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EOTED Begins Diplomatic Push For Stability [ATN: ToY Members

Ma-tek
02-04-2004, 07:38
...and yet, although all times are troublesome, it would appear that we have, in recent times, moved into yet more troublesome times than had been previously thought possible.

Endless wars rage across countless miles; and the Empire sits on an ocean of false calm - but we are prepared to walk to whatever Doom awaits. And in that walk we shall find our true natures; for as is often remarked, it is not the destination but the journey in which we 'find ourselves'.

And despite our sluggish movements towards building the promised Era of Stability, movement there is: the response to the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony has been slight, for we have as yet found but one who has the willingness to sign. And yet... and yet we have not yet made our greatest diplomatic push: those times are yet to come. And in these days, we increasingly find ourselves pushed to the background in international - and stellar - politics; yet this is not to our disadvantage.

For in the foreground, amidst the maelstrom of matters too large to comprehend in one whole unit, we cannot hope to understand. And so we watch. And we wait. And as it is said: the darkest hour is before the Dawn. We have had our darkest hour; we have had our Dawn; yet others have not yet seen the crisp golden light of the brilliant Sun rising upon their fortunes.

And so we stand, quietly, and look on. We look on with the intensity of the gaze of the eagle from on high; we look on the with the strength of purpose of the wolf, intent on its prey; and yet our prey is not flesh and blood of war, but the warm embrace of peace. We are hunters, set upon the plains of the world, awaiting our chance to strike - to strike the right chords amongst allies and enemies alike, to begin to usher in the Era that awaits us all, if only we work hard enough, and diligently enough to ensure its birth.

I understand that my words are potentially not only heard by the People of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, but also - potentially - by billions (or trillions?) of Sentients throughout our Solar System, via the INN Solar television, radio, holovision, and trimensional transmission networks. And it is my fervent wish that those who watch and listen do not merely see and hear, but feel and perceive the ardour with which I speak my words.

For there is power in truth; and those who perceive the truth have the power to wield it; and truth is the sword of peace. With truth - and harmony - we can defeat our enemies by leading them to peace, instead of leading them to bitter defeat and endless days of misery.

And, as many are aware, 'stability' and 'harmony' have been the cornerstone of our foreign policy for some time now. It is perhaps open to interpretation as to whether or not we have followed those guiding lights of our hopes and dreams, but we have tried.

But the time for trying is over: it is time to do.

With this in mind, the Diplomatic Corps is, as I speak, dispatching some thirty communiques to the Empires closest allies and most bitter enemies: messages of equal peace and hope...

~ Excerpt from the Grand Address to the People of the Sentient Solar System given by Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II upon the steps of the Prime Entrance to the Imperial Palace, Nenya

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From: Ambassador Nejure, EOTED 1st Ambassador
To: President D'ron, President of the Federation of Sentient Peoples

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, Mister President, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Federated Commonwealth of Sentient Peoples examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Federation putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have, Mister President.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure

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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere

Dear Ally,

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Federation putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Empress Aurora von Sachsausen, Empress of the Teutonic Empire of Lavenrunz

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Teutonic Empire of Lavenrunz examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Empire putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but as the High Lord Commodore the High King Semir-randil I is due to make his visit soon, it would be most auspicious if any questions were directed to His Majesty the High King, Your Higness.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Democratic Dutch Republic putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Requiem of Whispering Voices

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Requiem of Whispering Voices examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Technate of Milesia

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Technate of Milesia examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Technate putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Kionash of Tor Yvresse

Dear Friend,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Kionash of Tor Yvresse examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Kionash putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Sacred Sindarin Empire of Aelosia

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Sacred Sindarin Empire of Aelosia examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Empire putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Armed Imperial Republic of Ruhr

Dear Ally,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Armed Imperial Republic of Ruhr examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Imperial Republic putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure

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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: ALL NATIONS OF THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT

Dear Friends, Allies, Honoured Non-Aligned States,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Triumvirate examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of your members putting their honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty. We note that the founding principals of the Treaty of ASH are largely aligned with the founding principals of the Triumvirate, and that the co-operation of the Triumvirate in building the Alliance would no doubt lend great weight of authority, honour, and dignity to the furtherment of its cause.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure




From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Lord Morgoth AKA Lord Melkor

Lord Morgoth AKA Lord Melkor,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that you examine the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Imperium putting its respected signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure



From: High Lord Ambassador Dejure
To: ALL OPEN DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS

Friends, potential allies, honoured and respected members of the international/stellar community,

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been striving to build a new Alliance (of sorts - it is not an Alliance in the classical sense of the word), named the Alliance of Stability and Harmony, or ASH for short.

We respectfully and humbly request that those who receive this communique read the Treaty of ASH, and we hope for your signature in the Annex of the Treaty.

The Empire would like it to be known that we stand to gain nothing but the pride that hard work can bring; the Treaty does make one concession to the Empire, but it is minor and could easily be altered at any time.

We look forward to hearing from you all,

Yours With Hope and Sincerity,

High Lord Ambassador Dejure



The Treaty of the Alliance of Stability And Harmony (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129727&highlight=)
Vrak
02-04-2004, 07:57
From: High Lord Ambassador Dejure
To: ALL OPEN DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS

Friends, potential allies, honoured and respected members of the international/stellar community,

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been striving to build a new Alliance (of sorts - it is not an Alliance in the classical sense of the word), named the Alliance of Stability and Harmony, or ASH for short.

We respectfully and humbly request that those who receive this communique read the Treaty of ASH, and we hope for your signature in the Annex of the Treaty.

The Empire would like it to be known that we stand to gain nothing but the pride that hard work can bring; the Treaty does make one concession to the Empire, but it is minor and could easily be altered at any time.

We look forward to hearing from you all,

Yours With Hope and Sincerity,

High Lord Ambassador Dejure

The Vrakian response was swift...and terse.

