NationStates Jolt Archive


Your Nation's standard-issue Sidearm?

Roycelandia
26-07-2004, 14:48
There are countless threads detailing the standard Infantry Weapon of each Nation, but what about the Handguns?

Roycelandian combat experience, a lot of it in the jungles of Roycelandian East Africa, has proven the value of handguns time and time again.

All Officers in the Imperial and Colonial Guard are issued with the Colonial Small Arms "Tiger" revolver. Briefly:

Calibre: .357 Magnum/12 Gauge
Magazine Capacity: 8 shots .357 Magnum, 1 shot 12 gauge shotgun
Range: 100 yards

Basically a modern version of the Le Mat revolver, the Tiger is a powerful and reliable handgun, with a handy shotgun barrel mounted under the main barrel.

Soldiers are free to carry whatever sidearms they wish, and a recent survery showed the following handguns to be the most popular:

1. Colt M1991A1 .45 Auto
2. Webley Mk VI .455 Revolver
3. Browning Hi-Power 9mm Auto
4. Nagant M1895 7.62 Revolver
5. IMI Desert Eagle .357 Magnum Auto
Phalanix
26-07-2004, 14:55
The most comon used side arm in Phalanix is the M8D Semi-Auto .357 Magnum. It's clip holds a good 10 shots and it has a built in 2x zoom. It has a range of up to 350 meters but pilots rather carrying a MXD Plasma Pistol that has a battery with 100 charges. It's range s greatly shorter though decreased by 200 meters and it is prone to heat up and require a cool-down time. Even with it's flaws the MXD is more reliable in a survival suituation (making it easy to start fires with it's super heated burts o during a cool down period.)
North Koreastan
26-07-2004, 15:09
The issue handgun for the PRNK is the Makarov pistol. This is issued to officers and the Elite Spetsnaz Operational Group.
Jeruselem
26-07-2004, 15:15
The Baldwin 7-A, a local copy of the Nazi Walther PP series. It uses standard 9 MM ammo but can use some special rounds banned by the UN developed locally. The 7-B is a semi-auto version and the 8-A is really just a Walther PPK.

However we use any 9mm weapon as long as it's servicable. Useless guns get recycled into scrap metal.
Dregruk
26-07-2004, 15:33
While Police forces use a standard Berretta M92F, Glock 17 or a SPAS-12 Combat Shotgun, the Armed Forces tend to lean towards something with a little more kick.

Hence, all soldiers are issued with the MAD-DOG .44 Triple Barreled "Dinosaur Stopper". This beast of a gun fires a specially designed .44 Magnum round from one barrel at a time or all three at once. The magazine holds 12 rounds, each one more than capable of tearing a lightly armoured vehicle to shreds. Special ammo is issued to crack squads, such as explosive rounds, AP rounds, incendiary rounds or the .44 "Glopper" special (Which contains a nasty mix of toxins and radioactive waste).
Starblaydia
26-07-2004, 15:50
The H&K Expert. Simple, yet effective.
The Golden Simatar
26-07-2004, 15:57
The standard sidearm in The Golden Simatar Armed Forces is the Para Ordnance P14 in .45, but now the standard side arm has been going to the Sig-Sauer P220 for military and law enforcment. GSIP and GSIB agents are allowed to use the Sig or purchase thier own firearm.
Vollmeria
26-07-2004, 16:09
Five seveN(5.7mm, same as the P90) and FNGP(9mm).
Weyr
26-07-2004, 16:15
High Guard standard issue . . . depends. Most people bring in their own weapons, which range from regular Colt 45's to modern sub-etheric EM handguns.

