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The Proper Way To Deal With FWS

Celdrone
20-05-2004, 05:16
I have kept my nation out of all conflicts with FWS because I have seen how godmodishly he respondes. So I sat by and watched as he sucked a bunch of good role players down to his level with his actions. I have had enough. I propose a mass ignoring of Fascist White States. I hope that others will join me in this ignoring rather then post nuclear attacks that he will just ignore.

Fascist White States, I hereby IGNORE you.
Macisikan
20-05-2004, 06:34
Unlike Celdrone, I haven't had the sense or maturity to keep out of the numerous disputes around FWS. In fact, I've managed to have a scrap with one or two other nations along the way, because I stuck my nose in and I know that it is something I probably shouldn't have done.
I apologise for this; I should've known better.

But back on topic; it would be nice to see FWS glow in the dark, but I doubt that will happen due to some special reason...

Either way, I'm afraid I have to agree with Celdrone; this is by far the best method.

Fascist White States, you are now IGNORED.

EDIT: Magdha, you are also now IGNORED, for much the same reasons.

EDIT#2: Central Facehuggaria, this includes you as well; IGNORED.
Nycton
20-05-2004, 06:37
I swayed back and forth to ignore him. I told myself I was, yet I would always make that one exactly reply. But I have made up my mind.

Fascist White States and Maghda, simply ignored.
Transnapastain
20-05-2004, 06:42
Even though i try not to ignore anyone....i tihnk in this case, you may be right

"What we got here is a faluire to communicate, some men you just cant reach"

Guns and Roses ~ Civil War/ Prision Wardon ~ Cool Hand Luke

If he attacks me, ill fight, the NS community will know who won, even if he godmods, but, its a good idea not to go out of our way to RP with people who dony play by the rules

*wonders what his resposne to this will be*
Phoenixius
20-05-2004, 09:34
As I fear even if FWS was nuked to hell and back, he would still attempt to RP (in the worst way) with other nations, I hearby declare Phoenixius is IGNORING FWS.
Momanguise
20-05-2004, 09:42
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).
20-05-2004, 11:23
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.
Huzen Hagen
20-05-2004, 11:26
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.

see your numbers are godmodding, you have a pop of 20 million.
20-05-2004, 11:26
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.

see your numbers are godmodding, you have a pop of 20 million.

It's called levee en masse. Desperation, mass mobilization. Every nation in dire trouble has done it.
20-05-2004, 11:28
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.

see your numbers are godmodding, you have a pop of 20 million.


My regulars are 1 million strong (about 5% of my population). My 4 million reserves and militias are about 20% of the population and are only called during emergency (like now).
Iraqstan
20-05-2004, 11:36
, its a good idea not to go out of our way to RP with people who dony play by the rules

Curiously, aside from everyone jumping on the bandwagon, where in the rules of the site does it say you cannot godmod? Where does it list a punishment? mass mobalisations of people isnt unheard of, look at russia in world war 2, germany with their 'veteran' units which were made up of retired soldiers, their soldiers barely teenagers.... It isnt unheard of but yet he's not allowed to do it?

Where in the rules for this site does it say one cannot act out of desperation to save one's country in an Rp'd enviroment? I never remember seeing it. If you mean the arrogently claimed popular agreed suggestions then that is up to people to decide if they wish to follow those or not.

In my opinion those suggestions are leant more towards people with an old starting date and a post count out the patootie rather than be of any use to anyone.

Rather than make threads like this, which just show utter pettyness towards others note I'm not targetting here, this is a generalisation of this and many other topics let people play as they wish. If you dont like it, nobody forces you to read his stuff, nobody makes you continue to RP with him.

I forgot the point to my post, in the process of writing the above, oh wells I'm sure people will just find some way to tear it apart and proclaim him a n00b and further raise their digital ego but me, hell I think he's doing quite well, act of desperation lets spit out as many people as we can and force them to fight! I like it to be honest.....
Phoenixius
20-05-2004, 14:28
Well if you look at the stickies you may notice a thread about RPing in the forums - you may also notice upon reading it various references about godmoding in there.
Momanguise
20-05-2004, 15:35
Suggestions yes. However FWS has himself highly involved in the international scene. He should, therefore, present his RP's in a manner acceptable to the international scene.

There is a valid point in the 'total mobilisation' tatictia, but it must be noted that 'totals' are often ineffictive, cowardly and reckless. Just look at the Volkssturm and the Hitler Youth units.
British Communists
20-05-2004, 16:10
I can understand citizens getting involved in mobilisation, but its on a stupidly large scale. For them to all fed, clothed, armed and know what to do, the logistics is just immense. He'd literally need the rest of his population to run logistics, from babies to people on their death beds.
United Korean Nations
20-05-2004, 16:11
I am now blanket IGNOREing;

FWS and all Puppets.
Durtistan
20-05-2004, 17:08
I can understand citizens getting involved in mobilisation, but its on a stupidly large scale. For them to all fed, clothed, armed and know what to do, the logistics is just immense. He'd literally need the rest of his population to run logistics, from babies to people on their death beds.

Not only logistics, there's a cost issue. FWS could always divert his entire national budget to the production and purchase of arms I suppose, since he's facing ruin anyway. But these things take time.

And not that it matters but...a five mile wide river? Not godmodding? How wide is the Amazon at it's widest?
Aust
20-05-2004, 17:13
I've always ignored him.
Magdha
20-05-2004, 17:25
Look, My RPing skills are not very good but ignoring me is not the answer. I have decided to cut relations to FWS anyway.
Dr_Twist
20-05-2004, 17:27
Look, My RPing skills are not very good but ignoring me is not the answer. I have decided to cut relations to FWS anyway.

OCC: the Remove EVERYTHING from his nation including those ABM systems, If u have truly cut relations u wouldn't leave things like that in his nation.
Teh ninjas
20-05-2004, 18:08
OOC: It's pretty obvious that FWS has been god modding. How he so simply defeated Unified Sith, and his supporters is ridiculous. I have been pretty much ignoring anything FWS does and also it's numerous puppets. Frankly that's all I want to say about this issue.
Magdha
21-05-2004, 02:18
Look, My RPing skills are not very good but ignoring me is not the answer. I have decided to cut relations to FWS anyway.

OCC: the Remove EVERYTHING from his nation including those ABM systems, If u have truly cut relations u wouldn't leave things like that in his nation.

Deal, I am removing all support for FWS, If the invaders will allow me to dissasemble the weapons and put them on a ship I will take them back to Magdha.
Sigma Octavus
21-05-2004, 02:21
Maybe I have been blind to FWS' godmodding because of Sephrioth's extreme godmodding, but I'd be willing to fight FWS to make it stop.
21-05-2004, 02:22
OOC: It's pretty obvious that FWS has been god modding. How he so simply defeated Unified Sith, and his supporters is ridiculous. I have been pretty much ignoring anything FWS does and also it's numerous puppets. Frankly that's all I want to say about this issue.



