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Gen. Liu (Sino's Leader) and his sanity

Sino
16-07-2004, 06:12
To others inhabiting the NS world, is Gen. Liu sane?

Feel free to ask questions or about his life story.
Sino
16-07-2004, 06:24
A Concise Biography of General Liu

Note: Contains theories about the NS world's history through the views of the author.

Introduction:

The leader of the Armed Republic of Sino is General Liu, who heads the Military Junta and is the Supreme Commander of the ARSCF (Armed Republic of Sino Combined Forces). General Liu is in his early 30s and unmarried. He leads a moralistic and ascetic life-style, participates actively in politics, warfare and matters regarding Chinese nationalism.

Childhood:

Born as Liu Tongzhong (meaning 'Liu who unites China') in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong, Liu was born in the PLA Foshan 3rd Hospital on July 1st, 1998. July 1st is the anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to China and thus, a name of political significance. Son to a father who is a mechanical engineering lecturer of the local university and a mother who had a small management position in a textile plant.

At the age of five, the Liu family moved to the small English-speaking nation. Liu's father found a new position as professor of a university. Tongzhong was soon renamed 'Albert' by his father in honor of Albert Einstein. Liu had a boyhood of loneliness as he was considered too quiet and seldom spoke. At the best of times, his parents tried not to neglect him. Often they were at work. Leaving the young boy to live and care for himself. Liu had taken an intense interest in natural science from his father and decided to pursue a career in mechanical engineering by the age of ten. In his teens, the young Liu had taken an intense interest of shooting (he was a marksman by the age of sixteen) and from it, an intense interest in weapons and the military (especially the army). He was especially interested in becoming a sniper. Liu speaks very fluent English, often varying his accents, which proved useful later in life.

The Young Militarist:

During his high school years, Liu studied much about history and this made him admire and agree to some of the views of Hitler. The reason for this strange interest was that Liu, under the racism of a white-dominated society, had created and moulded the Chinese nationalist from within. He had felt a pranoia that the Chinese race was dying as many nations were atempting to destroy it and that his compatriots no nothing of this plot. This nationalism, combined with his militarism (the boy had admired the various military powers of the past centuries) made him a militant nationalist. He had admired Hitler's nationalism (not racism) in regards to uniting all speakers of the same language (Hitler believed that all German-speaking peoples should be united, as seen in the Anschluss with Austrian and the annexation of the Sudentenland from Czechoslovakia, both events in 1938. Liu believed that the downtrodden Chinese should also be united). But he was quiet and therefore, never spoke much about his views.

At an early age, Liu had become an atheist and ultimately, loathing religion as he had been a great believer in science and had known about past instances in history where the church purged scientists and denounced them as heretics. His atheism is also a result of coming from a non-religious family. However, being atheist does not mean that he is an unmoralistic swine for he had a high sense of morality and discipline partly because his parents were conservative and he had become alienated by his mostly rebellious peers. He had also become ascetic as he sees pleasure as weakness and has openly declared that he has no favorite food and starting at the age of thirteen has grown to not use the pillow when sleeping.

His conservatism is that of a hatred of liberalism which he believes had corrupted morality and is responsible for much of the decay of decency. He attacked the source of this defilement being the 'hippy' movements of the 1960s. He had became so conservative that he vowed never to drink, to smoke (although he has never tried) and loathed sex outside of marriage (both pre-marital and extra-marital). he had by the age of sixteen, developed an ideal of 'national discipline' (practiced in today's Sino) where there are high expectations of a people's image and thus, many social evils are wiped out and the offenders heavily punished. He had loathes homosexuals and bisexuals as he did not believe in sexual freedoms and thinks that their practice is subhuman, inferior and unnatural.

Liu was often called a fascist at this age by his peers as his views were ultimately right-winged (although he did believe in market economy) and he was violently anti-communist. Anti-communism was slight in his fathers views (common in many immigrants from China who had been tired of such a rotten system) but the young Liu believe that all leftism is subhuman as he believed that they will ultimately lead to the downfall of the human way.

