NationStates Jolt Archive

The Imperial Air Corps announced at at press conference yesterday that two new Sky Furnaces, the Glaurung and the Gothmog, were complete and ready for operation. Warlord Garrand said he was "very much looking forward to seeing our new ships in action."

He then went on to clarify that the Glaurung would be replacing the fallen Carcharoth in the 4th Fleet, and the Gothmog was to be assigned to the 6th. Expectations have been running high since last February, when crews announced that they were six weeks ahead of schedule with construction efforts, and the Corps has begun a recruitment drive in the strongholds of Angband and Utumno to staff the vessels, which are expected to launch in three weeks.

--Excerpt from ChronosNews

one of jupiters moons would like to send a student to you to aid in the staffing your ship, so that we can have a better understanding on how to go about managing one ourselves.
representitive marvin

call me bitch will you :P

sorry cant read that

call me bitch will you :P

I would, but that's rude.

IC: We congratulate you, Melkor Unchained, on building two fine ships. We hope you will use them for the purposes of peace.

one of jupiters moons would like to send a student to you to aid in the staffing your ship, so that we can have a better understanding on how to go about managing one ourselves.
representitive marvin

No thanks. If we'd have wanted other people to use this weaponry, we'd have shipped out the blueprints and done staffing programs like this a long time ago.

call me bitch will you :P

I would, but that's rude.

IC: We congratulate you, Melkor Unchained, on building two fine ships. We hope you will use them for the purposes of peace.

"Peace?, darling, Melkor is war and evil incarnated. He has no desire for peace, just for slaughtering elves. Those weapons of mass destruction are just another proof that you Melkor, are a stain in the world of Ilúvatar!"

Princess Aliria D'Hyru

"So What?, they're still a lumbering piece of crap that moves like an elephant and fires a huge amount of fire if you approach it too much right?. Bah, that things are too slow for our ships"

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

The Federal Republic would like to send the most sincere possible congratulations on the construction of these two new ships.

Executive Timothy Cordell
Konanian Federal Republic

* * *

"How much is 'most possible'?"

"All things considered? Not much, Sam."

"Peace?, darling, Melkor is war and evil incarnated. He has no desire for peace, just for slaughtering elves. Those weapons of mass destruction are just another proof that you Melkor, are a stain in the world of Ilúvatar!"

Princess Aliria D'Hyru

I would ask why he uses Elves for the purpose of destroying elves, but the sheer irony that you can't understand geneology with your static minds and lost theories that don't amount to jack shit in a universe that cares nothing for your petty gods, your idiotic race, or your lost heritage would probably cause you to kill yourself.

--Riga, High Inquisitor of Lopnel, The Clan of the Red Blade

"So What?, they're still a lumbering piece of crap that moves like an elephant and fires a huge amount of fire if you approach it too much right?. Bah, that things are too slow for our ships"

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

How many battles have you actually had experience with them? Uhh..ZERO right? Okay...thanks. Gosh, you must enjoy having an opinion that means nothing. You keep on doing that...

--Zaeth Arali of the High First

"Peace?, darling, Melkor is war and evil incarnated. He has no desire for peace, just for slaughtering elves. Those weapons of mass destruction are just another proof that you Melkor, are a stain in the world of Ilúvatar!"

Princess Aliria D'Hyru

I would ask why he uses Elves for the purpose of destroying elves, but the sheer irony that you can't understand geneology with your static minds and lost theories that don't amount to jack shit in a universe that cares nothing for your petty gods, your idiotic race, or your lost heritage would probably cause you to kill yourself.

--Riga, High Inquisitor of Lopnel, The Clan of the Red Blade

"So What?, they're still a lumbering piece of crap that moves like an elephant and fires a huge amount of fire if you approach it too much right?. Bah, that things are too slow for our ships"

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

How many battles have you actually had experience with them? Uhh..ZERO right? Okay...thanks. Gosh, you must enjoy having an opinion that means nothing. You keep on doing that...

--Zaeth Arali of the High First

I can tolerate your insults concerning me, yet thanks to your words referring to the Eternal Princess, I won't rest until all your dying race rests under the ground in mounds. I have forgotten more about war and tactics than you have ever learned. I have seen those things in action, yes, and I also have fought Melkor's forces in the past, Dark Lapdog. And yes, that means that The Sindarin Empire of Aelosia is declaring war against your petty country, Greenskin.

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Skyfurnaces are not slow by any means. They're flaying weapons platforms. That's why we've used Ortillery against similar craft. Too dangerous to take them on hed to head.

The Imperial Air Corps announced at at press conference yesterday that two new Sky Furnaces, the Glaurung and the Gothmog, were complete and ready for operation. Warlord Garrand said he was "very much looking forward to seeing our new ships in action."