We are using desperate suicide style attacks... That is how we're doing so good in certain aspects... Also, my regulars (about 1 million stron) all have the Soviet Bloc made VPR style suits. (you can confirm this)
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 02:55
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.

see your numbers are godmodding, you have a pop of 20 million.

It's called levee en masse. Desperation, mass mobilization. Every nation in dire trouble has done it.

Even if your regulars are five million, that is stretching it. The active military should be something like 2%, and a great deal of that will be support and logistics personell. So what you've got there is an economy and industry directed almost exclusively towards the military, MASSIVE desparation, and basically a weak and unsustainable nation. Keep this up for a year and you're gone...collapsed of your own accords.

Further, there is no such thing as a five mile wide river. Lakes can be five miles wide...rivers that are five miles wide are usually small and called 'lakes.'

And who needs to cross them? All anyone has to do is blockade you, you're gone...or just fly some air assaults on you, and you are also gone.

IC:

West Scotland, because of the feeling for a need to prove a point against a ridiculous regime that simply has to be taken out of power, has launched massive airstrikes against Facist White States.

Four squadrons of twelve AC-240 aircraft each have been routinely taking to the skies, launching and nearly depleting the cruise missile arsenal of West Scotland. Each AC-240 carried eighteen such CALCM missiles, and launched three complete volleys (where one volley equates to each of the 48 aircraft having launched all cruise missiles) in a six-hour period, totalling over 2500 cruise missiles.

While WS arms manufacturers are now being called upon to replenish the cruise missile arsenal as a result, we feel these strikes are necessary to take out the regime...

Radar installations, strategic military bases, military supply lines, and armoured columns were the only targets in these massive strikes; with up to four to six cruise missiles homing in on the same target for the highest priority targets because of the assumption of Patriot defense systems or similar in FWS possesion.

Even with the redundancy factored in, we fully expect the regime and national leadership to crumble, and its military to be devastated.
Magdha
21-05-2004, 03:01
has anyone decided to un-ignore me?
21-05-2004, 03:02
I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


Go ahead, just get by my 1 million regulars, 1 million reserves, 2 million magdhan men, 400,000 mobuto men, 1 million power and war men, and all the rest who are either already in Northern Province or are on their way... If you can cross the 5 mile wide river with no bridges, then you're good. Or you can start building bridges...

I am no God modder, but i won't respond seriously to other's god modding, that is why you're all upset.

see your numbers are godmodding, you have a pop of 20 million.

It's called levee en masse. Desperation, mass mobilization. Every nation in dire trouble has done it.

Even if your regulars are five million, that is stretching it. The active military should be something like 2%, and a great deal of that will be support and logistics personell. So what you've got there is an economy and industry directed almost exclusively towards the military, MASSIVE desparation, and basically a weak and unsustainable nation. Keep this up for a year and you're gone...collapsed of your own accords.

Further, there is no such thing as a five mile wide river. Lakes can be five miles wide...rivers that are five miles wide are usually small and called 'lakes.'

And who needs to cross them? All anyone has to do is blockade you, you're gone...or just fly some air assaults on you, and you are also gone.

IC:

West Scotland, because of the feeling for a need to prove a point against a ridiculous regime that simply has to be taken out of power, has launched massive airstrikes against Facist White States.

Four squadrons of twelve AC-240 aircraft each have been routinely taking to the skies, launching and nearly depleting the cruise missile arsenal of West Scotland. Each AC-240 carried eighteen such CALCM missiles, and launched three complete volleys (where one volley equates to each of the 48 aircraft having launched all cruise missiles) in a six-hour period, totalling over 2500 cruise missiles.

While WS arms manufacturers are now being called upon to replenish the cruise missile arsenal as a result, we feel these strikes are necessary to take out the regime...

Radar installations, strategic military bases, military supply lines, and armoured columns were the only targets in these massive strikes; with up to four to six cruise missiles homing in on the same target for the highest priority targets because of the assumption of Patriot defense systems or similar in FWS possesion.

Even with the redundancy factored in, we fully expect the regime and national leadership to crumble, and its military to be devastated.


We have missile interceptor systems...

Also I said 1 Million regulars
4-5 Million reserves / youths. (About 1.5 million are youths)
21-05-2004, 03:04
[quote="Huzen Hagen"][quote=Fascist White States][quote=Momanguise]I am prepared to give him one more chance (ie. I will RP an invasion, should he MEGAGODMOD then I shall ignore him for all eternity).


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West Scotland, because of the feeling for a need to prove a point against a ridiculous regime that simply has to be taken out of power, has launched massive airstrikes against Facist White States.

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You didn't account for how you got past my fighter planes, shoulder launched AA missiles (every 4th citizen has one)... Also, missile interceptors... You've mostly damaged our farms and a few minorly important industries. You've killed 2 generals... other than that, all you did was killed 30,000 civilians in Rhodes City.

Also, Hendrik Rhodes won 90% of the vote in a recent free, fair, and open to all election (the communists picked up 46 parliament seats, and nobody yelled about that)... How is this ridiculous? Why must he be taken out of power? Does the will of the people mean nothing to you.
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:04
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:06
No missile intercept system takes down 2592 cruise missiles...and we had anticipated this, which is why we, as stated above, launched 4-6 cruise missiles at the same target for high priority targets, to make sure we took them out.

WS national cruise missile supplies allow for another attack of similar stature...you had better have a better excuse for feeling no effect from this attack, FWS...and if you do, we shall simply repeat it.

How is this ridiculous? Your country is on the BRINK OF COLLAPSE!

As mentioned before, I attacked you with cruise missiles. Cruise missiles have a large range...they take off from WS, fly a few hundred miles, launch cruise missiles, go home.
21-05-2004, 03:08
You also killed or made unfit for combat 60 reserve regiments in Rhodes province... There are now 800 reserve regiments left in Rhodes Province....


It retaliation, I am going to consider launching a few 100,000 lbs of crop blight against you... I don't know yet.
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:13
This is quite amusing.
IC:

WeI did not aim at farms or minor industry...we aimed at your military. However good your missile defense systems are, and given your size, they're not very good - you are going to take heavier losses...much, much heavier losses. And how are you going to launch crop blight? Our missile defense systems, at our population of 1.75 billion, are sufficiently advanced to take out any cruise missile force you can muster, given the amount you're pouring just to maintain your humongous yet weak and disorganized military.

