NationStates Jolt Archive

Right. I've had it.

No more Mr. Nice guy. I'm not going to be on NS for much longer, and while I'm here, I aim to enjoy myself. Thus, the following people are now on permanent ignore. They are not allowed to respond to any posts I make, now or in future, and any tms they send will be ignored, and their names added to my TM ignore list.

Fyreheart and Vortex Corporation.

That's it. Also, as far as I am concerned, 'The Message' thread never occured, and my neutrality is, at least until I'm in a good mood, firmly on Menelmacar's side because I've decided that the majority of the members of Arda and the Reich are SOBs, OOC and IC.

No offense to Melkor Unchained, Lord Sauron Reborn, and Baggera/Crimmond.

Now, a few words on under what rules I'm going to be operating under.

1 Noone in their right mind will invade Roania for land

It's a big, large, monster infested wasteland. The people loathe most foriegners, and they make lousy slaves for anyone who isn't Roanian. The parts which aren't monster infested are either farmland, and useless for anything else, big sprawling cities, and the rest is mountains, jungle, and open uranium mines.

It's smack in between Russian Forces and Menelmacar, so the strategic benefits are pretty much of little use, as they're both neighbors who enjoy quiet.

It's surrounded almost completely by cliffs, making naval landings very difficult.

If you still want Roanian land Icly, tm me with information, and I'll tell you the best way to go about dying.

2. Any time I issue a statement, IC or OOC, ask me OOCly what my intentions are.

English is not, as some of you apparently believed, my first language. It's what I use for almost everything on the internet, but that's only because I'm not going to cut and paste Hebrew letters, especially because I don't know if anyone else here understands it. No, I will not write Hebrew words with English characters, don't ask.

However, while my spelling is generally good, I occasionally can't see the different ways my words can be interpreted. I try, but...

You don't need to ask, but I'd prefer it if you did. It would get us off on the right foot, especially if you're unsure what I meant.

3. I have a very, very small sense of humor

Practical jokes, deliberately misinterpreting when my intentions are obvious, etc, will result in complaints to the mods. WN, if you're reading this, no more accusing me OOCly of homosexuality, I don't care what else you do, but that's out.

4 Feel free to invade Roania in the name of democracy, free enterprise, and all that other jazz.

Provided you clear with me first, and check for details on terrain, etc., I don't have a problem.


5. Anyone who was on IRC last night...

Yes, I was seriously going to leave. However, as some of you may have noticed, as I was doing so I ran into an OOC/IC friend of mine, and he convinced me to stay. The mod post was his idea.

Tarlachia, once I'm in a good mood, I'm gunning for you.

That's all.

Peace on Earth, and all that.

Oh, one more thing. In a few days, I'm going to have Roania declare itself open to all species, excluding those whom my relationships with have been appaling. (Catpeople; Vampires and other undead; Demons of the Netherpits; Liberals, and so on)

I'll have IC reasons for doing so, which I need to figure out... my OOC reasoning is that I can see something coming...

...Thats lame, take the hit sissy!

...Thats lame, take the hit sissy!

Auman, I've already blanket ignored you.

Leave. Now.

Actually, I've blanket ignored you twice.

OOC: Auman, Roania is leaving NS because of a bunch of morons. Don't make yourself one of them.

Indeed.

This is a prime example of why I needed to take a break from NationStates. Petty whining from people who can't take mistakes they made like a man.

Ignore me all you want Roania, but the fact remains, you have just tarnished your roleplaying here forever. Not onlybecause of the situation, but because of your childish response.

My claim on you is null and void, only because you're not worth the wankfest.

Is Roania still gonna be Catholic...or was that anotehr nation?

I'm not going to be on NS for much longer, and while I'm here, I aim to enjoy myself.
You're leaving? If you don't mind my asking, how come?

...Thats lame, take the hit sissy!

Auman, I've already blanket ignored you.

Leave. Now.

Actually, I've blanket ignored you twice.

