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Unlikely Combat Scenario #1 (Future/Modern tech RP)

Lunatic Retard Robots
04-03-2004, 02:59
I have come up with something that you might find interesting:

The Scenario

You (your fleet) are on a cold-temperate ocean planet (99% water, 1% land). The object is to destroy your opponents (or capture) and gain control of the planet for your own intents and purposes.

Of course, this will not be live-fire, all units will use a laser simulation system.

Now, here's the catch- you will be able to use all the futuretech weapons and shield systems you want. Dropships can be used as well. Provided that they can.....DUN DUN DUN......fit on moderntech ships!

In this RP, you will have to use the general structure of moderntech ships (minus weapons systems and shields) as your fleet. You can RP the orbital insertion of your fleet, but once all ships are landed, the space assets can no longer participate. While dropships can be used, futuretech combat aircraft cannot be used. Only modern and 20-30 years future combat aircraft can be used to support your fleet.

This means you could have a Kirov class battlecruiser with plasma cannons, space-grade torpedo launchers, and a fusion drive, but it would still look like a Kirov. Or you could have a Su-33 with a rotary railgun and ramjet ultra-manouverable high speed AAMs.

However, no ultra-heavy weapons are allowed. This means no mini-nuke launchers, planet killing munitions, NBC weapons (excluding plasma cannons) or other fleet-decimating weapons.

Also, whoever captures the spaceport on the small island near the equator gets to bring in reinforcements! *Gasp*

There is a catch here, too. :twisted:

You can only use....DUN DUN DUN....SHIPBOARD MARINES!!!!!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!1

The geography of the island is much like South Georgia, so therefore we will use it as a model for our RP.

As well as the island, there will be various rocky shoals and shallow spots, some of which contain strategically important sea bases, which will also have to be either captured or "destroyed."

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/durand12.jpg

The Luigi Durand de la Penne (above) will be in harbor at Eastnorthern Georgia, and whoever gets there first will be able to make off with this impressive ship.

Also in harbor will be two Audace class destroyers, but you can either go for the one LDdlP, which should be relatively easy go retreive, or go for the two Audaces which you will probably have to waste a few frigates to get.

http://www.victory-cruises.com/graphics1/s_g_map.jpg

The LDdlP destroyer will be moored offshore near Cape Buller. The two Audace class destroyers will be moored together in Stromeness bay, protected by four ASM launchers on land.

So, how does this sound? Anybody interested? Any suggestions?
Lunatic Retard Robots
05-03-2004, 00:19
Nobody is interested in this?
Foe Hammer
05-03-2004, 03:14
I think you might want to modify the rules a bit. The only close-to-modern vessels I have are GravShips, that look like modern naval structures.
I will send 30 GravShips, complete with fighter armament, and accompanied by their respective fleets, which are based on modern Battleship frames, except each with a Fusion reactor to power the propellers, the four Three-barrel 200mm Gauss cannons and numerous Gauss rifles. They have one Heavy-duty shield each, and other countermeasures. Anyway, there are 6 such vessels per each of the 30 fleets. So, that's 210 vessels total. Goddamn. I could COVER the island...
OMGZ t3H St4Tz!!1@
Length: 1,150 Feet
Width: 350 Feet
Height: 350 Feet
Crew: 2,502 (202 Officers, 746 Aircrew, 768 Marines, 786 Vessel Crew)
Armaments: Eight Double-barrel 155mm Cannons, Three 250mm Heavy Assault Cannons, 20 30mm Anti-Craft Guns, four Archer Missile Tubes
Aircraft: 52 A-20 Attack Fighters, 6 E-12 Sentry Air/Spacecraft, 10 B-20 Bomber/Fighters
Shields: One HDSS-940 Medium Vessel Shield
Power Source: One HEO-4 Plasma/Fusion Reactor
Engines: Two Pulsejet IV Fusion Engines
Total Cost: *Screams of terror* $30 Billion
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421448531/0.jpg
Foe Hammer
05-03-2004, 03:16
I think you might want to modify the rules a bit. The only close-to-modern vessels I have are GravShips, that look like modern naval structures, but they're still sort-of-future.
I will send 30 GravShips, complete with fighter armament, and accompanied by their respective fleets, which are based on modern Battleship frames, except each with a Fusion reactor to power the propellers, the four Three-barrel 200mm Gauss cannons and numerous Gauss rifles. They have one Heavy-duty shield each, and other countermeasures. Anyway, there are 6 such vessels per each of the 30 fleets. So, that's 210 vessels total. Goddamn. I could COVER the island...
OMGZ t3H St4Tz!!1@
Length: 1,150 Feet
Width: 350 Feet
Height: 350 Feet
Crew: 2,502 (202 Officers, 746 Aircrew, 768 Marines, 786 Vessel Crew)
Armaments: Eight Double-barrel 155mm Cannons, Three 250mm Heavy Assault Cannons, 20 30mm Anti-Craft Guns, four Archer Missile Tubes
Aircraft: 52 A-20 Attack Fighters, 6 E-12 Sentry Air/Spacecraft, 10 B-20 Bomber/Fighters
Shields: One HDSS-940 Medium Vessel Shield
Power Source: One HEO-4 Plasma/Fusion Reactor
Engines: Two Pulsejet IV Fusion Engines
Total Cost: *Screams of terror* $30 Billion
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421448531/0.jpg
Xanthal
05-03-2004, 05:03
Xanthal's military does not posess sufficient naval capability to contend here, but we will watch with intrest if it gets off the ground.
Steel Butterfly
05-03-2004, 05:26
Nobody is interested in this?

It does seem rather pointless....
Cyberutopia
05-03-2004, 05:59
((Taggishness on the same grounds as Xanthal.))
Wazzu
05-03-2004, 06:46
Foe, $30 billion is a lot? Hell, my FIGHTERS each cost half that. Well, ok, the top-of-the-line, for-aces-only fighters. The typical fighter costs a third that, and the light fighters a 30th. Not that that matters here....


LRR, this sounds like it could be a fun little exercize. I couldn't use it as my nations real history, but I could do an "alternate-timeline" sort of deal. Wazzu still uses a wet navy, and in the past had quite a few ships that would qualify quite well (and still make for an interesting battle).

I'll need some time to go through old files, collect the stats, clean them up, and put them together...but I think we can make it a fun RP (especially considering that no ones nation, or even their fleet will be in any real danger).
Lunatic Retard Robots
06-03-2004, 01:34
Nobody is interested in this?

It does seem rather pointless....

THIS HAS NO MILITARY VALUE WHATSOEVER THIS IS JUST FOR FUN COME HERE AND HAVE FUN IN AN UNLIKELY COMBAT SCENARIO DO YOU PEOPLE GET THE MESSAGE NOT ALL THINGS NEED TO HAVE A POINT THIS IS FOR FUN AND INTERESTINGNESS HENCE THE ITALIAN DESTROYERS AND SEA FORTRESSES COME HERE TO HAVE FUN NOT AS A SERIOUS MILITARY EXTERSIZE

Wazzu, happy to have you on board. You can have the picking of start positions. (All start positions must be at least 10,000 miles from the island.)

Foe Hammer, sure you can come. Just leave some of your ships behind because those numbers aren't exactly appropriate for this RP.

Everyone: Since you can obviously afford small moderntech ships why don't you just say you have some and leave it at that? This is not meant to be serious. If it were serious I would not give out free italian destroyers.

But in this RP it is for fun. (LRR sailors will be dressed as pirates for the occasion)

http://www.umgass.org/images/posters/pirates1997s.jpg

A picture of Admiral Lorman McAulliffe.
Wazzu
06-03-2004, 02:43
Yea...but that doesn't answer my questions....

Bump.
Lunatic Retard Robots
06-03-2004, 03:15
Yea...but that doesn't answer my questions....

Bump.

What questions?
Wazzu
06-03-2004, 04:50
Yea...but that doesn't answer my questions....

Bump.

What questions?

Hmmm, odd that, I had some questions in there. Maybe they were only in my origional post...the one the forums killed. Here they are again.

Is there a fleet limit? Maybe a limit to the total number of ships? Or the total number of each kind of ship? Or the total length or tonnage of all the ships? And does this limit include support ships?

And you said no spacedy tech...what about satelites? If so, what are the limits on satelites? A certain, limited number? No weapons? Something else entirely?
SilveryMinnow
06-03-2004, 05:33
I dunno if grav ships would be considered 20-30 years into the future. Railguns maybe. (I.E. Gauss Rifles)

What the heck, if its just for fun count me in LRR.

[code:1:a5bd226bc7] The Republic of SilveryMinnow in the interest of maintaining a strong national defense through wargames. Accepts your proposal for a joint exercise. We list what may be considered modernistic weapons for your review.

EMP Rifles. Capable of throwing projectiles at near light speed.
Self Contained Exoskeleton Body Armor. Capable of deflecting 7.62mm rounds without harm to wearer.
Charged Particle Beam Portible Radiation units.
Stealth Aircraft with Active Paint and Capable of Achieving speeds of Mach 10.
EMP Field Artillery.
State of the Art Electronic Shadow Imaging systems on Craft and vehicles.
Stealth Littoral WaterCraft.

or... could just go with the stuff available nowadays.

Forces would include...
Three task force fleets of 16 ships each.
1 ARG fleet Marines w/ Lockheed Martin Sea Blade Littoral Craft.
Support Fleet.

AirForce comprising 5 wings
1 wing support

1 Division Armored
1 Division Mech
1 Division Light, Including Recon and Support.
12 batteries medium field guns
6 batteries heavy

4 wings Assault and Transport Helicopters.

If this is acceptable please acknowledge.

The Republic of SilveryMinnow
Secretary of State
Colin Pike[/code:1:a5bd226bc7]
Foe Hammer
06-03-2004, 05:55
"FHSV Second Amendment, begin approach."

"Aye, Second Amendment out."

The mighty Eagle-class dropped from orbit around the large blue planet. She majestically angled her prow as the plasma streaked off of her hull. 14 Emergency thrusters flaring, the Nimitz-sized vessel slowed to a hover over the water as her Anti-Grav systems kicked in. The Second Amendment gradually lowered itself until it touched down in the water. A fleet of similar Anti-Grav Carriers descended, lowering the Battleships into the water.
SilveryMinnow
07-03-2004, 04:15
OOC: Can I just have my forces on the planet, or do I have to write something like; Using transdimensional Philotic chains to create a Instantaneous Photonic transferance of matter. The SilveryMinnow Invasion force appears on the planet surface.

Also it would be better I think LRR if the players just used the map to position and you could decide who see's who. Then let the players take it from there. We could telegram our movements and positions in turn.

