NationStates Jolt Archive

"The Empire of the Eternal Dawn announces that it is seeking to establish trade relations with an additional six states.

"The number is limited to six to allow an appreciable space of time for 'balancing of the books' to prevent trade deficits for the states in question; therefore, any states which would be interested in strengthening relations with the Empire are requested to state their case herein."

~ Ambassador Nejure

OOC: I dunno what our trade relationship status is anymore. Uhm, do you? Of course if we don't have one, I'm sure the new Corporate Federal Conglomerate would be interested.

OOC: I dunno what our trade relationship status is anymore. Uhm, do you? Of course if we don't have one, I'm sure the new Corporate Federal Conglomerate would be interested.

[OOC: Nope, we don't have one. At least, not according to my Big Text File of Trade Relationships.

For the record, those states which have mutual MFN trading status (discounting any with lesser status, of which there are many) with EOTED are (sorry to any I've missed out, I do think there are some more recent ones that I didn't add in yet):

The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere (TCPS)
Federation of Sentient Peoples and Associated Powers (FSP-AP)
Dominion of Whispering Voices
Empire of Lavenrunz
The Ruhrian Empire
Craftworld Tor Yvresse
Vortex Corporation
The Confederation of Milesia
The DDR of Knootoss
The Something of Tahar Joblis]

Ambassador Nejure,
The Guilds are always looking for new trading partners. What exactly it may be beneficial for us to trade we are not sure of, but the Council of Tripolis is certain that we can find something that we have and you want, and vice versa.
The Guilds have access to vast amounts of raw material through our own extensive mining programs as well as trade with third parties. By necessity, we have perhaps the most reliable spaceship, station, and megastructure designs and construction techniques in the solar system, and can provide individual components, essential spacefaring systems, and complete ships, stations, and megastructures. Finally, we are the only known producer of He* and MSMH.

We await your reply,

~Peisenor of Tripolis

To: The Empire of the Eternal Dawn
From: The Everlasting Imperial Bloc of Bajon
"The lands of Bajon are eager to open trade with the EOTED. Being the dominant economic and military power on Mars, Bajon is the best choice for a safe and secure market. We have never had relations with the EOTED, but it is our desire to change that now. However, before we officially commit, I ask what benefits Bajon will gain from such an agreement."
-Lady Azura, High Queen of Bajon

Ambassador Dejure

It is with pleasure the Corporate Federal Conglomerate greets the EOTED. For too long, our two nations have been restricted in trade, and the obvious benefits therein, due to the unfortunate political restrictions placed upon our policymaking by the former PrattCo Conglomerate. We would like to change that status by re-establishing full trade relations.

I need not iterate the potential market benefits. Santa Barbaran exchange and interest rates are at an all-time low, our mining and manufacturing sectors are unparalleled throughout the universe (and are only getting stronger through exploitation of various Sol system assets of ours), and though I am sure others may try to seduce you with promises of investment security through military force, and though that crude measure is perhaps unimportant in the scheme of things, Santa Barbara is likely the only one which can fully deliver on such a promise.

Moreover, I am fully confident that by strenghtening our relations, we may be able to share certain items and technologies of great strategic value.

Ambassador [Toby Pratt]

"How will this affect Knootian trade with the Empire?"
~Question asked by a representative from the ministry of Economic Affairs during an informal meeting.

The Confederacy of New Proletarianism is intrigued by this offer. We are in desperate need of economic assistance after the collapse of the 800 million strong Proletarian Revolution. We are a much smaller state not only in numbers but in economic strength and we believe that a trade of resources would be beneficial to us.

We are looking for supplies of Steel and Petrochemicals to boost our new heavy industrial program and we can offer grain and other foodstuffs in exchange. We are hoping to keep our economy afloat by moving into these new economic areas.

Out of common courtesy, we are willing to show you the Proletarian Manifesto; a short and concise guide to Proletarian doctrine.



Proletarianism is not the same as Communism

Communism is an unworkable system. Proletarianism seeks the emancipation of the working class through prosperity rather than through arms and revolutions. We seek peace and coexistance rather than war and death.

Citizens of the Proletariat all vote for the government, a compulsory system to accurately approximate the will of the people. They also vote on the most important issues.

Citizens of the Proletariat may own factories as a normal capitalist would. Remaining profit; after a tax deduction and expenses, is divided equally amongst the workers. The owners benefit would be a title, 'Honoured Citizen' which all the other citizens must respect and show courtesy to. Class differences are removed by the absence of a wage difference. The only difference would be that they would have gained honour, prestige and respect.

Economically, we see the system as viable. The whole of society will be consumers, buying the products of the other factories and guaranteeing that their is always a supply. Competition is regulated however by the government to avoid destroying businesses through out-competitiveness.
The unemployed get a wage, but that is enough to sustain them until they get a job.
The lazy and unproductive, designated by the local efficiency supervisor have their share of the profit; their wage cut accordingly.
The unfortunate disabled are given an average societal wage.

Healthcare and education are to be funded by the government and are to be given priority in the new order. The military are also funded by the government.
All government employees who perform well are given their titles.

