peaceful nation?
Derscon
03-08-2004, 03:50
Recruitment into the Illuminati was as goes....

Under house arrest, Galileo published three documents, all beginning with "D".

As you may know, the "sacred" Illuminati number is 503. 503 actually refers to the roman rumeral, DIII. This roman numeral actually refers to his third publication, Diagramma. If you know where to look, there is a poem, written in English along the margins of one page, writtem by the person who wrote "Paradise Lost." This tells you where the First Alter of Science is. From there, four statues(made by Bernini, an Illuminatus) will point you 'cross the city of Rome (including the Vatican), and eventually to the Illuminati Lair.

Recruitment will be done the same way. Obtain a copy of Diagramma, find the poem, and look around.

People (ICly) will not just go and say "do you want to join the Illuminati?" Instead, they will find a letter, marked with no return address, with only one message:
=======================================

http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/isyed/All-Seeing-Eye.jpg

503

========================================
In which case, that will be the final contact.
Hattia
03-08-2004, 03:57
Hmm, this seems like quite an interesting idea. We don't much hate catholicism, but there are quite a few individuals that hate religion and who wouldn't mind seeing the Catholic church collapse...
Chellis
03-08-2004, 04:38
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341242&highlight=Chellis

I bombed it in the last pages. Read the whole thing, hardly a peaceful nation.

Though nobody in my nation was sad, a couple thousand catholics were dead, and countless religious artifacts. All in a days work.
Aerion
03-08-2004, 04:39
You bombed /that/ Vatican, most people in the NS thread recognize the Holy Vatican See as the "Vatican", and most Catholic nations recognize Holy Vatican See as having true authority. There have already been several threads concerning it.
Chellis
03-08-2004, 04:45
You bombed /that/ Vatican, most people in the NS thread recognize the Holy Vatican See as the "Vatican", and most Catholic nations recognize Holy Vatican See as having true authority. There have already been several threads concerning it.

On Nationstates board, maybe.

Dont insult my intelligence, I think I know a bit more about NS than you.

There was a reason I said on II.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 05:08
Chellis, none of that, please.
Chellis
03-08-2004, 05:11
Chellis, none of that, please.

None of what? lol

I dislike people calling me an idiot, etc.
Agrigento
03-08-2004, 05:13
Well, while I agree that Holy Vatican See is the most prominent, and perhaps accurate version of the Vatican, the Catholic Church of Agrigento usually RPs the Vatican as an NPC and has very little contact with it. While this does indeed sound like an interesting RP with great potential it should be noted that its effect on the NS world would be next to nothing. Overall though it seems fun, and goodluck with it.
Undecidedterritory
03-08-2004, 05:20
first off i am not a catholic. i am of the methodist religion. but i am astonished that for all of the liberal feel good hippism that shows up in these postings and UN resolutions you all certainly hate freedom! you hate freedom of speech and religion. pardon the pun, but as far as i am concerned, you can all burn in h.......no i wont say that. just remember, freedom is good.
Chellis
03-08-2004, 05:24
first off i am not a catholic. i am of the methodist religion. but i am astonished that for all of the liberal feel good hippism that shows up in these postings and UN resolutions you all certainly hate freedom! you hate freedom of speech and religion. pardon the pun, but as far as i am concerned, you can all burn in h.......no i wont say that. just remember, freedom is good.

Who restricts freedom?

Freedom of religion leads to many lies
Freedom of speech leads to lies as well
Democracy leads to bad choices by the uninformed masses

As orwell put it, Freedom is slavery.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 15:13
first off i am not a catholic. i am of the methodist religion. but i am astonished that for all of the liberal feel good hippism that shows up in these postings and UN resolutions you all certainly hate freedom! you hate freedom of speech and religion. pardon the pun, but as far as i am concerned, you can all burn in h.......no i wont say that. just remember, freedom is good.


Okay....

I, personally, am a Protestant, and dislike Catholism (not catholics, just the religion). The Illuminati is for RP perposes -- I actually do not believe that an organization should go out and bomb Catholism.

Relax.
Jeruselem
03-08-2004, 15:54
IC
An unholy TAG

OOC
Speaking of the Illuminati, I wonder why US had 13 states originally for Christian nation? Weird.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 16:22
The thirteen colonies. It would be too much of a pain to re-do the borders. There were thirteen colonies, so they just had thirteen states.

How about the reverse of the Great Seal? NOTHING there deals with AMERICA itself.
Chellis
03-08-2004, 19:30
The thirteen colonies. It would be too much of a pain to re-do the borders. There were thirteen colonies, so they just had thirteen states.

How about the reverse of the Great Seal? NOTHING there deals with AMERICA itself.

They split north and south carolina pretty easily...

Could have split Virginia or something. Or merged the carolinas back, splitting them was kinda dumb.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 19:43
True. Eventually, obviously, they did split Virginia.

Oh well. Some questions will just be left unanswered.
Chellis
04-08-2004, 08:01
They split virginia?

when?
The Resi Corporation
04-08-2004, 08:23
Didn't you already make a thread like this?

Oh, and I'm still joining. You better have a good idea of what you're doing, though.
Remember, what works for the Illuminati in the real world may not work for the NS Illuminati.