NationStates Jolt Archive

It seems to me that about 75% of all nations on NS claim to be socialist, I want to see for myself, so I started this poll.

i put democratic in quotes...its the US after all lol

i put democratic in quotes...its the US after all lol

You must be new here, otherwise you would realist that a majority of people here are from europe, the World Cup 14 gave that away. God I hate soccer.

Molonlabe is a Constitutional Republic. This means we have a Government with very limited powers. Examples:

Post Office, Fire Department, and Schools are all privately run

No welfare or other government handouts of ANY kind

However, we do have States which enjoy a great amount of sovreignty. Some States have State operated health care systems, but not many. One is even experimenting with government run public schools, which is a wildly unpopular scheme there.

Law Enforcement is entirely left to the States. At this time, all contract out to private security firms. One State, Highland, is considering nonrenewal of their contract with Security Concepts, Inc. and deputizing the entire militia to serve as Peace Officers; this means that all citizens would hold arrest powers and would be legally responsible to arrest criminals.

A republic is generally considered a democracy, I believe the official term is representative democracy or something like that, oh well, thank you for clarifying Molonlabe.

BUMP

Imperialistic Expansionist State. One bent on conquring all of Eastern Europe.

Styled on a election based platform. One ruler, nine speakers. Very authoritative based.

to clarify...

Socialism is an economic factor, unless of course, you mean the system of oligarchial collectivism practised under the totalitarian régimes of Stalin, Mao, etc. It does not neccessarily mitigate the possibility of a democratic form of government.

Having said that, Freebodnik Six would fall into the Democratic system of government, that being the real-democratic system practised by communities such as the New England township.

The nation is divided into approximately 25,000 small townships, which are self-governing regarding town matters, and self-reliant with regards to agriculture and light industry. Certain heavier industries required in various amounts by certain communities are owned centrally and regulated by a system of collective work-credit and requisition. However, as Freebodnik Six does not keep a military, nor does it indulge in capitalistic selling, the heavier industries are far outstripped by cottage industries such as basket making and weaving and other such activities.

These towns meet five times a year ( a quintannual plenum ) in a digital congress wherein issues are decided upon and voted with a 75% majority vote. Voting is compulsory, and every citizen (every individual above the age of 16), is obligated to participate in the congress. The decision making process involves the vote of every township - that being - a township takes into account the issues brought up in the national congress and votes on them. The vote of the town (yea, nay, etc) is sent to the congress, and the majority decides the outcome.

Being a 75% majority, each plenum of the Freebodnik Unified Congress can last for weeks, having no set deadline. If a plenum should go for such a long time that it merges with the schedule for another, the issues are merely mothballed according to importance at the time (also decided by majority - though that is a 65% majority).

When a law comes into being it becomes a town prerogative to enforce. If a town acts in contravention to the law its case is taken to a National Court, wherein all interested parties have a say and vote on the town's case. If a town is found to be in unlawful contravention, it is censured and for a brief time, a representative (or team of representatives) is sent to the town to negotiate until such a time that the law is found to be inadequate and changed, or until the town can come into agreement with the body politic.

That basically sums up the economic, political, and judicial system.

~Freebz

Well, it would appeat that the exact opposite of what I thought is true, the socialist are heavily out numbered, oh well, this cant be too representative of the forms of government every one has, after all, not everyone has voted.

The "government" is a corperation, exerting power of several nations creating a economic/millitary dependance between the subsidiary nations. AFRP just got lucky enough to be the nation in which the corperation HQ is based in.

So in a sense we are a communistic nation because there is no private ownership, its all part of the corperation, but we are capitalistic because we as a corperation play the market between the countries to make a profit.

Call us a: Corperate Communistic Capitalist.

Only us capitialists are on this late. Third Shift pays better, you see... :wink:

We're a capitalist corporation. As if there was any other kind. :P

i put democratic in quotes...its the US after all lol

You must be new here, otherwise you would realist that a majority of people here are from europe, the World Cup 14 gave that away. God I hate soccer.

I know many participants of the world cup, who are from the US or canada.

