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Attention all IDI and NAA nations: Kecha's betrayal.

Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:19
The Socialist Republic of Xanthal, as of 22:49 today, has been engaged in war by the nation of Kecha, its supposed ally. Kecha, in firing on a fleet of the Xanthalian Armada, has violated the most sacred law of the IDI and in doing so has been automatically banished from the alliance. Now we call upon our IDI allies to do their solemn duty and help us put the Kechans in their place. We did not ask for a war, but the Kechans have given us one nonetheless. Therefore, we call upon you all to rally with us in the following battle plan: We will work together to disable or destroy the Kechan fleet of combat vessels and demand the surrender of the Kechan government and military. If it is given, we will work together to rebuild Kecha's defensive infrastructure, but also take measures to limit thier offensive capability in order to prevent future aggression. If the Kechans will not surrender, we will use ground forces to remove their leaders and build a new government with the monitoring and assistance of all IDI nations. This is a dark day that we must fight our own former ally, but as an alliance we must stand firm against this betrayal and prove once and for all that, despite our differences, we can stand together. Law requires you to help us fight the Kechans, but there is no one to enforce that law but yourselves. So we ask you: Let us work together to secure the alliance and defend against Kechan aggression. In this time of trouble and regret, let us show our unity and be as one against this former friend that has become our enemy.
Also, by the power of the Treaty of Aranamor, we call upon the New Aranamor Alliance to join our cause. We may have an uneasy past, but through cooperation in this war we can achieve a lasting friendship. Honor the pact you signed with us and rally against the people who have threatened your own member nation of New Xanthal. Help us defeat the Kechans and spare others from the betrayal of faith that we have faced.

Refrence thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128548
Cyberutopia
08-03-2004, 06:22
The Cyberutopian government has remained silent on this painful issue, and is expected to remain so for some time.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:33
We certainly understand Cyberutopia's hesitation and reluctance, but they are an integral member of the international community and the International Defense Initiative. You made a promise to the IDI when you joined. Now is the time to honor that promise and defend your allies. Though it may be saddening, you cannot ignore Kecha's betrayal for long. Stand tall, and hold your head high. Your allies need you.
Cyberutopia
08-03-2004, 06:36
Paper contracts are nothing compared to the relationships between nations. Our decision remains undecided.
Steel Butterfly
08-03-2004, 06:37
Paper contracts are nothing compared to the relationships between nations. Our decision remains undecided.

[OOC: But aren't alliances (formed by paper contracts) relationships between nations that must be upheld?]
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:38
This we know, but Kecha has attacked us. We have been close friends and allies for over a thousand years. If they would attack us, they would just as easily attack you. We must stand against this threat. Xanthal can handle it alone, but if the IDI will not back us, it proves that the alliance is unable to function and is thus moot since its members refuse to honor their commitments.
Cyberutopia
08-03-2004, 06:39
((Shh. Maybe Xanthal forgot that, don't remind him. :roll: ))
Cyberutopia
08-03-2004, 06:41
This we know, but Kecha has attacked us. We have been close friends and allies for over a thousand years. If they would attack us, they would just as easily attack you. We must stand against this threat. Xanthal can handle it alone, but if the IDI will not back us, it proves that the alliance is unable to function and is thus moot since its members refuse to honor their commitments.

Cyberutopia shall, regretfully, support Xanthal in this quest in the best interest of the IDI. However, we ask that they do not attempt to play to our fears again.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:44
We play at nothing. We bring the facts and make inferences, as any good government does. If you think we get any enjoyment from rallying the IDI against Kecha, you are mistaken. We are fighting our friends. It is painful, but it must be done. The opening battle is taking place in the Relafia system (in the thread linked above, you've been there, you know where it is). If you can send any reinforcements, it would be greatly appreciated.
Cyberutopia
08-03-2004, 06:46
We are no militaristically spacefaring nation.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:47
If you have nothing to give, we do not begrudge you that. We appreciate your support.
Guanyu
08-03-2004, 06:48
Hmmm.....I think Xanthal is in the right...but I don't like Xanthal...but I think he's in the right...but I don't like him. CURSE MY INDECISIVE NATURE!
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:50
Guanyu: The only time we've interacted IC is when I tried to purchase that station from you. OOC we've had a few clashes, but I don't like holding grudges...
Teritora
08-03-2004, 06:51
OOC:Oh yes, what the Kingdom of Zroin is counting on, all the people that would likely come to Tirah aid when they attack will be fighting each other. This is going to be an royal mess. All the former going at it and the vultures swopping in. The Teritoran's wouldn't be able to call in their usual allies of Xanthal, Kecha and Hakari along with others because their all be fighting each other. So this war will be going on and war in the Tirah system that might spreed elsewher will be taking place. Goodly I got two wars on my hands to deal with. :wink:
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 06:53
Teritora: OOC: Nobody told you life was fair. We've had the same thing happen to us before. When these things happen, they seem to happen all at once.
Kanuckistan
08-03-2004, 06:54
Hmmm.....I think Xanthal is in the right...but I don't like Xanthal...but I think he's in the right...but I don't like him. CURSE MY INDECISIVE NATURE!