And no, I did not target cities. Again, I targeted military air bases, army training camps, missile defense systems, armoured columns, and such targets of strategic importance. Destroying a city is of no strategic value to me...I also find it amusing that a Facist state held free elections.

OOC-2: Even if your regulars are ONE million (sorry, I said five before), that's stretching it...
21-05-2004, 03:15
This is quite amusing.
IC:

WeI did not aim at farms or minor industry...we aimed at your military. However good your missile defense systems are, and given your size, they're not very good - you are going to take heavier losses...much, much heavier losses. And how are you going to launch crop blight? Our missile defense systems, at our population of 1.75 billion, are sufficiently advanced to take out any cruise missile force you can muster, given the amount you're pouring just to maintain your humongous yet weak and disorganized military.

And no, I did not target cities. Again, I targeted military air bases, army training camps, missile defense systems, armoured columns, and such targets of strategic importance. Destroying a city is of no strategic value
to me...I also find it amusing that a Facist state held free elections.


I already posted you took 60 reserve regiments out (killed or wounded). That is 60,000 men... What more do you want with 2,000 missiles... They're not wonder weapons you know.
21-05-2004, 03:17
This is quite amusing.
IC:

WeI did not aim at farms or minor industry...we aimed at your military. However good your missile defense systems are, and given your size, they're not very good - you are going to take heavier losses...much, much heavier losses. And how are you going to launch crop blight? Our missile defense systems, at our population of 1.75 billion, are sufficiently advanced to take out any cruise missile force you can muster, given the amount you're pouring just to maintain your humongous yet weak and disorganized military.

And no, I did not target cities. Again, I targeted military air bases, army training camps, missile defense systems, armoured columns, and such targets of strategic importance. Destroying a city is of no strategic value to me...I also find it amusing that a Facist state held free elections.

OOC-2: Even if your regulars are ONE million (sorry, I said five before), that's stretching it...

20 million population 5% of which = 1 million...

Also, my regulars are crack troops, well trained, battle hardened from numerous wars, riots, tribal troubles, etc... My reserves train about 60-100 days a year. Kids train 1-2 hours per day at school, and all through summer. We are a well trained and equiped army...
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:18
Didn't target soldiers....soldiers are not a job for cruise missiles, I'd launch an invasion to take care of soldiers. No, I targeted military structure...I don't care if I didn't neutralize even ten thousand of your military, what matters in these strikes are that your command centers are crippled, radar installations obliterated, many armoured columns and airfields damaged, military communications disrupted, and basically, your whole military, while being mostly alive, is in chaos.

Active army - regulars as you say - tend to be about 2% of the population...and a great deal of that 2% is support, maintenance, and logistics. Also, if you claim to train your people so much and equip them so well...equipment does not fall from the sky. You are in no economic shape to train a million elite units (heck, much larger nations are hard pressed to have a million elite units...) and equip them, for that matter.
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:19
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:21
OOC-I am currently laughing my arse off.

IC- The People's Republic of Gaia Rodina supports West Scotland and will send two hundred and twenty-five T-90 MBTs and two hundred AF-Z53 Crazy Penguin Bombers to crush Fascist White States. These should be more than enough to stomp this silly regime into prehistory. Maybe then we can get some sleep, as FWS is being so noisy that many Rodinan citizens are having trouble dozing off.
21-05-2004, 03:21
Didn't target soldiers....soldiers are not a job for cruise missiles, I'd launch an invasion to take care of soldiers. No, I targeted military structure...I don't care if I didn't neutralize even ten thousand of your military, what matters in these strikes are that your command centers are crippled, radar installations obliterated, many armoured columns and airfields damaged, military communications disrupted, and basically, your whole military, while being mostly alive, is in chaos.


I'm glad you know how my army works... They are trained to function without command structure, we pride ourselves on junior officer initiative.
We are like the KampfGruppes

We are not like Saddams troops that fall apart the second the general
stops talking to them... Also all command structures are located in bunkers about 1000 feet deep. I had all these built a long while ago, you can ask Magdha... Also our airfields and hardened against attack... Our armored columns are covered by defense grids... I think my military is doing just fine... Thank you.
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:21
OOC-I am currently laughing my arse off.

IC- The People's Republic of Gaia Rodina supports West Scotland and will send two hundred and twenty-five T-90 MBTs and two hundred AF-Z53 Crazy Penguin Bombers to crush Fascist White States. These should be more than enough to stomp this silly regime into prehistory. Maybe then we can get some sleep, as FWS is being so noisy that many Rodinan citizens are having trouble dozing off.
Hamanistan
21-05-2004, 03:23
Finally, someone is actually smart enough to use the one weapon godmodding can't beat, the all mighty Ignore cannon.

FWS you are the weakest link, goodbye.
21-05-2004, 03:23
OOC-I am currently laughing my arse off.

IC- The People's Republic of Gaia Rodina supports West Scotland and will send two hundred and twenty-five T-90 MBTs and two hundred AF-Z53 Crazy Penguin Bombers to crush Fascist White States. These should be more than enough to stomp this silly regime into prehistory. Maybe then we can get some sleep, as FWS is being so noisy that many Rodinan citizens are having trouble dozing off.


I will scramble 300 MiG-29s and 100 MiG-31s. Also air defenses around the nation are on full red alert. Citizens with Sterlas and Stingers have been told to be on the look out (about 5 million Fascian citizens have privately owned Shoulder launched SAMs)
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:27
Didn't target soldiers....soldiers are not a job for cruise missiles, I'd launch an invasion to take care of soldiers. No, I targeted military structure...I don't care if I didn't neutralize even ten thousand of your military, what matters in these strikes are that your command centers are crippled, radar installations obliterated, many armoured columns and airfields damaged, military communications disrupted, and basically, your whole military, while being mostly alive, is in chaos.


I'm glad you know how my army works... They are trained to function without command structure, we pride ourselves on junior officer initiative.
We are like the KampfGruppes

We are not like Saddams troops that fall apart the second the general
stops talking to them... Also all command structures are located in bunkers about 1000 feet deep. I had all these built a long while ago, you can ask Magdha... Also our airfields and hardened against attack... Our armored columns are covered by defense grids... I think my military is doing just fine... Thank you.

You are absolutely welcome. I'm glad to here this...without radar installations, a good deal of incoming aircraft can't be detected. And if one C&C detects them, it can't warn another who might have their radar knocked out. If they even get the relay to an airfield, it'll have been destroyed and no aircraft can be mobilized to meet the threat. You don't have the money to build thousands of command centers a thousand feet deep each. Airfields, hardened as they may, still get destroyed by incoming missiles. Armoured columns can be covered by defense grids; no defense grid is impermeable.