To: EOTED Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: ASH

Words will not necessarily guarantee stability. Actions will. We have send envoys to various summits only to have see them reduced to bickering. How would one more piece of paper be any different? We would like to add that one of our envoys is currently at your facility at Mount Tunmore (OOC: sp?) but so far the results are inconclusive.

We hesitate to keep sending out our diplomatic corps with the results being the same - that of inaction. And yet, we've had to deal with meddlers in the past and continue to do so in the present. We are tired of self-righteous people wanting to interfere in our affairs. We haven't poked our nose into the governance of other nations, and we invite any nation to test that claim. Quite frankly, we grow tired of those who believe it is their business to do so.

We think that fostering relations without necessarily having to commit themselves to yet another useless treaty would yield better results.

Respectfully,

[Personal Seal of the Chief Ambassador]
[Seal of the Vrak Diplomatic Corps]

Ipshi Hagwonak
Chief Ambassador
Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Ma-tek
02-04-2004, 19:01
From: High Lord Ambassador Dejure
To: ALL OPEN DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS

Friends, potential allies, honoured and respected members of the international/stellar community,

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been striving to build a new Alliance (of sorts - it is not an Alliance in the classical sense of the word), named the Alliance of Stability and Harmony, or ASH for short.

We respectfully and humbly request that those who receive this communique read the Treaty of ASH, and we hope for your signature in the Annex of the Treaty.

The Empire would like it to be known that we stand to gain nothing but the pride that hard work can bring; the Treaty does make one concession to the Empire, but it is minor and could easily be altered at any time.

We look forward to hearing from you all,

Yours With Hope and Sincerity,

High Lord Ambassador Dejure

The Vrakian response was swift...and terse.

To: EOTED Diplomats
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: ASH

Words will not necessarily guarantee stability. Actions will. We have send envoys to various summits only to have see them reduced to bickering. How would one more piece of paper be any different? We would like to add that one of our envoys is currently at your facility at Mount Tunmore (OOC: sp?) but so far the results are inconclusive.

We hesitate to keep sending out our diplomatic corps with the results being the same - that of inaction. And yet, we've had to deal with meddlers in the past and continue to do so in the present. We are tired of self-righteous people wanting to interfere in our affairs. We haven't poked our nose into the governance of other nations, and we invite any nation to test that claim. Quite frankly, we grow tired of those who believe it is their business to do so.

We think that fostering relations without necessarily having to commit themselves to yet another useless treaty would yield better results.

Respectfully,

[Personal Seal of the Chief Ambassador]
[Seal of the Vrak Diplomatic Corps]

Ipshi Hagwonak
Chief Ambassador
Vrak Diplomatic Corps

[OOC: Mmkay. A few points here.

1. At the ICEP conference, others bickered with Rihad, but Rihad never actually bickered himself. He stated his case, and that was that. People disagreed, certainly, but I do not recall him actually disagreeing in return, as it were.
2. The Mt. Tumnore Summit is only so bloody slow because a) those involved cannot be arsed to post any faster than 1/3days or so, and b) the forum is so darned terrible most of the time (at least for me, at the time I can get on).]

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From: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
To: Ipshi Hagwonak, Chief Ambassador of the Vrakian Diplomatic Corps

My good sir,

I must note that you have surely not read the Treaty, or you would be aware that we have no interest in interfering in the internal politics of foreign states. This administration never has, in fact, excepting exceptional circumstances where the People of those states have been exceptionally endangered - and there is no other option but to interfere in some manner. Surely the noble defense of a population given no defense by its government is understandable, however.

Yet if the government of Vrak has no intention of taking the Treaty seriously, then I see no need to attempt to respond fully.

Yours,

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
Sakkra
02-04-2004, 20:15
[code:1:6099cc8f08]ToY Comm-Feed
Direct: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
Origin: Guaah Diplomatic Corps,
Offices of Advisor Bosska

Sub: Treaty

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II,

I have brought your proposal before the Emperor and his ministers. They had perused the treaty document for a time, and have rendered a decision.

They will not sign this treaty. The reason being that the Empire is beholden to none. This Article has caused us to decide in this manner.

"Any fully self-governing State, Dominion or Colony not named in the Annex may become a Member of the Alliance if its admission is agreed to by two-thirds of the Assembly, provided that it shall give effective guarantees of its sincere intention to observe its international obligations, and shall accept such regulations as may be prescribed by the Alliance in regard to its military, naval (space and surface) and air forces and armaments. "

We accept no outside regulations in regard to what we develop in our defense. This next clause also does not sit well with us.

"The expenses of the Alliance shall be borne by the Members of the Alliance in the proportion decided by the General Assembly."

And who is this assembly to portion out debt allotments? If there is no universal measure of debt expenditure, this could cause financial woes to weaker members if a majority have a grudge against said member.

In total, we feel the ideals behind this treaty are lofty goals indeed, but will be easily bogged down by innefficient beaurcracy. We prefer an efficient government, such as our own, that will act swiftly if action is needed, rather than having to wait for others to gather about to make a decision.

We will keep this proposal in mind, however.

Advisor Bosska
Guaah diplomatic Corps[/code:1:6099cc8f08]
Ruhr
02-04-2004, 22:05
Representative of the Empire of Eternal Dawn:

Thank you but...ehhh....no.

Humbly yours,

The Armed Imperial Republic of Ruhr

OOC: I'll be leaving NS in a while, plus I don't want to bring down other nations I'm allied to in my big-bang finale. (And I am tired of alliances.)
Ma-tek
02-04-2004, 23:55
[code:1:e3661885a4]ToY Comm-Feed
Direct: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
Origin: Guaah Diplomatic Corps,
Offices of Advisor Bosska

Sub: Treaty

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II,

I have brought your proposal before the Emperor and his ministers. They had perused the treaty document for a time, and have rendered a decision.

They will not sign this treaty. The reason being that the Empire is beholden to none. This Article has caused us to decide in this manner.

"Any fully self-governing State, Dominion or Colony not named in the Annex may become a Member of the Alliance if its admission is agreed to by two-thirds of the Assembly, provided that it shall give effective guarantees of its sincere intention to observe its international obligations, and shall accept such regulations as may be prescribed by the Alliance in regard to its military, naval (space and surface) and air forces and armaments. "

We accept no outside regulations in regard to what we develop in our defense. This next clause also does not sit well with us.