Waddya Tink?
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-03-2004, 04:54
Yea...but that doesn't answer my questions....

Bump.

What questions?

Hmmm, odd that, I had some questions in there. Maybe they were only in my origional post...the one the forums killed. Here they are again.

Is there a fleet limit? Maybe a limit to the total number of ships? Or the total number of each kind of ship? Or the total length or tonnage of all the ships? And does this limit include support ships?

And you said no spacedy tech...what about satelites? If so, what are the limits on satelites? A certain, limited number? No weapons? Something else entirely?

Fleet limit, er......keep it "reasonable." That means no 2,000 Kirovs or some outrageous number of ships. Say around 100-150 ships, no heavier than the Jhare Viking (a really big ore carrier).

You probably shouldn't have any more than 15 really big ships (like a Kirov or Nimitz), but as for smaller ships, knock yourself out.

As for space, no space stuff. This makes it devilishly complicated to do things, because you have to rely on the old slide rules and navigational charts instead of your fancy-shmancy GPS. 'Tis for sooth!

AWACS are in, though.

Silveryminnow, do whatever you find most best.

The planet, FYI, is about 1/8th of the earth's gravity.

IC:

Over the surface of the planet, several very large dropships apear from orbit. They tote some very strange cargo, red-bottomed canoe-shaped objects.

"Uhhh....roger this is Firebert 1 calling Cocaine, do you copy, Eric?"
"Yup. Preparing to drop."

The dropships drop to within a foot of the waves, and deposit the two Kirovs that they each carry. 3 more kirovs and 5 slavas, as well as a trio of invincible class carriers are dropped into the water. Then comes the menagerie of smaller ships. Krivak class frigates and the new super-cool stealth frigates, as well as Sovremennys are deposited on the water. Soon, a sizable force has been assembled. Light dropships can be seen on the helipads of the helicopter-capable ships.

From the top mast of the Baba O'Riley, admiral Lorman McAuliffe surveys the horizon with his spyglass.

"Is the fleet assembled???"
"Aye, captain. All zee ships are in position."

The battlegroup begins to sail in circles around its drop position, and then, after consulting the charts, heads towards the nearest of the sea forts, hoping to establish a base of operations before going for the Luigi Durand De La Penne destroyer.

(The sea forts are all in missile range of eachother.)
07-03-2004, 05:27
:? Just Curious... Is this some sort of private online RPG? If so, how do incorporate all of the ships and stuff into it? I know you probably don't want to explain all this to an incompetent noob but if you had some spare time maybe you could explain the general concept? By the way, i sounds incredibly interesting but I couldn't understand how to play... :?:
Wazzu
07-03-2004, 19:51
Wazzu Reserve Fleet, North Sea, Year 2312

How odd, thought Seaman Recruit Mark Wein, that I should be fishing with the Captain off the back of the boat. I never figured this would come from my Navy career.

The Reserve Fleet was more then a couple centuries old. Refitted and mixed with more modern ships, it could still be an effective escort, but it was due to be destroyed. The new mammoth submersible amphibous assault ships and their sub escorts were comming online in greater number. Soon, there would be little need for these old tin cans. Wein wondered if the newer surface fleet would be scrapped too.

Then he spotted something strange...something was comming over the nearby cliffs...something big...OH SHIT!

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/EtienneBlythe(DockingTime).jpg

To the Wein's credit, he didn't say it aloud in front of his Captain.


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Commodore Samson awoke next to his Domestic Fleet double, Commodore Blake in a bright white room. He sat up, cautiously, and looked around.

"Good afternoon Commodore." came a voice to the side. A young man wearing a silver-trimmed flat-black uniform (a lot like Wazzu's) was speaking from a meticulusly clean white armchair.

That couldn't be right, thought Commodore Samson, He is wearing Admiralty stripes...he couldn't be older then thirty. "Who are you? Where am I?"

The man in the chair smiled. "That proves it. The movies of the last couple thousand years have been correct." Commodore Samson's face distorted in confusion, the Admiral chuckled. "I am Admiral Meson and you are aboard the Timeship Justice."

"Timeship? Last couple thousand years? Bolony."

"Who else could I be, where else could this be, when?"

"It could be a Yut trick."

"You know better Commodore."

Samson took a breath...he did indeed know better, but this didn't make any sense....

"Then why have you brought me...when?"

"Sometime later, I can't say when. Your here to fight a battle, a mock battle. It should prove entertaining for us, instructive for you, and profitible for our common nation."

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Hours later, Commodore Blake was also awake, and Admiral Meson had the two convinced of everything. They found that many of those under their charge at also been briefed.

10 Wazzus, including the two Commodores, took a walk through a huge, bright white room. Their ships stood upon pillars as many flying figures zoomed about.

"Seamen, what you see here are modifications to the Reserve and Domestic fleets. All modifications, except some of the simulator equipment are modern to your time. You won't have satelites or space access, so they include a multitude of sensors. I'm afraid that will put you at a disadvantage.

"With so few aircraft, you will also be at a disadvantage in the air. That is one area I am afraid we can not remedy."

"Admiral," asked an escort carrier commander, "if we can't acheive air superiority, what good are surface ships?"

"Plenty good." Meson responded. "As near as we can tell, your primary advantages will be your armor and your missiles. You should be able to maintain airspace control around your larger battlegroups. You also have a fair few Marines and a pretty good subsurface group, what with the Banshees."

"Whats our mission?"

"To capture this island," Meson stopped and a large 2D screen appeared in midair, "And destroy the enemy fleets in simulated combat."

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Work and explinations continued over the course of the next few days. The crews of the two fleets grew anxious, and the Commodores had many discussions on how to split their fleets. Eventually, it was decided that the more cautious Samson would control the slower ships, escorted by a few newer ones. Commodore Blake would take control of many of the newer ships as a quick assault fleet.

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OOC: Origionally, I wanted to make a fleet designed for this mission. It would have resulted in much fewer ships and easier RP for me. But I decided that the better way was not always the easy way.

So I took two fleets that I used a long time ago and threw in a few extra cargo ships and submarines (the latter I did not keep records on, but always considered them "present"). The ships involved are as such:

Capital Ships:
-1 Refitted Rotenfeld Kirov-Class Battlecruiser
-2 Refitted Texarnica Elf-Class Amphibous Ships
-2 Tri-Hull Amphibous Ships


Ships of the Line:
-2 Refitted Domestic Monohull Cargo Ships (Escort Carriers)
-3 Domestic Tri-Hull Cruisers
-1 Refitted Western Asia Tri-Hull Cruiser
-6 Domestic Tri-Hull Destroyers
-2 Refitted Western Asia Tri-Hull Destroyers
-1 Refitted Ruhr Stealth Destroyer

Escort Ships
-2 Domestic Tri-Hull Escort Carriers (Cruisers)
-2 Refitted Domestic Monohull Cargo Ships (Escort Carriers)
-10 Domestic Tri-Hull Frigates
-1 Domestic Tri-Hull Command Ship (Frigate)
-2 Refitted Wazzu Frigates
-2 Domestic Tri-Hull Arsonel Ships (Frigate)


Attack Boats:
-16 Domestic Tri-Hull Hydrofoil Corvettes
-64 Domestic Tri-Hull Hydrofoil PT Boats


Support Ships:
-6 Refitted Commercial Freighters (Cruisers)
-2 Domestic Catamaran Submarine Tenders (Cruisers)
-4 Domestic Tri-Hull Quick Replenishment Ships (Cruisers)
-2 Domestic Tri-Hull Fleet Support Ships (Frigates)


Submarines:
-4 Fusion-Powered Attack Submarines
-8 Fission-Battery Powered Attack Submarines


A lot of ships...but most (80) qualify as boats. Only 5 are very large ships, everything else is the size of a cruiser or smaller.

The exact make-up of the two Commodores' fleets will be slowly made available as the RP progresses. I hope also to be able to start putting specs and pics up on a simple, text-based webpage.
Wazzu
07-03-2004, 22:13
Captain Petra Longbottom stood with her watch crew in the crows nest of the WS-CVE (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/CVE.html) Right. She loved it up here, the air was fresh and the view great...even on this alien world. But she knew she would soon be too busy to climb the mast. With the comming manuvers, she would doubtlessly be held up in the CIC, deep inside the ships hull.

Behind her, the slower monohull ships and a token escort fell back, able to make only 25 knots they wouldn't keep up with Commodore Blake's Flotilla. But she felt sorry for any who opposed that force of older ships, in many ways, it was much better armed then her own. Indeed, her own didn't have a single landing ship among them.

There were other reasons to re-split the two fleets. Besides the presence of two Commodores, the presence of the small attack boats were an area of concern. Should a sudden and violent storm appear, they could be swamped. They would be safer once they reached the shallows near the main island she had been shown not too long ago...or was it quite a distance into the future?

A capacitor whined as it launched a Nighthawk Drone (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/Nighthawk.html). Bound for high altitudes, the drone would help pick up any approaching enemies...and help in the search for land. Without it, the task force would be relegated to dead-reckoning. For all they knew without a satelite network was that the island lay somewhere East-Southeast.

And the quick-fleet rushed forward, maintaining 48 knots....
Lunatic Retard Robots
08-03-2004, 00:49
On the bridge of the Baba O'Riley, Who's Next blasts from the ship's speakers as the kirov moves towards one of the sea forts. On the sides are the Pinball Wizard and the Slowhand. The three massive retrofitted Kirovs maintain a steady 30 knots with their brand-new fusion engines. The gunners practice with their new plasma cannons and improved ASMs. Also of particular interest is the shield generator placed on the battlecruiser. Also near them are the three Invincible-class carriers, which provide air cover with their Yak-141s, and recon ability with their long-range drones.

Spread out around the Kirovs is the rest of the fleet, consisting of mostly Sovremenny class in the destroyer category, but a wide range of frigates, Krivaks making up the majority of that group. Also in the fleet are a group of 10 out of the LRRN's 25 Vosper class corvettes, excellent all-around ships, capable of launching SAMs, ASMs, and torpedos, each carrying a Ka-27 MOD MOD helicopter, as well as two combined defense mounts (MOD).

However, while this large group would probably be very easy to detect, as it heads in towards the group of sea forts intending to capture them, the Slavas and a group of Lafayette class frigates head off towards the island, with the intent to harrass the other ships in the area. They make fast speed towards the island, and launch several AWACS UAVs.

Aboard the LRRSV Bangladesh, a slava MOD MOD class missile cruiser, the UAV operator picks up some things.

"Contact bearing south at .7 mach, high altitude, probably an AWACS drone."
"Preparing missile launch."
"We have a lock."
"Launching missile."

