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the Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation is still looking to purchase space vessels worthy for future use and to build a base for its Space Defense Forces. California is looking for vessels that can not only perform militarily but also able to perform in the areas of speed and the ability to transport several thousand tons of raw materials.

So in effect I wuill be needing battleships, cruisers, transport ships and basically all military space craft that could possibly be needed in a space fleet.

President & Potentate General, Sandra M. Devnostraeva.
the Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation.

I invite California and Alaska to visit Skeelzania's official storefront. (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=404) While none of our ships are designed expressely for caring cargo, most have fighter bays which can easily be converted.

As an added bonus, all ships come with a Tachyon Jump Drive (rated at 14 times the speed of light) standard.

If you cannot find what you seek at our storefront, you may want to visit the others found at the International Mall.

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php

I invite California and Alaska to visit Skeelzania's official storefront. (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=404) While none of our ships are designed expressely for caring cargo, most have fighter bays which can easily be converted.

As an added bonus, all ships come with a Tachyon Jump Drive (rated at 14 times the speed of light) standard.

If you cannot find what you seek at our storefront, you may want to visit the others found at the International Mall.

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php

Your prices aren't just absurd, their ridiculuous. 13 billion for a dreadnought? It'd cost more than that do develop a single cannon for one of those beasts. 13 billion barely pays for creating terrestrial war systems, let alone spacial ones. Your prices need some massive adjustments.

I won't even comment on the fact that with your founding date you are already selling major fleets. Of course, people nowadays think that once they are founded they can just do anything, so what can I do about it?

In case you don't know my real founding date is Feb 6, 03, so don't whine to me that your older than I am or some such nonsense.

OOC: During the rare times I sell my ships, I don't even sell frigates for less than 100 billion... and that's just for the police cutters.

[code:1:8e9cc93797]
Ident: CEO Llhaabra
Loc: Eeorouh Aero-Space Industries
Dir: President Sandra M. Devnostraeva.
Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation.
Sub: You want a ship?

President Devnostraeva,

I am authorized to sell a pair of heavy Bulk Transports to you. The technology is a bit dated for us, but the ships are solid and still see use to this day. We offer you the price of 70 billion for a pair of these ships. The attached packet holds information on these ships. The image attached to the packet is one of the transports for sale awaiting outside the Orbital Shipyard.

Best regards, and good fortune in your endeavors.
Ceo Llhaabra[/code:1:8e9cc93797]
http://www.5amfunnies.com/sakkra/space/leaving.JPG

Ship statictics:
Height/Width/Length: 400 meters/350 meters/900 meters
Weight: 16,000.3 tons
Hull: Layered Titanium/Osmium outer hull and Cermite 13/14 inner. Each has a thickness of 1m. The inner hull has a thin layer of aluminum about 1'.
Shielding: Kastaa Power Works EmDCM shield MK II.
Armament: 2 defensive missile pods with 24 Serpent's Tooth Anti-missile rockets each.
1 point defense 40 mm Eximer Laser turret
Crew: 15; 1 Captain, 2 pilots, 2 co-pilots, 2 engineers, communications officer, navigator, 4 missile crew, 1 gunner 1 load master.
Cockpit: Reinforced with 40mm thick steel. 5 meters long by 8 meters wide by 3 meters tall. Cockpit can be sealed and rendered air-tight and pressurized to act as an escape module should the ship be destroyed. Fits 30 in a cramped fashion.
Passengers: 50 additional maximum. 6,000 tons of cargo can be held in its six cargo pods. Each pod is detachable from the transport.
Life Support duration: 6 months.
Max speed: Not designed for atmospheric flight. Accelerates at 325 meters per second. Best sustained acceleration is 2200 meters per second.
Fusion Engines: 3 Kreeg IVb.A variant C engines.
Sub-Space Engines: E.A.I. III civilian sub-space drive. Traverses sub-space at a rate of 1 light-year per hour.
Engine Life: 6 months before requiring coolant replacement and alignment of laser-pinch containment field, and replacement of the fusion core. Has a back-up magnetic bottle containment field as well.
Features: The Heavy Bulk Transport has 4 unisex restrooms and 2 airlocks (double hatch) joining to the cockpit. Also contains bunk-style bedding for the crew. Cockpit has inertia-absorbing gelatinous full-body crash chairs.
The Heavy Bulk Transport has a night-vision and telescopic camera. AV communications equipment, Wide-band and tight-band radio receiver/transmitter. It also features microwave radar with a range of 50,000 kilometers

OOC: During the rare times I sell my ships, I don't even sell frigates for less than 100 billion... and that's just for the police cutters.
Exactly.