The Rejis is a federal democracy without central elections. Its politics are mostly inspired by social democracy, liberalism and religion.

Corporate nationalist. Oligarchist. My government is basically a council of megacorp CEOs. Nationalism is more evident here than in true nations run "by a corporation." Militarism is too. My theory: the corporations make so much money, that if they didn't have a drain on the profits in the form of the ITDO (the military), the country would suffer through hyperinflation.

California is a Democtaric-Socialist nation, but also an 'Imperialist' Expansionist state.

The people enjoy all the rights and freedoms that were given them in the Constitution of the former United States of America and more, each state is allowed to elect their own senators and depending on the affiliated party that state is won by that particular party. The people are also allowed to elect officials to government administration positions, although only up to Vice-President (seeing as the President is an immmortal).

Medieval monarchy (English-style)

Liberal Democratik socialist republic, or I was until the UN decided I am a left-wing Utopia. Still, I count myself as the first alternative.

The Republic of Syskeyia, now 700+ years old, is a federal democratic republic.

The relationship between the provinces and the national government is basically the same relationship that (should) exist in the US between the states and the federal govt.

On the national level, the government is split into three branches- the Executive (Consulate), Legislative (Parliament) and Judicial (High Court). Elaborating further, the government is said to have a "mixed presidential/parliamentary" form of government because while the Executive branch (the Praesidens et Primus Consul and the Consul) resembles the US Presidency, the Syskeyian Parliament more or less resembles a parliamentary legislature (in the sense that there are members of the "government" (i.e. the president's party/faction) and the "opposition" (those opposing the party in [presidential] power, who form a "shadow government" and usually provide the front-running opponent in the consular elections.)

There are no herediatry positions in the government, although the Senators are elected by provincial legislatures and not directly by the people.

Provincial governments, likewise, are organized on the democratic/republican basis. Ditto for local government as well.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Well to get really technical with you we probably have a democratic form of government as we have elections every twenty years, but the elections determine the Policies of the government for the next twenty years, this time the people chose a more nationalistic form of leadership.

Of course everyone wants to be socialist. No one likes starving on the streets, and we can make communism work here.

Anarchticon is a cross between Nationalism and Socialism. Extreme loyatly to the government is expected, at the same time we, the government, promote business out the ying-yang!

I chose "other", though maybe Imperialist would of been a better choice.
Skeelzania is a militaristic, expansionist nation that has a low tolerance for different species as well as religious sects. The country is a pro-business police state that greatly desires to be self sufficent (so as to diminsh the reliance upon foriegn powers).

On top of this, Skeelzania is a monarchy with well defined social classes with military service or corporate ownership being the only real ways to advance in life. In short, we are anything BUT socialist.

Anarchticon is a cross between Nationalism and Socialism. Extreme loyatly to the government is expected, at the same time we, the government, promote business out the ying-yang!

Sorry, but aren't socialists incredibly anti-business? "Down with corporations!" and whatnot?

Cattious is a surrealist semi-socialist state with maximum polititical and social freedoms. Our citizens can do basically anything they want, as long as it is not hurting another who is not willing to be hurt, but citizens are encouraged to look out for the community. We go out of our way to make life here as weird as possible, hence the surrealist.

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I'm a very small psychotic dictatorship now, also a pupper to a much larger nation, but I have goals that I like dreaming about :twisted:

Well, this is interesting, the socialist have made quite a comback, this is how the poll looked last night after the first ten votes.

Socialist State 0 (0%)
Nationalist State 4 (40%)
Democratic State 4 (40%)
Imperialist Expansionist State 1 (10%)
Other (Specify in main body) 1 (10%)

I thought those numbers seemed a little off, as I though, the socialist have now pulled ahead, I did not think it would take this long though, the socialist must be day people.