The fleet launches a simulated "missile" in the direction of the Wazzu AWACS. While the SA-21 shipboard anti-aircraft missile was designed to bring down bombers in the 10-150km range, the missile would be guided along to the much smaller target by the UAV. A high-altitude trajectory would allow for a much greater range. Immediately after the missile is launched, the small assault group takes a new heading, hoping to avoid detection by Wazzu ships, while getting closer to the supposed location of the Wazzu fleet. Also embarked on the small group is a force of 300 marines, with the job of taking the island.

Back at the main fleet, the ships soon reach radar range of the sea forts.

"Sea forts, on scope."
"Any occupied?"
"Nope."
"Let's blow up one, for good measure."
"How about that one?"

The Baba O'Riley launches all five live SS-N-19 ASMs at one of the forts, and demolishes a good deal of it.

After this is done, marines are landed on each of the seven remaining forts, as well as sailors, and the ASM systems on the forts are brought on-line.

LRR Fleet:

3x Kirov MOD MOD Missile Cruisers
7x Slava MOD MOD Missile Cruisers
3x Invincible Class MOD Carriers

12x Sovremenny MOD MOD Destroyers
1x Type 42 MOD MOD Destroyer

23x Krivak MOD MOD Frigates
10x Lafayette MOD MOD Frigates
6x Bremen MOD MOD Frigates
2x Broadsword MOD MOD Frigates

10x Vosper MOD Corvettes
Wazzu
08-03-2004, 04:24
"Captain, Drone, Land-Ho." the drone operator responded to his Captain, "mapping now."

Data flowed, and a 3D construct of the island, at least the parts the drone could see, started to form itself over a holo-projector in the CIC of the WS-CVE Right.

For over three minutes, the drone mapped, sending out a uni-directional signal to it's carrier, which was shared with the rest of the two fleets. The lead fleet changed course due East towards the North tip of the island, and the Right launched a second drone.

Then it happened.

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Aboard the WS-CF Farseer

"Commodore, Comm, Right reports small contact comming Southbound over drone horizon...it's emitting."

"WS-CE Dagger, Command, target but hold fire, lets see if they want to exchange lo-"

"SHIT!" Apparantly, the comm officer didn't have the same presence of mind as one of his fellow seamen.

"What?!" the Captain asked hurridly, but display showed it all.

On the 3D realtime map, a new contact was rushing towards the Wazzu drone.

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As the OS abord the Right launched flares and put the drone into a dive, orders were flowing from the stealthy command ship Farseer nearby.

WCE Dagger, intercept Drone.

Having targeted the drone earlier, the Dagger launched without hesitation. The kinetic missile quickly changed from Rocket, to Ram, to SCRam powered flight as it approached the enemy UCAV. At this range, the large AA missile would reach only 80% of it's full mach 32 velocity before it detonated in front of the drone, turning into a deadly shower of thousands of depleted uranium pellets and caltraps.

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The Wazzu drone dived, throwing out 10 flares. The virtual enemy missile, had 1 in 11 chance of picking the drone...and missed. But it was a large missile, and had picked a flare too close by.

In space, a future operator "simulated" the effects of the missile's blast tearing the drone apart and sending it into the sea. In reality, the drone simply dissappeared from the field of combat, haven been taken someplace, ?sometime? else.


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That drone came from the North...but was its path a decoy? Is the enemy North, or East? Commodore Blake pondered to himself. Either way, my action needs to be the same. "FleetComm," he spoke up, "ask Commodore Samson to take his fleet South of us, to the middle part of the island. It won't take him much longer to get there, and there is less chance for detection."

"Yessir." the fleet communications officier replied, and got on it.

"ForeGroupComm," Blake continued, "have our boats high-tail it the rest of the way, and give them permission, not orders, to engage anyone they see on the way."

"Yessir." responded the foreward group communications officer, feeling sorry for whoever got in their way.

"And Fore, give orders to immediately fire on any aircraft that comes over the horizon."

"Yessir." she repeated.


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"They want us to WHAT?" PT boat driver Gary Larsen asked his (very liberal) commander.

"To go ahead. We don't need to stick around with these slowpokes."

"But what if someone is out there?"

"Heh, you'd better stay on your toes then."

Larsen looked dejected, but responded with a "yessir."

"Look, while we are on foil, no submarine can bother us, and there are a whole lot of us so any surface ship or aircraft that does will get a pounding, and the Corvs are watching our back with ECM, AND Dagger has our back, sides, and front with OtH radar all the way there. We'll at least see anyone comming."

"We have orders to engage?" Seaman Larsen asked incredulously.

"Permission. We can run too if we want."

And it was true, on foils the corvettes and PT boats could run at over 80 knots...but who would want to?
SilveryMinnow
08-03-2004, 05:02
Littoral Stealth ARG fleet moves in and offloads in a nighttime beach landing 5000 marines with Light to medium Arms and gear. (20 Littoral craft involved.) Landing takes place after Seal teams have reconned area of small bay on west side of island, South of Cumberland Bay. Landing will take 2 hours. The marines will establish a battleline across the island extending to Royal Bay.

(Seal Team based on Los Angeles class Sub.) More Seal Teams will arrive by helicopter and be dropped off at strategic points of island. (Not specified at this time.) Missions will include Reconnaisance, infiltration, and disruption of enemy units.

Air Calvary Units consisting of Light Infantry, Green Berets, and Scout Units will be deployed as follows. Mission secure deep water port at Dygalska Fjord. Secure Cape Vahsel. Escorted by 1 wing Apache Longbow helicopters.

Location of AWAC's, Battle, and Support Fleets will be telegrammed to LRR for comfirmation.

Successful mission objectives will initiate phase 2 of operation.
Wazzu
08-03-2004, 06:49
Littoral Stealth ARG fleet moves in and offloads in a nighttime beach landing 5000 marines with Light to medium Arms and gear. (20 Littoral craft involved.) Landing takes place after Seal teams have reconned area of small bay on west side of island, South of Cumberland Bay. Landing will take 2 hours. The marines will establish a battleline across the island extending to Royal Bay.

(Seal Team based on Los Angeles class Sub.) More Seal Teams will arrive by helicopter and be dropped off at strategic points of island. (Not specified at this time.) Missions will include Reconnaisance, infiltration, and disruption of enemy units.

Air Calvary Units consisting of Light Infantry, Green Berets, and Scout Units will be deployed as follows. Mission secure deep water port at Dygalska Fjord. Secure Cape Vahsel. Escorted by 1 wing Apache Longbow helicopters.

Location of AWAC's, Battle, and Support Fleets will be telegrammed to LRR for comfirmation.

Successful mission objectives will initiate phase 2 of operation.

OOC: Psssssst. Cumberland Bay is on the East side of the island. The "NEWS" trick doesn't work well for remembering coordinates. Instead, remember "WE".

When looking North, a compass always spells "we" (as in, "you and I").

I take it you've landed in the East then?
Lunatic Retard Robots
09-03-2004, 01:49
OCC: I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to make a few small changes to the map. While south georgia will remain the largest island, the planet will now be dotted with small islands (think shetland, orkneys, a scottish landscape, that kind of thing. Most will have an airport, but the only one capable of landing large dropships or aircraft is on south georgia.

IC:

The main LRR battlegroup continues to sail around. With the sea forts in their hands, they had a good place to conduct repairs on their ships. However, by nightfall, the ships are back on the move. However, the fleet splits into two groups. The main group, led by the Slowhand and Pinball Wizard head towards south georgia, with a large group of frigates and destroyers, the island being about two days sail away, by their calculations.

Meanwhile, the second group heads to a small archapelago of islands about a day's sail from the sea forts, at speed. They would set up a small base there, and hopefully be able to airlift in some Ystad MOD heavy landing craft, with very good seakeeping characteristics.

The Baba O'Riley heads off towards the islands with a small group in tow, including all the Bremen class frigates, four vospers, and one carrier, among others.

Meanwhile, back aboard the group near South Georgia, the UAV operator on the Bangladesh watches the intercept drone close with the AWACS drone.

"Uh-oh. Performing evasive manouvers!"

The drone ducks towards the water, but the intercept drone rates as a hit to the drone, and "Destroyed" flashes on the UAV control screen before going back to the regular navigational systems. The UAV operator brings the little drone back towards the Slava, and after a short flight, aided by the dive from high altitude, impacts the recovery net on the cruiser. Another drone is launched, but is put on a very long and complex flight path to bring it around to the Wazzu fleet from another direction than the original one.

However, by this time, the Slava and Lafayette group is up near the Willis Islands. About 100km off the islands, they are within radar range of the ships. The stealthy Lafayettes are able to get in closer, avoiding detection under the cover of darkness.

From the sides of each of the 10 frigates, CB-90 assault boats are lowered into the water. Marines climb down cargo nets and into the craft, each carrying 30 marines, 20 inside with 10 being towed in rigid raiders behind the craft.

The assault boats head off towards the island. Those unfortunate enough to be picked to travel in the rigid raiders had been given wet suits beforehand, and would now need them. The 76km trip from the Lafayettes to shore would not be pleasant.

Back aboard the Emile Zola, a Lafayette class frigate, the radar picks up the stormfront.

"Heavy electric cloud cover, about 150km out and closing."
"What are the current sea conditions?"
"Waves of five feet, wind 28 knots."

Meanwhile, aboard the lead CB-90, the shoreline becomes clear.

"Land ahead. Get the troops ready."

Outside, the gunner flashes a message to the other CB-90s. The assault boats immediately pick up speed. The rigid raiders also start up their electric motors. The gunner on the lead CB-90, the only one with a radar good enough to measure wave height towards the beach, flashes out another message.

"WAVE 9 F COAST."

The Rigid raider-borne marines untie their teathers to the assault boats, and speed inland towards the beach.

Aboard one black-painted raider, chosen to be the leader, the coxswain shouts instructions to the wet and miserable marines.

"HOLD ON!!!!! BIG WAVE!!!!!"

The rigid raider plows over the wave, landing in the water below, followed by the other rigid raiders. The CB-90s take a slower approach to their landing site, and they can be seen heading towards the coast about 2km away.

"OK, WE'RE ALMOST THERE!!!!"

The rigid raider nears the shore, riding on a large wave. It lands on the rocky beach of Church bay, along with the other rigid raiders. The marines scurry off the boats, before other waves swamp the small craft. The 100 marines held in the raiders run towards the more elevated rocks several yards away, and climb up onto them, and onto the grassy fields above. They are wet and cold, but where they need to be.

"Snacks, anyone?"

The coxswain of one of the raiders pulls out a bag of various foodstuffs. They make a 'camp' above the bay, consisting of a cluster of sleeping bags, with GPMGs located at strategic positions.

