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Is this part of RPing?

Buechoria
19-07-2004, 17:21
I do not mean to brag, but I believe I am becomeing a fairly good RPer, and a vetern of this game (My old nation got deleted in UNDER 90 days. Thanks a lot Max). Anyway,well, is this part of acceptable RP during war?

E.g.

Country 1: I have ten artillery cannons, that fire 7 volleys, then, disassemble and retreat to avoid attempts to locate them.

Country 2: During the 3rd volley shells tracking systems detect the shells and 5 of my M21343134 600mm begin a barrage against your position.

OOC: Post losses

I know the second guy is kind of godmodding, but ignore that. Is it acceptable to attack during an attack, even after it's happened?

Another example:

Country 1: After medavcing the injured, the Super Puma helicopter flew away and the troops continued marhcing to the beach...

Country 2: 3 troops fire 6 Stingers at your Super Puma when it's loading
Starblaydia
19-07-2004, 17:31
With example one, the time it takes to disassemble an artillery battery should allow ample time for a counter attack, so thats feasible.

Example two, why fire stingers at something that's currently on the ground, they're generally a SAM, right? Waiting 'til its in the air is a far better response.


But the best thing really is not to RP something like 'i walk up to you, shoot at you, then run away and hide.'
Five Civilized Nations
19-07-2004, 17:34
Starbladyia, stingers are missiles that can be utilized as both anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry.

In all fairness to the really good RPers on NationStates, your RPs Buechoria aren't that good. For your RPs to be considered good, your posts have to be incredibly more detailed without any possibility of people screaming godmodding/powergaming/numberwanking or just wanking in general.
Starblaydia
19-07-2004, 17:38
Starbladyia, stingers are missiles that can be utilized as both anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry.

*stands corrected*

Anyway, blowing it up in mid-air would be far more fun :D
Buechoria
19-07-2004, 17:41
I said my RPs were FAIRLY good, not good. Heheh. But see, the thing is, wile I know it takes a while to dissasemble artillery, they attack during the 3rd volley. My question is, is this good RP. Because form what I've seen is that nations makes attack responding to the enmies attacks and so on, not in the middle of the enmies attacks.
Starblaydia
19-07-2004, 17:46
I said my RPs were FAIRLY good, not good. Heheh. But see, the thing is, wile I know it takes a while to dissasemble artillery, they attack during the 3rd volley. My question is, is this good RP. Because form what I've seen is that nations makes attack responding to the enmies attacks and so on, not in the middle of the enmies attacks.

Using your first example again: if you attack with however-many volleys, then take apart your equipment and run away, that is bad RP as you've had a number of 'moves' (using a chess analogy) and your opponent only had the chance to counter you after you'd already retreated. You would have left him no options but to break into the artilliery volley or get killed with no possibility of combacks.
Five Civilized Nations
19-07-2004, 17:46
This is actually a pretty n00bish form of RPing. Let me give you an example of an RP:


Like a brilliant white angel delivering salvation from the heavens, the new Combined Five Civilized Nations Navy warship, the CNSS-1945 Kazansky, the first ship of a new class of powerful cruisers, glided smoothly through space. Exactly 750 meters long, the CNSS-1945 was a symbol of the might of the Five Civilized Nations Navy and was the epitome of the Five Civilized Nations resolve to assist in the sustainment of peace in the universe.

The Kazansky's revolutionary war-core fusion engines allowed the vessel through space at speeds long thought impossible for ships of its size and in addition to its heavy shielding and weaponry, allowed it to take on warships more than twice its size.

But today, the mission for the Kazansky was much simpler. After the initial maiden voyage, the crew of the Kazansky discovered a series of electronic and mechanical glitches aboard the vessel that prevented it from operating at its complete potential. In order to faciliate usage to its utmost capability, the Kazansky underwent extensive modification. Now just three days after the completion of these modifications, the CNSS-1945 Kazansky was ready for a new series of testing.

Originally conceived as nothing more than a mission to check out the modifications, but this seemingly peace and quiet just couldn't last.

Aboard the bridge of the CNSS-1945 Kazansky, Commodore Henry Paul Jones sat uneasily in his command chair as he watched his crew fully test the vessel. Shaking his head in disgust at receiving such a seemingly boring mission, Commodore Jones stood from his seat and began to stretch his muscles, sore from hours of sitting uncomfortably in the command chair. Just as Commodore Jones was about to return to his quarters from what he believed to be a well-deserved nap, the Kazansky's advanced shipboard AI, Titan, suddenly sent a message to the Commodore's computer implant.

Shaking his head in derision, the Commodore listened closely to the distress message that the AI sent to his computer implant.

This is a distress signal from the Indran Prime battleship, the Nov'ask Teio, we are currently deluged by a horde of Shivan warships. Requesting assistance from all ESUS member nation warships...

"What the hell!?!" Jones muttered angrily. Sitting back down in his seat, Jones was about to decide upon the course of action, the AI suddenly transmitted another message.

This is a SOS transmission from the Central Facehuggerian pleasure cruiser, the Absolution. We've suffered a serious malfunction... Life support systems are dying... We've lost all power, even auxiliary and teritary... Backup power will only last an hour... We've got some 5,000 passengers bound for the Central Facehuggerian pleasure planet... Our Fuhrer is aboard this vessel. Please help us!!!