Im sorry, this is just bad RP. He's been annexed and he's ignoring it...its ridiculous.

Fyreheart, shut up. ICly abusing an OOC slipup is ridiculous.

Roania, don't let dorks force you to leave NS. That happened to me and I lost my killer Nov 23 2002 creation date. ;_;



-Kits(ylvania)
Ye Olde Forum Urban Legend

Fyreheart, shut up. ICly abusing an OOC slipup is ridiculous.

Roania, don't let dorks force you to leave NS. That happened to me and I lost my killer Nov 23 2002 creation date. ;_;



-Kits(ylvania)
Ye Olde Forum Urban Legend

OOC slip up? It was an IC post for petes sake!

OOC slip up? It was an IC post for petes sake!

Somehow I doubt that Roania's player writes legalese documents/issues policy statements/closes legal loopholes for a living. Doing things up to the standard of actual national governments is not a requirement of roleplaying on Nationstates.

I'm not going to be on NS for much longer, and while I'm here, I aim to enjoy myself.
You're leaving? If you don't mind my asking, how come?

1. This fucking situation.

2. I'm going back to Isreal in a few weeks, for a few weeks.

3. Auman, shut up, before I find out if I can get this nation deleted for pestering me the way Anti-Funitism was for flaming everyone else.

4. Once I'm in Isreal, I'm not sure if I'll be have internet access.

5. Did I say this fucking situation?

Fyreheart, shut up. ICly abusing an OOC slipup is ridiculous.

Roania, don't let dorks force you to leave NS. That happened to me and I lost my killer Nov 23 2002 creation date. ;_;



-Kits(ylvania)
Ye Olde Forum Urban Legend

OOC slip up? It was an IC post for petes sake!

*sighs at this post* BEING ANNEXED IS NO REASON TO IGNORE!!!!!!!!!!!! he's just ducking a hit.

Doing things up to the standard of actual national governments is not a requirement of roleplaying on Nationstates.

I'm sorry. I was under the impression that normal people routinely take advantadge of others mistakes. Thank you for pointing out that only governments do it.

:roll:

I'm not going to be on NS for much longer, and while I'm here, I aim to enjoy myself.
You're leaving? If you don't mind my asking, how come?

1. This f--- situation.

2. I'm going back to Isreal in a few weeks, for a few weeks.

3. Auman, shut up, before I find out if I can get this nation deleted for pestering me the way Anti-Funitism was for flaming everyone else.

4. Once I'm in Isreal, I'm not sure if I'll be have internet access.

5. Did I say this f--- situation?
Ah, I see... well, good luck. I hope you return eventually...

I'm sorry. I was under the impression that normal people routinely take advantadge of others mistakes. Thank you for pointing out that only governments do it.

:roll:

Freeform roleplaying requires the players to work together rather than against each other. Obviously if you can't agree on anything, you can see where any actual attempt at combat is going to go. FFRP is NOT adversarial.

I'm sorry. I was under the impression that normal people routinely take advantadge of others mistakes. Thank you for pointing out that only governments do it.

:roll:

Freeform roleplaying requires the players to work together rather than against each other. Obviously if you can't agree on anything, you can see where any actual attempt at combat is going to go. FFRP is NOT adversarial.

Roania did not use "bad english." Roania used bad wording. He fricked up , and is now dodging the consequences b y ignoring me.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

Roania did not use "bad english." Roania used bad wording. He fricked up , and is now dodging the consequences b y ignoring me.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

1) Where did I say anything about 'bad english?'

2) You don't seem to understand. If he didn't intend for there to be a war out of this thing, and he didn't feel like one (or couldn't, as the OOC case may be) then he DOESN'T HAVE TO FIGHT ONE and declining it isn't dodging anything. This is why you talk things over privately with someone before you decide to go and declare war on them or something.

Roania, you're welcome, I'm glad to have helped you out.

As for the rest of you LEAVE ROANIA ALONE! He made a simple mistake for freaking sake....