"The expenses of the Alliance shall be borne by the Members of the Alliance in the proportion decided by the General Assembly."

And who is this assembly to portion out debt allotments? If there is no universal measure of debt expenditure, this could cause financial woes to weaker members if a majority have a grudge against said member.

In total, we feel the ideals behind this treaty are lofty goals indeed, but will be easily bogged down by innefficient beaurcracy. We prefer an efficient government, such as our own, that will act swiftly if action is needed, rather than having to wait for others to gather about to make a decision.

We will keep this proposal in mind, however.

Advisor Bosska
Guaah diplomatic Corps[/code:1:e3661885a4]


From: High Lord Ambassador Dejure
To: Advisor Bosska, Guaah Diplomatic Corps, Sakkra

Greetings,

We understand and accept that not all parts of the Treaty can please all of the people all of the time. However, does not the Triumvirate of Yut limit the methodology allowable in warfare - such as the outlawing of orbital bombardment? Or have things changed greatly since the Empire of the Eternal Dawn was a member state of the Triumvirate? Yet I must note that this is the First Draft of the Treaty; alterations could potentially be made before the Treaty is activated.

Your second point, is, of course, absolutely correct. Perhaps an alteration to provide that smaller, less wealthy states are expected to provide less, whereas larger, more wealthy states are expected to provide more would be far fairer and more acceptable to the majority (potentially).

We also understand that beauracracy is a concern - indeed, the partitioning of powers between the Security Council and the General Assembly in a roughly 50-50 arrangement is intended to cut down on the inevitable beauracracy that such a specific Treaty could provoke. However, we have faith that, considering the ideals of the Treaty, the vast majority of those who sign it will be those who wish to see it succeed - and on that basis alone, they will work to prevent beauracracy. Of course, alterations are possible, even once the Treaty is signed - so should the proposed Alliance become bogged down with beauracracy, steps could be taken to 'limit the damage', as it were.

We would like to state, however, that we are greatly pleased that you have not dismissed the proposal out of hand, and extend our gratitidue for your clearly in-depth examination of the Treaty.

With sincere gratitude,

High Lord Ambassador Dejure


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From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Armed Imperial Republic of Ruhr

Dear Friend,

Understood.

Yours,

Ambassador Nejure


[OOC: No problemo - shame to see you go, though, Ruhr. :)]
Vrak
03-04-2004, 01:19
[OOC: Mmkay. A few points here.

1. At the ICEP conference, others bickered with Rihad, but Rihad never actually bickered himself. He stated his case, and that was that. People disagreed, certainly, but I do not recall him actually disagreeing in return, as it were.
2. The Mt. Tumnore Summit is only so bloody slow because a) those involved cannot be arsed to post any faster than 1/3days or so, and b) the forum is so darned terrible most of the time (at least for me, at the time I can get on).]

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From: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
To: Ipshi Hagwonak, Chief Ambassador of the Vrakian Diplomatic Corps

My good sir,

I must note that you have surely not read the Treaty, or you would be aware that we have no interest in interfering in the internal politics of foreign states. This administration never has, in fact, excepting exceptional circumstances where the People of those states have been exceptionally endangered - and there is no other option but to interfere in some manner. Surely the noble defense of a population given no defense by its government is understandable, however.

Yet if the government of Vrak has no intention of taking the Treaty seriously, then I see no need to attempt to respond fully.

Yours,

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

OOC: I'm quite aware of the issues in both cases: 1) Our comments are levelled at how conferences and the such are conducted in general, not necessarily that of EOTED specifically and 2) I know it's frustrating to move a thread along when people aren't posting as often as you would like. I can speak from experience. Still, it would be an IC observation from our point of view. And everyone knows about the forums. :)

IC:

To: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: ASH

Yet, you still feel the need to interfere, no matter how noble. We are quite aware of your record and are most reluctant to enter a treay of "stability" with those such as you. If you believe that this treaty proposal is an attempt to erase past wrongs well, as we said earlier and at the risk of sounding trite, actions speak louder than words.

We invite EOTED to investigate our claim of non-interference. And we didn't have to sign a treaty with every nation to guarantee that. We just follow our beliefs consistently. As well, I should add that you are not necessarily the biggest meddler.

As we mentioned earlier, often informal contact in the beginning is best. Agreements can be broken. Breaking a friendship is often harder. Tell me, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, did you have to sign a peace of paper guaranteeing your behaviour to your friends and family? Or do you just treat them respectfully and with honour?


Respectfully,

[Personal Seal of the Chief Ambassador]
[Seal of the Vrak Diplomatic Corps]

Ipshi Hagwonak
Chief Ambassador
Vrak Diplomatic Corps

OOC: I understand that Rialla may be a special case here but I think you get my meaning.
Kaenei
03-04-2004, 01:43
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The Serene^Union acknowledges reciept of the charter and accounts on the offer of membership to the EOTED founded harmony alliance. The matter will be raised shortly, before the Council of the Aengelistorium. Afterwhich, you shall recieve our final decsion on the matter.

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Melyanna en''tel Isilme
Aengelistorium Dominica
The Most Serene^Union of Kaenei. (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=kaenei)
Ma-tek
03-04-2004, 02:06
From: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
To: Ipshi Hagwonak, Vrak Diplomatic Corps

Dear Chief Ambassador Ipshi Hagnowak,

Actually, Ambassador, I have but three family members: my husband, the High King Semir-randil II, and the former Emperor and High Queen. The rest of my family are long dead - killed at the hands of a brutal rebellion leading to a dictatorship of the few over the many; in fact, I never met them. Yet I point out that it is common practice that, when marrying, one enters into a contract - if a contract is required between two people who love each other, and are agreeing to always love each other, surely a contract between states is equally agreeable?

