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World Cup Reference Book

Snub Nose 38
21-04-2004, 19:24
Most recent edit: Revise list of Current WCC Members, Past WCC Members, Past Presidents.

List of Current World Cup Committee Members

Current WCC Memebers Who are NOT ex-nations

Ariddia, Total n Utter Insanity, Brazillico, Tanah Burung, Spaam, Kingsford, Audioslavia, Bedistan, Europa Brittania, One Red Dot, Kaze Progressa, Rejistania, Cockbill Street, Eauz, The Eagles Nest, Vilita, Giant Zucchini, The Belmore Family, Turori, Starblayida, Druida

Past World Cup Committee Members, who ARE ex-nations
Alasdair I Frosticus, Ravenspire, Warnocks Wizards, Lemmitania, Oglethorpia

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President: Kaze Progressa - on sabatitcal
Acting President: Total n Utter Insanity (Co - Vice President)
Vice President: Rejistania

Past Presidents
Total n Utter Insanity
Snub Nose 38

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WCC Sanctioned Tournaments:
1. The World Cup
2. The Cup of Harmony
3. The Baptism of Fire Cup
4. The Eagles Cup

KPB Ranking system is the official WCC ranking system. Results of WC, CoH and BoF will be included.

As to timeline/schedule - Something like:

WC Qualifiers run / sign-ups & host bids for next WC
WC Qualifiers End
CoH host selected / BoF host selected
Cup proper runs / concurrently, CoH runs / BoF runs
about 1/2 way through Cup WCC announces host(s) for next WC
Cup Ends / CoH ends / BoF ends

WC Qualifiers run / sign-ups & host bids for next WC
WC Qualifiers End
CoH host selected / BoF host selected
Cup proper runs / concurrently, CoH runs / BoF runs
about 1/2 way through Cup WCC announces host(s) for next WC
Cup Ends / CoH ends / BoF ends
etc

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RULES 1 thru 6 - "RP"

RULE 1: The result/score of a match as reported by the host(s) is official, and may not be changed in role play.

RULE 2: If your opponent reports a match first, your RP should be consistent with what has already been reported. However, if your opponents RP contains an error (such as assigning a goal to a player who is no longer on your team) you may, IC, correct the error.

RULE 3: No insulting or rude behavoir toward another player in World Cup threads. You CAN disagree - just do it civily. This does not apply to in character (IC) role play. Take any real life, out of character (OOC) conflict to another thread or forum.

Roberts Rule of Order Committee is empowered to gently enforce Rule 3.

RULE 4: Anything that does not violate an established WCC RP rule is allowed. If getting real close to god moding is being used in support of humor it is allowed. Example - creation of ridiculous technology, like that created by Snub Nose 38 to resurect football players from the dead, or that used by Tanah Burung to create a race of sentient evisceratomatoes.

RULE 5: Humor is encouraged. Wild imagination is encouraged. Even putting in something about the football matches is encouraged.

RULE 6: In both RP of matches, and in the running of the matches by the host/co-hosts, FIFA "Rules of the Game" of football will be followed unless a RL situation makes it impossible.

RULES 10 thru 18 - Mechanics

RULE 10: The KPB Ranking system is the official ranking system of the WCC. Kaze Progressa will share the mechanics of the KPB system with the other members of the History & Statistics Committee. At the end of each World Cup the KPB Ranks will be published - as computed. Sides will be listed in order from top rank to bottom, and numbered (so simple guys like SN38 can figure out just where we stand).

RULE 11: There will be a Role Playing (RP) Bonus. Exactly how the RP Bonus will be done for each World Cup will be explained by the host(s) in their bid. If the host proposes to use a method that has already been used, simply stating who used it for which WC will suffice. When the WCC selects the host(s) they are also selecting that method of RP Bonus. The RP Bonus MUST be small, slightly bigger for "Newbs" who RP, and neither based on quality (which is subjective) or quantity (which leads to endless and boring rps put there only for the bonus). SIMPLE is key - remember, it is realy there only to encourage us all to RP, not to improve our chances.

RULE 12: The exact method of generating results will be explained by the host(s) in their bid. If the host proposes to use a method that has already been used, simply stating who used it for which WC will suffice. When the WCC selects the host(s) they are also selecting that method of generating results.

RULE 12 B: Minor tweaks are allowed if the formula is too random/not random enough, etc. The Formula should be tested a few times before Matchday 1 is generated, preferable with the results of the sims posted for analyzation by the statwanking masses.

RULE 13: Dice will not be used as score generators for any WCC World Cup or WCC sanctioned events.

RULE 14: Scores for the host nation cannot be generated by the “host nation”. A second party (the other co-host or a veteran player who has hosted before) must intervene, and by using the same system as the host, generate all scores for the host.

RULE 15: No matches may be forfeit by decision of hosts/co-hosts. No matches may be forfeit by decision of the opponent. The only valid forfeit in any WCC sanctioned tournament will be by In Character decision of the side/team/nation that forfeits. Simply, you may not forfeit any side/team except your own.

RULE 16: Any “Home Team Advantage” that is proposed for a WCC sanctioned tournament must be explained in advance as part of the results generating system. When the WCC selects a host, they authorize the results generating system the host describes in the hosting bid. EXACTLY that system – no other system, or adjustment, may be used.

RULE 17: Where teams are level on points, the criteria for tie-breaking is goal difference, then goals for, then the head to head results, then the number of wins, then RP bonus. If teams are still level, another match, with extra-time and a penalty shootout, will take place between them (or in the finals, a penalty shoot-out) to decide qualification.

RULE 18: A 48 day schedule (24 days for qualification rounds, followed by 24 days for the actual tournament) has been established as the norm for each World Cup. It is being used for the first time for World Cup 16.

RULE 21 - Ex-Nations

RULE 21, v2.0 Ex-nations that cease to exist before the Cup begins will be replaced by real participants (those who signed up in excess of the number who will be participating and are on the "waiting list", if we have one). Should the nation cease to exist after matchday 1 of qualification, it continues playing matches and the matches do count the normal amount of points, but the team is barred from qualifying despite of its position in the group. Hosts are free to incorporate that in the tables by deducting all points. The result of matches, which took place before the nation ceased stand. If a nation pulls out when the cup already started, it is removed from the group, its results are expunged and it will not play any further matches in that cup. If a nation ceases in the finals, it is expunged as soon as the hosts notice.
v1.0 "in hiding"
RULE 21, v1.0 Ex-nations will be replaced by real participants (those who signed up in excess of the number who will be participating and are on the "waiting list", if we have one). If an ex-nation cannot be replaced, it will be assigned to a qualifying group and play - but regardless of the final outcome will not qualify - the next side down the list in that group will replace it as a qualifier. In the extremely unlikely event that ALL the other nations in the group are ex-nations, then a competition between the "next" side in each other group will be run, the winner qualifying. The Communications Committeewill notify the hosts of any "ex-nations" they find.

RULES 31 Thru 33 - Participation in WCC World Cups

RULE 31: Participants for WCC World Cups will be on a "first come, first served" basis. A sign up thread for each upcoming World Cup will be started by the Facilitation Committee when Qualifications for the then current World Cup are about halfway over. The first nations to sign up, up to the amount of participants per World Cup, will participate. Those who sign up in excess of the available spaces for participants will be a "waiting list".

RULE 32: One puppet per "main" nation is allowed - no more. When signing up a puppet, the "main" nation must sign up AS the puppet, and identify who they are a puppet of - this is on the honor system. If there are more nations signed up than there are available spaces for participants, the last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the first nation on the "waiting list", then the next to last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the next nation on "waiting list". This process continues until either all the nations on the "waiting list" are moved to the participants list, or all the puppets who signed up are gone.