2592 cruise missiles destroys military infrastructure. If you claim you can operate without that, fine by me. You've got a massive army of basically men on their own, with no supply lines to replenish or feed them.
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:27
I will scramble 300 MiG-29s and 100 MiG-31s. Also air defenses around the nation are on full red alert. Citizens with Sterlas and Stingers have been told to be on the look out (about 5 million Fascian citizens have privately owned Shoulder launched SAMs)

Oh, sorry FWS. But according to my research (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Fascist%20White%20States&defenseprovided=1&defense=20&militarybudget=1) even with 20% of your GDP dedicated to military, you couldn't possibly support all those planes! Oh, look at that. They crashed. How sad.
21-05-2004, 03:28
I will scramble 300 MiG-29s and 100 MiG-31s. Also air defenses around the nation are on full red alert. Citizens with Sterlas and Stingers have been told to be on the look out (about 5 million Fascian citizens have privately owned Shoulder launched SAMs)

Oh, sorry FWS. But according to my research (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Fascist%20White%20States&defenseprovided=1&defense=20&militarybudget=1) even with 20% of your GDP dedicated to military, you couldn't possibly support all those planes! Oh, look at that. They crashed. How sad.

Oh my Goodness, if you bothered to read other threads you'd know my allies have sent me billions of dollars... But I guess you didn't How sad, your theory crashed... Until you educate yourself about the situation, you're ignored.
Hamanistan
21-05-2004, 03:30
Um, why are you retards fighting FWS on a thread that was created to IGNORE him. You see the word in capitol letters? That would be the key word in the sentence, lets say it together, ignore....ignore...one more time......ignore.
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:30
I'll play your game.

300 AF-X11 Interceptors (which are incredibly superior to MiG-31s in every way, thank you very much) and 200 AF-X1B Comets descended from high altitude to guard the heavy bombers as they dropped their GBU-28 "Bunker Busters" on military installations.
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:31
I'm sorry, your runways are mostly obliterated. If you try lifting off, well, good luck...also, some aircraft will have been destroyed...and you know, if you rely on ally money, a simple blockade will strangle you to death.

And Hamanistan, I personally hadn't realized he was godmodding this badly, so I thought I'd test him...I may ignore him though, after this.
21-05-2004, 03:33
I'll play your game.

300 AF-X11 Interceptors (which are incredibly superior to MiG-31s in every way, thank you very much) and 200 AF-X1B Comets descended from high altitude to guard the heavy bombers as they dropped their GBU-28 "Bunker Busters" on military installations.


Bunker buster bombs aren't miracle weapons designed to take out installations 1,000 feet below the ground... I am afraid all my command and control is just that, 1,000 feet below the ground.


Also I am glad you suffered no losses at all, God Modder... Ignored.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:35
the Shoulder launched missiles can't hit jet planes, they can only hit a plane during landing or takeoff, or a helicopter. If your shoulder launched are fired, they won't hit fighters or bombers
21-05-2004, 03:37
Well we have numerous Long-range SAM sites... Hundreds actually. They were all set up by allies long while ago... Go find the threads if you don't believe me.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:38
The IDF fleets still on the West coast flew off the 3 Yorktown II CVNs, The 270 F-35C JSF (stealth) came in . The 1st groups fired HARM missiles at AA radars, the planes were too high and fast for stingers. they were ready for fighters, but they appeared to have been killed by earlier strikes. The planes came in and bombed runways, bridges, ports, and military units
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:39
a) How do you detect aircraft? Radar installations! What happened to your radar installations? They blew up! They were destroyed! Or at least, most of them, enough so that detecting them is more difficult, and responding even more difficult.

b) Shoulder-launched SAMs have a top altitude of around 10,000 feet. Bombers fly five or more times as high...

c) As mentioned before, you haven't the funds to go digging thousand-feet-deep areas for command centers while equipping your crack elite one million man army of regulars, even with allies pouring in funds. Do you realize how much that costs?

d) He should suffer no losses, you have nothing to take them out. Most of your fighters are destroyed, damaged beyond repair, or grounded due to destroyed runways.

e) Your military has no infrastructure and no communications. It doesn't operate any more like a normal military...so you can't coordinate a response. Not going to happen.

f) West Scotland has reactivated four other squadrons of AC-240s in preparation for a second assault to destroy the remnants of radar and infrastructure for good.

g) What happened to your larger missile defense (SAM) installations? They blew up! Their radar tracking systems blew up! (SAMs, incidentally, don't take out cruise missiles...only aircraft, and since they are already crippled...;))
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:39
12 Ohio SSGNs launched 1,800 TLAMs at military formations. The warheads were 1,000lbs of anit-armor cluster munitions at troops
Magdha
21-05-2004, 03:40
Actually, we built those bunkers.
Gaia Rodina
21-05-2004, 03:40
Ah ah ah...you never even said your MiGs fired. Here, I'll show you how.


Polyarny Squadron and Chechov Squadron, totaling 50 AF-X11s, accelerated and began firing their .50 calliber machine guns, all while launching their AMRAAM (AIM-120) and Pheonix (AIM-54C) missiles at the encroaching MiGs. As each interceptor carried two Pheonix missiles and four AMRAAMs, 300 highly-accurate anti-air missiles.

Alpha Squadron and Omega Squadron, totaling 50 AF-X1Bs, accelerated past their slower counterparts and each launched their two AIM-120 missiles. This would total another 100 of the anti-air missiles.

OOC-I know, this is sucky RPing, but I gotta go to bed.

And FWS, don't even think about dodging those things. Can't be done, ESPECIALLY in those crappy MiGs of yours. I'd say you have about 25 left at most. And I've just broken the tip off the iceburg.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:43
The remaining MiGs were fired upon with 250 Phoenix missiles with a range of 115 miles. (that is a real missile and range)

The stealthed fighter bombers avoided radar installations and dropped JDAMs and cluster bombs on their targets
21-05-2004, 03:43
Ah ah ah...you never even said your MiGs fired. Here, I'll show you how.


Polyarny Squadron and Chechov Squadron, totaling 50 AF-X11s, accelerated and began firing their .50 calliber machine guns, all while launching their AMRAAM (AIM-120) and Pheonix (AIM-54C) missiles at the encroaching MiGs. As each interceptor carried two Pheonix missiles and four AMRAAMs, 300 highly-accurate anti-air missiles.

Alpha Squadron and Omega Squadron, totaling 50 AF-X1Bs, accelerated past their slower counterparts and each launched their two AIM-120 missiles. This would total another 100 of the anti-air missiles.

OOC-I know, this is sucky RPing, but I gotta go to bed.