Sub-etheric: an object/being located between the etheric plane and the mundane plane of existance. Sub-etheric weapons fire shells that are pure thaumaturgic energy, allowing them to destroy non-physical things as well as kill regular humans. Standard rules of forces still apply.

the High Guard preffers the
model: EM-12C
firing: semi-automatic
type: 12mm Sub-etheric
cartrige: 10-round
range: 300m max | 250m range effective
Speed: N/A
AP: 5cm of steel at 30 meters
Silencer: none
Baccardi
26-07-2004, 18:00
My Nation uses the Glock .28, Austrian made automatic hand gun. 8 shot magizine,nice range and very conceible because of it's size. We also use the other glocks from the .351 series
Uncle Noel
26-07-2004, 18:26
Uncle Noel agrees with many of the soldiers of Roycelandia since his armed forces are also issued with the Webley Mk VI .455 Revolver. Old, yes but it has tremendous stopping power.
Maniaca
26-07-2004, 18:26
Baretta 92 FS.
Unified West Africa
26-07-2004, 18:50
The UWA uses a domestically designed handgun known as the Fanal 880. A simple, reliable weapon, the Fanal utilizes the 7.62 x 25mm round common in Soviet small arms and submachine guns. This makes ammunition standarization somewhat easier as most guns used in the Federation are of the 7.62 variety, and are interchangeable with submachine guns. Because of the country's lack of advanced industrial processes, locally manufactured guns have to be simple and easy to produce, making Soviet arms or copies there of prefered.
New Kingman
26-07-2004, 19:16
The standard issue firearm of all military branches is the HK USP .40.

http://www.hkpro.com/usp40brass.jpg
Bergund
26-07-2004, 20:05
Enlisted soldiers and NCOs are equipped with the Arcus 94.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/arcus-94_r.jpg

Type: Single Action.
Chamber: 9x19mm Luger / Parabellum.
Weight unloaded: 970 g.
Length: 203 mm.
Barrel length: 118.5 mm.
Capacity: 13 rounds.

Officers are equipped with the Arcus 98 DA.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/arcus-98da.jpg

Type: Double Action.
Chamber: 9x19mm Luger / Parabellum.
Weight unloaded: 950 g.
Length: 203 mm.
Barrel length: 118.5 mm.
Capacity: 15 rounds.
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 20:35
Hk Usp .40
Tom Joad
26-07-2004, 22:43
The weapon of choice of SO19 and the armed forces is the venerable SigSauer P226 in 9x19mm.
Five Civilized Nations
26-07-2004, 22:46
H&K SR9 Sniper Rifle
New Empire
26-07-2004, 22:48
Uhh... FCN? You use a sniper rifle as a sidearm?

You know the sidearms of all nations in RL are pistols, right?

Anyway, in NE, it's the M17 Advanced Personal Weapon.

"M-17 APW

A pistol packing a 10mm or 5.7mm punch. While the 5.7mm seems pathetic compared to the 10mm, it's more effective against body armor. 15 and 30 round magazines, respectively, are standard issue, although longer ones have appeared. Semi auto and burst firing modes come standard, but Special forces troops may opt for full auto. A surpressor and a variety of laser sights and flashlights can be used."

freewebs.com/netech/groundtechnology.htm for a picture.
Five Civilized Nations
26-07-2004, 22:53
I know, it was a joke... At least a bad attempt at one... :headbang:

We really use the H&K USP handgun...
Ermor
26-07-2004, 23:08
(OOC: The most used "sidearm" (or more like the main weapon) in Ermor is the rusty sword. FEAR THE RISK OF INFECTION WHEN YOU RUN OVER AN ARMY OF SKELETONS WITH A TANK!)
Roycelandia
27-07-2004, 07:58
OOC: The Underbarrel shotgun on the Tiger Revolver has been found to be particularly effective in despatching the Undead, Wild Animals, birds, and enemy soldiers in close combat...
Pantocratoria
27-07-2004, 08:35
Pantocratoria has stuck with the standard issue sidearm of the British Military revolver.
Teritora
27-07-2004, 08:47
Teritoran soldiers don't just carry one main side arm. Your typical soldier in Teritora carries what at least every citzen carries besides any other weapons, an sword, the type depends on what social class they came from; an long dagger; an pair of throwing daggers and an mercy dagger; they also carries an sound surpressed T-7 9mm pistol which is standard miltary issue.
Carlemnaria
27-07-2004, 10:08
as many of you already know carlemnaria neither manufactures nor imports balistic projectile ordinance

we do however carry about our persons several interesting items which generaly obviate the nead for lethal force

quite common are bracers of stun, which when activated can
render an asailant harmlessly unconscous almost instantly
these are worn on the wrists and resemble nothing more then ordinary bracelets. there are several optional ways of aiming and actuating them.