We believe that once we can move the system to a state of prosperous economic production; we can begin exporting our ideas into the world through peaceful diplomatic, political and social means rather than through the imperialist and greedy methods of Capitalist and Communist nations. Both sides are regarded with suspicion but we still treat them with respect.

Citizen Manfred


Citizen Manfred
High Chancellor
The Confederacy of New Proletarianism

"Proletarianism with a human face!"

Ambassador Dejure

It is with pleasure the Corporate Federal Conglomerate greets the EOTED. For too long, our two nations have been restricted in trade, and the obvious benefits therein, due to the unfortunate political restrictions placed upon our policymaking by the former PrattCo Conglomerate. We would like to change that status by re-establishing full trade relations.

I need not iterate the potential market benefits. Santa Barbaran exchange and interest rates are at an all-time low, our mining and manufacturing sectors are unparalleled throughout the universe (and are only getting stronger through exploitation of various Sol system assets of ours), and though I am sure others may try to seduce you with promises of investment security through military force, and though that crude measure is perhaps unimportant in the scheme of things, Santa Barbara is likely the only one which can fully deliver on such a promise.

Moreover, I am fully confident that by strenghtening our relations, we may be able to share certain items and technologies of great strategic value.

Ambassador [Toby Pratt]

"Ambassador T. Pratt,

"The Empire does not require military protection of freighters and such, although the reduction in cost possible via having trading partners that can protect their own goods to a decent extent is indeed attractive.

"However, I digress from the primary points I wish to make.

"Firstly, the Empire is more than willing to establish proper trading relations with Santa Barbara. However, we will need certain details... such as the exact goods that Santa Barbara can offer, and what level of trading Santa Barbara is willing to partake in with the Empire. It is essential to all of our trading partners to ensure the best possible balance in trade... therefore, and, as we are aware of the strength of the Santa Barbaran markets, we need to be certain that 'quick' granting of the highest trading status to Santa Barbara will not have a negative effect on our... ahem... dependant economies. We are sure that such language should not (and will not?) be spread around: we doubt that the 'dependant' economies in question would be much pleased at being referred to as such. We merely mean that any negative effect on our economy is almost certain to be felt by our primary trading partners, of course.

"In essence, we warn that we may feel it necessary to alter trading status gently, in 'baby steps'. However, we feel certain that the eventual result will be the granting of Most Favoured Nation trading status to Santa Barbara.

"Lastly, the ITC will shortly be releasing revised import/export/production details to the public domain. We hope that that information will prove useful."

~ Ambassador Dejure




To: The Empire of the Eternal Dawn
From: The Everlasting Imperial Bloc of Bajon
"The lands of Bajon are eager to open trade with the EOTED. Being the dominant economic and military power on Mars, Bajon is the best choice for a safe and secure market. We have never had relations with the EOTED, but it is our desire to change that now. However, before we officially commit, I ask what benefits Bajon will gain from such an agreement."
-Lady Azura, High Queen of Bajon

{Diplomatic Communique}
{To: Bajon
{From: EOTED (Imperial Trade Conglomerate, Imperial Executice Council, Imperial Economic Court joint response via Imperial Diplomatic Corps)}
{Subject: RE: Trade Relations}

"We rather doubt your claim to be the dominant economic and military power on Mars (we are quite certain that our old 'friend' Ravenspire would contest that claim), but that is neither here nor there.

"We have been interested in expanding into the Martian markets for quite some time - ever since the completion of the Earth-Mars Highway, in fact.

"Benefits? Well, well. A clear benefit would be the ability to import critical goods cheaply - via the Earth-Mars Highway, for one. Incidentally, IsnCo (the Imperial Space Networking Co-Operative) is looking for investment for expansion of their planned 'Stellar Mass Transit Network'...

"But to the point. The Empire can provide numerous goods; the Empire is rich in primary, secondary, and tertiary resources, being able to provide both refined and unrefined metals. A public list of current exports/imports/productivity will be published shortly.

"To be blunt, Your Majesty, the Empire is a potentially powerful economic ally. We fail to see any required 'benefits' beyond that... but if you have specific questions, Your Majesty, please feel free to direct them to the Diplomatic Corps.

"In friendship,

Ambassador Nejure"

* * *

Ambassador Nejure,
The Guilds are always looking for new trading partners. What exactly it may be beneficial for us to trade we are not sure of, but the Council of Tripolis is certain that we can find something that we have and you want, and vice versa.
The Guilds have access to vast amounts of raw material through our own extensive mining programs as well as trade with third parties. By necessity, we have perhaps the most reliable spaceship, station, and megastructure designs and construction techniques in the solar system, and can provide individual components, essential spacefaring systems, and complete ships, stations, and megastructures. Finally, we are the only known producer of He* and MSMH.

We await your reply,

~Peisenor of Tripolis

"The Empire is primarily interested in the cheap import of yttrium, magnetite, and iron, as far as primary resources go. Especially yttrium (also sometimes known as ysidium, I believe). Luxury goods are in exceptional demand of late, due to the loss of an unnamed primary trading partner. Also in demand are telecommunication devices - the handheld mobile variety. Generally speaking, however, secondary resources are not in demand in the Empire; we tend to produce what we need.

"Export and import lists will be provided shortly by the Imperial Trade Conglomerate."