RULE 33: No WCC member can vote for their own hosting bid.

RULES 41 & 42 - Membership of the WCC

RULE 41: To become a member you must host a World Cup.

RULE 42: To continue membership of the WCC you must be active and involved in the World Cup. Inactive members will lose their membership.

RULES 51 Thru 53 - WCC Voting

RULE 51: There will be a Vote Collector and Backup Vote Collector, (Currently Ariddia and Antaeus Rising (TnUI)) who will collect the votes for any WCC votes on rules or hosting bids.

RULE 52: All votes will have a time limit in which the WCC Members most vote or they will auto abstain. Urgent votes: 24 hours, Normal Votes: 48 hours, WC Host Vote: 1 week.

RULE 53: Any WCC Member who misses 2 votes in a row is declared inactive, unless that member informed the VC that they would be gone.

RULE 61 - Cup of Harmony

RULE 61: Minimum Requirements for the Cup of Harmony are as follows: You must have RPed during the World Cup. You must have failed to qualify for the Finals. The minimum requirements for inclusion in the CoH may be waived if the CoH does not have a viable number of teams to begin the competition. The World Cup Hosts will provide a list of nations who RPed and didn't qualify.

RULE 71 - Censure for Provocative Behavior

RULE 71: If a country or countries continue to provoke or participate in OOC arguments that are personal in nature after being warned by the WCC President and/or Vice President to stop, the President may choose to impose a 3 point penalty on said team(s). This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

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If you have a complaint (a real complaint - don't waste their time, please) about someone violating rules, please take it to the Rules Committee for a...what else?...ruling.


WCC Standing Committees, Their Functions, Their Membership

We still need volunteers - should have at least 4 members for each committee so it does not become too much like work.

1. Communications Committee- tasked to notify ALL participants by TG of the start of each new World Cup. Since we are going to select hosts a little earlier, they can notify the Communications Committee of the LINKS to each thread for the new World Cup (RP, Rosters, Scores, "other"). The Communications Committee will provide the links when they notify the participants. (Rejis & CS - all good ideas are worth emulating (stealing?)). Included will be the link to the "Links" thread. The CC will also notify the hosts of any "ex-nations" they find. Liverpool England (Chair), NEWI Cefn Druids, Rejistania, Fmjphoenix

2. Facilitation Committee - tasked to keep a thread of links to all active WCC threads, and at least the most current past ones - more are encouraged but not required. Should include CoH, BoF, and any other WCC "sanctioned" tournaments (sanction will be by majority vote of the WCC). All WC participants will be encouraged to TAG this thread. This committee will be at liberty to expand to include other sporting events if they choose, but must at a minimum maintain the WCC links. RP, Scores, Rosters, Sign-Up for the next WC, "other" threads created by hosts for the WC, etc. Will start, and maintain, the sign-up thread for all World Cups, which will start when the then current WC ends, and not before. Oglethropia (Chair), Halfassedstates, The Eagles Nest

3. History and Statistics Committee - tasked to keep track of WCC history and statistics (duh!) Will request WCC threads be archived when they are two-cups-old (current, past, two-cups-old). Will also keep a living thread of WCC statistics - As of the END of qualifying of each cup, and the END of each cup - Hosts, First - Second - Third, List by Rank at the end of Qualifying, Last Table of qualifying rounds, results of Cup Proper matches - and "Other Totally Useless Information" at the committees discretion. WC members may request anything they of a statistical/historical nature be added to this committees thread - the committee itself will decide whether it should or should not be included. The Committee will also maintain the website and update it regularly. The committee will post the latest results to the website, as well as keeping basic records of each WC (hosts, 1st, 2nd, 3rd) and will archive matchday results, tables, rosters, and RPs. Kaze Progressa (Chair), Bedistan, The Belmore Family

4. Rules Committee - tasked to keep track of what the rules ARE once adopted. To ensure they are posted at the beginning of the Sign-up thread and the RP thread of each WC (the rules MUST few, and each must be brief.) Brazillico (Chair), Spaam, The Weegies

5. Roberts Rules of Order Committee - tasked to maintain a list of all procedures adopted by the WCC, and ensure THESE are posted (few/brief) at the beginning of each WC RP thread. Also to remind, as from time to time may be necessary, gently and with courtesy folks that this is a game, and is for fun, and we all have to respect each other and each others opinions. We don't have to agree, just treat each other well. Tanah Burung (Chair), Lemitania, Kerla

6. Host Selection Committee This committee must have between 3 and 5 members. It will select, by majority vote of committee members, co-hosts for the Cup of Harmony, and the Baptism of Fire Cup. In order to be considered as host for these tournaments, the bid must include the method by which results will be generated. (See rule 12). If there is only one bid, the committee will either select that bid or recommend to the President that the tournament be cancelled. The committee will ensure that at least one of the co-hosts selected is a veteran player, or that a veteran player accepts responsibility to mentor the co-hosts. All WCC tournaments will have 2 co-hosts. If the ONLY bid to host a tournament is an individual bid, this committee will decide whether the player is sufficiently experienced to be selected as host without a co-host or mentor, and then either select that host, select that host and appoint a mentor, or recommend to the President that the tournament be cancelled. Chair - Bedistan. Members - Spaam, Brazillico, Liverpool England, Rejistania, Cockbill Street

President - There has been a suggestion that the Presidency of the WCC rotate. (this may just be a subtle hint for me to "...and rotate"...). I think it would be a good idea to change who the President is every so often, but by vote of the WCC - not rotation. The WCC should also set the "term" of the President.
Snub Nose 38
24-04-2004, 14:41
...64 views, no replies...

World Cup participants - newbies, veterans, whatever - this thread expects to be tagged.

(absolute meaningless tripe)
The Belmore Family
24-04-2004, 15:15
...64 views, no replies...

World Cup participants - newbies, veterans, whatever - this thread expects to be tagged.

(absolute meaningless tripe)

TAG! You're it!
Rejistania
24-04-2004, 15:26
xe'takheta. Il'la'vana jilih.
(*tag*)
Halfassedstates
24-04-2004, 16:22
Heres a handy link for ya all (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3085653) :wink:
Kingsford
25-04-2004, 02:27
tag
Giant Zucchini
26-04-2004, 02:48
tag
Cockbill Street
26-04-2004, 11:37
C'okh'bill Stezh'gah K'druz'ba Gruzh'nakh officers would like to be informed about the state of this thread.
Bedistan
26-04-2004, 22:09
Merto la forpico.

(Or in English: I mark (tag) this thread.)
Bedistan
26-04-2004, 22:10
Li restie tes teses.
Bedistan
26-04-2004, 22:11
Li restie tred teses.
Lovebug
27-04-2004, 15:29
Ho'ailona (The Hawaiian Word For TAG)
01-05-2004, 21:12
Here's a rule that should be added under the RP section. I'll let the rules committee work out the exact wording.

[code:1:94afe89cc6]That no team can sit their opponent's captain and/or leading scorer without their consent. Consent is to be obtained either through the RP thread or through a TG followed by both teams posting in the RP thread to state that an agreement has been reached so that one (or both) team's (teams') captain(s) and/or leading scorer(s) will be sitting for (at least part of) the match.[/code:1:94afe89cc6]

I feel that this rule should be added to keep one team from taking advantage of being able to get to the scores and RP thread first, because some people can't sit in front of their computer all day. I also feel that each team has the right to determine which of their players sit out a particular match.