He then went on to clarify that the Glaurung would be replacing the fallen Carcharoth in the 4th Fleet, and the Gothmog was to be assigned to the 6th. Expectations have been running high since last February, when crews announced that they were six weeks ahead of schedule with construction efforts, and the Corps has begun a recruitment drive in the strongholds of Angband and Utumno to staff the vessels, which are expected to launch in three weeks.

--Excerpt from ChronosNews

I wonder what helpless nation will have "forest fires" soon.

Skyfurnaces are not slow by any means. They're flaying weapons platforms. That's why we've used Ortillery against similar craft. Too dangerous to take them on hed to head.

We'd like to inquire when and where you encountered these 'similar ships' and who owns them.

DGNT congratulates Melkor on the completion of these great ships, DGNTs own fleet recently began work on the Piledriver class Atilla, which will be finished sometime within the next twenty years. Damn things take forever to finish.

I can tolerate your insults concerning me, yet thanks to your words referring to the Eternal Princess, I won't rest until all your dying race rests under the ground in mounds. I have forgotten more about war and tactics than you have ever learned. I have seen those things in action, yes, and I also have fought Melkor's forces in the past, Dark Lapdog. And yes, that means that The Sindarin Empire of Aelosia is declaring war against your petty country, Greenskin.

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

News from the Temple of Lopnel concerns the fact that Lord Riga, Grand Inquisitor of Lopnel, Cheif of the Clan of the Red Blade, has passed out from asphyxiation due to a long streak of laughter. The Poor Crusader was unnable to keep breathing from his fit of hilarity.

Riga has been taken to a barber's down the Red Mountain to check his progress as he recovers.

Skyfurnaces are not slow by any means. They're flaying weapons platforms. That's why we've used Ortillery against similar craft. Too dangerous to take them on hed to head.

We'd like to inquire when and where you encountered these 'similar ships' and who owns them.They were based losely on your designs and were rather easy to knock off. The nation in question was destroyed and absorbed by another nation long ago.

Dontgonearthere, I know what you mean. It took a whole RP (and over a month realtime) to build one super capital class ship with a giant lazer. Two sky furnaces or your Atilla must take forever to build, too.

The Eternal Dominion of Wretchengard would like to congratulate Lord Melkor's Imperium for the successful completion of these new Skyfurnaces. May they bring great success to the Imperium for years to come.

I can tolerate your insults concerning me, yet thanks to your words referring to the Eternal Princess, I won't rest until all your dying race rests under the ground in mounds. I have forgotten more about war and tactics than you have ever learned. I have seen those things in action, yes, and I also have fought Melkor's forces in the past, Dark Lapdog. And yes, that means that The Sindarin Empire of Aelosia is declaring war against your petty country, Greenskin.

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Hold your threats, elf. Any and all attempts to invade Arda will be repelled. That is not a threat, but a promise.

Bradley Steelblood
Overlord of the Eternal Dominion of Wretchengard

The Ministry of Peace offers their most sincere congratualtions on the completion of these impressive vessels. They also look foward to the opportunity to see the new Skyfurnaces in action; hopefully soon and as a guest observer.

[ooc: hint hint :wink: ]

in an unsual message from Senator Orion:

"Meh"

Tag and OOC Aelosia.. you you... ARGH I was so close but but wow this could change all my plans in a second... OUCH!!

The Temple of The Eight Headed Serpent congratulates The Allmighty Morgoth for the culmination of his new flagships. Hope the destrucction they'll cause works for your plans.

In other matters, This seens as a good oportunity to gain renown in the NS cosmos, so We will support our lately "allies" Aelosia in the coming War against the High Orcs.

Tremble in fear Bad imitation of Orcs, Because The Dark Lord Fu Leng It's not as benevolent as Lord Melkor.

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*** Daigotsu, Supreme Lord of the Orochi Shadowlands


OOC: Cool, a war. This sounds like a new RP for everyone and a good oportunity for me to begin ro roll in this forum... :D

We forsee that any war with Arda most likely will not be fought IN Arda. I don't think there is any place on the planet with that many despots with huge military budgets that close together.

OOC: If there is one... should I join? And on which side? I'm on good terms with both sides! :lol:

The Temple of The Eight Headed Serpent congratulates The Allmighty Morgoth for the culmination of his new flagships. Hope the destrucction they'll cause works for your plans.

In other matters, This seens as a good oportunity to gain renown in the NS cosmos, so We will support our lately "allies" Aelosia in the coming War against the High Orcs.

Tremble in fear Bad imitation of Orcs, Because The Dark Lord Fu Leng It's not as benevolent as Lord Melkor.

Yes, ally with a barbaric creature with no sense of civility and against all forms of unalienable rights to free speech. You certainly show your ability to go with good, don't you? If anything, you'll gain reknown to be the first nation of humans to be enslaved by Orcs

--Etorek Brelavudd of the Red Blade

You know we don't allow slavery Etorek. It was banned by Orcish Doctrine after we gained our freedom from the Elves after the Elf-Dwarf War of the Second Age.