~ Ambassador Nejure

* * *

The Confederacy of New Proletarianism is intrigued by this offer. We are in desperate need of economic assistance after the collapse of the 800 million strong Proletarian Revolution. We are a much smaller state not only in numbers but in economic strength and we believe that a trade of resources would be beneficial to us.

We are looking for supplies of Steel and Petrochemicals to boost our new heavy industrial program and we can offer grain and other foodstuffs in exchange. We are hoping to keep our economy afloat by moving into these new economic areas.

Out of common courtesy, we are willing to show you the Proletarian Manifesto; a short and concise guide to Proletarian doctrine.<snip>

"The Empire is willing and capable to offer special discounts on import tariffs to struggling economies, and, indeed, we may be willing to provide economic/humanitarian aid assistance.

"However, your mention of a recent shift in government will most certainly make certain elements of our government somewhat nervous. We may not be able to offer MFN status immediately due to this; we prefer to reserve such status to stable states and entities, for obvious reasons relating to the economic stability of ourselves and our allies.

"Yet I can state with certainty that the Empire is indeed interested in establishing trade

"Perhaps, if the New Proletarian government is willing, even establishing EOTED economic interests inside the Confederacy of New Proletarianism may be possible - we are hasty to point out that we are not a capitalist state, but a socio-capitalist state. Although our system of economy is perhaps slightly more removed from socialism than yours is, we are, in essence, a socialist planned macro-economy (the so-called micro-economics of the system remain potentially 'unplanned'); we would not make any effort to 'subvert' or 'dominate' your economy with our corporate interests. Rather, we would attempt to gain what is referred to as 'social profit' - that is, the largest gain for the largest number of people. Naturally, this would involve ensuring the highest rate of local employment as possible.

"Of course, those are all potentially long-term aims and goals. Returning to trade: the Imperial Trade Conglomerate is shortly to publish details on the Empire's trading exports/imports and our largest manufacturing industries; we trust that that information will be useful.

"Unfortunately, however, we have little need for the import of foodstuffs - except 'luxury foods'. We produce all the food we need, I'm afraid. Of course, the definition of 'luxury food' is a loose one - and so, your local delicacies would most likely be consided 'luxuries' in the Empire.

"We are sure an equitable arrangement can be decided upon, and we look forward to discussing the potentials of trade between our two states."

~ Ambassador Nejure

* * *

"How will this affect Knootian trade with the Empire?"
~Question asked by a representative from the ministry of Economic Affairs during an informal meeting.

"It will likely have a positive effect, actually, as, with a larger number of trading partners, we will be able to level out the marginal swinging-deficit that has been so problematic in recent times." ~ Informal answer by a member of the Imperial Trade Conglomerate Board of Control


* * *

MI cars, energy production units, communications related commodoties, luxury goods (largely clothing), refined oil, refined metals (inc. molybdenum, aluminium, and copper), various unrefined ores

machinery and equipment, plastics, chemicals, raw materials (mostly iron, yttrium, and magnetite), luxury goods, communications related commodoties, luxury food

MI automobiles, metallurgical industries, general machine construction, textiles, various agricultural, chemical, medical, infant-niche, food processing, IT-related, telecommunications, orbital assets, consumer electronics, military electronics, military equipment, various space-based industry, other 'high-tech associated' industry

The New Proletarian government is very willing for you to establish your economic interests in our country as long as you adhere to certain stipulations. We are by no means totally against Corporations as long as they obey certain aspects of our economic plan. We do not wish of course to turn our nation into a sweatshop.

1)Any profit that the Empire wishes to extract from the business shall be automatically categorized as an business expense and will not be classified under the surviving profit that is distributed equally amongst the Proletarian workforce within the business.

2) A Proletarian Government Efficiency Supervisor will be on hand to evaluate the employees to ensure fair distribution of profit.

3) This Efficiency Supervisor will also maintain a close eye on an individual business's books to ensure that our regulations are in compliance.

We look forward to doing business with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn if our conditions are accepted.

Coincidently, the EOTED need not worry about political instability. We have no real instability for we are currently a stable nation. What was meant by recently was in effect 5 years in the past and we have made great strides to perfect the defence our national systems.


Citizen Manfred
High Chancellor
The Confederacy of New Proletarianism

"Proletarianism with a human face!"

"Ambassador T. Pratt,

"The Empire does not require military protection of freighters and such, although the reduction in cost possible via having trading partners that can protect their own goods to a decent extent is indeed attractive.

"However, I digress from the primary points I wish to make.

"Firstly, the Empire is more than willing to establish proper trading relations with Santa Barbara. However, we will need certain details... such as the exact goods that Santa Barbara can offer, and what level of trading Santa Barbara is willing to partake in with the Empire. It is essential to all of our trading partners to ensure the best possible balance in trade... therefore, and, as we are aware of the strength of the Santa Barbaran markets, we need to be certain that 'quick' granting of the highest trading status to Santa Barbara will not have a negative effect on our... ahem... dependant economies. We are sure that such language should not (and will not?) be spread around: we doubt that the 'dependant' economies in question would be much pleased at being referred to as such. We merely mean that any negative effect on our economy is almost certain to be felt by our primary trading partners, of course.