I am the most recent example of this problem, as Vilita tried to sit my team captain and leading scorer for the opening match of qualifying for WC XIV. Even if they had asked me for the permission to do so I would have refused, because the Vilita matches are too important to my team's chances to qualify to have any of my starters sit out.
Vilita
01-05-2004, 21:43
I'm fine to take the slag for sitting the captain, I didnt realize the player was captain until after I wrote the thing, so I went back and added the bit about them being captain and how they started on the bench, But I've looked back at the roster and can't find where it specify's who the leading scorer would be? (Assuming you mean most prolific or something, as it's just the first game of the event) - So in addition to that clause, if you want to have that rule implemented, you must specify on your roster that those players are in fact those players :)
Brazillico
02-05-2004, 00:10
[code:1:b0d7b3d457]That no team can sit their opponent's captain and/or leading scorer without their consent. Consent is to be obtained either through the RP thread or through a TG followed by both teams posting in the RP thread to state that an agreement has been reached so that one (or both) team's (teams') captain(s) and/or leading scorer(s) will be sitting for (at least part of) the match.[/code:1:b0d7b3d457]

I'd just like to start by saying that's an absolutely terrible rule. Seriously, the entire base of the "You post it first, so it sticks rule" gets called into question with this. The best way to deal with this is relying on the honor system. Sure, we've all seen a few people take liberties with other nations, but they tend to get a bad rap and usually have it done to themselves in return. Basically, good RPing is based on mutual respect.

Also, I haven't checked the roster page, but do you have a clearly indicated starting line-up? If you do, I can see a base to perhaps cry foul, but if not, everybody's fair game in my books.

Yeah, and what was wrong with that RP? Your captain came in off the bench, had a huge impact on the game and scored the game winning goal? If you ask me, Vilita made your Captain look very good.

As for communicating with others to OK an RP, that's about impossible. I remember back in the old days, we used to plan out matches and I have to say I miss it, but with the nature of the beast (One match per day, non-TGed results), planning out RPs is now mostly reserved only for the knockout stages.

Both people involved in this (Vilita, Praying2God) are two of the better new RPers and wish you guys the best of luck in trying to grow into "established nations". I sincerely hope the next time you guys face off, it'll be at the World Cup proper (bar the return leg of qualification ;)).

Also -- before being called a hypocrite about the whole liberties thing at the top. I do occasionally take liberties with some nations, but I try to reserve them to non-RPing n00bs(Holy India, The Confederate). I have my fun and they dont see it, so they don't care. No blood no foul.
Vilita
02-05-2004, 04:09
Thanks for the Response Brazillico, Maybe one day we will meet each other on the World Stage. Until then, best of luck
Melmond
02-05-2004, 04:42
I must agree with Brazillico on this issue. Ironically the only time I had a problem with that is Brazillico vs. Melmond in the Cup of Harmony. That was just a bad coincidence and there is no hard feelings out of character but plenty of hard feelings in character.

In my RPs, at time I will give red cards to opposing players, name players on teams which have not posted a roster (see Diego Macarena and Enrico Gazpacho for EL CID THE HERO), or even injure other players (the Theys Eluay situation was handled beautifully by Tanah Burung) I never overblow or overuse those devices however and I use them as often as they happen in real life. I do it to my own side as well. I had one of my player die for pete's sake! I invited other RPs who beat me to my game to throw curveballs at me just like I do to others. I see nothing wrong with Vilita's post. Perhaps stating undocumented statistics about other RPing sides should be out, but the speed race is just part of the game in my opinion. Either way...let's have fun!
Snub Nose 38
09-05-2004, 14:11
blantant,
unexcused
manipulative
post
Total n Utter Insanity
09-05-2004, 14:25
good RPing is based on mutual respect

That explains why my RPs are crap.
Kaze Progressa
22-05-2004, 13:30
LOL TnUI :D

btw Snubby: you could edit to reflect my election as VP.
Snub Nose 38
23-05-2004, 12:32
LOL TnUI :D

btw Snubby: you could edit to reflect my election as VP.Good point - done.
Snub Nose 38
30-07-2004, 17:34
some things have been updated - see 1st post of this thread.

Notably:
1 - Three rules have been added
2 - Two WCC members have been added
3 - President Kaze Progressa is on sabatical, Snub Nose 38 is Interim Pres
4 - Bedistan is spelled right
Antaeus Rising
03-08-2004, 13:25
List of Current World Cup Committee Members, who are NOT ex-nations, in the order in which they hosted:

Ariddia, Total n Utter Insanity, Brazillico, Tanah Burung, Spaam, Kingsford, Lemmitania, Audioslavia, Bedistan, Oglethorpia, Europa Brittania, Ravenspire, Giant Zucchini, One Red Dot, Kaze Progressa, Rejistania, Cockbill Street, Eauz, The Eagles Nest

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President: Kaze Progressa - AWOL
Acting President: Total n Utter Insanity
Vice President: Rejistania

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WCC Sanctioned Tournaments:
1. The World Cup
2. The Cup of Harmony
3. The Baptism of Fire Cup
4. The Under 21 World Cup

KPB Ranking System is the official WCC ranking system. Results of WC, CoH, BoF and U21 will be included.

Schedule [needs re-writing with Spaam 48 day thingy]

WC Qualifiers run / sign-ups & host bids for next WC
WC Qualifiers End
CoH host selected / BoF host selected
Cup proper runs / concurrently, CoH runs / BoF runs
about 1/2 way through Cup WCC announces host(s) for next WC
Cup Ends / CoH ends / BoF ends

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RULES 1 thru 6 - "RP"

RULE 1: The result/score of a match as reported by the host(s) is official, and may not be changed in role play.

RULE 2: If your opponent reports a match first, your RP should be consistent with what has already been reported. However, if your opponents RP contains an error (such as assigning a goal to a player who is no longer on your team) you may, IC, correct the error.

RULE 3: No insulting or rude behavoir toward another player in World Cup threads. You CAN disagree - just do it civily. This does not apply to in character (IC) role play. Take any real life, out of character (OOC) conflict to another thread or forum.

Roberts Rule of Order Committee is empowered to gently enforce Rule 3.

RULE 4: Anything that does not violate an established WCC RP rule is allowed. If getting real close to god moding is being used in support of humor it is allowed. Example - creation of ridiculous technology, like that created by Snub Nose 38 to resurect football players from the dead, or that used by Tanah Burung to create a race of sentient evisceratomatoes.

RULE 5: Humor is encouraged. Wild imagination is encouraged. Even putting in something about the football matches is encouraged.

RULE 6: In both RP of matches, and in the running of the matches by the host/co-hosts, FIFA "Rules of the Game" of football will be followed unless a RL situation makes it impossible.

RULES 10 thru 16 - Mechanics

RULE 10: The KPB Ranking system is the official ranking system of the WCC. Kaze Progressa will share the mechanics of the KPB system with the other members of the History & Statistics Committee. At the end of each World Cup the KPB Ranks will be published - as computed. Sides will be listed in order from top rank to bottom, and numbered (so simple guys like SN38 can figure out just where we stand).

***RULE 11: There will be a Role Playing (RP) Bonus. Exactly how the RP Bonus will be done for each World Cup will be explained by the host(s) in their bid. If the host proposes to use a method that has already been used, simply stating who used it for which WC will suffice. When the WCC selects the host(s) they are also selecting that method of RP Bonus. The RP Bonus MUST be small, slightly bigger for "Newbs" who RP, and neither based on quality (which is subjective) or quantity (which leads to endless and boring rps put there only for the bonus). SIMPLE is key - remember, it is realy there only to encourage us all to RP, not to improve our chances.

RULE 12: The exact method of generating results will be explained by the host(s) in their bid. If the host proposes to use a method that has already been used, simply stating who used it for which WC will suffice. When the WCC selects the host(s) they are also selecting that method of generating results.

RULE 13: Dice will not be used as score generators for any WCC World Cup or WCC sanctioned events.