Although a conservative, the young Liu had a rude sense of humor and unlike his peers, he listened to classical and orchestral music and loathed modern music. He collects coins and stamps and had an active interest in history, especially in regards to conflict and warfare. He had played numerous realtime strategy games on PC in his youth and had become such a fan that he was often found listening to their soundtracks.

University Education and Early Military Career:

Entered university at the age of eighteen, Liu studied mechanical engineering, secretly hoping to join the local army afterwards and become an armory officer. Worked extremely hard in university and had few social contacts. graduated with a bachelor of engineering degree at the age of twenty one and decided to join the army, despite the protest from his parents.

Originally trained as an armory officer, and was commissioned as a lieutenant in 2019. Liu's exceptional marksmanship and skill as an armorer made him a keen target for sniper school and within half a year he was qualified as a sniper. By that time, the world was dancing on the edge of chaos. The age of NationStates dawned. By then, the Chinese were poised to attack the renegade province of Taiwan and the U.S. and other Western countries were in support of the rogue state. Liu at first showed no objection to being deployed to fight his own race. While travelling aboard a frigate to the combat zone, Lt. Liu developed a cunning plan. One night, when the ship was sailing close to China, with his access to the armory on board, he had taken a silenced automatic (H&K MP5 SD3) and murdered all the crewman aboard in their sleep. He had left the captain and skipper alive, to have them forced at gunpoint to sail to Zhanjiang, China (a major PLA naval port). He was planning his defection. Upon arrival, he had shot his hostages. Liu had shown his true image.

Total War:

At first the Chinese did not trust him and he was imprisoned and was forced to under a crash course in re-education. However, his nationalism was too extreme and thus, he was accepted. What followed was a non-stop period of seven years of endless war.

Liu received the rank of Captain soon after his acceptance when he volunteered for a dangerous mission. When Taiwanese spec-ops hijacked an MRBM TEL (nuclear armed) and planned to use it, it was Liu who sniped the guards nearby and lased the enemy SAMs for MRLS bombardment, then pathing the way the the nuclear weapons to be recovered. He had acted alone and was rewarded.

At the rank of captain, he had retained it for almost a year before he was promoted to major, after having assasinated (sniped) several of the enemy's field commanders. During this time, sometimes at a lack of personnel, Liu worked numerous positions in the PLA. Odd jobs had included MBT gunner, helicopter machingunner, translator, interrogator, executioner, scout and recon, armoury officer, and comedian (although a very serious and rude one). One of his favorite, battlefield 'past times' was not just listening to enemy communications but also stealing an enemy radio set, killing to user of that callsign and speaking as him to deceive the enemy. His voice talent and accents proved useful.

He had also aided and directed guerilla groups in areas of China under enemy occupation. During this period, he had sniped, bombed, commanded, assassinated (at close range with pistols, stabbing and used poisons) and gathered intelligence. Close brushs with death in this period has wiped his mind off the fear of death. He had almost been roasted by napalm and the back of his BDUs were singed, counter-sniper activities were often close calls. He had received much light injuries during this period. There is still a scar in this left arm when a bullet from an enemy sniper grazed him.

By the time he was promoted to Lt. Col., Liu had eversince commanded victorious battles with the vast Chinese arsenal at his disposal. His career suddenly took a fateful turn when in the summer of 2024, the newly promoted Col. Liu faced the unexpected news of total military collapse of the PLA and the ROCA-occuping China. He was in rural Hangzhou at that time, faced with absolute uncertainty and warlordism rife as Australian bushfire, Liu became a warlord.

Path to Pwer:

A total military collapse of the PLA in late 2025, meant that a defeat has occured but the defiant Liu pressed on with the campaign. A shocking blow to the structure came when Liu's superiors were killed in a bombing by the enemy. With his competence, Liu's subordinates quickly proclaimed him to the rank of General. General Liu and his troops fought on, refusing to capitulate. March 18th, 2026, General Liu's forces seized a city that is today's Junjing (Shanghai), Sino and the Armed Republic of Sino was established. His own flames of war swept south, Liu's territories now include the provinces of Zhejiang, Suzhou, Fujian and Guangdong.