However, it is not for ourselves that we propose this Treaty and the Alliance in general: it is for others. Although we can speak for ourselves - and our aims, hopes, morals, beliefs, and dreams - we cannot speak for others.

The Treaty of the Alliance is designed to allow a neutral forum for others to bring their disagreements to the table; furthermore, the Alliance is not intended to be a statement of friendship. Indeed, we would hope that our 'enemies' - and we do have several, although we detest the fact that we have not been able to resolve our difficulties as yet - would join the Alliance as well. For nowhere in the Treaty does it state that any two (or more) members must be 'friends' in order to join.

Although we would, of course, hope that those who join the Alliance would find kinship and friendship with all those who sign the Treaty, that is not the aim.

So, in short: we are not asking you to sign because we wish to be friends - although we do indeed wish for friendship with the state of Vrak - we are asking you to sign because the Treaty is a method of extending peace throughout our turbulent Solar System. We acknowledge that the goals of the Treaty are lofty and will be difficult to attain - but we hope for a better future; and to be blunt, Mister Ambassador, we are sick and tired of 'hoping'. We are three cultures who had known nothing but war and moral famine for the past two thousand years, who have finally found peace, harmony, stability and prosperity amongst our selves - and there is, we feel, no greater gift than stability and harmony.

And in our past, speaking of my kind specifically, of Nenyankind - for it is true that we are the driving political force behind the Empire, and that we dominate the Diplomatic Corps and foreign policy in general - we have taken and taken and taken... And now? Now we have discovered the greatness of the gift of giving.

And what we have attained - stability and harmony - we wish to give to all who are willing to accept it.

That is interference, perhaps - but it is the only kind of interference that is right.

In Stability We Trust,

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
Vrak
03-04-2004, 02:18
To: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps

We are aware that various forms of contracts exist in order to govern the behaviour of individuals, communities, and nations. Our basic point is that signing a contract in the beginning involves commitment, and we are reluctant to sign anything with those we are wary of or just don't know. We prefer informal contacts first.

But, we shall consider your words carefully and you may contact our representative at the conference you are holding if you have any further questions. I'm sure he might propose an informal visit to our lands. Perhaps one day. We shall see.

Respectfully,

[Personal Seal of the Chief Ambassador]
[Seal of the Vrak Diplomatic Corps]

Ipshi Hagwonak
Chief Ambassador
Vrak Diplomatic Corps

====

With a sigh, Ipshi finished the letter. He quietly mused to himself, alone his thoughts.
Ma-tek
03-04-2004, 02:19
From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Melyanna en''tel Isilme of Kaenei

Dear Melyanna en''tel Isilme of Kaenei,

Our thanks.

With Hopeful Gratitude,

Ambassador Nejure
imported_Angelus
03-04-2004, 02:27
###BEGIN TRANSMISSION###
~>Route: The Archailect - EOTED:
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I/We have considered this option, and decided against it.

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http://www.silentrequiem.net/angelus/images/littlearchai.jpg (http://www.silentrequiem.net/angelus)
Archai Angelus
Greater Saturnian Archailect

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate/images/trium_insig.gif (http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate/)
[b]Membership: Triumvirate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Deus Ex Machina Consortium
imported_Cetaganda
03-04-2004, 02:48
{Open Communications}
x Lord Theodore Alton (First Speaker, IUoCetaganda)
o Ambassador Nejure (EOTED)

While we agree with many of the principles of the Treaty, I regret that Cetaganda will not be signing it. The Emperor, Council, and Senate have expressed concerns with the integerity of our national sovereignty. In particular, we feel that it would significantly hinder our ability to conduct military operations, especially in support of our current allies; the section on Stellar Law would also pose problems with possible conflicts with imperial and district laws. We share the Sakkrans concerns over dues and uncontrollable beaurcracy as well. As such, we can not possibly sign the treaty.

First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton
State Directorate, Imperial Union of Cetaganda


{Transmission Ends}
Scolopendra
03-04-2004, 02:51
Shall I?

The silver-haired man shakes his head. "No, Bob, just keep reading over that document. We're not going to flub it this time."

Understood.

--<Transmission Type: Standard Diplomatic Communique>--
-<Sender: PseudoEmperor Razak, FSS>-
-<Destination: 1st Ambassador Nejure, EOTED>-
--<Subject: Alliance of Stability and Harmony>--

We are currently looking over the Treaty of the Alliance and are weighing it in regards to our own ideals and interests. I will contact you once my International Relations Advisor finishes his analysis and presents it for my evaluation.

A copy has also been forwarded to the Legislative Unit for their perusal, in case they wish to act upon it; we must warn that the legislature has always been somewhat slower to act than the Executive Unit, as can be expected from its nature.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/julius_razak.gifPseudoEmperor Julius M Razak
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

Personal Postscript: Please forward my apologies to Empress ux-Rihad II for my conduct some time ago; I now understand that my actions were wholly unacceptable and not at all appropriate for a trusted official of any stature, much less mine.

--<End Transmission>--

Kommetrez chuckles. Very good, Julie, you're learning.

"You done yet?"

No, still reading...
Reploid Productions
03-04-2004, 03:19
ALTIMIT Broadcaster
Encryption: Standard
Broadcast type: Diplomatic
To: Ambassador Nejure - EOTED
Return transmission band: Open
IDENT: Tsume Dragonis - Reploid Productions

Various members of the Shogunate representative assembly and higher government have reviewed your proposed treaty and come to a decision after due process and discussion of the subject matter.

I fear I must deliver the message that the Shoguante will not enter into this treaty, for the reasons our fellow Triumvirate nations have already stated, as well as our own reservations. The road to Hell, so they say, is paved with good intentions, and I fear that is the case with this proposal. Our intelligence indicates that transmissions were sent out not just to Triumvirate members, but to nations that have been at odds with one another for years. I fear that trying to bring such groups under one banner will only lead to infighting and plotting, using a treaty for peace instead as a cover or a channel to perpetuate greater acts of war, perhaps through proxy nations that are not signatories of the treaty. If there is a venomous snake on the loose, to put it, I would rather know exactly where I stand with it.