Further down, the CB-90s offload. Theydump their troops off on a rock formation, and scurry off into the night.
Lunatic Retard Robots
09-03-2004, 01:49
OCC: I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to make a few small changes to the map. While south georgia will remain the largest island, the planet will now be dotted with small islands (think shetland, orkneys, a scottish landscape, that kind of thing. Most will have an airport, but the only one capable of landing large dropships or aircraft is on south georgia.

IC:

The main LRR battlegroup continues to sail around. With the sea forts in their hands, they had a good place to conduct repairs on their ships. However, by nightfall, the ships are back on the move. However, the fleet splits into two groups. The main group, led by the Slowhand and Pinball Wizard head towards south georgia, with a large group of frigates and destroyers, the island being about two days sail away, by their calculations.

Meanwhile, the second group heads to a small archapelago of islands about a day's sail from the sea forts, at speed. They would set up a small base there, and hopefully be able to airlift in some Ystad MOD heavy landing craft, with very good seakeeping characteristics.

The Baba O'Riley heads off towards the islands with a small group in tow, including all the Bremen class frigates, four vospers, and one carrier, among others.

Meanwhile, back aboard the group near South Georgia, the UAV operator on the Bangladesh watches the intercept drone close with the AWACS drone.

"Uh-oh. Performing evasive manouvers!"

The drone ducks towards the water, but the intercept drone rates as a hit to the drone, and "Destroyed" flashes on the UAV control screen before going back to the regular navigational systems. The UAV operator brings the little drone back towards the Slava, and after a short flight, aided by the dive from high altitude, impacts the recovery net on the cruiser. Another drone is launched, but is put on a very long and complex flight path to bring it around to the Wazzu fleet from another direction than the original one.

However, by this time, the Slava and Lafayette group is up near the Willis Islands. About 100km off the islands, they are within radar range of the ships. The stealthy Lafayettes are able to get in closer, avoiding detection under the cover of darkness.

From the sides of each of the 10 frigates, CB-90 assault boats are lowered into the water. Marines climb down cargo nets and into the craft, each carrying 30 marines, 20 inside with 10 being towed in rigid raiders behind the craft.

The assault boats head off towards the island. Those unfortunate enough to be picked to travel in the rigid raiders had been given wet suits beforehand, and would now need them. The 76km trip from the Lafayettes to shore would not be pleasant.

Back aboard the Emile Zola, a Lafayette class frigate, the radar picks up the stormfront.

"Heavy electric cloud cover, about 150km out and closing."
"What are the current sea conditions?"
"Waves of five feet, wind 28 knots."

Meanwhile, aboard the lead CB-90, the shoreline becomes clear.

"Land ahead. Get the troops ready."

Outside, the gunner flashes a message to the other CB-90s. The assault boats immediately pick up speed. The rigid raiders also start up their electric motors. The gunner on the lead CB-90, the only one with a radar good enough to measure wave height towards the beach, flashes out another message.

"WAVE 9 F COAST."

The Rigid raider-borne marines untie their teathers to the assault boats, and speed inland towards the beach.

Aboard one black-painted raider, chosen to be the leader, the coxswain shouts instructions to the wet and miserable marines.

"HOLD ON!!!!! BIG WAVE!!!!!"

The rigid raider plows over the wave, landing in the water below, followed by the other rigid raiders. The CB-90s take a slower approach to their landing site, and they can be seen heading towards the coast about 2km away.

"OK, WE'RE ALMOST THERE!!!!"

The rigid raider nears the shore, riding on a large wave. It lands on the rocky beach of Church bay, along with the other rigid raiders. The marines scurry off the boats, before other waves swamp the small craft. The 100 marines held in the raiders run towards the more elevated rocks several yards away, and climb up onto them, and onto the grassy fields above. They are wet and cold, but where they need to be.

"Snacks, anyone?"

The coxswain of one of the raiders pulls out a bag of various foodstuffs. They make a 'camp' above the bay, consisting of a cluster of sleeping bags, with GPMGs located at strategic positions.

Further down, the CB-90s offload. Theydump their troops off on a rock formation, and scurry off into the night.
SilveryMinnow
09-03-2004, 06:52
OOC: Negative, landed west side. South of Cumberlandbay. Since there are no topigraphical landmarks or longitude/latitude gridmarks. Note West to East battleline being created from landing point. Triangulate Cumberland Bay/Royal Bay with third point to discover landing site. 3rd Angle will point direction.

IC: Having delivered landing force. Littoral Craft depart bay area.
Estimated time for Marine Invasion force to establish battleline through Jungle, Vegetation will thin out at higher elevations, distance of 25km, Estimated time at 38 hours. (OOC:Reference securing Haitian border by U.S. Rangers.)

OOC:Relying on LRR for info regarding detection of forces and timetable coordination. Unilateral Deployment at 0000 hrs? P.S. How bout sum gridlines? I don't have a website.
Wazzu
09-03-2004, 06:58
OOC: You couldn't possibly make a quickie map in paint or something, could you? It might help us battle ito out.

That said, I have only a "short" post tonight (no real RP, just troop movements). I had a short night last night, and a long day today. I need some sleeeeeeeeeeep. :)


NOTE: Summary at bottom.

EDIT: Changed post due to west/east landing clarification.

***IC***

Either the LRR fleets had missjudged where the Wazzu fleets were, or they had changed course again, because it wasn't too long until the little sounding survey drone skipped lowly by the North end of the island.

Not that the Wazzuians would ever know. They had never really known where any of the LRR ships were, and had only guessed "North" or "East" of the island.

But the drone passed and circled around the far side of the island, gaining altitude to pick up where the last had left off.

It wasn't until the swarm of attack boats had spotted land that the drone picked up SilveryMinnow troops disembarking on the island. It was enough to put both Commodores Blake and Samson in a mutual fit. Something had to be done, and FAST.

A plan quickly came into being. It was dangerous, but it just might work. Events were set into motion.



Wazzu Assault Fleet, 28 hours from landfall

Aboard the 4 massive amphibous assault ships, by far the largest ships, troops stirred, readied, and boarded transports.

The two Wazzu domestic tri-hull amphibous assault ships had the fewest marines, but also the largest deck area. Each was large enough to carry one of the gigantic M-300 VTOL transport jets. The best troopers available were placed on these, 300 on each(600), and sent under escort of 40 fully armed Adventurer II VTOL attack aircraft (think them it as a slightly improved harrier).

All four ships had helecopters though, a combined total of 60 transport and 40 attack gunships. These choppers would arrive late, and low on fuel, but there was no help for it. As many troops as possible would have to be sent as quickly as possible if the operations goals were to succede. Through the transport choppers, another 600 total were sent.

Except for drones, the decks of the four assault ships would be bare of aircraft until they got near the island.


Wazzu Quick Fleet, 8 hours from landfall.

The forward fleet had only two escort carriers for air-based cover. They could not afford to send everything, and had no landing troops, but they would be sending much of what they had on the gamble.

30 of their combined 40 Lightning II Supersonic Fighter-Bombers launched from their decks...but they did not hightail it to the island. Instead, they would fly in slowly, just forward of two widely spread sensor-drones. Their slow movements would be timed to coincide with....

Quick-Fleet Attack Boat Swarm, Northern tip of South Georgia Island.

There were 80 attack boats in all, 64 PT style hydrofoil boats led in groups of four by each of 1 hydrofoil corvette. 2 of these groups wrapped around the point and headed down the East coast instead. 4 headed out in various Northerly directions, searching for an enemy. The last 10 headed down the West coast towards the detected landing troops. Had they known of the stealth craft, they would have all stayed together....


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Purely OOC (since no one is near enough to see Wazzu ships/aircraft at the moment).

This summary of arrivals is so that we can work our storylines together. I've given detailed information of the first only (hey, this is taking too long!). I give it in three sets, I would like to do at least one post for each as each adds a new element to the battle for South Georgia Island. This will probably slow down game-time a little.

1: ETA 47 minutes: The drones and Lightning II's will reach the landing troops at the same time as the 10 corvette/PT-boat groups.

-The drones are to stay slightly behind, giving out information to the fighters and attack boats from (what they hope is) a safe distance.

-The 30 Lightning II's are loaded with a fair number of Air-to-Air RRS missiles (and a couple "shock" missiles each). Their mission is air superiority only. They are to acheive air superiority and loiter over the island airspace as long as possible. NOTE: Lightning II's are very fast, quite manuverable, and have a large internal weapons bay AND wing hardpoints...they are NOT stealthy).

-The 10 attack boat squadrons are to hit any enemy ships they find to do maximum damage, then retreat to a safe (non-claimed) harbor before the storm hits. [[For this reason, I would like to RP this part of the combat before the storm hits.]]


2: ETA 1 hour, 21 minutes: The two M-300's, and their 40 Adventurer II escorts will arrive at the island. NOTE: The Adventurer II's are basic VTOL attack craft. Think of them as modern Harriers...like the JSF but with electronic-warfare equipment (but they are NOT stealthy). The M-300s are basically just very large VTOL transports.


3: ETA 4 hours: The 60 Zancudo Transport Helecopters and their 40 Inca Attack Helecopter escort will arrive at the island.
Wazzu
09-03-2004, 07:34
OOC: Negative, landed west side. South of Cumberlandbay. Since there are no topigraphical landmarks or longitude/latitude gridmarks. Note West to East battleline being created from landing point. Triangulate Cumberland Bay/Royal Bay with third point to discover landing site. 3rd Angle will point direction.

IC: Having delivered landing force. Littoral Craft depart bay area.
Estimated time for Marine Invasion force to establish battleline through Jungle, Vegetation will thin out at higher elevations, distance of 25km, Estimated time at 38 hours. (OOC:Reference securing Haitian border by U.S. Rangers.)

Relying on LRR for info regarding detection of forces and timetable coordination. Unilateral Deployment at 0000 hrs?


OOC: As for detection, LRR and I have been just free-form RPing detection...keeping in mind that if you can detect someone, they can probably detect you too.

My opinion on stealth is simple.

1: Any non-stealth aircraft or ship can be detected as soon as it is in visual range of another unit's radar. You didn't bother with stealth? Guess what? Every blind-man's dog can see you.

2: Active sensors (like active pinging sonar, radar, or similar) have the greatest range, but are also immediately detectable and trackable by an enemy (they are giving off radiation or sound afterall). Assume they have the greatest ranges but must get within 3-7 kilometers to detect stealth craft. Ya gotta get close...really really close. And they know your'a commin'.

3: Passive sensors (like thermal imaging, passive sonar, and radar detectors) have much less range, but do NOT give away their position (so they are found on stealth craft). Assume they have 50-75% of active sensor ranges and must get within 1-3 kilometers to detect another stealth craft. SIR! Stealthy unit off the port bow! They just saw us too!