another is what is commonly refered to as a staff of themnax.
this multifunction object resembles nothing so much as an ordinary walking stick but is in reality so much more.
not a 'magical' device (for which it is sometimes mystaken)
but merely a tecnological one.
among its capabilities are the ablation and deflection of metalic projectiles in flight, a source of light in the
darkness and a handy means of starting campfires.
it can also be used as and ordinary singlestic or quarters staff, and indeed makes a fine and excellen walking stick.

this are standard issue items for anyone taking their turn at internal security and may also be possessed by any law
abiding private citizen. (all law abiding adults in their prime are trained to and take their turns at internal security)

there are of course very few laws needing of being enforced however. scaled up and vehicularly mounted versions of these
tecnologies may be quickly pressed into service at need
thus obviating any requirement for standing armies or military
chains of command.

the belt of xendu enabling anyone to communicate psionicly eliminates any need for centralized command and control and
thus the vulnerability of having one as a potential target
is also eliminated.

like the swis army of legend, if an army outnumbers our entire population two to one, we'll just have to shoot twice

except we'll still be able to wake them up and ask questions later.

=^^=
.../\...
Padmasa
27-07-2004, 10:30
Standard Sidearm, depends on who we're talking about.

Police: Devestator Flechette pistol.

Standard Infantry: Hammer 5 11mm Charge Pistol, alternatively we issue the the K-Sat 100 9mm Zero-G pistol.

Spec Ops: D20 Plasma Pistol or Fiend Maser Pistol

Military Orders: Depends, most carry a Hammer 5, but some favour Gauss or other pistol types.

And it should be noted that in addition to these pistols all members of the armed forces carry a melee weapon. Usually a chainsword but as the melee weapon has to be matched to the soldier there is no Standard Issue, that would make it harder for the men.
Holy panooly
27-07-2004, 10:31
Beretta 93r

Ammo Type: 9x19mm Parabellum
Magazine Capacity: 20 Rounds

3 round burst or single shot, amazing weapon.
New Eastgate
27-07-2004, 11:10
Pfft, as if the armed forces have funding enough for that! Maybe a spike bayonet, if they're lucky? Some officers persist in carrying their flintlock dueling pistols, which, of course, are not standardised, and others can even afford swords, usually foil types.

It matters little, as they're all about to be killed, pistols or nay.
Rhanafka
27-07-2004, 11:49
Currently, the standard issue sidearm in Rhanafka is the Marakov sidearm, though we are currently researching several new alternatives.
Syskeyia
27-07-2004, 15:30
The standard Syskeyian sidearm is the Colt M1911/M1991 .45 ACP handgun.

http://www.sightm1911.com/1911pix/product/ColtM1991A1L3.gif

When informed, Syskeyian soldiers wondered why anyone would still have their soldiers carrying revolvers around when automatic pistols of equal or greater performance were available.

:sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Roycelandia
27-07-2004, 15:57
Pantocratoria has stuck with the standard issue sidearm of the British Military revolver.

Which one? The British have used several, including the Tranter percussion revolver, Adams percussion Revolver, Webley .455 Revolver, Enfield No 2 Mk I .38 Revolver, and the Smith & Wesson M1917 .38 revolver...

When informed, Syskeyian soldiers wondered why anyone would still have their soldiers carrying revolvers around when automatic pistols of equal or greater performance were available.

There are several reasons to use a revolver, namely:

Reliability- it's very hard for a revolver to "jam", at least in the same sense as an Automatic does. If a round doesn't go off, a revolver just rotates the cylinder and gets another round under the hammer. An Automatic needs to have the slide pulled back, and if the jam is complicated, the pistol is out of action. Revolvers are far less likely to jam, and they're better suited to Combat Duties as they're usually more solid.