Best of luck,
http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/CGgoods/tsume8.JPG
~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Speaker for,
http://rpstudios.ian-justman.com/junk/furyavatar.jpg
~Firefury Amahira
~Lady Shogun Eternal under the Wings of Chaos
~Immortal Shogunate and Affiliated Territories of Reploid Productions
<End Transmission>
Ma-tek
03-04-2004, 07:52
[OOC: I'll respond to the new responses later on today, at a more sane hour, as I can't actually stay online any longer than this. Firstly: I need sleep. It's nearly 8am here. :wink:

Secondly, for some bizarre reason, I have to come offline at 8am - or else I get charged. I can then come back online at 10am. I have no idea why this is, as, according to my ISP, the time-of-not-being charged at the weekend is from 6pm Friday until 12am Sunday (and, actually, it's until 8am Monday - so they're wrong there, too).

I'll replace this post with replies up to this point, and add another post after whatever replies may come after this post.

Did that make sense?

Anyway, that's another reason not-to-stay-up any longer: I'm not making sense anymore. I know - I don't often make sense anyhow... but now it's worse! Argh! :wink:]
Vrak
03-04-2004, 12:31
[OOC: I'll respond to the new responses later on today, at a more sane hour, as I can't actually stay online any longer than this. Firstly: I need sleep. It's nearly 8am here. :wink:

Secondly, for some bizarre reason, I have to come offline at 8am - or else I get charged. I can then come back online at 10am. I have no idea why this is, as, according to my ISP, the time-of-not-being charged at the weekend is from 6pm Friday until 12am Sunday (and, actually, it's until 8am Monday - so they're wrong there, too).

I'll replace this post with replies up to this point, and add another post after whatever replies may come after this post.

Did that make sense?

Anyway, that's another reason not-to-stay-up any longer: I'm not making sense anymore. I know - I don't often make sense anyhow... but now it's worse! Argh! :wink:]

OOC: Get some sleep. You and your ISP server don't make any sense. :)
Dread Lady Nathicana
04-04-2004, 02:57
To: Ambassador Nejure
From: Minister Ravanelli

Honorable Ambassador,

After much deliberation and in depth consideration and study of the alliance your great nation proposes, it is with regret that we must decline membership at this time.

We find that though the ideals proposed and the intended aims are admirable, that we are already sufficiently covered in our current alliances, and that in joining this third would not further our aims, but would serve to tax our resources, and bind us up in measures that we view as infringing on our sovereign rights.

All the same, we do wish you well in your endeavors, and hope that cordial relations will still be possible, regardless of our non-membership status.

Please send our regards to her Imperial Highness, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad, and to the High King, Semir-randil, and express our thanks for having been invited, and regret that we cannot accept.

http://home.mchsi.com/~ketri/wsb/links/evangelistasm.jpg
--Evangelista Ravanelli
Dominion Minister of Public Relations

Speaking on behalf of Nathicana D'Aquisto, Dread Lady of the Dominion
imported_Sentient Peoples
04-04-2004, 05:09
Office of the Imperial President, Imperial House, Griffin, Commonwealth of Sentient Peoples, FSP

D’ron read through the letter one last time. He had composed it on the computer, typing it out a number of times, through numerous drafts. But the final copy was hand written, on heavy parchment paper. And electronic copy would of course be filed with both governments once he knew that the hardcopy had been delivered, but these things were best done the old way, though it was considerably more expensive.

Not that expenses mattered to a man who ran a nation of over two billion sentient beings. At least, not at this level. He folded the parchment exactly, and slipped it into an equally heavy envelope. Sealed with wax, of all the things, he pressed the Great Seal of the Federation into the still hot fluid, waiting until it set.

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn,

Friend, I send you greetings in this troubled time, and wish that this message finds you and yours well, as I and mine are.

I have read your proposal, and with greater interest than I normally read such, for it was a friend who proposed it, and one of our own who had signed it. It is not the policy of the Federation to join multilateral alliances, but I thought that perhaps this proposal bore merit.

And it did. Too much so, in fact, to ease my doubts. Harmony. Stability. Goals that are lofty in this world. And, though I do not wish it was so, I believe, unlikely for some time to come.

Peace is brought through power, and I am too much afraid that this treaty would limit the power of the State to act as it saw fit. The Federation, and the Empire both have been at this crossroads before, when we were members of the Triumvirate of Yut, and we acted in what we saw as our interests, and the interests of the world. The Federation and the Empire both chose a path apart from that organization, and I am afraid that this would be the same.

Unlike your proposal, the Triumvirate did not prevent us from leaving, having no desire to keep those who did not wish to stay. But your treaty does limit the freedom of action my government would have, that the Federation would have, in much the same way that the Triumvirate Charter did.

I alienated the Triumvirate when I withdrew from that group, and I would not wish to alienate those members of this treaty if similar circumstances required me to withdraw from it, for the sake of my nation.

And so, by the decision of the House of Delegates, the Executive Council, and myself, we shall not sign the treaty at this time. But we will remain watchful, and willingness to change our opinion will always be present.

If, at some point in the future, this proposal succeeds, or nearly so, we will again remember it. We will reconsider, friend, that which we all dream of.

And should the fabric of dreams make way into reality, we will be delighted to join, once the need for freedom of national action diminishes.

As always, we stand ready, as allies and friends, to assist, but we cannot join this Alliance now.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/miniflag.jpg
D'ron Christopher Smith, Imperial President

OOC: Same text in both threads concerned.
Knootoss
04-04-2004, 20:28
Knootoss
04-04-2004, 20:30
To: First Ambassador Nejure
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Hans van Mierlo

Dear Friend,

We have witnessed your bold attempts to start a new alliance with much initial hope. As we consider ourselves close friends to your nation we have considered the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony with a positive attitude. Apart from this we have duly considered the merits and demerits of joining it.

As you may be aware the new Galadriël I administration is still in its early months and there are many tasks asking for our attention at the same time. Therefore it has taken far too much time for your request to be processed by ministry bureaucrats.

