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I have here underlined the basic principles of Corporate Fascism:

1) Elimination of all the financial policies of the nanny state:
---- Child benefit will be stopped
---- State pensions will be stopped
---- Unemployment benefit will remain, but will be halved

2) Elimination of all the social policies of the nanny state:
---- Drug laws will be ended – if you are addicted or die like Leah Betts, that’s your problem
---- Force hospitalisations will be ended – if you want to commit suicide or hurt yourself, that’s your problem
---- All gun control will be ended – people must have the right to defend their properties

3) Restoration of law and order by any means necessary
---- Re-introduction of the death penalty. For petty criminals, a three strikes and then the death penalty policy will be introduced
---- Doubling of the police ratio
---- Police will be given new powers to stop young yobs ruining our communities

4) The free market
---- Income tax and corporation tax will be cut to a flat rate of 10% or lower

Have any questions?

We don't like Imperialist Free market dogs. As long as you keep your oppression within your borders, noone has any questions, except maybe my MiG 21's.

I pity your people.

-Official Statement from the Office of the Premier

THis seems more like Libertarianism than Fascism... how does fascism even remotely come into play in this?

Bah, was going to ask that same question!

As Free Marketist as Zerni and nearly everything is legal. Drug laws are one of the few things enforced. After all drugs interfire with worker productity and the Mega Corporations don't like that.

Emperor Mishimi.

<< OOC: Libertarians usually don't believe in increasing police forces or using capital punishment, either, for the record. So it's libertarian where it benefits the corporations, and fascist where it benefits law and order in a forced sense (what fascist idealists believe fascism is all about.) Title makes sense, RP-wise think it's cool, in real life would be appalled, of course. Thumbs up for imaginary oppression! heh.>>

Official Statement from the Office of Foreign Relations,
Holy Empire of Grand Hobgoblonia:

To the leadership of CharlotteMaria:

Your government model seems sound, Grand Hobgoblonia's information technology and cheese exporting sectors may be of interest if your corporate state has anything of value for trade.

Assertively,
Prime Minister Baragh IV,
Loyal Servant to the One True Monarch
of the Holy Empire of Grand Hobgoblonia


Disclaimer: The Holy Empire of Grand Hobgoblonia reserves the right to look the other way if nations with really big armies decide to invade CharlotteMaria for its advertised sovreign oppression.

Earlier today, The Senate of The Dominion of The Captain passed a resolution applauding CharlotteMaria for realizing the way things should be in the world.

If your nation finds itself needing assistance, The Captain will gladly help you.

Offical statement from the Kingdom of Kuppo

What goes in CharlotteMaria...is best left up to CharlotteMaria's leader. They can have any government they please as long they don't interfere with other sovergin nations

Wolfgang Hans
-Minister of Foregin Policy

I have here underlined the basic principles of Corporate Fascism:

1) Elimination of all the financial policies of the nanny state:
---- Child benefit will be stopped
---- State pensions will be stopped
---- Unemployment benefit will remain, but will be halved

2) Elimination of all the social policies of the nanny state:
---- Drug laws will be ended – if you are addicted or die like Leah Betts, that’s your problem
---- Force hospitalisations will be ended – if you want to commit suicide or hurt yourself, that’s your problem
---- All gun control will be ended – people must have the right to defend their properties

3) Restoration of law and order by any means necessary
---- Re-introduction of the death penalty. For petty criminals, a three strikes and then the death penalty policy will be introduced
---- Doubling of the police ratio
---- Police will be given new powers to stop young yobs ruining our communities

4) The free market
---- Income tax and corporation tax will be cut to a flat rate of 10% or lower

Have any questions?

OOC: What a load of bollocks! This is the epitome of fascism without the racism.

The social policies on law and order are fine but it is the one's concerning benefits and welfares that are most troubling. Surely, we do not like to see the unemployed remain unemployed for life but we must help them to get jobs again.

The lack of social policies will cause a serious problem. Instead of the state protecting their citizens, what you are doing is simply exposing them to harm's way.

As a reminder, there is a difference between capitalism and fascism. For example, the fascist does not believe in the free market.

We don't like Imperialist Free market dogs. As long as you keep your oppression within your borders, noone has any questions, except maybe my MiG 21's.

Go home, grandpa! MiG-21s are '60s aircraft and can do sweet FA in modern warfare.

THis seems more like Libertarianism than Fascism... how does fascism even remotely come into play in this?

I was going to post the same thing...luckily I read on instead of making an idiot of my self. This has little to do with Fascism...fascism is just a "cool word" that people use these days.

Oh, and Sino, Fasicsm doesn't equal racism...necessarily

This is strikingly similar to our system here at the Mikosolf Corperation:

(Edited to fit us)

1) Elimination of all the financial policies of the nanny state:
---- Child benefit will be stopped
---- State pensions will be stopped
---- Full employment!