"In essence, we warn that we may feel it necessary to alter trading status gently, in 'baby steps'. However, we feel certain that the eventual result will be the granting of Most Favoured Nation trading status to Santa Barbara.

"Lastly, the ITC will shortly be releasing revised import/export/production details to the public domain. We hope that that information will prove useful."

~ Ambassador Dejure

Ambassador Dejure,

Your information has proven most helpful, as with the forthrightness of your responses. Indeed, there is always risk when opening the market to new parties, but one, I daresay, Santa Barbara is willing to take.

To answer your first question, I admit that a comprehensive list of all goods and services that our private businesses are willing to export would be prohibitively large for inclusion herein. Secondly, I must add that all trade between our nations must be regulated by the market itself; the CoFedCo does not attempt to exert control over all sales. As a national conglomerate of megacorps, to prevent conflict of interest, we cannot recommend any specific megacorps or their products.

However, the data shows our top exports by quantity, in no particular order, are material resources (petrol, uranium, iron, steel, bauxite, genuine lumber) both raw and refined; industrial machinery and components, consumer/retail goods. I will include several commercially available catelogues of major suppliers, and I am certain that you can find all you need.

Of course, any financial transactions between your government and our corporations will be secured by CoFedCo, but brokered individually. We will then open the market to EOTED goods to compete fairly with our own.

Understand that while we are loathe to execute market restrictions, we will be able to limit types and/or qualities of products we allow into the country and vice versa, to honor your request for, as you say, baby steps.

Ambassador [Toby Pratt]

The New Proletarian government is very willing for you to establish your economic interests in our country as long as you adhere to certain stipulations. We are by no means totally against Corporations as long as they obey certain aspects of our economic plan. We do not wish of course to turn our nation into a sweatshop.

1)Any profit that the Empire wishes to extract from the business shall be automatically categorized as an business expense and will not be classified under the surviving profit that is distributed equally amongst the Proletarian workforce within the business.

2) A Proletarian Government Efficiency Supervisor will be on hand to evaluate the employees to ensure fair distribution of profit.

3) This Efficiency Supervisor will also maintain a close eye on an individual business's books to ensure that our regulations are in compliance.

We look forward to doing business with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn if our conditions are accepted.

Coincidently, the EOTED need not worry about political instability. We have no real instability for we are currently a stable nation. What was meant by recently was in effect 5 years in the past and we have made great strides to perfect the defence our national systems.


Citizen Manfred
High Chancellor
The Confederacy of New Proletarianism

"Proletarianism with a human face!"


These are all acceptable terms; indeed, we strongly suspect that the Confederacy of New Proletarianism employs a rather similar economic system to us, making us ideological 'brothers' (or 'sisters') of sorts.

We would be more than happy, pending Imperial Economic Court analysis for final and non-temporary allocation, to grant the Confederacy of New Proletarianism Temporary Most Favoured Nation Trading Status (TMFN Status).

~ Ambassador Nejure

"Ambassador T. Pratt,

"The Empire does not require military protection of freighters and such, although the reduction in cost possible via having trading partners that can protect their own goods to a decent extent is indeed attractive.

"However, I digress from the primary points I wish to make.

"Firstly, the Empire is more than willing to establish proper trading relations with Santa Barbara. However, we will need certain details... such as the exact goods that Santa Barbara can offer, and what level of trading Santa Barbara is willing to partake in with the Empire. It is essential to all of our trading partners to ensure the best possible balance in trade... therefore, and, as we are aware of the strength of the Santa Barbaran markets, we need to be certain that 'quick' granting of the highest trading status to Santa Barbara will not have a negative effect on our... ahem... dependant economies. We are sure that such language should not (and will not?) be spread around: we doubt that the 'dependant' economies in question would be much pleased at being referred to as such. We merely mean that any negative effect on our economy is almost certain to be felt by our primary trading partners, of course.

"In essence, we warn that we may feel it necessary to alter trading status gently, in 'baby steps'. However, we feel certain that the eventual result will be the granting of Most Favoured Nation trading status to Santa Barbara.

"Lastly, the ITC will shortly be releasing revised import/export/production details to the public domain. We hope that that information will prove useful."

~ Ambassador Dejure

Ambassador Dejure,

Your information has proven most helpful, as with the forthrightness of your responses. Indeed, there is always risk when opening the market to new parties, but one, I daresay, Santa Barbara is willing to take.

To answer your first question, I admit that a comprehensive list of all goods and services that our private businesses are willing to export would be prohibitively large for inclusion herein. Secondly, I must add that all trade between our nations must be regulated by the market itself; the CoFedCo does not attempt to exert control over all sales. As a national conglomerate of megacorps, to prevent conflict of interest, we cannot recommend any specific megacorps or their products.

However, the data shows our top exports by quantity, in no particular order, are material resources (petrol, uranium, iron, steel, bauxite, genuine lumber) both raw and refined; industrial machinery and components, consumer/retail goods. I will include several commercially available catelogues of major suppliers, and I am certain that you can find all you need.

Of course, any financial transactions between your government and our corporations will be secured by CoFedCo, but brokered individually. We will then open the market to EOTED goods to compete fairly with our own.

Understand that while we are loathe to execute market restrictions, we will be able to limit types and/or qualities of products we allow into the country and vice versa, to honor your request for, as you say, baby steps.