--Zigokor Cerikin, Priest of Lopnel

What in the bloody hell..? Bad Imitation of Orcs? Are you sure you have a brain, or is there a scared rat inside your skull clawing its way out?

--Zaeth Arali of the High Fist


OOC: Cool, a war. This sounds like a new RP for everyone and a good oportunity for me to begin ro roll in this forum... :D

OOC: War's not a cool thing. The whole premise of this escalating is completely stupid. I guess she just wanted a reason to call us enemies because every time she tried to classify us as Orcs in Tolkien's sense, we shot her down with cold hard logic.

We forsee that any war with Arda most likely will not be fought IN Arda. I don't think there is any place on the planet with that many despots with huge military budgets that close together.

OOC: If there is one... should I join? And on which side? I'm on good terms with both sides! :lol:

OOC: The only way to reach us is by going on the ground. The High Orc's passion for regional defense assures that any force will be hard pressed to step food on the ground. All Holes have been covered. You can't genocidally eliminate an entire race older than your own because they insulted your princess in an exercise of Freedom of Speech without actually trying to seek them out on their home turf.

Also, if you have strong ties with both, it's best to claim diplomatic neutrality (Switzardland) and stay out of the entire affair.

"Your insult was unprovoked, and although I can't see how a war is a solution regarding this affair, knowing our Prince's temper, your flagrant and repeated violations of the international etiquette are unforgivable. Even as I'm a pacifist, I must recognize that you must be punished for your actions. Even as I would prefer an embargo or a diplomatic action, according to our laws, you overextended our patience"

Imperial Chancellor, ArchDuchess Celestrianna Paelisi.

"I just can't see how they believe they're superior to us just by babbling insults against people that they don't know or understand. I'm so sad about this, I suppose all of this could be fixed with just an apology, I'm sure they didn't mean an insult like that"

Princess Aliria D'Hyru

"We won't invade Arda as whole, as a prevention of an all-out war, but any assets of the High Orcs that we could find will be destroyed without mercy or kindness. Thereby their people is declared our enemy, until this grudge is repayed, and I'm finished about this matter."

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

OOC: Hey, you were looking for what?. since long time ago you're trying to provoke my characters and my nation IC. I know I even like you OOC, but I think my elves are proud enough to have a limit of respect. You're insulting them almost in a weekly basis...Again OOC, I can't invade your country, because that would be challenging Arda as a whole, but I'll try that nothing will leave your country under the premise of being destroyed. And messing with the Princess was a bad idea, a very bad one. and insulting is not exactly a freedom of speech, you know?. Freedom of speech don't give you the right of letting out whatever you want from your mouth, expecting just smiles from those that are around you.

And another note...I try to classify you IC as an Orc in Tolkien's sense because...you guessed it!, my elves are Tolkien elves!, it's just natural to them to classify you as such!. And as I even gave you the chance to prove it in the other thread! (although you just tried to offend my characters then). I didn't want to call you an enemy, but you were asking for it since the first contact of our nations IC. I didn't looked for reasons, you gave me plenty enough to choose. And your logic is not exactly "cold logic", it's just the twisted concept that you created about orcs that, although it's original, interesting and creative, it's not compulsory to accept by everyone. And you have some flaws on it too, as how they despise the elfkin that were corrupted into the traditional orcs, but defend and live with the creator of them.

You didn't exactly "shot me down", you just worked out things from your point of view without considering mine. From my point of view, the word was created by Eru and orcs were created by Melkor by corrupting elves. If you're not one of those orcs, then you come from another galaxy, another reality or another world. I can accept any of those reasons, but you can't force me to accept that your history line is right and mine is wrong just because you say so. So, if you're not the traditional orcs for me, neither my elves are the elves of your storyline or your "world", as I tried to convince you in a "friendly" way in my thread...

High Inquisitor Riga has recently been excused from the Barber's (Barbers were doctors in the Medieval Ages, if you didn't know; Their brutal practices and awful techniques usually tortured their patience to death instead of helped them.), so all is well. He is ready to defend himself.

"Your insult was unprovoked, and although I can't see how a war is a solution regarding this affair, knowing our Prince's temper, your flagrant and repeated violations of the international etiquette are unforgivable. Even as I'm a pacifist, I must recognize that you must be punished for your actions. Even as I would prefer an embargo or a diplomatic action, according to our laws, you overextended our patience"

Imperial Chancellor, ArchDuchess Celestrianna Paelisi.

Flagrant Violations?
Repeated Violations?
International Etiquette?

Woman please. There's no such thing as international etiquette. If there was, we were no part of the meeting to determine what exactly it was. If we were absent, if very much can't be international if we are a nation, can it? I see no documents of what international etiquette is, and there's no rules saying I have to be polite to any motherfu|cker, even if they're some haughty elves with some crank-operated thorny stick up their ass set powered by a water mill built on a river's cliff. I'm not going to be polite to anyone, as frankly, I don't have to. If your Prince gets so pissed off by a stupid insult that he could destroy an entire race because of it, than he doesn't deserve the power he's been given. He's obviously very immature, and has no sense of clear thought. I don't have to be nice to be assured of my own intelligence, as I am much smarter than to resort to such barbaric behavior just because my feelings were hurt. My whole race was almost destroyed before. I was there fighting. So by all means, if you think you can make me cry, go right ahead. I'll invite you over to the Temple of Lopnel and we'll have a night of drinking. Whoever passes out first gets shitted on by a dozen dorns.