The Benevolent Warlord:

With the hatred of war still fuelling the flames of Chinese nationalism, General Liu quickly set about building his own nation. Within five years, through his policies of market economy, corporate welfare and national discipline. His occupation of Coastal China hs given him the financial upper hand. General Liu has made Sino what it is today. He had wiped the nation clean of the negative social vices (drugs, gambling, immoral sex and pornography), urbanized the islands that makes up Sino, produced a strong economy, controlled crime and wiped Sino off the disease of the sexually incorrect (homosexuals and bisexuals). He has also set about rebuilding his military force for which he has deemed as the ultimate struggle of uniting all Chinese-speaking peoples and repatrition of Zhongguo*. Hating the usual national animal of the Chinese- the panda, General Liu made the national animal of Sino the fictional Chinese dragon (he said "The panda is timid and unintelligent, the Chinese dragon symbolizes power and strength. Would you like a mindless fat thing to represent the Chinese people?"). The national emblem of Sino (and the ARSCF) is the original PLA Red Star but surrounded by twin golden Chinese dragons on either side. General Liu's shoulder slides (representing his position as Supreme Commander), shows a pair of golden Chinese dragons.

Liu quickly attracted fellow overseas Chinese to immigrate Sino. In order to prepare for the ultimate struggle, General Liu maintains a very good personal image of himself. He does not demand personal worship, dislikes being photographed, let alone publically displaying glorious effigies of himself. He dislikes personal worship. But instead, he has set up many flag parks in Sino (with numerous flagpoles flying the Chinese flags), he promotes militant Chinese nationalism. Wielding dictatorial powers, he rarely abuses such and often donates much of his annual income to the major construction and research projects in Sino.

General Liu is a known workaholic. Often sleeping on the sofa in his office, during breaks (in a classified bunker deep underground, also housing the office and conference areas of the military junta). He is unmarried, once said that he "takes pleasure in power, not sex." Still maintains the same morality of no smoking or drinking and certainly, no pre-marital sex. Being regarded as somewhat of a psychopath. General Liu can be seen executing some of the nation's criminals on national television. At the age of thirty-three, he is still a capable and active sniper in the ARSA (Armed Republic of Sino Army).

Having admired Hitler's eloquence, General Liu speaks in the same volume nad vigour when it comes to speeches. Periodical nationalistic rallies (at scales grand enough to match Hitler's Nuremberg rallies), the General is a fiery speaker, despite being a rather quiet man in his private life and enjoys burning enemy effigies.

Most of his spare time from work is spent either visiting his scientists, and troops, volunteering to help (hands on approach) with some major contruction projects and exercising (practising the old art of sniping and on exercise with his troops). His hobbies besides the above include philatelics, numismatics and all things military.


Personal Profile:

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Full name (with title): ARSCF Supreme Commander Gen. Liu Tong Zhong (his English Name is 'Albert')
Height: 1.72m (thin built)
Mass: 60kg
Eyes: Dark brown.
Hair: Black (crew cut)
Attire (usual): ARSA BDUs, serivce or ceremonial uniforms.
Age (current): 28-33 (OOC: Depends on my choice in RP'ing)
Marital status: Single (rumoured to have a mistress)
Five Civilized Nations
16-07-2004, 20:36
Tongzhong actually doesn't mean one who unites China...

Besides that, I want to talk to you about control over China...
Sino
17-07-2004, 01:21
Tongzhong actually doesn't mean one who unites China...

Besides that, I want to talk to you about control over China...

Sure, go ahead. I want China for Sino, not for anyone else.
Bonstock
17-07-2004, 01:42
Port Yuko Times poll: Question: Is Sinoese dictator Liu insane?

Response: 99.9999999% yes, .0000001% no.

In other news, a Bonstocknian insane asylum inmate was reported missing without a trace.