OOC:
Look at it as an excuse to blow stuff up.
Guanyu
08-03-2004, 06:55
Hmmm.....I think Xanthal is in the right...but I don't like Xanthal...but I think he's in the right...but I don't like him. CURSE MY INDECISIVE NATURE!

OOC:
Look at it as an excuse to blow stuff up.

Damn. Good argument. Now the only question is who to support.
Kanuckistan
08-03-2004, 07:03
Hmmm.....I think Xanthal is in the right...but I don't like Xanthal...but I think he's in the right...but I don't like him. CURSE MY INDECISIVE NATURE!

OOC:
Look at it as an excuse to blow stuff up.

Damn. Good argument. Now the only question is who to support.

OOC:
I haven't done more than glance at the thread in question, but if you think Xanthal is in the right, you should probally support him; and if his allies get into the fight, there'll be fewer people trying to break your toys than if you help Kecha.
Kecha
08-03-2004, 14:46
We are preparing a statement. Don't worry, only Truth shall be present here.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 15:57
Please, do. I think we all wish to hear your reasons for attacking us when we had not so much as fired a shot at you.
Thelas
08-03-2004, 16:19
In space, a TMI warship sat, attempting to intercept the many messages that were relayed through space. As more and more messages were sent, they were transfered back to Thelas for the Palantir project to decode.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 16:20
Thread edited to call upon the NAA under the terms of the Treaty of Aranamor.
Kecha
08-03-2004, 16:42
Please, do. I think we all wish to hear your reasons for attacking us when we had not so much as fired a shot at you.

When our ships did not hail your Fleet after the 5 minutes limit you then approached them at high speeds, and with your weapons ready for full combat. Admiral K.V. Rose, with whom we have since lost contact, viewed this as an offensive action, and believed your ships intended to attack. He sought to strike preemptively, so as to minimize casualties among his forces. He also sought to push your Fleet away, and maintain the blockade as per his orders. We had said we would fire on anyone trying to run the blockade. Those were his orders. If he has died, it is a noble death.
Xanthal
08-03-2004, 19:24
We approached them at low speed, and took no aggressive action except to deploy the wings of our Dreadnaughts and Super Dreadnaughts, standard cautionary procedure after two warning shots had been fired at us by your fleet. Your blockade no longer existed by the time you attacked us. Your ships wee orbiting Relafia IV and had not announced their intentions there. Furthermore, let the record show that we did not run either the Teritoran line nor the Kechan blockade.
Atlantian Outcasts
08-03-2004, 19:48
OOC: hey, a space war. I don't think I've ever seen one of these....

oh...and tag. (purly for information reasons)
Kecha
09-03-2004, 00:01
Regardless of your speed, your actions were deemed a buildup to an attack. This whole mess points out a major IDI issue.
Belem
09-03-2004, 02:52
Is neutral since Belem is modern tech.
Kecha
09-03-2004, 04:57
Is neutral since Belem is modern tech.