2) Elimination of all the social policies of the nanny state:
---- Drug laws will be ended – See: Brave New World
---- Force hospitalisations will be ended – if you want to commit suicide or hurt yourself, that’s your problem

3) Restoration of law and order by any means necessary
---- Re-introduction of the death penalty in necessary situation only, strong use of reform for we do not want to lose our time and money put into our workers.
---- Doubling of the police ratio
---- Police will be given new powers to stop young mobs ruining our communities

4) The free market
---As the corperation we control all assests, be it monetary or work force, ergo, the GDP is our profit.

We don't like Imperialist Free market dogs. As long as you keep your oppression within your borders, noone has any questions, except maybe my MiG 21's.

Go home, grandpa! MiG-21s are '60s aircraft and can do sweet FA in modern warfare.

Except the Chinese built J-7FS, then against it's about as MiG 21 as the AV-8B/Harrier Mk. 5-10 is a Harrier.

As Free Marketist as Zerni and nearly everything is legal. Drug laws are one of the few things enforced. After all drugs interfire with worker productity and the Mega Corporations don't like that.

Emperor Mishimi.

We have state sanctioned prozac and happy pills to ensure that the underclass stays firmly oppressed. :twisted:

We don't like Imperialist Free market dogs. As long as you keep your oppression within your borders, noone has any questions, except maybe my MiG 21's.

Nobody can oppose us. We have an unstoppable army. :twisted:

THis seems more like Libertarianism than Fascism... how does fascism even remotely come into play in this?

The difference between Libertarianism and Fascism:

Libertarians are politically correct. They will not say anything that is classist, racist or sexist. Even with low taxes and little welfare, libertarians will always deny being classist. Even with no sexual harrasment laws, libertarians will always deny being sexist. Libertarians will never be tough on immigration, as they do not want to seem racist. Libertarians are against affirmative action, but still deny being racist.

Fascists are not concerned about political correctness. We will quite happily be tough on anything that is a threat to the state. Fascism is about natural inequality. Libertarianism is about piece, tolerance and responsibility.

Libertarians try to paint a rose tinted view of some of thier very hard line right wing ideas. Fascists admit what thier policies are really all about.

We don't like Imperialist Free market dogs. As long as you keep your oppression within your borders, noone has any questions, except maybe my MiG 21's.

Nobody can oppose us. We have an unstoppable army. :twisted:

Perhaps, we shall see about that.

OOC: Why the hell does your nation have a girl's name? LOL!

As Free Marketist as Zerni and nearly everything is legal. Drug laws are one of the few things enforced. After all drugs interfire with worker productity and the Mega Corporations don't like that.

Emperor Mishimi.

We have state sanctioned prozac and happy pills to ensure that the underclass stays firmly oppressed. :twisted:

Good, dumb up your population, lower their productivity and product quality. We'll cheer you on as we make much more money.

Zerni CEO

THis seems more like Libertarianism than Fascism... how does fascism even remotely come into play in this?

The difference between Libertarianism and Fascism:

Libertarians are politically correct. They will not say anything that is classist, racist or sexist. Even with low taxes and little welfare, libertarians will always deny being classist. Even with no sexual harrasment laws, libertarians will always deny being sexist. Libertarians will never be tough on immigration, as they do not want to seem racist. Libertarians are against affirmative action, but still deny being racist.

Fascists are not concerned about political correctness. We will quite happily be tough on anything that is a threat to the state. Fascism is about natural inequality. Libertarianism is about piece, tolerance and responsibility.

Libertarians try to paint a rose tinted view of some of thier very hard line right wing ideas. Fascists admit what thier policies are really all about.

You have it wrong....Libertarians are rarely right wing, and they aren't the opposites of Fascists. Authoritarians are the opposites of Libertarians. Right Authoritarians are called fascists, while left authoritarians are called communists.

The difference between Libertarianism and Fascism:

Libertarians are politically correct. They will not say anything that is classist, racist or sexist. Even with low taxes and little welfare, libertarians will always deny being classist. Even with no sexual harrasment laws, libertarians will always deny being sexist. Libertarians will never be tough on immigration, as they do not want to seem racist. Libertarians are against affirmative action, but still deny being racist.

Fascists are not concerned about political correctness. We will quite happily be tough on anything that is a threat to the state. Fascism is about natural inequality. Libertarianism is about piece, tolerance and responsibility.

Libertarians try to paint a rose tinted view of some of thier very hard line right wing ideas. Fascists admit what thier policies are really all about.OOC: As a Libertarian... WRONG!