In more news, a corpse was found in a local river beside a Bonstocknian military base.

ooc: I guess our views of NS history is a bit different. I figured NS history developed without RL history, but with an RL world map, though that map is much larger then the RL world to accomidate all the nations on NS. My nation, supposedly, formed many, many centuries ago when a French explorer with a Swedish crew got shipwreaked on an expedition to China, and the survivors landed on the island of Isa, in Wysteria, on a northern-pointing penninsula which came to be known as Bonstock. My acquisition of Maropian Coast, however, is directly RP history from about a year ago. Last June, Tech-Annihater/MagicChina controlled all of China. Being a little imperialist, I wanted China. So I aligned myself with Tech, becoming the only ally of that nation. When AMF nuked him (for the 5th time I think), I stepped in and offered to rebuild Tech-Annihater, for a price. Economic control over the Yangtze river and all the land that drained to it, along with the city of Shanghai. Then, by some Modly whim, Tech-Annihater got deleted. As the sole ally of Tech, I claimed all of China. AMF, of course, would have none of it. He quickly invaded China with a completely superiour force. I was forced to withdraw to Taiwan, where I made a stand against mighty AMF. He threatened to invade, tried to psyche me out of fighting, but I held firm, he got bored and gave up. So, I may claim a place as the only nation to ever stand up to AMF, and live to tell the tail. And I was left with Taiwan. Then I figured out about _Taiwan, who had just come into existance. Rather then destroy the nascent _Taiwan, I made him agree to recognize my control of a small strip of Taiwan's eastern coast, around the town of Hualien, which I dubbed Maropian Coast. You should know the rest.
Sino
17-07-2004, 01:48
Port Yuko Times poll: Question: Is Sinoese dictator Liu insane?

Response: 99.9999999% yes, .0000001% no.

In other news, a Bonstocknian insane asylum inmate was reported missing without a trace.

In more news, a corpse was found in a local river beside a Bonstocknian military base.

Bonstocknians sure lack the sanity to judge. Bostocknian polls are known to have a 99.9+% of error.
Sino
17-07-2004, 02:06
BUMP

Any comments on his personal image or questions about his private life.
Sino
17-07-2004, 02:09
Port Yuko Times poll: Question: Is Sinoese dictator Liu insane?

Response: 99.9999999% yes, .0000001% no.

In other news, a Bonstocknian insane asylum inmate was reported missing without a trace.

In more news, a corpse was found in a local river beside a Bonstocknian military base.

ooc: I guess our views of NS history is a bit different. I figured NS history developed without RL history, but with an RL world map, though that map is much larger then the RL world to accomidate all the nations on NS. My nation, supposedly, formed many, many centuries ago when a French explorer with a Swedish crew got shipwreaked on an expedition to China, and the survivors landed on the island of Isa, in Wysteria, on a northern-pointing penninsula which came to be known as Bonstock. My acquisition of Maropian Coast, however, is directly RP history from about a year ago. Last June, Tech-Annihater/MagicChina controlled all of China. Being a little imperialist, I wanted China. So I aligned myself with Tech, becoming the only ally of that nation. When AMF nuked him (for the 5th time I think), I stepped in and offered to rebuild Tech-Annihater, for a price. Economic control over the Yangtze river and all the land that drained to it, along with the city of Shanghai. Then, by some Modly whim, Tech-Annihater got deleted. As the sole ally of Tech, I claimed all of China. AMF, of course, would have none of it. He quickly invaded China with a completely superiour force. I was forced to withdraw to Taiwan, where I made a stand against mighty AMF. He threatened to invade, tried to psyche me out of fighting, but I held firm, he got bored and gave up. So, I may claim a place as the only nation to ever stand up to AMF, and live to tell the tail. And I was left with Taiwan. Then I figured out about _Taiwan, who had just come into existance. Rather then destroy the nascent _Taiwan, I made him agree to recognize my control of a small strip of Taiwan's eastern coast, around the town of Hualien, which I dubbed Maropian Coast. You should know the rest.