RULE 14: Scores for the host nation cannot be generated by the “host nation”. A second party (the other co-host or a veteran player who has hosted before) must intervene, and by using the same system as the host, generate all scores for the host.

RULE 15: No matches may be forfeit by decision of hosts/co-hosts. No matches may be forfeit by decision of the opponent. The only valid forfeit in any WCC sanctioned tournament will be by In Character decision of the side/team/nation that forfeits. Simply, you may not forfeit any side/team except your own.

***RULE 16: Any “Home Team Advantage” that is proposed for a WCC sanctioned tournament must be explained in advance as part of the results generating system. When the WCC selects a host, they authorize the results generating system the host describes in the hosting bid. EXACTLY that system – no other system, or adjustment, may be used.

RULE 17: Where teams are level on points, the criteria for tie-breaking is goal difference, then goals for, then the head to head results, then the number of wins, then RP bonus. If teams are still level, another match, with extra-time and a penalty shootout, will take place between them (or in the finals, a penalty shoot-out) to decide qualification.

RULE 18: A 48 day schedule (24 days for qualification rounds, followed by 24 days for the actual tournament) has been established as the norm for each World Cup. It is being used for the first time for World Cup 16.

RULE 21 - Ex-Nations

RULE 21 Ex-nations will be replaced by real participants (those who signed up in excess of the number who will be participating and are on the "waiting list", if we have one). If an ex-nation cannot be replaced, it will be assigned to a qualifying group and play - but regardless of the final outcome will not qualify - the next side down the list in that group will replace it as a qualifier. In the extremely unlikely event that ALL the other nations in the group are ex-nations, then a competition between the "next" side in each other group will be run, the winner qualifying. The Communications Committee will notify the hosts of any "ex-nations" they find.

RULES 31 & 32 - Participation in WCC World Cups

***RULE 31: Participants for WCC World Cups will be on a "first come, first served" basis. A sign up thread for each upcoming World Cup will be started by the Facilitation Committee when Qualifications for the then current World Cup are about halfway over. The first nations to sign up, up to the amount of participants per World Cup, will participate. Those who sign up in excess of the available spaces for participants will be a "waiting list".

RULE 32: One puppet per "main" nation is allowed - no more. When signing up a puppet, the "main" nation must sign up AS the puppet, and identify who they are a puppet of - this is on the honor system. If there are more nations signed up than there are available spaces for participants, the last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the first nation on the "waiting list", then the next to last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the next nation on "waiting list". This process continues until either all the nations on the "waiting list" are moved to the participants list, or all the puppets who signed up are gone.

RULE 33: No WCC member can vote for their own hosting bid.

If you have a complaint (a real complaint - don't waste their time, please) about someone violating rules, please take it to the Rules Committee for a...what else?...ruling.





WCC Standing Committees, Their Functions, Their Membership

We still need volunteers - should have at least 4 members for each committee so it does not become too much like work.

1. Communications Committee- tasked to notify ALL participants by TG of the start of each new World Cup. Since we are going to select hosts a little earlier, they can notify the Communications Committee of the LINKS to each thread for the new World Cup (RP, Rosters, Scores, "other"). The Communications Committee will provide the links when they notify the participants. (Rejis & CS - all good ideas are worth emulating (stealing?)). Included will be the link to the "Links" thread. The CC will also notify the hosts of any "ex-nations" they find. Liverpool England (Chair), NEWI Cefn Druids, Rejistania

2. Facilitation Committee - tasked to keep a thread of links to all active WCC threads, and at least the most current past ones - more are encouraged but not required. Should include CoH, BoF, U21, and any other WCC "sanctioned" tournaments (sanction will be by majority vote of the WCC). All WC participants will be encouraged to subscribe to this thread. This committee will be at liberty to expand to include other sporting events if they choose, but must at a minimum maintain the WCC links. RP, Scores, Rosters, Sign-Up for the next WC, "other" threads created by hosts for the WC, etc. Will start, and maintain, the sign-up thread for all World Cups, which will start when the then current WC ends, and not before. Oglethropia (Chair), Halfassedstates, The Eagles Nest

3. History and Statistics Committee - tasked to keep track of WCC history and statistics (duh!) Will request WCC threads be archived when they are two-cups-old (current, past, two-cups-old). Will also keep a living thread of WCC statistics - As of the END of qualifying of each cup, and the END of each cup - Hosts, First - Second - Third, List by Rank at the end of Qualifying, Last Table of qualifying rounds, results of Cup Proper matches - and "Other Totally Useless Information" at the committees discretion. WC members may request anything they of a statistical/historical nature be added to this committees thread - the committee itself will decide whether it should or should not be included. The Committee will also maintain the website and update it regularly. The committee will post the latest results to the website, as well as keeping basic records of each WC (hosts, 1st, 2nd, 3rd) and will archive matchday results, tables, rosters, and RPs. Kaze Progressa (Chair), Bedistan, The Belmore Family

4. Rules Committee - tasked to keep track of what the rules ARE once adopted. To ensure they are posted at the beginning of the Sign-up thread and the RP thread of each WC (the rules MUST few, and each must be brief.) Brazillico (Chair), Spaam, The Weegies

5. Roberts Rules of Order Committee - tasked to maintain a list of all procedures adopted by the WCC, and ensure THESE are posted (few/brief) at the beginning of each WC RP thread. Also to remind, as from time to time may be necessary, gently and with courtesy folks that this is a game, and is for fun, and we all have to respect each other and each others opinions. We don't have to agree, just treat each other well. Tanah Burung (Chair), Lemitania, Kerla

6. Host Selection Committee This committee must have between 3 and 5 members. It will select, by majority vote of committee members, co-hosts for the Cup of Harmony, and the Baptism of Fire Cup. In order to be considered as host for these tournaments, the bid must include the method by which results will be generated. (See rule 12). If there is only one bid, the committee will either select that bid or recommend to the President that the tournament be cancelled. The committee will ensure that at least one of the co-hosts selected is a veteran player, or that a veteran player accepts responsibility to mentor the co-hosts. All WCC tournaments will have 2 co-hosts. If the ONLY bid to host a tournament is an individual bid, this committee will decide whether the player is sufficiently experienced to be selected as host without a co-host or mentor, and then either select that host, select that host and appoint a mentor, or recommend to the President that the tournament be cancelled. Chair - Bedistan. Members - Spaam, Brazillico, Liverpool England, Rejistania, Cockbill Street

***ed Rules are under review.
The Schedule needs updating.
Also I'm thinking up a rule or two.
Total n Utter Insanity
03-08-2004, 13:46
Schedule
Day 1: WC Qualifiers Start / Signup Thread
Day ??: WC Qualifiers End / CoH Host Selected / BoF Host Selected
Day ??: CoH Starts / BoF Starts / U21 Starts
Day 25: WC Finals Start / WC Host Vote Starts
Day 32: WC Host Selected
Day ??: WC Ends / CoH Ends / BoF Ends / U21 Ends
Sarzonia
03-08-2004, 14:39
I don't have a problem with "curveballs" (such as a foul in the box, a red card, etc.) if you post the RP first. What I do have a problem with is someone coming along after I've already posted an RP into which I've put a lot of thought and then write something that doesn't even resemble what I wrote.

Prime examples: HypercapitaliZm calling balls kicked into the stands "goals" after I'd already posted an RP with goal scorers; Jerusuelem posting "Someone" after I'd posted 1) a roster with player names and starting lineups and 2) an RP with the identities of the goalscorers and the minutes in which the players on my team scored their goals.

If I see that someone has a roster, I'll RP actual names of goalscorers. Otherwise, I'll describe who it was and let the other RPer have the liberty of naming his or her player.