4: Any stealth aircraft, ship, or submarine immediately gives away it's position when it fires (you can see the missile/projectile/whatever afterall). However, while this tells you where it is when it fires, it doesn't allow for continuous tracking. Sir, it dissappeared again, it could be anywhere in this general area...no way to fire back unless we get closer.


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As for time, I think I set a baseline with my post. We can just work off that now if you like, it'll be easier then going back and starting 0000 at fleet deployment.
SilveryMinnow
09-03-2004, 07:37
OOC:Would be easier to track everyones movements. Lockheed Martin Seablade Littoral Craft are Stealth Craft.

IC: Deployed AWAC's reports detection of nearest landing forces. Can confirm with information already sent to LRR.

[Tech note:It contains a radar subsystem that permits surveillance from the Earth's surface up into the stratosphere, over land or water. The radar has a range of more than 200 miles (320 kilometers) for low-flying targets and farther for aerospace vehicles flying at medium to high altitudes. The radar combined with an identification friend or foe subsystem can look down to detect, identify and track enemy and friendly low-flying aircraft by eliminating ground clutter returns that confuse other radar systems. Other major subsystems in the E-3 are navigation, communications and computers (data processing). Consoles display computer-processed data in graphic and tabular format on video screens. Console operators perform surveillance, identification, weapons control, battle management and communications functions. The radar and computer subsystems on the E-3 Sentry can gather and present broad and detailed battlefield information. Data is collected as events occur. This includes position and tracking information on enemy aircraft and ships, and location and status of friendly aircraft and naval vessels.]
Wazzu
09-03-2004, 08:06
OOC:Would be easier to track everyones movements. Lockheed Martin Seablade Littoral Craft are Stealth Craft.

OOC: Imagine putting on your best night-camo to prowl around undetected. Then imagine that while doing this, you use a bright flashlight to look for enemies. The flashlight gives you away.

Any stealth craft (aircraft, ship, submarine) will rely on passive sensors only.... Think of it as trying to find enemies through a narrow, short-range night-vision scope rather then with a huge spotlight. No one knows where you are, but everyone else gets just a little closer before you see them. The idea is that you still see them first, but not as soon as someone with a huge, high-powered spotlight (radar).



The Wazzu fleets have no idea where the landing troops (which were detected before the first drone was shot down, and are being watched now by a second) came from...just that the troops themselves are there. The Commodores figure there will be enemy aircraft and ships nearby.

Whether this actually happens to be the case even I OOCly don't yet know. Thats why I left time for you each to respond before I post arrival, and will allow you to use your stealth ships before I can even attempt action against them.


What I am doing:

-I gave a full listing of ships when I started the RP. I have no more then that.

-On deployment, before any of us had anything nearby anyone else, I split my ships into groups. I give hints at what these groups are composed of, but since none of us have posted being near enough to another's fleet to see/engage it, I am not giving full details (I will when such a thing happens).

-Likewise, I am assuming that Wazzu commanders know NOTHING about where enemy fleets are located. They are guessing LRR ships are somewhere to the North or East of the island because of where the enemy drone and enemy missile came from. They are assuming that someone (they don't know who) has ships and/or aircraft on the East side of the island because thats where troops were detected (and yes, AWACs can detect objects as small as cars or people on a beach).

-Please note that I have never posted anything more then my commander's guesses. They think they know who might be where, but know nothing of troop numbers or placement, ship numbers or placement (have not detected anyone's ships yet), or the presence of aircraft (other then that first LRR drone, mutually shot down).

Am I being paranoid enough yet?

EDIT: I play fair!
SilveryMinnow
09-03-2004, 08:58
OOC: This is why I didn't start RP until I had a general timeline of what everyone else was doing.
Events: From my edge of the Map (South) I moved Littoral Fleet to Landing Zone. ETA at 40 knots, 0030. Time of departure from beach 0230 (firm.)

Simultaneous movement of Air and Fleets.

(2)AWAC's 853 km/h ETA NW:0010 NE:0008

(5)Predator Drones (454 miles/731 km/h) (3 over island) 1 East, 1 West. Looping Patterns.

ETA landing at designated Zones. (77) 212 Bell Huey's 12 Soldiers each. 120 kt / 138 mph ETA 0010 hrs. Armament can include, singly or in combination, 7.62-mm (0.3-in) and 12.7-mm (0.5-in) machine guns. 7.62-mm (0.3-in) Minigun, 70-mm (2.75-in) rockets, AS.12 air-to-surface missiles, and TOW anti-tank missiles

Detachment of 4 Squadrons (5 helicopters each)AH-64 Apache Longbow class, sent to intercept landing Wazzu naval vessels.
Max Speed: 160 kt / 184 mph. Armament: one 30-mm M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds, plus four underwing hardpoints for up to 16 Hellfire anti-tank missiles, or 76 2.75-in (70-mm) rockets, or combinations of both weapons.

OOC: If your landing craft had stealth features (Active paint, Deflective Organic surfaces, they weren't posted.) If you don't think this action is fair, I will withdraw the Helicopters.
Wazzu
09-03-2004, 15:34
OOC: I know I write a lot, but read more carefully.

Here is what I have in more detail.

1 sensor (AWAC's style) drone (UCAV) flying over the island.

16 squadrons (4 PT, 1 corvette) of attack boats on the North end of the island (10 moving along West coast). These are not landing forces. They carry a small crew only, no "marines."

The real fleet the boat squadrons came from is 8 hours away (7 hours 20 minutes when the first boats and jets arrive at suspected enemy positions). Moving at 49 knots (as stated in an earlier post), this puts them at 392 knotical miles (358 knotical miles at combat time) away from the island. Thats well out of AWACs range.

The other real fleet is lagging far behind, 28 hours from landfall. At 29 knots, this is 812 knotical miles (802 when boats/aircraft arrive). Again, well out of range of your AWACs (that I didn't even know was there until just now). This is the fleet that has the landing ships. It's distance is why the helecopters will be running on fumes when they get there 4 hours from my last IC post (about 3 hours 20 minutes from the start of island combat).

So I imagine that it is only the attack boats and drone that you see (and they see your AWACs too). So I assume these attack boats are what your Apaches are going after.

ANSWER to stealth question.
-Wazzu ships do emply a color-chaning paint. It isn't as good as active camoflauge, but doesn't require energy/computers/heavy-investment to work.
-The Inca-Attack helecopters have some stealth features...but only enough to make them harder to target by infantry and tank-based missiles (they show up on AWACs).
-Exactly two (2) Wazzu ships have stealth features. Both are C4I (command, control, computers, communications, and intelligence) ships that lead the Wazzu "fleets". No other Wazzu ship or aircraft is stealthy.


Lastly, this is an OOC post for clairification only. I am waiting for LRR to post ICly again before I do (taking turns).
Lunatic Retard Robots
10-03-2004, 01:48
OCC: South Georgia (http://www.kiermeet.com/Kiermeet/Images/South%20Georgia.jpg)

There aren't really any jungles on South georgia. You'd be better off with mountains, glaicers, and some grass here and there.


The stealthy Lafayettes remain close to the shore, watching the goings-on with their long-range radar. The Slavas, further out, begin moving down the east coast towards the south of the island, with intent to harrass whoever is down that way.

The new radar on the Slavas, probably the only low-observable bit of equipment on the ship, next to the millennium guns, which would be low-observable if not part of the combined defensive mount with its huge radar, searches the skies for anything to shoot down.

"I've got two contacts on radar....drone sized, and over the island."
"Why not shoot 'em down, eh?"
"They're within SA-20 intercept range. They can probably see us now so we should get right to blowing them up."

Four simulated SA-20 missiles are launched from the Bangladesh, two for each drone that the radar saw. Once the Slavas get information on the marine's position, they'll be firing on them with missiles or guns. They should get their rain gear ready, if they want to avoid some serious paint damage to their clothing.
SilveryMinnow
11-03-2004, 21:16
OCC: South Georgia (http://www.kiermeet.com/Kiermeet/Images/South%20Georgia.jpg)

There aren't really any jungles on South georgia. You'd be better off with mountains, glaicers, and some grass here and there.


The stealthy Lafayettes remain close to the shore, watching the goings-on with their long-range radar. The Slavas, further out, begin moving down the east coast towards the south of the island, with intent to harrass whoever is down that way.

The new radar on the Slavas, probably the only low-observable bit of equipment on the ship, next to the millennium guns, which would be low-observable if not part of the combined defensive mount with its huge radar, searches the skies for anything to shoot down.

"I've got two contacts on radar....drone sized, and over the island."
"Why not shoot 'em down, eh?"
"They're within SA-20 intercept range. They can probably see us now so we should get right to blowing them up."

Four simulated SA-20 missiles are launched from the Bangladesh, two for each drone that the radar saw. Once the Slavas get information on the marine's position, they'll be firing on them with missiles or guns. They should get their rain gear ready, if they want to avoid some serious paint damage to their clothing.

LOST MY ENTIRE POST! WITH ONLY 56 PEOPLE AT SITE! FIX THIS FORUM!OOC: Kay I'm calm again. Thought this island was on the equator. Gonna make it easy to read those heat signatures, especially on the Capitol Vessels. Oh Well.

[0100 hrs]
Small Icons representing the Known locations of AirCraft and vessels both friendly and enemy float about the 3 dimensional holographic platform of a Lockheed Martin "Active Bridge," display aboard the Flagship Merrimac. A renovated Montana class BB. The Display is being observed by Task Force Commander Tatnall, his Intelligence Officer, Navigation Officer, and Tactical Officer.

Sitrep report on Departure of Sea Blades, and engagement of Wazzu aggressor forces by Apache squadrons, commanded Tatnall.

Commodore Zuckermann, Fleet Tactical officer reported. Sir, The deployment is going smoothly, and should be finished on schedule, no known enemy forces in Area. Apache Squadron is flying COE, using baffles and should be engaging Wazzu forces very soon.

A communications specialist interrupted. Sir, Wargame TOC has reported that two of our drones have been shot down on the eastern and center of the island.

Understood, Tatnall answered, blackout appropriate sections, tell operators to pilot craft back to ship for retrieval. Send message to Richmond to launch VTOL Drone to resume scouting mission. Contact 2nd Fleet, tell them to launch Grumman E-2, to see if there is a fleet in that area, Launch 3 Grumman E-9 to begin jamming frequencies at last known location of Drones, Grummans to be escorted by F-18A Hornets.

Aye-Aye Sir, Replied the Specialist.

Sir, the Hueys are reloading with more troops, 2 are down due to their oil freezing, they should be leaving Battle Island (Popular Mechanics), at 0115. ETA at 0200hrs.