--High Inquisitor Riga, Crusading Paladin of Lopnel, Clan of the Red Blade

"I just can't see how they believe they're superior to us just by babbling insults against people that they don't know or understand. I'm so sad about this, I suppose all of this could be fixed with just an apology, I'm sure they didn't mean an insult like that"

Princess Aliria D'Hyru

Nowhere in the Orcish Doctrine is there a line about superiority or elitism. Y'know, if you want a copy of our Laws, you're welcome to ask, because all these assumptions of our racial dispositions really make y'all out to be a bunch of dumb-asses. I don't much care for stupidity, as its no one's fault by your own for not taking the time or chance to learn what you should know. Of course, that's my own opinion, and as a Paladin, I need to be very strict and disciplined in the training of my Knights to herald Lopnel. We don't believe there's such a thing as superiority. The Orcish Doctrine says two things about such occassions, and I'll bless you with the knowledge of a segment of the Orcish Doctrine so you may be enlightened on the Universal Laws:


Might makes Right.
The Weak exist only to serve the Strong.
There is no Good or Evil, there is only the Will of those Strong enough to Rule.
Orcs are among the Noblest of Races, such as the Elves and the Great Titans.
No Orc shall bow his head before any other, save another Orc.
There is no Honor in Cowardice and Weakness.
The Will of All Orcs shall be the Will of Every Orc.
The Leaders of the Clans shall speak the Word of the Clans, and their Word shall be Law.
Peace and Harmony are weakness; Conquest is the only True Existence.


I won't apologize for something you shouldn't have been insulted about. It's stupid for someone to take that dishearteningly, because it's true! I don't have to understand jack shit about your people or your history to know that it doesn't matter in a realm where in you have no history. That's common fu|cking sense right there lady. You don't see me babbling on about how bad we had it when we were enslaved by the Palladium Elves, or how close we would have achieved ChumRas Orka if we had succeeded in Balraga. Because frankly, it doesn't matter in this realm. Nothing in Palladium matters in this realm, because this realm isn't Palladium. The same can be said about your sordid past and your sordid encounters. It's all a bunch of bullhockey and won't help you. My advice is that you get your fat-ass off that chair of ancient prophecies and ritualistic behavior and hatred, and start looking at things in a whole new light with a nice clean slate on your racist block because honestly, you're in a bit over your head with us.

--High Inquisitor Riga, Crusading Paladin of Lopnel, Clan of the Red Blade

"We won't invade Arda as whole, as a prevention of an all-out war, but any assets of the High Orcs that we could find will be destroyed without mercy or kindness. Thereby their people is declared our enemy, until this grudge is repayed, and I'm finished about this matter."

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral

Yes, because we're shipping all sorts of stuff out into space. I've heard stories and accounts from the EnheilRas about your little ship. Y'know, besides those rockets from neighnoring nations which we pretty much fill with refuse and troll shit, we don't much send stuff out of Arda. Everything is recycled and re-used. However, if you are so ardant about blowing up our rockets filled with dung that hover too close to you on their way to the sun. Be my guest, just don't bill me for your cleaning.

I also congradulate you on your quickness to hatred. I'd have expected a slap to the cheek with your white collar cotton glove, then pistols at sundown. Y'know, when you're ready to drop all this trials of antiquity bullshit and learn to cope in the real world, you contact me once more. I'll be able to have fun with you elves again just like last time. You can bring that chancellor woman and come drink with me. Same bet with the dorn shitting. Second place will only get half the crap.

--High Inquisitor Riga, Crusading Paladin of Lopnel, Clan of the Red Blade

OOC: Now for OOC responses..YAY

OOC: Hey, you were looking for what?. since long time ago you're trying to provoke my characters and my nation IC. I know I even like you OOC, but I think my elves are proud enough to have a limit of respect. You're insulting them almost in a weekly basis...Again OOC, I can't invade your country, because that would be challenging Arda as a whole, but I'll try that nothing will leave your country under the premise of being destroyed. And messing with the Princess was a bad idea, a very bad one. and insulting is not exactly a freedom of speech, you know?. Freedom of speech don't give you the right of letting out whatever you want from your mouth, expecting just smiles from those that are around you.