For the record, I have detailed rosters with player names, positions, ages, club affiliations, and a brief biography. Starting players are bolded and if I make any lineup changes, they're noted in an RP (such as when I changed goalkeepers in this WC).
Total n Utter Insanity
03-08-2004, 14:45
HypercapitaliZm calling balls kicked into the stands "goals" after I'd already posted an RP with goal scorers; Jerusuelem posting "Someone" after I'd posted 1) a roster with player names and starting lineups and 2) an RP with the identities of the goalscorers and the minutes in which the players on my team scored their goals.

Well...

HypercapitaliZm [CH] media probably wanted to make you look bad by reporting that. Jerusuelem is just lazy. Both might have missed your RP.
Total n Utter Insanity
03-08-2004, 14:47
New Rule Ideas

RULE 4X - Membership of the WCC

RULE 40: To become a member you must host a World Cup.

RULE 41: To continue membership of the WCC you must be active and involved in the World Cup. Inactive members will lose their membership.

RULE 5X - WCC Voting

RULE 50: There will be a Vote Collector and Backup Vote Collector, (Currently Ariddia and Antaeus Rising (TnUI)) who will collect the votes for any WCC votes on rules or hosting bids.

RULE 51: All votes will have a time limit in which the WCC Members most vote or they will auto abstain. Urgent votes: 24 hours, Normal Votes: 48 hours, WC Host Vote: 1 week.

RULE 52: Any WCC Member who misses 2 votes in a row is declared inactive, unless that member informed the VC that they would be gone.

Discuss...
Sarzonia
03-08-2004, 15:23
Well...

HypercapitaliZm [CH] media probably wanted to make you look bad by reporting that. Jerusuelem is just lazy. Both might have missed your RP.

I really don't give a rat's tail what HypercapitaliZm "wants" to do as long as they get the facts right when the RP is already there. They can "claim" bribery all they want as long as they're not ignoring established facts.

And Jeruselem has already been admonished about his laziness with regard to the match report.
Antaeus Rising
03-08-2004, 17:13
Since when did facts have anything to do with RP :D
Snub Nose 38
03-08-2004, 17:40
New Rule Ideas

RULE 4X - Membership of the WCC

RULE 40: To become a member you must host a World Cup.

RULE 41: To continue membership of the WCC you must be active and involved in the World Cup. Inactive members will lose their membership.

RULE 5X - WCC Voting

RULE 50: There will be a Vote Collector and Backup Vote Collector, (Currently Ariddia and Antaeus Rising (TnUI)) who will collect the votes for any WCC votes on rules or hosting bids.

RULE 51: All votes will have a time limit in which the WCC Members most vote or they will auto abstain. Urgent votes: 24 hours, Normal Votes: 48 hours, WC Host Vote: 1 week.

RULE 52: Any WCC Member who misses 2 votes in a row is declared inactive, unless that member informed the VC that they would be gone.

Discuss...

I like 'em
Antaeus Rising
04-08-2004, 14:48
I'll sort this out and put it to a vote in the next few days.
Total n Utter Insanity
06-08-2004, 14:05
So far:

RULE 7: There will be a Role Playing (RP) Bonus. Exactly how the RP Bonus will be done for each World Cup will be explained by the host(s) in their bid. If the host proposes to use a method that has already been used, simply stating who used it for which WC will suffice. When the WCC selects the host(s) they are also selecting that method of RP Bonus.

***RULE 8: The RP Bonus MUST be small, slightly bigger for "Newbs" who RP, and neither based on quality (which is subjective) or quantity (which leads to endless and boring RPs put there only for the bonus). SIMPLE is key - remember, it is really there only to encourage us all to RP, not to improve our chances.

RULE 11: Minor tweaks are allowed if the formula is too random/not random enough, etc. The Formula should be tested a few times before Matchday 1 is generated, preferable with the results of the sims posted for analyzation by the statwanking masses.

RULE 16: Any “Home Team Advantage” that is proposed for a WCC sanctioned tournament must be explained in advance as part of the results generating system. When the WCC selects a host, they authorize the results generating system the host describes in the hosting bid.

RULE 31: Participants for WCC World Cups will be on a "first come, first served" basis. A sign up thread for each upcoming World Cup will be started by an individual, selected by the President, around the same time the current World Cup start. The first nations to sign up, up to the amount of participants per World Cup, will participate. Those who sign up in excess of the available spaces for participants will be a "waiting list".

Rule 8 is a problem...

I might ask for a vote on the RP Bonus. Currently it takes up over 90% of the effort of hosting and seeing it has only a little effect is it worth the effort?
Snub Nose 38
06-08-2004, 16:03
So far:
***RULE 8: The RP Bonus MUST be small, slightly bigger for "Newbs" who RP, and neither based on quality (which is subjective) or quantity (which leads to endless and boring RPs put there only for the bonus). SIMPLE is key - remember, it is really there only to encourage us all to RP, not to improve our chances.

Rule 8 is a problem...

I might ask for a vote on the RP Bonus. Currently it takes up over 90% of the effort of hosting and seeing it has only a little effect is it worth the effort?
No, it's probably not worth the effort. It all began because we wanted to somehow encourage/reward RPing without having too big an effect on the results. It's really not working very well - and if it takes 90% of the effort of hosting to manage a small RP bonus that isn't working very well - then in my opinion it's wasted effort, and we should do away with it.

Rule 11 - what constitutes "tweaking"? What constitutes "a minor amount"? Who determines if results are "too random/not random enough"? And who are these "statwanking masses"?
Antaeus Rising
06-08-2004, 16:18
Rule 11 - what constitutes "tweaking"? What constitutes "a minor amount"? Who determines if results are "too random/not random enough"? And who are these "statwanking masses"?

Well I tweaked the WC3 formula from 15 attacks to 12 attacks, I think that was after the first 2 MDs, because I thought the scores were too high. Also I was tweaking the WC11 formula alot, and didn't test it properly before it got used. lemmy spotted a mistake in it which left the top rank teams immortal, so I tweaked the formula, but waited till halfway thru qualifying so it was more fair. I guess the whole tweaking thing is subjective [ARGHHHHH] There are loads of statwanking masses, me, KP, Beddy, Vil, ORD, etc.
Bedistan
06-08-2004, 21:24
No, it's probably not worth the effort. It all began because we wanted to somehow encourage/reward RPing without having too big an effect on the results. It's really not working very well - and if it takes 90% of the effort of hosting to manage a small RP bonus that isn't working very well - then in my opinion it's wasted effort, and we should do away with it.

I'm in full agreement with Snub on this. Though no RP bonus was in use yet back when I hosted, I can verify that it takes a really long time to read through all the RPs (when I actually have time to do so, which I don't now that school is back in session). If 90% of the effort is producing about 1% of the results, it should probably go.

(Oh, and yes, I confirm that I am part of the statwanking masses and proud of it! :D)
Turori
06-08-2004, 21:36
I'm in full agreement with Snub on this. Though no RP bonus was in use yet back when I hosted, I can verify that it takes a really long time to read through all the RPs (when I actually have time to do so, which I don't now that school is back in session). If 90% of the effort is producing about 1% of the results, it should probably go.

(Oh, and yes, I confirm that I am part of the statwanking masses and proud of it! :D)


Vilita would support maintaining RP bonus if he hosts
Total n Utter Insanity
12-08-2004, 17:36
RULES 6X - Cup of Harmony

RULE 61: Minimum Requirements for the Cup of Harmony are as follows: You must have RPed during the World Cup. You must have failed to qualify for the Finals. The minimum requirements for inclusion in the CoH may be waived if the CoH does not have a viable number of teams to begin the competition. The World Cup Hosts will provide a list of nations who RPed and didn't qualify.
Kaze Progressa
31-08-2004, 09:02
I like 61 and 11, though the latter is hard to interpret.