Thank you, Mr. Jones. Tatnall acknowledged his Intelligence Officer. Mr. Tinthwistle ETA for our fleet positioning?

Sir, we are moving at full power, and navigating by Instrumentation. With the Battleships leading the Convoy there is little worry of collision with Icebergs. Not that we would hit any. We should be arriving at Royal Bay with our present speed of 33knots at 0500 hrs.

Heavy Cargo Transports have entered Fjord, Sir. They will Drop Ramps and begin offloading Mech Units, at 0200. It will be necessary for us to be in position to secure landing. Engineer vehicles and Equipment will be included. Reported Commander Jones.
Wazzu
14-03-2004, 02:42
OOC: Actually, I understood the island to be on the equator too. I think LRR is just using the island itself as a model, not as a location. For that reason, I'm going to continue to assume it is on the equator until he says otherwise.

***IC***

Petty Officer Larson's PT boat sped Southeast past Newark Bay. It's quick 83 knots contested it's heavy armament of torpedos, anti-ship missiles, and a fair-sized naval gun. But for all this power and speed, the little ship was lacking in several areas. It had to. It was hard enough to pack so much destruction in such a tiny frame. Such things as powerful radar, ASW gear, AA weaponry and similar were right out...and there really was no way to stealth or quiet a hydrofoil, the fantail would give it away.

But thats what the Corvettes were for. Larson looked out a side window to see his protector
foiling not too far away. There wasn't much worry about subs while on foils, but that beauty had his back, and those of his three squadmates, against aircraft and the big ships he hunted both.

There were two more squadrons between his and the shore, each consisting of 4 PT boats led by a Corvette. That mean 7 more were ocean-side of him. And together, they were sweeping the coast, looking hard for any ships to attack.

A nav-screen beeped at him. He was already passing Jacobson Blight, and Rocky Bay wasn't far ahead at these speeds.

High above, Lightning IIs screamed by....

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"Afirmative MC, I see 'em, are we to engage?" Lieutenant Bob Likos responded to the Master Control, via rerouting.

"Negative Skyfire, do not engage unless apparant target changes."

"Roger MC, watching closely."

From this high up, Likos couldn't really see the SilveryMinnow E-2, E-9s, or F-18As heading North, but his display showed it quite clearly. From the little bit of fuzz on his uplink screen, he could also tell they were jamming the area pretty hard...a lot of that radiation was bouncing off the landscape and back at his fighter. But why he asked himself are they not heading directly for those...ships? Subs? Sure you can't see the sources themselves, but they are blasting radar like no tomorrow. Can't they follow rad paths? Or are they just tring to give that impression to the enemy?

Likos looked again at his munitions display. He didn't like leaving those fighters in the air while those Tunny transports were inbound, but he could see Master Control's point. This was a free for all, and as long as these bad guys were going to fight the other bad guys, there was no reason to waste resources in stopping them.

Those 'rotors that kept appearing and dissappearing along the landscape were another matter. They were directly in the path of the low flying troops and escort, but from this hight there was little Likos or his squadmates could do about it. To get low enough for a proper lock would negate the Lightning's advantages while making it succeptable to counterattack.

"MC, do you see those birds in the trees?"

"Roger Skyfire, intermitant contacts seen, stay on mission."

That was it...nothing Likos could do but ride high, watch, and wait for anyone to challenge his position.

***OOC***

Summary: OK, so the Lightning's have arrived and taken up position at high altitude. Since no combat aircraft are really up that high yet (at least over the island), and there is no one at medium altitude threatening any Wazzu ships/aircraft, they are not attacking anyone yet. They are just securing the high ground.

There are the SilveryMinnow helecopters, but I imagine those are hovering and flying so low (on the edges of the island) that they only show up periodically on Wazzu radar. The high-flying jets can't engage them, and the Corvette/PT squadrons won't see them until they come out in the open enough to fire.

The attack boat squadrons themselves are making a sort of moving picketline. Wazzu knows troops landed, and it knows it can't see what landed them, so the picket line is just a way to scan a large area of ocean near the island visually. Of course, the ships might not be there anymore.

Minnow, feel free to have the initiative/first-attack on those attack boats (or high-altitude jets, if you want to challenge them).


EDIT: From this point on, I'll be tagging all my threads with timestamps, where 00:00 is when the Wazzu assault on the island was launched.

This thread (where high-altitude air superiority was gained without contest) represents 00:47-00:50.
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-03-2004, 04:08
The Slavas register the success of their missiles. Expecting aircraft to be en route, they move down the coast at full speed. Their hydrogen fuel cell propulsion systems signifigantly lessen their thermal signature, but still within detectable levels.

"Launch a drone."

A Piver II recon/missile guidance drone is shot out of a missile tube. It does not take long to arrive near the Silveryminnow position.

"The piver's got some targets."
"Launch the missiles!"

All 16x7 yakhont ASMs are launched towards the Piver's contacts. The Slavas move in closer, their only purpose to provoke an engagement.

Meanwhile, further out, the main LRR battlegroup gets ready for some serious naval combat. The group, completely re-united, prepares to destroy stuff.

The Kirov MOD MODs use their powerful radars to monitor the sea for any possible threats. Krivaks look for submarines, with the help of the Bremen frigates. The Sovremennys cruise around, looking menacing, and prepare to dish out some damage to whoever they find first.

On the decks of the 3 Invincible class carriers, a flight of 30 total Yak-141s and Harrier GR7s prepare for takeoff.

"Red wing, you are clear for takeoff."

The Yak-141s and harriers careen off the ski ramps and into the air. They gain altitude, and fly in towards the island, armed with bombs, AAMs, and small ASMs.

The formation, once at reasonably high speed, drops to very low altitude. The aircraft skim above the wavetops, headed inland.

They near the southwest coast of the island.

"Seaborne contacts, bearing southeast. Let's go get 'em."

The formation heads in towards the Wazzu PT boats.

Meanwhile, the LRR marines move inland. From cape north, they proceed south towards Stromness bay. Air cover is provided by a group of four Ka-27s from the Lafayettes.

The kamovs patrol ahead of the marines, armed with rocket pods, cannon pods, and AA-11 missiles.
SilveryMinnow
14-03-2004, 04:57
OOC:Yes the Apaches are flying Contour Of the Earth (COE) with the intention of using the ground debris to prevent being fired upon from missiles above. Not impossible but difficult. An attacking craft would be required to dogfight and the Apaches Air to Air Stingers would have an advantage over an Aircraft attacking from above.

Colonel Citrogen radioed each Squadron Leader of the Apache attack squadron and had them by use of concealment use A H-1F Telescopic Sight Units (T S U) to lock the standard missiles of their squadrons onto the approaching landing craft. Citrogen radioed fire control for orders.

(OOC: Tech note:The family of Hydra 70 (70mm) 2.75 inch rockets perform a variety of functions. The war reserve unitary and cargo warheads are used for anti-materiel, anti-personnel, and suppression missions. The Hydra 70 family of Folding-Fin Aerial Rockets (FFAR) also includes smoke screening, illumination, and training warheads.Hydra 70 warheads fall into three categories:
(1) Unitary warheads with impact-detonating fuzes or remote-set multi-option fuzes.
(2) Cargo warheads with airburst-range, with setable fuzes using the "wall-in-space" concept or fixed standoff fuzes.
(3) Training warheads.)

[code:1:d03a78d69d] Leader Easy Weasel squadron, have aquired targets request firing directive.

Permission to fire granted to all squadrons. Save Air to Air Stingers.

Will Comply Fire Control, Easy Weasel Clear.[/code:1:d03a78d69d]
Target Acquisition Designation Sight (TADS), on the Apache flight leaders computer automatically fired all of the squadrons missiles in simulation. (76), 2.75" folding fin aerial rockets

[code:1:d03a78d69d]Leader EasyWeasel to FireControl.

Fire Control.

Missiles launched waiting on next command.

Computer acquistion targets being transmitted to Wargame TOC. Return to base.

EasyWeasel Squadrons returning.[/code:1:d03a78d69d]
Wazzu
14-03-2004, 05:13
OOC:Yes the Apaches are flying Contour Of the Earth (COE) with the intention of using the ground debris to prevent being fired upon from missiles above. Not impossible but difficult. An attacking craft would be required to dogfight and the Apaches Air to Air Stingers would have an advantage over an Aircraft attacking from above.

Colonel Citrogen radioed each Squadron Leader of the Apache attack squadron and had them by use of concealment use A H-1F Telescopic Sight Units (T S U) to lock the standard missiles of their squadrons onto the approaching landing craft. Citrogen radioed fire control for orders.

(OOC: Tech note:The family of Hydra 70 (70mm) 2.75 inch rockets perform a variety of functions. The war reserve unitary and cargo warheads are used for anti-materiel, anti-personnel, and suppression missions. The Hydra 70 family of Folding-Fin Aerial Rockets (FFAR) also includes smoke screening, illumination, and training warheads.Hydra 70 warheads fall into three categories:
(1) Unitary warheads with impact-detonating fuzes or remote-set multi-option fuzes.
(2) Cargo warheads with airburst-range, with setable fuzes using the "wall-in-space" concept or fixed standoff fuzes.
(3) Training warheads.)

[code:1:608c82c7bc] Leader Easy Weasel squadron, have aquired targets request firing directive.

Permission to fire granted to all squadrons. Save Air to Air Stingers.

Will Comply Fire Control, Easy Weasel Clear.[/code:1:608c82c7bc]
Target Acquisition Designation Sight (TADS), on the Apache flight leaders computer automatically fired all of the squadrons missiles in simulation. (76), 2.75" folding fin aerial rockets

OOC: Err, umm, could you fix this?

As I understand it, LRR (and maybe you) is the only person with landing ships near the island...but your Apache's are only near my ships.

My ships are anything BUT landing craft...they have small crews and are made primarially for destroying ships (but can bombard land targets and clear mines...and the leader of each squad has AA weapons).

So the question is, who are you firing on? The Apaches on my Corvettes and PT-boats...or the fighter jets on LRR?

And how many Apaches are we talking about?
SilveryMinnow
14-03-2004, 05:21
OOC:Corvettes and PT Boats. I haven't got to LRR yet. Posted 4 squadrons of 5 Apaches each. (20) Tech note:Hydra 70 2.75 inch rocket. Maximum range at QE 43° ground launch, (M247: Shaped-charge anti-armour warhead 6lbs HE) Range: 10,425m
SilveryMinnow
14-03-2004, 05:58
The Slavas register the success of their missiles. Expecting aircraft to be en route, they move down the coast at full speed. Their hydrogen fuel cell propulsion systems signifigantly lessen their thermal signature, but still within detectable levels.

