NationStates Jolt Archive


Slavery in Jagiellonia

13-03-2004, 20:11
exerpt from: The Jagiellonian Free Press

In a move which has sparked outrage from the senate's opposition parties, the governing Conservative Pact has passed legislation allowing for the enslavement of Jagiellonia's criminals. According to the Irreformable Convict Act, Jagiellonian felons, when convicted of their third crime, are stripped of their citizenship and sold to domestic corporations as slaves, to live out their lives in servitude. Perhaps more shocking is that Queen Issabella Augustina has publicly endorsed this new legislation, calling it a "fine tactic in the war against the criminal underworld which plagues our nation".
Over the past week, a dozen prison riots have occured, leading to the death or injury of thousands of inmates, as Jagiellonia's armed forces and civil service have begun to implement the new legislation.
13-03-2004, 20:54
No one cares? Cool.
imported_Cypherland
13-03-2004, 21:24
**SECRET**
We applaud your efforts to enslave the weak. The only way these thieves and murderers shall live, is under the crack of the whip!
If any foolish nation would dare try and attack you for their "antislavery" policies, we will support you to the end!
--Emperor Xavier Servioran
**SECRET**
13-03-2004, 21:29
(secret dispatch)

We thank the Emperor Xavier Servioran for his support in this matter. We invite you to establish an embassy in our capital city, Nova Varsovia, as we feel it would be prudent to establish diplomatic relations between our two nations.
imported_Cypherland
13-03-2004, 21:31
*sends an ambassador with an entourage of slave boys*
We invite you to establish an embassy in our nation of Cypheria.

OOC:
I'll dig up my slavery thread so we can RP.
13-03-2004, 22:31
Your embassy has been established. If you want to know more about our nation, please visit: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2807454#2807454
Diminix
13-03-2004, 22:44
The enslavement of your criminals is perhaps the best idea one could think of. Although releasing it to the public would be the wrong thing to do considering the large amount of hippy nations in the world who thrive for peace yet they are the first to pull the trigger.

Excerpt From Larger Message From Kaiser Ses'uh

[Too tired to type up alot of shit right now :P]
Luxornburg
13-03-2004, 23:24
Her Elegancy, the Grand Duchess of Luxornburg, is thoughly shocked and horrified that such barbaric laws are implemented. Her Elegancy points out such laws are defying the human rights that all international citizens are required to have. Her Elegancy inquires if an alternate piece of legislature could be done in replace of that- for example, rehabilitation in counseling centers or working for XX amount of years to gain the convict's freedom back, then releasing them.
13-03-2004, 23:27
Her Elegancy should mind her own affairs.
Edolia
14-03-2004, 00:48
"Don't they realize that it is these 'criminals 'are the natural product of a corrupt capitalist system?" asked the Crown Prince.
"Indeed, my son. But what is there for us to do? Edolia is a peaceful nation."
"But father! They are the oppressors..."
"My son..."
"But the Red Flag shall be painted with the blood of the oppressors."
"Indeed, my child. But now is not the time to be discussing this. It is late/ Go to bed and I'll be up in a second to read you your bedtime stories."
"Yes father..."

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"Edolia strongly condemns these actions by the government of Jagiellonia and is contemplating an economic embargo."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs
14-03-2004, 00:58
The Logo RV (Our government) announces its opposition to the actions of the Jagiellonia
Akilliam
14-03-2004, 01:01
The Empire of the Iron Eagle condemns this practice. Punishment is due criminals, but to be sold into slavery for their offenses is beyond what is reasonable. Slavery is not a practice that can be mildly tolerated, or somehow justified. When a person is sold, as a piece of property, you have done more than kill them - you have taken their humanity. You have robbed them of what is ultimately most important to any people.

The Senate shall take this matter under consideration. We do not stand for slavery, and will not allow to proceed, no matter how much one attempts to justify it. Economic measures will be considered, and if those fail, other methods will be taken under consideration.

This is the final warning, or you will learn.


Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Luxornburg
14-03-2004, 01:01
Her Elegancy takes offense at your nation's reply. Her Elegancy points out that in the past, the Duchy of Luxorn once followed measures along those lines. Three years later, that measure gave pretext to the Davyson Invasion. Enslavement only breeds cause to intervention by foreign kingdoms.
14-03-2004, 01:05
Akilliam: Indeed, it seems you do expect us to cower before your might. We shall not. Your threats shall not affect the decisions of our democraticly elected government. Ever.
Akilliam
14-03-2004, 01:10
Then, it would seem, that the Empire shall have to decapitate that government. Some will accuse the Empire of aggression; to save human beings from slavery, we will glaldly take on that title. If it means that we must be considered rogue to save human beings from slavery, then we will gladly accept that title.

But Democracy, the common cry of the oppressor, will not work. A democracy can be just as violent as a despotism. A Republic can be just as diabolical as a dictatorship. And if your government did decide to enact this stupidity, then you should consider removing those officials - or we will.

Fear the Eagles,
Dictator Aelius
14-03-2004, 01:12
Our standpoint on this issue will not change.
Luxornburg
14-03-2004, 01:18
Her Elegancy, the Grand Duchess of Luxornburg, would like to support Akilliam's statement. Her Elegancy also would like to inform you that if such a bill is passed an embargo will be placed upon your exports to the Grand Duchy of Luxornburg.
14-03-2004, 01:20
As far as we know, we are exporting nothing to your nation, therefore such an embargo is of little concern to us.
Akilliam
14-03-2004, 01:20
Do you not understand? At a time of war we can field an Army that would equal a third of your popullation. A third! For every male in your nation, we can field a soldier. This does not speak of our immense naval power, a force that could level your cities at a whim.

Think of your people, those who have not been sold like dogs. If it does come to war, you will be united with the Empire and our garrisons shall ensure that human rights are enforced.

Fear the Eagles,
Dictator Aelius
14-03-2004, 01:20
The Logo RV is also considering a Bill of Economic Sanctions on Jagiellonia. Enough petitions have just been elected for the parlimentary process to begin.
14-03-2004, 01:21
We have powerful allies Akilliam, we fear you not.
Akilliam
14-03-2004, 01:25
We will allow our friends in this matter to take the time needed to enact economic policies to bring this to a close. It is our hope that you will listen to reason.
Lietuveska
14-03-2004, 01:40
Lietuveska considers this act deplorable and disgusting. The nation of Jagiellonia does not understand what it means to represent itself with pride and dignity, and we shall not deal with nations like yours.

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Roania
14-03-2004, 01:50
Ah, dear. Do you hear that, my friends? It is the sound of the democrats and socialists fighting with one another. Listen to those fools bicker about human rights. Since when have humans had rights?

There are no rights. Only the rule of the strong, and what privileges the strong may choose to grant the weak. We are saddened by this stance.

The nation of Jaggelonia is foolish to allow these criminals to live in any manner, and the nation of Akkiliam is more foolish to care.

When will these imbeciles learn that the only way forward is through corporativation? The only path is the right-fold path.

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Minister for Foriegn Affairs and Trade, Duke Simon Darquis
Yes, Ambassador. But my answer will remain, as it always has been, no.
The Most Holy Principality of Roania
14-03-2004, 18:19
The Logo RV has imposed full economic sanctions on your country. We will not be driving through it.
Cyberutopia
14-03-2004, 22:31
People who impose sanctions on nations they don't even trade with amuse me greatly. Anyway, we shall stand by our ally Jagiellonia against any nosy dissenters against their proven method of decision.
Oshima and Izu
14-03-2004, 23:56
O&I is, as always, intrigued by these human rights debates...

For the record, we do not have the concept of 'human rights' in O&I, largely because the bulk of our political class cannot, strictly speaking, be considered human.

We do however take a dim view of countires who seek to impose their cultural norms on others without first trying to understand how and why those values have developed.

Cultures develop differently, my friendly fellow nations; it is but a short step from seeking to aid an oppressed population in another nation to turning into an oppressor oneself...