Ambassador [Toby Pratt]

Following a court case in the Imperial Economic Court and a long debate in Citizens House and amongst the members of the Imperial Executive Council, it has been decided that Santa Barbara can be granted full MFN status immediately.

We apologize for the delay; there has been a major backlog of matters for HMI Government to deal with of late.

We look forward to doing business with Santa Barbara, and are certain that the future holds much promise for this new partnership.

In stability we trust,

~ Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

"The Empire is primarily interested in the cheap import of yttrium, magnetite, and iron, as far as primary resources go. Especially yttrium (also sometimes known as ysidium, I believe). Luxury goods are in exceptional demand of late, due to the loss of an unnamed primary trading partner. Also in demand are telecommunication devices - the handheld mobile variety. Generally speaking, however, secondary resources are not in demand in the Empire; we tend to produce what we need.

"Export and import lists will be provided shortly by the Imperial Trade Conglomerate."

~ Ambassador Nejure
While magnetite can be hard to come by, iron and yttrium can be provided quite easily. In the way of communications devices, we produce a cheap intraship communication system that could be easily converted for general planetary use.
We see that agriculture and food processing are among your primary industries. We would be very interested in trading for animal products.

Finally, if we are able to work out a deal, perhaps you would be interested in establishing an embassy on our newest station? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134578)
~Peisenor of Tripolis

the PRKS seeks to open economic trade with your nation. Even though we are a military autocratic/democratic state, we seek advancement on our economy. Lately we have found oil reserves along the Cay Son Gulf and currently lack facilities to use it to it's fullest capabilites. If you could assist us in such matters, the Junta would decrease tariffs by 51% on any goods stemming from your nation.

"The Empire is primarily interested in the cheap import of yttrium, magnetite, and iron, as far as primary resources go. Especially yttrium (also sometimes known as ysidium, I believe). Luxury goods are in exceptional demand of late, due to the loss of an unnamed primary trading partner. Also in demand are telecommunication devices - the handheld mobile variety. Generally speaking, however, secondary resources are not in demand in the Empire; we tend to produce what we need.

"Export and import lists will be provided shortly by the Imperial Trade Conglomerate."

~ Ambassador Nejure
While magnetite can be hard to come by, iron and yttrium can be provided quite easily. In the way of communications devices, we produce a cheap intraship communication system that could be easily converted for general planetary use.
We see that agriculture and food processing are among your primary industries. We would be very interested in trading for animal products.

Finally, if we are able to work out a deal, perhaps you would be interested in establishing an embassy on our newest station? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134578)
~Peisenor of Tripolis

We do not have a large quantity of agricultural products available, as it takes quite a vast foodstock to feed two billion people adequately. However, there is always a surplus, and we are sure the Imperial Food Organisation would be interested in selling the surplus to Space Guilds-based industry.

Unfortunately, the Empire does not see the value in the building of embassies, as such. Instead, we prefer to exchange a trimensional communication unit, along with a provided secret comm frequency - and an assigned CommOps officer to monitor that frequency at all times, to divert any communications to the correct person in the Diplomatic Corps hierarchy.

I'm certain that the actual economic assets in question will carry out all actual negotiations, but I can state with certainty that the IDF will be most interested in setting up a constant supply of yttrium. Yttrium is used in a number of our military systems - the exact applications are unimportant - and so we do require rather larger quantities than might be considered 'normal'. We are interested to discover what sort of pricing range would be available?

~ Ambassador Nejure

the PRKS seeks to open economic trade with your nation. Even though we are a military autocratic/democratic state, we seek advancement on our economy. Lately we have found oil reserves along the Cay Son Gulf and currently lack facilities to use it to it's fullest capabilites. If you could assist us in such matters, the Junta would decrease tariffs by 51% on any goods stemming from your nation.

The Empire does not have an active policy of supporting foreign oil exploitations, but perhaps a waiver could be arranged - at the right price, of course.

And I must note that Imperial Energy Corporation has extensive experience with extracting oil with the highest priority placed on ecological concerns - although I am sure that if this is not the policy in Kay Son, the IEC could likely easily make the adaptation.

However...

I do believe you said 'Junta'. Is Kay Son controlled by a military junta, therefore? This would be important as to whether or not high-end trade would be possible: if Kay Son is a militarized junta-controlled state, we would not be able to enact trading operations beyond the Regulated level.

~ Ambassador Nejure

The Junta is a government body that is both military and civilian staffed, as regulated by the Kanabian Treaty. Although this looked upon by most military officers of the PLA, it has been accepted for the good of the nation as well as economy. As for the matter in dealing with the IEC, perhaps we could allow a domain within the city of Kay Son to be reserved for the IEC's headquarters in the PRKS. This domain would be respected as both IEC property and Ma-Tek sovereign soil. We of course, would share about half the profits with a quarter to the IEC and a quarter to your nation.

The Junta is a government body that is both military and civilian staffed, as regulated by the Kanabian Treaty. Although this looked upon by most military officers of the PLA, it has been accepted for the good of the nation as well as economy. As for the matter in dealing with the IEC, perhaps we could allow a domain within the city of Kay Son to be reserved for the IEC's headquarters in the PRKS. This domain would be respected as both IEC property and Ma-Tek sovereign soil. We of course, would share about half the profits with a quarter to the IEC and a quarter to your nation.