"Launch a drone."

A Piver II recon/missile guidance drone is shot out of a missile tube. It does not take long to arrive near the Silveryminnow position.
Have to take your word on what this one does. :) Would like a estimation of time of detection though plz. and are you shooting at my 1st fleet or my Landing ships, cuz the SeaBlades are just hanging around in the landing zone. Very low heat emissions. AND how did your drone deal with my jammers? AND Howcum the E2 didn't pick it up and the Hornets shoot it down?
Tech Note:Features

The Hawkeye provides all-weather airborne early warning and command and control functions for the carrier battle group. Additional missions include surface surveillance coordination, strike and interceptor control, search and rescue guidance and communications relay. An integral component of the carrier air wing, the E-2C uses computerized sensors to provide early warning, threat analyses and control of counteraction against air and surface targets. It is a high-wing aircraft with stacked antennae elements contained in a 24-foot rotating dome above the fuselage. The peculiar airflow over and around the radar dome led to a multiple-surface tail unit.

"The piver's got some targets."
"Launch the missiles!" All 16x7 yakhont ASMs are launched towards the Piver's contacts. The Slavas move in closer, their only purpose to provoke an engagement.

Basic Characteristics of the Yakhont Antiship Missile System
Firing range, km: mixed trajectory up to 300km/Speed:2-2.5m sec./Flight Altitude Final Phase: 5-15m/Warhead 200kg HE (500lbs.)/Guidance:Active-Passive Radar. Minimum Target Detection Range in Active mode: 50km
Meanwhile, further out, the main LRR battlegroup gets ready for some serious naval combat. The group, completely re-united, prepares to destroy stuff.

The Kirov MOD MODs use their powerful radars to monitor the sea for any possible threats. Krivaks look for submarines, with the help of the Bremen frigates. The Sovremennys cruise around, looking menacing, and prepare to dish out some damage to whoever they find first.

On the decks of the 3 Invincible class carriers, a flight of 30 total Yak-141s and Harrier GR7s prepare for takeoff.

"Red wing, you are clear for takeoff."

The Yak-141s and harriers careen off the ski ramps and into the air. They gain altitude, and fly in towards the island, armed with bombs, AAMs, and small ASMs.

The formation, once at reasonably high speed, drops to very low altitude. The aircraft skim above the wavetops, headed inland.

They near the southwest coast of the island.

"Seaborne contacts, bearing southeast. Let's go get 'em."

The formation heads in towards the Wazzu PT boats.

Meanwhile, the LRR marines move inland. From cape north, they proceed south towards Stromness bay. Air cover is provided by a group of four Ka-27s from the Lafayettes.

The kamovs patrol ahead of the marines, armed with rocket pods, cannon pods, and AA-11 missiles.

OOC:This parts yours Wazzu
Wazzu
14-03-2004, 06:01
Wazzu Island Assault Time: ~01:00


The Apaches hit at an oppertune moment. Rounding cape Oarnley, the skirmish line was penned between South Georgia Island's peninsula and Annenkov Island. But spread out as they were, only the closest two squadrons were in immediate danger.

The PT boats of the closest squadron were taken completely by suprise. Their task was anti-ship, and while they knew of the Apaches, they weren't looking for them. Lasers simulating missiles stuck them, and the four dissappeared in a flash of white light.

The Corvette however DID have the job of looking for them. It's alert driver throttled down as soon as the Apaches appeared, the missile-laser simulation missed...barely. But in dodging, the Corvette had slowed down below it's foil limit. Hullborne, it's best speed was a mere 50 knots, but it was going considerably slower. Such was "dead-in-the-water" for an attack boat, and the Corvette only managed to get off two simulated short range AA missiles before the Apache pilots compensated and shot it. The Corvette too soon dissappeared in a flash of white light.

The next squad out was luckier. At a further distance, they had more time to respond...precious seconds saved two of the four PT boats, and the watchfull Corvette. And while the PT boats made a run away towards the third squadron out, the Corvette turned in. The flares and chaff it let off did nothing to confuse the unguided rockets, but the ECM seemed to be convincing the Apaches that the Corvette was a good 30 meters further South...for thats where most of the Apache fire was going for the moment.

It used this time to maximum effect, launching simulated missiles while firing blanks (simulated birdshot and caltraps) at the offending attack helecopters.

The 8 other groups continued Southward, with the 2 now nearest the island firing missiles from their further positions of 3 and 4 (respectively) kilometers away from Apaches.

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"Shit!" Lieutenant Vorkosigan cursed as he suddenly found himself in a giant white room. A man in a flat black uniform stood in front of him and his crew, which his Corvette "dry docked" in the background.

"Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that you are now dead." The man in black said to grumbles from the decesed crew. "However, we have sleeping quarters available for those who wish it, and multiple theaters with free grub for anyone who wants to watch the show from here."

Cheers sprang up. Afterall, who wants to be on a ruddy Corvette in mock combat when you can watch it from here with all the theater perks...and rooms to spare!

******
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Back aboard WCME Farseer, Commodore Blake also cursed. Only he was cursing at the inbound LRR aircraft rather then the ambushing Silvery Minnow Helecopters. It wasn't so much that they were headed for the PT boats, the Corvettes could surely handle them. He was cursing because the attack boat squadrons were where they were for a reason. The timing was precise. They were clearing the ocean in front of the island before the first landing forces arrived.

But the LRR planes comming in behind the boat squads threatened to unwittingly spot the two approaching M-300 Tunnys and their escort jets early...too early.

"FleetComm, tell the CVE's Right and Left that I want every camera, radar, and other sensor sourse that can see the Northern half of the island taken out NOW!"

"YESSIR!" the young officer replied and got on it.

It wasn't 30 seconds later that every aircraft high-altitude drones of Wazzu could detect had a single missile going after them (with another targeting but not fired in case of a miss).

The source of these missiles were the 20 Lightning IIs flying high overhead.

The goal was simply to blind the enemy in the area for the next 20 minutes.
SilveryMinnow
14-03-2004, 06:27
OOC:Kay, my next posting will be for the 0200 hr. So when LRR gives me some specifics I'll post. Wazzu would you consider 4 Helicopters lost in Counterfire acceptable for an ambush?
Wazzu
14-03-2004, 06:37
OOC:Kay, my next posting will be for the 0200 hr. So when LRR gives me some specifics I'll post. Wazzu would you consider 4 Helicopters lost in Counterfire acceptable for an ambush?

OOC: If 4 is what you honestly think it would be, then go for it. This is FFRP, you decide your own losses.

As for the 0200 thing, please recall that I have at least one more post comming at about 01:21 (and probably a second to give effects of people responding to it).

After that, I don't have a major even scheduled until 04:00 (times based on times/distances/speeds from a post on page 2).
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-03-2004, 19:00
OCC: The piver is a pretty good drone. It would probably be able to see your big transports, which is what the Slavas are going after. But sure, detect them is fine by me. They're only there to provoke a battle.

IC:

With the missiles gone, the Slavas kick up their speed to nearly 40 knots as they head in towards the contacts. Their new 140mm guns and naval rocket launchers would be used if they got in close enough.

Meanwhile, the air wing prepares to cause trouble.

"Harriers, go for the PTs and Corvettes. We've got some air contacts up ahead."

The Yak-141s split from the harriers, and climb towards the Tunnys.

"We're in missile range."
"Missiles free."

The 15 Yaks fire their 15 total BVRAAM missiles from about 60km from the Wazzu fighters. They then switch to their AA-11s and prepare for closer-range air combat.

Meanwhile, the harriers continue towards the PTs and corvettes at low level. They each carry two RBS-15 ASMs on board, which are well within their seeker range.

"Ok, let's go get 'em!"
"I've got missile locks!"
"FIRE!"

The Harriers release their 30 total ASMs at the PTs from around 70km out from their position.

(More to come, but I've got to go somewhere now.)
Wazzu
14-03-2004, 19:28
OCC: The piver is a pretty good drone. It would probably be able to see your big transports, which is what the Slavas are going after. But sure, detect them is fine by me. They're only there to provoke a battle.

IC:

With the missiles gone, the Slavas kick up their speed to nearly 40 knots as they head in towards the contacts. Their new 140mm guns and naval rocket launchers would be used if they got in close enough.

Meanwhile, the air wing prepares to cause trouble.

"Harriers, go for the PTs and Corvettes. We've got some air contacts up ahead."

The Yak-141s split from the harriers, and climb towards the Tunnys.

"We're in missile range."
"Missiles free."

The 15 Yaks fire their 15 total BVRAAM missiles from about 60km from the Wazzu fighters. They then switch to their AA-11s and prepare for closer-range air combat.

Meanwhile, the harriers continue towards the PTs and corvettes at low level. They each carry two RBS-15 ASMs on board, which are well within their seeker range.

"Ok, let's go get 'em!"
"I've got missile locks!"
"FIRE!"

The Harriers release their 30 total ASMs at the PTs from around 70km out from their position.

(More to come, but I've got to go somewhere now.)

OOC: Until you recognize my missile attack on those very aircraft (and every other over/around the Northern half of the island), I'm not going to respond to this.
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-03-2004, 02:04
OCC: Wazzu, I have no landing ships around the island. The Lafayette class stealth frigates up off the north of the island are there to blow anything that comes that way to pieces. How did you get landing ships out of a gaggle of Rigid Raiders and CB-90s? Is it ok that this is night now?

IC:

8 Yak-141s are registered as downed, as well as 5 harriers. They fly back to the dropships and are taken into orbit.

Meanwhile, a new set of LRR ships appears in the area.

In from the island that the Baba O'Riley group captured, a formation of 15 Bora II corvettes and 35 Spaviero class missile boats.

They streak past the massive LRR battlegroup, and towards the coast of South Georgia. The massive Bora II class corvettes, with easily the armerment of a frigate, streak past the Spavieros at 75 knots, while the little hydrofoil boats make a paltry 50 knots.

The powerful radars on the Bora IIs quickly and easily pick up many targets. The Boras, coated in RAM and other stuff, would be hard to detect, but they are not stealth craft.

"The aircraft report that they have been attacked by missiles, and have multiple contacts on the water, missile boats, and a weak contact that might be a stealth ship."
"Roger that, command. We're inbound."
"Aye, command. We're off."

The Boras deploy Piver II drones in the direction of the contacts, and make a sharp turn to the northeast, and once far enough northeast, they turn back south, the opposite direction from where the Pivers came from. The Boras continue in towards their targets. They catch sight of land off Wilson Harbour, their targets well within ASM range. They stay close to the shore, their catamaran-surface effect hulls giving the ships a very low draft and allowing this kind of thing. While the Wazzu forces are occupied with the Apaches, they take the oppourtunity to sneak down the coast at a good 50 knots, in order to get in real close so they could use their 140mm cannon and NARL systems.