Your prices aren't just absurd, their ridiculuous. 13 billion for a dreadnought? It'd cost more than that do develop a single cannon for one of those beasts. 13 billion barely pays for creating terrestrial war systems, let alone spacial ones. Your prices need some massive adjustments.

I won't even comment on the fact that with your founding date you are already selling major fleets. Of course, people nowadays think that once they are founded they can just do anything, so what can I do about it?

In case you don't know my real founding date is Feb 6, 03, so don't whine to me that your older than I am or some such nonsense.

Noted. The prices do seem cheap (they have been doubled since this posting, if it makes you any happier), but I never said the ships were actually on-par with those of other nations. The dreadnaught, for example, is armed with 42 torpedo launchers and is just over 1500m in length. Now, a BB used by Xanthal is somewhere around 6 miles wide, has a few thousand torpedo launchers, and also costs a few hundred times more.

13 billion barely pays for creating terrestrial war systems, let alone spacial ones. I'll believe this when you show me a 13billion dollar tank.

As for Crimmond and your $100 billion dollar frigates, can you produce any stats for these ships, to see if they are actually on the same level as my ships?

As for the "your country is too new waaah!" comment made by Tremalkier: I for one don't feel like waiting 6 months to be able to RP the way I want. Bleh =P

Your prices aren't just absurd, their ridiculuous. 13 billion for a dreadnought? It'd cost more than that do develop a single cannon for one of those beasts. 13 billion barely pays for creating terrestrial war systems, let alone spacial ones. Your prices need some massive adjustments.

I won't even comment on the fact that with your founding date you are already selling major fleets. Of course, people nowadays think that once they are founded they can just do anything, so what can I do about it?

In case you don't know my real founding date is Feb 6, 03, so don't whine to me that your older than I am or some such nonsense.

Noted. The prices do seem cheap (they have been doubled since this posting, if it makes you any happier), but I never said the ships were actually on-par with those of other nations. The dreadnaught, for example, is armed with 42 torpedo launchers and is just over 1500m in length. Now, a BB used by Xanthal is somewhere around 6 miles wide, has a few thousand torpedo launchers, and also costs a few hundred times more.

13 billion barely pays for creating terrestrial war systems, let alone spacial ones. I'll believe this when you show me a 13billion dollar tank.

As for Crimmond and your $100 billion dollar frigates, can you produce any stats for these ships, to see if they are actually on the same level as my ships?

As for the "your country is too new waaah!" comment made by Tremalkier: I for one don't feel like waiting 6 months to be able to RP the way I want. Bleh =P
Try 15.

As for a 13 billion dollar tank, I can show you a thousand. Look at every single storefront. Think the prices are that high solely due to production? No. To develop costs immense funds. Thats why nations like yours are the epitome of bad planning in my mind. You skip infrastructure all together. To make a tank alone you have to have: Factories for steel, rubber, armor, armanents, sensor equipment, treads, gear systems, engines, etc. Not to mention needing to build sewers, hospitals, farms, etc. You need to build infrastructure before you can build space frigates. Otherwise everything everyone else has done and waited for makes no sense.

You want a 13 billion dollar tank? How about a submarine that cost trillions to develope? How about an armored infantry suit that cost hundreds of billions to develop?

You can't just skip that, its an insult to everyone else.