Accuracy- Any pistol shooter can tell you that a Revolver fired in single-action mode is inherently more accurate than an Automatic Pistol.

Conserves Ammo- Soldiers are less likely to go firing wildly at everything if they have a limited amount of ammo

Quick Reload- a Break-Open or Swing-Out cylinder can be loaded just as quickly as an Automatic Pistol through the wonders of a Speed Loader

They Look Cool- 'Nuff said. ;)
Che Moria
27-07-2004, 17:50
The Che Morian governments standard issue sidearm is the Phase Pistol. It has two modes... stun and kill. Each comrad communicates with the devise in the picture.
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/phasercommun2.jpg
Pantocratoria
27-07-2004, 17:59
Which one? The British have used several, including the Tranter percussion revolver, Adams percussion Revolver, Webley .455 Revolver, Enfield No 2 Mk I .38 Revolver, and the Smith & Wesson M1917 .38 revolver...

The Enfield Number 2 Mk I is the standard sidearm, although some M1917s remain in the Imperial Armoury.
Earth Defence
27-07-2004, 18:29
The standard issue sidearm for all Earth Defence personel is the 'JJ9-Enforcer'.

It utilises electromagnetic fields to accelerate a titanium bolt to the speed of light before discharge. The speed of the discharge can be altered depending on various conditions. There are various safety features to prevent tampering and mis-firing.

The last skirmish involving Earth Defence security forces and members of The Syndicate resulted in a clean and efficient dispatch of the criminal element.
Syskeyia
06-08-2004, 19:13
Conserves Ammo- Soldiers are less likely to go firing wildly at everything if they have a limited amount of ammo

Hmm, that argument has also been made by...
• Advocates of the single-shot rifle when the repeating rifle was introduced
• Devotees of the bolt-action rifle when the semi-automatic came into use
• Gun "experts" when the 20-round box clip was introduced in the 1950s.

Not to offend you, but you can see a pattern here. ;)

Revolvers are nice, though, and I wonder if a repeating, reliable, revolver rifle would be feasible in the 1860s.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Dracoinus
07-08-2004, 01:37
Spring Arms XD-9 v 3.4

Basically the same as a classic 20th century XD-9 frame except incorporates the electronic fire safety technology and cartridge less ammo.

www.metalstorm.com for the basis of the firing mechanics
Drizzts Army
07-08-2004, 01:46
Our normal ground force sidearm is mainly either the G2000 and Walther P99. No mods to the weapons really for the stndard soilder, but silencers and special Mini Night Sight scopes for special forces.
Sigma Octavus
07-08-2004, 02:23
There are two standard issue sidearms given to the armed forces of Sigma Octavus. One, the SOGPR-03C revolver, fires .454 rounds. Designed for high power, this weapon is generally only used in times of great need. The other, the SOGPP-43B, fires a specially made 14mm round, designed specifically for the SOGPP-43 series of firearms.

We make our own weapons due to a general sense of xenophobia. All weapons and ammo are made in Sigma Octavus by the SOGP.
Mattikistan
07-08-2004, 02:42
The limited number of troops we operate carry non-lethal weapons. The CM-291-P hand-held tranquiliser dart gun carries 20 non-lethal sedative-filled darts. One dart is generally sufficient to put your average soldier to sleep for 10-20 hours, depending on metabolism. There is no known counter-agent at present, so if you shoot yourself in the foot, that's it, you're going to take a nap. Rifles use a similar method -- though they are rapid-firing, hold 60 darts, and can operate over a longer range.

The idea was put into action some 25 years ago, when the public unanimously agreed that non-lethal methods should be employed at all times. Since the time of the War of the Five many centuries ago, Mattikistan has seen no military action, so the combat effectiveness of this solution is not yet known. Nor do we want to know.

Minister for Security
The Confederacy of Mattikistan
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-08-2004, 03:49
The standard sidearm of the LRRA is the colt M1911.

