NationStates Jolt Archive


My armed forces

01-03-2004, 03:18
NOTE: this is OOC and if any of this is used for an IC conflict it will be labeled as OOC information and ignored.

Alright, It's been a while since I have been active on this site, but I decided to get back to it, and I'm going to post my entire forces to get some feedback, be honest, tell me if you think it's excessive, not enough, etc. and have reasons for your point of view, thank you.

.:Aircraft:.
100 A-10A Thunder Bolt II
100 B-1B Lancer
50 B-2A Spirit
100 Sea Harrier FA2
200 SR-71A
100 FHD Tomcat
200 F-15C/D Eagle
200 F-16 Fighting Falcon Block 50D
220 F/A-18-E/F Super Hornet
100 AG-1W Super Cobra
200 AH-64D Apache Longbow
100 CH-47D Chinook
100 Merlin HM MK1
200 RAH 66A Commanche

.:Navy:.
40 SSN-688 Los Angeles
45 SSN-637 Sturgeon
30 SSN-640 Benjamin Franklin
20 CVN-68 Nimitz
25 CV-63 Kitty Hawk
15 CV-9 Essex
20 CG-47 Ticonderoga
30 DD-963 Spruance
20 DDG-51 Arleigh Burke
10 LCC-19 Blue Ridge
20 As-39 Ermory Land
15 LHA-1 Tarawa
15 LSD-49 Harpers Ferry
10 MCS-12 Inchon
200 LCM
50 T-AE-26 Kilauea
60 T-AFS 8 Sirius
50 AOE-6 Supply

.:Personel:.
27,000,000 Rifle Infantry
5,000,000 Flamethrowers
10,000,000 Rocket Infantry
100,000 Heavy Artillery
75,000 Mediun Artillery
50,000 Light Artillery
200,000 Sniper
20,000 Regular Techinicians
7,000 Specialist Techinicians
10,000 Fixed Wing Operator
7,000 Rotary Wing Operator
25,000 Ship Enlistee
18,000 Ship Officer
2,000 Ship Techinician
1,200 Aircraft Techinian

.:Ground Weaponry:.
27,000,000 M9 Beretta 92F
27,000,000 M240G Machine Gun
200,000 M21 Sniper Rifle
50,000 M1A1 Abrams (tank)
75,000 M2A3 Bradley (tank)
100,000 M6 Bradley LB (tank)
20,000 2S6M Tunguska Anti-Aircraft Artillery
Wolfish
01-03-2004, 05:04
With respect for a similarly sized nation - check your numbers.
01-03-2004, 16:56
i have better weapons tha u!!!!!
Myrth
01-03-2004, 16:59
That's insane.
Emperor Matthuis
01-03-2004, 19:52
i have better weapons tha u!!!!!


Well actually...
03-03-2004, 17:10
With respect for a similarly sized nation - check your numbers.

What makes you say that, I have a military percent of 2.4, what's the deal with that, now the only thing I can think of is the airplanes might be ecssecive, but I know the numbers look big but so does a population of 2 billion. (almost, holding my breath)

And, alot of my forces are defence incase some terrorist decides he wants to attack me, so it's not like I'm engaging millions of people, across seas.
Wolfish
03-03-2004, 18:04
Yes - but for every fighting man and woman - you need at minimum 3 logisitcal men and women.

For every 5 tanks you need a tanker truck and a supply truck - and a team of mechanics.

I'm by no means an experts - but I've read all I can from The Evil Overlord, who is.

Really its up to you, and with a population your size there is no one here that could beat you in a defensive war anyway - so its hardly a matter worth arguing - just my opinion.
Vrak
04-03-2004, 07:36
OOC:

I second Wolfish's comments. Please, please, read up on logistics. I have quite a few in my military as well, but most of them are support. And without support, soldiers and their equipment are next to useless.
04-03-2004, 15:34
Yes - but for every fighting man and woman - you need at minimum 3 logisitcal men and women.

For every 5 tanks you need a tanker truck and a supply truck - and a team of mechanics.

I'm by no means an experts - but I've read all I can from The Evil Overlord, who is.

Really its up to you, and with a population your size there is no one here that could beat you in a defensive war anyway - so its hardly a matter worth arguing - just my opinion.

Ya, you do have a point there, but seems how I just started playing NS again I had completely started over with my forces. So I still have some building to do.
Beth Gellert
04-03-2004, 15:45
It's worth considering China- 1.8million men in the army, I believe, with the population of a ..Mayish nation? And that's the largest military on earth. Of course they haven't quite so much need to maintain a massive military, but when they did, it was about three million strong.. not ten or twenty.
04-03-2004, 15:54
I presonaly think that is a way too big standerd army.
now if you were to draft people then yes but other-wise no.
world war 1 did'ent even need that meny people.
Wolfish
04-03-2004, 17:51
One percent of my population (actually less, because last time I calculated I was 1.7 billion) is in the military.

1/4 of those are frontline troops.

Another 1/4 of 1 per cent of my population makes up my reserve force - weekend or parttime mililtary.

Any one that can beat this force composition is not someone I would lightly face.

The lower force numbers (well below what my economy could support if needed) allows for better training, better equipment and a stronger overall deployable force.

Pop 1,700,000,000.00

All military 17,000,000.00

under arms 4,550,000.00

army 2,000,000.00

navy 1,062,500.00

AF 425,000.00

marines 1,062,500.00

Ready Reserve 4,550,000.00
Soviet Haaregrad
04-03-2004, 18:24
I'm pretty sure you could have alot more aircraft. Even the USAF operates more then 200 F-16s.

I'd go with something closer to(all numbers are approximates):

2 000 F-16s with a 6:1 ratio between single seaters and conversion trainers.
1 000 F-15s with a 6:1 ratio between single seaters and conversion trainers.
50 SR-71s, they're hyper expensive to operate and can be supplemented with other equipment, like satelite photos or info from other recon planes.
200-500 A-10s with a 6:1 ratio between single seaters and conversion trainers. There is a trainer model of the A-10.
500-750 F/A-18E/F with a 6:1 ratio between single seaters and conversion trainers. Or I'd go with the much more useful F-15E and have every airframe serve for conversion training and combat.

Lastly I'd split your naval air arm from your air force, it's much easier to organize that way. Also you need ASW aircraft, AWACS, ElInt/SigInt, transport, basic and advanced training, anti-shipping, tankers(if you wish to deploy outside of your nation and all the other less glamourous roles filled.