"We've got locks on aircraft, missile boats, a lot of stuff."
"Fire the missiles."

SA-20 SAMs are fired at any aircraft within 40 km of northern Newark Bay (including Lightning IIs, Tunnys, Apaches, etc. Anything that flies besides LRR aircraft have a virtual missile launched at it), and RBS-15s and Yakhonts (8 per ship, but I'm being nice so only four are launched per ship) are launched at the remaining PT and attack boats. Sort of overkill, but oh well.

"Attack!"

The Boras speed up to their maximum attack speed as soon as the missiles are let loose, and the Boras head in to attack the PTs.

Meanwhile, the Spavieros continue straight towards the contacts, and arrive in missile range very quickly. 70 total RBS-15s are launched from the two missile tubes on the Spavieros at the Wazzu missile boats, and the small craft head in for a close-range gun engagement.

The 7 slavas head towards the radar contacts, the Piver having been downed, but the jamming apparent on their radars. (They won't reach the landing site until Silveryminnow responds).

The LRR marines stop at Sunset Fjord, and wait for vehicles to be delivered.
Wazzu
15-03-2004, 04:23
OOC: OK, now there is a lot of confusion. And I think we are each part of the source of it.

We are all giving out so much information that we are skipping over what others give us.

Some examples:
1: SilveryMinnow thought my attack boats/corvettes were landing ships.
2: I thought your (LRR) harriers and such were comming from the North
3: You (LRR) thought I thought you had landing ships near the island.

Of course, those are only SOME examples. A lot more has gone on since that. Soooooo.....

I am going to put my ships and aircraft on a map at time = 01:00 (when the Apache's ambushed my corvettes and missile boats, but before either my or your (LRR) missile attack).

Unfortionately, I am pressed for time at the moment so I can not do so now. But I should have my portion finished tonight (within the next 5-6 hours).

I ask that the two of you (SilveryMinnow and LRR) do the same, that way we ALL know who is were.

And if you don't have a website to host it on, just message me and I'll send you my e-mail address (and I'll host the maps for all of us).
SilveryMinnow
15-03-2004, 05:16
[quote="Lunatic Retard Robots"]OCC: The piver is a pretty good drone. It would probably be able to see your big transports, which is what the Slavas are going after. But sure, detect them is fine by me. They're only there to provoke a battle.

OOC:I have no doubt it is an excellent drone. LOL, but you never mentioned any satellites around the planet. That would mean your operator would be piloting the drone by direct link, and I've set up a wall of jamming along the width of the island.
[Tech note]Description: The EA-6B Prowler provides an umbrella of protection for strike aircraft, ground troops and ships by jamming enemy radar, electronic data links and communications.)
The position of your fleet to the location the drone would be in would either disrupt the link, or be picked up by the drones, AWAC's, E-2's or any other number of Aircraft if drone does not have stealth type features. I am assuming you are either trying to look above or to the side of the wall. How did you know my Transports were there? Do I have infiltrators?

WAZZU:That's fine with me, but I don't have any different strategies to perform until 0200 hrs. When I begin to start unloading Mech Units at the Fjord in the Southern part of the Island. The Hueys will continue to transport 945 Light Infantry Air Calvary troops to the designated points 1 hour each flight. Total on island at 0130 (1890) Drones are good in flight for 40hrs. First Brigade of Marines offloaded (2500) will begin march across island. Apaches enroute to return Battle Island.
Wazzu
15-03-2004, 05:36
It seems I misplaced my drivers license(DOH!) and so ran into a windfall of time (w00t!).


Remember, all this occurs at 01:00.

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/WazzuPositions0100.jpg

1: 10 squadrons of hydrofoil attack boats. Each has one Corvette (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/Corvette.html) and four PT-Boats (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/PTBoat.html).

After the Apache ambush, 1 corvette and 6 PT/Attack Boats have been destroyed. The rest continue down the Southeast (8 full and 1 half squadron) at 83 knots. As such, the 50 knot LRR attack group has absolutely no chance of catching up...and as it wasn't in weapons range in the first place, it is only falling further and further behind.



2: As of 01:00, the main portion of the Quick Fleet (Wazzu's faster ships led by Commodore Blake) is 7 hours away (~343 nautical miles away moving at 49 knots). Thats pretty far off the map. They are far enough away to have not entered enemy radar range yet.



3: As of 01:00, the Slow/Assault Fleet (Wazzu's slower ships and a few quicker escorts led by Commodore Samson) is 27 hours away (~783 kilometers away and moving at 29 knots). That is VERY far off the map. They are so far away they have not entered enemy radar range.



4: 3 groups of 10 (30 total) Lightning II (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/LightningII.html) Supersonic Fighter-Bombers patrol the island around these areas. They main air superiority from an altitude of 30,000-60,000 feet (but can engage aircraft above or below this). As of 01:00, they have been patrolling for about 13 minutes (no one has/had contested their position).

Note, 2 sensor carrying Nighthawk (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/Nighthawk.html) drones are also over the island, and tend to stick near the Lightning IIs.



5: As of 01:00, the first airborn troops are 21 minutes away from their objective on the island. They are moving at about 600 knots and so are about 210 nautical miles away. They have yet to be detected because they haven't entered the range of any enemy radar. This is why Wazzu Lightning II's launched a missile strike at all targets over the North part of the island. They wanted to get rid of all radar/sensor sources on the Northwest part of the island.

Note, the troops are traveling in 2, M-300 Tunny transport ships (each huge VTOL carries 300 troops in 25 APCs), and are escorted by 40 Adventurer II (http://members.cox.net/davage/NationStates/Wazzu/Military/OldStuff/AdventurerII.html) VTOL fighter-bombers.



6: As of 01:00, 60 Zancudo transport helecopters and 40 Inca attack helecopters are 3 hours from their objective on the island. They are about 609 nautical miles away and moving towards the island at a bit over 200 knots. These also are so far away that they have not entered enemy radar range


I hope all that has cleared up exactly what I have and where it is. Please add your own positions to this map, or a new one so we can clear up any confusion and get on with the RP.
SilveryMinnow
15-03-2004, 05:55
I would add my positions if I knew how.
Wazzu
15-03-2004, 06:11
I would add my positions if I knew how.

OOC: You don't have a image program?

If you have a very detailed description, I'll do my best to add you in.
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-03-2004, 01:08
The Spavieros give up the chase and look for something to attack. They circle around the south tip of the island, about 50km out from land. They round cape dissapointment at speed. However, they start to hit icebergs.

One of the spavieros strikes a mostly submerged iceberg, and tears off its foils. The crew lands on cape Vahsel, and a pair of missile boats motor over to the beached ship. The captain of the lead boat takes a look at the condition of the beached Spaviero and starts laughing. An overzealous crewmembver jumps into the frigid water with a line. He swims over to the shore, much to the amusement of the crew.

Out to sea, the crews of the three spavieros at the coast watch as another small boat goes airborne after running over an iceberg. It crashes into the water, and starts to sink. The crew gets into a small wooden boat that looks like a whaling launch, and motors over to another boat. They are passed a tow line, which they fasten to the bow.

The first beached spaviero is pulled off the beach, and proceeds on its hull.

Meanwhile, the Boras watch the Wazzu boats speed away. Dissappointed at being left behind, they also speed up to their maximum speed and give chase. Their thermal signature is heavily dampened by the water cooling system, and their radar signature is, as discussed, dampened by the RAM coating. (Consider them between 70-50km behind the Wazzu boats, well within missile range if they just let fly in their general direction. Some of the missiles would pick up missile boats, others would probably fly off into oblivion.)

Back at Sunset Fjord, the marines catch sight of four ships plowing through the high waves. Three lafayette class frigates, followed by a Tapir landing ship enter the Fjord. The marines already there walk down to the shore to greet the newcomers. The tapirbeaches itself on a small, rocky beach. Four John Henry wheeled APCs drive off, two armed with anti-tank systems, two armed with anti-aircraft systems. Next, a pair of BRDM-2s drive off. After that comes a real treat. No less than 12 PTS tracked amphibious vehicles drive off the tapir. After that, the 319 marines carried on the ship walk off and meet those already on the island.
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-03-2004, 01:08
The Spavieros give up the chase and look for something to attack. They circle around the south tip of the island, about 50km out from land. They round cape dissapointment at speed. However, they start to hit icebergs.

One of the spavieros strikes a mostly submerged iceberg, and tears off its foils. The crew lands on cape Vahsel, and a pair of missile boats motor over to the beached ship. The captain of the lead boat takes a look at the condition of the beached Spaviero and starts laughing. An overzealous crewmembver jumps into the frigid water with a line. He swims over to the shore, much to the amusement of the crew.

Out to sea, the crews of the three spavieros at the coast watch as another small boat goes airborne after running over an iceberg. It crashes into the water, and starts to sink. The crew gets into a small wooden boat that looks like a whaling launch, and motors over to another boat. They are passed a tow line, which they fasten to the bow.

The first beached spaviero is pulled off the beach, and proceeds on its hull.

Meanwhile, the Boras watch the Wazzu boats speed away. Dissappointed at being left behind, they also speed up to their maximum speed and give chase. Their thermal signature is heavily dampened by the water cooling system, and their radar signature is, as discussed, dampened by the RAM coating. (Consider them between 70-50km behind the Wazzu boats, well within missile range if they just let fly in their general direction. Some of the missiles would pick up missile boats, others would probably fly off into oblivion.)

Back at Sunset Fjord, the marines catch sight of four ships plowing through the high waves. Three lafayette class frigates, followed by a Tapir landing ship enter the Fjord. The marines already there walk down to the shore to greet the newcomers. The tapirbeaches itself on a small, rocky beach. Four John Henry wheeled APCs drive off, two armed with anti-tank systems, two armed with anti-aircraft systems. Next, a pair of BRDM-2s drive off. After that comes a real treat. No less than 12 PTS tracked amphibious vehicles drive off the tapir. After that, the 319 marines carried on the ship walk off and meet those already on the island.
SilveryMinnow
17-03-2004, 19:54
OOC:I'm gonna have to withdraw. Sry :( I recently got a new computer game from HPS Simulations called North German Plain '85, and its currently got me absorbed. Again I apologize but I didn't really expect to recieve it for 4-6 weeks, instead of just 2. Love to stay but I'm busy wiping out the Red Menace. :mrgreen:
SilveryMinnow
17-03-2004, 19:55
I would add my positions if I knew how.

OOC: You don't have a image program?

If you have a very detailed description, I'll do my best to add you in.

I don't have a website to post .gif images from, and I'm not paying $36 a month to have one.