I'm certain that the IEC would find such an agreement most equitable, but the Empire - directly - does not enjoy profits from the exploitation of oil. Perhaps 'our quarter' could be diverted to good causes in Kay Son?

~ Ambassador Nejure

The New Proletarian government is very willing for you to establish your economic interests in our country as long as you adhere to certain stipulations. We are by no means totally against Corporations as long as they obey certain aspects of our economic plan. We do not wish of course to turn our nation into a sweatshop.

1)Any profit that the Empire wishes to extract from the business shall be automatically categorized as an business expense and will not be classified under the surviving profit that is distributed equally amongst the Proletarian workforce within the business.

2) A Proletarian Government Efficiency Supervisor will be on hand to evaluate the employees to ensure fair distribution of profit.

3) This Efficiency Supervisor will also maintain a close eye on an individual business's books to ensure that our regulations are in compliance.

We look forward to doing business with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn if our conditions are accepted.

Coincidently, the EOTED need not worry about political instability. We have no real instability for we are currently a stable nation. What was meant by recently was in effect 5 years in the past and we have made great strides to perfect the defence our national systems.


Citizen Manfred
High Chancellor
The Confederacy of New Proletarianism

"Proletarianism with a human face!"


These are all acceptable terms; indeed, we strongly suspect that the Confederacy of New Proletarianism employs a rather similar economic system to us, making us ideological 'brothers' (or 'sisters') of sorts.

We would be more than happy, pending Imperial Economic Court analysis for final and non-temporary allocation, to grant the Confederacy of New Proletarianism Temporary Most Favoured Nation Trading Status (TMFN Status).

~ Ambassador Nejure

The Imperial Economic Court has issued a decree stating that the Confederacy of New Proletarianism is a safe and sound business venture for the economic assets of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, and has thusly granted that Confederation Most Favoured Trading Status, with all the benefits therein.

~ Imperial Economic Court Chief Justice, the Right Honourable Lady Emmen Dejure

Tagged. Still waiting on the ourcome of the ICEP.

If you prefer a remote presence, that can be accomodated as well as a standard embassy. The average price for Yttrium Oxide runs at 3 centiounces platinum per kilogram. For pure Yttrium metal, the price is somewhat higher at 14 centiounces per kilogram. Even lower prices might be arranged for bulk sales.

~Peisenor of Tripolis

(For reference: 3 centiounces ~= $11.16, 14 centiounces ~= $52.08.)

If there's not only six already.....

We are very interested by your plans to increase trade. As we are currently trying to increase our own trade relations, we would be very interested in establishing trade relations with you.

What we have to offer:

LRR specializes in shipbuilding and shipping. Our shipyards are some of the best in the galaxy, and can build almost any project. LRR freighters are fast and reliable, and can get your goods on the market quickly and cheaply.

Composite materials construction is also a big industry in LRR, as is asteroid mining. Materials combining resin with nitinol and other elements produce high armor protection from radiation and weapons. LRR mining crews are very good. While the LRRSF is admittedly not the best, we have excellent mining and construction facilities.

You would also gain access to LRR technologies, such as LRR long-range high-speed hyperspace drives and our excellent PD and shielding technologies.

Also, you will become aware of all major scientific discoveries made by LRR explorers. (Such as the Karos ship graveyard). The LRRIT archaeology, exobiology, astronomy, and geology teams will be at your disposal.

The Free Land of New Proletarianism is pleased to be granted a full trade status with the EOTED. Trade may commence at once. May our economies blossom in the spring of good relations.

Citizen Manfred
High Chancellor
The Free Land of New Proletarianism

"Proletarianism with a human face!"

To EOTED:
"If you would have it then, we are happy to join into a trade agreement. I apologize for the wait. New territories on Mars have taken a great deal of the government's attention."
-Underking Nerevar

To EOTED:
"If you would have it then, we are happy to join into a trade agreement. I apologize for the wait. New territories on Mars have taken a great deal of the government's attention."
-Underking Nerevar

"We have an Ambassador en route to Mars."

~ 1st Ambassador Nejure of the Illuvauromeni Commonality of Everlasting Light

If you prefer a remote presence, that can be accomodated as well as a standard embassy. The average price for Yttrium Oxide runs at 3 centiounces platinum per kilogram. For pure Yttrium metal, the price is somewhat higher at 14 centiounces per kilogram. Even lower prices might be arranged for bulk sales.

~Peisenor of Tripolis

(For reference: 3 centiounces ~= $11.16, 14 centiounces ~= $52.08.)


"Hmmm. We prefer a remote presence; we do not feel the need to be somewhere - to be understood there will suffice, you see.

"That price is higher than the average gained from the previously preferred choice of our industry and military, I'm afraid. However, we also have need of monazite and bastnasite; what price could you quote for those ores?"