GRRR...

Enough!

Fyreheart, any other thread of mine you respond in, I'm going to ask a mod to delete the posts. I've had it. I've looked at that thread twice now, and I don't know how you managed to interpret it the way you have. I've had your view-point explained to me while looking at the thread in question, I still can't see it.

Now, go away.

Ook, tg for you.

1) Others did. I was doing that for their benefit.

2) Admit it Kitz. He's being a wanker and you know it. I did not "deliberately mistake his intentions," I read the post and took action with what I saw to be a tactical error.

Roleplays here, are freeform, like you said. They can go many different ways, and unexpected things happen. If you can't take the heat, don't roleplay. It's that simple.

Roania, if I can put my two cents in, don't leave because of a bunch of morons. I know you don't like what happened, but it's an isolated incident, it's in the past and in the long run it won't mean much. You've already done all you can do- clarified yourself, ignored the posts/posters and notified the moderators- so just move on and pretend it didn't happen. Don't let some morons get the best of you- you are too good for that.

Roania did not use "bad english." Roania used bad wording. He fricked up , and is now dodging the consequences b y ignoring me.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

1) Where did I say anything about 'bad english?'

2) You don't seem to understand. If he didn't intend for there to be a war out of this thing, and he didn't feel like one (or couldn't, as the OOC case may be) then he DOESN'T HAVE TO FIGHT ONE and declining it isn't dodging anything. This is why you talk things over privately with someone before you decide to go and declare war on them or something.

He could decline with out ignoring...if he were to 'politely' say that he was not in the mood, or did not intend a war Im sure Fyreheart would be fine with it. Instead he went on a huge rant on why he was ignoring someone for trying to initiate an Rp.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

That in itself should be grounds for expulsion. Do it again, and I'm calling in a mod. Don't believe me? Try me.

Well, sad to see you go.

Roania, if I can put my two cents in, don't leave because of a bunch of morons. I know you don't like what happened, but it's an isolated incident, it's in the past and in the long run it won't mean much. You've already done all you can do- clarified yourself, ignored the posts/posters and notified the moderators- so just move on and pretend it didn't happen. Don't let some morons get the best of you- you are too good for that.

Agreed.

2) Admit it Kitz. He's being a wanker and you know it. I did not "deliberately mistake his intentions," I read the post and took action with what I saw to be a tactical error.

Having suffered idiots myself in great number (numbers far too large to mention), I know quite well what wankery consists of and know full well that what Roania has done falls far short of the mark. You can call it a tactical error all you like, and you can cite the viscissitudes of FFRP, but the fact is that the prevailing etiqutte on NS is to TG someone before you take an action that violates their sovereignty in such a way (war, annexation, etc).

Was a blanket ignore excessive? Perhaps. I don't know the history between you two, nor do I know what has happened here other than what I've heard on the forum and snippets gleaned from IRC rumor-mongering. What I think is that entirely too large a deal is being made out of this matter, which is almost entirely irrelevant and could have been solved with a simple ret-con on your part once it was determined that Roania had no interest in RPing a war with you.

In conclusion, I'm tired. I feel that I've laid out my position and argued for it fairly well, so I think I can leave it to stand on its own overnight before it is buried in the morass of threads known as the NS Forum.


-Kits(ylvania)
The All-Purpose Super Commie Forum Urban Legend

Roania did not use "bad english." Roania used bad wording. He fricked up , and is now dodging the consequences b y ignoring me.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

Fyre, you probably have the best intentions in the world- but I think you did go out of line in annexing Roania.

As far as I'm concerned, the results of a good role-play should be agreed upon by BOTH parties. As I am quite positive Roania did NOT want his country annexed I do not believe it is right for you to do it.

Roania made a mistake...so what. We all do. Don't get all worked up about it because it happened. This is really a minor incident that is getting WILDLY blown out of proportion.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

That in itself should be grounds for expulsion. Do it again, and I'm calling in a mod. Don't believe me? Try me.