RP bonus should be up to the host IMHO - some (eg NEWI) feel RP bonus more important than others (eg TBF). That's partly coloured by their own experiences (NEWI coming from the WC11 'lost generation', TBF a veteran who does more statwanking than RPing these days).
Cockbill Street
31-08-2004, 09:39
I like 61 and 11, though the latter is hard to interpret.

RP bonus should be up to the host IMHO - some (eg NEWI) feel RP bonus more important than others (eg TBF). That's partly coloured by their own experiences (NEWI coming from the WC11 'lost generation', TBF a veteran who does more statwanking than RPing these days).

You seen the Cup of Harmony thread lately?
Cockbill Street
04-11-2004, 14:58
the ACTING president of the WCC declares this proposal:

"If a country or countries continue to provoke or participate in OOC arguments that are personal in nature after being warned by the WCC President and/or Vice President to stop, the President may choose to impose a 3 point penalty on said team(s). This may be repeated for each incident during the cup."

as OFFICIAL rule.

(subject to change, but forwarded on behalf of Rejistania)
Antaeus Rising
04-11-2004, 18:33
The current situation on the President, Acting President and/or Vice Presidents seems to be unclear.

The way I see it is KP has either stepped down as President since his return and Rejis is now the President with me the VP. Or KP is the President and Rejis is Acting President until KP "returns more" or KP is president and Rejis and I are VPs.

Of course Rejis seems to think I'm President and Rejis is Acting President, with KP as VP.

Could we get this straightened out, with the real president giving these rules a look over?
Vilita
04-11-2004, 18:40
The current situation on the President, Acting President and/or Vice Presidents seems to be unclear.

The way I see it is KP has either stepped down as President since his return and Rejis is now the President with me the VP. Or KP is the President and Rejis is Acting President until KP "returns more" or KP is president and Rejis and I are VPs.

Of course Rejis seems to think I'm President and Rejis is Acting President, with KP as VP.

Could we get this straightened out, with the real president giving these rules a look over?

Why dont we just put it to another vote, each WCC member MUST Nominate someone other than themselves. The top 2 Nominees Are then voted on, with the winner being Pres, Loser Vice Pres.
Antaeus Rising
04-11-2004, 18:48
Because voting was how we got into this problem.
Vilita
04-11-2004, 18:52
Because voting was how we got into this problem.

I wouldnt call the last thing we had a vote, We pretty much single handedly determined the 5 candidates on IRC ourselves and then the WCC decided amongst them. I think the nominations should be expanded to include users such as *gasp* Liverpool England, The Belmore Family, Starblaydia, Melmond, ... the users that have hosted BoF or CoH as well. That would be 20-30 Nominations for WCC President, then the top 2 are voted on soley by the WCC Members. A much more productive method of choosing I think...
Sarzonia
04-11-2004, 18:54
RULE 61: Minimum Requirements for the Cup of Harmony are as follows: You must have RPed during the World Cup. You must have failed to qualify for the Finals. The minimum requirements for inclusion in the CoH may be waived if the CoH does not have a viable number of teams to begin the competition. The World Cup Hosts will provide a list of nations who RPed and didn't qualify.
If you do away with RP bonuses in the World Cup, where is the incentive for the rank-and-file RPer to post an RP? I might enter into a World Cup with no such bonus and not bother to check the thread if there's no RP bonus. If there is one, then I'm inclined to write RPs like some of the ones I've been posting.
Starblaydia
04-11-2004, 18:56
I think the nominations should be expanded to include users such as *gasp* Liverpool England, The Belmore Family, Starblaydia, Melmond, ...

Eep!
Vilita
04-11-2004, 19:00
If you do away with RP bonuses in the World Cup, where is the incentive for the rank-and-file RPer to post an RP? I might enter into a World Cup with no such bonus and not bother to check the thread if there's no RP bonus. If there is one, then I'm inclined to write RPs like some of the ones I've been posting.

Either you've quoted the wrong post from TnUI or you are misinformed about what he wrote. Please check your post again :)
Sarzonia
04-11-2004, 19:02
Either you've quoted the wrong post from TnUI or you are misinformed about what he wrote. Please check your post again :) I used his post to point out the problem with other people who have advocated doing away with the RP bonus. It wasn't referring to TnUI wanting to do away with an RP bonus.

He just happened to be the convenient victim I chose to quote. :)
Vilita
04-11-2004, 19:05
I used his post to point out the problem with other people who have advocated doing away with the RP bonus. It wasn't referring to TnUI wanting to do away with an RP bonus.

He just happened to be the convenient victim I chose to quote. :)

I like the idea of Making RP bonus have less of an affect during the World Cup
Antaeus Rising
04-11-2004, 19:15
The true spirit of RPs are to have fun not gain a bonus. People, who only post RPs for the bonus, stopping would be a bonus in my opinion.
Starblaydia
04-11-2004, 19:20
The true spirit of RPs are to have fun not gain a bonus. People, who only post RPs for the bonus, stopping would be a bonus in my opinion.

Lessening the effect of RPs would be OK, but removing them all together would make the WC a very boring affair, IMHO.

Log On. Check Results. Bugger Off. Repeat.

Plus it would completely nullify a Baptism of Fire, which i think is quite fun.
Vilita
04-11-2004, 19:39
Lessening the effect of RPs would be OK, but removing them all together would make the WC a very boring affair, IMHO.

Log On. Check Results. Bugger Off. Repeat.

Plus it would completely nullify a Baptism of Fire, which i think is quite fun.

Just to note, this discussion effects the World Cup, not the Baptism of Fire :)
Sarzonia
04-11-2004, 20:02
The true spirit of RPs are to have fun not gain a bonus. People, who only post RPs for the bonus, stopping would be a bonus in my opinion.But unless people have at least SOME incentive to RP, what Starblaydia said is likely going to happen except for a few hardy souls who just have to RP.

I am ADAMANTLY opposed to eliminating the RP bonus.
Oddslavo
19-11-2004, 11:09
Current WCC Memebers Who are NOT ex-nations
in the order in which they hosted

Ariddia, Total n Utter Insanity, Brazillico, Tanah Burung, Lemmitania, Spaam, Kingsford, Audioslavia, Bedistan, Oglethorpia, Europa Brittania, One Red Dot, Kaze Progressa, Rejistania, Cockbill Street, Eauz, The Eagles Nest, Vilita

Past World Cup Committee Members, who ARE ex-nations
Alasdair I Frosticus, Giant Zucchini, Ravenspire, Warnocks Wizards

GZ was revived today.
RULES 41 & 42 - Membership of the WCC

RULE 41: To become a member you must host a World Cup.

RULE 42: To continue membership of the WCC you must be active and involved in the World Cup. Inactive members will lose their membership.

EB is no longer active.
1. Communications Committee- tasked to notify ALL participants by TG of the start of each new World Cup. Since we are going to select hosts a little earlier, they can notify the Communications Committee of the LINKS to each thread for the new World Cup (RP, Rosters, Scores, "other"). The Communications Committee will provide the links when they notify the participants. (Rejis & CS - all good ideas are worth emulating (stealing?)). Included will be the link to the "Links" thread. The CC will also notify the hosts of any "ex-nations" they find. Liverpool England (Chair), NEWI Cefn Druids, Rejistania Please add Fmjphoenix to this list.