Understandable.
Pablicosta
09-03-2004, 09:06
tag for later
Xanthal
09-03-2004, 17:17
If you think that moving ships are aggressive by default, you're even more of a menace than I thought. What do you suggest, exactly? You started this war, do you want to finish it?
Pablicosta
09-03-2004, 17:27
Two Pablicostan Space Fleets, Ingrid VI and Philosophy have been diverted immediatley to hold the Xanthalian ines in the event of conflict.
We count Xanthal as an important aly and would never consider opening fire on them in conflict. Kecha however has no history with us, so die to multiple involements, and the will not to have him boot me from the Space Council, I must side with Xanthal. Oh, and he has not really done anything wrong, unlike somepeople.
Pablicosta
09-03-2004, 17:27
Two Pablicostan Space Fleets, Ingrid VI and Philosophy have been diverted immediatley to hold the Xanthalian ines in the event of conflict.
We count Xanthal as an important aly and would never consider opening fire on them in conflict. Kecha however has no history with us, so die to multiple involements, and the will not to have him boot me from the Space Council, I must side with Xanthal. Oh, and he has not really done anything wrong, unlike somepeople.
Xanthal
09-03-2004, 19:17
Your support is greatly appreciated, and you can be sure that it will be remembered. Now that the initial battle has ended, we are hoping to recieve an offer of peace from the Kechans. If we do not recieve one soon, however, we will have no choice but to assume that they are rallying for another offensive and will be forced to take preemptive measures to prevent it. In short, the Kechans started the war and now it's up to them whether or not to end it. At this point though, peace will not be free. Almost three thousand Xanthalians were killed in the first engagement, not to mention the over three trillion dollars in damage to our ships. Some type of reparations will be demanded, you can be assured of that.
Cyberutopia
09-03-2004, 19:32
Xanthal, are we to understand you have highly advanced FTL drives? If you can spare some, we can actually assist you in this war, rather than just offer moral support, which is quite useless.
Xanthal
10-03-2004, 01:45
We hope that the war will end here. However, you have a point. If you are interested in stepping to the stars, we would be only too happy to guide you along your way, war or not. We are always pleased to assist other nations into the galactic stage. We did it for Kecha, PSO Capital States, and Foe Hammer. We'd be glad to add you to the list if that's what you want. Just be warned, the universe is a dangerous place. Once you dip your foot in it's not easy to leave.
Cyberutopia
10-03-2004, 01:48
Yes, we are quite aware that the universe is dangerous, as both the Lai Risad and the Oracle discovered (may the lost souls rest in peace). Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Xanthal
10-03-2004, 04:11
OOC: Cyberutopia, start a thread for this, won't you? I don't want to clutter this thread with an independent storyline.
Matrex
12-03-2004, 03:13
I must stay neutral. I'm Modern tech. Sorry

PS-I miss spoke
Pablitopia
12-03-2004, 16:46
I will rp as Pablitopia, view the thread, Moving on. They have far superior space force as they inhabit a galaxy of their own.

The two fleets re now Pablitopian.

IDI Note Although Pablitopia is alive, Pablicosta will remain my modern tech nation, whilst Pablitopia is Future tech. Thank you.
Pablitopia
12-03-2004, 16:53
OOC-Above.

IC-Xanthal, we will be there to support you through this conflict, and are prepared to participate in actions against ther nation of Kecha. Our current force in your vacinity is:


5 Flagship Anhialator Class.
10 Super Cruiser Ships.
50 Small Destroyer Class Vessels.
25 Large Destroyer Vessles.
10 Assault Base Ships-1,000 Small Fighter Class Vessels each.
2 Invasion Personel Carriers-In Low orbit.
Xanthal
12-03-2004, 17:20
That is wonderful news. If Kecha does not formally propose peace within the next day (real time), we will move against the remainder of their navy.
Cyberutopia
12-03-2004, 17:31
Xanthal: We have decided to create a FTL drive of our own (using handy-dandy B5 tech), and will soon be able to provide support.
Xanthal
12-03-2004, 19:09
Very well then. Good luck. If you need any help, feel free to ask.
Teritora
12-03-2004, 21:55
We are currently analizing the reports from our Fleet sent to the region, so far what we have is from the reports is that the Kechans responded as an deterimed Blockading fleet should have, they only had to fire one warning shot before they started targeting ships. We will anlalize the reports of the Admirals Asha and Asha and other date before we act one way or another. However that is even happened is as much Xanthals fault as Kechas.

King Doran Tor Asha
Xanthal
13-03-2004, 00:12
We take no responsibility for escorting commercial freighters to an open port that had every right to recieve them. As a nation, we acknowledge no blockades. You should know that. Kecha has no right to block free trade among willing nations, nor does anyone else. As far as we are concerned, the Kechan navy fired on us without provocation.
Teritora
13-03-2004, 01:50
Blockading is and drasitic but traditional legalmate means of action to apply pressure to another country. It can seen that purpicing crossing an blockade is an provocation in itself. However I attempted to medate before this went to far however both sides refused to even talk. As is I am still making my desion on what to do. We do hold both Kecha and Xanthal at fault for that fact that this has even happened.