The standard SMG is the P-90, but the AKSU or Sten Mk. VII is much more common.
Freakin Sweet
07-08-2004, 05:09
my people have four arms at there sides...well most of us(we have alot of radiation spills).
Roycelandia
07-08-2004, 05:20
Hmm, that argument has also been made by...
• Advocates of the single-shot rifle when the repeating rifle was introduced
• Devotees of the bolt-action rifle when the semi-automatic came into use
• Gun "experts" when the 20-round box clip was introduced in the 1950s.

Not to offend you, but you can see a pattern here. ;)

Revolvers are nice, though, and I wonder if a repeating, reliable, revolver rifle would be feasible in the 1860s.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

They had repeating Rifles in the 1860s- Volcanic Repeating Arms Company and the Henry Rifle Company were making lever action rifles as early as 1853.

Colt Firearms made a Revolver Rifle in the 1860s, but it wasn't very good, IIRC- and by the time the revolver rifle was being produced, you could get a Lever Action Rifle for about the same price.

And regarding the ammo conservation thing: True, the same thing was said of repeating arms, semi-autos, and hi-capacity magazines. But The M-16A2 was deliberately restriced to 3-shot burst fire because soldiers WERE firing wildly and wasting ammo on full auto.

Still, it's only RP, and Roycelandia chooses to issue our soldiers with revolvers, although they are free to purchase and carry a different sidearm if they wish...
Nianacio
07-08-2004, 05:49
OOC: The Nianaciana armed forces uses a (two?) handgun(s) that is (are) indigenously made and that I haven't named.

Another reason to use revolvers is that you can make them capable of using many different types of cartridge.
Akaton
07-08-2004, 07:01
In Akaton, most military officers and government officials carry a pair of Akaton built custom auto-pistols.

PX-666 Reaper Assault Pistol:
Fire Modes: Semi Automatic, 3-Round Burst, Full Automatic.
Ammunition Type: 11mm caseless round.
Clip Capacity: 21 Rounds Contained in Curved Hand Grip.

Some high ranking military officers carry non-standardized swords. These can be typical sharpened metal blades, chain swords, and lethal high-tech phase swords.
Iansisle
07-08-2004, 08:00
Iansisle uses the Camstol Guns .457" Mk. XVI five shot revolver as its primary sidearm. The Marines love it because it is durable enough to survive months upon months at sea, has enough stopping power to stop a headlong charge in close quarters, and is simple enough to wield left handed, leaving the right free for sabre or other melée weapon. The Army, on the other hand, is less than enamored with the gun and has been clamoring for years for a change to the semi-automatic .455" Galveston Model 22 seven shot. However, tests have proven the Galveston M22 thirty three per cent more likely to jam when exposed to sea salt or sand for prolonged periods than the CGXVI. That and no one, least of all someone in the government, really cares what the Army has to say.

The Marines also use a weapon they've termed the 'boarding sabre,' though the short, heavy sword is really more like a Navy rating's cutlass than the long slashing sabre of the Light and Heavy Dragoons and Hussars.

Officers and men are, as always, free to purchase a weapon and ammunition of their own if the government issue doesn't fit them.
Kanuckistan
07-08-2004, 08:25
A 6mm varrient of the MP7 (http://www.hkpro.com/pdw.htm) is the 'standard issue' sidearm in the militia, tho they typicly purchase more 'modern' weapons, as I'm futuretech. The military use domecticly developed MFP-series microfusion weapons.

MP7: Coolest. Real. Sidearm. Ever.
Magnus Valerius
07-08-2004, 10:38
Magnus Valerius issues a gun manufactured from a home-grown company: The Johnson & Irons Model 29 .40" seven round automatic pistol. The arm is the de facto side arm that is used by all areas of the Valerian military. However, the Shah of the state of Tabriz is adamant about switching his state troops to this gun and prefers his soldiers to equip themselves with the Immortal .457" Mk. XXIV six-round revolver that has a very high rate of jamming in certain conditions such as sand and sea. The gun itself is more decorative than practical with its intricate gold inlays.