And FWS, don't even think about dodging those things. Can't be done, ESPECIALLY in those crappy MiGs of yours. I'd say you have about 25 left at most. And I've just broken the tip off the iceburg.

50 caliber machine guns in air combat are a joke today... You fired 100 missiles at about 300-400 MiGs and I have 25 left??? Well which is it, did you send fighters to guard your planes or intercept my MiGs? How did they get their safely...God Modder... Ignored...

Oh my... I just dodged it... Oh well... And let me guess you didn't know from "MiGs scrambled" that firing on you was a given... Idiot.

God Modder. Ignored.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:44
post losses please
21-05-2004, 03:45
10,000 more Fascian Civilians dead to the continued terror bombing campaign.

50 MiG-29s shot down. 35 Pilots recovered after the escaped their planes.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:45
he actually fired 400 total, 100 of one type, 100 another and 200 of another
21-05-2004, 03:46
he actually fired 400 total, 100 of one type, 100 another and 200 of another


My Missile interceptors on the MiGs and from the ground would take out a number of them... I'd say 1/6 at most got through... Maybe 1/4...
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:46
How many military and support building losses, this invasion is being launched to give you a chance at proper RP, if you godmod, everyone here will Ignore you. :wink:
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:47
50-cal's are not a joke. You could fit them, it'll take a few sacrifices in hard points, but it can be done (Raysia's air competition with New Empire...he fit, what, a hundred caliber gun in the fuselage of an RF-11?)

FWS, again, 60-80% of those MiGs are grounded, destroyed, or damaged...MiGs do not scramble if they are destroyed, damaged, or have destroyed runways in front of it.

West Scotland's C-240 squadrons took to the skies once more, assailing FWS for six hours total, from initial to final strike, in a massive assault that totalled 2860 air launched cruise missiles - crippling what was left. Targets same/similar as last time; cruise missile arsenal nearly depleted this time.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:47
he actually fired 400 total, 100 of one type, 100 another and 200 of another


My Missile interceptors on the MiGs and from the ground would take out a number of them... I'd say 1/6 at most got through... Maybe 1/4...

WTF? There is no such thing as an interceptor for AA missiles :lol:
If you don't post heavy losses, he will ignore you
21-05-2004, 03:49
50-cal's are not a joke. You could fit them, it'll take a few sacrifices in hard points, but it can be done (Raysia's air competition with New Empire...he fit, what, a hundred caliber gun in the fuselage of an RF-11?)

FWS, again, 60-80% of those MiGs are grounded, destroyed, or damaged...MiGs do not scramble if they are destroyed, damaged, or have destroyed runways in front of it.

West Scotland's C-240 squadrons took to the skies once more, assailing FWS for six hours total, from initial to final strike, in a massive assault that totalled 2860 air launched cruise missiles - crippling what was left. Targets same/similar as last time; cruise missile arsenal nearly depleted this time.


FWS Hendrik Rhodes ordered a Defense Code 2 and ordered all nuclear tipped ICBMS (you'll figure out how many if they hit you) to be prepared for immediate launch target West Scotland.

Defense Code 1 means launch... Notice we haven't done that yet. But we will not allow you to terrorize and bomb our citizens and do nothing. We may launch... If you hear Code 1... It's all over for you.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:49
post losses for the 1,000s of cluster bombs and missiles fired on your troops
21-05-2004, 03:50
he actually fired 400 total, 100 of one type, 100 another and 200 of another


My Missile interceptors on the MiGs and from the ground would take out a number of them... I'd say 1/6 at most got through... Maybe 1/4...

WTF? There is no such thing as an interceptor for AA missiles :lol:
If you don't post heavy losses, he will ignore you


Fine 150 MiGs are grounded pending repairs.
21-05-2004, 03:50
post losses for the 1,000s of cluster bombs and missiles fired on your troops


10 more reserve regiments (10,000 troops) in Rhodes province killed. Leaving about 800 Reserve Regiments in the province.


Also 40,000 civilians killed by the terror bombs.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:51
if you go to def con 2, others will nuke you first, you can't have ICBMs in large numbers.

The TEACLIPPER is powered up to protect ourselves and our allies in event of launches
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:51
Even if there were, they would have no means of tracking if your radar installations are obliterated for the most part...

Edit: Sorry, after checking realistic numbers for a nation my size for cruise missiles, I found that I haven't quite depleted my supply.

A cruise missile hits a HAS, you aren't able to reply the MiG inside...60-80% of your MiGs are grounded or damaged beyond repair. Anywho, the second wave of strikes, about three hundred more cruise missiles than the first, has taken out remaining high priority military targets.

No civilians get to die...sorry. I don't target cities or civilian areas...only military ones. Consider this, you've no useful major air bases left, no useful communications centers left, barely any useful supply lines, your chain of command has been disrupted because you are now and have been operating on junior officers...so don't roleplay a typical army which mobilizes aircraft and airdefenses. You can't.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:52
A flight of 48 B-2A Spirits took off from bases in Unified Sith. They were carrying MOABs and were to strike Rhodes City and kill troops and infrastructure.
They were 1.5 NS hours from FWS Rhodes City (about a few RL minutes)
21-05-2004, 03:52
I have been sent so many nukes from friends... You wouldn't believe the numbers I have.
21-05-2004, 03:53
A flight of 48 B-2A Spirits took off from bases in Unified Sith. They were carrying MOABs and were to strike Rhodes City and kill troops and infrastructure.

All remaining planes... 200 MiG-21s. 300 MiG-25s. 50 MiG-31s. 100 MiG-29s are being sent up to stop this terror bombing of our cities.

Rhodes city is home to about 5 million people (well it was, before about 100,000 were killed in terror bombing)
Hamanistan
21-05-2004, 03:55
I personnally find it quite funny as to how you all fail to see the point in this thread. This is to ignore him you fools. And I also find it funny how FWS calls people godmodders and ignores them. Stop being a hipocryte and to everyone else, just ignore him, all you are doing is dropping to his level and letting him win.
21-05-2004, 03:55
Do to recent IDF attacks against the FWS, I am announcing I will start sponsoring any Islamic "terrorist" (Freedom Fighter) group that asks for my help.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:56
A flight of 48 B-2A Spirits took off from bases in Unified Sith. They were carrying MOABs and were to strike Rhodes City and kill troops and infrastructure.

All remaining planes... 200 MiG-21s. 300 MiG-25s. 50 MiG-31s. 100 MiG-29s are being sent up to stop this terror bombing of our cities.