King Doran Tor Asha
Xanthal
13-03-2004, 10:55
You may believe what you will. Our record is clear. Suppose we blockaded your homeworld. Would you share blame for a battle if you tried to break the blockade? Of course not. You would be in the right because you have the right to come and go through free space as you please. The same thing goes here. The Kechan navy attempted to put a noose around the neck of our New Xanthalian brethren. Do you blame us for stopping the murder?
Pablitopia
13-03-2004, 12:16
Xanthal is right, attempting to abolish a blockade or other means of containment is well within the rights of any nation. By erecting the blockade Kecha opened herself for such repercussions.


Ever Knowledgable
~Pabli
Teritora
13-03-2004, 15:28
We hold you responsable for failing to even attempt diplomatic settlement, as we blame Kecha for the same thing. So it is both your faults. King Doran even tried twice to get both of you back down and settle this peacefully though negoations. The Xanthalian Dicator refused, responding only to the second message to say no and the Kechans never responded to either to even say no.

Teritoran IDI delagate.
Arenumberg
13-03-2004, 17:37
Xanthal, you have my assurances that the NAA is behind you on this, we pledge our support, though i am sure some nations will independently make a statement.
Pablicosta
13-03-2004, 17:48
We hold you responsable for failing to even attempt diplomatic settlement, as we blame Kecha for the same thing. So it is both your faults. King Doran even tried twice to get both of you back down and settle this peacefully though g0at. The Xanthalian Dicator refused, responding only to the second message to say no and the Kechans never responded to either to even say no.

Teritoran IDI delagate.

OOC-Can't be bothered to log in and out, so this is Pablitopia-'cause I say so.
IC-

This was un-resolvable through speach, Kecha trains its people from young to fight, and Xanthal, well Xanthal is never afraid to avoid conflict. Face it, the IDI is going to split in two, and we have to defend our honour and pride.

FACT:-Kecha knocks up a blockade on Xanthal, and when it is demolished and the threat of war looms won't even take the time to say Sorry. Silly Silly Person.

Oh, and further 3 fleets will be joining the battlegroup within the next few hours.

KECHA, please note that any vessels in the vacinity have been targetted in an advance warning before the conflict kicks off again.
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One Super Cruiser rises above the rest of the fleet and faces the Kechan vessels which remain (If any) and fires. A beam of blue lleaps across space and explodes into a flat disc of electric blue, pushing the particles of space along with it-creating a black hole like illusion.
Xanthal
13-03-2004, 19:19
Kecha's time is up. I'm going to the other thread to move the fleet.
Teritora
13-03-2004, 20:16
There must be popular surport to wage an war and with sentament such as it is my government is unable to surport an war against either side as an fight between our longest allies and friends. The Miltary rank and file have pointly refused to do so and the Noblitity, clergy, and common people have pointly stated that they would refuse to fight on either side against the otherr side would more dishonorable then to stay out of it. I may be King but I can not wage an war that none of my people will surport. Honor, chivilary and the code of Teritora extremely important to Teritora's people and this government.

King Doran Tor Asha
Xanthal
13-03-2004, 20:47
We will not attempt to force you to take a side. It's up to you.
Zroin
13-03-2004, 20:59
OOC:Blast, there goes the crux that my brillent plan was based on, that Teritora would be dragged into an massive war while I crushed Tirah. Of cours, the Zoir warlord I hired, is unknownly to me, planning to let me wear out my fleet and Tirah fleet so he and his cohorts can plunder the Tirah homeworld, and the Zroin space colonies. But whats plan is perfect. At least they can't drag in their allies whom are fighting each other.
Teritora
14-03-2004, 00:13
OOC:My, my, isn't that an pity. You know the Teritorans haven't seriously upgraded their punishment system since the middle ages. I am sure the Zroin leaders will love their stay in Teritora after the war. Middle ages ideas of punishment are rather intresting after all.
Kecha
19-03-2004, 04:07
OOC: My delay in getting back is due to RL reasons. Sorry I'm late.
Teritora
19-03-2004, 04:19
OOC:Well its good your back, Intresting mess we got here though.
Kecha
19-03-2004, 04:27
OOC:Well its good your back, Intresting mess we got here though.

How so?
Teritora
19-03-2004, 04:37
OOC:Teritora was forced to offical delcare neutrality in the fight between its allies because of its confusing an complex system of honor. However King Doran plans on pulling every trick to help Kecha that can help, some down right devious as Kecha is an wartime comrade in covert and open miltary actions.