Maybe it was a bit much. Apologies. But I don't like being called a moron.

What I think is that entirely too large a deal is being made out of this matter, which is almost entirely irrelevant and could have been solved with a simple ret-con on your part once it was determined that Roania had no interest in RPing a war with you.

Agreed.

Well, I have to say that this is quite possibly the most disgusting situation I've ever seen in roleplaying. Ever.

Fyre and Auman, who the hell do you think you are, flaming and insulting Roania, telling him how and with whom he can roleplay? Shameful behavior. Roania isn'[t my best friend, but I'll back him to the hilt against those who willfully misinterpret, and then flame over it.

Roania, it's not worth it. Move on. If you gotta go, you gotta go. But don't split over this.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

That in itself should be grounds for expulsion. Do it again, and I'm calling in a mod. Don't believe me? Try me.

Maybe it was a bit much. Apologies. But I don't like being called a moron.

Did I call you a moron?... I really don't think I came out and said you were a moron. :? Well, fine. Since you apologised, I suppose I should too.

Sorry I called you a moron.

Nice roleplaying. Remind me to add having a brain to the requirements to roleplay with me.

That in itself should be grounds for expulsion. Do it again, and I'm calling in a mod. Don't believe me? Try me.

Maybe it was a bit much. Apologies. But I don't like being called a moron.

I want to point out that it was NOT Roania who said the word moron. It was Tsarine (sp).

It's times like this that make me wish I was still a mod so I could tell you both to knock it off and just flat-out ignore each other already instead of exacerbating the problem, and by God, that goes for the lot of ya.

Man, wouldn't that be nice? :lol:

All right, it's over.

Maybe a blanket ignore is a bit... what's the word... excessive. And maybe I should go and revise basic english sentence structure, and pay more attention in the portion of my legal studies classes that involve contracts.

And find someone who can explain to me slowly what it was I had typed wrong, as I'm probably never going to figure that out on my own.

One more thing. Slag, when did you quit? :shock:

I am going to say that, ICly, as far as I am concerned, Roania is still a soverign state and has NOT gotten involved in any way with Fyreheart and Co. ICly, those posts do not exist to me.

OOCness

Okay folks...chill pill distribution time. Calm the f*ck down.

Roania...feelfree to do what you need to do and don't let BS keep you down. EDIT: This is done now, it seems.

Fyreheart and all...just let it go, you have more of a chance of recovering whatever it is you're interested in by being calm, OOCly polite, and being willing to explain what you're doing (and to accept when things get a bit messed up) than to go about like this...it's just awful to see you involved in this.

Auman...well, I don't really know you that well but look to what I said to Fyre.

Ook/Kits, welcome back...TM.

Slag, thanks.

All right, it's over.

Maybe a blanket ignore is a bit... what's the word... excessive. And maybe I should go and revise basic english sentence structure, and pay more attention in the portion of my legal studies classes that involve contracts.

And find someone who can explain to me slowly what it was I had typed wrong, as I'm probably never going to figure that out on my own.

One more thing. Slag, when did you quit? :shock:

I am willing to offer my help if you need it.

All right, it's over.

Maybe a blanket ignore is a bit... what's the word... excessive. And maybe I should go and revise basic english sentence structure, and pay more attention in the portion of my legal studies classes that involve contracts.

And find someone who can explain to me slowly what it was I had typed wrong, as I'm probably never going to figure that out on my own.

One more thing. Slag, when did you quit? :shock:

LOL :lol: (on the legal studies comment)

Roania, I'll talk with you about that elsewhere, I understand the others' viewpoints on the matter.

Slaglands: sorry to see you no longer a mod, oh well, times change....

It's times like this that make me wish I was still a mod so I could tell you both to knock it off and just flat-out ignore each other already instead of exacerbating the problem, and by God, that goes for the lot of ya.

Man, wouldn't that be nice? :lol:

Yeah, what he said.