Riga wasn't trying to provoke anyone. That's just how Riga acts. He's a hot head with a quick mouth, sharp wit, and flagrancy for abusive statements and actions. It's a natural fasade for his high intelligence and devout practices to Lopnel, the Red God of Conquest. You can find more about his personality in the Wazzu Arda Thread. Riga is a bad-ass. His attitude is like him probably due to him being very small for a High Orc. One could say underdeveloped. He's very angry and lashes out at the world because of this, but those are just the psychological aspects of Riga. He's one-of-a-kind in the Clans, and one of the most respected fighters that the Race has ever known.

I will disagree with you on the Freedom of Speech ordeal. Insulting anyone or anything is Freedom of Speech. To imply that it isn't, negates the whole Freedom of Speech ideology. Freedom of Speech is complete. One should be able to communicate in any way their own opinion, whatever it may be, without any sort of forced concession or consequence. If this means one must be able to shrug off other's apparent rudeness, than it is done. Then again, there's nothing prohibiting their own opinion to be expressed right back. That's how it goes though. Riga has no problem telling anyone what he thinks. His invitation is valid though if you want to come drinking at the Temple.

And another note...I try to classify you IC as an Orc in Tolkien's sense because...you guessed it!, my elves are Tolkien elves!, it's just natural to them to classify you as such!. And as I even gave you the chance to prove it in the other thread! (although you just tried to offend my characters then). I didn't want to call you an enemy, but you were asking for it since the first contact of our nations IC. I didn't looked for reasons, you gave me plenty enough to choose. And your logic is not exactly "cold logic", it's just the twisted concept that you created about orcs that, although it's original, interesting and creative, it's not compulsory to accept by everyone. And you have some flaws on it too, as how they despise the elfkin that were corrupted into the traditional orcs, but defend and live with the creator of them.

You need to understand that for as long as you've played this game, you've not been in Tolkien's world or followed any of Tolkien's rules. I realize that Elves are slow to evolve as they are slow to reproduce (Populations are dynamic in accordance to immortality), so they're probably one of the worst races in all of fantasy land in adaptation (besides Gods and/or Dragons, but this is obvious). I'd have hoped that your people would have had the common sense to realize that all that they've known is no more and they should move on, but some people (especially elves) can be stubborn to give up their old lives and habits and move on.

In the Instance of the Party Thread, you must realize that problems were going to arise when the conflict of opposing cultures met. That's just how things are. I will admit that Teel didn't do very well, but then again, Teel is just as Stubborn in his own ways and views, so he wouldn't've handled it well. To each their own unique personality. There are going to be clashes. How they are resolved, if ever they are to be resolved, will ultimately decide the relationship between the 13 Clans and Aelosia. If memory serves, the only real reason you allowed their presence was because Sirithil told you to in IRC. This may be why you have pretty much blown off any true communication with them, and why they stagnate there while Sirithil pretty much is ignoring your thread's existence.

They don't loathe or dispise the Elfkin at all. In fact, there were plans set into motion to liberate all the Orcs under Morgoth in a Grand Revolt that would pretty much leave him without a Grand totality of his WorkForce until the projects to determine what exactly these 'Orcs' were. The Clans had been suspicious of them, as a notable percentage of the Raging Bear (The largest of all Clans), is made up of the Tolkienite Orcs and Tolkienite Trolls. When they were found to actually be a Breed of Elf, the plans were put away, as there was no reason to liberate an Elf (The Orcs actually invented a word that is roughly translated as "Dark Elf" to describe the Tolkienite Orcs), as the Orcish Doctrine had no say on such a thing (The Law about no Orc bowing his head to another, except another Orc was the cause to liberate the Tolkienite Orcs). The Clans respect these Dark Elves enough, and those under the High Orcish tutledge become stronger, smarter, and highly trained. They are actually taught tactics and manuvers that make them competant fighters (no longer throwing themselves en masse at their enemies). In a bout, a single Dark Elf trained from Birth under the Raging Bear incapacitated 5 of those under Melkor's army in a competition using wooden weapons (so as not to be lethal).

The clans do not serve Melkor, nor do they protect him. That's just merely a biproduct of their lust for survival. They see Melkor as an unlikely ally, only to the point that it was his region that they were settled in, which the matter wasn't even their decision to make. They have just made the best out of a bad situation, and ignore his presence or his actions and just try to live day-by-day like any other normal sentient being would. The same goes with Kalessin or Wretchengard or Fyreheart or Raem or Rukemia or Addamous or Kajal or any other nation in the Region. As far as they're concerned, Arda is theirs because they take the best care of it and live on the majority of it (all 13 Clans are spread out all over the region. They don't actually have any land to call theirs. So they live in gathered clans in geographical regions of the continent). This is why Defense is their only true priority, though they are responsible for much of the agriculture, hunting, and livestock production of the region. They've turned Arda into having the top 2500 best looking environments in the world, which is a lot more than I can say than having a 34,000 rank.

You didn't exactly "shoot me down", you just worked out things from your point of view without considering mine. From my point of view, the word was created by Eru and orcs were created by Melkor by corrupting elves. If you're not one of those orcs, then you come from another galaxy, another reality or another world. I can accept any of those reasons, but you can't force me to accept that your history line is right and mine is wrong just because you say so. So, if you're not the traditional orcs for me, neither my elves are the elves of your storyline or your "world", as I tried to convince you in a "friendly" way in my thread...