~ Ambassador Nejure

Dear Ambassador Nejure

If you have still not aquired the maximum of six new trading partners, and even if you had, then I would gladly wish to hold talk to you on behalf of my nation. For we seek trade partners as well and your caution in the choosing of these partners shows that you are devouted to making the right choices and staying with them. It is something that will certainly benefit both our nations.
It is with this letter that I wish to meet you or any other official of your nation face to face. I prefer to see who I am dealing with and hope you do as well.
I hope to hear a reply from you soon.

Your's sincerely,
Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë,
Queen of Taurenor

Greetings and Jubilations ICEL Administration,

The Tritarchic Dominions of New ArAreBee would also, if possible, inquire if we can be among the ranks of ICEL trading partners. I do believe we attempted this earlier, but the talks ended rather vaguely. We apologize for any offenses on our part.

Our main offers, from Market Analysis of ICEL, is mostly luxury items. We deal with this quite extensively, various old fashioned wines as well as the creation of new foodstuffs via careful genetic manipulation. An extensive infrastructure also exists in chemical development, proteins, and other biocentric products.

New ArAreBee also has a highly developed media, which is currently attempting to expand beyond our Earth Colony of DohNutAh.

Regards,
Xohr GeeVirWest
Fiscal Director
New ArAreBeen Administration Board

Dear Ambassador Nejure

If you have still not aquired the maximum of six new trading partners, and even if you had, then I would gladly wish to hold talk to you on behalf of my nation. For we seek trade partners as well and your caution in the choosing of these partners shows that you are devouted to making the right choices and staying with them. It is something that will certainly benefit both our nations.
It is with this letter that I wish to meet you or any other official of your nation face to face. I prefer to see who I am dealing with and hope you do as well.
I hope to hear a reply from you soon.

Your's sincerely,
Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë,
Queen of Taurenor


"Vanyaré, Tári Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë. Ananilmë mínayéta. - Yomeniëmína menya?"

~ Ambassador Nejure

{"Beautiful day, Queen Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë. To friendship look. At what place should we meet?}

Greetings and Jubilations ICEL Administration,

The Tritarchic Dominions of New ArAreBee would also, if possible, inquire if we can be among the ranks of ICEL trading partners. I do believe we attempted this earlier, but the talks ended rather vaguely. We apologize for any offenses on our part.

Our main offers, from Market Analysis of ICEL, is mostly luxury items. We deal with this quite extensively, various old fashioned wines as well as the creation of new foodstuffs via careful genetic manipulation. An extensive infrastructure also exists in chemical development, proteins, and other biocentric products.

New ArAreBee also has a highly developed media, which is currently attempting to expand beyond our Earth Colony of DohNutAh.

Regards,
Xohr GeeVirWest
Fiscal Director
New ArAreBeen Administration Board

"We do have exceptional demand for foreign luxury items, especially since the loss of access to the Menelmacari market. There were no offenses committed on your part: the Commonality merely entered a state of total diplomatic silence. Our sincerest apologies for the abrupt nature of our silence.

"We would be glad to have additional media available in the Commonality; any such arrival of new media stations, however, would involve licensing and other such beauracratic business. We can't allow anyone to broadcast in certain media; others are entirely unlicensed, but monitored. Naturally.

"Likewise, although we are sure your Earth colony already recieves INN stations (the signal is, after all, intended to reach every TVC/TV/HV set in the solar system - or as close to as possible), but it would be far better for them to be officially allowed, and for there to be an official INN AreArBee office - I know for a fact that INN Solar, by and away our largest media group, is willing and able to expand into new markets at this time.

"We are sure there are many other market compatibilities, and would like to secure a meeting to negotiate further. Where would you prefer to hold such a meeting?"

~ Ambassador Nejure

If there's not only six already.....

We are very interested by your plans to increase trade. As we are currently trying to increase our own trade relations, we would be very interested in establishing trade relations with you.

What we have to offer:

LRR specializes in shipbuilding and shipping. Our shipyards are some of the best in the galaxy, and can build almost any project. LRR freighters are fast and reliable, and can get your goods on the market quickly and cheaply.

Composite materials construction is also a big industry in LRR, as is asteroid mining. Materials combining resin with nitinol and other elements produce high armor protection from radiation and weapons. LRR mining crews are very good. While the LRRSF is admittedly not the best, we have excellent mining and construction facilities.

You would also gain access to LRR technologies, such as LRR long-range high-speed hyperspace drives and our excellent PD and shielding technologies.

Also, you will become aware of all major scientific discoveries made by LRR explorers. (Such as the Karos ship graveyard). The LRRIT archaeology, exobiology, astronomy, and geology teams will be at your disposal.


OCC: In case you forgot...

OOC: Ma-tek, Valinon did trade with you for some weapons tech a while ago. Sonic weaponry and some other random bits of technology. Did that count as establishing a permanent trade relationship? Please note, this will be deleted or turned into a formal application upon the answer to this question.

"Vanyaré, Tári Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë. Ananilmë mínayéta. - Yomeniëmína menya?"

~ Ambassador Nejure

{"Beautiful day, Queen Taurevanimë Nossë Nolofinwë. To friendship look. At what place should we meet?}

"I was thinking perhaps in your nation. I have yet to have gone abroad in this world and it will do good of seeing how the rest of our kin live. I am confident that you shall arange everything splendidly. (sp?)

Untill we meet.