We are imperialistic and expansionist, though at one time we were right wing communists. We've amended our ways and everyone in the empire gets a really nice map of their nation like this: Yurka (http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/BrianJ/Yurka.bmp)

We're also militaristic, thus the name "Militaristic Empire". 8)

Haaregradia is a social democracy. There's currently the Socialist Party in power, however the Nationalist Party and the Liberal Democrat Party both could pose a threat, the Communists, Greens, Fascists and Libertarians are all too small to pose a threat.

the People's Republic of Kay Son is a socialist democracy that has just stepped out of a long interregum ruled by the military. The specifics of our government on the federal level are:

The Executive Branch consists of the Prime Minister [elected every 4 years by the people] and the Cabinet of Ministers [consiting of 8 ministers, Defense held by the military] As for the Legislative Branch, there are two branches: the House of Commons and the House of Lords. Those whom serve in the House of Commons are elected every 2 years and are called Representatives. Those whom serve in the House of Lords are called Senators and are elected every 4 years. The Military retains the right to declare military law only if a party within the two branches gains sweeping power [i.e. a complete socialist state]. The Judicial Branch is independent of the Legislative and the Executive with the lowest tier known as the Civil Court and the highest known as the High Court. The Military retains the right in the Judicial Branch to meet out any punishment they seek to convicted criminals.

Below the federal level is the district level which mimics the federal level.

The Dominion of Adderton is a parlimentary democracy.

Consitutional Monarchy...

So it would appear that many of the people who put other are either a form of monarchy or a form of Socialist/Democracy combination.

Democracy... but looking.

Churchhill was right -- democracy is the worst form of government, except all of the others that have been tried. So why has the world stopped trying?

The Confederacy of Free Morons is a democracy in the loosest sense of the word. Sort of a democracy experimenting with different things.

I consider the ESF to be a democratic empire.
A emporer is elected into office when the other one is either dead or been removed from power. (He commited criminal or unjust things.) The emporer has authority to declare war but no power over what laws are passed by the Council of 9 (The Elected Senate , every member serves till they resign) . He also controls all foreign affairs. And that is basically my government.

I voted "other" as I didn't find an option that didn't involve some measure of democracy or socially enlightened society, but wasn't also warlike. We're an Empire that isn't seeking to expand our borders or get into a fight with anybody we don't absolutely have to. Political Freedoms are outlawed, and folks are left to live or die on their own merits.

:D Is this a trick question? :lol:

Meithra is a Freeland

Meithra is a Freeland

BUMP!!!

Military government so i guess thats national

Um..none of the above. Depending on your perspective, Iansisle can be a monarchy, an empire, the most liberal democracy in existance, or the most reactionary state to pass through NationStates.

Confused yet? I'd hope you would be. The simple answer is that Iansisle is, most simply, a constitutional monarchy with a strong head of state, stronger lords, and a relatively weak proletariat. However, we also maintain several colonies, who would protest most vehemently that we're dirty rotten imperialists. And then there's the fact that 'Iansisle' is really a Commonwealth of Nations which consists of the Grand Empire of the Shield and four self-governing Dominions, which range from the extremely liberal (like Troobodia) to the ultra-conservative (Tharia), as well as the Archduchy of Sentry Island, the colonies, and the domains of the East Gallaga Company.

Where was this all going? I've quite forgotten. So, right...other.

Isn't it fun to force things into neatly ordered categories, reality be damned?

Well, I gota bottle of Corona, a good DVD in, and some free time, so let me explain Imitora a bit.

The government is headed up by 10 speakers, 2 from each district (north south east west), and 2 from the colective colonies (currently Vietnam, Cambodia, Groombridge System). One speaker is elected the head of the speakers, and is given the title First Speaker. He has supreme authority, with no senate, parliment, or anythgin of the like.

The other nine speakers act as advisors, and have no real power, but do have executive honor and privlage. There is no constitution or bill of rights, as privlages are assumed, and the word of the First Speaker goes.

The government is devided into two branches: Executive and Operational. Operational carries out the acts of the government, and basically it combines the Judicial and Legislative (to a degree) branch. Under the Operational Branch are the five departments: Intelligence, Military, Police, Treasury, and Foriegn Affairs.

Intell includes the ICIA, INSA, IINS, and joint Cooperation with the Military Intell units. Military is the ICMC and INOF. Police are the local poice units, in co-op with the IOFI.