EDIT: And for some odd reason I'm logged in under my puppet. LE here.
Snub Nose 38
19-11-2004, 15:52
LE:

1. Added Giant Zucchini back to list of World Cup Committee members
2. Added Fmjphoenix to list of Communications Committee members

Checked on Europa Brittania - most recent gov't activity 3 days ago (today is Friday, the 19th of Nov 2004). I don't think that qualifies as inactive for the purpose of removing EB as a WCC member. Until the WCC says otherwise, I'm working with the idea that only one of three things can remove someone as a member of the World Cup Committee:

1 - They resign
2 - They "cease to exist"
3 - They are removed by majority vote of the WCC

So, EB stays

Also of note: Halfassedstates is back - just checked, and Halfassed is in "Lazarus", with most recent gov't activty 18 days ago
Giant Zucchini
19-11-2004, 16:34
'Tis the season to be resurrected ;)
Liverpool England
20-11-2004, 01:04
Snub Nose 38, please clarify rules on puppets hosting cups. Thank you.
Snub Nose 38
20-11-2004, 01:24
Snub Nose 38, please clarify rules on puppets hosting cups. Thank you.Nothing in the current World Cup rules prohibits a puppet from being a co-host. The only mention of puppets in the rules is in rule 32:

RULE 32: One puppet per "main" nation is allowed - no more. When signing up a puppet, the "main" nation must sign up AS the puppet, and identify who they are a puppet of - this is on the honor system. If there are more nations signed up than there are available spaces for participants, the last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the first nation on the "waiting list", then the next to last puppet to sign up will be replaced by the next nation on "waiting list". This process continues until either all the nations on the "waiting list" are moved to the participants list, or all the puppets who signed up are gone.

Since it isn't prohibited, a puppet nation can bid and, if voted in by the WCC in accordance with our rules, is a valid co-host.

If you want to have discussion, and/or propose a rule against it, that would be fine.

Personnaly, it doesn't bother me as long as the puppet is a regular WC participant - same as any other potential co-host. I do see the possibility of scorinating for "yourself" - for instance if I still had a puppet, and it co-hosted, it should not scorinate for Snub Nose 38. The rules state that a co-host cannot generate it's own results, perhaps that should be expanded to include not generating results for it's own puppet(s), or as in this case, it's own "main" nation.

I can see how it could upset you, LE, as it comes at a time that prevents you from hosting. Try (I know it's hard sometimes) to see the cup as half full - TBF has been trying to host for ages, too.

Question: I should probably know this, but what is the FHWC?
Liverpool England
20-11-2004, 01:28
Only Thing.... This Puppet Is Just A Way To Get Around Our Unwritten Rule Of 3 Cups Between Last Cup Hosted And Next Hosting Bid - Things Like This Make Me Very Sad And Unhappy. Yes I Know I'm (trying to use, damn Jolt) Using All Caps, I Rarely Do, I Got Mad At Hiiraan About Using All Caps, But I'm Really Unhappy And angry.
Starblaydia
20-11-2004, 11:59
Question: I should probably know this, but what is the FHWC?

Fool-Hardy Whingers Cup, iirc.

Or Field Hockey, depending on your point of view.
Snub Nose 38
20-11-2004, 14:37
AT THE RISK OF OFFENDING VILITA, USING BOLD CAPS TO GET EVERYONE'S ATTENTION (joke, vil)

Proposed solution:
1. TBF & Turori host WC19
2. LE & Rejis host WC20 - If and only if their bid received the 2nd highest vote total. If their bid did not, then WC20 host/co-host will be selected in the usual manner.
3. The following new rules be adopted.

RULE: No puppet may host or co-host the World Cup. Puppets may, however, host or co-host Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments. No puppet, including Turori, may hold a seat or have a vote on the World Cup Committee

RULE: Once someone has hosted/co-hosted a World Cup, they may not bid to host/co-host again until two cups have passed. They may bid to host the third cup. This does not apply to Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments.In the interest of reaching a compromise position that all can agree on, the 2nd proposed rule above is modified to be similar to the one proposed by Rejis:

RULE: Once someone has been selected to host/co-host a World Cup, they may not bid to host/co-host again while they cup they are hosting is underway. They may bid to host/co-host again during the next "round of bidding" for hosts/co-hosts that takes place after the Cup they are hosting is completed. This rule does NOT apply to hosting/co-hosting Cup of Harmony or Baptism of Fire tournaments.

to clarify - these are PROPOSED rules...according to the precedent we have set, rules are first proposed, then discussed, and finally adopted (or not) by the President.

who is president? did we resolve that? is it KP, or Rejis, or TnUI?
Snub Nose 38
09-12-2004, 20:13
Post to prevent the possible mysterious disappearance of this The World Cup Reference Book
Krytenia
11-01-2005, 15:21
Post to prevent the possible mysterious disappearance of this The World Cup Reference Book

"Yeah, someone checked it out last month. Name of Margaret I believe"
Praying2God
12-01-2005, 01:35
"Yeah, someone checked it out last month. Name of Margaret I believe"

LOL!!!!!
Snub Nose 38
28-01-2005, 15:37
WORLD CUP HISTORY BEING LOST
This will be my last post - which I'm posting both here, and in the World Cup Discussion Thread. (Here, in the post after this one, I'm including the first post of WC 4 - just because).

Someone needs to request Archiving of the old World Cup threads, or they will be lost. As threads age in NS, they get "culled" (terminated - gone) unless someone requests that they be archived (send a TG to a mod requesting a thread/threads be archived, WITH the URL (s)).
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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=292038
What the Archive is (by [violet])



THESE WORLD CUP THREADS ARE ARCHIVED:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274959
World Cup 4

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=276261
World Cup 6 Qualifying Underway

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278263
World Cup 6 Second through final Rounds MOVED HERE

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278358
World Cup Seven - Errinundera wins championship

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=281353
World Cup 8 (1st: LE, 2nd: Bedistan, 3rd: Haraki, 4th: EB)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=287716
Gilmeecia doesn't have 3 more grams of Zombie Virus for sale

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=287396
World Cup 9 – (The winner is: Europa Brittania!)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=282277
World Cup 9 Won’t Eat Hell Bovines

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=294577
World Cup X: 3rd Placing and Finals

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=294577
World Cup X Pre-Season RP

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=302599
World Cup XI Role Play Thread (Finals: The Final)

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Lost forever: World Cup 1, World Cup 2, World Cup 3, World Cup 5

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Status unknown: World Cups 12 – 14 (I can't find them, and suspect they are also lost forever

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These World Cup Threads are still in existence, and need to be archived before they are lost:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=332790&page=1
The Official World Cup XV RP Thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=331488&page=1
World Cup XV Scores

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342199&page=1
World Cup 16 pre-cup RP thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343804&page=1
The WC16 scores thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342945&page=1
World Cup 16 -- RP Thread

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Snub Nose 38
28-01-2005, 16:04
For any ZNSWC "Historians"...


Brazillico is ecstatic to be able to host this fourth edition of the World Cup and having seen the strengths and flaws from past cups, we will do everything in our power to try to integrate a little something from every cup to make this one the best ever.

Final Game, World Cup 3
Giant Zucchini 2
Crosshill 0

Previous Hosts of the Cup
Ariddia (WCI)
Alasdair I Frosticus (WCII)
Total n Utter Insanity (WCIII)

First of all, I’m gonna do away with the friendlies as seen in WC3 and just go straight to qualifying. The groups for qualifying will be as follows.