We agree with you on the basic ideas of the alliance. Your goals of stability and harmony are lofty. We did, however, have some questions about whether this would be the most opportune way to achieve the ends as stated in the alliance. The idea is good, and we have pleaded for it in the past too, but the time for such an all-encompassing alliance is perhaps not ripe yet. We staunchly stand by your mighty empire, but the international arena does not seem to be unified enough to warrant such a tightly-knit alliance at this time.

Apart from the inherent political difficulties that the Imperial diplomacy might be able to overcome there are some technical and legal difficulties which, in the opinion of many other nations, might prohibit joining. These are mainly concerns of national sovereignty and restrictions on domestic policy. We would humbly suggest a rewording of the treaty so as to be accommodating to a broader scope of nations. Perhaps this initiative could be merged with other current initiatives, such as a rekindling of the Ur Trade Pact or perhaps be embedded in the UN mediation council.

With much Respect,

Minister Hans van Mierlo
Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss
Ma-tek
10-04-2004, 18:14
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Archai Angelus
Greater Saturnian Archailect

Membership: Triumvirate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Deus Ex Machina Consortium


{Routed via TASC-G}
{From: Sarah, #ASI1-01-01-A; Tatya #ASI1-01-02-A}
We understand.

~ Sarah, AIR (Artificial Intelligence Representative) and MLO (Military Liason Officer); Tatya, FDA (Formal Diplomatic Agent) and CRO (Communications Routing Officer)

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

{Open Communications}
x Lord Theodore Alton (First Speaker, IUoCetaganda)
o Ambassador Nejure (EOTED)

While we agree with many of the principles of the Treaty, I regret that Cetaganda will not be signing it. The Emperor, Council, and Senate have expressed concerns with the integerity of our national sovereignty. In particular, we feel that it would significantly hinder our ability to conduct military operations, especially in support of our current allies; the section on Stellar Law would also pose problems with possible conflicts with imperial and district laws. We share the Sakkrans concerns over dues and uncontrollable beaurcracy as well. As such, we can not possibly sign the treaty.

First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton
State Directorate, Imperial Union of Cetaganda


{Transmission Ends}



First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton,

Our thanks for your prompt and exacting response. The Empire will be dispatching a formal response to a number of states en masse very shortly; I apologize if this appears to be rather standoffish, but we feel that rapidity is important at this time.

If it is your preference, the Empire will prepare a personal response to your communique in due time.

Our thanks,

1st EOTED Ambassador Nejure


* * *


ALTIMIT Broadcaster
Encryption: Standard
Broadcast type: Diplomatic
To: Ambassador Nejure - EOTED
Return transmission band: Open
IDENT: Tsume Dragonis - Reploid Productions

Various members of the Shogunate representative assembly and higher government have reviewed your proposed treaty and come to a decision after due process and discussion of the subject matter.

I fear I must deliver the message that the Shoguante will not enter into this treaty, for the reasons our fellow Triumvirate nations have already stated, as well as our own reservations. The road to Hell, so they say, is paved with good intentions, and I fear that is the case with this proposal. Our intelligence indicates that transmissions were sent out not just to Triumvirate members, but to nations that have been at odds with one another for years. I fear that trying to bring such groups under one banner will only lead to infighting and plotting, using a treaty for peace instead as a cover or a channel to perpetuate greater acts of war, perhaps through proxy nations that are not signatories of the treaty. If there is a venomous snake on the loose, to put it, I would rather know exactly where I stand with it.

Best of luck,

~Tsume Dragonis
~Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Speaker for,

~Firefury Amahira
~Lady Shogun Eternal under the Wings of Chaos
~Immortal Shogunate and Affiliated Territories of Reploid Productions
<End Transmission>



From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Firefury Amahira, Lady Shogun Eternal under the Wings of Chaos, Immortal Shogunate and Affiliated Territories of Reploid Productions

Firefury Amahira,

Our gratitude for your explanation of your reasoning; we are in the process of preparing an en masse response to a number of states (yours included) as we feel that rapidity and haste are in order at this time - especially as virtually every single state that has responded has had similar 'complaints' with regards to the Treaty as you yourselves have stated.

We hope that the en masse response is not considered a slight, slur, or insult in any way. If it honours the Shogunate to a greater degree, we are perfectly willing to prepare a personal response to your communique.

With gratitude,

1st EOTED Ambassador Nejure

* * *



To: Ambassador Nejure
From: Minister Ravanelli

Honorable Ambassador,

After much deliberation and in depth consideration and study of the alliance your great nation proposes, it is with regret that we must decline membership at this time.

We find that though the ideals proposed and the intended aims are admirable, that we are already sufficiently covered in our current alliances, and that in joining this third would not further our aims, but would serve to tax our resources, and bind us up in measures that we view as infringing on our sovereign rights.

All the same, we do wish you well in your endeavors, and hope that cordial relations will still be possible, regardless of our non-membership status.

Please send our regards to her Imperial Highness, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad, and to the High King, Semir-randil, and express our thanks for having been invited, and regret that we cannot accept.


--Evangelista Ravanelli
Dominion Minister of Public Relations

Speaking on behalf of Nathicana D'Aquisto, Dread Lady of the Dominion


From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Evangelista Ravanelli, Dominion Minister of Public Relations

Minister Ravanelli,

Our gratitude for your response and regards; the Empress and the High King, likewise, send their regards to the Lady Nathicana, and trust that she continues to enjoy their gifts.

We look forwards to the future, and hope that relations between our two states may be improved at some time in that future.

With friendship,

1st EOTED Ambassador Nejure


* * *


Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn,

Friend, I send you greetings in this troubled time, and wish that this message finds you and yours well, as I and mine are.

I have read your proposal, and with greater interest than I normally read such, for it was a friend who proposed it, and one of our own who had signed it. It is not the policy of the Federation to join multilateral alliances, but I thought that perhaps this proposal bore merit.

And it did. Too much so, in fact, to ease my doubts. Harmony. Stability. Goals that are lofty in this world. And, though I do not wish it was so, I believe, unlikely for some time to come.