For the final nail in the coffin, Sino comes along and kicks that puppet state's ass.
Bonstock
17-07-2004, 02:18
For the final nail in the coffin, Sino comes along and kicks that puppet state's ass.
Our response: Bring it on.
Agrigento
17-07-2004, 05:56
Hes sane, his views are just a little off...
Belem
17-07-2004, 06:40
perfectly sane and normal.
_Taiwan
17-07-2004, 09:03
Sane yes, normal no.
Miloz
17-07-2004, 12:23
Bonstocknians sure lack the sanity to judge. Bostocknian polls are known to have a 99.9+% of error.

Indeed, but they do have a 0.1% truth.
New Kingman
17-07-2004, 15:34
After many hours of deliberation and countless reviews of his personal profile, the Ministry of Health and Human Services declares General Liu Tongzhong, certifiably INSANE.

Martin Farrell
Minister of Health and Human Services
The Republic of New Kingman
Bonstock
17-07-2004, 17:36
Bonstocknians sure lack the sanity to judge. Bostocknian polls are known to have a 99.9+% of error.

Oh my god, your right! We do havea 99.9 margin of error!

Real poll results: 199.999999999999% of Bonstocknians and Maropians think Lui insane.
Xiaguo
18-07-2004, 01:52
Liu Tong Zhong is, according to the Xiannese poll, 68% sane and 23% insane, the rest are confused or lack the sanity to judge for themselves.

China is to be united under a Republic, Power to the People, I define China accordingly to the Modern Map with all disputes belonging to China.!
Sino
19-07-2004, 00:07
Our response: Bring it on.

*Gen. Liu impersonating The Rock (from WWF)*: "You're gonna smell what the General's cooking!"

OOC: I'm not a wrestling fan.
Sino
19-07-2004, 00:12
Oh my god, your right! We do havea 99.9 margin of error!

Real poll results: 199.999999999999% of Bonstocknians and Maropians think Lui insane.

Someone doesn't know his maths, 100+% is not mathematically possible unless you bribe people from other nations into that poll.
Xiaguo
19-07-2004, 03:47
haha.

Rambo = "I Love My Country"
Sino
19-07-2004, 05:37
Rambo's fictional but from the battlefield experiences of Liu, it looks like he's the Chinese Rambo. (Not directly comparing as Liu is a sniper and armourer and not spec-ops or heavy weapons specialist).
Letila
20-07-2004, 16:26
We of Letila enjoy anime and other Asian products, but feel that Liu does his race a great disfavor with his fascist ways. He is definitely insane.
Agrigento
20-07-2004, 20:24
ooc: Rambo is based on an actual person named John Rambo, who was a special forces operator in Vietnam.
Five Civilized Nations
20-07-2004, 20:36
Reminds me of one of my naval commanders...
Sino
21-07-2004, 02:05
We of Letila enjoy anime and other Asian products, but feel that Liu does his race a great disfavor with his fascist ways. He is definitely insane.

Insanity are the subhumans that embrace the naive practice of anarchism. Anarchists like Letila, foolishly label any form of authority as 'fascist'.
Dalimbar
21-07-2004, 02:11
The Dictatorship of Dalimbar is pleased to announce that General Liu is still sane.
Magnus Valerius
21-07-2004, 03:29
The Emperor of Magnus Valerius, Alexander II, considers General Liu to be perfectly sane. In light of Alexander II's father, Alexander I, Liu is perfectly normal; Alexander I was an imperialistic, genocidal, secretive maniac who annihilated ten million people in one action at his very whim from a city-state trying to secede from the Empire.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-07-2004, 04:20
Liu is sane, but he is also a very, very horrible individual by LRR standards.

Which certainly differ from Sino standards.

In LRR, people are immoral and corrupt. They believe in peace and think the only way to move foreward is to be as progressive as possible and introduce to the world kindness and compassion for all, and hate no-one. Tolerance is paramount, although intolerance is not tolerated.

However, the populace and government will readily go to war to stop genocide or to prevent the invasion of a peaceful democratic country by a dictatorship or false-communist country.

But the LRR refusal to bomb civillian centers or kill prisoners, and the fact that LRR medical teams will pick up any wounded person, displays these values even in the heat of battle.

