NationStates Jolt Archive

We can't stand by as Christianity spreads through the countries of the world. We must put a stop to demonstrations and God spreading countries.

Join me knowledgable people, because science is the key to afterlife.

Is Aethiesm the same as atheism? And if it is, I thought one of its key points was that there is no afterlife.

OOC:Err...
IC:
We believe that every sentient being has a right to practice his or her religion without molestation, as long as it does not harm others.

Have you ever wondered what would happen if we (Atheists) were wrong. Probably something bad.

Until then, live and let live, unless they ridicule you for your beliefs.

Leave 'em (Christians) alone.

While the Republic of Rykia respects the importance of science for bettering the lives of every citizen of every nation, so long as science is used properly, each citizen has a spiritual need that must be met. Unfortunately despite millenia of combat and warfare and conflicts and schisms no single unifying truly correct faith has come to light, despite claims of any single religious organization. However, just because the ultimate truth has not been discovered, we cannot preclude the rights of all people to choose how they will answer their personal beliefs, so long as they fall within the legitimate confines of the law. So to actively discriminate against a certain religion that traditionally ensures the proper recognition of the state, "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's." Thus realizing the importance of a state and a separate religion, both with separate interests and obligations.

Additionally, while Rykia embraces secular policies, we also realize the truth of Pascal's wager: "If God does not exist, one will lose nothing by believing in him, while if he does exist, one will lose everything by not believing." -- Pensees

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In response to vaunted Pascal's Wager and the Theist belief

I would find it remarkably hypocritical that a religous person who is morally injust but faithful to a religion would secure a place in the afterlife over an atheist who is also humanitarian. To say that the requisites for securing paradise are to believe what we are told (or else) or else be damned for being logical smack of absurdity. Such a God I wouldnt wish to see anyways, if one did exist. The evidence does not exist, religious people are not shown to be any more enlightened or morally advanced than secular people, and so the system is shown as a sham.

Atheism is confronting the the most likely and simple explanation, and building from there, reevaluating as we go along. So it is with science.

Religion calls for certain beliefs that cannot be questioned, and then tries to find answers except in those areas that are taboo. Which is more absurd? Then consider how people love to use science, then RETREAT FROM THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD! A theory can be proven wrong, a test must be repeatable, and so on.

Factor in the injustices, descrimination, and sufferings commited in the name of religion and you will see why humanist atheists and freethinkers of all kinds find this to be pure tripe.

If you beleive in a religion out of fear of punishment or hope of reward, what kind of moral system is THAT?


A bit too strong Crimsdale, but otherwise fine. I dont see why any religious man would object to this.

Religions certainly arent afraid of "spreading the faith" to other people all the time in movies, TV, radio, books, pamphlets, condemnations, and peer pressure.

(Yes, spelling incorrections abound, but its 3 am and Im too tired to go back and change them)

*Atheists/ism Unite*

ooc: I disagree with Pascal's wager myself on similar philosophical grounds, however, merely in context I doubt any sort of offical tagline would go into such detail. In addition to your argument, belief requires evidence and faith requires lack of evidence... simplistic, but overall effective definition I believe... and so to believe in God requires a proof of God... there is no scientific slap it on the table in formaldahyde here is god proof of his or her or it's existence. Thus, Pascal's mere theories are incorrect from a semantic point of view... but... at 3am with a paper due tomorrow, I too do not feel like elaborating my criticisms since you have done a fairly good job of explaining them for me... I just wish to point out that here is a difference between OOC views and IC nation views... besides... conflict is good... it leads to dynamic interactions... far better than static interactions in my opinion...

and I too am more than likely to have numerous butcherings of the English language, but my mind is fried and I am exhausted.

President Calis, another atheist laughs at such an annoucncement.

"Heh! Do you know how many christian nations are out there? Not to mention those that would appose us for the stupidity of declaring such a crusade? Leave 'em be, unless they start spreading into your nation. Then execute them!"

ooc: I disagree with Pascal's wager myself on similar philosophical grounds, however, merely in context I doubt any sort of offical tagline would go into such detail. In addition to your argument, belief requires evidence and faith requires lack of evidence... simplistic, but overall effective definition I believe... and so to believe in God requires a proof of God... there is no scientific slap it on the table in formaldahyde here is god proof of his or her or it's existence. Thus, Pascal's mere theories are incorrect from a semantic point of view... but... at 3am with a paper due tomorrow, I too do not feel like elaborating my criticisms since you have done a fairly good job of explaining them for me... I just wish to point out that here is a difference between OOC views and IC nation views... besides... conflict is good... it leads to dynamic interactions... far better than static interactions in my opinion...

and I too am more than likely to have numerous butcherings of the English language, but my mind is fried and I am exhausted.

I do not fault you at all. Crownguard is very militant about being secular humanist. I am less so in real life, but like all humans, prone to anger at the injustice some religions perpetrate.