As for Crimmond and your $100 billion dollar frigates, can you produce any stats for these ships, to see if they are actually on the same level as my ships? Heavy frontal armor, AI, a few thousand short range missiles, two ion batteries and a couple medium lasers. main engines are the same as secondary engines of the cruisers, to make things cheaper to maintain and manned with crews that are told that 'death above defeat and dishonor' is their motto(crews like this are standard in my fleets, meaning that if a ship loses weapons capability and the battle is going bad for the fleet... well, lets just say having a heavy battlecruiser ram into the enemies command ship will lower morale a few notches.)

Wombat News Report (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3185440#3185440)

Once again Clairmont extends an offer for Californa & Alaska to come and see our hardware. If interest towards business is shown, further negotiations can be arranged.

In order to see what we have to offer, visit here:
http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/villerainamo/SpaceWarfare.htm

And for primarily cargo oriented vessels, visit here: (note, ships at the bottom of the page)
http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/villerainamo/CivilianSectorProducts.htm

OOC: Ever heard of currency exchange.... god..

The Gregor Corporation (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?s=cce2b88f17d4ae3c7c9b5847a480fd69&showforum=11)

Its good to see all those IM links :)

Curious Clairmont... could your MK-11 Energy Weapons Platform be used against ground targets?

Ok Clairmont here's a list :P

How much would this run me?

one Mk-11 Energy Weapon Platform
three Righteous Fury-class Fleet Carriers
three Manticore-class Superdreadnoughts
two Inquisitor-class Pod-Layer Superdreadnoughts
four Eternal Vigilance-class Supermonitors
four MK-7 SBMHAWK Batteries
three Perseverance-class Dreadnoughts

Check out my storefront, here (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?s=65487fa2c011bee5861efc944fa90ec8&showforum=35).

http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?s=d6bb67e545ca06a9270cc440f828d1da&showforum=42

Please go to my store. I need people to buy stuff.

NOTE: I actually need to get rid of the Shuttles on the ships....the Scarabs got scrapped.

Curious Clairmont... could your MK-11 Energy Weapons Platform be used against ground targets?

Sure, its just a matter of aligning the weapon afterall. And a Graser is basically a Gamma Ray Laser, the beam doesnt degrade so much when passing thru athmosphere that it wouldnt be usefull when it hits the ground. The downside with the Graser is that since its a Gamma Ray weapon, it leaves a lot of backround radiation.

Ok Clairmont here's a list

How much would this run me?


one Mk-11 Energy Weapon Platform

three Righteous Fury-class Fleet Carriers

three Manticore-class Superdreadnoughts

two Inquisitor-class Pod-Layer Superdreadnoughts

four Eternal Vigilance-class Supermonitors

four MK-7 SBMHAWK Batteries

three Perseverance-class Dreadnoughts

Wow...Four Supermonitors? These things mass over 120 million tons, they are literal mountains in space and really more like command ships and flagships than regular Line Ships.

Anyways, the Orbital Weapons Platforms are cheap, which is the whole point with them so you can build a real network of OWP's with relatively low cost.

Anyways: (Note, im going with relatively realistics costs here, as in over a mile long heavully armored Spaceships full of high-grade tech not costing the same as a Nimitz-class Carrier which frankly is stupid)

MK-11 OWP: 120 Million $/Unit
Fleet Carrier: 165 Billion $/Ship = 3x165 Billion
Manticore SD: 320 Billion $/Ship = 3x320 Billion
Inquisitor SD(P): 370 Billion $/Ship = 2x370 Billion
Supermonitor: (i never really planned this for sales so this price is really a quickly thrown off-the-top-of-my-head thing) 920 Billion $/Ship = 4x920 Billion
MK-7 OWP: 180 Million $/Unit = 4x180 Million
Perseverance DN: 210 Billion $/Ship = 3x210 Billion

Total: 6,505,840,000,000 = 6.505840 Trillion

Tough, i would recommend that you compose your order of Battle with some lighter ships as screening and reconnaissance elements with the heavier ships being the actual core of the Order of Battle.

the Scarabs got scrapped.Hey! I gave you them things and now you just toss them aside? How dare you! :P

the Scarabs got scrapped.Hey! I gave you them things and now you just toss them aside? How dare you! :P

The pic stopped working :P . I had no choice.If it makes you feel better, the Senate members each have one. It's just no longer in active service.