~ Queen Taurevanimë

OOC: Ma-tek, Valinon did trade with you for some weapons tech a while ago. Sonic weaponry and some other random bits of technology. Did that count as establishing a permanent trade relationship? Please note, this will be deleted or turned into a formal application upon the answer to this question.

[OOC: Hmm. I thought we turned you down due to a poor 'credit scoring' thing ICly, which was my polite way of saying I didn't OOCly trust you with sonic weapons that I was selling you (I won't be blamed for people misusing what I sell!)...

Although that was some time ago, and my memory is hazy. Someone did get exclusive rights, though, that I do recall. I'll go looksie; sorry if I'm in error. :)]

OCC: In case you forgot...

[OOC: Eeps. Sorry - I was looking at your post last night, and I could've sworn I'd already answered it; my mistake! This is why I make notes of everything usually.... ;)

Will do when I come back to this thread in a little bit for IC updating thingies.]

[OOC: Hmm. I thought we turned you down due to a poor 'credit scoring' thing ICly, which was my polite way of saying I didn't OOCly trust you with sonic weapons that I was selling you (I won't be blamed for people misusing what I sell!)...

Although that was some time ago, and my memory is hazy. Someone did get exclusive rights, though, that I do recall. I'll go looksie; sorry if I'm in error. :)]

OOC: If this is true perhaps I should return the information on the telegram you sent me? Or just forget it all together?

"We do have exceptional demand for foreign luxury items, especially since the loss of access to the Menelmacari market. There were no offenses committed on your part: the Commonality merely entered a state of total diplomatic silence. Our sincerest apologies for the abrupt nature of our silence.

"We would be glad to have additional media available in the Commonality; any such arrival of new media stations, however, would involve licensing and other such beauracratic business. We can't allow anyone to broadcast in certain media; others are entirely unlicensed, but monitored. Naturally.

"Likewise, although we are sure your Earth colony already recieves INN stations (the signal is, after all, intended to reach every TVC/TV/HV set in the solar system - or as close to as possible), but it would be far better for them to be officially allowed, and for there to be an official INN AreArBee office - I know for a fact that INN Solar, by and away our largest media group, is willing and able to expand into new markets at this time.

"We are sure there are many other market compatibilities, and would like to secure a meeting to negotiate further. Where would you prefer to hold such a meeting?"

~ Ambassador Nejure

"We would prefer a meeting in your territory. Assuming that one is vacant, of course."

"I would expect the conference to be one sided, however, as New ArAreBeen business law leans heavily towards laissez-faire. Well, most of it does. Policy changes from dominion to dominion. New ArAreBeen Standard Business Protocol is followed, excluding several oddities."

"For example, Media law consists of regional frequency ownership and clauses dealing with establishing ownership, usually via 'de facto' means."

OOC: If this is true perhaps I should return the information on the telegram you sent me? Or just forget it all together?

[OOC: I did take a looksie, and my apologies: I mixed you up with someone else, methinks. Sorry about that.]

[OOC: Eeps. Sorry - I was looking at your post last night, and I could've sworn I'd already answered it; my mistake! This is why I make notes of everything usually.... ;)

Will do when I come back to this thread in a little bit for IC updating thingies.]

OCC: I think you might have, but I didn't see it so I thought I'd have another go.

"We would prefer a meeting in your territory. Assuming that one is vacant, of course."

"I would expect the conference to be one sided, however, as New ArAreBeen business law leans heavily towards laissez-faire. Well, most of it does. Policy changes from dominion to dominion. New ArAreBeen Standard Business Protocol is followed, excluding several oddities."

"For example, Media law consists of regional frequency ownership and clauses dealing with establishing ownership, usually via 'de facto' means."

"Then it clearly is even more necessary for discussions regarding the best manner in which to approach the clear differences in our economic... ideologies, if you like.

"We would hate for there to be a misunderstanding. - The Commonality invites New ArAreBee to send a representative to the Economic Court, Nenya, for discussion of the matter with the Chief Justice."

~ Ambassador Nejure


[OOC: Apologies for the delay.]

"After extensive debate in the Court, we have decided that the following states shall be given Most Favoured Nation Status with the Commonality, pending their reciprocation and acceptance; New ArAreBee, Lunatic Retard Robots, Vrak, and, pursuant to a meeting between a Court official and a government official of some variety, Taurenor.

"All such allocations are, of course, dependant upon a review in one year, upon which time quotas and tariffs may be altered. Greater details on existing quotas and tariffs have been released to the pertinant governments via the usual channels.

"There are further decisions to be made with regards to this particular matter; however, domestic issues generally take the priority, and Court business may prohibit rapid response. In such a case, the Court reinforces the right of the Executive Council to make provisional 'low-end' allocations of status to new or existing trading partners as it may see fit."

~ Commonality Economic Court statement (issued by Justice DeLora Dethra)

[OOC: The final decision was always intended to take place around this time, by the way. But the deadness of the thread due to my recent repetitive absences caused it to appear to be even later. Which is a shame.]

The Parliament Funkadelic expresses its happiness over this new diplomatic relationship with a few minutes of skanking around the parliament chambers.

This new, more solid relationship with the Commonality will benefit LRR greatly, and gifts of freighters and exquisite sitars are made ready for giving to the Commonality.