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OOC: Should I make a space WMD?

Klonor
21-03-2004, 04:50
Okay, by WMD I don't mean a modern day Weapon of Mass Destruction, I mean a space age one. A weapon that, even when compared to gigaton missiles and planet vaporizing lasers, is still huge. My Harbinger Warheads (A 5 gigaton explosion) are amazingly powerful and deadly, but are not a WMD. Their range (several hundred km) is tiny for space. Most ships are hundreds (or thousands) of km apart when they are in combat. Even if used on a planet (which would most likely result in the destruction of the planet), most space nations have more than one planet colonised. So, it's not really capable of 'Mass Destruction' (by mass destruction I mean severe loss of land, resources, and a large % of your population).

In fact, almost no space nations have any real WMD (a few do, but we wont go into that right now). What is massively powerful in ship to ship combat, and powerful compared to modern technology, is insignificant when compared to the extreme size of most space nations.

However, I have an idea for an actiual WMD (It's an idea from a book, like all my stuff. You know, I don't think I've had one original idea my entire time here. All my RP's and technology I've gotten from books, video games, movies, etc.). This is a weapon capable of such massive destruction that even nations spanning several solar systems will be effected, and the use of it in combat will most likely result in the destruction of all ships in the combat area. basically, it's like a future version of todays nuclear arsenal. Unfortunately, I've never really liked the use of WMD's in RP. It cuts them really short and takes out a lot of the strategy in warfare. Also, the threats of "Do that and I'll nuke you!" really do suck (in my opinion).

So, should I develope it?
Atlantian Outcasts
21-03-2004, 04:52
In fact, almost no space nations have any real WMD (a few do, but we wont go into that right now)

heh. I'd be part of that minority :wink:

Anyway, isn't several solar systems a bit much? Hell, destroying ONE system is obseine
Galdania
21-03-2004, 04:54
Galdania's 'space program'is mostly just 'Observation' Satellites.
Steel Butterfly
21-03-2004, 04:54
No, don't make it unless you have a well thought out story behind it, and at the conclusion of the story (RP) it is destroyed. Such weapons are almost always ignored, for they cannot get past being godmods in RP.
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 04:55
What you are talking about is a mini supernova... certainly would be a nasty thing. I'd be willing to help you develop it, on the condition that you never use it against me :P
Klonor
21-03-2004, 04:57
A supernova has nothing to do with it. Are you talking about something else? (I've already got everyhting planned out. The posts RP'ing its development have already been written and the techno babble has all been thought out. I just need a go/no go on building it)
Galdania
21-03-2004, 04:59
I think no. Space nations are...acceptable, at best, but when they waste forum space with 'mini-supernova's', they've gone too far.
Atlantian Outcasts
21-03-2004, 04:59
A supernova has nothing to do with it. Are you talking about something else? (I've already got everyhting planned out. The posts RP'ing its development have already been written and the techno babble has all been thought out. I just need a go/no go on building it)

I say no. The biggest "Doomsday Weapon" is one that will punch a nasty Ozone hole in a planet. What your thinking of is Galactic Armoggedon. NO ONE should be able to destroy whole systems.
Steel Butterfly
21-03-2004, 05:04
I think no. Space nations are...acceptable, at best, but when they waste forum space with 'mini-supernova's', they've gone too far.

Take your ignorance and leave. "space nations are acceptable at best"...bah! I don't see why one would waste their time with the limits imposed by modern-tech! But then again, thats my opinion, and I'm not telling anyone which one of the many ways to play this game. Insulting tech levels different than your's in this way is pathetic. All it comes down to is ignorance.
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:06
SO far there's been 3 'no' votes. Any more? Or anybody voting yes?
Stromata
21-03-2004, 05:06
I dont think its a great idea to b destroying solar systems lol but I am currently constructing something powerfull enough to either destroy a sun or cause it to explode....so fare....luck has not been on our side but this device is create as a last line of defense so should all else fale we can use this....this isnt something im bosting and swinging around sayin "Ill blow ur sun up and ruin ur hole solar system" its just a last line of defense thats all. But i believe destroying an entire solar system is a bit much
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 05:06
We know that the armies of the Red Dragon posess a Planet-Killer weapon, one that works by collecting surrounding and generated energy and heat into a gigantic billow, then "blows" it into a planet, adding energy to the core, causing it to spin faster, and faster, and faster, until it becomes so destabilized that it rips itself apart at the seems.

We are moments away from destroying it... but we will be running a few scans on tis design in the process.
Galdania
21-03-2004, 05:07
I think no. Space nations are...acceptable, at best, but when they waste forum space with 'mini-supernova's', they've gone too far.

Take your ignorance and leave. "space nations are acceptable at best"...bah! I don't see why one would waste their time with the limits imposed by modern-tech! But then again, thats my opinion, and I'm not telling anyone which one of the many ways to play this game. Insulting tech levels different than your's in this way is pathetic. All it comes down to is ignorance.

I did not insult. I simply believe that space tech nations belong in a different game.
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:07
So, is that a 'yes' vote?
Stromata
21-03-2004, 05:08
thats not a bad idea...a future version of nation states...instead of regions you could have solar systems or galaxies....a future ristic version of nations states would be cool if you think about it....it would make thins easier.
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:09
I'm sensing some conversational drift here.......
Stromata
21-03-2004, 05:09
Klonor you got idea and every ones voting no so It wont hurt to say I vote yes on this but please dont use this device on me lol
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:10
SO, three 'no' and one 'yes'. I'm guessing I wont be building this thing anytime soon
Stromata
21-03-2004, 05:10
oh and im apalogiesing for all my spelling mistakes in all my posts lol sry....I dont spell very well lol
CoreWorlds
21-03-2004, 05:15
Oh, yes! Go ahead! We must see how this new WMD works! Personally, I prefer things that suck entire planets into oblivion, like black holes. Mwahahaha! Fear the giant vacuum cleaner! :P :twisted:
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2004, 05:23
*polite cough*
Dessicator :twisted:
http://com3.runboard.com/bnationstatesforum.fmilitaryproducts.t2

Thats just if you happen to decide you dont want to bother making your own.
Very reasonable prices and all that.
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:28
Okay, and how would I use that in a space battle?

If I want to destroy a planet I'll just shoot it with a Harbinger Warhead. Quick and easy.

With this thread I'm talking about something on a whole other level, beyond simply destroying a planet.
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2004, 05:51
Ahhh, wouldnt taking out a system be a slight godmod?
Klonor
21-03-2004, 05:53
1) I never mentioned destroying an entire star system, I just said it's so big that even multi-system nations would be effected

2) No, it wouldn't be godmodding, since people make stars go Nova (in different fashions) all the time (I don't, but there are others who do)