So, in conclusion, Liu is not a good or kind person, and is not good for the world. He is obviously quite intolerant and his mind is closed. He must open it up or waste his life.

Let the following question be submitted to general Liu:

If there were a bunch of people protesting peacefully against something that you supported or believed to be right, would you shoot them?

If he answers yes, he is obviously quite insane, or at the very least horribly intolerant.

OCC: Sino, I believe you yourself made some racist comments when commenting on the russian-based technology used by that country that invaded you when you killed all those hippies.
Sino
21-07-2004, 05:54
Let the following question be submitted to general Liu:

If there were a bunch of people protesting peacefully against something that you supported or believed to be right, would you shoot them?

If he answers yes, he is obviously quite insane, or at the very least horribly intolerant.

Liu does not shoot protestors who share his beliefs therefore, there are daily nationalistic rallies (on small scales), carried out by mostly elderly. Protestors who however, belief in the use of violence will be dealt with by the riot police. All protests must meet government apporval and supervision in Sino for reasons public safety and decency.

Protests that are not approved, but non-violent may result in arrests only. But illegal and violent protests may result in government-inflicted fatalities for the sake of security.

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To break up protestors, tear gas and pepper spray were frequently used.

Liu is known to be generally lenient towards political criminals of his own race.
Sino
21-07-2004, 05:57
The Emperor of Magnus Valerius, Alexander II, considers General Liu to be perfectly sane. In light of Alexander II's father, Alexander I, Liu is perfectly normal; Alexander I was an imperialistic, genocidal, secretive maniac who annihilated ten million people in one action at his very whim from a city-state trying to secede from the Empire.

Liu does not see eye to eye with Emporer Alexander when it comes killing members of one's own race.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-07-2004, 16:26
Liu does not see eye to eye with Emporer Alexander when it comes killing members of one's own race.

But genocide is never against one's own race.

And if every ethnic group clusters around in their own little space and never intermingles, the world will turn into what is like the ghettos of a big city. We don't want that, so people must intermingle and be nice. Nationalism has never (historically) brought any good, except for anti-semites. And their opinions don't really deserve consideration.
Communist Moose
21-07-2004, 16:36
lol

Is my nation China or is my nation Canada? Or is it both? Or is it neither? ;)
Peng-Pau
21-07-2004, 18:57
Liu is sane, yes. He knows what he is doing, and he does it with uncanny accuracy.

Whether or not he is normal is another matter entirely. He is a very sick and twisted man with a big chip on his shoulder.
Sino
22-07-2004, 02:21
But genocide is never against one's own race.

And if every ethnic group clusters around in their own little space and never intermingles, the world will turn into what is like the ghettos of a big city. We don't want that, so people must intermingle and be nice. Nationalism has never (historically) brought any good, except for anti-semites. And their opinions don't really deserve consideration.

What about national unity? There had been examples in history where nations unite due to nationalism. Nationalism was common amongst peoples living under foreign oppression. Nationalism is a double edged weapons usefull for both opressing others and struggling against an oppressor.

Did I mention that I also admire the undying nationalism of the Jews?
Mercenary Soldiers
22-07-2004, 02:35
OOC: The man strikes me as a classic violent sociopath, with unwavering dedication to his morals, goals, and ideals. Everything about him seems normal & sane, until you read the part about this supposed cleansing of sexual deviants & his taste for personally executing criminals on the public access channel.

I don't understand why he is still an active combat marksman... It would be easy for an opposing sniper or well-aimed mortar shell to snuff him out & leave your nation leaderless. I would suggest a spot on the competitive rifle marksmanship team.
Sino
22-07-2004, 05:38
OOC: The man strikes me as a classic violent sociopath, with unwavering dedication to his morals, goals, and ideals. Everything about him seems normal & sane, until you read the part about this supposed cleansing of sexual deviants & his taste for personally executing criminals on the public access channel.

I don't understand why he is still an active combat marksman... It would be easy for an opposing sniper or well-aimed mortar shell to snuff him out & leave your nation leaderless. I would suggest a spot on the competitive rifle marksmanship team.