Rhodes city is home to about 5 million people (well it was, before about 100,000 were killed in terror bombing)

These are stealth bombers that can't even be detected by top US and Russian radars, and you have no radar so you have no way of knowing they are coming. Besides I have 270 stealth fighters now launching 4 Phoenix Long range AA missiles, (range 115 miles) and they have 2 AAMRAAMS each and 2 AIM-9 SIdewinders each. Both of those will be launched later
21-05-2004, 03:57
Any Islamic group that wants nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons... TG me and tell me who you're going to use them against... We'll see it on a case by case basis.
IDF
21-05-2004, 03:58
Any Islamic group that wants nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons... TG me and tell me who you're going to use them against... We'll see it on a case by case basis.

I have a wall around my nation patroled by over 1 million soldiers (hard to sneak by that many in a nation the size of Israel. Plus I have about 250 ships in the cramped waterways patroling
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 03:58
I have been sent so many nukes from friends... You wouldn't believe the numbers I have.

OOC: What part of 60-80% did you not understand?

OOC-2: Hamanistan, my purpose was to test him to see how badly he would godmod; and to attack him in a manner that he can not possible sustain himself. This is so that he can be unquestionably ignored as his nation would be in complete shambles...so even if he did not godmod, he would be safely ignored.

Nukes are hell to maintain. You have to be very technologically advanced to store them and maintain them, friend...with your army - your elite, crack, well equipped army - even with aid, you don't have the money to launch any significant ICBMs at other nations.

Further, your nuclear silos and tracking systems have been and are being blown up...our intelligence is not that faulty; yours, on the other hand, is in shambles now.

The ABM systems we have been building up from when we were a much smaller nation to now has a nice shoot-down rate...coupled with redudancy, we can safely say we are safe from your poorly maintained, easily counter-measured, destroyed, unaided, and nonexistant ICBMs.
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:01
The 47 surviving B-2A's came over Rhodes and dropped their MOABs. Some were at the outskirts where they saw troops. (1 bomber had engine problems and returned to base). Some bombs were dropped in the city to kill infrastructure and get revenge at FWS for their terrorism.
21-05-2004, 04:01
I personnally find it quite funny as to how you all fail to see the point in this thread. This is to ignore him you fools. And I also find it funny how FWS calls people godmodders and ignores them. Stop being a hipocryte and to everyone else, just ignore him, all you are doing is dropping to his level and letting him win.



The word is spelled hypocrite. At least I'm not a dolt who makes no attempt to spell properly.
21-05-2004, 04:01
I have been sent so many nukes from friends... You wouldn't believe the numbers I have.

OOC: What part of 60-80% did you not understand?

OOC-2: Hamanistan, my purpose was to test him to see how badly he would godmod; and to attack him in a manner that he can not possible sustain himself. This is so that he can be unquestionably ignored as his nation would be in complete shambles...so even if he did not godmod, he would be safely ignored.

Nukes are hell to maintain. You have to be very technologically advanced to store them and maintain them, friend...with your army - your elite, crack, well equipped army - even with aid, you don't have the money to launch any significant ICBMs at other nations.

Further, your nuclear silos and tracking systems have been and are being blown up...our intelligence is not that faulty; yours, on the other hand, is in shambles now.

The ABM systems we have been building up from when we were a much smaller nation to now has a nice shoot-down rate...coupled with redudancy, we can safely say we are safe from your poorly maintained, easily counter-measured, destroyed, unaided, and nonexistant ICBMs.

We have hardened silos... I am so glad you know all my stuff is in shambles.

God Modder, ignored.
Shangia
21-05-2004, 04:01
We have FWS to be part of Shangia. We need more land therefore, we are annexing FWS.
They have 24 hours to surrender and we 5 fleets on their way to FWS to begin attacks and missiles are being readied for launch.
We demand FWS unconditional surrender and acceptance of the annexation of their nation into Shangian rule.
We will enslave their people but treat them humanely.
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:03
FWS: How did you pay to maintain the hardened silos? Read Bear and the Dragon, you will learn JDAMs can kill hardened silos
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:11
post damage from MOAB strike please
21-05-2004, 04:14
10,000 civilians killed.
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:16
with 47 MOABs, it would be more than that, and I also targeted troops, not civilians, but I know some will die.

OOC: This is a godmod, I target troops and you say only civilians die, no wonder everyone else ignores you
West Scotland
21-05-2004, 04:21
OOC : Going back to my break from NationStates now...after this minor and slight disruption. I hereby declare FWS crippled, and dare any to challenge this statement.

IC:

Six hundred more cruise missiles rained unto Facist White States in the early hours of this morning, concluding WS involvement in the incident directly through military force. A total of over or nearly six thousand air launched conventional cruise missiles have been launched, and knocked out key radar installations, communications systems, control centers, military air bases, and to a certain extent armoured columns. While not much damage has been done to the actual forces of the military, the structure and support, particularly in logistics, intelligence, and supply lines, is now nonexistant.

Coupled with other severe and heavy attacks by numerous aircraft in the region, none all of which are affiliated or coordinated directly with West Scotland except Gaia Rodina's (and that only was in support of us; no communications were exchanged between our governments regarding the manner of attack), whose results are still to a certain extent unknown, we feel it is safe to say that FWS is on the brink of collapse.

Any statement otherwise will be met with doubt and displeasure; such sustained attacks on a nation led by such a cruel despot (5 million army with reserves! Good lord!) can not possibly result in a thriving nation, to say the least. Rumours have it that nuclear silos were identified and neutralized as well; still, WS is going on higher alert and taking steps necessary for self defense.

Facist White States is a nation in shambles. The sustained efforts against it shattered its military structure and backbone, and further strikes by other nations have shattered its moral, will to fight, and destroyed much of its army. Facist White States is hereby no longer recognized as a nation; and we implore others involved to help rebuild it.

OOC:

I am going away, and so can't rebuild it myself. However...realize that FWS is not in any state to do anything of any sort except surrender to other forces. Whether or not I'll like this remains to be seen, when I come back in a month or so, I guess...if I even bother.

Anywho, FWS has no sustainable military. Realistically there would be a high desertion rate by this time, considering there is absolutely no incentive to fight and little ability to keep order. Junior officers run the military, after all...I have done my bidding here; made attacks that would cripple FWS and seen him godmod in return. If he does not accept that he is crippled, he is ignored by me, and so in accordance with Cedrone (who said he is a godmodder)'s OOC reasons and several other nations' IC reasons, if FWS refuses to accept this defeat, we ask all to ignore him...and let this thread die.