Wow...Four Supermonitors? These things mass over 120 million tons, they are literal mountains in space and really more like command ships and flagships than regular Line Ships.

Anyways, the Orbital Weapons Platforms are cheap, which is the whole point with them so you can build a real network of OWP's with relatively low cost.

Anyways: (Note, im going with relatively realistics costs here, as in over a mile long heavully armored Spaceships full of high-grade tech not costing the same as a Nimitz-class Carrier which frankly is stupid)

MK-11 OWP: 120 Million $/Unit
Fleet Carrier: 165 Billion $/Ship = 3x165 Billion
Manticore SD: 320 Billion $/Ship = 3x320 Billion
Inquisitor SD(P): 370 Billion $/Ship = 2x370 Billion
EV Supermonitor: (i never really planned this for sales so this price is really a quickly thrown off-the-top-of-my-head thing) 920 Billion $/Ship = 4x920 Billion
MK-7 OWP: 180 Million $/Unit = 4x180 Million
Perseverance DN: 210 Billion $/Ship = 3x210 Billion

Total: 6,505,840,000,000 = 6.505840 Trillion

Tough, i would recommend that you compose your order of Battle with some lighter ships as screening and reconnaissance elements with the heavier ships being the actual core of the Order of Battle.

I understand that the Supermonitors are more Command Ships/Flagships than regular line ships... thats why I want four of them. ;) As for your suggestion I think I will take that into some serious consideration, so I will make a second order. :)

So on top of my $6,505,840,000,000 order add the following:

- 45 Lancer Class Cutters
- 70 S/F-8 Wolfhound Strike Fighters
- 70 S/F-10 Liberator Heavy Strike Fighters
- 45 Thunderhawk-class Pinnace/Light-Assault Shuttles
- 60 Intruder-class Heavy Assault Shuttles
- 4 Warlord-class Battlecruiser
- 3 Vanguard-class Space Fortresses

California needs a massive Space Defensive Fleet, and besides Clairmont... if California needs more you will be considered California's Preferred Choice.

Sandra M. Devnostræva,
President of the Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation

Your new order is confirmed and forwarded to Hephaestus shipyards for the appropriate production planning. Due to the nature of your earlier order however, the delivery time for the Battlecruisers and Fortresses is higher than normally, approximately twenty-eight months. The small-craft however can be delivered within twelve months.

-Protectorate International Exports Division

If you are still in need, feel free to visit the various branches of the Klonor Ship Store. Whether you require ships, technology, or services, I'm sure you'll be satisfied beyond your wildest expectations.

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/134012/0.jpg (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346008)
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/kwsig.jpg (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288603)
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/ksig8.jpg (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=292319)
http://hometown.aol.com/jbk405/images/ksig4.jpeg (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=353996)

Your new order is confirmed and forwarded to Hephaestus shipyards for the appropriate production planning. Due to the nature of your earlier order however, the delivery time for the Battlecruisers and Fortresses is higher than normally, approximately twenty-eight months. The small-craft however can be delivered within twelve months.

-Protectorate International Exports Division


So how much exactly do I owe for the transaction?

So how much exactly do I owe for the transaction?

$6,505,840,000,000 + $1,063,500,000,000

= $7,569,340,000,000

There are plenty of storefronts that sell space stuff on the international incidents forum. look there!

I will wire the $7,569,340,000,000 Universal Standard Dollars, plus an additional $30,660,000,000 billion USD bonus to round it off to $7.6 trillion once the construction of all the vessels on my list have been confirmed.

Heads up Clairmont...

the Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation just barely wired the 7.6 trillion for the payment of the construction and transportation of the Californian Space Defense Force.

Sandra M. Devnostræva,
President of the Californian Sovereign Democratic-Socialist Federation.

The payment for the contract has been received and accepted. You will be kept firmly updated with the progress regarding the buildup of your Space Defence Force.

-Protectorate International Exports Division

How goes the progress on the Californian Space Defense Fleet?