"Damn't," Jones swore. Lying back in his command chair, Jones thoughts began to race as he contemplated the two ramifications of both distress signals. If I go rescue the Absolution, Jones thought, The Nov'ask Teio might be lost and our entire front against the Shivans can be lost... But if I go assist the Nov'ask Teio, the Absolution will be lost, along with the Central Facehuggerian Fuhrer... Damn't.

Angry at the decision that he had before him, Jones suddenly felt the blood rise through his veins. Shaking his head, Jones realized that he wanted to battle the Shivans. Fully ecided on the course of action, Jones raised his head and began to bark orders to his crew.

In a loud booming voice, Jones screamed out, "All hands on deck, RED ALERT!" As he screamed, Jones slammed his hand down on the red alert button. Suddenly the brilliantly white flourescent lights disappeared, replaced by eerie red lighting. A sexy, female voice began to speak over the intercom, THIS IS RED ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK... BATTLE STATIONS!

Thirty seconds after the red alert came on, the crew was ready for battle. Nodding his head, Jones looked at his navigators and helmsman and said, "Plot us a course to the last known location where the Nov'ask Teio transmitted..." He was swiftly answered by a series of aye sirs.

When everything was ready, Jones looked at his chief navigator and said, "Engage the engines and take us into subspace..."

One second, the beautiful warship was there, the next, the vessel had disappeared, into subspace...
Slutbum Wallah
19-07-2004, 18:34
Of course that kind of thing can only be used in dedicated RP's with several veteran players. The rest of us freelance types have a tendancy to skim-read anything over two paragraphs.
Five Civilized Nations
19-07-2004, 19:59
Actually I would change veteran to dedicated...
Vagari
19-07-2004, 20:05
I said my RPs were FAIRLY good, not good. Heheh. But see, the thing is, wile I know it takes a while to dissasemble artillery, they attack during the 3rd volley. My question is, is this good RP. Because form what I've seen is that nations makes attack responding to the enmies attacks and so on, not in the middle of the enmies attacks.

It's only good RP if it isn't going to piss the other players off. Anything that is likely to cause an argument is crap RP.
Gawdly
20-07-2004, 16:33
Take the time to read 5CN's post...now THAT is an RP. Look ma, no l33t-speek!

If you skim, you lose. Take the time to enjoy the art that has been created for your enjoyment. RP ain't fast-food, it's a 12 course meal.
Roseway
20-07-2004, 18:18
Good RP? Lookitthat! He combined interjections! Only one exclamation point/question mark per sentence!

Seriously, that looks pretty good. Like what I'd do if I had the chance.
Five Civilized Nations
20-07-2004, 18:28
Are you talking to me, Roseway?
Roseway
20-07-2004, 18:42
Who else is combining interjections in public?
Five Civilized Nations
20-07-2004, 18:43
right... :confused: :rolleyes:
Gawdly
20-07-2004, 21:49
Wait...isn't that illegal??
Five Civilized Nations
20-07-2004, 22:38
Of course not. :p
Roseway
21-07-2004, 16:53
Did I see a double smiley? Look, don't make me call a mod.
Belem
21-07-2004, 19:58
Buechoria if you want to make complaints atleast state truthfully what your side did.

heres what actually happened:

Buechoria had 10 artillery guns fire on my basecamp but it wasnt for 7 volleys it was for a constant 12 hour long period(I remember you cleary saying 1200 shells) and you didn't have the disassembled you just had the crews trucked out and new ones trucked in. Also it wasn't 6 600mm cannons considering the fact I don't field any 600mm cannons and they are really cumbersome and have to be transferred via railcar. It was 60 standard Towed cannons which would be about 180mm.

And for the stingers. First off I never said 3 troops fired 6 stingers which would be quite impossible since the stinger is ussually used in 2 man groups. And the only times I fired stingers in combat against you is when you tried to land 30 thousand troops by 1,000 choppers right in front of my troops and somehow didnt expect to take fire. And I believe I also launched a few stingers at your attack choppers and medevacs which is in my right to do so even though you said "they left" because you condensed the approach, action and return statements into one post.
Buechoria
21-07-2004, 20:34
Umm.. Listen Belem, I'm not syaing naything truthfully or am I lying. I'm randomising it and because I was confused on what you did because I'm new to WAR RP.
Santa Barbara
21-07-2004, 20:44
It's a good question though. Specifics aside.

Sometimes, in normal RP with fluid time and variable post lengths, its easy for continuity to get messed up. Especially, the more you do. As your post goes on, you might find that more and more of what you write is dependent on the other RPers not doing something in response to the beginning of your post.

Some people just go with it. Like in the Day at the Office how the Rat continues to berate workers even though I said he left. I don't mind, my character isn't omniscient, and so maybe the Rat was just lying. Seems likely.

In war RPs though, players get overly concerned about the course of events. Then, well, the only hard rule is if the other players don't object to your RP it's valid. But in the artillery case, well a safe way would just be to RP the first volley and wait and see what happens. Smaller time-chunk. It's more risky to assume stuff that happens over hours or days, because theres more cause to object to things going as smoothly as your post describes.