Yes. Tolkien's world was. You're not in Tolkien's World. You're in Max Barry's. Your Dimension has Changed, so should your views upon it. That was a major point of Riga's rants. He's realized this, and his people have, and if your race is to much smarter to have such a high-tech society, then it makes no sense why you can't realize it as well. There should be a point in your history where your timelines meet and your species crossed over to this realm. It'd made things go a bit more smoothly. The more you ignore the fact that the NS-Universe is not the Tolkien universe, the more you will distance yourself from the reasoning of logic that the Clans are following as they cope with their own interdimensional flux.

Riga said it himself that he knows your kind came from another realm, as did his own; the difference being that he's realized it, and you haven't. He's not trying to shove his history down your throat, but he doesn't give two shits about your own either, because to him, none of it really matters because there's no substantial proof to point it out anymore because you can't go back. He knows you're not Palladium Elves, hence why he's not blaming you for their slavery. He doesn't hate the Sindarin. He could care less about them. He can't know because your Prince over-reacted to something he said and declared them a racial enemy and promised to genocidally eliminate them. However, he didn't at the time.

I could write more (y'all know I can), but I'd be surprised if anyone reads down this far to begin with.

in an unsual message from Senator Orion:

"Meh"

The Wormian Ambassador, glad to see someone else seems to enjoy conserving their glucose for more pertinent international affairs, says instead:

"Bof."

All while cursing himself for wasting the aforementioned glucose by pondering exactly how a perfectly routine vessel commission announcement could have started a mass war, and also pondering exactly how misfits such as this somehow became national leaders...

All while cursing himself for wasting the aforementioned glucose by pondering exactly how a perfectly routine vessel commission announcement could have started a mass war, and also pondering exactly how misfits such as this somehow became national leaders...

OOC:

That's the fun part. Riga's not a national leader. He's not the EnheilRas, nor does he have any lineage to Manus Trebelium. Riga's the leader of the Clan of the Red Blade, that's it. Manus doesn't totally trust Riga because Riga is half-insane with piety.

It's just silly how the 'ShadowPrince' over-reacted. This Riga plays on.

Whilst I do find Orc social order intriguing, I will quickly jump and say that if you fellows were space tech, Wormia would be quick to side with the state High Orcs.

I find it a bit irritating how Elves are somehow glorified as a civilized and refined race, and yet, some of the people that lead them, no less, can be described as no better than warmongers. Wormia will gladly join the independent state of High Orcs to bring an end to a pointless war more quickly.

While Wormia in no way condones the mistreatment and persecution of the Elven race, we will be quick to point out that cold statements such as Aelosia's response are keen to be looked at badly.

-Ambassador Jerraus Kera'th

Meanwhile, the Kajalan ambassador would appear to have arrived a bit... late.

Of course, he was, himself, quite redundant, as the same words would be spoken elsewhere, likely as he spoke them now.

Undeterred by the fact that he was essentially expendable, the ambassador did deliver his initial message, before attempting to stay out of the current... debate. Kajal was currently involved in Martian affairs, after all, which themselves were likely.. soon to become somewhat arduous.

"On behalf of the his Excellency's Imperium, we would like to congratulate Lord Melkor's Imperium on the completion of the construction of the new Skyfurnaces. We hope that they will be a source of pride and success for the Imperium in the coming years."

Coming to the end of his script, the ambassador found himself... improvising.

"After hearing the, erm... declaration by the, uh, ShadowPrince, the Imperium of Kajal officially extends, er... it's support to our allies."

The agent monitoring the ambassador via various small devices implanted in the ambassador's body found himself spraying coffee all over a screen, before cursing. The emperor would have his head!

Or maybe he wouldn't.

"If our ally is declared enemy of the Aelosian people, then the Aelosian people are enemies to his Excellency's Imperium!"

The monitor sighed. The ambassador was just doing his job after all. Never mind that he was a dimwit when it came to doing things that were usually reserved for Ambassador Lume..

But then again, you had to give the newbies a chance, didn't you?

OOC: Note for the record - Kajali look decidedly elven. Their ears would be a little bit larger then your average elf, though, and aheh... they usually possess a brown skin town. ^_^;;;

OOC: Alright, now I'm even more pissed IC, and starting to get pissed OOC, of course. Of course I'll treat Riga as I, IC and OOC, think he is. An imbecile and a total stupid, more rash than even my ShadowPrince, So I'll ignore anything he says just in principle.

Then again. I know I'm not in Tolkien's world, nor in my world. But I'm not inside yours neither. I'm not part of the elves that enslaved your people, I'm not the weak race that you claim to know. I regard you orcs as differet orcs, but I demand the same from you.