We hate political correctness. We want the military on the borders, not because we are racist(although some of us are), but because there are legal ways to get into America. We want the nation to be fair, not to cater to one group because in the past, the whites kicked them around.

As said before, we use political correctness as a joke. I'll tell you right now, I admit that we are not a part of the Republicans because they're too liberal for us.

Now... the Libertarian version:

1) Elimination of all the financial policies of the nanny state:
---- Child benefit will be halved
---- State pensions will be stopped
---- Unemployment benefit will remain, but will be halved

2) Elimination of all the social policies of the nanny state:
---- Drug laws will be ended – if you are addicted or die like Leah Betts, that’s your problem, unless you threaten someone elses life
---- Force hospitalisations will be ended – if you want to commit suicide or hurt yourself, that’s your problem, unless you threaten someone elses life
---- All gun control will be ended – people must have the right to defend their properties, unless convicted of violent crimes

3) Restoration of law and order
---- Re-introduction of the death penalty.
---- No more than one appeal for Death Row Inmate
---- More probation for non-violent crimes

4) The free market
---- Income tax and corporation tax will be cut to a flat rate of 15% or lower

you serious crimmond? That's not how I was taught...that sounds too much like me to be...

*confusion sets in*

"What...is this feeling?"

I've been a Libertarian for years. I think I know what one is. ;)

All the left and right can do is bicker. Nationalism is the only political cause that is good. Although I tend to be a right-winged authoritarian, I am by no means a fascist according to the description set by that CharlotteMaria.

OOC: Why the hell do some people give their nation girls' names?

All the left and right can do is bicker. Nationalism is the only political cause that is good. Although I tend to be a right-winged authoritarian, I am by no means a fascist according to the description set by that CharlotteMaria.

OOC: Why the hell do some people give their nation girls' names?

OOC: Good question, Sino. China is feminine. So is America. Britain as well.

Oh, and tag for future response.

OOC: Good question, Sino. China is feminine. So is America. Britain as well.

Oh, and tag for future response.

OOC: I prefer the Nazi expression of 'Fatherland', but that will not occur for China in real life. I prefer the image of China as a "Master Lee" as opposed to Uncle Sam.

IC: Now General Liu isn't that Master Lee material as he's more a Chiang Kai-shek follower.

OOC 2: Roania, as a fellow right-winger, are you that extreme in your fascism?

OOC 3: Sino does not sound neither feminine nor masculine.

Now... the Libertarian version:

1) Elimination of all the financial policies of the nanny state:
---- Child benefit will be halved
---- State pensions will be stopped
---- Unemployment benefit will remain, but will be halved

2) Elimination of all the social policies of the nanny state:
---- Drug laws will be ended – if you are addicted or die like Leah Betts, that’s your problem, unless you threaten someone elses life
---- Force hospitalisations will be ended – if you want to commit suicide or hurt yourself, that’s your problem, unless you threaten someone elses life
---- All gun control will be ended – people must have the right to defend their properties, unless convicted of violent crimes

3) Restoration of law and order
---- Re-introduction of the death penalty.
---- No more than one appeal for Death Row Inmate
---- More probation for non-violent crimes

4) The free market
---- Income tax and corporation tax will be cut to a flat rate of 15% or lower

See, libertarianism and fascism are very similar aren't they?

I've been a Libertarian for years. I think I know what one is. ;)

Political Freedoms: Outlawed

I don't blame you. Theres nothing wrong with being a fascist. In the situation where democracy would cause the sheepish majority to overule a wealthy and succesful minority, then fascism would be the only choice to protect the peoples liberty against a communist uprising.

OOC: Sino, I advocate government control over everything. Every little thing. How people think, what they eat and make, what they believe...

that count?

And Sino would be Masculine, going from the Latin and Spanish.

OOC: Sino, I advocate government control over everything. Every little thing. How people think, what they eat and make, what they believe...

that count?

And Sino would be Masculine, going from the Latin and Spanish.

Government control of the economy? I'm the minds of your citizens are still free to choose over the small things in life, e.g. what products to buy.

Sino is very authoritarian but we are no where near fascist.

I've been a Libertarian for years. I think I know what one is. ;)

Political Freedoms: Outlawed

I don't blame you. Theres nothing wrong with being a fascist. In the situation where democracy would cause the sheepish majority to overule a wealthy and succesful minority, then fascism would be the only choice to protect the peoples liberty against a communist uprising.I'm not a facist and I play Crimmond as a power mad Empire. Although I did have a Libertarian Police State for a while...

I am a Libertarian. On an online test linked to from the Libertarian Party website, I either feel really liberal about stuff or really conservative. I normally answered enough to be Libertarian but I had an alarming amount of Democratic tendancies.

Then again, we're like the Democrats without the Big Government stance on a lot of issues...