Liu has had many close calls with death, ranging from counter-snipers to napalms. Like Qin (first emperor to unite China), countless brushes with death leave him truly fearless of it. As he practically gave his life to his cause, he has remarked "I don't care if I don't live to the age of forty."
Sino
22-07-2004, 05:39
Liu is sane, yes. He knows what he is doing, and he does it with uncanny accuracy.

Whether or not he is normal is another matter entirely. He is a very sick and twisted man with a big chip on his shoulder.

"Big chip on the shoulder." That's an expression I don't understand.
Sino
22-07-2004, 05:44
Sane yes, normal no.

What exactly is normality? Normality is so underrated.
Mercenary Soldiers
22-07-2004, 05:52
Liu has had many close calls with death, ranging from counter-snipers to napalms. Like Qin (first emperor to unite China), countless brushes with death leave him truly fearless of it. As he practically gave his life to his cause, he has remarked "I don't care if I don't live to the age of forty."

OOC: It isn't his own life he should worry about, it's the future of the nation he has created. Without him, it'll fall apart.

I don't understand why you ask for comments, then defend the person you asked people to comment on when they disagree with your views.
Agrigento
22-07-2004, 05:54
I don't understand why you ask for comments, then defend the person you asked people to comment on when they disagree with your views.

There isn't anything wrong with that really...most of the time people invite challenges to their views, because in the end it only helps them to strengthen their beliefs. Everyone likes a little debate every once in a while.
Sino
22-07-2004, 06:25
OOC: It isn't his own life he should worry about, it's the future of the nation he has created. Without him, it'll fall apart.

I don't understand why you ask for comments, then defend the person you asked people to comment on when they disagree with your views.

He does have some concerns about his own safety, in the last war, he was conducting the operations in secret, sitting in a missile train that was not even within reach of enemy forces. He was also disguised as a technician. In an earlier war with Japann, Liu was actively involved in sniping.
Magnus Valerius
22-07-2004, 07:19
Liu does not see eye to eye with Emporer Alexander when it comes killing members of one's own race.

Emperor Alexander II is a man of moderate conservatism and national unity, with great faith in his work and private life, while our previous bastard of an emperor was oppressive and a reactionary.

So, if General Liu has referred to the previous Emperor Alexander I, then General Liu is perfectly sane.
Sino
23-07-2004, 04:33
Emperor Alexander II is a man of moderate conservatism and national unity, with great faith in his work and private life, while our previous bastard of an emperor was oppressive and a reactionary.

So, if General Liu has referred to the previous Emperor Alexander I, then General Liu is perfectly sane.

Sanity confirmed.
Peng-Pau
25-07-2004, 20:13
"Big chip on the shoulder." That's an expression I don't understand.

He thinks the world owes him something, and he has a problem with everything.

That's the big chip on his shoulder.
Lunatic Retard Robots
01-08-2004, 00:12
Yeah.

Liu really needs to open his mind, to realize that, while he might disagree with other peoples' ideas, its no excuse to harm or kill them. That's outright horrible! I mean, take homosexuality. I am certainly not one, but I have no problem with it. There are so many other things corrupting society besides liberalism and homosexuality. If you count the end of the church burning people as corruption, I guess, yeah, things have become more corrupt.
Roania
01-08-2004, 00:26
"Liu... he's the Premier of Sino, yes?" Prime Minister Bencenoff asked her cabinet, as she looked out the window and onto the city. There was general agreement. "You think he's sane?"

First Marshal Tertakeran coughed. "I think...that he's about as sane as the prince."

Clarissa queried as to whether the First Marshal meant the Prince who collected butterflies, or the Prince who had killed a beggar because he didn't like the beggar's hat.

James Grey, Minister for Health and Social Security, thought for a second. Then he said, to universal acclaimation, "Yes."

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It is the decided policy of the duly-elected government of the Divine Imperium of Novar Ohan that Premier Liu is perfectly sane. For a given value of sane.