And IDF, FWS no longer needs to maintain them. They're gone.
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:24
total IDF forces sent
IDF Naval forces in area: (predeployed in previous war here)
3 CVBGs and 2 SAGs have been sent with 2 Sub squadrons

3 Yorktown II CVNs (270 F-35 C total here)
3 Charles de Gaulle CVN (135 more F-35C here)
2 Arizona BBG
4 Iowa BBG
6 Kirov CG
14 Ticonderoga CG
22 Arleigh BUrke DDG
24 Farragut DDG (stealth)
8 Kidd DDG
17 OHP FFG
14 Grisha V FF
8 fleet suppliers

8 Galaxy SSN
3 Virginia SSN
4 Seawolf SSN
7 688i SSN
12 Ohio SSGN

The Airforce is being sent to Sith bases for strike missions, being sent are:
144 F-15E
132 F-15C
192 F-16C
60 A-10 Warthogs
72 F-14D
96 F/A-18E
36 KC-135 Extenders
24 F-117
48 B-2A
148 F-22A
256 F-35B JSF (in addition to carrier based planes)
48 B-52H
16 E-3C Sentry AWACs
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:38
bump for reaponse
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:45
bump for FWS to post casualties
21-05-2004, 04:48
Joseph Cannon reported to the people: "In typical jewish fashion, they continued to attack or cities and killed 10,000 more workers, workers are something they cannot relate to, because work is a concept foreign to the jew. He needs to leech off of the aryan peoples, those who try to shake off the jewish parasites, well the jew agitates for war. Remember why we fight, remember the jews will rue the day they declared war on the aryan."
A Few Rich People
21-05-2004, 04:50
ROFLMFAO!

So he has devolved from a fascist to a nazi? Or just anti-semetic?
IDF
21-05-2004, 04:58
Joseph Cannon reported to the people: "In typical jewish fashion, they continued to attack or cities and killed 10,000 more workers, workers are something they cannot relate to, because work is a concept foreign to the jew. He needs to leech off of the aryan peoples, those who try to shake off the jewish parasites, well the jew agitates for war. Remember why we fight, remember the jews will rue the day they declared war on the aryan."

In response to this, the 3 TEACLIPER systems (in development since May 1, (check post history in other words 20 NS years)

We have 4 Ohio class SSBNs launching 24 Trident II D5s each. Each missile has 12 MIRVs of 450 Kt. (Hiroshima was 10 Kt). Each sub has 288 warheads x 4 subs, (do the math) launched at FWS to wipe this facist Nazi off the face of the earth. The closeness of the subs means a flight time of 6 minutes. The super bomb may be set off, but it is on the ground and mountains to the East ought to protect his Eastern neighbors. the world won't be destroyed but the crater will be glass
21-05-2004, 04:59
Joseph Cannon reported to the people: "In typical jewish fashion, they continued to attack or cities and killed 10,000 more workers, workers are something they cannot relate to, because work is a concept foreign to the jew. He needs to leech off of the aryan peoples, those who try to shake off the jewish parasites, well the jew agitates for war. Remember why we fight, remember the jews will rue the day they declared war on the aryan."

In response to this, the 3 TEACLIPER systems (in development since May 1, (check post history in other words 20 NS years)

We have 4 Ohio class SSBNs launching 24 Trident II D5s each. Each missile has 12 MIRVs of 450 Kt. (Hiroshima was 10 Kt). Each sub has 288 warheads x 4 subs, (do the math) launched at FWS to wipe this facist Nazi off the face of the earth. The closeness of the subs means a flight time of 6 minutes. The super bomb may be set off, but it is on the ground and mountains to the East ought to protect his Eastern neighbors. the world won't be destroyed but the crater will be glass

All your missiles are intercepted by allied provided SDI. You are ignored for god modding and atrocious spelling.
IDF
21-05-2004, 05:00
OOC: one thing is in line here, a classic Ken "Hawk" Harrelson (he is the White Sox's announcer)
"HE GONE!!!!!!!"
A Few Rich People
21-05-2004, 05:00
Your allies have forsaken you fool!
IDF
21-05-2004, 05:01
how is this godmodding, I'm larger than the US in population and used less weapons than they have?

You don't have that good SDI, SLBMs are designed to have too short a flight time for it
IDF
21-05-2004, 05:01
Magdha, who supplied the SDI, left with everything
Shangia
21-05-2004, 05:04
Nice telegram left for IDF. :twisted:
Callisdrun
21-05-2004, 05:32
Ah, the most deadly weapon of mass destruction... the great IGNORE.
Transnapastain
21-05-2004, 05:52
looks like the best way to deal with him has been found...he took himslef out...awesome
Celdrone
21-05-2004, 06:01
Please forgive me for what I am about to do.


THIS THREAD IS FOR IGNORING FWS, NOT ATTACKING HIM! REPLY TO IGNORE THAT IDIOT, NOT TO DESTROY HIM ONE MORE TIME. MY GOD PEOPLE, HE IS THE BIGGEST, UNMITIGATED JACKASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET!! JUST IGNORE HIM.

So sorry to do that.
Transnapastain
21-05-2004, 06:03
Please forgive me for what I am about to do.


THIS THREAD IS FOR IGNORING FWS, NOT ATTACKING HIM! REPLY TO IGNORE THAT IDIOT, NOT TO DESTROY HIM ONE MORE TIME. MY GOD PEOPLE, HE IS THE BIGGEST, UNMITIGATED JACKASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET!! JUST IGNORE HIM.

So sorry to do that.


no....tell us how you really feel ;)

yeah....if he ever dares show his face around here again.....IGNORED
Armed Lumberjacks
21-05-2004, 06:04
Please forgive me for what I am about to do.


THIS THREAD IS FOR IGNORING FWS, NOT ATTACKING HIM! REPLY TO IGNORE THAT IDIOT, NOT TO DESTROY HIM ONE MORE TIME. MY GOD PEOPLE, HE IS THE BIGGEST, UNMITIGATED JACKASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET!! JUST IGNORE HIM.