Peace is brought through power, and I am too much afraid that this treaty would limit the power of the State to act as it saw fit. The Federation, and the Empire both have been at this crossroads before, when we were members of the Triumvirate of Yut, and we acted in what we saw as our interests, and the interests of the world. The Federation and the Empire both chose a path apart from that organization, and I am afraid that this would be the same.

Unlike your proposal, the Triumvirate did not prevent us from leaving, having no desire to keep those who did not wish to stay. But your treaty does limit the freedom of action my government would have, that the Federation would have, in much the same way that the Triumvirate Charter did.

I alienated the Triumvirate when I withdrew from that group, and I would not wish to alienate those members of this treaty if similar circumstances required me to withdraw from it, for the sake of my nation.

And so, by the decision of the House of Delegates, the Executive Council, and myself, we shall not sign the treaty at this time. But we will remain watchful, and willingness to change our opinion will always be present.

If, at some point in the future, this proposal succeeds, or nearly so, we will again remember it. We will reconsider, friend, that which we all dream of.

And should the fabric of dreams make way into reality, we will be delighted to join, once the need for freedom of national action diminishes.

As always, we stand ready, as allies and friends, to assist, but we cannot join this Alliance now.


D'ron Christopher Smith, Imperial President


From: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
To: Imperial President D'ron Christopher Smith

Dear Friend,

We, too, share your concerns, and fear that the Alliance will not work. However, we feel that the effort to make it work is mandatory - for all of our children. We cannot afford to 'pass the buck' and await others to fulfil our hopes and dreams. But, considering the recent history of the Federation, the Empire understands your position, friend.

We do hope, however, to have our closest friends and most important allies to stand alongside us in the Alliance itself - in the future.

With Gratitude, Friendship, and Understanding,

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II


* * *


From: High Lord Ambassador Dejure
To: First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton, State Directorate, Imperial Union of Cetaganda; Firefury Amahira of Reploid Productions; Minister Ravanelli of the Dominion of Nathicana

First Speaker Lord Theodore Alton; Firefury Amahira; Minister Ravanelli;

The Empire understands all of your concerns and would like to make several small points; it is our understanding that you may or may not concur with our viewpoint, and we do not consider any reaction to our 'small points' contained herein to be any attempt to 'convince' the great states to whom this missive is sent to set upon any paths other than those which their noble governments have already set them upon.

However...

My first point is a simple one: the Treaty lays down the framework for an Alliance that is, in essence, an Alliance in name alone. There is no mention in the Treaty of any actual required co-operation between the Member States of the Alliance, beyond mutual defence (excepting 'internal conflicts' - ie, conflicts between Member States). I will further cover this point in my next point, so I shall move on.

Secondly: the difficulties of 'sovereignty' are, as ever, knotted and gnarly. We do not see any impingement on sovereign rights - unless you consider the prevention of war an abrogation of the sovereign rights of a state; however, if this is so, I must point out that the act of war is an abrogation of the sovereign rights of the defending state, entity, or party. And the defence of the Alliance as a whole - as covered in Article 11, Section 1, Clause 1, Paragraph 1 - is absolutely critical to the structure of the Alliance. Without military and defensive co-operation, the stability of the Alliance would be impossible to uphold - if the goals of the Alliance were to run counter to the goals of another entity, and that entity would decide to act against the Alliance, it could target the principal members (those who work the hardest for the succession of the goals of the Alliance and the Treaty) and slowly erode the diplomatic strength of the Alliance as a whole - with no hope of a legal response from the Alliance as a group.

Furthermore, returning to the abrogation of sovereign rights, I quote directly from the Treaty:

11.1.3 The Members of the Alliance agree without dispute to always seek peace, stability, and harmony before war; however, should the situation merit such extremist action, this Treaty does not abrogate the right of the Member States to apply pressure in the manner best suited to a crisis, so long as all other avenues required by this Treaty have been exhausted.

As this Clause states quite categorically, the Treaty does not prevent any action that is required by any given situation - so long as the Signatory in question agrees to attempt to solve the difficulties (in whatever form they may take) before taking 'extreme action'. I note that this is the goal of any rational, stable government at any rate.

With these statements in mind, the Empire must confess to a certain degree of confusion as to wherein the Treaty lies the abrogations of sovereignty and freedom of response to which the replies from those states to whom this communication is addressed have noted.

However, we again note that this is merely the First Draft of the Treaty - and there is always the potentiality for change.

With gratitude,

High Lord Ambassador Dejure, High Lord of Ax-turath

* * *

To: First Ambassador Nejure
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs Hans van Mierlo

Dear Friend,

We have witnessed your bold attempts to start a new alliance with much initial hope. As we consider ourselves close friends to your nation we have considered the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony with a positive attitude. Apart from this we have duly considered the merits and demerits of joining it.

As you may be aware the new Galadriël I administration is still in its early months and there are many tasks asking for our attention at the same time. Therefore it has taken far too much time for your request to be processed by ministry bureaucrats.

We agree with you on the basic ideas of the alliance. Your goals of stability and harmony are lofty. We did, however, have some questions about whether this would be the most opportune way to achieve the ends as stated in the alliance. The idea is good, and we have pleaded for it in the past too, but the time for such an all-encompassing alliance is perhaps not ripe yet. We staunchly stand by your mighty empire, but the international arena does not seem to be unified enough to warrant such a tightly-knit alliance at this time.

Apart from the inherent political difficulties that the Imperial diplomacy might be able to overcome there are some technical and legal difficulties which, in the opinion of many other nations, might prohibit joining. These are mainly concerns of national sovereignty and restrictions on domestic policy. We would humbly suggest a rewording of the treaty so as to be accommodating to a broader scope of nations. Perhaps this initiative could be merged with other current initiatives, such as a rekindling of the Ur Trade Pact or perhaps be embedded in the UN mediation council.