The Ramsey 10" dagger rounds off the marine's side arms, Its curved, serrated edge made of high-grade Valerian steel is designed for killing, and after rigorous testing upon various animals, it seems that it fits that job.

Other than the marines, every soldier is issued a battle sabre or some other practical single-edged sword; Light Dragoons and "Stratiotai" are given much more deadlier blades that are a few inches longer in size and are made of high-grade steel as opposed to the melee weapons given to the ground soldiers that are manufactured from average steel. Heavy Lancers are obviously also given a spear as well.
Khrrck
07-08-2004, 17:01
Wyrms generally don't see the need for pistols or knives.

If they decide they do need a sidearm, the weapon that usually gets selected is some kind of machine pistol.
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-08-2004, 19:17
The LRRA soldier is, on average, armed with an Ak-5 or Ak-4 assault rifle and a Sten or Carl Gustav.

As for ammunition, well, the LRRA doctrine is to shoot at everything and keep their heads down. The revolver is too slow to reload and generally doesn't have the stopping power of an automatic.
Wazzu
07-08-2004, 19:47
The standard issue sidearm of the Wazzu armed forces (all branches) is a locally made 5mm caseless pulse pistol. It isn't super-powerful as handguns go, but is very versitile in the type of round it fires and holds quite a bit of ammunition. It is also fairly cheap to manufacture and easy to maintain.

The common soldier is permitted to buy an older-style 10mm caseless pistol. While not quite as versitile or well loaded as the 5mm, the larger handgun offers a signifigant boost in power. Because of this, many choose to purchase this old holdout.

Officers are permitted the 10mm or energy sidearms, though recharging is only covered at government expense for locally produced weapons. Energy weapons are rare and expensive in Wazzu, and like the 10mm, energy pistols are not standard issue, so very few officiers actually have them.

And while it is not a sidearm, the machette holds a special place in the history of the Wazzu military. Again, machettes are definately NOT standard issue, and only ceremonial knives are provided for special occasions. However, officers and high-ranking enlisted are permitted to own and carry functional machettes as part of their uniform. Despite the vast majority of them never actually using them, a fair few do purchase and wear them proudly.
East Islandia
07-08-2004, 20:31
something Italian, preferably either the Beretta (with a polymer body instead ofa steel one, so its lighter) or a Tanfoglio.

Maybe also H&K USP or something...some Glocks too...well i guess a good gun is a good gun, but i'd rather rely on european make weapons.

And anything is good as long as its either 9x19mm or 9x21mm... something like that... the two standard pistol munitions types...i forgot exactly wut they were tho
Kajal
07-08-2004, 21:05
Laedan Military Technologies (LMT) Model P84 Plasma pistol.

It is reloaded much in the same way as any normal pistol, but a clip is good for about 50 shots before it needs to be reloaded, on the lowest setting. It has only three settings, the lowest being "Scorch" while the highest is "Destroy." All three settings are more or less lethal, depending on where you hit the target.

At the midway setting of "Kill", you'll get about 25 shots before it needs to be reloaded. On Destroy, you'll get 10.
Menelmacar
07-08-2004, 21:14
The FëaTech Arms EPP-26 heavy plasma pistol is the standard military sidearm. I don't have a picture yet, but the MP-7 is the RL sidearm that most closely resembles it. The magazine contains a small power cell and a bottle of supercooled helium, enough for thirty plasma bolts. Accurate range is roughly a kilometer.

http://www.hkpro.com/pdwright.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Sirithil/Overkill.gif
Okay, the bolts aren't quite that big, obviously. :D
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-08-2004, 23:10
You and your 'modern guns'!

The RSF still uses a fair number of Stens!

But for futuretech, the primary sidearm of the RSF and RA is the FN P-100, which is the P-90 except firing plasma.

But seriously, in order to actually board an RSF ship, well...lets go so far as to say its never happened to anything bigger than a frigate. Shields disrupt teleportation, and PD systems make boarding by small craft virtually impossible.