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This is formal notice from the Xanthalian Ministry of Justice that abortion of unborn children will no longer be permitted under Xanthalian law effective midnight of January first next year. This decision is the end result of several days of debate among the court's highest officers, and has been made with full and due consideration to the implications across both social, economic, and moral platforms. For more information or to place an official comment, contact the Ministry of Justice information office.

Bump, just in case anyone else wants to see this.

What is the definition of "unborn child?"

Also, would this ban embryonic stem cell research/use?

So, going by what you've said as a total ban, if the birth of the child leads to serious repurcussions healthwise for the carrying mother, or there is a certainity of considerable retardation and or conditions leading to a poor or shortened span of life, this is considered "tough luck"?

Lunatic Retard Robots: An unborn child is a general term, not a legal definition. Our research of most known species' genetic structure is complete, but this measure will not stop such research in the future. Fetuses will not be allowed to be aborted to obtain the cells, but for most purposes replicated stem cells are just as good.

Kaenei: If the child is a danger to the mother it will be held in an artificial maturation chamber until it is ready to be "born". If the child is defective it will be genetically modified to correct the problem before it has developed significantly.

OOC: This ban is mostly because abortion is no longer a necessary procedure in the future I have created for Xanthal. Since all people are provided for by the government money for raising a child isn't an issue, and medical complications can be solved technologically.

Though we are disappointed that Xanthal has taken this stance, if they are prepared to assist the mothers and their children, then it isn't an issue with us.

-Foreign Affairs-

Will the abortion of children that are not unborn still be legal?

I have no problem with a foreign government banning abortion as long as they'd be able to take care of the mothers/children and/or have a government-funded adoption program for the unwanted children.

New Genoa: We are unhappy that our action has disappointed your nation. If there is anything we can do to help you better understand why we reached our decision please let us know.

The Resi Corporation: That never was legal. This new legal action will be placing abortions on the same level as those offenses, defined as either murder or manslaughter depending on the events leading to the action as well as the method of preforming the action itself. Only a few very minor editations to the current law for such crimes will be required to compensate for this, as the basic principles are already in place.

The Resi Corporation: That never was legal. This new legal action will be placing abortions on the same level as those offenses, defined as either murder or manslaughter depending on the events leading to the action as well as the method of preforming the action itself. Only a few very minor editations to the current law for such crimes will be required to compensate for this, as the basic principles are already in place.What about cases in which the mother's life is at jeopardy?

Fact For Resi: Less than 10% of all abortions are like that.

Fact For Resi: Less than 10% of all abortions are like that.((OOC: Fact for Naka: The child my mom would've had before me was like that.))

Fact for Resi: That's Nanaka. Btw, I don't see any problem in that scenario. Not sure about Xanthal's oppinion.

Fact for Resi: That's Nanaka. Btw, I don't see any problem in that scenario.((OOC: I know, but I just chose to take your abreviation out of the middle of your name, because it's shorter.))
Is it THAT obvious that I'm covering my ass? Damn.

We salute our Xanthalian friends and allies for their choose, abortion is murder and even if the mother life is in danger, all efferts should be made to save the childs life. Children are the future

Father Marius, Head of St. Mark hospital.

OOC:Note most Teritoran Doctors and sciencists are priests, nuns, monks and so on in the catholic church

Nanakaland: Our adoption programs are rudimentary, since generally less than twenty children a year are refused by the parent(s). Those that cannot live with their biological parents are placed with foster families, either in our out of Xanthal proper.

The Resi Corporation: I quote our earlier response to that question from Kaenei: "If the child is a danger to the mother it will be held in an artificial maturation chamber until it is ready to be 'born'. If the child is defective it will be genetically modified to correct the problem before it has developed significantly."

Teritora: We are glad that you approve. We wish to stress however that this action would not have been taken if it were not for the social and economic policies that we have in place and our advanced medical technology. In a world where a mother in danger cannot be saved by anything but abortion and/or parents with an unwanted child are in an unacceptably poor social or economic position to care for it, legalized abortion is necessary to ensure the well-being of the people. For a modern society though, where with a little extra effort those problems can be solved without taking the life of either parent or child, to continue a policy of legalized abortion would be nothing short of barbaric.

The Resi Corporation: I quote our earlier response to that question from Kaenei: "If the child is a danger to the mother it will be held in an artificial maturation chamber until it is ready to be 'born'. If the child is defective it will be genetically modified to correct the problem before it has developed significantly."But wouldn't these chambers reduce the mother's time to bond with the baby? One of the main reasons many parents love their bundle o' joy that wakes them up at 2 AM is that they spent 3/4 of a year watching it grow and feeling it kick. It makes the child like a Christmas present that's been out all year. With thes Maturation Chambers, bonding time is severly reduced.

Abortion is legalized murder.

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You say its not!?

((OOC: It's not a baby, it's what could become a baby. It's brain isn't even developed enough for concous thought.))

We applaud you

EVERYONE: If you turn this into an OOC moral battleground I'll leave the topic to the dogs.

The Resi Corporation: We are not of the opinion that an unborn child bonds much at all with its parent. While there is doubtless a psychological impact on both parties, a significant connection between babies matured in this way and future problems has yet to be drawn. Either way, the alternatives of letting the mother and/or the child die are by far the less preferable.