With much Respect,

Minister Hans van Mierlo
Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss


From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Minister of Foreign Affairs Hans van Mierlo, Knootoss

Dear Friend,

We understand your position, and refer the Knootian government to the responses made to other governments very recently. We will be forwarding a more complete personal response shortly.

With sincerity,

Ambassador Nejure


[OOC: Time is getting on, and I'm not even sure I'll be able to post this yet. So I have to post now. Hence the shortened response to Knootoss. Oops. Sorry, Knoot.]
The Ctan
10-04-2004, 19:03
From: Ambassador Nejure
To: The Kionash of Tor Yvresse

Dear Friend,

The Empire respectfully requests your attention.

As you may or may not be aware, the Empire has been attempting to build a new Alliance - of sorts - for several weeks now. That attempt is now reaching its peak - a peak which will continue for several months or more, depending on the response of the Key Allies of the Empire.

We respectfully request that the Government of the Kionash of Tor Yvresse examines the Treaty of the Alliance of Stability and Harmony and gives serious consideration to the possibility of the Kionash putting its honourable signature to the Annex of the Treaty.

I could indeed go on at length as to the whys and wherefores of the reasoning behind the proposal of the Treaty of the Alliance Stability and Harmony, but I feel it would likely be more productive if you could respond with any questions you may have.

With Respect,

1st Ambassador Nejure


Mephet'ran inwardly sighed, reading the reports on the usual communications interceptions of anything even remotely directed at Tor Yvresse…

“You know, I think I should feel insulted by this stuff… Honestly, it’s most annoying to see people sending things to the Yvressi without bothering to send us copies, it’s not as if we’re hard to contact after all, and we tend to be far more at their level than the Keigh, it’s enough to make one think that people are too stupid to realise the true motives and ends of the Keigh…”

“Yes Sir, it is most distressing,” agreed the young looking woman across the table from him.

“Just who are these Empire of the ‘Eternal’ Dawn anyway?”

“I believe they’re some group that are meant to be extinct, according to your friends in Menelmacar anyway…”

“Most strange, find out more about them…”

“Sir, do you actually plan on joining their alliance?”

“Of course not, but it would have been nice to have been asked…”
Knootoss
10-04-2004, 20:25
((OOC: Understood. ;) ))
Tor Yvresse
11-04-2004, 02:33
First Reply.

The initial response of the Council is currently favourable but, we will need to deliberate more fully on the matter before a final response will be sent. This is simply a message to inform you of the councils current thoughts.


Farseer Council
((Okay truthfully it's a Tag while I think, the Screen is making the treaty very hard to read, and I've been working on My dist recently thats over so now I play catch up))
Scolopendra
11-04-2004, 04:43
--<Transmission Type: Standard Diplomatic Communique>--
-<Sender: PseudoEmperor Julius Razak, FSS>-
-<Destination: Ambassador Nejure, EOTED>-
--<Subject: Alliance treaty>--

After examining the document, we do agree with your ideals. However, the expenditure of taxpayer funds to extranational institutions cannot be authorized directly by the executive unit except during national emergencies. Thus, it has been relegated to the External Affairs Committee of the Legislative Unit to be recommended upon with a concurrent analysis by the People's Money Committee for budgetary feasibility in relation to cost-benefit and how it synchronizes with our domestic budget. After that, the Legislative Unit as a whole will have to decide on it, assuming the EAC and the PMC both agree on its applicability and utility.

Good luck on your endeavour.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/julius_razak.gifPseudoEmperor Julius M Razak
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

--<End Transmission>--
Ma-tek
22-04-2004, 19:13
First Reply.

The initial response of the Council is currently favourable but, we will need to deliberate more fully on the matter before a final response will be sent. This is simply a message to inform you of the councils current thoughts.


Farseer Council
((Okay truthfully it's a Tag while I think, the Screen is making the treaty very hard to read, and I've been working on My dist recently thats over so now I play catch up))



From: Ambassador Nejure
To: Farseer Council, Tor Yvresse

Friends,

We are glad to hear that the Council is considering the Treaty.

Our hopes are with you.

In Stability We Trust,

1st Ambassador Nejure
Ma-tek
22-04-2004, 19:44
--<Transmission Type: Standard Diplomatic Communique>--
-<Sender: PseudoEmperor Julius Razak, FSS>-
-<Destination: Ambassador Nejure, EOTED>-
--<Subject: Alliance treaty>--

After examining the document, we do agree with your ideals. However, the expenditure of taxpayer funds to extranational institutions cannot be authorized directly by the executive unit except during national emergencies. Thus, it has been relegated to the External Affairs Committee of the Legislative Unit to be recommended upon with a concurrent analysis by the People's Money Committee for budgetary feasibility in relation to cost-benefit and how it synchronizes with our domestic budget. After that, the Legislative Unit as a whole will have to decide on it, assuming the EAC and the PMC both agree on its applicability and utility.

Good luck on your endeavour.

PseudoEmperor Julius M Razak
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

--<End Transmission>--


From: Ambassador Nejure
To: PsuedoEmperor Julius M Razak, Executive Officer, Federated Segments of Scolopendra

Friend,

The Empire is not surprised that Scolopendra finds the ideals of the Treaty pleasing; yet still, we are very much pleased that it is so.

We look forward to the final decision by Scolopendra, and issue our thanks for your blessing on our venture.

In Stability We Trust,

Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
Ma-tek
09-05-2004, 02:28
[OOC: Firstly, an apology for my lack of posts to this thread.

Secondly, I think I'd better note that I'm suspending all RPing activity with EOTED until the forum & game move to the new servers; I simply cannot get onto the forum ninety-nine times out of a hundred, and I don't have the time these days to take the time to make the effort. If that makes sense. Anyhow, I'll be returning - with a vengeance - when the shift occurs. Yay or eek, depending on your perspective. ;)]
Knootoss
09-05-2004, 10:50
((OOC: Ok, see ya then!))
Ma-tek
11-05-2004, 19:34
[OOC: As the forum appears to be working on-and-off somewhat, I'll be RPing in a limited fashion. Although... nobody else has posted here ICly since my last IC post, so...]