Anyway, We'll have war, as any of your complains is not reaching anyone in the Sindarin Empire. Of course, you can assume the orcs in the Craftworld are already dead. But I'll post about the details later, in the other thread, as when I have the link to the war ready, I'll post it here

OOC: Alright, now I'm even more pissed IC, and starting to get pissed OOC, of course. Of course I'll treat Riga as I, IC and OOC, think he is. An imbecile and a total stupid, more rash than even my ShadowPrince, So I'll ignore anything he says just in principle.

Then again. I know I'm not in Tolkien's world, nor in my world. But I'm not inside yours neither. I'm not part of the elves that enslaved your people, I'm not the weak race that you claim to know. I regard you orcs as differet orcs, but I demand the same from you.

Anyway, We'll have war, as any of your complains is not reaching anyone in the Sindarin Empire. Of course, you can assume the orcs in the Craftworld are already dead. But I'll post about the details later, in the other thread, as when I have the link to the war ready, I'll post it here

OOC:

Le sigh...I wish you'd have read the whole message honey. You're saying things I already addressed in it.

Also, you can't take out the people in your party thread for this action, as the party thread takes place before this thread. So you have no IC reason to due to RP time reasons. Dorin is there as back-up in case something nasty happens anyway. That's exactly why he ported himself inside the place.

Unless you do it for OOC reasons, but that'd be bad etiquette. Any further OOC discussion concerning Riga and our relationship should be taken to Instant Messaging (I sent you my SN's), or personal telegrams. This doesn't need to become a circus

[ooc: Knock it off. Both of you. If you don't, so help me god I'll stick my boot so far up your collective arses that the sweat on my knees will quench your thirst. This RP will very soon be directly involving me, and I am in no mood for another bitchfest. I would like to take a couple of days to speak with all parties involved [High Orcs, Aelosia, Kalessin, and teh rest of Arda, mainly] so we can sort out all the unpleasantness before this comes around to showtime. While I can't say I agree with Aelosia's going to war over something like this; I won't be so much of an asshole as to impose on the way her player chooses to play the game.

Just be prepared to pay the consequences :evil: ]

OOC:

First, this can't be after the party, for reasons that you'll see soon.
Second, I don't care if the other orc is Superman, they're all dead.
Third, I'll wait for Melkor until I have made my mind about this.

i have simply one thing to say:

swallow your pride you elven poncy fool.

good bye

So many nations willing to back the Will of One strong enough to oppose the oppressive racial regime your kind and those like you hold above those too cowardly or too idiotic to be free from the fires of the Elven Blanket that covers the world. This is pleasing, pleasing indeed.

--Etorek Brelavudd of the Red Blade.

It is quite amazing how quickly a few words made in complete hatred can really turn the tables in the eyes of the international community. It's very comforting to understand that there's at least a basic level of civility respected and shared amongst all races.

--Zaeth Arali of the High Fist

The Farseer council continued to watch events with great interest, but as of yet, still no word from the Target of their plans. Soon they knew the window would be gone, although preparations continued, weapons systems where being swapped out as more efficent ones for the target where cycled in.

And still they waited, and watched, no official word being given.

The Farseer council continued to watch events with great interest, but as of yet, still no word from the Target of their plans. Soon they knew the window would be gone, although preparations continued, weapons systems where being swapped out as more efficent ones for the target where cycled in.

And still they waited, and watched, no official word being given.

Quite frankly, the whole premise is ridiculous.

Wormia would intervene on behalf of High Orcs if there was any actual combat, simply because of the absolute ludicrousity that would spark a war that could end up in many dead.

OOC:

All regions, to varying degrees, are vulnerable by either land, sea, air (space and atmosphere) and underground attacks. I’m sure there are other ways (such as some form of magic or advanced tech “gate” attacks”) that I haven’t thought of. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Holding territory does require ground troops though. Maybe this is what you mean, High Orcs?

OOC:

All regions, to varying degrees, are vulnerable by either land, sea, air (space and atmosphere) and underground attacks. I’m sure there are other ways (such as some form of magic or advanced tech “gate” attacks”) that I haven’t thought of. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Holding territory does require ground troops though. Maybe this is what you mean, High Orcs?

OOC:

Well...space isn't exactly something the Orcs can defend against. Their technology level is still pre-renaissance... However, all earthly elements (Fire, Air, Water, Ground), they can control to a great extent. They also never leave the continent (No navy. They don't believe in currency, so they really can't 'buy' their way out.) They also don't have their own land. It's a Nation made of 13 Clans (much like the Iroquois), and those clans are spread out and live in OTHER NATIONS in Arda. So even fighting a single clan, you find yourself attacking another nation in Arda, which is doubly so because it adds in all the alliances and whatnot. The High Orcish clans aren't stupid. Just because they don't have the technology doesn't mean they don't have the know-how.