So sorry to do that.


no....tell us how you really feel

yeah....if he ever dares show his face around here again.....IGNORED

agreed

IGNORED
Roania
21-05-2004, 06:06
Sure, why not.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:qhSujeR6vzAJ:www.rpgamer.com/games/arcadia/soa/screens/soa_17.jpg

Ignore-cannoned.
21-05-2004, 06:31
hi :)
Transnapastain
21-05-2004, 06:36
umm.....hello
21-05-2004, 06:44
That was fun to watch. I am a fairly new country. Can anyone tell me how to figure out how to spend money on stuff? I read a sticky on how to figure out GDP, but I don't understand it, sorry. Do I need a military or is that optional? Also I am willing to enter into any trade agreements. The people of Haasitaina are very industrious. Currently there has been a large interest in our hand painted hummels. The amount of love and care put into each piece is simply amazing! Scientist and food creators have invented a desert topping that is 50% marshmallow fluff, 50% circus peanuts, 100% delicious! Finally, what does 'bump' and 'OOC' mean?
Thanks
Celdrone
21-05-2004, 06:45
OOC: OOC means Out OF Character. A BUMP is used to bring a thread to the first page so that people will respond to it.
21-05-2004, 06:47
Thanks :D
Transnapastain
21-05-2004, 06:48
okay man/woman

OOC means out of charactor, basicly, something not part of the game

OOC: Dude, i went tos chool today and..." is an OOC statement unless part of an RP, the ENTIRE General forum is OOC


You can do ANYTHING you want, within reason, here...let FWS be an example to you on what not to do

No, yuo dont have to have a military, but...i'd recomend it

you spend money based on your economy, just be realistic

if you have frightening, no one tends to question you, but yuo still cant buy like 42432474357553275025025705 F-22's

the varyng degrees of economy effect what you can buy, Imploded cant afford much of anything....frightening can afford almost anything

once again, though, its entirely free form
21-05-2004, 06:54
Does tax rate and population size have anything to do with what I can buy? NS is a pretty cool game but there are a lot of economic holes. i.e. What is my unemployment rate? Am I running a deficit? Or do I just take that it says 'superb' or 'frightening' and role-play from there?
Celdrone
21-05-2004, 06:57
Use this to find out how much your budget is.
http://www.llogicpcs.net/jack/cash.htm
And this is not the proper forum for these kind of questions.
21-05-2004, 06:59
OK bye. Thanks again for destroying FWS. Blind hatred is also stupid.
Transnapastain
21-05-2004, 07:01
post questions like that on "Gmaeplay" :)
IDF
21-05-2004, 13:16
Please forgive me for what I am about to do.


THIS THREAD IS FOR IGNORING FWS, NOT ATTACKING HIM! REPLY TO IGNORE THAT IDIOT, NOT TO DESTROY HIM ONE MORE TIME. MY GOD PEOPLE, HE IS THE BIGGEST, UNMITIGATED JACKASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET!! JUST IGNORE HIM.

So sorry to do that.


no....tell us how you really feel

yeah....if he ever dares show his face around here again.....IGNORED

agreed

IGNORED

amen, as of now FWS does not exist according to IDF and her allies
IDF
21-05-2004, 13:17
Please forgive me for what I am about to do.


THIS THREAD IS FOR IGNORING FWS, NOT ATTACKING HIM! REPLY TO IGNORE THAT IDIOT, NOT TO DESTROY HIM ONE MORE TIME. MY GOD PEOPLE, HE IS THE BIGGEST, UNMITIGATED JACKASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET!! JUST IGNORE HIM.

So sorry to do that.


no....tell us how you really feel

yeah....if he ever dares show his face around here again.....IGNORED

agreed

IGNORED

amen, as of now FWS does not exist according to IDF and her allies

The same goes to god modding Power and War who made the doomdsday bomb and is a godmodder
Allanea
21-05-2004, 13:28
Official Allanean Government Statement

As of now, Allanea officially recognises FWS until further notice.
Notquiteaplace
21-05-2004, 14:15
The notquiteaplace recognises FWS but keeps their finger over the red "launch the ignore ICBM" button.
IDF
21-05-2004, 17:08
if you haven't ignored FWS yet read this, then you will ignore him
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146981&highlight=
Irondin
21-05-2004, 17:11
god he used that fucking bomb? for god sakes.....
Fuhrer landw
21-05-2004, 17:12
Communist inteference is counter-productive in this debacle..back off!
Celdrone
21-05-2004, 19:52
Bring
Up
Message
Pronto
IDF
21-05-2004, 21:51
bump
New Kingman
21-05-2004, 21:56
By order of the Prime Minsiter, Fascist White States is hereby IGNORED. All FWS citizens in New Kingman must cease to exist within the hour.
Magdha
22-05-2004, 01:25
We recognize, but have no diplomatic ties to FWS.
22-05-2004, 01:29
We recognize, but have no diplomatic ties to FWS.


We recently closed our embassy in Magdha and will refuse to communicate with the traitors. More victory parades for Fascians and real allies to enjoy... We won't have to share them with Magdhans now.
Magdha
22-05-2004, 02:55
We recognize, but have no diplomatic ties to FWS.


We recently closed our embassy in Magdha and will refuse to communicate with the traitors. More victory parades for Fascians and real allies to enjoy... We won't have to share them with Magdhans now.

VICTORY PARADES?!?!?!?!!?

Can't you see that your nation is dying? You have two allies left and one is ignored by almost everyone!!!! You are stuck between a rock and a hard place my old friend.
22-05-2004, 02:59
We recognize, but have no diplomatic ties to FWS.


We recently closed our embassy in Magdha and will refuse to communicate with the traitors. More victory parades for Fascians and real allies to enjoy... We won't have to share them with Magdhans now.

VICTORY PARADES?!?!?!?!!?

Can't you see that your nation is dying? You have two allies left and one is ignored by almost everyone!!!! You are stuck between a rock and a hard place my old friend.
The entire NS communist (NS meaning National Socialist) will hasten to my defense... They already have millions in place in my nation. Mobutoland has sent 400,000 and will keep sending more.

The united Fascian people's march on to victory.
Magdha
22-05-2004, 03:02
No, communist forces are seeking to destroy you. make peace before it is too late.
22-05-2004, 03:08
No, communist forces are seeking to destroy you. make peace before it is too late.


Read the Telegram I am sending you.

Or can we speak via Yahoo or MSN?
Magdha
22-05-2004, 03:20
we will speak via AIM.
22-05-2004, 03:23
we will speak via AIM.


I don't have AIM....

Can we speak via IRC?
Magdha
22-05-2004, 03:29
we will speak via AIM.


I don't have AIM....

Can we speak via IRC?

I'll get MSN then......
Sturmschutzen
22-05-2004, 04:07
I hearby ignore FWS and all of his puppets and encourage others to do the same. Ignore FWS and all his stupid allies that know as much about warfare as a retard in a special ed class....wait scratch that no need to offend those with real disabilities they are even more stupid.
Magdha
22-05-2004, 04:44
I hearby ignore FWS and all of his puppets and encourage others to do the same. Ignore FWS and all his stupid allies that know as much about warfare as a retard in a special ed class....wait scratch that no need to offend those with real disabilities they are even more stupid.

Thats a bit cold against retarded people.
Celdrone
27-05-2004, 05:10
BUMP
27-05-2004, 05:15
BUMP


This is an old thread... You're annoying for "Bumping it"... Let old things die...
Celdrone
27-05-2004, 05:30
OOC: Only if you let your nation die.