Jeeze... are you people genetically programed to respond to every thread in this place? Bite your tongue and go read something else.

OOC:

Hmm, I'm sorry if I'm strectching the debate here, but since I am one of the two catalysts of the whole thing, I at least have a right to do my say. Or at least, I hope I do. I don't care if this post is deleted on request by Roania, all I want is that he at least reads it.

First of all: I started this, not Fyreheart. I found the loophole in the text, and I screamed the "OMG ROANIA IS ALLOWING J00 TO TAKE HIS NATION!!111" over Irc. Fyreheart merely rose to the opportunity, but is not the instigator.

Secondly: indeed this was meant as a joke. Especially when I started calling Fyreheart and me the Riech alliance (since Reich was misspelled by you), I thought you'd catch on to the fact that we were being sarcastic.

Now in retrospect: I did expect you to have a sense of humor. But I can understand that you find this not funny. From that point of view, the actions by Fyreheart and me were both childish and immature (if there's a difference). So for that: my apologies.

I am sorry if I have offended, flamed or annoyed you in any way. I did not expect that you would take something intended as a joke so seriously.

However, there is something to say about your actions: instead of starting to scream and yell like an infant, you could have read Fyrehearts post and simply reply with a "whoops, my mistake, that's not supposed to be there. I'll edit." Since such would have occured 2 minutes after you made the original post, nobody would have blamed you. But instead you started screaming and yelling, and well....now we've ended up here.

But again: I apologize for any insulting behavior that I might have shown in my actions. However next time (god forbid), please act mature and solve things in rational manner, instead of making a drama show out of it. Letting these things escalate makes you feel bad, makes other players annoyed (read the thread and smell the adrenaline), and it also makes me feel bad.

So: Sorry for showing a (perhaps lame) sense of humor in places where it was not appropriate.

Now as for the ignoring part:

There are people in this thread complaining about the fact that an OOC slip up is exploited IC-ly. Your argument is that such a thing is not allowed, or at least should not be.

So ignoring me for OOC reasons is different how?

I don't see the loophole, though. Right? I believe I mentioned it on both IRC, and in this thread. I don't see it. I can go on looking for the next twenty-five years, and I will probably never see the loophole. I honestly don't care all that much about the opinions of others in this, (sorry if that sounds a bit harsh), but the major problem is that you and Fyreheart, you made me feel incredibly stupid. Because I really, in all honesty, don't see what I did that could possibly be interpreted the way you say it can.

This whole incident made me lose confidence in my English skills, and my intelligence, because I keep thinking that if I was just that little bit smarter I'd know what's goings on. Call me overly sensitive if you want, if you honestly think that was funny there's something wrong with one of us.

Apology accepted, and blanket ignore retracted. My ignore on the thread is still in place.

If it makes you feel better: I have read a lot of other RP threads in which you were involved, and I never had any problems interpreting or understanding your writings.

In the event of an attack by you against anyone, we shall not support either side, and will acknowledge you as rightful rulers of any lands you claim, by right of conquest or otherwise.
I can see their alleged "loophole," though its validity is debatable. An argument could be made that you agreed to acknowledge them as ruler of any land they claimed, under any circumstances. It could also be argued that you agreed to acknowledge them as ruler of any land they have a right to, be it by conquest or for some other reason. I do not think a country can be annexed by a minor linguistic ambiguity in a non-binding message, though, so their response (even as a joke) was clearly unwarranted and absurd. Just ignore that; the rest of the thread (its intended purpose) should be fine, I would think.
Do not lose confidence in yourself! I would never have guessed that English isn't your first language; you use it far better than many people who speak nothing else.

Vortex, thank you. This may sound cliched, but that did make me feel a bit better. Hmph. I suppose I owe everyone an apology for blowing it up so out of proportion.

DK, thank you. I'm still not sure on what it was that made it seem like I was advocating annexation of myself, but it's a bit clearer.

I'm going to re-write the thread, though.

Can we get a lock?