One will find their innovations somewhat lacking in finesse, but altogether an effort put worth in noble and earnest methods, proving both effective and efficient. Arda does indeed have one of the best RPwise regional defenses there are. Every nation watches their coasts, and the majority do have space programs to watch their Orbit. The High Orc Clans know this, so they just watch the skies and the horizon. Defense is the only thing they really ever need to worry about. They let those who can, take care of space, while they are sure to take care of everything else.

OOC:

All regions, to varying degrees, are vulnerable by either land, sea, air (space and atmosphere) and underground attacks. I’m sure there are other ways (such as some form of magic or advanced tech “gate” attacks”) that I haven’t thought of. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Holding territory does require ground troops though. Maybe this is what you mean, High Orcs?

OOC:

Well...space isn't exactly something the Orcs can defend against. Their technology level is still pre-renaissance... However, all earthly elements (Fire, Air, Water, Ground), they can control to a great extent. They also never leave the continent (No navy. They don't believe in currency, so they really can't 'buy' their way out.) They also don't have their own land. It's a Nation made of 13 Clans (much like the Iroquois), and those clans are spread out and live in OTHER NATIONS in Arda. So even fighting a single clan, you find yourself attacking another nation in Arda, which is doubly so because it adds in all the alliances and whatnot. The High Orcish clans aren't stupid. Just because they don't have the technology doesn't mean they don't have the know-how.

One will find their innovations somewhat lacking in finesse, but altogether an effort put worth in noble and earnest methods, proving both effective and efficient. Arda does indeed have one of the best RPwise regional defenses there are. Every nation watches their coasts, and the majority do have space programs to watch their Orbit. The High Orc Clans know this, so they just watch the skies and the horizon. Defense is the only thing they really ever need to worry about. They let those who can, take care of space, while they are sure to take care of everything else.

OOC:

Just because each nation in Arda specializes in a certain area of defense or has perhaps one of the best defenses in the NS universe hardly discredits my earlier remarks. You said


OOC: The only way to reach us is by going on the ground.


while I say that if a nation or nations are perhaps able to penetrate defenses that you are weak in (assuming that the nation that specializes in that area of defense is neutralized), then you would be in a pickle. It goes the same for everyone, I would think.

while I say that if a nation or nations are perhaps able to penetrate defenses that you are weak in (assuming that the nation that specializes in that area of defense is neutralized), then you would be in a pickle. It goes the same for everyone, I would think.

OOC:

Oooh, that's what you were referring too. Hold on, we're both a bit confused. Heh.

What I meant by ground is the almost redundant fact that the only way to exterminate the race was to land in Arda and actually search the clans out. Some actually live in caves in mountains, some have very small, but efficient, fort-like cities. Their main capitol is probably no longer than 10 miles in diameter, yet it would be enough to hold thousands and protect them quite adequately.

If the region's defenses are breached, and there is a major amphibious invasion, the High Orcish force is at it's most dangerous. That's true defense in the Orcish Definition. Keeping people from your land is deterrance. Kicking them the fu|ck out is defense. No one I have seen RP in Nationstates since January '03 has had a defensive strategy like my Orcs do. It's so fearful that I'm glad I haven't actually had to use it yet.

99% of the High Orcs forces are ground-based defensive armies. There are 13 Armies; one per clan (which allows for a greater number as a whole). Each Army is specialized in its own way to act independantly of the other. The only problem they could have is one of logistical methods (they still ride on Dorns [Wolf + Horse]), so it could take a while to get anywhere since they are spread out. Though they're never far from anywhere.

while I say that if a nation or nations are perhaps able to penetrate defenses that you are weak in (assuming that the nation that specializes in that area of defense is neutralized), then you would be in a pickle. It goes the same for everyone, I would think.

OOC:

Oooh, that's what you were referring too. Hold on, we're both a bit confused. Heh.

What I meant by ground is the almost redundant fact that the only way to exterminate the race was to land in Arda and actually search the clans out. Some actually live in caves in mountains, some have very small, but efficient, fort-like cities. Their main capitol is probably no longer than 10 miles in diameter, yet it would be enough to hold thousands and protect them quite adequately.

If the region's defenses are breached, and there is a major amphibious invasion, the High Orcish force is at it's most dangerous. That's true defense in the Orcish Definition. Keeping people from your land is deterrance. Kicking them the fu|ck out is defense. No one I have seen RP in Nationstates since January '03 has had a defensive strategy like my Orcs do. It's so fearful that I'm glad I haven't actually had to use it yet.

99% of the High Orcs forces are ground-based defensive armies. There are 13 Armies; one per clan (which allows for a greater number as a whole). Each Army is specialized in its own way to act independantly of the other. The only problem they could have is one of logistical methods (they still ride on Dorns [Wolf + Horse]), so it could take a while to get anywhere since they are spread out. Though they're never far from anywhere.

OOC: Oh, for sure. To try to kill off a race that is naturally dispersed would be quite hard - especially if that race is allied with powerful nations. Anyhow, good discussion but I don't want to clutter this thread. Sorry.