The treasury is where most of the work comes, as the Treasury is also where the IOFI (Imitora Office of Federal Investigation), IFBC (Imitora Free Buisness Council), IIEO (Imitora Import Export Office), and where the money is printed all have headquarters. Foriegn Affairs is slef explanatory.

The Imitora Secret Service is actually part of the Executive Branch, and work directly with the speakers, and not through anyone else. The First Speaker also has control of the ICMC's 33rd Diplomatic Reserve, a Covert Ops unit that handles problems with diplomatic affairs, and also has control of what is known as the FSOU, or First Speakers Operation Unit, a 42 man Covert Ops unit that basically does what ever ordered to.

If you have anymore questions, just tgram me, and I'll be glad to answer them.

Bump.

The People's Republic of Vorpoing would like to clarify our government structure and political system. We are a pure socialist state, though our UN designation is "Scandinavian Liberal Paradise." We believe the UN doesn't quite know what to do with our worker-run economy. Below is a re-post from our regional message board that details how our economy and political system is run.

The People's Republic of Vorpoing has a democratic system that governs not only political affairs, but the economy as well. It is split into two distinct but cooperative systems.

The economy is directly controlled by the working class. Local workers' councils, elected directly by the people, meet in cities across the country to decide production quotas and other economic matters based on public need. These local workers' councils send delegates to regional councils, which work on broader production goals and ensuring a diversity of goods and services within the region. Each region sends delegates to the National Workers' Council, which meets in the capital city. The National Workers' Council meets to decide national economic priorities and ensure that all regions are working cooperatively for the good of the nation.

Anyone over 16 who holds a steady, productive job is eligible to run for workers' council and delegate positions.

Parallel to the workers' councils is a parliamentary democratic system charged with running the civil and political affairs of the nation. Citizens elect local council members who are charged with ensuring the distribution of social services, forming local policy, and handling other day to day civil affairs. One level up from local councils are the regional councils. Some mebers of regional councils are elected delegates from local councils, and some are directly elected by the citizenry. The same sort of system applies at the National Popular Council, which meets in the capital city. Regional councils have seats on the Council, and some seats are elected directly by the citizenry.

Political parties are free to exist and to agitate for their ideas within the scope of the socialist vision of Vorpoing. If any political party should gain a majority of seats in the National Popular Council, it is entitled to nominate a Peoples' Spokesperson. The Peoples' Spokesperson has a role that is largely ceremonial, but is useful in attending state functions and representing the nation in the international arena. He is helped in the latter case by the International Friendship Liason.

At present, Vorpoing has four major political parties with seats in the National Popular Council.

The leading party is the Popular Socialist Party, with 115 seats. This party controls the government and its leader, Garreth Manfried, is Peoples' Spokesperson. The PSP has been in power for the past 5 years, and all indications are that it will hold its majority in the National Popular Council for some time to come.

The second largest party is the Militant Communist Party, whose aims are somewhat different than those of the Popular Socialist Party. It currently holds 75 seats in the NPC, and can often act as a force to pull the PSP to the left on certain issues.

The other two parties have recently formed a coalition, boosting their total seats to 50. The Moderate Party and the Green Party, who often felt ignored by the PSP, have formed a voting bloc that has managed to moderate some of the more radical elements in the PSP and the MCP, and turn the country's attention more firmly to environmental concerns.

As in all democracies, smaller parties exist and exert a certain amount of influence, but are not all worth mentioning.

Anyone over 16 who holds a steady, productive job can run for any political position.


We hope this clarifies and enlightens those who may have a misunderstanding about the nature of a socialist state. We understand there have been numerous failed socialist experiments in the past. All of these experiments failed because states tried to "skip" the essential capitalist phase of historical development, and move straight from feudalism to socialism. Obviously this didn't work. Vorpoing went through the entire capitalist cycle, and the evolution to socialism was a natural next step. Assuming your nation follows the same natural economic progression, it too will one day acheive socialism.

Democratically elected dictator.

im a new york time democraty...although i dont know what that is...

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