Group A
Al Quds
Pablicosta
Dennisov
Gesamtkuntwerk
Proxy
The Imperial Navy
Moyk

Group B
Snub Nose 38
Ravenspire
Spookistan and Jakalah
McFitzerland
One Red Dot
Massassipi
Rhaken Kull

Group C
Ariddia
Digitex
Runaway Moose
Haraki
Rivadavia
Her Sexyness
Shinjo ViCu

Group D
Lemmitania
Dyelli Beybi
Alhana Catherine
The Divine Llama
Enelando
Audioslavia
Lunatic Goofballs

Group E
Dead Man
Spaam
Kingsford
Vegana
Ineffectualism
Caras Sidh
GATMOG

Group F
Alasdair I Frosticus
Jurassica
Oglethorpia
Pumpkinia
Altamira
The Amused
Vegimate

*The top four teams from each group will advance to the World Cup

**The following teams have received byes on virtue of being the 8 highest ranked teams entered.
-Giant Zucchini
-Europa Britannia
-Tanah Burung
-Steel Shadows
-Svecia
-Brazillico
-Total n Utter Insanity
-Der Angst


***The entire schedule for the qualifiers is at the bottom of this post

The results for qualifying will be posted in this World Cup 4 forum but once we make the actual World Cup, I will telegram you individually the results for your game before posting them in this thread a la World Cup 1 and 2 when you get your results one at a time. For the scoring system, I will use the formula invented by TnUI and used in World Cup 3 which is:

Defense = 0.9-(Rank/500)

That means the opposing team gets 12 attacks which are random numbers between 0 and 1, and the number of attacks greater than the Defence’s magic number will be your opponent’s score. I like this system because it’s fairer to the countries who have participated in the previous cups instead of putting people through who are just in to try it and don’t really participate.

Also, when I send the scores I’ll just send you the full time scores, so it will give you more freedom to RP the results as you and your opponent want them.

As for how my scores will be generated, I’m hoping TnUI will compute them, since he is familiar with the scoring system to dispel any allegations of myself cheating or fixing the results.

For the qualifying and group stages of the World Cup, tie breakers for teams advancing with an even amount of points will be, in this order: Goal Difference, Goals For, Most Wins. If you are still tied after this, a one-game playoff will take place to see who advances to the next round.

For any more information or if you need me to clarify something, feel free to telegram me and I will get back to you as soon as possible.

SCHEDULE FOR QUALIFYING

MATCHDAY 1
Al Quds vs Pablicosta
Dennisov vs Gesamtkuntwerk
Proxy vs The Imperial Navy

Snub Nose 38 vs Ravenspire
Spookistan and Jakalah vs McFitzerland
One Red Dot vs Massassipi

Ariddia vs Digitex
Runaway Moose vs Haraki
Rivadavia vs Her Sexyness

Lemmitania vs Dyelli Beybi
Alhana Catherine vs The Divine Llama
Enelando vs Audioslavia

Dead Man vs Spaam
Kingsford vs Vegana
Ineffectualism vs Caras Sidh

Alasdair I Frosticus vs Jurassica
Oglethorpia vs Pumpkinia
Altamira vs The Amused

MATCHDAY 2
Al Quds – Moyk
Pablicosta – Dennisov
Gesamtkuntwerk – Proxy

Snub Nose 38 - Rhaken Kull
Ravenspire – Spookistan and Jakalah
McFitzerland – One Red Dot

Ariddia – Shinjo ViCu
Digitex – Runaway Moose
Haraki – Rivadavia

Lemmitania – Lunatic Goofballs
Dyelli Beybi – Alhana Catherine
The Divine Llama - Enelando

Dead Man – GATMOG
Spaam – Kingsford
Vegana - Ineffectualism

Alasdair I Frosticus - Vegimate
Jurassica - Oglethorpia
Pumpkinia – Altamira

MATCHDAY 3
Al Quds – Gesamtkuntwerk
Pablicosta – Moyk
Dennisov – The Imperial Navy

Snub Nose 38 - McFitzerland
Ravenspire – Rhaken Kull
Spookistan and Jakalah - Massassipi

Ariddia – Haraki
Digitex – Shinjo ViCu
Runaway Moose – Her Sexyness

Lemmitania – The Divine Llama
Dyelli Beybi – Lunatic Goofballs
Alhana Catherine - Audioslavia

Dead Man – Vegana
Spaam – GATMOG
Kingsford – Caras Sidh

Alasdair I Frosticus – Pumpkinia
Jurassica – Vegimite
Oglethorpia – The Amused

MATCHDAY 4
Al Quds – Proxy
Pablicosta – The Imperial Navy
Dennisov – Moyk

Snub Nose 38 – One Red Dot
Ravenspire – Massassipi
Spookistan and Jakalah – Rhaken Kull

Ariddia – Rivadavia
Digitex – Her Sexyness
Runaway Moose - Shinjo ViCu

Lemmitania - Enelando
Dyelli Beybi - Audioslavia
Alhana Catherine – Lunatic Goofballs

Dead Man - Ineffectualism
Spaam – Caras Sidh
Kingsford - GATMOG

Alasdair I Frosticus - Altamira
Jurassica – The Amused
Oglethorpia - Vegimite

MATCHDAY 5
Al Quds – The Imperial Navy
Pablicosta – Proxy
Gesamtkuntwerk - Moyk

Snub Nose 38 – Massasipi
Ravenspire – One Red Dot
McFitzerland - Rhaken Kull

Ariddia – Her Sexyness
Digitex – Rivadavia
Haraki – Shinjo ViCu

Lemmitania - Audioslavia
Dyelli Beybi - Enelando
The Divine Llama – Lunatic Goofballs

Dead Man – Caras Sidh
Spaam - Ineffectualism
Vegana- GATMOG

Alasdair I Frosticus – The Amused
Spaam – Altamira
Pumpkinia - Vegimite

MATCHDAY 6
Al Quds – Dennisov
Gesamtkuntwerk – The Imperial Navy
Proxy – Moyk

Snub Nose 38 – Spookistan and Jakalah
McFitzerland – Massassipi
One Red Dot - Rhaken Kull

Ariddia – Runaway Moose
Haraki – Her Sexyness
Rivadavia – Shinjo ViCu

Lemmitania - Alhana Catherine
The Divine Llama - Audioslavia
Enelando– Lunatic Goofballs

Dead Man – Kingsford
Vegana – Caras Sidh
Ineffectualism - GATMOG

Alasdair I Frosticus - Oglethorpia
Pumpkinia – The Amused
Altamira - Vegimite

MATCHDAY 7
Pablicosta – Gesamtkuntwerk
Dennisov – Proxy
The Imperial Navy – Moyk

McFitzerland – Ravenspire
Spookistan and Jakalah – One Red Dot
Massassipi - Rhaken Kull

Digitex – Haraki
Runaway Moose – Rivadavia
Her Sexyness – Shinjo ViCu

Dyelli Beybi – The Divine Llama
Alhana Catherine - Enelando
Audioslavia – Lunatic Goofballs

Spaam - Vegana
Kingsford - Ineffectualism
Caras Sidh – GATMOG

Jurassica – Pumpkinia
Oglethorpia - Altamira
The Amused - Vegimate
Vilita
28-01-2005, 16:26
WC12 Signup: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=302378

WC13: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=317426
WC14: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=325184

WC13 Scores: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=317428
WC13 Rosters: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=317431
WC13 Signup: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=309674

WC15 Signup: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=323909
WC15 Roster: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=331489


U21 II: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=321490
U21 III: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=340070
U21 V: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349028
U21 VI: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360788
U21 VII: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371371
U21 VII: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=375285
U21 IX: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381202
U21 X: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386163

BOF 15: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=330475
BOF 16: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339822
BOF 17: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349645
BOF 18: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=364185
BOF 19: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374306
BOF 20: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385907

COH 14: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=329575
COH (16?): http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=349768
COH 17: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362760
COH 19: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=381914


ECIII: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352262
ECIV: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=374628

CC1: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350728

IRC I: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341413

Masters (Unfinished): http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=348196
Snub Nose 38
06-02-2005, 16:10
Final BUMP
Hiiraan
06-02-2005, 19:05
i will take over bumbing
Vilita
06-02-2005, 19:24
hiiaran, stop. :)